tv Outside Source BBC News February 13, 2017 9:00pm-9:30pm GMT
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an allied international news. president trump has met the canadian prime minister in washington, they have stressed their historical bonds, their common causes, but they don't agree on anything ——— everything. we are going to get the bad ones, the really bad ones, we're getting them out. we continue to pursue our policies of openness towards immigration, refugees without compromising security. the shift to its southern flank, we met the mexicans who are already working to reinforced its border. and the bbc has gone undercover in one of britain's biggest prisons. we will have a reality check on the north american free—trade deal and what donald trump has been saying about it. well, let me show you donald trump
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welcoming justin trudeau at the white house a little bit elliott. satin chairs next to each other posing for some pictures and exchanging pleasa ntries. posing for some pictures and exchanging pleasantries. clearly, while those two were getting on in that situation they disagree on a lot, immigration, security probably been top of the list. both issues came up at the joint press conference, here are the answers. came up at the joint press conference, here are the answerslj said we would get out the criminals, the drug lords, general kelly he was sitting right here said he ——— he is doing a fantasticjob. i've said from the beginning we would get the bad ones, the really bad ones that is exactly what we are doing. i
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think that in the end everyone will be very happy and i will tell you now, a lot of people very happy right now. canada has always understood that keeping canadian safe is one of the fundamental responsibilities of any government and that is certainly something we are focused on. at the same time, we continue to pursue our policy of openness towards immigration, refugees without compromising security. part of the reason that we have been successful in doing that over the past year close welcoming close to 40,000 syrian refugees is because we have been coordinating with our allies around the world, to demonstrate the security comes very seriously to others and that is something that we can continue to deal with. let's bring in the bbc,
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what did you make that? they were trying to emphasise here what they have in common they are each of the's largest export market so trade and the economy is high on everyone's mind when it comes to this but you could tell from that conversation that they have decidedly different ideas about the importance of being able to bring in refugees, immigration, that answer that donald trump had was in reference to the us canadian border, donald trump started talking about getting the bad guys out. about deportations. and his immigration policy with an eye towards mexico. he knows what americans are interested in and what the questions are about his immigration policy and he was going to defend them even with justin trudeau he was going to defend them even withjustin trudeau standing right next to him. you mentioned trade, let's play a quick clip on that subject. he says he wants out of the north american
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free trade agreement, here are both leaders on that issue. president trump andl leaders on that issue. president trump and i got elected on commitments to support the middle class, to work hard the people who need a real shot at success. we know that by working together, by ensuring the continued effective integration of our two economies, we are going to be creating greater opportunities the middle—class canadians and americans now and well into the future. i agree with that 100%, we have a very outstanding trade relationship with canada. we will be tweaking it, doing certain things that will benefit both of our countries, it is a much less severe situation then is what taking place in the southern border. the many yea rs, in the southern border. the many years, the transaction was not fair to the united states. well, mr trump uses the term tweak, which is not the verb that springs
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to mind when i think the comments he is made about nafta. no, he's called ita is made about nafta. no, he's called it a horrible deal, perhaps the worst us is as a maid. can see him again going from discussing us canadian policies to focusing on mexico. that is where his real concerns are. he is mexico. that is where his real concerns are. he is talking about all thejobs he is trying concerns are. he is talking about all the jobs he is trying to take back to the us nec ‘s mexico as the beneficiary of nafta, but understandably can make deemed a nervous ““ understandably can make deemed a nervous ——— understandably canadians are nervous. they depend on the us over their economy. any trade agreements are going to have canadians want to do and are rightly concerned. one thing i want to ask you, here is a tweet... i spotted a lot of people complaining about
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this, these reasonable complaints? well, the past meetings with foreign leaders they've only had a handful of questions. this wasn't a full press competence. but, guess the people that he called on, there were two american journalists and two hannay d in general is. the two americans wherefrom conservative ——— both of them asked about immigration and security. none of them asked about michael blain and the controversy surrounding his contacts with russian officials prior to donald trump's inauguration and possibly talking about sanctions related discussions so, the fact that they picked those two peoples, they seem to think that this was a way for them to avoid those hard questions and they did. they didn't call one of the major media outlets that would have asked about the controversy. we will talk about that in depth, but as you are here just
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updated as he's done this job, right he is. he is underfire but still in hisjob. we will talk he is. he is underfire but still in his job. we will talk about the natural... now, donald trump signed a number of executive orders and to oui’ a number of executive orders and to our to a number of executive orders and to ourto do a number of executive orders and to our to do with the american mexico border. one is palpable and the other concerns officials that carry out deportations. we have highlighted al paso cityjust on the us side of the border, we have a reporter there. 2:30am. luis is about to cross into the knighted states. for many on the border it is a way of life.
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we are protecting his identity because the american company he works for doesn't allow him to speak. this is the kind of journey that many people in ciudad juarez make everyday to go and work in all paso. he is mexican and he's building the wall, the wall that is already there. it's anotherjob, you know. it's like they send some body to drive a bus, he is doing hisjob, you know, and myjob is just to make the wall this time. his family and friends do not see this as a problem either. theyjoke with me and they tell me just to leave it a little open for them to cross. this is where luis is working on a two kilometre stretch of the fence. he believes the us needs people like him. standing so close to it, it's obviously a very
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imposing structure. they used to be a small fence here but it is now being replaced by this five metre high metal post. the closer you get to the fence the more you wonder how the wall president trump wants to build will serve its purposes and how it will affect the lives and businesses of people in border towns. this man is from ciudad juarez and owns a small restaurant in el paso. since trump was arrested the mexican currency, the pesto, has tumbled, and his business has suffered. there's been a fence here for almost a decade and while ciudad
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juarez became one of the most violent places in the world el paso is amongst the safest cities in the us. they willjust cross right here. the barrier runs through this woman's backyard. we have less people crossing. we have less cargo, as we say, crossing over. now we feel safer. despite her mexican heritage she supports resident trump's plans. i believe that he is trying to protect the us. and i believe in that. all along the border there are reminders like this that for some the impulse to cross this fence or a future war may be or it for some the impulse to cross or a for some the impulse to cross or a future ne the impulse to cross or a future will 1e impulse to cross or a future will maylpulse to cross or a future will may be lse to cross or a future will may be too :o cross strong to stop. we will shift from al paso to
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pakistan. at least 13 people have been killed and more than 80 injured by a bomb in lahore. the target was a protest outside the punjab assembly building. these are pictures of the aftermath. the protest was organised by pakistan's pharmaceuticals manufacturers — though that doesn't seem connected to it being targeted. a group linked to the pakistani taliban has claimed responsibility. secunder kermani told us more about them. they are a fraction of the pakistani taliban who launched a large attack in the same city in march last year. you may remember it happened at easter, around 70 people were killed. actually, in pakistan over the last year and a half or two
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yea rs, the last year and a half or two years, big major terrorist attacks like these have been decreasing. in fa ct, like these have been decreasing. in fact, this city had been hoping to host in pakistan the domestic cricket league's final. which is taking place in the united arab emirates and people had been looking forward to that because of the changes in the security situation. now, that is looking unlikely. the chief of army staff and the prime minister have both condemned the attack the prime minister vowing that pakistan will continue to fight against what he describes as the cancer of terrorism in the country. inafew in a few minutes will play you the undercover investigation into one of britain's's jails. it was bound in a state of chaos. ——— found. the co—op bank has announced it's
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putting itself up for sale. the high street bank — which has more than 4 million customers — almost collapsed in 2013 after a series of financial problems. it was bailed out by american hedge funds but has struggled to strengthen its finances because of low interest rates. our business editor simon jack reports on its problems he says the may already be a potential buyer. one name springs out the may which is the tsb which itself was carved out of lloyds after a merger. like all small band it is struggling, they both have a slightly ethical, slightly local, slightly ethical, slightly local, slightly simple flavour to them. their brand is a good bit. having said that tsb have other priorities they've just separated from lloyds, which is a massive it. we live in the bbc newsroom, our
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lead story is that donald trump has met the prime minister of canada, they discuss terrorism, trade and refugees. he is said to oppose any reconciliation with israel. as bbc arabic. and the operations are being made in new zealand to remove the carcasses of wales who died during a mass stranding on the beach. volu nteers mass stranding on the beach. volunteers did manage to refloat 200 oi’ volunteers did manage to refloat 200 or the wales but it is not clear
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what caused the strand. a bbc investigation has exposed widespread drug abuse and security failings at one of britain's biggest prisons. what has been happening inside is worthy of note. nearly 1400 male inmates are kept their other two months an undercover bbc reporter worked as a custody officer and documented widespread drug use, hold on security fences and more fundamentally a lack of control. this is a clip where he is threatened by an inmate. the giveaway for me... the prison was privatised and since
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then many positions have been caught including 96 prison officers. as you see some of the remaining staff feel they are an safe. drugs are also a significant issue. these are pictures showing prisoners who'd taken drugs. cannabis called spice is what many were using. other inmates were witnessed walking around drunk. large quantities of illegal drugs were also found in prison cells of the issues can be linked
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to a spike in prison numbers. since the 1990's the number of prisoners in the uk has risen by around 90%. liz truss is thejustice secretary — here she is talking after the bbc‘s report came out. reductions by cab or cueto sweeping sentencing courts are not a magic bullet but against his attempt at a quick fix. we need to do hard work and a lot of it. we need to do the ha rd and a lot of it. we need to do the hard work of improving community sentences of dealing with problems like drink and drugs and making our prisons more effective at reforming the people inside them. this will not be fixed in weeks or months, but if we're resolute we will see our society become safer and our prison population reduced. we're concentrating on the relationship between canada and the us because ofjustin trudeau's visit to washington.
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their trading relationships is one of the biggest in the world's — it's worth around $660bn. that value of the relationship has grown significantly since 1994. that may or may not be related to the us signing the north america free trade agreement that year. but donald trump is not keen on this deal. here's one of many examples your husband signed nafta which is one of the worst thing that ever happened's that is your opinion. you go to new england, ohio, pennsylvania, and you will see devastation where manufacturers down 30, 40, sometimes 50%. nafta is the worst trade deal may be ever sign anywhere and certainly in this country. let's do a outside source reality check on what the president is saying about nafta. he says there are places where manufacturing is down 50% or so, in his first week as
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president he took to twitter to say... he talked about it being a one—sided deal that has cost many jobs... let's take these claims one ata jobs... let's take these claims one at a time. first of all there is some places in the us where manufacturing is down 50%, mr trump does not go into details, be proof one way 01’ does not go into details, be proof one way or the other. in terms of trade deficit even go to an official us website to get that it says the us website to get that it says the us goods trade deficit with mexico was $58 billion in 2015. it also says if you put goods and services together the trade deficit is below $50 billion. it is not clear if he was including services if he isn't then his figure is reasonably close to the mark. let's bring in michelle live from new york. how do we measure whether nafta has been one
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of the worst things for us manufacturing? there've been reports conducted in the us by various official bodies who have x concluded that it hasn't been terrible for the american economy but has been god poseidon pockets of the economy and i think that is where donald trump's mess it has resonated, those industries where perhaps something didn't come back to replace it after nafta. what is worth pointing out is that if you look at the long path of manufacturing employment in america, the decline injobs in that manufacturing employment in america, the decline in jobs in that sector predated nafta and pal of more sharply when china joint the wto. it is unclear how much nafta should be held responsible for this. nonetheless donald trump says it is about a trade deal that he wants to renegotiate. although with canada he says it worked fine on that and only needed a tweak. perhaps that may be
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to do with the trade deficit is. with carragher it is much less significant than with mexico ——— with carragher it was much less significant. but, mexico was a developing economy. he is correct to say that there are some areas where manufacturing has gone down by as much as 50%? manufacturing has gone down by as much as 5096? he certainly is correct in pointing to the fact that manufacturing has gone down sharply in some areas. but, what is the root cause of back? nafta or trade moving overseas, there has been a lot of debate about that, others would point to mechanisation being the real problem. actually if you look automation in the progress made in factories today, you don't see huge number of people assembling parts individually by hand, a lot of it is operating robotic arms, laser cutting machines, all of this has
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replaced a huge number of people and the question is how much of that is the question is how much of that is the real problem when you look at manufacturing and how much has today would trade? we appreciate your help is there, thank you very much indeed we'll be doing attempt one macro reality check every single day on the programme and if there were stories you would like is to look at by all means letters no. we still don't know if donald trump's travel bans on seven muslim majority companies will return. ——— muslim majority countries. but, what about the airlines that fly people in and out of the us. this is an interesting clip of willie walsh — ceo of international airlines group which owns british airways and iberia. he's with theo leggett. it affects everybody in europe and not just the united it affects everybody in europe and notjust the united kingdom, so it is in everybody in your‘s interest.
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there are 900 million consumers who have benefited from the regime that has been in place. you say you are confident that those negotiations will go as you want, but if that doesn't happen what is the worst—case scenario? doesn't happen what is the worst-case scenario? i don't think there is one, because to be honest we deal with aviation regulation on a global basis and i think people are fixated on the uk — your lip, in the context of brexit, but there are many countries in the world that we currently try to which have restrictive regimes in place and we have had to put structures in place deal with that. ——— fixated on uk europe. we think we will be able to adapt structures and operating procedures to continue to operate. it webby as efficient or have the same consumer benefit, but i don't think there is a doomsday scenario.
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---it think there is a doomsday scenario. ——— it won't be as efficient. on certainty isn't just ——— it won't be as efficient. on certainty isn'tjust confined to the uk or even europe, there is a new administration in the white house, what donald trump has done has surprised many people. the ban on travellers from seven different countries, how much of the concern is that the u? it causes concern to individuals. from industry point of view we are able to adapt will stop ——— how much of the concern is that all you. we have seen these things in the past and it takes is time to adjust, we're just and then we move on. when you look aviation between the us and europe or the us and the uk it is something that has worked very well. the us industry, the uk industry, the european industry are all aligned. we want to see the current open skies regime to continue. we don't want to see new barriers put in place. but whether barriers put in place. but whether barriers are put in place, we deal
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with them. i think back to the disruption caused by the liquids ban, it was severe in the short term but we adapted. it is inconvenient for some people today, but we are capable of adjusting to any restriction on new measure put in place. now, the next 30 minutes of outside source, we'll be live in washington, dc, if you have any questions on american politics send them my way and i will put them to e. we will also be hearing from pakistan where a court has been issuing a ban on valentine's day activities. we will also update you on the dan in california that has come under some structural damage. ——— the dam in california. we are at the height of summer in
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australia, and that summer he has had some all wanted consequences. wildfires that have been banning partly as a result of the high temperatures. we have broken numerous records. sunday brought temperatures as high as 48 degrees in some inland areas. the town to the west of brisbane here got a 40 degrees for the first time on record. wildfires have been part of the consequence of that heat. they have been described as cat to stuff it and some of the worst i've ever been seen. ——— they had been described as catastrophic. and they have caused their own weather systems, one caused its own thunderstorm, because when the fire burns to the registration ——— through the registration. we have one at that rises and cools and cool
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aircon one at that rises and cools and cool air con hold as much water green warm earth. the fire has caused its own clouds. what happen in australia isa own clouds. what happen in australia is a cold front moved up over the top. the fire actually created its own thunderstorm. the good news is that things are cooling off over the next few days. nothing like as cool asa next few days. nothing like as cool as a has—been across the north—east usa. these pictures from portland, maine so some very snowy scenes. a winter storm has brought over but of snow in some places and icy conditions as well. we say goodbye to that storm system and ten eyes down to the south. an area of very heavy down pours and fishes thunderstorm spread through new mexico. if you know people travelling in this part of the world could be disruptive weather, flash floods or even tornadoes. meanwhile
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the west coast where has been so wet well there is more rain on the way. now to europe, it has been wet across the mediterranean you can see of cloud. wet and windy weather was poor to liberia and france. iberia will improve a little bit but south of france tomorrow will see the main setting in. that wet weather piling in in the peer means so some flooding issues, perhaps. ——— wet weather piling into the pyrenees. things are turning milder, here at home. it will continue over the next two days. some rain at times. more detail in the next half an hour. hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source.
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president trump has had his first meeting with canadian prime ministerjustin trudeau. the two leaders discussed terrorism, and cooperation on trade and growth. north korea has declared sunday's ballistic missile test a success. president trump described north korea as a "big, big problem". we'll look at how his administration dealt with this first test. mr trump's security adviser is under pressure. he's accused of discussing sanctions with russia before the end of the obama administration. he's initially denied this, now he's not so sure. katty kay will be live in a moment. and in sport manny pacquiao's turned to a twitter poll to pick his next opponent. has the whiff of a pr stunt. we'll look at how this is going to work.
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