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hello. it's wednesday, 15th february. i'mjoanna i'm joanna gosling. south korea says it is certain that the half—brother of north korea's leader kim jong—un has been killed in malaysia. kim jong—nam died after an apparent poison attack in the airport in the capital, kuala lumpur, on monday. no motive has been confirmed and the attackers have not been identified. malaysian police say he complained of being attacked by women who covered his face with a cloth full of burning liquid. he was then taken to the clinic at the airport and then brought to hospital, but he died en route. nineteen million people in the uk aren't earning enough money to have an adequate quality of life, according to new research. poverty campaigners thejoseph rowntree foundation say that a couple with children now need to earn a minimum of £37,800 to get by properly and if you are a single parent you need £35,707. we will be speaking to some of those feeling the pinch. repeated blows to the head during a footballer‘s professional career may be linked to long—term
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brain damage, according to new research, the first of its kind. so is it time for a change in rules — especially to protect young players? hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11am. also coming up, data exclusively given to this programme shows that there has been a massivejump in the number of abortion pills being bought online in mainland uk, even though using the pills without medical approval is illegal and which you may not know, could be punished with a life sentence. we will be finding out what is driving the increase, and, of course, we want to hear your experiences. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning. use the hashtag victorialive and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today, south korea has confirmed
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that the man killed in an apparent attack at an airport in malaysia on monday was the estranged half—brother of the north korean leader kim jong—un and they believe north korean agents poisoned him. police in malaysia are studying cctv footage of the attack on kim jong—nam. images from the footage have focused on two women seen alongside him, who were later spotted leaving the scene in a taxi. this report from sarah corker. was kim jong—nam poisoned by assassins as he prepared to board a flight in the malaysian capital on monday? confusion and mystery surround the death of the half—brother of the north korean dictator. now south korean officials say they believe he was murdered. translation: the government is certainly judging translation: the government is certainlyjudging that the murdered person is kim jong—nam. certainlyjudging that the murdered person is kimjong—nam. since this case is still being investigated we should wait for details until the malaysian government makes an announcement. just before he died,
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kimjong—nam is reported to have told medical workers he was attacked with a chemical spray. police are studying security camera footage from the airport. he had been long estranged from his half—brother the north korean leader, kim jong—un, falling out of favour with the secretive regime and living in exile after he was caught sneaking into japan on a fake passport. south korea's acting president said if north korea was responsible it would show the brutality and inhumane nature of the regime. translation: the government is carefully watching north korea's movements, acknowledging the fact this situation is a very serious one. a postmortem is due to be carried in kuala lumpur later. a woman has been detained at kuala
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lumpur airport. 0ur correspondent karishma vaswani has the latest on this story from the malaysian capital kuala lumpur. i'm standing outside the morgue where the body of the man we believe to be kimjong—nam was brought by malaysian police overnight. since then, we've seen several police cars and a police van carrying away what we believe to be that body. here's what we do know. on monday, a north korean national was taking off for a flight to macau from kl airport when malaysian police say he complained of being attacked by women who covered his face with a cloth full of burning liquid. he was then taken to the clinic at the airport and then brought to putrajaya hospital. but he died en route. malaysian police initially said that the man who died on monday was kim jong—nam, the half—brother of north korean leader kim jong—un. there's a lot of confusion and speculation as to what's actually going on in this case, but malaysian police have said that until a complete investigation
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and an autopsy of what happened is confirmed, they won't be saying much else. reeta chakrabarti is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. the us media are reporting that members of president trump's campaign team had repeated contacts with senior russian intelligence officials in the year before the us presidential election. it follows the resignation of the national security adviser, general mike flynn, over allegations surrounding a phone call he had with a senior russian diplomat before president trump took power. general flynn quit after it was revealed he had misled the white house over the nature of the call. it's alleged he discussed the future of us sanctions on russia. senior republicans have joined calls for an investigation into the affair. the number of abortion pills being bought online in britain is on the rise, according to data shown to the victoria derbyshire programme. government figures show 375 doses, sent to addresses in england, wales and scotland, were seized in 2016,
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compared with just five in 2013. taking the pills while pregnant without medical approval is illegal in the uk. we'll have more on that story at 9.45am. for the first time, a scientific study has found a possible link between head injuries and brain damage in former footballers. researchers studied the brains of six former players who had died from dementia and then discovered that some of them had a form of the disease linked to repeated blows to the head. 0ur health reporter smitha mundasad has more. jeff astle, former england footballer who died in 2002. he had degenerative brain disease, linked to repeatedly heading heavy leather footballs. his family have been campaigning for more research to find out whether lots of this can lead to long—lasting brain damage. in this latest study, scientists looked at the brains of six lifelong footballers who had developed dementia.
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when we examined their brains at autopsy, we saw the sorts of changes that are seen in ex—boxers, so the changes that are particularly associated with repeated head injury, which are known as cte, chronic traumatic encephalopathy. so we have shown that head injury has occurred earlier in life, has occurred earlier in their life, which presumably has some impact on them developing dementia. but the science is far from certain. it's a small study, that can't prove a link between football and dementia and the scientists are clear their work did not analyse the risks to children. for the average adult footballer, who plays recreationally, experts at alzheimer's research uk say the risks are likely to be low and outweighed by the benefits of exercise. but the football association says one question that needs to be answered is whether degenerative brain diseases are more
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common in ex—footballers and the fa says that's research it's determined to support. several people are still unaccounted for after the explosion in oxford yesterday which destroyed a three—storey block of flats. three people were hurt in the blast, in the south west of the city. two people were treated for minor injuries and one was taken to hospital. the cause of the explosion is still unknown. a ukip press officer has offered her resignation after saying she was responsible for misleading personal information about the hillsborough disaster on the website of party leader paul nuttall. mr nuttall admitted yesterday, in an appearance on liverpool's radio city talk, that claims that he's lost a close, personal friend in the tragedy were untrue. he said he hadn't written or seen the information on his website before it was posted. people who have grown up in care are far more likely to die in early adulthood than those who haven't, according to figures revealed
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by a bbc investigation. although care leavers make up just i% of all 19 to 2i—year—olds, they accounted for 7% of deaths amongst that age group last year. it's thought poor mental health and difficulties accessing support could be to blame. the government says it is investing £10 million in support for those leaving care. a lack of sex and relationships education in some of england's secondary schools is creating a "ticking sexual health time bomb", according to councils. the local government association says pupils are not being prepared for adulthood and is calling for sex education to be compulsory in all state secondary schools. currently, all schools in england under local authority control have to teach the subject as part of the national curriculum, but a loophole means academies and free schools which are controlled by central government are not obliged to cover the subject. harrison ford has been involved in a near—miss while flying his plane in california. the 74—year—old actor mistakenly landed on a taxiway where an american airlines plane
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was waiting to take—off with more than 100 passengers onboard. peter bowes reports from los angeles. it happened as harrison ford was coming in to land at thejohn wayne airport in orange county. the federal aviation administration confirmed that the pilot of a single—engine plane had been cleared to land and that he correctly read back the clearance. but instead of landing on the designated runway, he touched down on a taxiway nearby. just before landing, ford is reported to have asked the air traffic controllers "was that airliner meant to be underneath me?" the boeing 737 had 110 passengers on board, and took off safely a few minutes later. an faa investigation into the incident is under way. it could result in a suspension of ford's pilot's licence. the golden couple of british cycling have announced a new addition to their family. laura and jason kenny are expecting their first child
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as laura revealed in an instagram post yesterday. the couple are said to be thrilled and delighted and have thanked the public for the kind messages and support they've already received. a group of kayakers in the firth of forth got more than he bargained for yesterday when a passing seal decided to hitch a ride. the cheeky mammal had followed the paddling group for a mile before deciding to hop aboard. the kayakers said it was an "amazing experience". that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 9.30am. thank you very much. still to come — how much do you earn? and do you think its enough to get by on? according to poverty campaigners thejoseph rowntree foundation at least a third of us are living with an inadequate income. we will be talking to some of those feeling the pinch and, of course, we want to hear your experiences. do get in touch with us throughout the morning. use the hashtag victorialive and if you text, you will be charged
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at the standard network rate. let's get some sport with will. and barcelona suffering a rare thrashing last night. it is not often that barcelona get beaten. there is beaten and there is being absolutely thrashed and they lost 4-0 absolutely thrashed and they lost 4—0 in the last 16 of the champions league at paris st germain and they're out of the champions league now, aren't they? this is a team that won the european cup five times. it is not often you see them be demolished like this. have a look at the goals. this is the first last night. this player got two on his 29th birthday. the first one was a free—kick. then a second and then a third into the top corner. it was a birthday bonanza for psg. we talk about lionel messi, it was like someone tied lionel messi,
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m ista kes like someone tied lionel messi, mistakes all over the pitch. yes, the significance of this is this a real turning point for europe's elite as we say barcelona winning it five times before? we see them in the semifinals and the quarterfinals and the final, but they've got a huge task on their hands. no team has overturned a four goal, first leg, deficit in the champions league. so all to do and their manager saying a disastrous night and we were clearly inferior. pressure will on arsenal tonight because they are back in champions league action? yes arsenal in champions league action and arsene wenger not happy to be reminded really that they've got a poor record in the knock—out stages. the last six seasons they have failed to get past the last 16. they will be sick of the sight of bayern munich. bayern munich are seven points clear
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at the top of the bundesliga. despite their poor record arsene wenger saying there is no reason they can't put it right. wenger saying there is no reason they can't put it rightlj wenger saying there is no reason they can't put it right. i feel we have the experience. we play against a bayern side every year the every year the same target is to win the champions league and when you look at their record they are always basically in the last four. so it's a massive challenge, but i think we are capable of dealing with it. all the build—up and commentary for you on 5 live sport. a former sunderland striker in the premier league. he has been told he has unethical hair. i don't know what you make of that. i think it is a three. i'm not quite sure. he's one of a0 players to have been found guilty of having unethical hair by the united arab emirates football association. they told a goalkeeper
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four years ago to cut his hair before a game. we're trying it get clarification as to why it is unethical. he was told he has to sort his hair out! we look forward to finding out what you found out about that. thank you, will. 19 million people aren't earning enough to have an adequate quality of life, a rise of four million over the last eight years. according to the report by thejoseph rowntree foundation, if you fall below the following levels you are not earning enough for that adequate quality of life. it's £17,300 if you're single and renting a flat outside london. if you're a couple with two children and living in social housing, you need a minimum of £37,800 between you. 0r staggeringly, if you're a single parent you need £35,507 annually. let us talk now to a number of people who fall below those lines. solomon smith is a 31—year—old youth worker from london
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who earns £9,000 a year. alison darby lives in london, where you need at least £29,000 as a single person. she works two jobs and over 60 hours a week. thank you forjoining us. you are single with two children and i said you earned £9,000 per year, that co m pa res you earned £9,000 per year, that compares with the foundation saying that to be getting by, you should be earning 35,00a —— around £35,500. tell us what your lifestyle is why? it is hard. it is proper hand to mouth. sometimes i pay my rent, my electric or my water, or sometimes, doi electric or my water, or sometimes, do ijust get into the red? now i'm used to seeing a lot of red letters. tell us more about the specifics on how you get by. 0bviously, they are fundamental things you are talking about not being able to afford. fundamental things you are talking
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about not being able to affordm is just like, you know, about not being able to affordm isjust like, you know, like today isjust like, you know, like today is payday and i know it is not going to be enough for my rent, the kids' school meals. it is just like, sometimes it isjust school meals. it is just like, sometimes it is just heartbreaking. i also run a charity as well for the homeless. sometimes i have two it where i work to make sure i can super have enough food for the day. you know, it isjust super have enough food for the day. you know, it is just kind super have enough food for the day. you know, it isjust kind of living in 2017 and kind of experiencing what i'm experiencing is absolutely crazy. allison, what is your situation? you are single with no children but you are working extremely hard and you are still not earning the level you need. extremely hard and you are still not earning the levelyou need. i'm a postgraduate, i've got a degree, i we nt postgraduate, i've got a degree, i went to university thinking it would help me get into a position where i could get a decentjob. it was quite ha rd could get a decentjob. it was quite hard after i'd finished university because i went back quite late and i could not really find work anywhere
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and ended up waitressing for a while. eventually got a reasonable job at the pay is not great. to subsidise that, i have to work on weekends at the local pub. just to get enough money for travel and rent. what are the choices you have to make? to be honest, my rent is usually loads. my bills are included in my rent otherwise i could not guarantee the money would be there. i have to ask my parents for money. my mum is retired and my dad is working part—time. it is so hard, consta ntly working part—time. it is so hard, constantly having to worry about whether or not i can pay my rent, if ican get whether or not i can pay my rent, if i can get my travel money to work each week, and i don't even remember the last time i went away. i have no social life. my social life is the work at the pub. has it always been like this for you? has it got harder? it hasjust got harder. like myself, i went to university, thinking that once i've finished, i would have a good job. it made it
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ten times worse. then, you know, you have more bills, what is upon your head. the day i finished university, instead of celebrating, i got a letter saying i was in debt of £a0,000. i was thinking, how am letter saying i was in debt of £a0,000. iwas thinking, how am i going to pay that? and you are building your debt because you are starting some month in the red. what about your debt levels? now, seeing all the letters, easily up to £70,000. why do you think it has got worse, both of you? i think it is the lack ofjobs. they say going to university would kind of encourage you to kind of get work but it is not like that. i think we have got to educate people that commie you know, there are thousands and thousands of people going to university, leaving university and not getting work. and £50,000 debt which goes against you if you could
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try to get a mortgage. what policy decisions in the budget next month might makea decisions in the budget next month might make a difference? there should be more means testing and things. for me, i fall out of the category that would get any kind of tax credits or anything. i pay a lot of tax, because i work two jobs so 20% on one of them and whatever on the other. but i don't see any of it back. i pay for my prescriptions like everyone else, dentistry, like everyone else, travel, and it is a lot of money in london to travel to get to work. these kind of things. they just get to work. these kind of things. theyjust all add up. if there was a way to help someone who earns under £20,000 to lives in the city, that would be helpful to a lot of people. but we don't get that. do you have any ideas on policy decisions? the best policy is to make the policy visible for everyone, because there's a lot of different funds that can help people. if you don't
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know about it, you will never know. that is one problem i have always had a problem with. i have had to do a lot of research to get a lot of help. and again, that is one of the main reasons why i set up my own charity, because there's a lot of support that people are entitled to and they just support that people are entitled to and theyjust don't know. i think it is making those policies known to eve ryo ne is making those policies known to everyone and who is entitled to it can get it. i want to read some comments from people watching, kelly has tweeted to say, "i'm definitely struggling financially, made redundant in 2013 and have been struggling ever since, debt is a major problem". christopher says, struggling ever since, debt is a major problem". christophersays, "i just get £60 per week from a cleaning job and £20 on dla and without my family i would not be alive". matthew said on facebook, "predatory globalism and capitalism isa "predatory globalism and capitalism is a race to the bottom of the labour cost pile". can you see things changing? you are trying to
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earn what you can but are there any obvious options? short of searching and trying to find a betterjob which i don't have time to do and i love myjob, i don't want to leave it. i'm not even sure there's a decent salaryjob it. i'm not even sure there's a decent salary job out it. i'm not even sure there's a decent salaryjob out there. what do you do? i will read. decent salaryjob out there. what do you do? iwill read. it's decent salaryjob out there. what do you do? i will read. it's unusual, it is like a vocation for you?” like it and enjoyed it and the people i work with our great. what do you do? everybody in the country who died, there will come through the office and we compile information, give it to charities and government and things like that, inform charities when they get money. it is satisfying work. it is great. you don't want to change but you don't earn enough? know so i have to work on the weekends and realistically, you can't do that forever, working seven days a week. what about living in london? the living costs are more expensive,
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too. can you afford to stay in london? not really, i pay £1000 and ensuite room every month, which includes my bills but that is a lot of money, just for a room in zone two so i still have to get the train to work every day. short of moving further out, i was in whitechapel and had to move to stratford because i could not afford to live in whitechapel any more. realistically, i will have to move further out and pay more travel. how do you see your options? to be totally honest, i don't know, ijust feel it is not going to get any better. i have to keep an struggling. any means of me trying to get money, working extra hours, sometimes i work until aam, just to get extra hours. and you have kids? i have two kids. it must be very hard? it is so hard. so they can't have what they need basically. yes, it is half term now and a lot
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of the vision, when it is half term, it is like butlins and things like that, it proper hurts me to know that, it proper hurts me to know that it that, it proper hurts me to know thatitis that, it proper hurts me to know that it is half term and the kids have got to stay at home. how old are they now? seven and two and this is their prime time when they are asking me to go here and there but i can't do it. i asked you what you both thought the government could do in policy terms to help you but obviously, you are working, you are doing everything that you can to help yourselves. what responsibility do you feel the state has two you?” would definitely say that if you can see that we are notjust would definitely say that if you can see that we are not just sitting would definitely say that if you can see that we are notjust sitting at home, mum and dad sitting at home, we are going out there and doing something, i think we should get something, i think we should get some kind of support to see that they are trying and it is hard. and then we can kind of try to make it a bit easierfor them. but then we can kind of try to make it a bit easier for them. but i think they need to do a bit more to kind of see that there is a lot of people
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in dire need and still working. and the pressures on you? most definitely. thank you forjoining us. definitely. thank you forjoining us. and telling us about your experiences, and thanks for your comments. keep your thoughts coming still to come. does a career of heading footballs lead to dementia in professional footballers ? lead to dementia in professional footballers? new evidence suggests there could be a link. we will speak to the daughter of the former england strikerjeff astle who says her father ‘s death could have been down to his days on the pitch. also, data given exclusively to this programme revealed that more women in the uk are buying abortion pills online. we'll be speaking to the british pregnancy advisory service who provided the fiugures. also about why they say it could be dangerous. away from the row about donald
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trump's national security adviser, the administration has had a peace deal to israel and the palestinians may not come in the form of a two state solution. a white house official said the peace process was a priority for president trump — but he did not want to dictate the terms. mr trump will hold talks with the israeli prime minister benjamin neta nyahu later today. barbara plett—usher takes a look at what's on the agenda. this is a moment for israel and america to take stock of their relationship. here are netanyahu and trump's four priorities. first, this isa trump's four priorities. first, this is a chance to reset israeli—american relations at the top. 0bama did not get on so well with neta nyahu top. 0bama did not get on so well with netanyahu but now...” top. 0bama did not get on so well with netanyahu but now... i think he's good, i like him, he's strong. and trump has promised to be the most pro—israel president ever. and trump has promised to be the most pro-israel president ever. i'm the best thing that could happen to israel. be bred for lots of mutual admiration. i plan to speak soon with president, but how to counter the threat of the uranium regime which calls for israel's destruction. at the top of netanyahu's gender is iran. both
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leaders are fierce critics of 0bama's deal to curb iran's nuclear programme. this is a bad deal. it was the worst deal i've ever seen negotiated. netanyahu wants to scrap the agreement and trump is more likely to enforce it vigorously and taken of harder line against iran. and then there is the battle against so—called islamic state. trump has roused to crush the group in syria. netanyahu roused to crush the group in syria. neta nyahu is all roused to crush the group in syria. netanyahu is all for roused to crush the group in syria. neta nyahu is all for that. roused to crush the group in syria. netanyahu is all for that. but he does not want any of this to spill over israel's shared border with syria. and israel may want american help to foster covert cooperation with some arab countries on counterterrorism and also on a shared desire to counter iran. finally, the hot ticket question, trump's policy for peace with the palestinians. he wants to know netanyahu's palestinians. he wants to know neta nyahu's plan. palestinians. he wants to know netanyahu's plan. he is still forming his own and it seems to stray from bedrock us positions. they are support for a palestinian state and opposition tojewish
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settle m e nts state and opposition tojewish settlements built on israeli—occupied land expected to form part of that state. trump the candidate said israel should keep building but trump the president has been cautiously rowing back. we don't believe the existence of current settlement is an impediment to peace but i think the construction or expansion of existing settlements beyond the current borders is not going to be helpful moving forward. netanyahu is also seeking a better read on trump's future decisions. campaign promises are one thing. complicated realities are another, especially if the president is a businessman who harbours hopes of making the ultimate deal on middle east peace. here's reeta chakra baty in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today's news. malaysian authorities say they have detained a woman from myanmar in connection with the death of kimjong—nam, the half—brother of north korean leader kimjong—un. kimjong—nam died kim jong—nam died after an apparent poison attack in the airport in kuala lumpur on monday. south korea
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says they believe he was killed by north korean agents. north korea have not commented on the death but officials from the country's malaysia dempsey have been visiting the hospital in kuala lumpur where mr kim's body has been taken. the number of abortion pills being bought online in britain is on the rise, according to data shown to the victoria derbyshire programme. government figures show 375 doses, sent to addresses in england, wales and scotland, were seized in 2016, compared with just five in 2013. taking the pills while pregnant without medical approval is illegal in the uk. we'll have more on that story shortly. ukip has rejected an offer of resignation from one of its press officers whose was responsible for misleading personal information about the hillsborough disaster contained an —— website of party leader paul nuttall. mr nuttall admitted yesterday, in an appearance on liverpool's radio city talk, that claims that he's lost a close, personal friend in the tragedy were untrue. he said he hadn't written or seen the information on his website before it was posted.
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hundreds of people in the new zealand city of christchurch have been evacuated as wildfires threatened houses in its suburbs. a state of emergency has been declared and the military called in to help battle the blaze in the city's southern port hills district. it is thought the fire has destroyed at least seven houses and forced around 300 people to flee. several people are still unaccounted for after the explosion in oxford yesterday which destroyed a three—storey block of flats. three people were hurt in the blast, in the south west of the city. two people were treated for minor injuries and one was taken to hospital. the cause of the explosion is unknown. although care leavers make up 1% of all 19 and 21—year—olds they accounted for 7% of deaths amongst that age group last year. it is thought that poor mental health and
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difficulties accessing support could be to blame. the government says it is investing £10 million in support for those leaving care. a lack of sex and relationships education in some of england's secondary schools is creating a ticking timebomb according to local councils. the local government association says that pupils are not being prepared for adulthood and it is calling for sex education to be compulsory in secondary schools. currently all schools under local authority control have to teach the subject. but academies and free schools, which are controlled by central government, are not obliged to cover the subject. harrison ford has been involved in a near miss whilst flying his plane in california. the 7a—year—old actor mistakenly landed on a taxiway at john wayne airport. an investigation is underway. that's a summary of
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the latest bbc news. more at 10am. we are getting latest unemployment figures through. unemployment fell by 7,000 according to the latest official figures by 7,000 according to the latest officialfigures and by 7,000 according to the latest official figures and the claimant count fell by a2 ,a00 to 7a5,000. the office for national statistics putting the figures out. we'll bring you more detail. more detail on earnings as well coming through. average earnings increased by 2.6% in the year to december which was down by 0.2% on the previous month. we had the inflation figures yesterday and inflation was up last month compared with december, up to 1.8% from 1.6%, but average earnings increases, still outstripping that, increased by 2.6% in the year to december, but it was down by 0.2% on the previous month. so we'll bring
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you more on those figures and reaction to it clear. here's some sport now with will perry. barcelona were thrashed a—0 in the last 16 of the champions league by paris st germain last night. benfica beat borussia dortmund. arsenal in champions league action tonight. they play the first leg of their tie to bayern munich. arsene wenger‘s side have been knocked out at this stage in the last four yea rs. and floyd may weatherjoinior denies reports that he agreed a bout with conor mcgregor. mayweather retired from boxing in september 2015. mcgregor has never fought a professional boxing match and says he wants £18 million to fight
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mayweather. we will see you later. now, for the first time, a scientific study has found a possible link between head injuries and dementia in former football players. researchers studied the brains of six former footballers who had died from dementia, and discovered that some of them had a form of the disease, chronic traumatic encephalopathy, which is linked to repeated blows to the head. before this study we have only had anecdotal reports that footballers might be more prone to develop dementia in later life. let's show you pictures of the england world cup winning squad in 1966. some of the squad have alzheimer's. although we can't say they developed the condition from playing in the game, it is feared their illness could be linked to decades of heading traditional leather cased footballs. we can speak to dawn astle, the daughter of the former england
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and west brom footballer, jeff astle. jeff died at the age of 59 from a degenerative brain disease, which was linked to heading old leather footballs, and after reading the report, dawn says there are hundreds if not thousands of other footballers out there suffering from something similar. we also have peter mccabe, chief executive of headway, the brain injury association. dawn, you have been pushing for more research to be done into this. what is your reaction to this research? well, sadly, i'm not surprised because when the coroner ruled back in 2002 that dad's job had killed him. he ruled industrial disease, it was then that the footballing authorities should have taken this really seriously because people were losing their lives, but when dad's brain was re—examined two years ago, it was actually found that he didn't have alzheimer's, he had got cte and
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he became the first british footballer to have been diagnosed, that was the reason for his death. and of course, we know that the disease has been found in nfl players and ice hockey players and by players and ice hockey players and rugby players and our question has a lwa ys rugby players and our question has always been, when it has been two —fold, always been, when it has been two—fold, one my dad was a footballer, how did he die of boers footballer, how did he die of boxer‘s brain? the second one is have we got a problem with dementia in ourformer have we got a problem with dementia in our former players? have we got a problem with dementia in ourformer players? i really do think we have a serious problem.” mean obviously on that, there is no proper answer to that from this research because it is a small study and they are saying they need to carry out further research. if terms of your situation, when did you and yourfamily first of your situation, when did you and your family first make a link between what happened to your dad and heading the ball?” between what happened to your dad and heading the ball? i think it was virtually straightaway as soon as dad was diagnosed. we couldn't
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understand how someone was so physically fit and all the brain cells were dying at the front of the brain. so it wasn't a surprise to us that the coroner's ruling of industrial disease, but i think what did shock us when the pathologist at the time stood in the court and described how badly damaged dad's brain was. he said that there was considerable trauma throughout the brain and it was the repeated heading of footballs that had caused it. and when dad's brain was re—examined two years ago and ct was found, the doctor willie stewart who performed or looked at dad's brain again, he actually said to us if he hadn't of known that he was looking at the brain of a man of 59, he would have thought he was looking at the brain of a man of at least 89 or in his 905. we're talking about old—style footballs, leather footballs that would get rain sodden and would
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weigh up to 3lb5 when sodden with water. your dad, ithink, described heading a football as being like heading a football as being like heading a football as being like heading a bag of bricks? yes, he did. ye5, heading a bag of bricks? yes, he did. yes, he did. he did used to say that, but it was part of the game and it was his that, but it was part of the game and it was hi5job that, but it was part of the game and it was his job and that's what he did and he was brilliant at it and it's just, you he did and he was brilliant at it and it'sjust, you know, just really sad and really tragic that when he died, you know, he was surrounded by england caps and his fa cup winners medal and his league cup medal and everything that he won in football, football had ta ken everything that he won in football, football had taken away because he died not even knowing that he had ever been a footballer. when industrial disease was mentioned by the coroner, did that then lead you down the path of thinking well, there should be compensation? have you had any conversations about that? no, it wasn't. i mean it was a landmark ruling of its kind and i think in
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any other industry it would have had either quake repercussions for that industry in question. but it seems, football and its privileged status have been self governing and seem to wriggle out of it and that's wrong because all we wanted was answers. answers as to why dad had died. what had killed him? and how many other players had been affected? we need to know. all the families of all these other former players need to know and more importantly, football needs to know. peter, obviously still a lot of unanswered questions, but what is your view of this research and where it takes things? well, i think dawn has campaigned tirelessly to get answers to these questions and if it were my dad i would and wouldn't we all want answers to these questions and i think she deserves answers to these
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questions as do the other families and it's time the fa actually conducted a detailed and large scale study so that they can have answers. what would your concerns be? there will be people thinking my child plays football or i play football. what should people be thinking about heading footballs? i know in the united states there is a ban on kids under ten actually being able to head footballs. would you like to see something similar here? well, my two sons played football. and my grandson plays football and i played foot ball grandson plays football and i played football and i remember heading the very heavy leather footballs and when they were wet, they were like heading a lump of concrete. sol think there are two issues. the first one is the families deserve answers to those questions. the second is, does this study, which analysed the brains of six former footballers in detail, give us sufficient evidence to make policy
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decisions about, you know, should youngsters be heading balls? ithink the answer is there is not enough evidence with this study, but, you know, what it does clearly show is there is a need for further research. now, football is such a wealthy game and you know, i have been looking back on old e—mails. three years ago i put the football authorities this touch with so. finest scientists in this field because they were asking about conducting research. sol because they were asking about conducting research. so i went out of my way to find those people, put them in touch and absolutely nothing has happened and it's time that dawn got her answers and parents would then be in a position to assess the risk and make sensible decisions going forward. i wouldn't want to discourage youngsters from playing foot ball discourage youngsters from playing football because there are so many health benefits, but we do need to get to the bottom of this. dawn, what's your view, do you have a view
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on whether kids should be heading a ball? it's difficult because we need the evidence there to make informed choice, that's what it is about, it is about making informed choices and i think we all know, you know, the benefits of sports participation. we all know that. but brain damage must never be seen as all know that. but brain damage must never be seen as a all know that. but brain damage must never be seen as a acceptable consequence of it. it must never be seen as consequence of it. it must never be seen as that and that's why it is so vitally important that the research is conducted and if i can go back to the ball and yes, we know in dad's day it was incredibly heavy and it absorbed the water. but we know that there is no evidence to suggest that there is no evidence to suggest that the modern day ball is any safer and that's purely because of the physics of actually heading the ball. the modern day ball was slow and heavy, but the modern day ball is lighter, but the modern day ball is lighter, but travels faster and the motion of the brain being rocked backwards and forwards inside the skull is still happening whether it be an old ball ora happening whether it be an old ball or a modern day ball. thank you both
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very much. let us know your thoughts on that as well. the usual ways of getting in touch. south korea says it's certain that the half—brother of north korea's leader kim jong—un has been killed in malaysia. he was apparently poisoned in an attack at kuala lumpur airport. his brother kim jong—un his brother kimjong—un has been in charge of north korea since 2011. let's take a look at what life in the secretive state is like. no photos, no photos!
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singing. # happy birthday to you #. in seoulfor us is kevin kim. it is being claimed that kim jong—nam has been killed by north korean agents. why would they want to do that? it is largely because of what he may have said previously about his half brother. he has done interviews where he has been openly critical of him and many have believed that for north korean spy
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agencies —— the north korean spy agencies —— the north korean spy agencies may have been trying to reach him for some time. most north koreans may not know this because it isa koreans may not know this because it is a taboo subject inside their country, but kim jong—il, is a taboo subject inside their country, but kimjong—il, the is a taboo subject inside their country, but kim jong—il, the father of the current leader, had married several times and had many children from different spouses. ever since kimjong—ildied, from different spouses. ever since kim jong—il died, five years ago, his eldest son, kim jong—nam, kim jong—il died, five years ago, his eldest son, kimjong—nam, has spent most of his time overseas, mostly in asia. many believe this was not by choice but from an enforced exile, based on rivalry with his younger half brother, kim jong—nam, the leader of north korea. -- kim jong—nam, the leader of north korea. —— kimjong—iland jong—nam, the leader of north korea. —— kimjong—il and —— jong—nam, the leader of north korea. —— kimjong—iland —— kimjong—un, who has a record for brutality and is believed to have ordered the execution of his uncle in 2012. are we ever likely to hear any proof for
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evidence if it is north korean agents behind this? already, there are fresh reports of a woman being detained as a suspect for the crime. the malaysian authorities earlier had released a photo of a young asian woman with heavy make up and casual clothes, believed to be one of the assailants. now the local media is reporting that several others, possibly part of the same group, may be being pursued. initially, the south korean media sourced an unnamed government official that kim jong—nam was killed with a poisonous needle. 0ther killed with a poisonous needle. other reports in the lazier mentioned a spray and the latest account seems to be that a woman had approached mr kim from behind and covered his face with a cloth laced with liquid. —— from malaysia. there
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seems to have been some kind of physical contact with mr kimmince was waiting at the airport. but based on all of these reports, it seems highly likely an investigation is likely to take place, focusing on a deliberate attempt of murder through poisoning, and an autopsy may take place to reveal the exact cause of death. some analysts believe this could have been a deliberate attempt at assassination by the leadership in pyongyang. thank you forjoining us. breaking news that we are getting from the courts, that rolf harris will face a retrial on three of the counts which ajury retrial on three of the counts which a jury could not reach a verdict on in his trial. 0ne charge which the jury in his trial. 0ne charge which the jury could not reach a verdict on, he will not face retrial on, and he will also face another charge of indecent assault against one of the alleged victims. he will be facing a retrial on three counts after a jury could not reach a verdict in the
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trial which ended last week. data exclusively given to this programme shows there's been a jump in the number of abortion pills being bought online in mainland uk, despite the ability to access legal services on the nhs. the british pregnancy advisory service says by taking the pill they have bought online, women face life in prison and they want the law changed. this is what we know. the number of women in england, scotland and wales buying abortion pills online is rising. in 2013, five doses of the abortion pills were seized coming into great britain. last year, that number rose to 375. under current law, taking the pills can be punishable by life imprisonment, no matter how far along you are into your pregnancy. two women have been sentenced to time in prison. 0ne terminated her pregnancy after 2a weeks and got two and half years. the other was almost at the end of her pregnancy, and was sentenced to eight. but why would women take them when legal abortions are available in england,
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scotland and wales anyway? we've been hearing some anonymous testimonies. i'm in the uk, but it's impossible for me to get to a clinic due to having a disabled daughter that ijust can't leave, and i have no one else i can trust. i'm in a complete mess. clinics have said i have to leave my daughter at home, but i have no one else at all to have her. i was hoping to have a termination in the comfort of my own home, withoutjudgmental eyes and without worrying about my husband knowing. i fear what would happen if he did. being a foreign student, i can't afford this country's prices of procedure. and the place in line for supported abortions is too long and not guaranteed. i feel absolutely horrible and desperate. the british pregnancy advisory service says it's time to bring women's reproductive healthcare into the 21st century, and remove abortion from criminal law. ann furedi is the chief executive of the british pregnancy advisory service and wants women to be able
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to buy the pills legally. and scanlon works for a pro—life charity and believes abortion pills should be illegal. dr rebecca gomperts is from women on web, who sell abortion pills to women around the world online. thank you forjoining us. rebecca, first, tell us why you are selling the pills online. who is buying them? ijust want the pills online. who is buying them? i just want to correct this. we don't sell pills online. this is an online service which is providing help to women that need it. so you connect people who want the pills... we sent e—mails to women all over the world, sometimes advising them to try to find medicines locally, and women from the uk, for example, we always referred to the existing abortion services that are there. but what we have noticed from the e—mails that we get is that a lot of
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women in the uk really have trouble accessing existing services. that is because indeed it is much too regulated, much too restricted. this problem can only be solved when medical abortions, for example, are available through a perception in pharmacies. tell us then, the sort of women from the uk who are getting pills via your website. you say it is too regulated but abortion is obviously available legally in the uk, as long as you go to the doctor. and it is free on the nhs. yes, it is free on the nhs but it is not a lwa ys is free on the nhs but it is not always easy for women to access the free services. for example, foreign stu d e nts free services. for example, foreign students don't have nhs coverage. they have to pay for their own abortions and sometimes it is up to £500. some of the illegal women that live in the uk, a woman that has emigrated and works as a cleaning lady somewhere, they don't have £500 to pay for an abortion and they are
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not covered by the nhs. by the way, this is not just not covered by the nhs. by the way, this is notjust a problem in the uk. but i want to focus specifically on the uk so i want to bring in ann furedi, and the number of people getting these pills from u:k.'s increasing, to what extent? we heard about the numbers of pills that have been stopped coming into the country but we don't really know how many women are buying them. but it is ridiculous that women in this country should feel the need to do that. that is really where the crime is. there are two big problems. one is. there are two big problems. one is that these abortion pills, which are extremely safe and which effectively cause a very early miscarriage, they are incredibly safe for women to use and yet... but you can get them from the doctor, kyron duke, for an early miscarriage under medical supervision but where it is illegal is buying it online and people are using them when it is
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not for early miscarriage. no, the point is abortion in this country is only available in hospitals and in specially licensed clinics like ours. with this, you have a kind of medication that it is perfectly appropriate for a woman to use in her own home and yet she is required to either go to a hospital with the facilities or a clinic like ours. in other countries around the world, women can get them from their family doctor, or indeed, in some countries, they can get them on prescription from a pharmacist. but in this country, the problem is abortion, even when it is this early in the pregnancy, and it is a straightforward — — in the pregnancy, and it is a straightforward —— as straightforward —— as straightforward as taking tablets come is as regulated as much later termination. but this is illegal, and ann scanlon, what is your perspective, should it stay illegal?
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the problem is, the women you have given examples of is that these people do not meet the criteria of the abortion act. and as you say, abortion has been decriminalised. neither of these women would have been given an abortion in this country. it is very hard for me to imagine why someone who has a full—term baby, and i'm astonished that i would support that, should be able to abort a full—term baby in the comfort of their living room. not specifically necessarily on that but abortion pills, if they are bought online at all by someone when they are using up —— them at an early stage, is it right to criminalise someone for that?” wouldn't like to see women criminalise but i would criminalise the providers. iwas criminalise but i would criminalise the providers. i was surprised to discover there are more than twice as many complications from medical abortions as there are from surgical abortions. i find abortions as there are from surgical abortions. ifind it abortions as there are from surgical abortions. i find it quite astonishing. that is not true. look at the statistics. the department of
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health statistics, i looked them up yesterday. hang on, let the response happen. it is simply not true. the point about these drugs is that they are less risky than many of the drugs that we buy over—the—counter in pharmacies. they are less risky than aspirin, for example. that is the cause of many deaths. however, the cause of many deaths. however, theissue the cause of many deaths. however, the issue is, is that abortion is often not straightforward and no one wants women driven to buying tablets online and certainly, nobody wants women to be stepping outside of the law. but in this case, the law is constructive in a way that is archaic. your argument is nonsense. maggie lieu we don't want women to be sent to prison. let ann scanlon
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comeback on this. this woman to jordan abortion at 39 weeks and it's about that last year there were 209 complications of medical abortions before a woman even left the clinic. i find it astonishing that an organisation who knows the health risks and the complications would even attempt to put women's lives at risk in this manner. i think it is astonishing. we are out of time but thank you forjoining us. let us know your thoughts on that. we'd love to hear from you if you have bought abortion pills online or thought about it. the usual ways of getting in touch. let's get the latest weather update — with matt taylor. a sense spring in the air as part as the weather is concerned, a0 degrees on the isle of skye yesterday and close to that for one or two today. rainfall south—west england and through the day it will spread its way into the south—east, the midlands and north west by the start of the afternoon, reaching the eastern coast of england and south west scotland by the evening. blustery showers in northern ireland but staying sunny, could hit 13 of
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the moray firth, and brighter in wales and the south—west later with 13 possible here as well. a slightly milder regime but cooler tonight than last night across england and wales with clearer skies and some mist and fog to the south but a mild night to come for scotland and northern ireland with quite a blustery wind and occasional showers. going into thursday, the southern half of the uk largely dry with sunshine, mist and fog gradually clearing, lots more sunshine for england and wales tomorrow. scotland and northern ireland, passing showers every now and again, some of them on the heavy side and quite a wind. temperature wise, should be about eight this time of year but most of you above that and the trend will continue through the rest of the week and into the start of next week. temperatures above where they should be for the time of year and by monday, one or two could be getting 16 or 17. goodbye. good morning. i'm joanna gosling. a woman has been arrested in
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connection with the murder of kim jong—nam. kimjong—nam jong—nam. kim jong—nam was believed to be attacked while he waited for a flight attacked while he waited for a flight at kuala lumpur airport. repeatedly heading footballs during a player's career could be linked to long—term brain damage. new research adds call for changes to the rules, to protect young players. the coroner ruled back in 2002 that dad'sjob had killed him. he ruled industrial disease. it was then that the footballing authorities should have taken this really seriously because people were losing their lives. author philip pullman has announced the publication of the long—awaited follow—up to his best—selling his dark materials series of novels. the new trilogy is called the book of dust and the first novel will come out in october,
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17 years after the last instalment. here's reeta in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today's news. in the last hour, malaysian police have told the bbc they've arrested two people in connection with the death of kim jong—nam, the half—brother of north korean leader kim jong—un. one of those arrested is a woman holding a vietnamese passport. the other is a taxi driver who has since been released. kim jong—nam died after an apparent poison attack at the airport in kuala lumpur on monday. south korea says they believe he was killed by north korean agents. north korea has not commented on the death but officials from the country's embassy in malaysia have been visiting the hospital in kuala lumpur where mr kim's body has been taken. the macian authorities released a photo of a young asian woman with heavy make—up in casual clothes
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believed to be one of the assailant‘s. now the local media is reporting that several others possibly part of the same group, maybe being pursued. initially the south korean media sourced an unnamed individual that kim jong—nam was killed with a poisonous needle. then other reports in malaysia mentioned a spray and the latest account seems to be that a woman had approached mr kim from behind and covered his face with a cloth laced with a liquid. there seems to be some kind of physical contact with mr kim as he was waiting at the airport. but based on all of these reports, it seems highly likely an investigation is likely to take place focussed on a deliberate attempt of murder through poisoning and an autopsy may take place to reveal the exact cause of death. some analysts believe this could
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have been a deliberate attempt at ais as is as nation by the leadership. —— ash assassination. figures out this morning show that unemployment fell in the last three months of 2016. the number of people out of work dropped by 7,000 to 1.6 million in the three months to december. meanwhile, average earnings rose by 2.6% in the year to december. that's down 0.2% on the equivalent figure for the previous month. the us media are reporting that members of president trump's campaign team had repeated contacts with senior russian intelligence officials in the year before the us presidential election. it follows the resignation of the national security adviser, general mike flynn, over allegations surrounding a phone call he had with a senior russian diplomat before president trump took power. it follows the resignation of the national security adviser, general mike flynn, over allegations surrounding a phone call he had with a senior russian diplomat before president trump took power. general flynn quit after it was revealed he had misled
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the white house over the nature of the call. it's alleged he discussed the future of us sanctions on russia. senior republicans have joined calls for an investigation into the affair. ukip has rejected an offer of resignation from one of its press officers who was responsible for misleading personal information about the hillsborough disaster contained on the website of party leader paul nuttall. mr nuttall admitted yesterday, in an appearance on liverpool's radio city talk, that claims that he's lost a close, personal friend in the tragedy were untrue. he said he hadn't written or seen the information on his website before it was posted. rolf harris is to face a retrial on three sex offence charges following the failure by a jury at southwark crown court to reach a verdict on them. the 86—year—old former tv personality will also face one new charge of indecent assault. last week, he was found not guilty on three counts, with the jury unable to reach a verdict on four other charges. researchers studied the brains of six former players who died from
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dementia and discovered that some of them had a form of the disease linked to repeated blows to the head. the number of abortion pills being bought online in britain is on the rise, according to data shown to the victoria derbyshire programme. government figures show 375 doses, sent to addresses in england, wales and scotland, were seized in 2016, compared with just five in 2013. taking the pills while pregnant without medical approval is illegal in the uk. hundreds of people in the new zealand city of christchurch have been evacuated as wildfires threatened houses in its suburbs. a state of emergency has been declared and the military called in to help battle the blaze in the city's southern port hills district. it is thought the fire has destroyed at least seven houses and forced around 300 people to flee. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 10.30am. three—quarters of police forces
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in england and wales say record levels of hate crimes were reported in the three months following the eu referendum. good morning. the european giants barcelona are thrashed a—0 in the last 16 of the champions league by paris st—germain to leave them in danger of failing to reach the quarter—finals for the first time in a decade. angel di maria scored twice for psg on his 29th birthday, his first a free—kick. then julian draxler smashed in a second before di maria curled an effort into the top corner. another psg birthday boy edinson cavani and then sealed a famous win with a powerful fourth on the day he turned 30. in last night's other game, benfica beat borussia dortmund 1—0 in lisbon. the goal scored by former fulham striker kostas mitroglou.
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arsenal play the first leg of their last 16 tie away to bayern munich. arsene wenger‘s side has been nobbled out of that stage in last of the six years. despite their poor record, arsene wenger says there is to reason they can't put it right. i feel we have the experience. we play against bayern every year with the same target. it is to win the champions league and when you look at their record, they are always basically in the last four. so it's a massive challenge, but i think we are capable of dealing with it. former sunderland striker asamoah gyan is among a group of more than a0 players deemed to have "unethical hair" under united arab emirates football association guidelines. the ghanaian is on loan at dubai—based arabian gulf league side al ahli from shanghai sipg.
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in 2012, saudi arabia goalkeeper waleed abdullah was told to cut his "un—islamic" hair by the referee before playing for his club side al shabab. the bbc has asked for clarification on its guidelines and is awaiting a response. floyd mayweatherjr denies reports he's already agreed a bout with conor mcgregor, but has called on the ufc champion to "get the fight done". mayweather retired from boxing for a second time in september 2015. mcgregor has never fought a professional boxing match and wants £80 million for the fight! there was double british success at the awards last night. rachel atherton won sports person of the year and leicester city won the spirit of sport award. leicester's manager was on hand to accept the award. the american gymnast won the sports woman of the year gong. usain
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bolt took up a record equalling fourth award in the men's category. that's all the sport for now. i'll have the headlines at 10.30am. rolf harris is to face a retrial on three sex offence charges. he will also face another charge of indecent assault. 0ur correspondent dan johnson is at southwark crown court. what can you tell us, dan? a retrial on 15th may. there were four charges that the jury here last week at the end of his trial couldn't reach a verdict on. this morning, the crown prosecution service has said it wa nts to ta ke prosecution service has said it wants to take three of those charges forward to a retrial, but one of them will be split into two separate accounts. so there are four charges that mr harris faces. that new charge was put to him this morning and he pleaded not guilty. he has not been here in court. he appeared via videolink from prison because he is already serving a sentence because of convictions that he was found guilty of back in 201a. he was
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expecting to be released from that original sentence injuly. expecting to be released from that original sentence in july. so expecting to be released from that original sentence injuly. so it appears the retrial has been scheduled to take place before that possible release so he should know his fate before he was originally expecting to be released from prison. this morning his defence has also raised with the judge the possibility of a further appeal against those original convictions. that's something they've already tried once and haven't been allowed to proceed with. again, fresh questions were raised with the judge and a suggestion his defence team may push for an appeal of those convictions, but he will be fighting the trial expected to start here in may. thank you very much, dan. for the first time, a scientific study has found a possible link between head injuries and brain damage in former footballers. researchers studied the brains of six former players who had died from dementia, and discovered that some of them had a form of the disease linked to repeated blows to the head. we can speak to former footballers ian stjohn,
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kevin davies, gordon smith and child's football coach nathan sargeson. thank you all very much indeed for joining us. ian, iwanted thank you all very much indeed for joining us. ian, i wanted to come to you first. you played for liverpool from 1961 to 1971 and a large number of yourformer from 1961 to 1971 and a large number of your former team—mates have got dementia, haven't they? just tell us what you have seen. well, i mean, we're talking about that age group that played at that time. of my team—mates, six of them, six in a group of at that time, there wasn't big squads of players. i would say ina group big squads of players. i would say in a group of maybe 16 players you've got six of them that has got alzheimer's. so, it is quite, you know, a large percentage i think. yes, i mean the research today does not give a sort of definitive answer as to whether football would be the cause of that. it is a limited
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study, but from your experience anecdotally, the knock to the head that you would have taken playing and heading the old—fashioned leather footballs, what are your thoughts? well, for people of my vintage, i would say, you know, thoughts? well, for people of my vintage, iwould say, you know, all of the facts that we have got stand up. i don't know why the fa and the pfa have covered this up for years. imeani pfa have covered this up for years. i mean i talked about it to the pfa a couple of years ago and their a nswer a couple of years ago and their answer was, "well, women get alzheimer's so therefore, its not an industrial injury." with a football." it is a load of nonsense. ido football." it is a load of nonsense. i do think the studies that are being done now will prove the point that the heading the ball, that heavy ball, in our era, i don't know about today's light ball, in our era heading that heavy ball day in and day out, it is not the matches, it is training as well, so you're
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banging the heavy balls and the lads now, at this stage of their lives are either dying or have dementia. i want to bring in kevin, you are a former player. are you surprised about what the research is indicating potentially on there being a link between heading the ball and dementia? good morning. i wouldn't say i'm surprised. when you start to look at the numbers in terms of professional players, the amount of contact they have with the ball, if you look at my career for instance, over 800 career games and you take into training and all the training methods and things, the numbers start to stack up, it could be between 10,000 and 50,000 times that you're heading the ball and listening to ian, they are different. the ball has changed a lot. the training methods have changed a lot now. you see some sessions where you were hurling balls to the deaders and pinging the balls to the deaders and pinging the ball at pace for them to head the
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balls. it was scary at the time. that has changed and the style of foot ball that has changed and the style of football has changed a lot. but there needs to be more research and more evidence with the new foot balls, more evidence with the new footballs, they are lighter compared to back in the 505 and 60s. footballs, they are lighter compared to back in the 50s and 60s. when you say it was scary at the time. did you ever feel any effects of it? no, not particularly. i'm well renowned for heading the ball and we used to get the stats back, it can be between a5 and 20 times. the one that concerns me most is from the goalkeepers, ball if hand and the centre—back is coming to head the ball. you're challenging for the ball. you're challenging for the ball and there is the concussions, we saw gary cahill and ryan mason clashing heads and they could have long—term effects further down the line, but playing con tableg sport, there will be a ricks. we know that as sports machine and they are the risks we're prepared to take, i
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think. do you think it is the job though of the gof rning bodies to look properly and maybe think about changes if there is a link? yes, this is based on 1a players and they examine six brains, and in four cases, they are looking for the cd which they only can when someone is deceased. there is definitely better science available now, mri scans, but to do more research into this will take another 15—20 years, i believe, if they start now. i think the pfa have got an expert concussion panel in place and are speaking to the fa and it is trying to divide the right methods and find a way of getting the right research done and how they will monitor that over a person's career. it needs to be done, and if there is a problem, it needs to be something we look into in terms of protecting young children. as a father myself, i don't see a lot of heading with
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young children and i know they banned it in the united states for under 11th. having watched grassroots football for a number of years, i don't see a lot of children heading balls so it is not a bit —— major concern for me now. nathan, you coach children playing football. what is your view of kids heading the ball? just to reiterate some of ian and kevin's points, really, you know, the latest footballs that are used have come a long way since ian's days and the technology around the ball, where it is more synthetic leather than a solid casing. but as kevin said, in grassroots football, you don't see a lot of kids heading the ball and really, it is how much is done at training, obviously, you have to limit the amount and think about it. and obviously, with the findings and the studies, you have to take it into account. when you say you don't see a lot of kids
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heading the ball, if it actively discouraged? 0h, heading the ball, if it actively discouraged? oh, it isjust because of the physicality of the children. —— no, it isjust. especially at the otherend, —— no, it isjust. especially at the other end, they aren't going to kick it 20 feet into the sky for it to come down and other kids to be encouraged to head the ball. it is more round the fact it is never really off the floor. gordon smith, a former scotland international and former chief executive of the sfa. have the football associations, the professional bodies, been active enough on this? not as yet but they are looking at it now. certainly, going back to the fact i'm ambassador of the scottish youth football association and they are looking at it because they understand what has happened in america regarding the ban on children heading the ball from 11 downwards. i agree with what kevin
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and nathan have both said, i see football at the younger level and because now the game has changed because now the game has changed because it is seven aside until the kids are 12, the ball is very rarely in the airso kids are 12, the ball is very rarely in the air so the kids don't head the ball as much now as they used to, no doubt about that. the second aspect of it is the fact that the balls are different from ian's day, coming into the game at first, the balls have improved a lot, they were very heavily and a lot of the damage was done because of those kinds of balls and people doing a lot of heading practice, no doubt about it. a recent study was done which had a few kids, a few young players, heading the ball 20 times each and then they did a test on them and they found that their memory had deteriorated over a 2a—hour period after heading 20 balls. it shows you that there is still damage being done from heading able and an effect from doing it. —— a ball. certainly,
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we need to stop and make sure the kids don't do it while their brains are developing and then maybe at an older age, we need to consider the fa ct older age, we need to consider the fact it is as little as possible in training. so when you say make sure the kids don't do it, as in something as specific as the ban in the us? yes, i think it will come in here. i think it will come to this country too. i would say from 12 yea rs country too. i would say from 12 years and other accommodation have no heading the ball at all. the -- 12 years and under, they should have no heading the ball. these concerns have been around a long time but this is the best research of its kind that has been done. have the professional footballing bodies kind that has been done. have the professionalfootballing bodies been remiss in not taking this issue seriously previously, and commissioning research? they have been, there should have been something on it. you can imagine something on it. you can imagine some time in the future, there might
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bea some time in the future, there might be a scenario where each player has do signa be a scenario where each player has do sign a disclaimer to say that they know they are taking a risk and regardless of what happens to them in the future regarding brainpower, maybe getting alzheimer's, that they signa maybe getting alzheimer's, that they sign a disclaimer to say that if they are playing football, they are taking a risk and therefore they will not sue the clubs because that is the biggest threat, that is why they are looking at it, they have introduced it in that part of the world in terms of doing something but a lot of people in this country, there should have been some kind of compensation for the relatives affected. what is your view on that, ian? the issue of compensation for people playing from your era? that is actually the big point about the whole thing. the fa and the pfa are just hiding behind, you know, whatever facts they have got. they don't want to be paying out for what would be classed as an industrial injury. you know, iwent
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would be classed as an industrial injury. you know, i went to the pfa a couple of years ago on the same topic, two years ago and said," friends of mine from liverpool, they all seem to be getting dementia". they went, "0k, leave it with us", and they came back and said, "it has nothing to do with football because women get dementia". 0f nothing to do with football because women get dementia". of course they do but football and the footballs we headed for years caused this and they are denying it. they are in denial about it. sorry to interrupt but you headed the ball, presumably. idid. but you headed the ball, presumably. i did. have you had any concerns yourself? i don't know how it works, why lads who headed the ball like i did, andl why lads who headed the ball like i did, and i get a bit forgetful but i don't have the big problem. this is another thing, when they are doing all of these surveys, why don't they do one about goalkeepers? how many goalkeepers have got dementia over the years? professional ones. if
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they did a survey, it would be interesting if there were none, which means that the goalkeeper, the only guy on the field who is not really heading the ball, who is eight —— is ok. it is the outfield players who get it. should there be a ban on children under 12 heading the ball? i'm worried about that because my grandchildren play foot ball because my grandchildren play football and they are in that age group. i would say, they are changing the way the game is played at that level, no kicking the ball over head height and so on so you don't have too high it, keep it on the carpet and pass around. that's fine. it is a form of football but heading the ball as a whiz been a big part of football. thank you for joining us. let us know your thoughts on this as usual. still to come: unemployment has fallen yet again, while the average amount people earn has gone up. we'll be getting some analysis on what these latest figures say about the state of the economy. three—quarters of police forces in england and wales say record
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levels of hate crimes were reported in the three months following the eu referendum. more than 1a,000 offences were recorded betweenjuly and september. the equality and human rights commission said the findings suggested a small number of people used the brexit vote to legitimise unacceptable behaviour. our home affairs correspondent dominic casciani is here and we can talk to him now. tell us more about the figures. last 0ctober, tell us more about the figures. last october, we had the first official figures, the first official attempt to work out what had happened after brexit because we had all of those stories in the days after the vote that there had been attacks or harassment of minorities, particularly eastern europeans, in some parts of the country. the figures in october revealed about 5500 incidents in weeks immediately after the referendum, a0% higher than the same period 12 months previously. now what we have had is a three—month total, fourjuly,
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august and september across all police forces. it tells us there we re police forces. it tells us there were 1a,000 hate crimes across the forces in england and wales. there is no comparable data for northern ireland and scotland. that means hate crime over that period was up about 27%. 33 of the aa forces, three quarters, saw their highest ever levels of hate crime recorded, effectively since records began in 2012. ten of the forces saw rises over 50% although four did the fall. it isa over 50% although four did the fall. it is a very complicated picture and in theory, it looks like 2016 is heading for a record year but i don't think we can say that yet because there are discrepancies about how individual forces deal with the data and what they classed asa with the data and what they classed as a hate crime. in the core data which is the key offences of things like assault and harassment and aggravated criminal damage like to mosques and synagogues, that kind of
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things, there was clearly arise. what about geographical areas where there were rises? can you draw any conclusions? it is interesting, what is going on, in percentage terms, dorset and nottinghamshire saw the highest rises, 100% and 75% respectively in the number of recorded incidents of people coming to them and saying what had happened. you have to be cautious because the numbers within that are quite small. greater manchester and west yorkshire police each recorded about 1000 incidents which makes sense because they are big metropolitan areas, leeds, bradford, manchester and so forth. the metropolitan police, 3500 incidents in london. what we think is that it is difficult to drill down to what is difficult to drill down to what is happening across the country. like looking at merseyside, a good example, they had quite a strong brexit vote but the rise in hate crime did not necessarily correlate with that. there will be lots of
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thinking by academics and police chiefs about what is really going on. and a word of caution, one thing the police think is happening is that there is increased reporting going on because more people are confident in coming forward and telling them what is going on. it is similarto telling them what is going on. it is similar to sexual offences in that sense which had lower reporting for yea rs sense which had lower reporting for years but when the police started going out and telling victims of rape to come forward and say what happened, more people came forward and some of this rise may be ultimately down to that. thank you for joining ultimately down to that. thank you forjoining us. still to come. as we learn more about what happened to the half—brother of north korea's leader, we'll be speaking to a writer and regular visitor to the country to find out what life is like in the secretive state. coming up. fans of the fiction writer philip pullman better take a seat. the author has announced the publication of the long—awaited follow—up to his best—selling series, his dark materials, 17 years after the last instalment. reeta chakrabarti is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news.
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malaysian police say they have arrested a woman and are searching for several other suspects as they investigate the sudden death of kim jong—nam, the half—brother of north korean leader kim jong—un. earlier, police said they released a taxi driver who they also arrested and questioned following the death. kim jong—nam died after an apparent poison attack at kuala lumpur airport on monday. south korea says they believe he was killed by north korean agents. north korea has not commented on the death but officials from the country's embassy in malaysia have been visiting the hospital in kuala lumpur where mr kim's body has been taken. figures out this morning show that unemployment fell in the last three months of 2016. the number of people out of work dropped by 7,000 to 1.6 million in the three months to december. meanwhile, average earnings rose by 2.6% in the year to december. that's down 0.2% on the equivalent figure for the previous month. the us media are reporting that
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members of president from's campaign tea m members of president from's campaign team had repeated contact with senior russian officials in the time before the general election. it follows the resignation of the national security adviser, general mike flynn, over allegations surrounding a phone call he had with a senior russian diplomat before president trump took power. general flynn quit after it was revealed he had misled the white house over the nature of the call. it's alleged he discussed the future of us sanctions on russia. senior republicans have joined calls for an investigation into the affair. rolf harris is to face a retrial on three sex offence charges following the failure by a jury at southwark crown court to reach a verdict on them last week. the 86—year—old former tv personality will also face one new charge of indecent assault. he has pleaded not guilty. the retrial will take place on the 15th of may. ukip has rejected an offer of resignation from one of its press officers who says she was responsible for misleading personal information about the hillsborough disaster
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contained on the website of party leader paul nuttall. mr nuttall admitted yesterday, in an appearance on liverpool's radio city talk, that claims that he's lost a close, personal friend in the tragedy were untrue. he said he hadn't written or seen the information on his website before it was posted. for the first time, a scientific study has found a possible link between head injuries and brain damage in former footballers. researchers studied the brains of six former players who died from dementia, and discovered that some of them had a form of the disease linked to repeated blows to the head. the daughter of the former england footballer jeff astle, who died at the age of 59 from a degenerative brain disease, told this programme the study might help answer questions about his death. it is tragic that when he died, he was surrounded by england caps and his fa cup winners medal and everything he had won in football.
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football had ta ken everything he had won in football. football had taken away because he died not even knowing that he had been a footballer. the question has a lwa ys been a footballer. the question has always been twofold, one, my dad was always been twofold, one, my dad was a footballer, so how did he die of boers a footballer, so how did he die of boxer‘s brain? and the second is have we got a problem with dementia in former players? i really think we have a serious problem. we are getting news that a three—year—old boy has died after being knocked down by a tractor on a farm in fife. the accident happened yesterday in the village of crossgates. that's a summary of the latest news. join me for bbc newsroom live at 11am. here's some sport with will. the european giants barcelona are thrashed a—nil in the last 16 of the champions league by paris st—germain to leave them in danger of failing to reach the quarter—finals for the first time in a decade. in last night's other game, benfica beat borussia dortmund 1—0 in lisbon. the goal scored by former fulham striker kostas mitroglou. arsenal are in champions league action tonight.
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they play the first leg of their last 16 tie of their last 16 tie away to bayern munich. arsene wenger‘s side have been knocked out at the stage in each of the last six years, it's the fourth time they've met bayern in the last 16 since 2005. floyd mayweather denies reports he's already agreed a bout with conor mcgregor, but has called on the ufc champion to "get the fight done". mayweather retired from boxing for a second time in september 2015. mcgregor has never fought a professional boxing match and has said he wants £80 million to fight mayweather. i will have more sport for you on the bbc news channel throughout the day. a woman has been arrested in malaysia in connection with the death of the north korean leader's half—brother. police say she was held at the airport in kuala lumpur. it has been revealed a until of suspects are wanted in connection with the death. his brother kimjong—un has been
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in charge of north korea since 2011. what does this mean for the so—called secretive state and what is life like inside north korea? paul french is the author of north korea: state of paranoia, and has been a regular visitor to the country since 2002. tell us first of all more about him, the half—brother? tell us first of all more about him, the half-brother? kim jong-nam is the half-brother? kim jong-nam is the oldest son of the former leader. he isa the oldest son of the former leader. he is a half—brother of choung and he was going to be the next leader, but in 2001 he took a trip to tokyo to visit disneyland on a fake passport. he got busted at immigration. this was a massive scandal and it ended his ascendancy and choung became the favourite to ta ke and choung became the favourite to take over and did and since then he has been in disgrace. what a random
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event to lead to a change in the succession. what does something like that tell us about what goes on in north korea? it tells us how close the kim family want to retain control and don't want trouble. what seems to have happened is not a surprise to people who watch korea. there was a long tradition in north korea of abductions, kidnappings and assassinations and bombings of people in the political hierarchy. would kim jong—nam have people in the political hierarchy. would kimjong—nam have been seen people in the political hierarchy. would kim jong—nam have been seen as a threat? well, this is the odd thing. kimjong—nam a threat? well, this is the odd thing. kim jong—nam has a threat? well, this is the odd thing. kimjong—nam has made one or two comments about how he thinks the country should liberalise a little bit. how he thinks that they should open up the economy a little bit, but he hasn't said anything. he doesn't have any following. there isn't a great troop of fans around him in the dissident community of north korea. why now is the kind of
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question that everyone asks? it is not surprising that they assassinate people that they perceive to be a threat to the regime, but what made kimjong—nam so threat to the regime, but what made kim jong—nam so dangerous to his brother? have you any thoughts? perhaps someone thought he was the person that could lead that. he has visited beijing several times and beijing is unhappy with north korea at the moment. they don't seem to be able to control them. if they thought it was some kind of coup attempt sponsored by someone else, another state perhaps, then they would have stepped in to nip that in the bud quickly. would that be paranoia? the bud quickly. would that be paranoia ? you the bud quickly. would that be paranoia? you said where the speculation lies in terms of any regime change operations. is there a
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sense that there is a sort of momentum? there is a sense of paranoia. there is a sense of, co nsta ntly paranoia. there is a sense of, constantly purging. constantly showing that people can disappear quickly in order to keep everyone scared and keep in control. the thing about the north koreans, if there was to be regime change, he hasn't got anywhere to go. no one is going to want him. they won't give him a villa in the south of france. it will end very badly. so, there has been a tendency to try at the slightest sign of any resistance to asi slightest sign of any resistance to as i say, nip it inned bud quickly and fatally. people living in north korea, will they have any clue? no, word may filter in as word does, but it won't be on the news. in terms of the, i mean it is obviously a very secretive country. he rules it with an iron fist. what is life like
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there? well, life is still pretty grim and it hadn't changed much over the last decades, really since the 19905 when there was a terrible famine. there is little food security. people still go hungry. there are lick theatrical plaque—outs and there is not enough med suns and it is cold in the winter. the leader pledged that he will improve life and give north korea a nuclear weapon to protect itself. last weekend we saw another missile test. they are getting closer to having a deliverable nuclear weapon. little steps, how close ? nuclear weapon. little steps, how close? we know they can do a nuclear explosion and fire a missile, they can't put the tip on the missile and fire that, it is only a matter of time. thank you very much indeed paul french. chris nunn, is a british
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photographer who's been capturing the conflict in eastern ukraine between government forces and russian backed separatists which began in 201a. earlier this month he was nearly blinded in one eye when the apartment he was in, was hit by a shell. his friend, a ukrainian woman, whose apartment it was, was killed by the blast. chris has given his first interview to our correspondent in ukraine, tom burridge. the vision in chris nunn's left eye is gradually coming back. i can see waving your hand like this. chris has covered the war in eastern ukraine as a photographer to a half yea rs. but when he and his colleague visited a friend's flat earlier this month, a shell landed outside. i remember, the whistle and the explosion and i remember everything going yellow, this bright light. i rememberjust checking to see if i had arms and legs and hands and i was try to check my face. just moments before, with the electricity
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out, chris recorded the fighting from his friend elaine's apartment. this selfie is one of the last pictures of her alive. itjust makes you understand the fragility of life out there, that things can just happen, just like that. we met her family grieving the following day. elena leaves her son, who is nine. the following day. we met her family grieving the following day. i actually saw his mum dying. i have a daughter also, and when we fill better with chris, we will go and speak to them about how we can help her son. elena had lived here in the city of avdiivka. it is controlled by ukraine's army. it is where fighting with russian backed separatists recently flared up again. the explosion outside elena's
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apartment blasted this tiny fragment of plastic into chris nunn's eyeball. so this is your actual operation. his doctor showed us video of the five—hour operation he performed to remove it and rebuild chris' eye. getting him quickly to one of ukraine's top hospitals was crucial for preventing him being blind in one eye. translation: if we had lost time, there would have been a 99% chance of him losing his sight completely. that's why we had to do the work in the first hours. we managed to extract the plastic and restore his retina. by the morning, chris was able to count my fingers. chris says he wants to keep photographing the people whose lives are trapped in the war zone of eastern ukraine. he's raising money for elena's family and he is lucky. the doctors think his full sight will return one day. lots of you getting in touch on
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poverty and the research on the number of people who are trying to get by on salaries, an income, way below the level that the foundation saysis below the level that the foundation says is necessary for an adequate lifestyle. jen says my daughter is a 2-1 lifestyle. jen says my daughter is a 2—1 graduate and works hard, but is struggling to manage other mortgage and bills and has to choose between heating and eating. she has to work the extra hours to survive. there is no government help and no permanent full—timejobs no government help and no permanent full—time jobs paying no government help and no permanent full—timejobs paying her the wage she needs. we told graduates that education is the key to a bright future. clearly, it isn't for the vast majority with degrees. a texter, "i get £130 a week from which i have to pay rent, feed and clothe myself. the answer, reduce mp5 salaries by half. that will bring in millions." christie tweets,
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"i think the figures are inflated. i'm below this poverty line and living fine." another tweets, "in—work poverty, a phenomenon. greed —— exploitation. " "in—work poverty, a phenomenon. greed —— exploitation." another viewer says, "if you can't afford to live in london, surely you have to move away." another texter says, "i ama move away." another texter says, "i am a married man. i live on £26,000 andi am a married man. i live on £26,000 and i have two cars and go abroad every year. i don't know where the reported figures come from." thank you. the long wait by fans of his dark materials trilogy for a follow—up is nearly over. 22 years after publication of the bestselling novels, the fantasy author philip pullman has revealed the story for the book of dust, which comes out in october. the original trilogy — northern lights, the subtle knife and the amber spyglass — is currently being adapted by the bbc. the new series will return to the story of lyra belacqua, and will begin when the heroine is a baby, and move on to when she is 20 years old.
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philip pullman has been talking to the bbc. the book of dust is something i have had in mind for a long time. the story of lyra is finished, but there are other stories that can be told about the people in the book and the world of the book and one of them has been occupying my imagination for quite sometime. sometimes when you write a story that comes before another story or after another story, people say is it a prequel or a sequel. it is neither. it is an equal. it is a different story. it begins roughly ten years before his dark materials and continues roughly ten yea rs dark materials and continues roughly ten years after his dark materials so we see ten years after his dark materials so we see lyra as ten years after his dark materials so we see lyra as a ten years after his dark materials so we see lyra as a baby. she is an important baby so all sorts of activity goes on around her and we see her in the second book as an
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adult. she is 20 years old. the ideal reader is someone who has read his dark materials or maybe read it asa his dark materials or maybe read it as a child. that's not to say this book can only be read by people who have passed a test by reading his dark materials first. i felt one day i would write something that would bea i would write something that would be a success. why did i feel that? conceit, i expect. in our brighton newsroom is the children's author and critic nick tucker. in huddersfield isjoanne harris, who's an admirer of pullman's work and herself an author. and in oxford is richard 0venden, who's the head librarian at the bodleian library at oxford university. thank you very much forjoining us. joanne, i think you're a friend of philip pullman's as well. what is it that you love about the books? well, i think they are wonderfully, beautifully written pieces of work and they cross over so well from children's fiction to adult fiction because they are peppered with so many literary reference that is
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children may or may not pick up. but there has never been any talking down to the audience with philip pullman's books. it has taken a long time foran pullman's books. it has taken a long time for an equal. why do you think it has taken so long? you are a friend of his? these things take time ta to be good they have to take the time that they take and it is very brave to announce that you're writing something and then to say well, you're not going to see it for yea rs well, you're not going to see it for years and years, but sometimes that's what you need because the readers deserve the best and they also will not give a book away if it is not finished. have you discussed him writing this privately? no, but i've heard him talk about it and i've heard him talk about it and i've heard him talk about it and i've heard mention of the book of dust and i was thinking i wonder when i get to read it? but you have to put that impatience aside. do you think he felt pressure to follow up? i hope not. i think he's probably
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tougher than that. i would have felt an enormous amount of pressure, but no, ithink an enormous amount of pressure, but no, i think he takes the time that he takes and that's right. nick tucker, are you excited about the new offering? definitely because having read the trilogy twice and written a book about it, i'm still not absolutely sure what dust is and he promises in the new book to finally nailed down this very fascinating but really quite ambiguous substance. so this will be a big publishing event. already people on twitter are terribly excited about it. although he does not leave you dangling exactly at the end of book— macro, you want to know what is going to happen to lyra and now we will know if she gets back together with a man
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she loves who happens to be living in another world. with something like this which is a phenomenon, people get very passionate about it. you are saying that you have read the books several times and there are things that you still don't understand. what is it about an author that becomes a phenomenon? understand. what is it about an author that becomes a phenomenon7m is when an author does not tie himself down to too much detail. , any particular idea of moment of history. if you can generalise with your writing, you can find that perhaps it has any relevance because it might refer to something that has not happened yet. philip is a very ambitious writer. he is a wonderful storyteller but he is also full of ideas. read one of his books and you are very entertained but you come
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out thinking about alternative parallel universes, about his fascination with quantum physics and string theory but all made very approachable by the genius of a storyteller who just makes you want to turn from the first page to the last. richard, you are joining us from oxford, from the bodleian library. the work is interwoven throughout 0xford. library. the work is interwoven throughout oxford. absolutely and one of the most exciting things about the promise of the new book is that for us in oxford, it will be to see how the city and the university buildings, the great institutions like the bodleian, the botanic gardens and the museums are going to feature in the new story. one of the most incredible things about book— macro has been most incredible things about book—macro has been the way in which he has conjured —— about his dark
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materials is the way he's put together the magical world and the real world. we can walk around the city and think of passages from the books. the idea that we have got more to do a ranging from the pitt rivers museum, or the physics department, or suburban streets, the bodleian, obviously, that isjust an incredibly exciting thing, an exciting prospect in store. particularly in these kind of very challenging times, to have this incredibly rich and stimulating imaginary world, this very compelling and moving story, to be able to go back into that world is just such an enticing prospect. joanne harris, how would you rank him asa joanne harris, how would you rank him as a writer? where would you put him? he's a top class writer in any genre. thank you forjoining us. fans will not have too much longer
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to wait when you think about how long it has been, many years but now it will be october. the latest unemployment figures show another drop in the number of people out of work. the figures include three months up to december show that unemployment fell by 7,000 to 1.6 million. average earnings also increased by 2.6% in the year to december but that's down by 0.2% on the previous month. the employment rate, the proportion of people aged from 16—6a who were in work, was 7a.6%, the highest since comparable records began in 1971. with me now is our economics correspondent andy verity. what do these figures say about the state of the economy? good morning. we are seeing the same thing in a way that we have seen for a while, the unemployment rate is very low indeed, a.8%, the lowest it has been since 2005. we are also seeing the same thing we have seen for years, the workforce is still growing. that rate is a proportion of an
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increasing workforce, a.8% is low but still 1.6 million people. the workforce has been increasing largely because of immigration from eu largely because of immigration from e u a ccess largely because of immigration from eu access and states but what is interesting in the numbers is it suggests the increase in the workforce is slowing down. whereas a few months ago, i would have been telling you that the workforce had grown by 500,000, now i can tell you it has grown by more like 300,000. the number of people coming from eu access and states, non—uk nationals coming from the rest of the eu was up coming from the rest of the eu was up by coming from the rest of the eu was up by190,000, coming from the rest of the eu was up by 190,000, still coming from the rest of the eu was up by190,000, stillan coming from the rest of the eu was up by 190,000, still an increase but much less so than it was. we have not left the eu yet so why is this? no, we haven't but the office for national statistics does not give reasons for these numbers so you are left in the realms of speculation. you might suggest that perhaps the prospect of brexit might put some eu access and state citizens of coming to the uk. certainly we hear
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anecdotally from some companies that they have got a skills shortage, construction companies, retail trade, the hospitality industry, hotels, have all highlighted skills gaps and we know that those are the industries which rely on immigrant labour. but that is anecdotal evidence. we could use something more solid to try to establish whether migration from the rest of the eu has slowed down since the referendum. thank you forjoining us. shadow home secretary diane abbott says women could be put off entering politics because of abuse suffered by female mp5. she's spoken out about her own experiences after recently receiving a series of threats and insults. it's after brexit secretary david davis appeared to say he would not try to kiss the labour politician because he's "not blind". we can speak now to snp mp anne mclaughlin and labour mp dawn butler, who have both suffered abuse themselves. thank you forjoining us. tell us what views you have suffered. well,
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i have to say, first, i've never suffered the level of abuse that diane abbott has. but yeah, it has been pretty bad, pretty nasty stuff but i have a method of dealing with it. when a deluge of tweets start to come in, usually about the time you say something, you stick your head above the parapet and say something that a group of people won't like, i get someone else to take on my twitter account and stop reading it. you have to be able to do that to protect yourself from it. i get all sorts of advice on how i can improve the way i look, what i should do with my hair and my face, which includes putting a bag over it. and all sorts of nasty, personal stuff which has nothing to do with the job iam which has nothing to do with the job i am trying to do as the mp for glasgow north east. what about you, what have your experiences been?” ee, what have your experiences been?” ou what have your experiences been?” agree, you do suffer sexism and with me also, racism. you get told about what to do, your weight, your
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cleavage, what to wear, what not to wear. people are just completely vile sometimes. and with social media, it makes it worse because people know that they can get directly into your inbox and get to see those things. blocking and muting are great buttons on twitter but it will put a lot of women. it is not the first thing you think about when you are standing for election. you think about what you can do in society, the change you can do in society, the change you can make and you don't really factor into that that you are going to have to consider all of this abuse as you go along. diane abbott says she is worried it is putting women of politics. as it made either of you contemplate your career choice?” change what i do sometimes. we consider our security a lot more. you know, when we are going to
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events, we consider the make—up of that event, etc. i am events, we consider the make—up of that event, etc. lam more events, we consider the make—up of that event, etc. i am more concerned for myself and my own safety. i think my younger self would not have put me. i would have liked to prepare myself for what it would feel like to be discriminated in that way and not just being a woman but a black woman. as i say, you don't really think when you go into parliament that you would have to deal with all of that. inside parliament and outside. inside parliament? have you experienced this inside parliament? yeah, you do. i talked about it before, when, you know, iwas do. i talked about it before, when, you know, i was mistaken for a cleaner, or told not to go into a certain section because you do i think i am? certain section because you do i thinkl am? who certain section because you do i think i am? who says that to you? fellow mps have said that to me. sorry, fellow mp5 thought you were the clean—up? sorry, fellow mp5 thought you were the clean-up? yes, yes, i went into
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the clean-up? yes, yes, i went into the lift and they said the lift was not for cleaners. day, sorry to keep interrupting but i mean, this is extraordinary. more than one mp thought you were a cleaner? tell us what happened. i went into the lift early in the morning and i had my coat on. i went into the lift, and there are separate lifts, one for mps and one for everyone else, because we have to get to committee rooms quickly and somebody said, ..|.m rooms quickly and somebody said, "i'm really sorry but this lift really isn't for cleaners". you know, i was quite stunned and shocked by that and i turned around and said, "well, even if i was a cleaner, you are rude and ignorant, but in fact, i'm not a cleaner, i'm an mp". they just but in fact, i'm not a cleaner, i'm an mp". theyjust turned their back. there have been other cases where i have been going to take my team to have been going to take my team to have lunch and i have been stopped bya have lunch and i have been stopped by a fellow mp asking me where i think i'm going. i said, "we were
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going to have lunch". he said, "this is only for mp5, who are you?" and i said, "who are you?" you can stand up said, "who are you?" you can stand up and have an argument but you have to choose your battles and this is why the whole culture of parliament has to change. it is so important in the environment we are in now, that the environment we are in now, that the prime minister takes a step to saying that this is just u na cce pta ble saying that this is just unacceptable for anybody, for mp5, researchers, visitors, it isjust an u na cce pta ble researchers, visitors, it isjust an unacceptable way to behave in a workplace. you are nodding. dawn is very well able to stand up to people like that but why should she have do? why should she have to stand up to that kind of rudeness, sexism and racism? my concern is about women who might want to go into politics but are put off and i know some of them because i've tried to convince them because i've tried to convince them to go into politics because they would be really good at representing people and fighting for
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their rights but they have seen some of the stuff that i have had and they just can't of the stuff that i have had and theyjust can't bring themselves to do it. they think they could not cope with it. there are two things that need to happen. it needs to stop but until it does, we need to be looking at equipping women and anyone who suffers abuse to deal with it. we need —— ifound ways of dealing with it and i want women to know there are ways of dealing with it. we almost out of time but obviously, good to have ways of dealing with it but what about ways of stopping it? you said you had some ideas. mine are mainly about how to deal with it. i don't have ways to stop it, to be honest, because, you know, social media means anyone can say anything they like. for me, i had to learn how i respond to it. thank you forjoining us. we are out of time. thank you for your company this morning. bbc newsroom life is coming up next. i will see you at the same time
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tomorrow. —— news live. rumour live. good morning. a little bit of sunshine today, starting to feel a bit more like spring and that they will continue through the rest of the week and into the start of next week but there is some cloud around producing some rain. the wettest conditions linked to this zone of white cloud pushing in across south—west england and wales. a few showers clearing from east anglia in the short term so things will brighten up here but it will not last long. the rain from south west wales working its way across the midlands, south east and north west england to meet eastern england by the end of the afternoon. a bit of rain in the south of scotland later and a few showers in northern ireland but the best of the sunshine in northern scotland, 18 degrees... sorry, 13 degrees for one or two, and 13 also possible towards the south—west. the night, further showers across scotland and northern
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ireland with the breeze but temperatures higher than they were last night. cooler for england and wales with clear skies. missed and fog patches across southern areas to start that they would will gradually clear, and sunshine and the odd isolated shower for england and wales. a few showers in northern scotla nd wales. a few showers in northern scotland with a bit of a breeze and temperatures above where they should be for the time of year. this is bbc news, and these are the top stories developing at 11. malaysian authorities arrest a woman after the half—brother of north korean leader kimjong—un was poisoned at kuala lumpur airport. the rate of unemployment remains at an 11 year low — after new figures show the number out of work fell by 7,000 in the three months to december.
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