tv BBC News BBC News February 25, 2017 7:00pm-7:31pm GMT
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this is bbc news. the headlines at seven. labour's deputy leader tom watson rules out another another leadership contest, but says the party must do better. this is not the time for a leadership election, that was settled last year, but we have to do better, we cannot sustain this level of distance from our electorate. three people have been injured in the german city of heidelberg after a man drives a car into a pedestrian area. media organisations react angrily after several, including the bbc, are barred from a press briefing at the white house. also in the next hour... three men appear in court on slavery charges after the discovery of a cannabis factory in wiltshire. police found plants with a street value of around a million pounds after the raid at a disused nuclear bunker on wednesday. and a spirited second—half
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performance at murrayfield earns scotland their first six nations win over wales in ten years —— that and the rest of the day's sporting news at sportsday at seven thirty. good evening and welcome to bbc news. tom watson — labour's deputy leader has said the party must ‘do better‘ at winning over voters but he has said that now is "not the time" to change the leadership. jeremy corbyn has said he will stay on as leader. this comes as a new poll by the sunday mirror says a third of non—labour voters would be more likely to vote labour — if corbyn went. in a moment i'll speak to former mayor of london ken livingstone
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and political observer michael white, but first here's our political correspondent carole walker. jeremy corbyn has made it clear he has no intention of stepping down. he was in stoke yesterday, where labour saw off the challenge from ukip to win the by—election. but he is facing questions about the party's defeat in copeland. the tories were jubilant after seizing the seat which had been in labour's hands since it was created. labour's deputy leader told the scottish conference he was hugely disappointed with the result. ourjob at the next general election is to gain over 100 seats, keeping what we have is supposed to be the easy bit. this is not the time for a leadership election. that issue was settled last year. but we have to do better. we cannot sustain this level of distance from our electorate, from our national supporters.
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so things do have to change. even mr corbyn‘s most outspoken critics at westminster are not contemplating a leadership challenge if they had they fear he'd be contemplating a leadership challenge, they fear he'd be re—elected and return in a stronger position. but many of his mps are deeply concerned that under his leadership there is little prospect of the party regaining support amongst the wider electorate. david miliband, the former foreign secretary who now runs a charity based in new york said he feared labour is losing support at its core base. he said i'm obviously deeply concerned that labour is further from power than at any stage in my lifetime. his supporters sayjeremy corbyn is not the problem. it isn't that one person, it's about as reconnecting with our grassroots, it's about us getting the working class vote back. and of course by defeating ukip instead we've successfully done that.
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so let's share our successes, work, build upon it, and get back into government. but in scotland where labour is struggling to recover, party members are concerned that the scale of the problems. i think the leadership in the uk is partly to blame for that. jeremy corbyn has the absolute support of the labour party, we've got to get on with it. jeremy corbyn has said he is proud to continue as labour. he's not given any indication he'll be changing his approach. carole walker, bbc news. with me is veteran political observer michael white, who now writes for the new european . and l‘m alsojoined by ken livingstone, former mayor of london who joins me via webcam from north west london. thank you for being with us. should mr corbyn go? we reported a new poll from the sunday mirror saying a fair
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—— with a two thirds of nonlabour voters would be happy to vote for the party if jeremy voters would be happy to vote for the party ifjeremy corbyn stood down. we will win the next election on an economic strategy creating jobs for working—class people, reversing all the things we neglected to do while we were in power before. and also having a leader who is honest and you can trust him, a lot of people might disagree with some of his policies, particularly on nuclear power, they recognise he is not someone who came in to politics to get rich, he served his local community, he says what he believes and he comes forward as honest. why didn't labour win the copeland by—election? forward as honest. why didn't labour win the copeland by—election7m forward as honest. why didn't labour win the copeland by-election? it is not justjeremy. 20 win the copeland by-election? it is not just jeremy. 20 years win the copeland by-election? it is notjustjeremy. 20 years ago, labour got almost 60% of the vote there and at the general election it is down to ukip or the snp. we can
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only get them back if we focus on economic policy and i hope that labour mps will put the rubbish of the past behind them and focus on that because that is the only way oui’ that because that is the only way our party will win power. how do see the future for labour? jeremy corbyn going to stay miss i think he probably is. he is very popular in the party. he has got a mandate again. my difficulty with what ken has said, labour is going to win the next election on the promise of jobs, and he must say that an reversing all the things they got wrong the last time and they have an honest leader, he is right about jeremy, he is an honest man by the way things go and that was what got
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him to be a labour activist. i saw his campaign and as soon as i got there i realised he would win, it was like a religious meeting. the opinion polls, a new one today, tories on 41% and labour are on 25 or 26%. no one believes what ken has just said, that labour are going to win. could you hear that? no one believes you! certainly the opinion polls do not reflect that. they don't now but we have three more yea rs don't now but we have three more years to go and theresa may has screwed up the negotiations, we were promised that we could leave the eu but stay in the single market and thatis but stay in the single market and that is clearly not going to happen and that means in 2019, we will see and that means in 2019, we will see a catastrophic collapse ofjobs, it will be very damaging for the economy and people will realise they have been lied to by this government and jeremy has that alternative strategy, we don't need to increase taxes, we just need to make sure
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that google and starbucks pay their fairshare and that google and starbucks pay their fair share and then we can fund massive investment and that is what fuels every growing economy, investment, and our investment is at the worst level from the second world war. michael, ifjeremy the worst level from the second world war. michael, if jeremy corbyn did stand down, can you imagine anyone else who could lead the labour party, who the party itself would lacked, the party members and who would have a chance of winning the election? anyone who you think 01’ the election? anyone who you think or do the election? anyone who you think ordoa the election? anyone who you think or do a betterjob? that is one reason why i agree with ken on this point, i don't see anyone around who could take on jeremy corbyn or succeed him even if he voluntarily stood down. we read a lot in the newspapers and do not believe it, david miliband gave an interesting interview where he did not rule it out but many people watching would say he is damaged goods. i don't agree but i acknowledge the point. when ed balls did something
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interesting the other day, an obnoxious bully at the treasury, we nt obnoxious bully at the treasury, went away and reinvented himself as a popular hero on strictly come dancing, well done you, i thought, a popular hero on strictly come dancing, well done you, ithought, i haven't spoken to him but his friends tell me, it is all over for him in politics. unlike me and ken, at 71, he is only 50 and he thinks it has passed him by and i am horrified. i don't see anyone capable of either taking onjeremy or succeeding him in a convincing way this side of the election which is why i agree with ken. a lot of commentators are saying that labour is heading for a catastrophe at the next election. we don't know what is going to happen, it is not looking good and i don't think they will win, ididn't good and i don't think they will win, i didn't think they were going to win... under ed miliband. i had my doubts about gordon brown as well. ken is right to raise the question of brexit. things may go horribly wrong for the brexit
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negotiations, is theresa may on top of that? i don't know, i will give her the benefit of the doubt but the trouble with his scenario, everywhere across the western world, the reaction to this sort of economic failure, the rise of the robots, the fact that the chinese communist have given up communism and embraced modern industrial production, is to swing to the right, not the left, to the populist right, not the left, to the populist right, we all know the names, including donald trump. is that i worry for the left, that disillusioned people are going to swing to the right, not to the left? they have, that is what happened at the last two elections when we lost under gordon brown and under ed miliband. we have got to bring those voters back, voters need decent good jobs and what we have got, a very low level of unemployment but so many of the jobs are low—wage, low skill, zero hours contracts, that is not the sort of world we want to live in and germany ——jeremy not the sort of world we want to live in and germany —— jeremy has argued for massive investment and to
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start creating good job so that our kids have a betterfuture. we should stick to that and get the message across but it is when we get diverted with all this trivia from the backstabbing, that derails the message. was the relief that labour was able to see off the ukip threat in stoke—on—trent, you may have lasting copeland, but won in stoke—on—trent. lasting copeland, but won in stoke-on-trent. i think that was significant, because clearly ukip has had a huge boost with the brexit vote and we were all very worried about that, copeland i think is quite unique because so many of the people there were in the nuclear industry and germany like myself has a lwa ys industry and germany like myself has always been a critic of that but copeland is a good sign that we have
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not been wiped out by ukip. we have got three years to focus on the economy, if we get that right, we will win. last question for you michael, was that in a way, i'm not saying saving jeremy corbyn, but the fa ct saying saving jeremy corbyn, but the fact that labour won stoke even though the last copeland so badly, that helped him obviously. people like you in the invest far too much ina like you in the invest far too much in a particular event with personality sometimes, like stoke and copeland, if corbyn had lost both, it would have been the end of the world. i am glad that we saw off ukip. ukip voters are often very nice people who does feel fed up. the ukip leadership is a load of rubbish, they cannot hack it and you see similar right—wing populism, i hate to hesitate to link nigel faia raige with donald trump, because he loves it, but they are not good on delivery but they are big on talk and ukip have no solutions, but marine le pen in france, is there. we have a worrying year in europe ahead of us. the french election is
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another story entirely. michael white, good as ever to have you in the studio and thank you forjoining us the studio and thank you forjoining us as well, ken livingstone, via skype. and we'll find out how this story — and many others — are covered in tomorrow's front pages at 10:30 and 11:30pm this evening in the papers — our guestsjoining me tonight are caroline wheeler, the political editor of the sunday express and anne ashworth, assistant editor and property editor at the times. police in the southwestern german city of heidelberg have shot and injured a man who drove his car into pedestrians gathered in one of the city's squares. this amateur video was taken one of the pedestrians is reported to be seriously hurt. of the city's squares. this amateur video was taken in the immediate aftermath of the man's arrest by police. the driver, who was armed with a knife, fled after the impact, but was tracked down by police. police say they don't currently suspect any terrorist motive. the man was seriously injured and he is now being treated in a hospital in heidelberg.
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media organisations have reacted angrily after several, including the bbc, were barred from a press briefing at the white house. the new york times said the move was an insult to democratic ideals. the bbc has asked the white house for clarification. president trump's spokesman, sean spicer, was challenged about the decision. reporter: are cnn and the new york times not in here because you're unhappy with their reporting? why are they not in here? because we had a pool and then we expanded it and we added some folks to come and cover it. it was my decision to expand the pool. reporter: the president said "we're going to do something about it" in reference to these stories that he is saying are false by the new york times, cnn and others. what is he talking about? we're going to aggressively push back. we're just not going to sit back and let false narratives, false stories, inaccurate facts get out there. steve gruber is a talk show host, based in michigan, who's also worked
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for the tv network, nbc. hejoins me now via webcam. thank you for being with us. what do you make of this decision to effectively keep out some of the news organisations like the new york times? thank you for having me. it isa times? thank you for having me. it is a difficult situation for both sides. it doesn't reflect well on either side, donald trump has shown he has a thin skin and sean spicer by saying he expanded the pool by keeping some folks out, not the best pass to go but in fairness to the trump administration, let's go back to his first day in office when the new york times reported that a bunch of nok had been removed from the 0val of nok had been removed from the oval office and a string of stories since then there have been inaccurate and unfair to the white
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house. there have been resignations that were reported and that list of stories goes on and on, easing russian sanctions, but i would say the media, not necessarily the bbc, but there have been, news organisations that were fast and loose with the facts, it is fair to say. isn't this unprecedented? also, it comes after president trump described some of the media as enemies of the people. isn't that quite alarming that an important institution for the protection of the modern democratic state is being described as an enemy of the people? i think it's going too far, as i said just a moment ago. it doesn't reflect well on the media or the white house because obviously both sides are entrenched and both sides have deep—seated feelings about how to deal with each other and maybe it is time for the news media and the trump white has to have some sort of
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a summit, maybe donald —— donald trump should put the media and including those who were banned, but when you look at publications like time magazine implying that martin luther king had been removed from the oval office or cnn getting stories wrong about russian sanctions, the list goes on and on about stories that are inaccurate. you can call them fake news, but in fairness to the white house, this white house has been targeted, unlike the previous administration, which was basically in a love affair with the media. barack 0bama and the media, there was a question ask of him, what has been the most enchanting part of becoming president? i don't find that to be an honest question from the media andi an honest question from the media and i think it is pretty clear, there is bias in the news media. it's not really debatable. surely a president should be able to be
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strong enough to withstand whatever criticism comes his or her weight?|j don't criticism comes his or her weight?” don't disagree with that. i would say that donald trump gets in his own way. today, keith ellison who has been anti—semitic might the become next leader of the democratic party as the dnc chair, that should be the story of the day and instead we are talking about this because donald trump and his administration have made this the headline. donald trump could serve himself better by not getting into his own way. mr trump said that reporters should not be allowed to use anonymous sources. we would not have had the watergate story if you didn't have reporters using anonymous sources! there is no question but that is over the line. having anonymous sources is clearly important but proper sourcing in journalism is also just as important. there have been all of these stories that were false, that
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end up on twitter and get repeated, facebook is the same, anonymous sources are key to watergate and other big stories. the way you do sourcing, the way the bbc and nbc or other networks, clearly the way you do the stories and source the stories is also critical. you are a talk show host, what do you think people out there are making of the way mrtrump is people out there are making of the way mr trump is handling the media? al be frank about that one, the way donald trump manhandles the media, his press conference here could have been called eat the press. those who support him now support a more. this has been a winning strategy for him, go out, take shots at the press, and wins him points and among his core supporters, it is clearly working. if the election were held today, i believe in places like michigan,
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wisconsin, pennsylvania, where he won the election by attracting middle—class and working—class voters, he would win by a wider margin today because he is doing what he said he would do. taking on the media has been a winning strategy for donald trump so far and we need to find out if it is a step too far by keeping people like time magazine, the bbc and cnn and others from attending his press events. good to talk to you. thank you for your time. three men have appeared in court on slavery charges after the discovery of a cannabis factory at a disused nuclear bunker in wiltshire. a police raid found plants worth around a million pounds. andrew plant reports. police raided the bunker on wednesday night acting they said on a tip—off. the rooms were kitted out with equipment to help grow cannabis and places for people to sleep. today in court three men appeared charged with ross winter from bristol,
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45—year—old martin fillery from bridgewater and 27—year—old also from bristol. the three men are also charged with conspiracy to keep a person in slavery or servitude and conspiracy to steal electricity. the nuclear bunker in the wiltshire countryside was built in the 1980s to house government officials in the event of a nuclear attack. it is no longer owned by the ministry of defence and police said the cannabis inside had a street value of around £1 million. none of the three men made an application for bail and all were remanded into custody. they will next appear at salisbury crown court on the 26th of march. a woman has been charged over the death of a three year old boy who was attacked by a dog last summer. dexter neal died at halstead in essex in august. jade dunne, who's 29 is accused of owning a dog dangerously out of control.
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iraqi forces have entered parts of western mosul in what is expected to be an arduous and dangerous battle to remove so called islamic state from iraq's second largest city. wyre davies reports from an advanced iraqi military base where american troops and advisers are proving to be a key part of the mosul offensive. this woman is a victim of islamic state's latest tactic in its desperate bid to avoid defeat in mosul. the 55—year—old mother of seven from the eastern part of the city was hit in a drone strike. her leg shattered. "i was lying on the ground and people were pointing to the sky from where the bomb came", she told me. one of dozens of drone attack victims they've treated at this hospital. this is pretty new for this conflict but also for conflicts all over the world. these mortars can be very effective and the impact on the population really, really brutal. this is video eulogises
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the use of commercially available drones to drop bombs and grenades. an organisation which governs according to brutal feudal codes adapting modern technology to lethal effect. drones are yet another threat for government troops now pursuing fighters from so—called islamic state into the narrow streets of mosul. after days of fierce clashes on the edge of the city. but from a field just to the south, big american guns are helping to sway the battle perhaps decisively in the government's favour. this is an overwhelmingly iraqi military operation but the role of american advisers and troops, so—called boots on the ground, is also critical. us artillery pieces pounding targets in mosul. american commanders are reluctant to die felt too many to divulge too many
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sensitive details, but say us military support will be decisive. the fight in western mosul would be a tough fight for really any army the world. so the iraqi army, the iraqi federal police again will face a tough fight. it will be a lot of house—to—house fighting. the enemy is cornered. they don't have any choice. but to fight. a kurdish reporter, shifa gardi was killed today covering the government advanced into most will. a handful of refugees fled in the opposite direction but there are an estimated 750,000 civilians still trapped inside the besieged city. wyre davies, bbc news, northern iraq. what would be the significance if and when islamic state are driven out altogether from mosul,
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and when islamic state are driven out altogetherfrom mosul, what would be the significance of that?” think the loss of territory for an islamic state is hugely significant, after all, the idea of a centralised caliphate block of land which could become an islamic utopia for muslims globally was absolutely central to its propaganda and to its appeal and losing that is quite a big deal but i don't think it is a fatal blow. after all, you can kill people but you can't kill ideas and the idea off at caliphate will remain and i think it will be fairly easy for islamic state to explain away the loss of territory. the prophet muhammad himself during his lifetime suffered many setbacks. but still it doesn't look good. if you're losing territory and battles it does not look like god is on your side. i think that it will be a dramatic blow and particularly for muslims
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who were sympathetic and living in the west. you might want to uproot yourfamily to the west. you might want to uproot your family to move to an islamic utopia when it is running well and it isa utopia when it is running well and it is a functioning state will, when it is a functioning state will, when it has a taxation system and a welfare state but when it is an out and out war zone, that appeal is certainly lost. that block of land that they were trying to create was linking iraq and what territory they had in syria as well but mosul is a big city, a key city, and if they are driven out of that, they will just have a few bits of land dotted around the place, will they? that is correct. don't forget, you don't need an army of mujahideen centrally located in order to wreak havoc. actually all you need are a few cells with willing suicide bombers and you can still wreak havoc. you raise an important point, because one of the questions we must now consider is what are the knock—on effects ?
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consider is what are the knock—on effects? what happens next? if use grease a group like islamic state in mosul or in iraq generally, you might well start to see it cropped up might well start to see it cropped up elsewhere in the middle east. there are plenty of failed or fragile states dotted around the middle east, sudan, somalia, libya, yemen, where sales of islamic state already exist and fleeing islamic state fighters could well hook up with such sales and top of my list of worries would be yemen. one of the worries about islamic state was the worries about islamic state was the more territory that they had, potentially that was bringing them wealth, or oil wealth, revenue potentially that was bringing them wealth, or oilwealth, revenue that they could use for terrorism and whatever else they wanted to use it for and if they are being denied back, the people opposing them were welcome mat. that is true. i think they can still keep the islamic state project arrive nonetheless and we are already starting to see
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islamic state manage expectations. it switched its advice from saying, come and move to the caliphate, it it isa come and move to the caliphate, it it is a wonderful islamic paradise, to actually saying, you don't have to actually saying, you don't have to move, you can still take part in our project from wherever you are, just launch attacks in your own country. in some ways, more dangerous. thank you very much for being with us. nothing beats a trip to the cinema but a family outing can get quite costly. now a young entrepreneur from croydon has come up with a new idea to fix that, she has converted a bus into a cinema to screen films to children in deprived areas. it doesn't look like a normal bus. and it isn't. this is the movie mobil. any parent knowsjust how
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expensive it is. i live on a housing estate and i thought, wouldn't it be great ifa cinema rocked up. using funding from croydon council and a start—up loan, kerry kitted out an old bus, even down to a popcorn machine. this is the first school group on the bus. it is so exciting. i like eating popcorn. i like watching a video. it is really cool. it is amazing, exactly what i have been waiting for. just incredible, i am overwhelmed seen them jumping around. the aim is to reach children whose families might not be able to afford to take them to the cinema. she plans to fund it by renting the bus to corporate companies orfor private parties. i think it can open up their imagination and inspire them and educate them, nothing can beat the magic of the cinema. it is just one bus for now but kerry has plans to turn it into a fleet so this could be coming to a street near you soon. we can take a look at the weather
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prospects now. good evening. scotland and northern ireland saw some sunshine this afternoon, but for england and wales afternoon, but for england and wales a lot of clout this evening and rain to go with that, moving west to east by the end of the night. some breaks in the cloud in the north—east, maybe frost in north—eastern scotla nd maybe frost in north—eastern scotland but not so elsewhere with the southerly breeze, relatively mild, but coming into the far north—west, wet and windy weather spreading across scotland through the morning and northern ireland as well, into western england and wales, where wind picks up all the while, 50 or 60 mile an hour gusts for a time while, 50 or 60 mile an hour gusts fora time in while, 50 or 60 mile an hour gusts for a time in west wales. it never gets to east anglia or the south—east, temperatures here double figures but turning colderfrom
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