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hifisitfigg hifisitfizg' mflr mucuur mflr be: terrorists. nothing could be more serious and more traumatic really than that. tutti —— to see your loved one killed in a terrorist attack. this is why this was especially difficult and especially challenging for some of the officers dealing with the family. could this attack have been prevented 7 it could only have been prevented by good intelligence and arresting perpetrators before they carried out the attack. once the attack has started, people are going to die, sadly. but, obviously, measures can be taken to reduce the impact of terror attacks. now, whether those measures could actually have reduced the numbers of people killed is an open question. what to think of the response of the
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tunisian police? it could've been better. it is easy in hindsight to better. it is easy in hindsight to be highly critical. as to how they responded. but on the face of it it seemed like a slow response. and a faster response may have helped to save lives. what should be in place at resorts like that, if not to stop an attack happening, to make sure the gunman or gun men are not free to ru na round for that the gunman or gun men are not free to runaround for that period of time. the best measures the hotels can put in place to mitigate the risks when attacks happen are things like cctv, better training for staff, so the response is much faster and more professional. you can table top terrorist incidents, you can train and equip staff to be
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prepared for it. and that can help when an attack actually occurs. but obviously as i stress, those measures would not necessarily in this instance have reduced the number of lives lost. but if you had more armed guards, more armed officers on patrol around the hotels, around the beaches, surely they could have intercepted this man. in resorts and places in the world where the threat is assessed as highest, by the terrorist threat is very high, then obviously armed guards, armed police in the locality can help in terms of the response and will also deter attacks from happening. but it is easy in hindsight to say these things. an attack having happened with some many lives lost. but it is important that hotels do threat and risk assessments to understand the nature of the threat, the local as well as regional and global threat. paul rogers is professor of peace
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studies at bradford university. hejoins me from huddersfield. a lot of emphasis has been placed during the inquest on the foreign and commonwealth office travel advice. tui the travel firm made it clear that that advice was there in their literature on the families of some of those who died said it was not very apparent, it was not up front. and obviously if you're a travel company and following the foreign and commonwealth office advised then to a degree that can absolve you from negligence. my question is, was the advice from the fco correct at the time that these people went on holiday bearing in mind there had been an attack in tunisia a few months before? well the museum attack was four months before and over 20 people have been killed from ten different countries. there had been a botched attempt in
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tunisia a few months earlier so there was a mystery and with hindsight probably the foreign office did not fully appreciate it. but virtually every western country was not really seeing what was almost in front of them and that was that when islamic state came to power so dramatically a year, 18 months before the massacre at sousse, there was a strong western reaction. it began just under a year before sousse, and by the time this is massacre had happened, at least 1000 islamic state supporters were being killed in the air war every month. it was a very big operation and continues to this day and the death toll is probably about 50,000 on the islamic state site now. what is clear is islamic state changed their strategy probably sometime in 2013 and decided it would do something it had not done before, to try to take the war overseas to the country's attacking it. it'd be more
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concerned with its own geographic caliphate which it had been establishing like al-qaeda historic week which was more interested in international attacks. islamic state changed that and most people i think did not see that coming. people now are more aware of it and that we have the high terror alert so to some extent there was probably a failing on the part of the british government but it was a failing ride across the world and more generally there is little awareness in the public eye in the uk that the uk is involved in an air war against islamic state and you've got to expect that this dangerous movement will try to retaliate and that its white david amerson, the overseer of such matters in britain has said there is a high threat level at the moment. it is that context which is being missed and understandably because now we are concerned with the terrible loss of people who had friends and relatives killed in the sousse massacre. so the foreign and commonwealth office essentially missed a trick and you save perhaps
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understandably because everyone did. did the tunisians also miss a trick, should they have been better prepared? probably and their own counter terrorism system was pretty grim at the time. but tunisia had been through incredible changes just four years previously. the regime had fallen in early 2011 and sousse was about four years later. the tunisian themselves during this difficult transition to greater democracy were in a state of disarray and that includes their counterterrorism centres. what added to this was that the actions in libya just across the border, the destroyer of the gaddafi regime againfour destroyer of the gaddafi regime again four years previously, had left the country in chaos. and islamic state took root there, there is evidence on the part of the museum attack that the people involved in that, three of them, they trained at least partly in libya. so the consequences of what happened in libya, though welcomed
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at the time at the end of the gaddafi regime, turned into something far more difficult and in fa ct something far more difficult and in fact now the country is still in great degree of security disarray. so then the lessons, not only for western democracies with tourists wanting to travel, but also some of those countries that wear and have been for long—time popular destinations for british tourists, what lessons do they need to learn? i think there is an overall lesson, we are now 15 years into a war on terror and we now are in this extraordinary position where the leading present britain is saying we have the highest threat level in a0 yea rs. have the highest threat level in a0 years. somehow things are not going right and years. somehow things are not going rightand our years. somehow things are not going right and our approach to the entire wider problem seems to be a miss. notjust wider problem seems to be a miss. not just the uk wider problem seems to be a miss. notjust the uk but i think any country that believes it can destroy a group like al-qaeda or islamic state purely by military means may possibly have got it wrong. i know that is a huge thing to say but we
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had to look seriously at this after 15 years of war, if anything things are actually worse than at any time in several decades. paul rogers, thank you forjoining us. on thursday, northern ireland's voters will go to the polls — for the second time in ten months. the election was triggered when the deputy first minister — sinn fein's martin mcguinness — resigned over a row with the democratic unionist party about a green energy scheme scandal. his resignation led to the collapse of stormont‘s power sharing government. our ireland correspondent, chris buckler, joins me from belfast. i'm standing inside the debate studio for the northern ireland leaders debate tonight. it was really about a botched green energy scheme that brought storm down but this election campaign has gone further than that, the device had been on show between the dup on sinn fein and the readers will be amongst those standing on the stage tonight. let's ta ke those standing on the stage tonight. let's take a look at the campaign
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with alice morrish from the irish news. it has felt divisive and at times on the sectarian. like an election from the old days. it is like an election from the early 19905 like an election from the early 1990s but we knew it was going to be like this because the scandal that brought the entire showdown had landed on the dup door so they were always going to have to deflect and to do that they revert back to type. going back to them and us. the problem is we have a new leader with sinn fein, a clean pair of hands, not a former member of the ira as previous leaders have been. i think the dup find it hard to play too bad, they do not know how to play that with the electorate. so you mention gerry adams, arlene foster trying to reflect other issues. and i think that will continue until we go to the polls on thursday. has that been a good tactic for the dup and hell have sinn fein done this? fundamentally it is a defensive tactic, less than a year ago arlene
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foster was front and centre of the campaign, it was all about vote for arlene foster and her team. campaign, it was all about vote for arlene fosterand herteam. she has not been so prom at this time, and notably did not take any questions from the press of the manifesto launch for the party. but i think they're trying to play to their base, a certain core unionist electorate concerned about the possibility however remote of sinn fein emerging as the biggest party and that might just fein emerging as the biggest party and that mightjust energise those people to forget about the scandals and vote for the dup. we're talking about the dup and sinn fein and not quite so much about the other parties. i think the problem is we only had an opposition for seven months and they did not have enough time to come into their own. what we will see within the unionist vote is perhaps a swing back to the ulster unionist party in protest at the botched green energy scheme. that remains to be seen. asjournalists we all know not to predict
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elections! and while we all believe there will be little change at the top and it will be a sinn fein dup coalition again, anything that happened because we've seen some pretty unpredictable elections. they have got to do a power—sharing deal and that is not going to be easy. have got to do a power—sharing deal and that is not going to be easym will be especially difficult because sinn fein has a red line in terms of going back into the executive and that is the head of arlene foster. they said whatever else happens they will not go back into government while there is this public enquiry going on which could be more than a year to stop so that makes it difficult for them to emerge from the election, we could look at the second election possibly if they cannot be a power—sharing deal or back to direct rule from westminster. who is under the most pressure in this debate tonight?m has to be arlene foster. clearly arlene foster, the person who the accusations have been thrown out. well arlene foster is just one of
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the five leaders who will be involved in that debate here. the studio audience is arriving and of course it will be live on the bbc news channel tonight and also on bbc one northern ireland. mount etna has erupted in eastern sicily. the volcano's latest eruptions began on monday morning. phantoms of lava spewing towards the sky could be seen from far away. quite a few miles away. time now for the weather forecast. still nothing spring—like on the menu for the next few days, quite a wintry flavour to things. we have rain falling at the moment, but wintry showers down to quite low
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levels across the north of scotland overnight. and the odd shower elsewhere into some inland areas. but a lot of dry weather to end the night. temperatures down to freezing in many places. a bright start to the date for many, still some wintry showers across the north of scotland. at the other end of the uk drab across southern counties, with rain pushing in. a few showers further north for the north of england. but the laws of the uk having plenty of fine weather. things turn pretty lively tomorrow night, we are keeping an eye on things, the potentialfor strong wind across the southern part of the uk and possibly some hill snow. hello and welcome to one hundred days. president trump prepares
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for a primetime address to congress and the nation. after his images of carnage, "an optimistic vision" for america has been promised. scrapping obamacare, building up the military and a new tax system are priorities for a president who gives himself an a for achievement, but only a c for communication. donald trump accuses his predecessor of being behind national security lea ks and some of the protests against republicans. i think president obama is behind it, because his people are cerainly behind it, and some of the leaks, possibly, come from that group. also tonight: terror on the beach. at the inquests into the murder of 30 british holiday—makers
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