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this is bbc news. i'm clive myrie. the headlines... white malco relatives of the victims shotin white malco relatives of the victims shot in tunisia are suing the company saying they were unlawfully killed. today the coroner described the police response as shambolic and cowardly. it is in recent reports that i found the police waited, fated, they hid. —— fainted. that is that the goal —— that is unforgivable. the former owner of bhs, sir philip green, is to pay £363 million to plug the gap in the collapsed retailer's pension scheme. britain's most senior child protection police officer, says paedophiles who pose no physical threat to children shouldn't be prosecuted. a man who murdered his ex—girlfriend and her new partner outside the cardiff shop where they worked has been jailed for at least 23 years.
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and us space company spacex has revealed plans to fly two private citizens around the moon. it will be the first manned mission to deep space in more than a0 years. and mount etna, europe's most active volcano has erupted for the first time this year. good evening and welcome to bbc news. the coroner at the inquest into the deaths of 30 british tourists who were killed in a gun attack on a beach in tunisia has described the local security response as at best shambolic, at worst cowardly. he said their delay in arriving at the scene was deliberate
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and singled out one officer who fainted with fear and another who removed his shirt to hide the fact that he was an officer. he ruled the victims of the terror attack at the resort in sousse in 2015 unlawfully killed but stopped short of finding there had been neglect on the part of the tour operator tui. families of some of the victims are now preparing to sue tui themselves. daniela relph was in court. these are the bereaved, for more than a month they've listened to chilling details of multiple murder, many of them witnessed their loved ones being killed. the end of this part of the legal process was an important moment. the inquests were about those who tragically lost their lives, they must never be forgotten and their families hope that no—one else will ever have to suffer the same fate in future. the coroner ruled the 30 british tourists who died that day had been unlawfully killed.
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the inquest has established the facts of what happened at the resort, the chaos and confusion, the relentless shooting. gun fire. holidaymakers fled in panic across the sand, literally running for their lives. the court was told that for 16 minutes the gunman went unchallenged. the police delayed their arrival. one of the marine guard fainted in shock. others hid. the coroner today described the the emergency response as, "at it's best, shambolic. at its worst, cowardly." this animation showed where each person died. in just about every main area of the hotel somebody was killed. the families believe the travel company, tui, was neglectful, but the coroner rejected this saying there were too many what ifs and no single thing that could have prevented the attack. judge nicholas lorraine smith told the families. angie and ray fisher
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were two of the victims, killed alongside each other on the beach. their families still maintain they were failed by tui. if they'd have known the reality and if the tour operater, tui thompson had played their part and actually said, look, there is a risk here and directed them to that, i firmly believe they'd never have gone. the tour company has always denied it was to blame. on that day the world changed. as an industry, we have adapted and we will need to continue to do so. this terrorist incident left its mark on all of us and its impact will always be remembered. many of the families though will now pursue a civil lawsuit against tui. the coroner will look at whether he can make any
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recommendations to help prevent such a massacre ever happening again. as the inquest closed, the coroner told the families that they had shown a quiet dignity of which their loved ones would be proud. daniela relph, bbc news, at the royal courts ofjustice. attending the inquest has been a harrowing experience for the families. those who were in tunisia have had to relive the attack. those who weren't heard eyewitness accounts of the last moments of their loved ones. suzanne evans lost her son, brother and father. cheryl stollery‘s husband was killed in the hotel car park. they've been speaking to our correspondent sarah campbell. people say to me how do i cope. and i say, well, i'm still a mum and i'm thankful for that, that i've still got owen. and owen keeps me alive. the day after this photograph was taken, suzanne's father pat, eldest son joel and her brother
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adrian were killed. only owen, on the left of the picture, survived. he was 16 years old at the time, his grandfather died in his arms. the coroner mentioned your youngest son owen, and his extraordinary courage. how is he coping? he's doing well. he's an inspiration to us all. i often say if owen can get up and go to school and do the things that he's doing, then i haven't got any reason why i can't. so we follow owen, he's fantastic. cheryl stollery not only has the loss of her husband john to cope with, but the memories of that day. john was shot as both ran from the gunman. my thought at the time was, i'm going to die. and where was my son. we were trying to seek refuge, we didn't know where to go, no one was directing us anywhere. it was just a free—for—all.
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it's particularly heartbreaking to think that if the police had been called, if the national guard had got there sooner, then lives could have, or probably would have, been saved. can anything positive come out of what happened onjune 26th 2015? no. we can never bring the people, those 30 people back. what we have to do is learn to live with that, to try and move on. there's always going to be people out there who want to impose their will, their beliefs on others. we need to get better at protecting, and looking at ways in which to safeguard, and we can only do that if all the people involved start communicating and working far more closely in partnership. cheryll stollery ending that
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report by sarah campbell. and we'll find out how this story, and many others, are covered in tomorrow's front pages. at 10:40 this evening in the papers, our guests joining me tonight are the former conservative mp and chairman of bell pottinger political, tim collins and the deputy editor of the guardian, pauljohnson. the billionaire businessman sir philip green has paid £363 million into the pension fund of the collapsed retailer bhs. the business went bust after sir philip sold it for just a pound. he's been sharply criticised and mps called for him to be stripped of his knighthood for having made profits and dividends of more than half a billion pounds while leaving the bhs pension fund with a huge deficit. our business editor simonjack reports. in the summer sir philip green made bhs pensioners a promise. we will sort it, we will find a solution. i want to give an assurance that i'm there to sort this. what he was promising to sort
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was leaving thousands of pensioners short—changed after bhs collapsed, having been sold by sir philip to a retailing novice forjust £1. he has agreed to pay £363 million of his own money to plug a hole in the pension fund, estimated on some measures to be £571 million deep. this settlement isn't enough to give 19,000 pensioners their full entitlement, but it's better than they would have got in the industry rescue fund. the ordinary members of the pension scheme do ok out of this. it's an ok deal for them. they are slightly better off than they would be by staying in the pension protection fund but it's at the margin. that dark stain is all that is left of bhs‘s flagship store on oxford street.
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the debate about the pensions mess left behind, the corporate culture that allow that to happen, and sir philip green's behaviour has raged on. you'll be hoping this put that behind him, others will see today as a significant precedent for the future. great value, good quality... sir philip green was vilified by the public and politicians who saw him as a mascot for corporate greed. today his critic in chief issued this grudging acknowledgement. it's an important milestone in getting justice for pensioners and workers at bhs. the pensioners got a better deal than they would have done. they haven't got everything, there's a long way to go and an enquiry before sir philip green and the bhs book is closed. ann worked at bhs for 42 years. this deal will improve her pension but she thinks it could have been
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sorted out sooner. it's disgusting, he should have done it straightaway. no questions asked, i've been found out, old sort it. this settlement was voluntary but he was being pursued vigorously by regulators who will now stand down. 363 million isjust over 10% of his net worth, a price perhaps worth paying for his reputation and knighthood. whether he can keep either is still not sorted, in his words. let's get more reaction to this story with dave gill, the national officer for usdaw — the union of shop, distributive and allied workers. hejoins us from our salford studio. we heard one of the pensioners who used to work at bhs and thought this deal could have been sorted out $0011. deal could have been sorted out soon. is that your view? absolutely. our members and trade union has been campaigning to get this issue
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sorted. one thing we can't understand and our members can't as we heard from the previous person, is white this saga has been going on so is white this saga has been going on so long. why has it took from his first promise in june so long. why has it took from his first promise injune to get to now, the end of february, to put some kind of money into the pot? come from his words come he will sort this issue. we are pleased he has put some money out of his pocket to sort it. you are saying it is even the right direction but it isn't over. there is a deficit of £571 million. currently we are waiting for more information to come out so oui’ for more information to come out so our pension officer can get into more detail and find out what the offer is and what it looks like members and the british home stores staff. you don't think this is enough for him to keep his knighthood, or do you? we have
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a lwa ys knighthood, or do you? we have always kept the stands all along. discussions need to take place elsewhere. our biggest concern has been for our members and his long serving staff in bhs. that is our priority and we are keeping to the priority and we are keeping to the priority even at this stage. he has come forward with a lot of money and he didn't have to. this was a private company, legally sold. he went through all those checks and balances. he didn't have to do this, did he? it is the right thing to do and when someone of his nature came along and said he will fix it and understands what is happening and won't allow this to happen and he will sort it, it makes that statement and he has to follow it up. he did have to do it and he was going to do. it is a shame how long this saga has dragged on which has caused bhs staff and our members sirius dress in this period. good to
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see you. thank you. a man who murdered his ex—girlfriend and her partner outside the shop where they worked, has been jailed for life. zoe morgan who was 21, and 33—year—old lee simmons were stabbed outside the matalan store in cardiff last september. for weeks beforehand, 21—year—old andrew saunders had searched the internet for the easiest way to kill someone. our wales correspondent sian lloyd has more. andrew saunders arrived at court knowing he faced a life sentence. a man who murdered his ex—girlfriend and her partner outside zoe was described as a bright woman who broughtjoy zoe was described as a bright woman who brought joy to zoe was described as a bright woman who broughtjoy to their lives. lee simmons have met the love of his life in zoe. they're missed every day
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by their families and friend. chris williams watched zoe grow up from a child. she was always very polite, always well dressed. never ever passed without saying, good morning, good afternoon, how are you? taken away at the beginning of her life, totally devastated. the court was told that andrew saunders couldn't cope with the break—up and began stalking his ex—girlfriend, he was also preparing to carry out his savage attack. this cctv shows him at a cardiff supermarket where he bought knives and latex gloves, which he took home in a carrier bag. he was also searching the internet for information on how to carry out a knife attack. in the early hours of the morning, on the 28th september, saunders paced outside the matalan store. he stabbed 33—year—old lee eight times. as zoe tried to pull him off, he turned on her and chased the fashion graduate across the street. she also died from her stab wounds, suffering 32 injuries in total.
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the families of both victims were in court today to hear sentence being passed. as a family, we will never be able to express how we feel inside and the disappointment we feel at the leniency of the sentence that has been passed today. we are all totally heartbroken. for both families no sentence will compensate their loss, their nightmare will last forever. sian lloyd, bbc news, cardiff. our top story... the coroner has ruled the 30 british victims of the tunisian terror attack in 2015 were unlawfully killed. he condemned the response of the country's police describing it as shambolic and cowardly. the former owner of bhs has agreed to pay £363 million to help plug a huge hole in the company's pension scheme. the firm
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went bust last year. britain's most seniorjob protection police officer says paedophiles who pose no physical threat to children shouldn't be prosecuted. some sport news 110w. the top two teams in the championship are playing each other tonight. brighton and hove albion are a point clear of newcastle united they've been playing for about half an hour at the amex stadium where brighton have the best home record in the division. a penalty was tucked away by glenn murray. they are trying to reach the premier league for the first time. there are two other games in the championship this evening, second from bottom blackburn are at home to derby county. another relegation threatened side bristol city —
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who are just two points above the drop zone — are away at aston villa. mark mcghee used to play for newcastle and he also managed brighton. he's been sacked by motherwell today, leaving them 10th in the scottish premiership. he is also the scotland assistant manager, so can fall back on that, but his second spell at fir park came to and after a poor run of results that saw them win just twice in 13 league games, the last straw was the 5—1 defeat at home to dundee on saturday. coach stephen robinson will take temporary charge. there's one match in the scottish prmiership, bottom club hamilton have only won three league matches all season, while second place aberdeen have won 8 of their last nine league games. an upset on the cards there. the city of liverpool could host the games after durban could not carry
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on because of financial problems. liverpool had been looking at the feasibility of hoping that hosting the 2026 games but the south african sports minister said the operating budget could be too much food durban and they won't stage it at any coast. the gold coast have got next yea r‘s coast. the gold coast have got next year's games. andy murray had five weeks off after his early exit at the australian open injanuary. there wasn't too much rustiness in his first match back. he's playing at the dubai open and swept aside the world number 51 malekjaziri in the first round the world number one had a slight wobble, getting broken but took it 6—4 and raced away with the second 6—1. next up is the spaniard guillermo garcia—lopez who actually beat murray in their last meeting five years ago. cricket, and tom curran has being added to england's squad for their three match one day series in the west indies. it's the surrey fast bowler‘s first senior call up after impressive performances for the england lions
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over the winter. curran will provide cover forjake ball who injured his right knee in a warm up game. england's first match is in antigua on friday. former england batsmanjames taylor has spoken to the bbc about the anxiety he faces as he tries to deal with a heart condition that forced him to retire. last year he had an internal defibrillator fitted which literally shocks him if his heart stops... and on one occasion, the device has already saved his life. it has worked and it has kicked in and it kicked in with a real force, and it kicked in with a real force, a lot of voltage going through my body. it shocked me a few yards across the room, probably because i'm small. i don't think a big blow would have gone half as far. that was scary and probably why i have the anxiety i have now and i am scared of pushing myself in some way
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because i know the feeling when it does go off and things aren't quite right. it is a scary feeling and it hurts but it does its job which right. it is a scary feeling and it hurts but it does itsjob which is the most important thing. if something does go wrong, it is there to save my life. still 1-0 to brighton at the top of the championship against newcastle. i'll have more in the next hour. paedophiles who view images of indecent abuse but are thought to pose no direct physical threat to children should not always face a criminal charge according to britain's most senior child protection police officer. simon bailey says the policing system has reached saturation point and that so called lower level offenders should be offered rehabilitation. he said he recognised the suggestion would horrify many. our home editor mark easton has more. saying the unsayable. the chief co nsta ble saying the unsayable. the chief constable who believes paedophiles who view images of child sexual
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abuse should not necessarily be prosecuted. simon bailey argues with resources stretched those deemed to prove a no risk —— low risk my suburbia rested, monitored and rehabilitated rather than ta ken suburbia rested, monitored and rehabilitated rather than taken to court. wheel arresting 400 men every month for viewing indecent images of children. we are safeguarding 500 children. we are safeguarding 500 children every month but we are dealing with the tip of the iceberg. the public will say it is not robust enough. if this is the tip of the iceberg, let's get the iceberg.|j don't have the resources. i have a proposal that manages the risk but it is targeted. police jeeps new anti—historical policies threaten to overwhelm them. 70,000 investigations in a single year and an estimated policing cost of £1 billion. even thenjust an estimated policing cost of £1 billion. even then just touching the surface with analysis suggesting 500,000 people in england and wells
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have illegally viewed images of child sexual abuse. —— wales. how can you say someone child sexual abuse. —— wales. how can you say someone at home looking up can you say someone at home looking up file pictures of child abuse is not going to go out and abuse a child? i can't be sure. arrest them. we are arresting them. 400 a month is more than any law enforcement agency in the world. i have to balance our resources against the whole of the risk. police in sussex already visit some individuals found to be viewing online images of child abuse and warned them they face criminal action if they continue. some survivors say it is outrageous to suggest offences are decriminalised. it was an unhelpful and dangerous thing to say that people who abuse children or human view images and pay others to abuse children may escape justice. the home office has distanced itself
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from his remarks saying strong criminal justice from his remarks saying strong criminaljustice centres remain the response when terrible crimes like viewing images of child sexual abuse online committed. britain is beginning to realise how huge problem the sexual abuse of children has been and continues to be. now even those charged with protecting children admit we cannot simply arrest our way to a solution. we can speak to marilyn hawes ceo and founder of enough abuse uk, a child protection consultancy focusing on all elements of sexual child abuse. she's in our studio in central london. and in our salford studio is sir peter fahy, former chief constable of greater manchester police. thanks for being with us. if i could start first of all with you, marilyn. simon bailey is saying this isa marilyn. simon bailey is saying this is a proposal that manages the risk. is that good enough eu? know. from
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the police aspect, i have every sympathy with them. they are stretched, overworked and need more recent losses, more funding and that is down to theresa may and the government. the police can do a splendid job rather than scratching it like they are at the moment saying there is no evidence and it doesn't meet our thresholds. to minimise the reality of this crime, to fit the lack of resources is dangerous and irresponsible and it is not acceptable. you cannot say that somebody looking at what he thinks is low images isn't going across the road to look at category across the road to look at category a images. he does say it is possible to assess whether someone knows images will go into contact abuse. whether they would be able to pose a threat. what is he supposed to do to stop if you have 400 people, more
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than 400 men being arrested every single day and, i apologise, every month, they could be safeguarding of the month. it isn't making children safe. it goes right down to education which is what we do. you try and get parents to one of the evenings we do and grooming online and off—line, you won't see them. if this is the maths curriculum, you would see them. it is everybody‘s responsibility. if you are going to put your children's phase —— faces on facebook, if your school puts children full face with their gym kit on, with their swimming gear on because it gets backsides on seats, then i'm sorry, you are responsible. these people will take those images, cut and paste them, turn them into abuse images. if your children now
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are putting their dancing videos on musicality, you need your brain testing because people are taking those images and doleful traitor by paedophiles. the internet is the playground for paedophiles and if this was his child, what would he want? iam this was his child, what would he want? i am the mother of three sexually abused children. don't tell me how it feels. peter connelly you heard some of that. simon bailey said it is completely wrong. there is cuts in the crown prosecution service and the core budget. if there isjust service and the core budget. if there is just emphasis service and the core budget. if there isjust emphasis on this particular offence of viewing indecent images, there are other serious offenders, groomers, people involved in child exploitation who are not getting the same level of focus. what simon is calling for is the ability of the police to concentrate on the most dangerous
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offenders and try and develop ways offenders and try and develop ways of dealing with these other people. if the police find that you have got indecent images of children and have been viewing them, you will still get arrested, your house will be searched. if you have children, they will be taken away from you and you may lose yourjob, your partner may lose the job because they will have to declare they are living with a sex offender. you will be a registered sex offender which will have consequences on your freedom. you must get across that it isn't giving people an easy chance. just arresting people, even if there was prison places, it wouldn't solve this problem. you understand that every time a victim is viewed, that is abuse and those men who are looking at these images and potentially paying for those images at times, they are helping to
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perpetrate abuse. you understand that? there are more serious offenders out there that perhaps are able to track —— hide their tracks better, taking that the next phase of raping children, grooming them, enticing their feet in certain locations. we can take our eye off the ball. the biggest child abuse that goes on is within families and people known to the children. simon is saying that is the danger. we concentrate too much on the issue of the internet and this dreadful indecent images that create more victims. the police aren't concentrating on the other things. there is also the emphasis on things like other forms of crime and see if the police can see resources from mats. marilyn, there aren't resources to deal with the problems the police have. there has to be
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priorities and there is no question about that. in that regard, this is raising an interesting topic of discussion that has to be debated. it has to be funded. but if the money is unclear what do you do? they will find it for other reasons. you are talking about the well—being of children in this country. a safe and well adjusted society. abuse in this society is rife and i feel so sorry for the police because they are not supported in the way they should be. it isjust are not supported in the way they should be. it is just not acceptable. you cannot call anyone a low risk because you don't know what the trigger will be tomorrow. i have spent last month in a paedophile prisons speaking to paedophiles. not
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many people who have had children abused would want to do that but i see that as part of myjob to do a betterjob for prevention. prevention is never spoken about in real terms and who will be culpable for this when it goes wrong?|j real terms and who will be culpable for this when it goes wrong? i am going to have to come in but thanks to you both forjoining us. kindly look at the weather. still nothing particularly springlike but a win today flavour to things. most of that falling out of the sky is rain. wintry showers at low levels across the north of scotla nd at low levels across the north of scotland overnight so the risk of ice and the odd shower elsewhere are coming off the sea. lots of dry weather to end the night and a cold one with the temperature down close to freezing. a bright and crisp start to the day with wintry showers across the north and that the other end of the uk it turns damp and grab
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across southern counties, the rain pushing into south wales. a few showers further north but the northern half of the uk having plenty of fine weather. shelley and once the rain sets are not feeling all that warm. things turning likely tomorrow night and we are keeping an eye on it with various strong winds possible. you mixture of rain and some snow as well. hello, this is bbc news. the top stories just after 8:30 p.m.. the inquests into the deaths of 30 british tourists, killed in a terror attack on a beach in tunisia in 2015, have found they were unlawfully killed. the coroner added that the police response to the attack was "at best shambolic, and at worst cowardly". the former owner of the bhs chain of stores, sir philip green, has agreed to pay £363 million to plug a gap in the company's pension scheme. the firm went bust last year.
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the uk's most senior police officer, dealing with child sex abuse, says low risk paedophiles should be given counselling and helped to rehabilitate, rather than face prosecution. a 20—year—old man who murdered his ex—girlfriend and her new partner outside a matalan store in cardiff last year, has been jailed for life. andrew saunders must serve a minimum of 23 years. let's get more now on our top story — the verdicts delivered today in the inquests of the 30 british people killed in a gun attack on a beach in tunisia. the authorities at the resort in sousse is now ‘100 per cent safe.‘ new security measures are in place —— but the foreign office is still advising against all non—essential travel to tunisia. and british visitor numbers have dropped by more than 90 per cent. our middle east correspondent orla guerin reports from sousse. security has been stepped up since
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the attack. the roundabout is just a few minutes from the hotel where the killings took place. you can see there is a police vehicle in possession and heavily armed officers. that is a permanent checkpoint. officers are stopping vehicles from time to time. they ask for driver id. the authorities want to send a message that tunisia is being vigilant and it is safer to lists. —— safe for tourists. we are at the scene of the attack and it was here at the 5—star hotel that the two lists were gunned down. a lot of renovation work is going down and they are upgrading the security. we are told that this time it will
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be at the maximum level. this is pa rt be at the maximum level. this is part of the upgrade waiting to be unpacked. x—ray equipment. luggage will be scanned on the way in and guests will pass through metal detectors, but inside it is eerily empty. the furniture still covered in plastic. the gunman was able to make his way from the beach into the whole tale hunting for more victims. there will now be increased security but on the day of the attack that we re but on the day of the attack that were armed guards present who could have intervened but didn't. other police units nearby deliberately delayed their arrival according to the tunisian judge. almost two years on the authorities have many questions to answer about the failure to halt the attack. here to talk more about tunisian security is geoff porter. he is the head of the north africa risk consulting political and security risk firm, and joins me live via webcam from new york. thanks for being with us. first of
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all, as the river tees are now saying this is 100% safe. is this ever possible? i actually picked up on that in your opening statement and it was one of the things that immediately let to mind. there is no way to guarantee that any facility, especially those in tunisia and bordering libya which is embroiled ina bordering libya which is embroiled in a civil war, are 100% safe. they can take measures to mitigate the risk and measures which would limit the impact of a terrorist event if it were to unfold but no place is 100% safe. given the it were to unfold but no place is 10096 safe. given the attacks in belgium recently, the attacks in paris, the tunisian ambassador to the united kingdom says that tunisia has been treated unfairly and it has been suggested they are not in control and don't know what they are doing, and yet they have fallen prey
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to the same kind of attack that has happened in other places, do you think that is fair? yes and no. when the attack took place, tunisia was at the bottom of a very steep learning curve. it had never really dealt with the terrorist threat before. one incident at a museum several months before but one data point is not a trend and i think they were beginning to start to figure out how to do better counterterrorism, and as the opening segment suggested, the security service's response was lacking. they have started to make improvements. ardently at the same level that france is or belgium or the uk or the united states? they are not what they are getting closer. tunisia is right on the edge of that very volatile area in the middle east. it
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is going to be difficult for holiday—makers around the world to say, maybe it makes sense to go their? the foreign office advice is that only essential travel should warrant somebody going? correct. this is a very fortunate circumstance for tunisia and its economy but the fact it is suffering because of terrorism... means that people shouldn't be ignorant of the risks people face in tunisia. it borders libya which is embroiled in a civil war and tunisia constitutes one of the largest nationalities of foreign fighters who travel to fight with islamic state. a real threat at the moment. to brush aside that threat in order to try to bolster the tunisian economy is foolhardy.
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thanks very much forjoining us. the line dropped out a few times but we got very much the gist of what you're. thank you. on thursday, northern ireland's voters will go to the polls — for the second time in ten months. the election was triggered when the deputy first minister — sinn fein's martin mcguinness — resigned over a row with the democratic unionist party about a green energy scheme scandal. his resignation led to the collapse of stormont‘s power sharing government. our ireland correspondent, chris buckler, joins me from belfast. that is going to be a leader in this debate tonight. the final studio rehearsals taking place behind me and behind these podiums will be the leaders of the five main parties, taking questions from this place gathered in the bbc studios in belfast. i am getting an idea of what some of the concerns will be. power—sharing collapsed. in reality,
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who should take the blame? the blame lies solely on the dup. the allegations of corruption and in the end martin mcguinness had to execute the office of deputy first minister and he had to do what he had to do. it isa and he had to do what he had to do. it is a botched green energy scheme but i suspect you have different opinions? i would say things went wrong with the scheme but we should wait until all the enquiry is finished. it had a potential projected cost of hundreds of millions of pounds. i haven't read the report yet and when i do read the report yet and when i do read the report yet and when i do read the report then i will be able to make an informed view of actually what happened with the scheme and when the things went wrong, but what concerns when the things went wrong, but what concerns me is why would people who bought into the scheme now want to ta ke bought into the scheme now want to take a judiciary thing worth it to say that their names shouldn't be printed. if you haven't done
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anything wrong then you shouldn't fear of these things. that is about one thing that led to stormont collapsing but it has been quite a sectarian election and the divisions have been strong? the dup now they have been strong? the dup now they have been strong? the dup now they have been major scandals and that will affect them. it is evident with arlene foster, every second word has been sinn fein and gerry adams and with michele o'neil in the post they have lost the bogeyman from the past. the new sinn fein leader, do you think that is the new face of sinn fein? she doesn't seem to have that same baggage as perhaps martin mcguinness gerry adams has. the paramilitary past. do you see it as something different?” paramilitary past. do you see it as something different? i see it as the same old thing going on and on and what we really need is the respect of both sections of the community and all the other people in the community and when we get that
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respect and that means truly leaving aside all bitterness and hatred, and actually looking at what can build together. the thing is if you look at this election campaign we are looking at leading bitterness and divisiveness behind, but if anything i think many people will feel it has come to the fore. it is still very better and a lot of people say it will go back to the same old, same old. iam will go back to the same old, same old. i am looking to see change and people are looking to see sdlp, ulster unionist party on. possibly this is the chance sinn fein has delayed the executive. from 1998 this has been a purely unionist led executive and this could be the chance had a different type of leadership. and they have been talking about the potentially sinn fein first minister but some think thatis fein first minister but some think that is scaremongering? we don't need to scaremonger to get votes and we stand on our record and some may say it wasn't a good record but i happen to think it is. we don't need
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to scaremonger and banners for saying from 1998, i think several times we thought there was going to bea times we thought there was going to be a collapse at stormont but with peter robinson and doctor ian paisley and arlene foster working to hold the whole thing together, and though all of a sudden it doesn't suit, saw up in the air again. as somebody perhaps aside from this battle, do you think the leaders are under pressure tonight? a lot of people wanting the lancers were real issues. who is under pressure? arlene foster is definitely under pressure, obvious from all the scandals. i am getting one nodding head and one shaking head. you get a sense of the divisions within the actual audience never mind the leaders. they will be in front of the audience in a short period of time and it will be live from 9pm on bbc news. that is coming up in about
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15 minutes time. some breaking news coming in from the north west. a fire ina coming in from the north west. a fire in a road tunnel has led to manchester airport's runways being closed causing delays. it broke out on wilmslow road beneath the runway one at about 6pm this evening and photographs show plumes of smoke billowing out. an airport spokeswoman said all vehicles are now out of the tunnel. police are currently assessing the situation and runway one is closed and will stay closed for some time. some flights have had to be diverted with a few cancellations and passengers are advised to check the status of their flight. are advised to check the status of theirflight. a are advised to check the status of their flight. a fire are advised to check the status of theirflight. a fire in are advised to check the status of their flight. a fire in a are advised to check the status of theirflight. a fire in a road tunnel at manchester airport has closed one of the runways causing
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delays to some flights. donald trump is due to address a joint session of congress later tonight. he's expected to lay out some detail on his proposed economic stimulus. but ahead of the event, the president has blamed his predecessor, ba rack obama, for anti—republican protests. and in an unusual twist, he's graded himself on his performance. he gave himself an a for achievement but only a c for getting his message across. joining me now to discuss the story is ben schreckinger, a reporter at the us news agency politico. no surprise he would give himself and. what would you give him? that is not for me to say. why not? i am here to describe the actions of the administration. it is quite telling
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that he has conceded even that he would only get himself a c+ for message. the clear perception in washington and around much of the country is this has been a bumbling start, chaotic, and one that has left president from frustrated and feeling like he is not getting president for what he feels he has accomplished. his communications staff are not getting his message out the way he would like it. what would you expect him to put forward than concrete policy terms? in some ways it is going to be a victory lap. policy moves he has already spoken about like withdrawing from the transpacific partnership. he will talk about his vision for health care reform. he will talk about his trillion dollar infrastructure plan and he is going to talk about raising military
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spending and what republican lawmakers want to hear about is how he plans to pay for these things. that is the interesting thing. the republicans want to balance the budget and he is talking about stimulus packages and getting millions more to the military. how was that going to work? you could see some messy coalitions forming around these issues. some democrats, in fact many of them, are likely to sport many of his plans to increase infrastructure spending, while the republican party splits among those more loyal to donald trump and those loyal to their fiscal conservatism. issues like obamaca re, loyal to their fiscal conservatism. issues like obamacare, we may see interesting coalitions because it is not known exactly what changes he will propose. there could be some interesting deal—making going down.
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it is clear he doesn't necessarily have the full support of the republican party for some of these projects? that is right and i think republicans are by and large very hesitant to criticise president from. they understand he is popular with the base and they see what has happened to several republicans who have seen popularity plummet but privately many are worried, especially on some fiscal measures about how they will get paid for. the suggestion that president obama, the man he replaced, is responsible for some of the demonstrations against his administration, is that getting any traction with anybody? maybe with alex jones, getting any traction with anybody? maybe with alexjones, a well—known conspiracy theorist. it was a bizarre question to ask on the part of fox news and bizarre for donald trump to go along with that. i am
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not aware of any evidence that barack obama is involved in any of these protests. we will leave it, it is good to see you, thanks for joining us. millions of british eggs are temporarily to lose their free range status. farmers have been forced to keep their hens indoors since december to limit the spread of bird flu and eu rules say that eggs from hens that have been inside for 12 successive weeks cannot be labelled as free range. our business correspondent emma simpson reports. we eat more than 10 million free—range eggs a day, they're now being relabelled with stickers like this. these free—range hens should be roaming outside, but they've been kept indoors, like all hens since december. restrictions are being scaled back today, but the owner of these birds says his hens are staying in, even though it means they'll lose their free—range status.
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we can't allow our hens to go out. we would have to net an area the size of 16 football pitches, it's just totally impractical. we've lost the free—range status, but this is an eu technicality. we believe they're free—range. they're the same great egg, they taste the same. the industry has now decided that it's simpler and fairer to relabel all commercial boxes of free—range eggs whether the hens that laid them have remained inside or not. it's an unprecedented step. are you making pancakes today? yes. i have already this morning. down the road, in bury st edmunds, shoppers seemed sympathetic. as long as then, going forward, once the limit is over, they're back out, then that should be fine. as long as they're nice and warm and toasty and they're happy hens, i don't mind. i would prefer the hens outside, but an egg's an egg. some shops have already been keeping customers informed. these stickers should only be temporary.
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the hope is, that by the end of april, all our free—range eggs will have their full status back. emma simpson, bbc news, suffolk. for those of you thinking about your next holiday, what about this? the private rocket company spacex has announced that two private citizens have paid to be sent around the moon. the mission is planned for late 2018. elon musk, the billionaire behind the company, said the two people had already paid a significant deposit. joining me now from somerset is libby jackson. she is the human spaceflight and microgravity programme manager at the uk space agency. good to see you. do you think these people will be going up, 2018?” think spacex have set themselves a
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very ambitious target but i have no doubt they think they can achieve it, but they have made a public achievement and i expect them to carry that through. the rocket that is taking them up has only been up twice? the fault can which is the rocket that will gore hasn't flown at all. spacex are flying a smaller version and have had some issues with that, a couple exploded. they have had test—firing on the ground and it is due to make its first flight and it is due to make its first flight later this year and the same is true for the capital. that has also not flown. the dragon spacecraft has been going to the international space station and back but that has been undermined so they have to make some modifications to that. still a lot of work to be done? indeed. i have no doubt spacex are working hard on that and by making this announcement they are
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committed to it and i am confident they can achieve it. it will cost a lot of money but the you think it is the kind of thing that could take off? space tourism and commercial space flights have been around for quite some time, since 2004. we saw company get a reusable spacecraft into space and back again. that has been incubating and that is a lot of companies out there offering sub orbitalflights. i companies out there offering sub orbital flights. i think we will see commercial space flight happen and the uk is taking steps to put a spaceport in this country by 2020. the brits are getting involved, are? we hope so. we have said we want to get a significant share of it. we are offering grants to companies to assist in that development. we hope to see a spaceport opening very soon
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so that is legislation going through the commons in the coming weeks. but presumably it can't just the commons in the coming weeks. but presumably it can'tjust be anybody going up, it has to be somebody who has done the training and can handle the pressure of going up that far? absolutely. anybody who pays for these will pay significant sums of money, they will still undergo significant training, and for the crew going to the moon, elon musk has suggested they will call in an autopilot, possibly not taking any professional last in knots with them, which i would find surprising. if anything goes wrong you have no easy way back. anybody would have to train to deal with things like emergencies such as fire and depressurisation. there would be a
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lot of training to go to the men or lower orbit. i love the way you talk about this as it is so everyday. if there is a fire at would take a while to get back! we will see what happens, forjoining while to get back! we will see what happens, for joining us. now, these three gold necklaces and a bracelet, found in a staffordshire field — are thought to be the oldest ever found in britain — 2,500 years old. they were found by two metal detector enthusiasts who'd become bored with the hobby and had given it up for 20 years. but last year they decided to have another go — and struck gold — as sima kotecha reports. buried treasure, discovered in the fields of staffordshire. one bracelet and three necklaces, believed to be 2,500 years old. the items were probably worn by wealthy, powerful women, it's not clear though why they were buried. possibly some of these are hoards or things that people wanted to come back and get later, but also its possible these
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were actually offerings to the gods that nobody was ever intending to come back for. it was kind of like a normal sunday morning for us. i felt, a litle bit off it myself, we were in two minds whether to come out or not. these two friends are responsible for the discovery. 20 years ago, they searched for treasure, but found nothing. then, after taking up the hobby again, they struck gold. i knew what it was straightaway because, obviously, i'd seen them in pictures in books and magazines and and stuff. so i said, "well, you know, where did you find that?" because my legs were going, my heart was going and my head was racing. he said, "up top of the hill." i said, well, we need, you know, to have a look at the area and then probably, you know, do some more sweeps of the area because i hear stories whereby, you know, where there's one, there could be some more buried. well, it was just before christmas when the two men were walking along here with their metal detectors and they found the treasure, just behind me, over there. a couple of days ago, they came back again and they found one of the missing pieces. today, the items were officially declared as treasure. the collection is expected to be worth hundreds of thousands
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of pounds and the men will split the proceeds with the landowner if the items are sold. they haven't said exactly how much it would fetch or what's going to happen, you know, money wise. we just look at it as a bonus, really. that, you know, we've come out on a sunday morning for four hours and we found something special and anything after that really is a bonus. bonus. whatever we get. yeah. sima kotecha, bbc news, staffordshire. europe's most active volcano has erupted for the first time this year, sending a tower of bright lava into the sky. mount etna, on the italian island of sicily, has been largely dormant for the past two years. authorities have reported no danger to the nearby towns and there has been no disruption to air traffic. its last major eruption was in 1992. time for a look at all the weather.
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we could do with a volcanic eruption but it is chilly out there. nothing particularly springlike on the menu. some showers clearing away. wintry showers will set an across the north of scotland. for the rest of us, a quiet night, a few showers dotted around but it will be clear and cold with the temperature getting close to freezing. bright and crisp start to freezing. bright and crisp start to wednesday morning, make the most of the sunshine across the south but it is not going to last. rain pushing into southern counties and parts of wales, a drab end to the day. best of the sunshine for the north. not one with the temperature, 5-6 north. not one with the temperature, 5—6 in the north, not much higher than that further south, then get slightly tomorrow evening and at night with strengthening winds
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seeing gales in some places and some wet weather and the possibility of snow in the hill is so the possibility of some destruction, we will keep you posted. you are watching bbc news. any moment we will be going to a special debate in the run—up to the elections for the northern ireland assembly. a coroner has ruled that the 30 british victims of the tunisian terror attack were unlawfully killed and he also described the performance of the country's police as at best shambolic and at worst cowardly. philip green has paid to pay £360 million to plug a huge hole in the company's pensions. the firm went bust last year. and britain's senior police child protection officer says paedophiles that pose no physical risk to children shouldn't be prosecuted, so let's go to belfast
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and that debate in the run—up to the stormont elections. the parties are looking for your vote in the assembly election. welcome to the northern ireland leaders' debate. applause good evening. little did we think we would be back here so soon but this second election has been brought

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