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this is bbc news. the headlines at 7:00pm. the brexit secretary urges mps to back the bill for exiting the eu, to pave the way for the triggering of article 50. what we can't have is either house of parliament reversing the decision of the british people. the iraqi army continues to make gains against so—called islamic state. we've heard three car bombs going on in the distance, we've also had a lot incoming mortar fire, you can hear now the sounds of battle. following a night of violence in rotterdam, turkey's president warns the netherlands it will "pay the price" for expelling his foreign minister. at least 48 people have been killed in a landslide at a vast rubbish dump in ethiopia. commuters in the north and south
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could face delays tomorrow as three rail companies go on strike over the role of conductors. also, joni sledge dies at the age of 60. music: "we are family" by sister sledge. one of four sisters who made up the 70s disco group, sister sledge, she passed away at her home in arizona yesterday. good evening and welcome to bbc news. labour says it will fight for changes to the brexit bill when it comes back to the house of commons tomorrow. the brexit secretary david davis has called on mps to reject lords amendments — and to give the prime minister a "free hand" in negotiations with the european union. if the bill is passed — theresa may could trigger the formal process of brexit as early as tuesday. vicki young, our chief political correspondent, reports.
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theresa may wants to get on with it. for months she has vowed to kick—start brexit talks by the end of march. but some here in parliament are fighting to get safeguards written into law before the negotiations begin. today, the brexit secretary tried to reassure mps and peers they would get a vote on the prime minister's final deal with the eu. but... what we can't have is either house of parliament reversing the decision of the british people. they haven't got a veto on it. what does it mean otherwise? people talk about meaningful votes. what does it mean? peers have defeated the government twice, and labour's standing firm. what we say to the prime minister, and i wrote to her on friday, reflect on what the house of lords has said by majorities of nearly 100. they have sent back two important issues. this issue of the eu nationals, reflect on it. don't have this obsession
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with getting article 50 triggered this week. the two line brexit bill is still making its way through parliament. last week, the house of lords made their changes. the government will try to overturn these in the commons tomorrow. if they succeed, the bill returns to the lords almost immediately, and if they give way, the final stage of royal assent could be completed tomorrow night. so the government has parliamentary hurdles to get over this week, but ministers seem confident that theresa may will be able to stick to her original plan. formally telling the rest of the eu, that the uk is ready to start negotiating its exit, and attention is turning to exactly what kind of deal, if any, the uk can get. the prime minister has said publicly that no deal for the uk is better than a bad deal, but that would mean tariffs on exports under world trade organisation rules. my fear is that what this is really about, is us deliberately,
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not the prime minister, but others deliberately ensuring that we have no deal. and no deal pretty soon, and in that event, wejump off the cliff on to wto tariffs and nobody in this country, the people don't have a say. mr davis admits the government is preparing a contingency plan in case there is no deal, but he doesn't think it is remotely likely. it will be tough. there will be tough points in this negotiation, but it is in everybody‘s interest that we get a good outcome. parliament's debate about the bill isn't over, but after months of talking about the talk, formal negotiations will soon be under way. and vicki's with me now. what are the chances of the rebellion continuing in parliament this week? it all starts in the
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commons again tomorrow. they have to look at what the lords have said. there was an overwhelming defeat for the government twice. they will look at it and debated again, as we heard from ministers they are urging mps to reverse those changes. the question in the commons is how many conservative mps are willing to rebel against their government. the first time round there weren't many. they could be more but i don't think they've got the numbers to overturn it. they will be looking for verbal assurances from the government. if overturned it goes back up the corridor to the house of lords, they look at it again. the question is do labour continue to try and get those changes back in again? so far they've said they aren't going to block or frustrate brexit. they don't want to delay this in any way. the liberal democrats have said they will continue to try to defeat the government. crossbenchers, the independent peers, could be the key. they don't like it when the elected chamber goes the other way. they
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tend to back down and that could be the scenario tomorrow. then you get the scenario tomorrow. then you get the royal assent potentially pretty quickly. how quickly might article 50 be triggered? we aren't yet at the end of march. it's easy to get fixated on the date. i think the date in theresa may's mind is, she's said she wants to do this by the end of march, and she really is still on track to do that. she doesn't want to be seen to be pushed off what she said she was going to do, pushed off that promise. it could be as early as this week. i think next week is more problematic. the eu will be gathering in rome, not british ministers but the others, celebrating the anniversary of the treaty of rome. i think it's unlikely the uk would try to spoil that party. it could be the week after that. either way, by that party. it could be the week afterthat. eitherway, by the that party. it could be the week after that. either way, by the end of march she will be sending that formal letter to brussels, and that eventually after all this talking
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sta rts eventually after all this talking starts to get the formal negotiations underway. thank you. joining me via web—cam is professor kenneth armstrong, director of the centre for european legal studies at the university of cambridge. plenty of you to be thinking about this week, how do you think it will pan out in parliament? it will be interesting to see what happens when it comes back to the commons tomorrow, and whether the lords amendments will be removed, and then in the next session of ping—pong, whether the lords will then back down. clearly the government is trying to get a bill through without any amendments. it may be that there are some concessions made at the dispatch box to say that ministers will offer a vote, but without it being in the bill itself. the government wants a bill that is as simple as possible. from a legal point of view how important is it that these amendments stick?”
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think, they are very much on the citizenship side of things. the important issues many people have been raising about the uk, setting out a clear signal that it intends to do the right thing by eu nationals in the uk, and that that was also important to get the negotiations started on a good footing. as for parliament's roll itself, at the end of the process, theissueis itself, at the end of the process, the issue is up parliament itself to decide what process it once. if parliament can put in place a mechanism, that is what they will have decided in the end. some up how complex, legally, triggering article 50 and all of its ramifications are going to be, considering how wedded to european law we are at the moment. it's a really important question. i think the article 50
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process itself, the eu's institutions are made preparations for the process to start. for the uk's perspective, the issues that will have to happen simultaneously at national level and european level, conducting eu level negotiations on what kind of framework deal, what kind of trade deal etc will be in place. at the same time, domestically, having to legislate on issues of immigration, on the great repeal bill which aims to keep the uk law the same on brexit day as it was the day before. the major problem there is it isn't enough to keep the law the same. the law has to be administered by somebody. it's that administrative complexity that has been fastly underestimated. indeed. where will it leave us when it comes to jurisdiction by the european court ofjustice? jurisdiction by the european court of justice? if we've jurisdiction by the european court ofjustice? if we've taken european law into british law, but surely the
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jurisdiction is still provided by luxembourg? it will then be for our own courts to interpret those laws, they will have a european origin. it's not just they will have a european origin. it's notjust the issue of the courts. very few things end up in litigation. 0ftentimes we have to have administrative structures but deal with dispute resolution. for example what happens if a company has a license in the uk under eu law to conduct business elsewhere in europe and finds it can no longer carry out that business. normally it would be an administrative structure that would solve that problem. taking the uk outside of the eu without any deal in place, what that cooperation looks like going forward will be massively disruptive for uk business. plenty for you to be
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thinking about in the next couple of yea rs. thinking about in the next couple of years. thank you. and we'll find out how this story — and many others — are covered in tomorrow's front pages at 10:30pm and 11:30pm this evening in the papers. we arejoined by we are joined by esther mcveigh, robert fox. turkey's president has warned the netherlands it'll pay the price — after two of his ministers were prevented from attending a rally in rotterdam. dutch police used water cannon to disperse hundreds of turkish protesters there. mr erdogan has again compared the dutch to nazis today, and called the netherlands a "ba na na republic". its prime minister mark rutte has demanded an apology. james robbins reports. not our usual image of the netherlands. this was the wound the dog left behind as riot police used considerable force against turkish demonstrators. they were angered by the dutch
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government's refusal to allow their politicians to attend a campaign rally in support of president erdogan. he is counting on the backing of more than a million turkish citizens living in europe to expand his powers back home in next month's referendum. but his minister for families wasn't allowed to address them. the second turkish minister turned back by the dutch government. she returned to istanbul defiant. translation: in holland - holland as a country that speaks of freedom and democracy — we were faced with very rough and hard treatment. it is ugly of europeans who talk about women's rights and tell us how we should treat women in turkey. all this followed president erdogan‘s far stronger language at a rally, denouncing the dutch as "nazi remnants and fascists". those words have infuriated several european governments, including germany's,
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mindful of the nazi occupation of holland during the second world war. we are absolutely willing to deescalate, of course these translation: we've asked the minister not to come because of the tensions we expected in rotterdam. but this is also the collision of two electoral campaigns in turkey and the netherlands. the dutch go to the polls first on wednesday. it's been a tense campaign, dominated by the anti—immigration freedom party of geert wilders. he blames the prime minister for allowing immigrants in, and is set to make big gains. it's unclear how the weekend violence and the extraordinary diplomatic crisis with turkey will influence dutch voters, making big choices against a background of rising populism across europe. james robbins, bbc news. egemen bagis, is a former minister of european union affairs. he joins us live from istanbul.
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thank you forjoining us. turkey's own general election law explicitly bans political campaigning abroad, so why is turkey so upset by what has happened this weekend? actually that law was quite old. after that law we passed a lot of new laws which provides for turkish politicians to campaign abroad. as a matter of fact, we did campaign in august 2014 for the presidential elections throughout europe. we did campaignfor elections throughout europe. we did campaign for parliamentary elections onjune campaign for parliamentary elections on june the 7th, campaign for parliamentary elections onjune the 7th, and then the renewed elections on october the 1st. there were no problems. this time around, many european countries including the netherlands, as we saw what they did last night was inhumane, undiplomatic and unlawful.
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many european countries this time are trying to block members of the governing party of turkey from campaigning. but they are ok with the opposition. that is definitely interfering in our domestic politics. why do you think they are doing that, what's their motive, if it's not just doing that, what's their motive, if it's notjust to stop scenes we are watching now escalating further?” really don't understand. my guess is there is a rise in nationalism in there is a rise in nationalism in the netherlands, and the current prime minister is scared that geert wilders the lunatic who was riding on this nationalism for the last couple of months, is going to gain a lot of fights, and he is trying to show that he is even more nationalist than this lunatic geert wilders. he is exploiting the visit ofa wilders. he is exploiting the visit of a turkish minister, the visit of an ally‘s countries minister. by
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pushing her out of her own diplomatic... she was 30 metres away from... inaudible you talk about the netherlands not behaving in a diplomatic fashion but how can it possibly be helpful when you are using language like lunatic about another politician, whether you agree with his views are not, when we've got the netherlands being described by president erdogan as a ba na na described by president erdogan as a banana republic, and the dutch being compared with the nazis. how is that diplomatic, surely you are creating more discontent? we are just reacting to the unreasonable actions of our so—called allies. reacting to the unreasonable actions of our so-called allies. it's not helpful, is it? never before has a minister been pushed out of a country. she was carrying a diplomatic passport. the way she was
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treated with a treatment towards 80 million citizens of this country. there are more than 5 million turks in eu countries, most of them are citizens of the respective countries they live in. they are taxpayers, they live in. they are taxpayers, they contribute to that society. they have a right and responsibility to learn about why they should vote in sucha to learn about why they should vote in such a manner. politicians from both sides who are in favour of the constitutional amendment and those against should have the right to go and address them and communicate with them. as we did in the past. this isn't the first time turks abroad are going to vote, they have voted numerous times before. we can only ever be in control of our own behaviour and our own language so what is turkey going to do to try to settle this situation? well, first of all we are taking some measures. the ambassador of the netherlands will not be welcome to turkey. he
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left two days prior to this crisis, i don't know if it was a coincidence 01’ i don't know if it was a coincidence ora i don't know if it was a coincidence or a planned leaving. but we were very clear that he isn't going to be welcomed back unless his government apologises. what about the language that you and president erdogan have been using about the dutch, how will you apologise for that?” been using about the dutch, how will you apologise for that? i don't think we said anything wrong despite their actions. what they did was using dogs to push people away and the dutch police dogs were biting turkish people trying to demonstrate their democratic rights. that is fascism in its simplest terms. what do you need the dutch to do to resolve this? they have to realise that the dutch citizens of turkish origin have a democratic right to listen to their ministers and they have two apologise for their actions, and welcome our ministers
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back so we can welcome their ministers when they want to visit turkey and their diplomats. we expect other european countries to raise their voice towards this dutch aggression, because what they did is totally against eu rules, totally against council of europe procedures and totally against the un conduct. egemen bagis, thank you for talking to us. the headlines on bbc news. the brexit secretary urges mps to back the bill for exiting the eu, to pave the way for the triggering of article 50. the iraqi army continues to make gains against so—called islamic state. following a night of violence in rotterdam, turkey's president warns the netherlands it will "pay the price" for expelling his foreign minister. iraqi forces have made more gains in west mosul,
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the largest city still under the control of the islamic state group. government troops, backed by a us—led coalition, recaptured the east of the city in late january, after more than 100 days of fighting. now they say a third of the west, which is almost completely surrounded, has been retaken. around 600,000 civilians are believed to be trapped inside. 0ur middle east correspondent 0rla guerin is with iraqi forces — you may find parts of her report distressing. a rare glimpse of western mosul. urban warfare on a momentous scale. caught below, hundreds of thousands of civilians. this is the place where is proclaimed its caliphate. here it was born, and here iraqi forces say it will die. 0n the ground, they are advancing, but struggling to hold what they capture. they pound is positions.
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then frantic gunfire towards a threat overhead. an is drone may be carrying explosives, they manage to shoot it down. this is as far as we can go for now, as you can hear there is a lot of gunfire in the area, there are snipers in position on this street. we have cover here, so we won't be moving from this position, but within the last half an hour or so, we have heard three car bombs going off in the distance. we have also had a lot of incoming mortarfire, you can hear now the sounds of battle. the is fighters that are in this area are putting up fierce resistance. troops using every weapon, even home—made rockets. then, the rush to
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retrieve a casualty. we can't say how many have paid with their lives, iraqi forces don't reveal their losses. but commanders say they have to defeat is here, orfight them elsewhere in the future. and as the fighting rages, more weary civilians leave scarred neighbourhoods, where they have been caught between the militants and the army. few may have endured more than this man. is put an anti—aircraft gun near his house. an air strike, targeting the extremists, brought the roof down on his family. translation: three of my
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daughters are dead. they buried my heart. my daughters were under the concrete of the house. they didn't let me see them before they were buried. as well as losing his daughters and his home, he lost his leg. he prays god will destroy is, as they have destroyed iraq. 0rla guerin, bbc news, western mosul. political parties in britain have been warned to protect themselves against potential cyber attacks, following allegations that russian hackers tried to influence last year's us presidential election. the national cyber security centre, which is part of the gchq spying agency, says it has written to the leaders of political parties offering to help
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strengthen their network security. last year us intelligence agencies concluded that russia hacked and leaked democratic party e—mails as part of an effort to tilt the presidential election in donald trump's favour. russia denies the claim. the creator of the world wide web, tim berners—lee, has expressed concern about fake news, data privacy and the misuse of political advertising online. in a message marking the anniversary of the internet‘s creation, sir tim warned against the loss of control of personal data and governments' scrutiny of their citizens online. at least 48 people are reported to have been killed in a landslide at a huge rubbish dump on the outskirts of the ethiopian capital, addis ababa. dozens of homes were buried under the debris and a number of people are still missing. lucy martin has more. desperate residents wait for news at this rubbish dump on the outskirts
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of ethiopia's capital. a massive landslide swept through the site on saturday, burying dozens of makeshift homes. sirens. many of the victims were women and children, squatters who scavenged for a living in the dump. many people are still missing, and today excavators sifted through the rubbish, as authorities searched for survivors. translation: i heard that eight children who were studying the holy koran were all buried somewhere in the middle of the rubble. this landfill has been a dumping ground for the capital's garbage for more than 40 years. there have been smaller landslides in the past, but nothing like this. authorities warned the landfill was running out of room, and it closed last year. but dumping resumed after a new landfill was rejected by residents. translation: we told them not to dump on the top. i think the decision by the city's
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officials to resume dumping waste was the main reason for this accident. i think around 150 people were here during the landslide. local authorities have vowed to relocate those who live here. but, for these families, action has come too late. lucy martin, bbc news. at least 34 people have been killed and 17 injured in northern haiti, after a bus crashed into a group of people outside the town of gonaives. officials said the bus first knocked over two pedestrians, killing one of them. the driver then attempted to speed away from the scene, ploughing into a group of street musicians. rail workers in three parts of the country go on strike tomorrow, as the dispute that's caused months of chaos for southern rail commuters spreads to the north of england. conductors working on the merseyrail, northern and southern services are walking out in a row over their future role. danni hewson reports. it may have been business as usual
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today, but here in liverpool and right across the north, commuters are bracing themselves for chaos. from midnight, rail workers with the rmt union will begin a 24 hour strike affecting thousands of passengers. i don't know how i am going to get home. we willjust have to see what we can sort out tomorrow. it will be packed. a lot of people will be stranded and won't know where to go. especially if you are not from the area. the companies affected are northern, the uk's second largest operator, which serves passengers across the north, including leeds, manchester, sheffield, newcastle and liverpool. only 40% of their services will run. merseyrail, which serves mainly merseyside, will run trains every half an hour, rather than every 15 minutes, and southern, which will still round 90% of services. the row was triggered by proposed changes to the role of the onboard guard, changes, the union says, riskjobs and safety.
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we believe that services operated on a driver only, driver controlled operation are fundamentally less safe, and every train in the uk should retain a second safety critical person onboard. efforts to resolve the dispute in recent weeks have broken down. 0perators say they need to modernise, and safety won't be compromised. we put safety at the heart of everything we do. the rail regulator has indicated this is as safe as conductor operation of the doors. this isn't about who opens and closes the door, this is about giving customers what they want. for now, both sides are at an impasse and few expect tomorrow's disruption will be the last. the former president of south korea, park geun—hye, has said the truth will emerge about the allegations that forced herfrom office. the comments were made as miss park arrived at her private home in seoul after leaving the presidential palace following her impeachment.
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the ousted president has lost her immunity and could face criminal proceedings as part of a corruption scandal. here's our seoul correspondent, stephen evans. she returned like a hero, her supporters greeting her with ecstatic cheers. this was not the demeanour of a disgraced politician. the only elected president of south korea to be kicked from office. a statement said she looked forward to the truth coming out. it may come out in a trial. the head of samsung is already behind bars while he's tried for allegedly giving money to former president park's best friend in return for government favours for the company. on saturday, her supporters were out in force. they say her impeachment was politically motivated and driven through by the left. and those who protested against her also held a rally on saturday, a victory rally. for them, park geun—hye has been a symbol of a wider alleged
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corruption, a hand in glove relationship between business and government. there are elections in under two months and one of the left of centre frontrunners said park's ousting was a victory for the people. translation: a complete victory of the honourable people's revolution can be achieved by making the country ofjustice and common sense through a regime change. he says it is a people's revolution which can be completed by making the country more just and founded on common sense. at her home, park geun—hye may reflect on all of this. but she is unlikely to have much spare time. 30 people have been accused in the scandal. if they now turn on her, her problems are going to get worse. stephen evans, bbc news, south korea.
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