hello, it's tuesday, it's 9 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme "without him there would be no peace" — one of the tributes to martin mcguiness, the former ira leader turned peacekeeper who's died this morning aged 66. myjourney‘s been a long journey, i've been over 25 years working and building the peace. people were being murdered by the ruc, or they were being murdered wholesale as they were at bloody sunday by the parachute regiment. and the fact that many young people like myself — supported by many thousands in the city, i'm not saying there was a majority. i—efifi $§ decided to fight back. i do not regret any of that. of being a paedophile because of a typo by police if you're a decent person, and frightening for my family.

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into a large catholic family, martin mcguinness came of age as northern ireland's divides became troubles. in that time of violence, hejoined the ira, quickly in resgonse—ts—a—ni—gublicas‘emand—g. the 19705 saw him becagg q; = irish republicanism, offences in dublin. of the provisional ira there. become a vicious battle. even then, the language of threat remained.

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was killed, the then—deputy first minister stood side—by—side those dissident groups. they are traitors to the island of ireland. alongside the words, there were actions on all sides. the queen's cousin lord mountbatten was killed by the ira. yet, after the troubles, royal and republican were able to put their difference aside. are you well? thank you very much, i am still alive! nice to see you again. however, relationships at stormont always seemed strained after ian paisley stepped down as first minister, to be replaced by peter robinson, and then arlene foster. earlier this year, with his ill—health by then obvious, martin mcguinnesswalkedml! of government, amid a row i've been over 25 years working and building the peace.

15.2 eé2fi§iw but as a republican who worked towards reconciliation, our ireland correspondent 2l»? 22:? e2 '2 523221 tell us about some of. reaction, mixed reaction, to of mixed reaction, to the death of martin mcguinness. martin mcguinness had a complex and controversial life k2722 " ' had a complex and controversial life 5? also i had a complex and controversial life 5? also today we have heard plenty but also today we have heard plenty about the role he played in the peace process. he more than anybody else the journey of irish 2.22222222......:.,22 from guns . government republicans from guns to government and people observed if it was not mcguinness there may not for martin mcguinness there may not have been the peace process at all. tony blair who negotiated the 22221! have been the peace process at all. tony i agreementjotiated the 22221! have been the peace process at all. tony i agreement in :iated the 22221! have been the peace process at all. tony i agreement in 1998 the 22221! have been the peace process at all.

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