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you're watching bbc news. i'm ben brown live at westminster where the prime minister says the man behind yesterday's terror attack was british—born and known to mi5. the islamic state group has claimed responsibility. all three victims of yesterday's terror attack which also left scores injured have now been named. kurt cochran, from utah in london with his wife to celebrate their silver wedding anniversary. spanish teacher, ayesha frade, was one of 2 other people who were killed — seven others are still in a critical condition in hospital. pc keith palmer was a8, a husband and father. one mp who served with pc palmer in the army asked theresa may to consider recognising posthumously his "galla ntry and sacrifice". he was a strong, professional public servant. and it was a delight to meet him
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here again only a few months after being elected. mps and police held a minute's silence at 09.33 this morning — 933 was the shoulder number of the murdered officer. the prime minister said that britain would not be cowed. good afternoon from westminster, where the prime minister has told mps that the man who carried out yesterday's attack was born in the uk and had been known to the security services.
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she described the events as an ‘attack on free people everywhere, and an attempt to silence democracy.‘ the islamic state terror group says it carried out the attack. police have made their first arrests in connection with the incident, which left four people dead, including the perpetrator. raids were carried out in birmingham and london overnight — and eight people have been arrested. theresa may has confirmed that the suspect was once investigated by mi5 over concerns of violent extremism. she said he was not part of the current intelligence picture. she said he was not part of the current intelligence picture. the queen has led the tributes. in a statement from the palace, queen elizabeth said, "my thoughts, prayers and deepest sympathy are with all those who have affected by yesterday's awful violence." aysha frade, a mother
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of two, was one of the two people who were killed, when the attacker targeted pedestrians with his car on westminster bridge. she was on her way to pick up her children. the other person killed on the bridge was kurt cochran, an american who was in london with his wife to celebrate their silver wedding anniversary. his wife melissa is seriously injured in hospital. pc keith palmer was stabbed to death by the suspect at the entrance of the palace of westminster. the attacker was then shot dead by police. 29 people remain in hospital, including seven in a critical condition. wyre davies reports. the house of commons was in sombre, reflective mood this morning. order. colleagues in respectful memory of those who lost their lives in yesterday's attack, and of all of the casualties of that attack, we shall now observe a minute's silence. mr speaker, yesterday
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an act of terrorism tried to silence our democracy. but today we meet as normal... as generations have done before us, and as future generations will continue to do. to deliver a simple message: we are not afraid and our resolve will never waiver in the face of terrorism. as the queen said her thoughts and sympathy were with all of those affected by yesterday's awful violence, at new scotland yard, the metropolitan police paid their tributes to a fallen colleague, after an attack on the capital that everyone had dreaded and trained for but is now determined to overcome.
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with the union flag at half mast above the palace of westminster, the immediate area around parliament remains closed to the public, that includes westminster bridge, where shortly before 3.00pm yesterday afternoon a lone attacker drove a four wheel drive vehicle at high—speed, through an unsuspecting crowd of tourists, police officers, and londoners going about their business. 0ne victim was catapulted into the thames as the car mounted the kerb. the unnamed woman was pulled from the river injured but alive. the vehicle continued at speed, past big ben and crashed into the railings surrounding the palace of westminster. but the attacker got out and armed with two large knives, ran around to the main gates where he stabbed a police officer, 48—year—old keith palmer. as he continued further into the ground, the assailant was then shot as he tried to attack other officers. stand back! back!
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is he coming? the panic and the fear that the attack caused inside parliament, clearly apparent in this dramatic mobile phone footage, taken inside the palace of westminster, as staff and mps fled. get back! amid the chaos of yesterday's attack, many have commented on the extraordinary bravery and compassion of passers—by, mps and emergency services in giving first aid and tending to the victims. but three people were killed by the attacker, including pc palmer, a father and husband. also aysha frade, a 43—year—old from spain, teaching spanish in london. and american tourist, cut cochran, in london celebrating his 25th wedding anniversary. the attacker, who also
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received first aid but died from his injuries, has not been named but he was british and was once investigated for links to extremist organisations. police from several forces launched simultaneous operations overnight in the midlands and in london, making eight arrests in connection with the westminster attack. the enquiries in birmingham, london and other parts of the country are continuing. it is still our belief, and continues to be borne out by this investigation that this attacker acted alone and was inspired by international terrorism. investigators are still pain—stakingly piecing together the exact circumstances of what happened in and around parliament. but in london and westminster generally, security has been visibly and significantly increased, around what was already one of the most heavily protected areas of the capital. the importance of providing a blanket of security, while maintaining the freedoms britons cherish so deeply, never more challenging. a lot of the roads around
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westminster are still closed. we are at the police cordon on millbank but westminster bridge, where so many people were killed or injureds has now reopened. 0ur political correspondent is there now for us. eleanor, what is the scene there this afternoon? ben, the bridge is open, the buses are back, the traffic is moving and the tourists are here once again, in the exact spot where 2a hours ago, a karanka evened up here into the side of the pavement and where people were injured and as we now know some died. there are people here taking photographs and selfies and closer to parliament, down there, there is a crowd gathering. flowers are being laid close to the police cord en. members from parliament have been
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coming out to stand, pause and reflect. 0f coming out to stand, pause and reflect. of course, the traffic is back. it is still busy, and there are more police here than there would normally be. they are directing the traffic but they are trying to keep everything moving. there is a sense that they want thereoned get back to london, to see people going to work, the tourists back here taking photographs. i have spoken to people from brazil, south africa, who wanted to come and see what was happening and to pay their respects too. we know that obviously one teach terror a school not far from here died. just as we were arriving to set up filming i spoke to one of her colleagues. she did not want to talk on camera but was feeling so sad for the woman's children, that is what she wanted to say. and her thoughts and her prayers and wishes were for the children of the lady that died. and as we spin here, this is how close we are to the river. we know one woman had to be pulled from the
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water. we know she is in hospital being treated and as we spin around we can see the st thomas hospital where some of the injured were taken to be treated. so the bridge is open, the traffic is moving. there isa open, the traffic is moving. there is a lot of media attention but people are coming mainly to pay their respects. i have seen people jogging. their respects. i have seen people jogging, people walking, going to meetings, going about their daily work. so things starting to go back to normal but lots of reflection on what happened yesterday. thank you very much. so, what do we know about the attacker who drove the hire car along westminster bridge? he'd been investigated in the past in connection with violent extremism. the prime minister said he was not pa rt
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the prime minister said he was not part of the current intelligence figure but a peripheralfigure. so what the police are trying to establish is together politically who, if anyone was helping him. 0ur security correspondent frank gardner reports. investigating the london attack. the clues are out there but this is going to take some time. there's a lot to follow up. but already so—called islamic state has claimed responsibility. first priority has been to identify this man, the attacker. that's been done. he was born in britain, a known radical on mi5‘s database, and investigated years ago for violent extremism. then there's the car he drove, crashing into parliament's railings. forensic teams will be able to gather fingerprints and dna samples to find out who else has been inside it recently. cctv and anpr, that's automated numberplate recognition, should reveal the exact route he took yesterday in the lead up to the attack. the bbc understands it was hired from a rental company in the west midlands, called enterprise. last night there was an armed
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police raid in birmingham and across the country six addresses have been searched and eight arrests made. it certainly looks like this individual was acting alone, although it's very unusual for someone to actually be completely on their own, isolated. extremists and terrorists live in communities. they have relationships the same as everybody else. i would be very surprised if there weren't others who at least knew that there was an intention to carry out an attack. they may not have known the timing. much of this investigation will be taking place out of sight. gchq, the government's listening station and its partners in mi5, the security service, will want to read and analyse every communication the attacker made. they'll be using analytical software to match up his contacts
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with other known extremists. if his messages were encrypted, which they probably were, then the codebreakers will get to work. the aim, to find out who else might have been involved. 0n mi5‘s databases that are over 3000 british citizens known to have links to violent extremism. some of them only on the edges. many people will now be asking, so why couldn't this attack have been stopped? there are issues about whether mi5, which does an excellentjob by the way, has sufficient staffing to be able to track people who come onto its radarfor long enough. we now have the investigatory powers act 2016 in force, which empowers the security services in a proportionate way, to follow the internet traffic of people who are interested in being radicalised and we need to see if it is sufficient. but low tech, high impact attacks like this one, are hard to predict and harder to stop. were it not for the swift response of police and emergency services the casualties could have been far worse. frank gardner, bbc news. this afternoon we have had
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confirmation of another of the fatalities on westminster bridge. we knew that frayed frayed frayed a —— ays ha knew that frayed frayed frayed a —— aysha frade, the spanish teacher, died in the attack and now considerate cochran, who died when the car sped along the pavement. some said it seemed to be travelling at 70 miles an hour. kurt cochran was here celebrating his 25th wedding anniversary to his wife, melissa. the family have put out a statement saying that they are heart broken to learn of the death of their son and brother—in—law, a good
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man and loving husband to sister and daughter, melissa. they were in europe, there to celebrate their 25th wedding anniversary, scheduled to return to the united states today, in fact. to return to the united states today, infact. melissa to return to the united states today, in fact. melissa was also seriously injured in the attack and is currently here in london in hospital. the family of melissa, expressing their gratitude to the emergency and medical personnel and are asking for the prayers of people on behalf of melissa and their family and saying that cut will be greatly missed. so, cut w cochran, the last of the fatalities to be named. in terms of the police investigation we know that there have been raids in london and birmingham and a number of arrest, eight all together. 0ur correspondent is in birmingham. let's talk with her now. seema, what can you tell bus the police investigation in birmingham?
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the police are still going into the flat. three men have been taken away by the police. and eight men arrested in connection to the attacks in westminster. four of the arrest are in the birmingham area. we have heard from the owner of the restau ra nt we have heard from the owner of the restaurant next door to the flat who assisted the police with their enquiries. he said, his name, firstly is mr mahacha ban. enquiries. he said, his name, firstly is mr mahachaban. he is the owner of the restaurant next to the flat. he said: as a british citizen, i wish to make it clear i'm appalled by this act of violence. i confirm that the police have made some arrests. and i believe that the men arrested from the flat are helping the with the police in their
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enquiries. i reiterate what theresa may said that voices of evil should not dive us apart. that is the man who owns the next door restaurant. i had a lengthy chat with him before he gave this statement, he was shaken up. but he reiterated that he has no idea who the men are. they we re has no idea who the men are. they were renting the premises were an estate agent. but that he says that they are confident that they are helping the police with their enquiries. seema, thank you very much. seema, thank you very much. seema reporting from birmingham. the assailant, who the prime minister was saying was british—born is not p being named. the police are saying that their investigations into him and his background are at a sensitive stage. they do not wish to put out his name and police are urging anyone with knowledge of events here are urged to get in
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touch with them. members of the public are asked to call the anti—terrorist hotline on 0800 789 321. that is the same number if people want to report anything else suspicious they may have spotted. the police are asking people to be extra vigilant. that there are extra police patrols, not just extra vigilant. that there are extra police patrols, notjust in westminster but right around the capital in the wake of the attack. 24 2a hours ago, westminster bridge was packed, as it always is. people on their way to and from work, walking through the heart of london. within minutes, a police officer and two people were dead, and up to a0 people were dead, and up to a0 people were dead, and up to a0 people were injured from 12 different countries.
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pc keith palmer, a husband, a father, a police officer for 15 years, he died protecting parliament, the prime minister said he was ever inch a hero. he was remembered today by colleagues in a police service that has been left numb by the loss of one of their own. today, across the service we have police officers in mourning for their former colleague, pc keith palmer. words can't express the grief that everyone in the police service feels at losing a colleague but of course that pales into insignificance when one thinks of the pc palmer's family, friends and colleagues at this extremely troubling time. also killed in this attack was aysha frade, who was in her a0s and worked at a college close to westminster bridge. it was reported she was on her way to pick up her children. the principle of the college said she was highly regarded and loved by students and colleagues. a former neighbour spoke of her devastation. she was just a lovely person, with two lovely children, two lovely, lovely girls. how are these children? they've lost their mother. you leave your kids, you took them to school,
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you go to pick them up and now this has happened to you. i'm just in shock. this is too much shock. those caught up in this attack came from many different countries, and the family of considerate cochran from utah in the united states have confirmed that he died in the attack. he was in london with his wife, celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary. she is seriously injured in hospital. those caught up in this attack came from many different countries, romanian officials say a woman when fell into the river thames when the car ploughed into pedestrians, is a tourist in london to celebrate her boyfriend's birthday, it was reported she was seriously injured. and there was a group of students from this school in brittany. they were in london on an educational trip, three were injured, two are reported to have suffered serious fractures. the french foreign minister travelled to london to visit them. it's a new tragedy.
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and i want, i made a way to return to paris but i wanted to stop to london first to say a message, to the british people. a message of solidarity. to london first to say a message, to the british people — a message of solidarity. of those injured in the attack 29 were treated in hospital and some of those remain in a critical condition. daniel boettcher, bbc news. within the last few minute, the united states president, donald trump tweeted a tribute the to victims, to considerate cochran, saying he was a great american. his prayers and condo ring—fences are with his family. mr cochran was an engineer. he was killed while walking on westminster bridge. his wife,
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melissa, is in hospital, her injuries are now known to be not serious. they were celebrating their 25th anniversary. now to the service for the death of martin mcguinness. this service has been going on for a while now? that's right it is going on in londonderry, where martin mcguinness practiced his catholic faith. the father, spoke of the man who was an ira commander but who became the main stay of the peace process and reflected on the journey, main stay of the peace process and reflected on thejourney, a main stay of the peace process and reflected on the journey, a word that has come up again and again, of a man who went on the journey of being a commander, to being a political leader. many victims of
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this have found the tributes hard to listen to but today the focus has been much more on martin mcguinness‘s role in the peace process , mcguinness‘s role in the peace process, that resulted in him being a joint leader in the power—sharing government at stormont. two prominent ministers played a role in the church service, the reverend harold goode, who witnessed ira decommissioning. and reflected on his relationship with martin mcguinness and then the reverend david latymer, who had a close friendship with martin mcguinness. he said that martin mcguinness bequeathed to the people of northern ireland a better place to live. he said that he foresaw a day where they together would be praising god, as he put it, in heaven. so the fact that two protestant ministers have had that contribution to make in the
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funeral service for martin mcguinness is a measure of how northern ireland has moved over the 25 years of the peace process, that martin mcguinness was so critical to. one of the majorfigures martin mcguinness was so critical to. one of the major figures of that process was the former us president, bill clinton, who encouraged that agreement in the i990s. he is in the congregation today and will speak in the service possibly in the next half an hour or so. chris, sorry, talking about the vip nature of the guest list? well, that's right there. are many political leaders from britain and ireland. there is the northern ireland. there is the northern ireland secretary, james brokenshire, representing the government. the democratic party union leader, arlene foster, she announced this morning she was to attend the service. it had not been
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clear if she would or not. the power—sharing executive collapsed in january, so these are difficult political times in northern ireland. it isa political times in northern ireland. it is a difficult matter for the unionist leader to decide to attend a funeral of a former ira commander. there are some of the vip, there shaking hands, including former president, clinton and other political leaders, the irish prime minister, enya kennedy and mr higgins, and many people from martin mcguinness‘s past and present playing a role in the service. of course martin mcguinness‘s family, his four children, his widow, bernie and his widowed grandchildren here. chris, we will be back to you later. thank you very much. chris cap page is in derry. and now to the events in
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westminster, of course. the police are urging anyone with information on the events to get in touch with them. they have issued a phone line. members of the public are asked to call: 0800789321. let's go to westminster bridge. eleanor garnier is there now. in the last hour or so, westminster bridge was reopened. the traffic is moving, the tourists are taking selfies, photograph, and also reflection. lots of people laying flowers, a member of staff from parliament, laying flowers and also police members who came from across the road to reflect, pause on what happened yesterday. i'm joined by
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ken marsh, the chairman of the metropolitan police federation. thank you for being with us. how is eve ryo ne thank you for being with us. how is everyone doing? 0k. obviously it thank you for being with us. how is everyone doing? ok. obviously it has beena very everyone doing? ok. obviously it has been a very traumatic 24 hours but we have to get on with ourjob. we are here to police the streets of london, to keep the community safe, thatis london, to keep the community safe, that is what we are signed up to do, and we will do it. 0ver and we will do it. over the last 2a hours, you have been talking to colleagues and visiting hospitals as well? absolutely. we have visited all of oui’ absolutely. we have visited all of our colleagues in hospital and given the support that is required for all of them to offer them everything that we can to ensure a speedy recovery. in terms of recovery, how are your collea g u es in terms of recovery, how are your colleagues doing? i cannot go into details but they are not good. they have serious injuries, that they will recover from, i hope. and have you noticed too, so many people on the bridge, the tourists
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are here, your colleagues are laying flowers on the bridge. how much does it mean? it means a huge amount. t we have had incredible support from around the world. everyone understands you cannot let this stop your daily lives. we don't want the terrorists to win. we will continue to do what we do forever. i hope that the tour ises and the londoners come to london and continue. the prime minister has asked for life to continue as normal. but there will be reflection, questions about what happened, whether or not security should be changed, or officers should be armed. is that something that your colleagues wish to see? no. we don't want to see routine arming. we never asked for that. we would like to see more specialist firearms officers, i have spoken to senior officers in the police to look at that. they will look and listen to the questions
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that are put to them. there will be a review of where we are and how we are and where specialist officers are and where specialist officers are required for specialist roles. that is it from us at westminster bridge where the traffic is now moving. anita mcveigh, do we have a name? we, we do, the metropolitan police say that the man believed to be responsible for the terrorist attack in westminster yesterday is chalid masood. daniel can tell us more. this man is a 52—year—old man, who the police believe was born in kent but re ce ntly believe was born in kent but recently living in the west midlands. the police are saying he was not the subject of any current investigations and there was no prior intelligence about his intent to commita prior intelligence about his intent to commit a terrorist attack. however, they do say he was known to the police, he had a range of previous convictions for assaults,
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including gb h, possession of offensive weapons and public order conviction, a conviction for criminal damage, and the most recent one, derricks 2003 for possession of a knife. they say he was not convicted of previous terrorist offences. but we did hear he was known to m15 ina but we did hear he was known to m15 in a peripheral sense? the prime ministerdid in a peripheral sense? the prime minister did tell the house of commons, that has been confirmed by the security sources that he appeared on the periphery of a previous investigation that involved concerns of violent extremism the question is how periphery in relation to that? there is suggestion that he had in the past floated around the edge of an investigation more linked to violent extremism. and the police are saying that anyone with information about masood
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should contact them. the police have said that they have known for a few hours about this man but waited for the police to formerly confirm it. now it has happened, the reason is to let the public know who the man is who did this, and also as they wa nt is who did this, and also as they want those who know him to come forward to give information about previous movements and experience that they may have had that may have suggested he could have been involved in this sort of thing and who might have known and who could have been with him when concerned about his activities to build up an intelligence picture of this man who killed a police officer, killed others driving at high—speed across westminster bridge and was eventually shot by a protection officer with a handgun. policing this individual was acting alone. nevertheless, have been
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arrests and properties searched. yes, still nothing from the police to suggest that they think that there is any certainty that he was acting with others. it is quite possible from his investigatory point of view —— berendt desiccator at point of view they are acting alone. they clearly need to know if other people are involved. that's why they have arrested other people. they will be going through all his electronic devices, computers, mobile phones, making sure that there is not anything there that could give them clues about who they have been communicating with overseas or here. it is worth mentioning today that twitter accounts linked to islamic state say that this is done in the name of islamic state. eg for islamic state to claim that. yes. in some time -- in some ways, it is irrelevant. they wa nt in some ways, it is irrelevant. they want to know about people in this country or people that they could
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get to overseas that they could get to who knew about it in advance. people giving assistance to this man, khalid masood, who is now believed to be the killer. just to remind our view is that the met police have just relieved the lake mac —— released the name of the person they believe that the attack. khalid masood. they believe he was most recently living in the west midlands and was known by a number of aliases. police are also stressing we should point out that they don't believe that there was any intelligence to suggest there was any kind of imminent threat to the public. that has been obvious since yesterday. the threat level could have gone up. they could have but the threat level up one more notch to suggest that there was an attack imminent. it was going to happen now. if they thought there was ever any real solid evidence, then the threat level will have gone
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up then the threat level will have gone up above severe. it didn't, it stayed at severe, and that was because all the evidence was that this attack is over and therefore there is not much chance of there being a follow—up or anything like that. these things are never impossible, but that is the clear working thesis that the police are working thesis that the police are working on at the moment. a complex scene, or seems, for officers to investigate. already, westminster bridge has reopened. in terms of what is going to happen in the days and weeks ahead, what can you tell us and weeks ahead, what can you tell us about the response? you have seen the first response already. you have seen the first response already. you have seen dealing with the incidents itself also be suspect being shot dead because he was a threat to life. now it is a public edification, a 52—year—old man, kurt -- khalid edification, a 52—year—old man, kurt —— khalid masood, has now been named. there will be inquests. that
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is being done on westminster bridge, westminster bridge is now running, all of this was now shutoff yesterday, it is now running. this area will become more normal from now on. this business of identifying the associates of khalid masood, thatis the associates of khalid masood, that is something that will take days and weeks and sometimes even months. questions there. speaking of the palace of westminster about weather the police alter the security while trying to strike a balance between that and allowing it to bea balance between that and allowing it to be a open place that people can visit. it is inevitable that they are going to have to review security for the palace of westminster. there was always an obvious possible source of weakness which was the vehicle gates through which mps dry
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each day. it is the exit gate for visitors to parliament. that is the way they come out. it has always beena way they come out. it has always been a potential weak point. it has always been armed officers there. this attack shows that it is possible to breach that external perimeter. admittedly, not very far, but nobody wants to see a repeat of what happened, or anything worse. they will review, whether they will change, that is a case of balance. wanting to keep it secure without it becoming a fortress. thank you for that. just to reiterate, that development is that police are here at the met and saying that they have identified the man they believe to be responsible for the terrorist attack yesterday, 52—year—old khalid masood. born kent. detectives believe he had been recently living in the west midlands and was also known by a number of aliases. here at new scotland yard, the centre of
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investigation, the mayor of london, sadiq khan, has been meeting senior police officers this morning. the meeting has ended. we have also seen faith leaders from a wide range of communities across london meeting metropolitan police officers here this afternoon, as well. the police now urging the public to keep coming forward with information. whether thatis forward with information. whether that is anything they might have filmed yesterday, during this attack, or any other concerns they have two come forward and talk to officers as this investigation continues. back to you in the studio. thank you very much. with me is our security correspondent frank gardner. he isa he is a briton, we have a name, criminal conventions. no convictions for terrorism. difficult to spot even though he was on the periphery.
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this is the problem. there is a well—known nexus, a crossing over between the criminal world and terrorism. even though he had no convictions for terrorism and he wasn't on a terrorism watchlist, he wasn't on a terrorism watchlist, he wasn't under surveillance, he was clearly what president trump might call a bad dude. clearly what president trump might calla bad dude. he clearly what president trump might call a bad dude. he had been done for knives, gbh, violent assault. he had a criminal record of violence. he was probably quite a disturbed person from time to time. the problem is, the police and security service, they come and look inside people's heads. for years, this guy will have not put his head above the parapet. he might be well known for not being particularly fond of his government or of the british state. he might be quite fond of may be the caliphate, but not actually doing anything which reveals his hand, thatis anything which reveals his hand, that is the thing. it is the moment where someone that is the thing. it is the moment where someone says, that is the thing. it is the moment where someone says, i am not going to be angry, i'm going to do an
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angry action. i know you hate the phrase lone wolf, but there is hope that this is what there is. —— places. and yet, the security agencies will want to know who he has been in touch with. yes. there have been many arrests and none of those are to say that they are in touch with his actions. also the trail that he will have left, he will telephone and they will cross — refe re nce will telephone and they will cross—reference that with analytical softwa re cross—reference that with analytical software to go through all his softwa re software to go through all his software —— contacts to make sure that they know what links there. i s has claimed response ability. that is easy. yes. it is a claim of convenience. it is unlikely that it had in thing to do with the actions of this, but he was probably sympathetic to their goals and remember that they are coming under enormous pressure on the ground in syria and iraq, so the more their
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caliphate crumbles around their knees, they are calling out as indeed they did in the last 2a hours, to their supporters to carry out attacks in other countries. hours, to their supporters to carry out attacks in other countriesm is clear that his name was known to police last night. what will they have been doing up until the moment they met named him? they had to otherwise it would have gone out. yes. i think the acting deputy commissioner pretty much said that. i know that you, the press, are effectively doing yourjob by trying to find out who years. i would ask you to please keep that quiet until we are ready. they need to chase up his associates. the moment that name and his bit picture starts going out there, that can actually spook some people. so some associates of his that they don't know about, might then flee. with a little bit more time, they can chase them down and
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make arrests. what do we read into the fact that the he was known to mi5. the fact that the he was known to m15. they are dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. eventually, there will be an internal inquest in mi5, there will be an internal inquest in m15, could they have stopped this. that is the question they must ask. was there anything in this guys actions that betrayed his actions? if there was not, they cannot be to blame. his convictions go right back, his criminal activity go right back, his criminal activity go right back to 1983 and he was never done for terrorism. they can't watch all 3000 plus of known jihadists sympathisers that they have got on their database. some sympathisers that they have got on their data base. some of sympathisers that they have got on their database. some of those are pretty peripheral. they have to prioritise. they don't always get it right. 77, the london bombings, was a massive intelligence failure. the fa ct a massive intelligence failure. the fact that the bombs didn't go off, didn't mean that m15 didn't drop the ball there. this is different. we are talking about a low—tech also he rents a car, goes into london, he was stopped at the gates. people
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forget that. there was no breach in effect. there is nothing they could have done in advance, is there? not ready. they have got cctv, they have got a ready. they have got cctv, they have gota mpr, ready. they have got cctv, they have got a mpr, automatic number plate recognition. it is hindsight. do your member in 2003 when they put out those crash barriers outside of westminster? at the time, people we re westminster? at the time, people were saying that this thing is so ugly. were saying that this thing is so i were saying that this thing is so ugly. i said do you know what? it will just be part ugly. i said do you know what? it willjust be part of the furniture willjust be part of the furniture will stop they might now have to think about other things. one of the measures that they are looked at or discussed and called for is arming all police outside because it does seem all police outside because it does seem to be a bit of a unfair apartheid that some people get to carry guns and an armed policeman are much more likely. if this bloke had been carrying a 636, would he still have been attacked? possibly, yes. we don't know. thank you very
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much. political and religious leaders have been rallying to stress the importance of all faiths coming together in unity against this terrorist attack. but here now from the director of faith forum london. that is a message that i'm sure you wa nt to that is a message that i'm sure you want to reaffirm. indeed. as a representative of london's faith communities, we utterly condemn and deplore the brutal attack that took place yesterday by parliament. it was a cowardly attack. it showed no level of sophistication and your previous guest said, it did not breach westminster. the gates. it is a really important point to say that the communities that are coming together, working with the police service, and working to promote community cohesion, and to keep our
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streets safer, there is an element of this that we have to recognise. there is better coordination. it is tragic that we have had this loss of life. but there is a hope in how londoners have remained united. they will not be divided, they continue to live, they will not be defeated. we will not change our lifestyles because of extremists. the far right or muslim extremists. we will not allow them to pray. forgive me. now we have a name, we have a name, khalid masood. what advice would you give to anybody saying, i think you know —— i think i know them. give to anybody saying, i think you know -- i think i know them. what advice would you give to them? faith leaders across the country of all faiths have been very clear that we need to work side—by—side with the police service and allow the thorough investigation. if anybody
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has any information, it is vital that you share that with our security. it is very timely to see how faith communities are working together. faith institutions are reminding people that they need to be mortgage land and they will not allow a ny be mortgage land and they will not allow any spin off in terms of hate crimes. i wonder what you would say to the ukip leader paul nuttall. he isa to the ukip leader paul nuttall. he is a member of the european parliament. he says that the westminster attack proves britain has an integration crisis. what would you say to him?|j has an integration crisis. what would you say to him? i think there isa would you say to him? i think there is a lot of evidence to show how we asa is a lot of evidence to show how we as a society and our british values keeps us and doesn't allow extremist voices to undermine the community cohesion that we got in this country. we are seeing in just last month over 100 mosques open their doors and welcome their neighbours. we are seeing community events
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taking place. volunteering. promoting volunteering in the local neighbourhood. encouraging muslims to come out and work in their local neighbourhood. there is a lot of good happening. sadly, this difficult offence is going to pose a challenge. we must not fall into the trap of dividing each other. as we are seeing in a few hours today, london will gather in trafalgar square london will gather in trafalgar square as a london will gather in trafalgar square as a united front to show that we will remain united, respect our diverse city and celebrate them london is diverse. great britain's diversity will remain. thank you very much. let's head back to scotla nd very much. let's head back to scotland yard. my colleague is at the met police headquarters now. anita. thank you. just to reiterate the news, we have been bringing you
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it in the last few minutes, the metropolitan police say they believe they know the man responsible for they know the man responsible for the attack in westminster yesterday. they have named him as khalid masood. let me just bring you some details of what they say about him. they say he was 52 years old, that he was born in kent, but believe he was living most recently in the west midlands and that he was also known bya number of midlands and that he was also known by a number of aliases. the metropolitan police say khalid masood was not the subject of any current investigations are there was no prior intelligence about his intent to mount an intelligence attack. however, he was known to the police and has a range of previous convictions for assault, including gbh, possession of offensive weapons and public order offences. his first conviction was in november 1983 for criminal damage. his last convention was in december 2003 for possession ofa was in december 2003 for possession of a knife. that is the latest from
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the police on what they know about the police on what they know about the individual. with me now are to faith leaders who have just been meeting the metropolitan police here at new scotland yard saying they stand together. there is no division between the faith communities. i have a director—general of the london central mosque and also a member of the shia community. we know that the news of the press centre for the so—called islamic state have claimed responsibility for this attack. even them to do that. we had in the commons earlier one mp asking the prime minister if she would agree that what was done yesterday was a perversion, carried out on some sort of perverted way, to represent the islamic faith? i'm sure you would agree. it is a
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perversion of is or any other faith, i believe. all these actions of the so—called islamic state anywhere. from what happened yesterday... we must not show divisions, solidarity in the society from all faith leaders. also, we work together here. showing solidarity, showing condemnation, showing that we work together against this awful thing. i believe muslims agree that is correct in this land the window. how important is it now for faith leaders to come together like this with the police and to pass on the conversation that you have had here in scotland yard to the communities? are you concerned that this attack
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could create division? it is very important that we get together and do not let terrorists divide us. these extremists who are minorities, they are trying to sow the seeds of division then they are not going to win. we are getting very wary of having to justify our faith and condemn every time attacks happen. i think we need to deal with the root causes. we've all agreed that we will be more frank in our discussions to try and deal with some of the thoughts and ideas that encouraged these extremist views which has nothing to do with islam. when you say be more frank in your discussions, what does that mean in practice? that means we want to say to all these bridges, practice? that means we want to say
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to allthese bridges, —— preachers, we must use all the possibilities, mosques, islamic centres, everywhere from amazon side at least. we are representing it together. that track from the muslim side. shows that is our rejection and condemnation. also making sure that there are doors open for youth to answer questions attracting them to the mosque. to listen to our real message, not to be hijacked or taken away by some individuals who don't really understand the faith. it does not represent the faith it is. stronger voices of condemnation. yes. stronger voices of condemnation, more open doors for everybody to the mosques and two islamic centres, attracting the youth really, answering their questions. also interfaith between muslims themselves. all moslems, regardless of what school they are presenting,
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they must show solidarity together in rejecting this. —— moslems. they must show solidarity together in rejecting this. -- moslems. the use of social media to try and huack use of social media to try and hijack the religion of islam. how do you propose to counteract that? we really need to go beyond condemnation and solidarity. we need to directly attack people who justify violence in the name of faith. once we start to do that, in the social media, they are using means that are not available many years ago. we need to do something about sectarianism, about extremism, the same way we dealt with slavery, the same way we dealt with slavery, the same way we dealt with slavery, the same way we dealt with racism, we need to have governments are serious. western governments, who are serious about resolving this problem. notjust are serious about resolving this problem. not just addressing the symptoms, and leaving the root causes, so we need more
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symptoms, and leaving the root causes, so we need more serious work in terms of satellite broadcasts, social media, and other ways. what message do you have for members of the moslem community in terms of talking to the police? —— tee one. —— muslim. do you believe that members of the muslim community feel able to do that? yes, i feel so yes. every individual and every citizen, everybody is entitled to reports to the police if they have anything that will help to prevent such a thing from happening again. or to help actually the investigations today running today. if you will allow me to add one thing, we have a double problem now. these actions which are in the name of islam in some people's mind. they are unfortunately, very small and not the community themselves. this will
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affect the rise in islamophobia which is also another problem which will try to make more fractions within the society. the problem is doubled. we need to address this. to say, with the government, we should really work together to face islamophobia which is coming, also. also anti—semitism which is coming as well. they give very much. really as well. they give very much. really a very strong message coming from my two gu ests a very strong message coming from my two guests there saying that the voices of condemnation from within the muslim community for acts of terror carried out in the name of their religion must really be condemned with loud voices talking about working with their communities to counteract the terrorist messages coming across on social media. for the moment, it is back to the studio. the man believed to be
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responsible for the attack in westminster yesterday has been named as khalid masood. he died in the attack. he was not the subject of any current police investigations, that he had a range of previous investigations —— prosecutions for assault. he was living in the west midlands, born in kent. his three victims pc keith parker, asia frayed and the american kurt cochrane. in the last few minutes, a tweet from donald trump. he said his prayers and condolences are with his family and condolences are with his family and friends. his wife being treated in hospital, her injuries are not believed to be serious. they were celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary. —— asia frayed. that's catch up with the weather. the
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weekend is fast approaching and there is some good news on the weather front. the weather is going to turn more settled and it is already starting to behave itself across the country to day, but one or two of us still are stuck under the cloud. there are bits and pieces of rain. already, the vast majority of rain. already, the vast majority of the uk is enjoying fine weather. this rain is going to hang around for a little while. the cloud associated with it, it will roll out, rolled back down towards the south, out of the way, but in the short term, if southwest parts of england, central, southern england which are still under the influence of that. it will be dying away eventually, but with it, cloud and rain and quite strong winds. the weather will be a lot quieter than the far north of the country. north and central is not them. the northwest, —— scotland. the further west you are, cloudy it will be. the winds really are quite strong. it feels on the chilly side. a lack of
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sunshine, temperatures around six or seven 8 degrees. that will be particularly chilly. a different story across northern england. lower temperatures. the winds are lighter. we have got more sunshine. actually, it probably feels more pleasant. through the morning, into the afternoon, that strong —ish wind will push the clouds away. will break up. the last place to see the clouds break up will be southwest areas. friday is looking pretty good. friday evening, big sort of elongated area of high pressure anchors itself across the uk. it is here to stay for the weekend. here saturday's weather forecast. you see that. right out into the atlantic. the lows in the south of it. we are in that window of opportunity window of fine weather. saturday, nice day. however, as promised breeze which blows the hive. it might be pretty
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chilly around the eastern coasts. norwich could only be 10 degrees. clouds will come and go. overall, certainly looking like a settled speu certainly looking like a settled spell of weather. notjust certainly looking like a settled spell of weather. not just through this weekend, but also into early next week and then through next week. it will tend to go downhill just a bit. goodbye. you're watching bbc news. i'm annita mcveigh live outside scotland yard, where police have named the man believed to be behind yesterday's terror attack as 52—year—old khalid masood. he was born in kent but lived in the west midlands,
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and he was known to m15. the so—called islamic state group has claimed responsibility. the third victim of the attack is named as kurt cochran, a us tourist in london to celebrate his anniversary. ayesha frade and pc keith palmer were also killed. all three of them were parents. donald trump tweets to offer his prayers and condolences to kurt cochrane, calling him a "great american."
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