tv 100 Days BBC News March 23, 2017 7:00pm-7:46pm GMT
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hello and welcome to a special edition of one hundred days. i'm christian fraser live in westminster. our headlines: police name the suspect behind wednesday's terror attack here as 52—year—old khalid masood. what i can confirm is that the man was british—born and that some years ago, he was once investigated by m15 in relation to concerns about violent extremism. tributes in parliament, a moment's silence is held for the victims, an american tourist, a mother, and a policeman killed in the line of duty. eight people are arrested in raids across london and birmingham, so—called islamic state says one of its soldiers carried out the attack. i'm katty kay in washington. here in the us, the british foreign secretary attends an anti—islamic state summit and at the un, rallies world partners to defeat terrorism. our values are superior, our view of the world is better and more generous
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and our will is stronger. in the shadow of big ben, politicians and people of all faiths attend a vigil, three candles are lit for each of the victims of the westminster attack. and berlin's brandenburg gate is bathed in the union flag as cities around the world show solidarity with london. it has been a sombre, reflective day at the palace of westminster. we are on the edge of the peace corps in which is still in place as we speak. the police are still concluding the final investigation. it has been a sombre, reflective day at the palace of westminster. the thoughts of everyone remain
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with the family of the murdered policeman keith palmer and two other people killed as they walked across westminster bridge yesterday afternoon. in total 29 people were injured, among them 13 nationalities, several we are told remain in a critical condition. this morning, parliament paused for a minutes silence in the chamber. the queen expressed her sympathies for those killed and in the past hour hundreds of people have gathered for a vigil in trafalgar square, just a short walk away. candles were lit for the three victims who lost their lives, with many more lit among the crowd. we know much more about the man suspected of carrying out the attack. khaled massood, a 52—year—old british man from kent, he had a number of previous convictions for violence, and he was on the periphery of a terror investigation some years ago, though he was not currently on the radar of the security services. this evening the police said that eight people, three women and five men, have been arrested in london and birmingham on suspicion of preparation of terrorist acts. let s get our first report from our
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special correspondent, lucy manning. with a car and a knife, he brought terror to parliament. he is the lead masood, a british—born attacker, known to the police with a 20 year criminal record, though not for terrorism. the 52—year—old responsible for the murder of a policeman, a mother on her way to collect the children and. the lead masood was born in kent and was most recently living in the west midlands. he had a range of previous convictions including gb huge, possession of offensive weapons and public order offences. his last conviction was in 2003 for possession of a knife. he was also known by a number of aliases and he was known to security services. what ican was known to security services. what i can confirm is that the man was
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british—born and that some years ago he was once investigated by mi5 in relation to concerns about violent extremism. he was a peripheral figure. the case is historic. he was not part of the current intelligence picture. there was no prior intelligence of his intent or of the plot. intensive investigations continue. just metres from where the prime minister spoke, on their knees, police slowly, meticulously searching for evidence on the same ground where one of their own lay just yesterday to stop determined to find out everything they can about the man who murdered pc keith palmer in the shadow of the then and ran over those are just walking on westminster bridge. notjust routine police work, this time, it is personal. across the country, overnight, police swung into action. a flat in birmingham was raided.
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neighbours said they thought masood lived there recently. also in birmingham, in the ladywood area, filmed by neighbours, heavily armed officers searched another flat. locals said it was like a scene from the film. like a war. down the street, like something you only see in movies. i saw it from behind my windows on the street. it was very frightening. it was like, what the hell is happening here? as well as searches in birmingham police also raided homes and made arrests in the forest gate area of east london. in wales, surrey and sussex, a total of eight people have been arrested in six separate locations. it is now known the people he turned into a weapon was a rental car he retired in birmingham in the spring hill branch of enterprise cards. there
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has been intense police activity all day in birmingham. with the attacker dead, the focus is on his friends and family, whether they knew about his motivations, his intentions, whether he had only help with the attack on parliament. it is still oui’ attack on parliament. it is still our belief, which is point out about oui’ our belief, which is point out about our investigation, that the attacker acted alone and was inspired by international terrorism. to be explicit, at this stage, we have no significant information about further threat to the public. so—called islamic state, without providing any evidence, and the attacker was, as they described him, one of their soldiers. the police are now attracting masood's movements. the man who put into a carand movements. the man who put into a car and drove terror into the heart of westminster. there is a lot of discussion about
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the investigation. each of these stories about the victims seems heartbreaking. a lot of people have spoken about how london must pick itself up and get on with it. we will do that, because we have been here before, but there is heartfelt sadness for the three victims. in terrorist attacks are always tragic stories but particularly so in this insta nce stories but particularly so in this instance because you have a mother who was crossing the bridge were going to pick up her daughters who we re going to pick up her daughters who were waiting in a school. i am a father, you can imagine what it must be like for children to be working there for the mother who doesn't arrive. kurt cochran and his wife, melissa, who worked at the end of a vacation. they probably spent a lot of money on it, they had been around europe, they came here to see her pa rents europe, they came here to see her parents who are working in london. they are mormon missionaries. they we re they are mormon missionaries. they were due to go back today and then, of course, the story of pc keith palmer, he gave his life to service
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in the royal artillery and then in the metropolitan police. when eve ryo ne the metropolitan police. when everyone was running away from the violence, he was running towards it and without a weapon. just selfless bravery which is sad indeed, when you reflect on what happened to him. londoners will get on with it but in the mind of everybody as they make their way home, they will be thinking especially of those three people. let's speak to our security correspondent, frank gardner. we are learning more about coloured masood. not a typical profile, quite old and he has not been inside since 2003. yes, unusual. he was known to the police and mi5, but he was not an anti—terror watch list. he had an extensive record for petty crime, mainly for violent assault, possession of a knife, grievous bodily harm, but he had not been in trouble with the law since 2003. he
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was peripheral. he was not an anti—terror watch list. that is quite worrying because there will be many others like him. he was relatively old for a jihadist, 52. it is not unheard of. there was somebody who blew himself up in iraq, the britishjihadist, if you weeks ago and he was 51. generally, most jihadists weeks ago and he was 51. generally, mostjihadists are in their weeks ago and he was 51. generally, most jihadists are in their teens and 205. most jihadists are in their teens and 20s. we had this situation yesterday where we had 68 nations meeting here in washington, promising to commit themselves to try and eradicate the threat from islamic terrorism. what have these these terms like soldier of islamic state and we don't know what that means, that shows just how difficult it is, doesn't it? that is islamic state digging itself up. it is possible they didn't know about this and there were no actual communications between islamic state
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and this man. it is possible that a posthumous video, in martyrdom video, will appear afterwards. he does seem to have largely acted on his own. there is no such thing as a completely lone wolf attack. there will be digital footprints. gchq will be digital footprints. gchq will be digital footprints. gchq will be looking into what is encrypted on his computer to work out who he had been in touch with and who he had met. forensics will look at the fingerprints in the car to see who else had been in it. he isa to see who else had been in it. he is a strange character. born in kent in south—east england, he lived in luton which has been described as a hotbed of islamic fundamentalism, where some people referred to him as the vampire because neighbours said he would always go out only at night and dressed in black. the body is suggesting he drank blood, but he was a strange character, very conflicted and this is a very typical. a large number ofjihadists attackers have a criminal or violent
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records that have nothing to do with terrorism and it is hard to spot them. thank you frank. the british foreign secretary, boris johnson them. thank you frank. the british foreign secretary, borisjohnson has been here in the us since tuesday attending the meeting of the coalition against so—called islamic state. this morning, he appeared on msnbc‘s morning joe where i spoke to him about the attack. the prime minister said something interesting which points to a problem with intelligence services, which is that this figure had been peripheral in previous investigations, but was not currently part of any intelligence investigations. it is hard, isn't it? intelligence services have to prioritise and they clearly did not prioritise and they clearly did not prioritise this individual. it has happened before with the leader of the 7-7 happened before with the leader of the 7—7 attacks who was under surveillance and then it wasn't under surveillance, how do we make those choices? i understand where you are going with this. this is not something i can get into. suffice it to say, we have, in london, as is
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almost certainly the case in new york and many other great metropolises, there are a number of people who are under surveillance, people who are under surveillance, people who are objects of concern. the important thing to realise is that the kind of extremism that they espouse is dangerous, it all too often espouse is dangerous, it all too ofte n lea ds espouse is dangerous, it all too often leads to their involvement, or there would be involvement in terrorist acts. i am afraid they require a huge amount of surveillance, of monitoring and they move up and down the hierarchy of risk. the foreign secretary sounded like i was trying to criticism. it is far too early to know whether the security services demand some kind of criticism. what i was 20 point out is that it is almost impossible,
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with the resources that intelligence agencies have and equally self, to monitor everybody permanently good comes on their radar. as frank pointed out, this is not an obvious candidate and he had been off the radarfor candidate and he had been off the radar for a candidate and he had been off the radarfor a long time. these are difficult choices for all western nations to make. absolutely. as a former paris correspondent when i was in france, the french authorities said this all the time. they had thousands of people on there at risk list. the people they thought were a risk to french society and they couldn't monitor them all times. they have to pick those who are the biggest risk of one particular moment and some drop off the list, dropped off the radar and come back on them. i have seen that happen. i can also think of two incidents, one in 2014, similar to this. a man was shouting is slogans out of the window, injured 13 people and he was not, in the strictest
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sense, a trained islamicjihadist. he had not been to syria, he was not a soldier of islam, if you will, he was someone a soldier of islam, if you will, he was someone who a soldier of islam, if you will, he was someone who was a soldier of islam, if you will, he was someone who was deranged, suffered from depression. the same was true of the man in nice. he suffered from depression, a loner, broken relationships, petty crime and it looks, and there is a lot we need to find out, but it looks like the masood might 50s in profile. that is difficult to tackle, especially when they are not using conventional weapons. there are times intelligence services do make m ista kes times intelligence services do make mistakes and we will open them up to scrutiny, but it is worth recognising that these are incredibly difficult choices that have to be made with limited resources . have to be made with limited resources. absolutely. you have to have a discussion within countries about how much you put into security and how you close your society. we respect and like the fact that it is free here, especially in this
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village in westminster where people can go into parliament. how much security do you around it will be a debate for the weeks and months to come. emotions here have been running high within the uk parliament. mps paid tribute to those who died, including police constable, keith palmer. there was a personal response from an mp who once served with pc palmer in the armed forces. the prime minister theresa may said, we will never waver in the face of terrorism . the streets are as busy as ever, the offices of food, copy shops and cafes bustling. as i speak, millions will be boarding trains and aeroplanes to travel to london and see for themselves the greatest city on earth. it is in these actions, millions of acts of normality that we find the best response to terrorism. a response that denies our enemies their victory, that refuses to let them win, that shows we will never give in. a response
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driven by that same spirit that drove a husband and father to put himself between us and our attacker and to pay the ultimate price. himself between us and our attacker and to pay the ultimate pricelj would like to turn for a moment to pc keith, who i first met 25 years ago has gone keith palmer at headquarters battery, royal artillery. he was a strong, professional public servant. it was a delight to meeting here again only a delight to meeting here again only a few months after being elected. wood my right honourable friend, the prime minister, in recognition of the work that he did and the other police officers and public servants here in the house do to consider recognising his gallantry and
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sacrifice formally a posthumous recognition? well, i thank my honourable friend for the obvious compassion and passion with which he has spoken about an individual eu and he bears witness to the tremendous public service that keith palmer had given this country in so many ways. having served in our armed forces and then come here to this place and paid the ultimate sacrifice here at our heart of democracy. i can assure my honourable friend that the issue he has raised is one that will be considered in due course. a difficult day for many mps today. they were locked down for hours yesterday at not knowing what was going on and the palace. let me introduce you to harriet harmon, former deputy leader of the labour
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party. he spoke today at the debate. tell us what your thoughts are tonight. we all felt very sad indeed for the pc who lost his life defending us, keeping us safe and our heartfelt sympathy goes to his family. also, isn't that the house of commons had to be business as usual. we were not going to let this crime prevent us doing ourjob and fear and concern about the people who are still lying in hospital, but a sense that, as an act of terror, this is field. as a crank killed and injured people and it was a horrific crime. people will still, as they are tonight, go about their business in london. there has been a lot of focus about courage he just behind this at the foot of the then. he managed to get through the gate. it isa managed to get through the gate. it is a busy gate. you are the longest serving woman in the commons and i said that because you will have seen
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over the years how secure —— how security has changed. are you happy with security as it is tonight? in 1982 when i first became a member of parliament there was no system of passes, there was no security at all. people would just walk in and out. that might be one or two police on the doorjust to show the public where they could go to see their mp and then there were the ira threats, so there was security raised then and then there was al-qaeda. 0ver the years, the security has been increased. very reluctantly anyway, because one thing parliament values is its relationship with the public and its accessibility. there would be sensible, thorough review of this awful crime and there will be sensible precautionary measures. we are going to carry on going on with our business. we also value the fact that our policemen did not carry weapons. we are different to the united states. this is an area of
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london disposed of risk. this is one of the main targets in the country, so should these policemen just behind us, shouldn't they be armed? some of them are armed and some work without weapons as pc, was unharmed. there would be a discussion within the metropolitan police and with the home office about where the balance lies. that is something that will have to be considered. harriet harman, it is give you to come, we will let you go and warm. in all, three people were killed by the attacker, pc palmer, an american tourist identified today as kurt cochran from utah and aysha frade, who lived in london with her two young daughters and husband. many others were injured. some who are still in a critical condition, as sarah campbell reports. a mother on the school run, mown down in broad daylight. aysha frade was 43 years old and leaves behind a husband and two young daughters. friends and neighbours have been paying tribute to her. she was just a lovely person
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with two lovely children. two lovely, lovely girls. how are these children? they've lost their mother. you leave your kids, you took them to school to go and pick them up and now this has happened to you. she worked as a college near westminster bridge and was on her way to pick up her children when the attack happened. she was a lovely person. helpful, supportive, smiley, always willing to help out with whatever the challenges and demands that teaching staff may have at any given time. aysha's mother was spanish. and today, she was remembered by people in the galician city of betanzos. her family are understood to be travelling to britain. in london, celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary, melissa and kurt cochran from utah in the united states. they were due to fly home today but instead, kurt was killed and melissa was left seriously injured.
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this afternoon, president trump described kurt as a great american. the people who were injured came from 11 different countries, including the united states, china, france and germany. they were taken from westminster to hospitals across london, including here, at king's college. undergoing treatment for a fractured leg is 19—year—old travis frain. he was with fellow politics students on a field trip to parliament when he was hit head—on by the car. he was pictured as emergency crews stretchered him away from the scene. waiting for news inside the locked down parliament building was his tutorfrom edge hill university. she told me today that travis is doing well. he's been checking his facebook. lots of messages from other students wanting to know how he is. clearly, he's not well, but he's dealing with it and he's staying as cheerful as he can. another school trip caught up in the chaos. three students from this school in brittany were injured.
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two of them are reported to have suffered serious fractures. the french foreign minister travelled to london to visit them. it's a new tragedy. i wanted to stop first, to say a message to the british people. a message of solidarity. romanian officials say a woman understood to be andreea cristea who fell into the thames has undergone surgery to treat a blood clot on her brain. the boyfriend, andrei burnaz sustained a broken foot. they'd been celebrating his birthday. several people remain in hospital including two police officers with serious injuries. this was an attack in london but its effects are being felt across the world. a vigil has been held tonight in trafalgar square, just a short distance from where i am now. three
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candles were lit for the victims of the attack. 0ur correspondent is therefore is. the acting commissioner of the metropolitan police, keith mackie, spoke. he was here on a routine called westminster yesterday. they we re called westminster yesterday. they were three very moving speeches here to several rounds of applause. sadiq khan, the mayor of london invited londoners and visitors to come here to trafalgar square, just minutes away from where the incident happened in westminster. as you can see behind me, people have been laying candles and flowers to pay their respects to those who have died and ingratitude for those who have helped. they have turned up in their hundreds. people from all corners of the globe, all walks of life, of all ages. there are reasons have been varied. i spoke to one young lady earlier he said she lost a friend in the attack and she was very close by. she had to come for
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some closure and to pay her respects. another young man i spoke to said he was too young to remember the incidence of 7—7, this was the first time this had really come and he needed to come here some of london could stand together and, indeed, it did stand in unity tonight. thank you very much. it wasn't just london tonight. thank you very much. it wasn'tjust london that stayed with the people, then the attack. we saw at the brandenburg gate in berlin, this is the scene from berlin. let up this is the scene from berlin. let up in the union flag. they are breaking the heart of germany. there was one german injured in the attack, the enormous solidarity from the world. you are watching a special edition of 100 days from bbc news. we will have more from london and washington for our international viewers injust a and washington for our international viewers in just a few minutes. we
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are infora viewers in just a few minutes. we are in for a spell of settled weather this weekend. it is looking promising on saturday and sunday. but today has not been completely dry across south—western parts of the uk. there was some rain. 0ver the uk. there was some rain. 0ver the next 24 hours, the low pressure that has brought the rain, hit and miss for a couple of days, it will finally pulled away. this is the rain bearing club in the south—west. it is rotating and pushing them towards the south—west. temporarily this weather front, out of fronts might nip the south coast. anywhere from portsmouth westward we could have some rain. the vast majority of the country tonight should have a drying out. cold as well. the sky is clearing and in scotland and northern ireland there is a good chance of a frost. let's have a look at the forecast for the morning. a little bit of rain in cornwall, devon, somerset. further eastand north, more cloutier. the cold will be finished. the further north you
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90, be finished. the further north you go, we get into sunshine in north—western england. a nice start to the day in liverpool, york, kendal, into belfast and the scottish lowlands. a bit cold. glasgow only two celsius. you have the sunshine and the wind with the likes of it would feel too bad. through the easterly wind should push away the cloud, bridget of a little bit. it should be tried by the end of the afternoon. still on the end of the afternoon. still on the countryside, especially the north sea coasts with the wind, have the east, it will feel chilly in norwich. the high—pressure sticks around through friday night and the whole weekend. lots of settled weather on the way. this high will not hang around for ever. it will last until tuesday and then the low pressure will come in. until then, let's enjoy this big high with wind circling around. they will be light, there will be sunshine, if you feel warm, up to 50 degrees. around the
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east coast, where they get a breeze around the periphery it will be a little bit cooler. into monday, variable cloud, but overall it should stay dry across the majority of the uk. that summarise that. for the weekend and beyond, in the next week, lots of settled weather, warm sunshine and a touch of frost early in the morning. goodbye. this is bbc news. the headlines. scotla nd this is bbc news. the headlines. scotland yard has named the man behind the terror attack yesterday as 52—year—old khalid masood, born in kentand as 52—year—old khalid masood, born in kent and he was known to security services. so—called islamic state has claimed responsibility. eight people were arrested in overnight raids in birmingham. the police investigation continues. the third victim of the attack has been named as kurt cochran, a us tourist in
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london to celebrate his silver wedding anniversary. spanish teacher ays ha wedding anniversary. spanish teacher aysha frade and pc keith palmer were also killed. thousands of people have gathered this evening for a vigil in trafalgar square, holding a minute's silence in memory of those who died. the mayor of london, sadiq khan, led the tributes. police in london said eight people arrested after a deadly attack on parliament on wednesday are being held under suspicion of preparing terrorist acts. searches involving hundreds of detectives are being carried out in london, birmingham and wales. a vigil is being held in london in honour of the victims. crowds attending were told that the evil and twisted acts of terrorism would be defeated. religious leaders, residents, police and politicians gathered at the candlelit vigil in trafalgar square which was led by the mayor of london, sadiq khan. 0ur
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colleague sophie raworth was at the vigil and spoke to sadiq khan. there are thousands of people here are jeff albert square. many of them we re jeff albert square. many of them were on their way home from work —— in trafalgar square. and others had come from many miles away to be here to show support for those who died in the attack yesterday and those who were so terribly injured. the home secretary was here, we have heard from faith leaders, and the mayor of london, sadiq khan, made an open invitation this morning for people to come here and join in this vigil. he is here with me now. what have you made of the turnout? this shows that we, as a city, will not allow evil, twisted individuals to divide our city and to destroy our shared values and way of life. many londoners and visitors wanted to do something today, horrified by the attack yesterday. and today's vigil when you have thousands of visitors
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and londoners demonstrates the best of our city. and as much as evil, twisted individuals may seek to destroy our way of life and attack out destroy our way of life and attack our shared values, they are not going to succeed. i was talking to some of the police here this evening. a police officer lost his life yesterday. people have been hugging the police and giving them cards and flowers here tonight and saying thank you. one of the most remarkable things about yesterday was how the police and the emergency services ran towards danger to help, encouraging others to run for safety. and that exemplifies our police services and emergency services. pc keith palmer died, protecting our city, protecting londoners. it is important to recognise that, every day, police office rs recognise that, every day, police officers leave home to go to work, knowing that they could well be injured, seriously, and ultimately could pay the price of their life.
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and our hearts are with the family of notjust kirin parmar but also ays ha of notjust kirin parmar but also aysha frade and kurt cochran, who lost their lives, and also those who have been injured, the victims who are from all corners of the world. the mayor of london speaking to sophie bray web. the prime minister has but to some of the attack victims in hospital. at least two other people were killed yesterday. ays ha other people were killed yesterday. aysha frade lived in london with her husband and daughters in london. american kurt cochran was in london with his wife celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary. 40 people were injured. sarah campbell reports now on the victims. a mother on the school run, mown down in broad daylight. aysha frade was 43 years old and leaves behind a husband and smudge on daughters. friends and
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neighbours have pay tribute to her. she was just neighbours have pay tribute to her. she wasjust a neighbours have pay tribute to her. she was just a lovely person with two lovely children, two lovely, lovely girls. these children, they have lost their mother. you leave your kids, you drop them to school, your kids, you drop them to school, you go to pick them up and now this has happened to you. she worked at a couege has happened to you. she worked at a college near westminster bridge and was on her way to pick up her children when the attack happened. she was a lovely person. helpful, supportive, smiling, always willing to help out with whatever the challenges and demands that pitching staff might have at any given time. her mother was spanish. today she was remembered by people in the galician city, and herfamily are travelling to britain. in london to celebrate their 20th wedding anniversary, melissa and kurt cochran from you and the united
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states. kurt was killed and melissa was left seriously injured. this afternoon president trump described kurt cochran as a great american. the people injured came from 11 different countries, including the united states, china, france and germany. they were taken from westminster to hospitals across london, including here at king's college. undergoing treatment for a fractured leg is 19—year—old travis frain. he was with fellow politics stu d e nts frain. he was with fellow politics students on a field trip to parliament when he was hit head—on by the car. he was pictured as emergency crews stretch at him from the scene. waiting for news inside the scene. waiting for news inside the locked down parliament building was his tutor from the locked down parliament building was his tutorfrom edge hill university. she told me today that travis is doing well. he has been checking his facebook also lots of m essa 9 es checking his facebook also lots of messages from other students wanting to know how he is. he is not well, but he is dealing with it and he's being as cheerful as he can. another school trip caught up in the chaos.
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three students from this school in brittany waters injured, two of them reported to have suffered serious fractures. the french foreign minister travelled to london to visit them. i was on my way to paris but i wanted to stop to london first to say a message to the british people a message of solidarity. romanian official said at a woman under state to be andreea cristea fell into the thames and has undergone surgery to treat a blood clot on the brink. her boyfriend sustained a broken foot. they had been celebrating his birthday. several people remain in hospital including two police officers with serious injuries. this was an attack in london but its effects are being felt across the world. police have named the attacker as 52—year—old khalid masood, who was born in kent and had recently been living in the
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west midlands. police say there was no intelligence about his intent to mount a terrorist attack, but he had a range of convictions for assault, including gbh and possession of offensive weapons. the police raided a flat in birmingham and the rest to people in connection with the attack. we know that last night this flat behind me was raided. police stormed in, some of them armed, and three men left the premises with the police. we have learned today that those men were arrested. we have been told by a restaurant owner from next the flat, who owns a flat, and he said that these three men were renting it even though he did live with a word, because the renting process had gone through the letting agency rather than through him. he also said, the gentleman who owns a restau ra nt also said, the gentleman who owns a restaurant next to the flat, that he isa restaurant next to the flat, that he is a muslim and that he just wanted to condemn the attacks and to say
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that muslims do not believe that violence is right and islam does not stand for violence. what is key at the moment, what i am feeling from immersing myself in the community here in birmingham, that there is a palpable anger, if you like, among some muslims who are worried about what is coming out at the moment, that it what is coming out at the moment, thatitis what is coming out at the moment, that it is going to cast doubt over them once again. i was speaking to a woman over there. she described herself as an orthodox muslim. she said she did not want to talk about this, but i am angry, i am angry about the way this is being handled and how we are being painted with the same brush. there is a real feeling of them anger at the moment here in birmingham. doctor brett rogers is a serious that mac is an expert in the department of risk and war studies and a social psychologist specialising in the psychology of radicalisation and the impact of terrorism and currently
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researching loan actor extremist events. shejoins us by webcam. let's talk about the psychology of this and the roots of radicalisation. when and where does it happen and what kind of people are prone to it? i have to say that there are many academics doing case studies around the world. they have fairly similar elements, and the outcome we find with researchers at the pathway is different for everyone. there are a few different trends that we see in terms of identity issues. in the past we would have said we would expect to see younger men engaging in acts of terror, but that profile is changing in terms of age. we hear that the families of those involved in attacks like this are so surprised that someone they are supposed to be close to could have concealed so much from them. how do they manage
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to be so secretive? again, that is changing as well. we are finding that the pace of radicalisation, which used to be a slower process, with more face—to—face engagement, the pace has actually become quite variable. some people are still going through the process in stages in quitea going through the process in stages in quite a marked and slow way, others are radicalising quite quickly. sometimes through face—to—face contact but also sometimes using the internet in order to access the information. if we think about an individual using the internet, they might be radicalising online, in their bedroom, and not having conversations with members of the public. the guidance around that is that even if they are radicalising online, they often share information in terms of expressing extreme views on websites and in web chat, etc, so there are some leakages, we call
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them, that can be found. the group, islamic state, have said that they regard this man as one of their soldiers. a lot of work will be done looking into his contacts and background and the influences on khalid masood, but how alone is a lone actor at any time three radu us have some kind of support and involvement by others, even if it is indirect. in terms of not having any truant arrangement with an individual either online or in the physical world, that is very rare. we tend to see that they are having conversations with other people, evenif conversations with other people, even if that conversation is taking place in the virtual world, it is still a conversation, it can still impact their identity and
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motivation. so a pure lone actor is rare. we do tend to see that they are following guidance, even if they have accessed that guidance themselves. when he is being referred to as a soldier, that is suggesting that he did not have direct guidance from the hierarchy, of those high in it. there must be, from what you are saying, degrees of involvement with a wider group network, in terms of whether you are physically or financially or commissioned to carry out an atrocity. i don't think that money needs to change hands, if we look at the simplicity of this attack. he could have accessed information online. there have been calls for leaderless jihad were individual seize the day and take the action into their own hands and identify the opportunity and decide the weapons that they are going to use. we have seen that in a magazine that
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is illegal to download in the uk. a few years ago, there was... a few years ago, there was... we appreciate you talking to us, doctor brooke rogers from the king college, london. a remainder of the headlines this evening. thousands of londoners gathered for a vigil in trafalgar square. three candles were lit for each of the victims of the westminster attack. police have identified the attacker as 52—year—old khalid masood, who was born in kent and was known to security services. the three victims had been named as kurt cochran, a us tourist in london to celebrate his silver wedding anniversary, spanish
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teacher aysha frade, and pc keith palmer. 0ther teacher aysha frade, and pc keith palmer. other news. in other news, the funeral of the former ira commander and northern ireland deputy first minister, martin mcguinness, has taken place in londonderry this afternoon. his coffin was carried through the streets and thousands attended the funeral. the former us president bill clinton was there. so, too, was arlene foster, the democratic unionist party leader. mr mcguinness died on tuesday. he'd been suffering from a rare heart condition. 0ur ireland correspondent chris buckler reports. this is a place that makes a point of remembering. through the large crowds, martin mcguinness' body was carried, past the paintings that detailed the divisive history that he lived through, through the bogside. a past which shaped him. it was also a time of violence for which some will always hold him
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