hello, it's friday, it's 9am, i'm joanna gosling — welcome to the programme. more details emerge of the man who carried out the westminster terror attack. khalid masood was born adrian russell ajao in dartford, in kent. we'll ask how the 52—year—old was converted to radical islam. in the past hour, police say they've made two further significant arrests overnight and are trawling through massive amounts of computer data. they urge the public to help them. we've had contact with about 3500 witnesses, including 1000 people from westminster bridge, and about 2500 who were within the parliamentary estate. an american tourist posts a picture of murdered police officer keith palmer, taken less than an hour before he died, as police name the 75—year—old man who died from his injuries last night as leslie rhodes from south london. i'm ben brown life at westminster, where all the roads now have

reopened for the first time since the attack. i will have the latest on the fast—moving police investigation into what happened here. hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until ”am this morning. we'll have the very latest on the aftermath of wednesday's terror attacks throughout the programme this morning. one person who rushed to the aid of victims on westminster bridge speaks to us for the first time. we'll also hear from seniorfaith leaders. plus people caught up in the terror attacks in nice, paris, berlin and brussels tell us how they coped afterwards. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning — use the hashtag #victorialive. if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. first let's get the latest from my colleague ben brown, who's in westminster this morning. in the last hour, police

investigating the attack here at westminster have revealed that they have made two further significant arrests overnight, so nine people are now in custody altogether, one woman has been released, we hear, on bail. a fourth victim, meanwhile, who died last night has been named by the police as 75—year—old leslie rhodes, he was from streatham in south london. scotland yard's acting deputy commissioner mark rowley said the attacker, khalid masood, had been born adrian russell ajao. with the latest, here is jane francis kelly. this photo is thought to have been taken of pc keith palmerjust 45 minutes before he died. the american tourist scene with him was at westminster prior to the attack and askedif westminster prior to the attack and asked if she could pose with the opposite. 0ther victims of the attack were aysha frade, a mother of two. also an american tourist, kurt

cochran. police have also confirmed another man has died. sadly last night another man died in hospital as a result of the injury sustained during the attack. whilst we await formal identification, we believe that he is leslie rhodes, aged 75, from streatham in south london. my thoughts are with his family at this time. furthermore, two people remain in hospital in what is described as critical condition, and one person is considered to have life—threatening injuries. the man responsible for the deaths was 52—year—old khalid masood, his birth name adrian russell ajao. he was born in kent and most recently lived in the west midlands. he had a range of previous convictions including gbh, possessing of offensive weapons, and public order offences. his last conviction was in 2003 for possession of a knife. he was also known under a number of aliases and was known to the security services. police said

overnight there were two significant arrests in the west midlands and northwest, nine people are in custody, one woman has been released on bail. they appealed for information. anyone who knew khalid masood well, anyone who understands who his associates were, anyone who can provide information about the places he has recently visited. there might well be people out there who did have concerns about masood but weren't sure all didn't feel co mforta ble but weren't sure all didn't feel comfortable for whatever reason in passing that information to us. i now urge anyone with such information to callers. the attack has reverberated across the world, but it was an attack at the heart of british democracy. shots show the prime minister being led away to safety by her security team, the scene of uncertainty. it was still unclear what had gone on outside the gates of westminster. last night the police, politicians and faith leadersjoined police, politicians and faith leaders joined thousands of people in trafalgar square, with the message that terrorism and fear will

not prevail. we have had more details, as you we re we have had more details, as you were hearing, about the police investigation, including news that they have made two more significant arrests as they told us this morning. let's get the latest from the metropolitan police headquarters at scotland yard with our correspondent alexander mackenzie is there. yes, we had that update just under an hourago yes, we had that update just under an hour ago from acting deputy commissioner mark rowley. he came out and spoke just behind me commissioner mark rowley. he came out and spokejust behind me here, and initially paid tribute to those who died. he named 75—year—old leslie rhodes from south london, and he gave us an update also on those in hospital, as we said two people critical, one person still have life—threatening injuries. he also mentioned another two police officers who had been taken to hospital, they remain in hospital with significant injuries. he said

in total 50 people required hospital attention. then he went on to focus on the attacker, khalid masood. his birth name, adrian russell ajao. what he said is that the investigation will focus on how and when he came to be radicalised. the words that he used, he wanted information, they are trying to piece together this picture on his motivation, his preparation, and also his associates. so he called for anyone with any information, anyone who knew him at all, to come forward and speak to police. he also mentioned the two arrests, his words we re mentioned the two arrests, his words were there were two significant arrests overnight, there had previously been eight, one woman has been released on bail. he also spoke about the number of people who have already come forward, more than 3000 people have already come forward

with witness details. he didn't go into detail as to what they have come forward with, but he said it was a significant amount of people who have come forward. he also talked about security at parliament, he said that would be reviewed, although he made the point that parliament is a tourist attraction, it is open to visitors, but in light of what happened they would have to review security there. but he very much said that london is open for business, and he made the point that armed officers were patrolling london at double strength at this point. alexandra thank you very much indeed. armed police have raided several properties in birmingham in connection to the attack here at westminster. let's cross to our correspondent kathryn stanczyszyn, who is in birmingham for us this morning. we know that birmingham is a centre of police interest in this case, partly because the assailant hired the beer call that he used in the

attack there in birmingham. yes, that is correct, and those two significant arrests that police have updated in the last hour, one of those was made overnight here in the west midlands as well, one in the north—west, and seven of the arrests yesterday were made here in the west midlands as well. as you say, we know that the car used on the westminster bridge attack was actually hired from a rental centre around five minutes from where i am now on hagley road. this is where the activity was focused first here in birmingham on wednesday night, a flat behind me was raided by armed officers. the activity then moved to a flat about five minutes away where it is believed the attacker actually lived for some time, neighbours shocked to recognise khalid masood in photographs, saying that they believed he had been living in a house there up until around two

months ago. the car rental centre is just a short walk from there and bbc sources have told us they believe he actually hired that car directly himself. this has been a huge police operation, searches have spanned a big geographical area, sussex, london, here in the west midlands and in wales as well, but of course the prevalence of the arrests made here in birmingham have led people to talk about whether the city has a problem with radicalisation, some of the press describing birmingham as a terror hotspot this morning. of course, the vast majority of muslims say this is not even in the same universe as their fate, and of course the birmingham faith leaders network has put out a statement saying, we completely reject any opportunity to blame any faith in the city for the perverted actions of one individual, and indeed a special unity pigem is going to be

held in birmingham on the high street at 5pm today, that has been organised by the muslim engagement network and stand up to racism jointly, they say they want to pay tribute to the victims of the attack but also show all communities in birmingham are standing together. thank you very much indeed. last night, police said a 75—year—old man had died after being hit by the car. it takes the number of victims to four. in terms of casualties, police said 50 people were injured in all and two are still in a critical condition. let's get the latest on those casualties. my colleague fiona lamdin is at kings college hospital in central london. yes, iam yes, i am about three miles from where the attack took place, you can see the police still here regarding the hospital, very sad news came in

last night that 75—year—old leslie rhodes from streatham, not far from here, died here at the hospital last night, which takes the number of victims to ball who died following the attacks, so we now know leslie rhodes, pc keith palmer, the police officer who was protecting parliament who was stabbed, aysha frade, who was on her way to pick up a two children from school, and kurt cochran, the us tourist who was here celebrating his 25th wedding anniversary. the hospital told us on wednesday afternoon, they brought eight victims here to kings college hospital, we know that one is still ina hospital, we know that one is still in a critical condition, two people we re in a critical condition, two people were allowed home yesterday which must have been a huge relief to theirfamily, so must have been a huge relief to their family, so this must have been a huge relief to theirfamily, so this morning we know there are five victims being treated here behind me. the owner, thank you very much. here at westminster, life is returning to normal, the roads have reopened, traffic is moving as normalfor reopened, traffic is moving as normal for the first reopened, traffic is moving as normalfor the first time reopened, traffic is moving as normal for the first time since the attack, in keeping really with the

prime minister's message that life here in london and in the country has to continue as normal and that terrorism cannot be seen to win. that is the very latest from westminster. you are watching bbc news. asummary a summary now of the day's of the news at the bbc newsroom. bad behaviour in english schools is not being dealt with properly and pupils‘ performance is being negatively effected. that's the view of the the government's school behaviour expert tom bennett. in a review published today, he says more funding and better training are needed to tackle the issue. the report also recommends that school inspectors pay more attention to behaviour issues, and warns they are often glossed over when schools produce good results. the president of the european commission has told the bbc that the eu will not seek to punish britain during brexit negotiations. speaking on the eve of the eu's 60th anniversary celebrations, jean—claude juncker said the exit talks will be approached fairly but warned that britain will be held

to financial commitments made during its time as a full member. customers should be paid automatic compensation by their phone companies for problems with landlines and broadband. the telecoms regulator 0fcom says providers should pay customers for slow repairs, delayed connections and missed appointments. the plans could affect more than 2.5 million customers who would receive up to £185 million in new compensation payments every year. at the moment, compensation is only paid to a small number of customers. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30am. we will shortly talk to one of the people who was first at the scene after the westminster attack, did not realise it was a terror attack at that stage but stepped in to help one victim in particular who had been injured. we will also be talking about security at westminster, which is being looked

at in the aftermath of the attack, and we will be asking, should police officers in the uk now be routinely armed? get in touch with your thoughts. an e—mail from armed? get in touch with your thoughts. an e—mailfrom michael saying, i'm a retired london taxi driver who'd used to drive in with mps all the time through that gate. the policemen just glanced mps all the time through that gate. the policemenjust glanced into mps all the time through that gate. the policemen just glanced into the back of the cap to recognise the mp and then nodded to me to go ahead. that is not good enough, what is needed is similar to the gates to downing street. how they all knew more than 100 mps with just a glance beats me. and a text to say the last photo of the police officer killed is the most the coverage of the attack, reducing me to tears, thank you to the lady for releasing it for the family, it brings home the human tragedy of the attack. we will have more in a few moments, but let's catch up with the sport. the new formula 1 season is underway, how has lewis hamilton been getting on? is very, very impressive start the

lewis hamilton in australia overnight, fastest in both sessions ahead of the australian grand prix and in second practice, these are the pictures from a lap which was a scorcher, more than half a second faster than anyone else, potentially knocking up to five seconds off lap times. the second quickest to hamilton was sebastian vettel in his ferrari, who claimed would be mercedes‘ biggest rivalfor a ferrari, who claimed would be mercedes‘ biggest rival for a fourth straight title. he said they would be the ones to beat, which, after what happened today, seems no more than mind games. to tell you about the other changes to the cars, they are wider, wider back wheels as well, up to 80 centimetres wider, which as you saw on the pictures is quite a lot in formula 1 terms but makes them harder to drive and certainly harder to overtake, so while there is excitement about the speed, we hope that is matched by the track —— on the track with all

that overtaking. what about the latest on rory mcilroy? is not such a good day for him, he is out of the match play in texas, he only played one round this week, the second of his three opponents, gary woodland, actually pulled out last night, which left soren kjeldsen, who beat mcilroy on wednesday, needing only half a point in his match. he got a full point against emiliano grillo, kjeldsen was due to play his final group match against gary woodland, said because he is guaranteed a win mcilroy cannot qualify. tyrrell hatton here holing dani from distance. danny willett is also out. just so you know, there are three games in the group stages and the top 16 go through to the knockout rounds on saturday and sunday. 0n on wednesday afternoon tiny singer was on a bus heading towards

westminster bridgejust was on a bus heading towards westminster bridge just moments before the attack that brought chaos and terror to the heart of london. the person she helped was unconscious with serious head injuries and after ambulances arrived she left the scene only later to discover the truth about what had happened. dani joins us now in the studio. thank you for coming in. those are the pictures of you on the day, tell us what the first you knew, what was the first you knew of what was happening? we saw the car careering off the pavement. people saw the car knocking several people over. somebody on the bus sheltered, if anyone had first aid training they should get off the bus and go and help. i got off straightaway and went to the first person i saw who looked like they won‘t being

attended to. it was a man with quite significant head injury and potentially other injuries we couldn‘t see. at that point we didn‘t know that anything was going to happen. what help did you give? the other chap who was with me helping the don‘t and we were with was a medic. there wasn‘t a lot we could practically do, it was just monitoring polls and breathing and checking his airways were clear. i was just talking to him, really. you‘re never aware of what people are aware of themselves. i was telling him what was going on, describing when the ambulance were coming, hoping some parts of him was registering our presence and that we we re registering our presence and that we were there to help him. do you know how he is? i've got no idea. as you said, you didn‘t know it was a terror attack. you went off when the ambulance arrived, when did you discover what had actually happened?

i went to wash my hands basically. i came back to the people i was with on the bus. we had to be diverted all the way round. it was ten minutes later when i realised from what they had said that there had been gunshots fired, a police officer had been stabbed, then we realised it was probably part of the same incident and it probably was a terrorist attack of some sort. how did you feel at that point?” terrorist attack of some sort. how did you feel at that point? i wanted to get away as quickly as possible. the area was so hectic with armed police and paramedics and sirens. i just wanted to get home as soon as possible really. your image was one of the images used many times on the day. it must have been quite strange to you afterwards to realise what you had been caught up in. to you afterwards to realise what you had been caught up inm to you afterwards to realise what you had been caught up in. it was. as soon as i got home i had people contacting me. a friend in hungary said his sister in israel had seen the picture of me and wanted to check i was ok. i had a few people

getting in touch saying they had seen getting in touch saying they had seen that and then people phoning saying they had seen me on the news. that was really strange, to be someone‘s reference point or something. something so big and of this level of magnitude. there were lots of people injured, you obviously went straight to one person and focused on helping them. were you able to take in much of what was going on around you and how other people were reacting? not really. we were aware of the people and the longer we stayed there the more it became apparent that further up more it became apparent that further up the bridge more people have been injured. at one point i wasn‘t even aware of the photographs being taken, i was just looking to ambulances and any progress, really. how would you, could you describe the way people work, was it people reacting calmly in dealing with the

situation? was there chaos?” reacting calmly in dealing with the situation? was there chaos? i didn't feel it was chaotic. everyone dealt with it amazingly, especially the nhs staff at st thomas‘ they came running out. they are obviously very close, just on the other side of the bridge. maybe within one or two minutes, a chap came up to me and said i‘m on holiday but i‘m still a doctor, what can i do? all the civilians who helped who maybe didn‘t have that training, they were just there to be doing whatever needed to be done. the police response was incredibly quick, also. i suppose everything went smoothly as far as the response was concerned. as a londoner, how do you feel? i feel affected by having been there but i don‘t feel affected as a londoner. you don't feel more vulnerable? no, this is the sort of thing that is in the back of our

minds could happen at any time. as people are saying, london is open and we stand united. i‘m certainly not going to use this as an excuse to be more afraid of the different communities who make up london. in fa ct, communities who make up london. in fact, it solidified in me the fact london is a diverse multicultural city and we can celebrate that through our unity together. i'm too, dani. following yesterday‘s vigil in trafalgar square we will be talking a bit later about the impact on communities and different faiths coming together. let‘s focus on questions being raised once again about the effectiveness of security around the houses of parliament. the attacker khalid masood was able to get past the carriage gates at westminster before he was shot by police. this is what scotland yard‘s mark rowley had to say about reviewing security.

i understand why tragic events such as this generates questions about the security of parliament. 0ur current arrangements have been developed with parliament over many yea rs, developed with parliament over many years, and are designed to provide access to the seat of our government, balanced carefully with security that is proportionate but not overly intrusive. 0f security that is proportionate but not overly intrusive. of course after an incident like this, as would be expected, my team will work with parliamentary authorities to assess whether a different tone or a different balance is necessary. more widely across the country, the police service will sustain an enhanced armed and unarmed presence over the next few days. london and the uk are open for business, and we‘re out there in greater numbers to make sure the public see a high presence, to help reassure them as they go about their daily lives. in london, the number of armed officers remains at nearly double strength, whilst other parts of the uk are up to one third more officers on duty.

we can now speak to sidney mackay, a former chief superintendent in the met police. his daughter, also a met 0fficer, was killed while on duty. his son is currently serving met officer. tony long, a former police firearms officer. anthony glees who directs the centre for security and intelligence studies at the university of buckingham. and philip ingram, a former british army intelligence officer who has been following the intelligence and security operation. thank you forjoining us. we were hearing that armed officers patrolling london are at double strength. tony, do you think police should be routinely armed? my personal opinion is yes. i know i‘m out of sync with a lot of my former collea g u es out of sync with a lot of my former colleagues that are still serving but i think over the years, an increasing percentage are coming towards that viewpoint. i think if you have a limited resource, the chances are it‘s not going to be in

the right place at the right time. what is your view on arming police officers? privately i think it's inevitable that every officer will become armed. the growing incidence of incidents such as two days ago will require it. in this situation it was actually a protection officer working for the defence secretary who fired the bullet that stopped the attacker. what is your view, tony, of the level of armed police that are around westminster in particular? we don't know why it was a closed protection officer, perhaps he just happened to be the person at that moment in time that found himself closest. in my experience, normally, there are at least two uniformed armed officers in the vicinity of that gate or certainly in the vicinity of that yard. they may well have been there but this particular officer happen to be

nearest. the point i would make is that this assailant, terrorist, call him what you will, made life relatively easy for the police in this incident. having run over his victims on westminster bridge, he made his way to probably the most heavily armed building in london. if heavily armed building in london. if he had done the same at the other end of whitehall, and driven around trafalgar square running people over or god forbid up into the west end, we wouldn‘t have had static police officers waiting for him. we would have had armed response vehicles, trying to make sense of gobbled radio messages, trying to get through gridlocked streets. they would have had to find him before they could have put his attack to a finish. that‘s the point i‘m making, if you have a limited resource and you major firearms officers to specialist, mr rowley has just said that there are double the amount of armed officers on the streets,

that‘s fine, but it‘s not sustainable. those officers will be an overtime because there aren‘t enough of them to maintain that. with that scenario that tony long is outlining, a complete nightmare scenario, something that would be much harder to handle, what are your thoughts on the best way to protect people on the streets? the best way to protect people and the best way to protect people and the best way to protect people and the best way to protect parliament is actually to protect it. what we saw two days ago was a lack of protection. i'm very disturbed by the kind of complacent attitude, i'm afraid. i know, it's beena attitude, i'm afraid. i know, it's been a terrible tragedy and people are traumatised by it, understandably. but the fact is, both in immediate terms and in wider terms, this was a failure of security policy. people may have seen security policy. people may have seen the pictures i've just seen on twitter a few moments ago of mrs may

being taken at great speed, in an extreme condition of chaos, act of parliament. this was somebody who got within 100 metres of whether prime minister was. if it had an explosive vest, you and i would be having a very different conversation. when mr rowley says, we've been planning this for a long time, it was proportionate, etc. it wasn't proportionate at all. a very brave police officer confronted a crazed islamist attacker, without a weapon. this is lack of planning. i think we become complacent in this country. nobody wants to see armed police, but that is the only response, particularly in westminster. the more we know about the perpetrator, the terrorist, the more questions will be asked why this man slipped off the radar of

m15. we've got a security service, we know there are 3000 people in this country that want to do us harm, they should jolly well have their collars felt. you are shaking your head at what was being said there. i think it's been grossly unfair in misrepresenting what was going on. i was in westminster not long after the incident happened. the police and emergency service response was phenomenally quick. there‘s a balance between having com plete there‘s a balance between having complete security. if you do that, everywhere is on all time, every member of the police is armed, you‘ve got soldiers on the street and that‘s a totalitarian state. we are not, we are a free liberal democracy and we have to let people go about their normal lives without oppressive security oppressive security. security starts with an outer ring of intelligence. it‘s very difficult when you‘re looking at lone wolf attacks, which this seems to have been, to pick up the intelligence that would indicate it. especially when some of the

attackers that carry out these sort of events go from zero to being crude boot recruited to jihad within 48 hours. australian police last year stopped 216—year—olds from carrying out attacks, they made an assessment that they had been recruited to jihad within 48 hours. that‘s virtually impossible for any security organisation to be able to keep on top. i agree with the speakers in saying that i think now is time when our police forces, certainly in our major cities and areas where there‘s concentrations of people, should be routinely armed. you are all of the consensus that it is time to routinely armed police... there will be an awful lot of criticism and already has been in terms of how he got as far as he did. it is worth bearing in mind

that in 1979, did. it is worth bearing in mind that in1979, in did. it is worth bearing in mind that in 1979, in the middle of a concerted irish terrorism campaign, a car bomb was detonated under a vehicle by the ira within yards of where the officer was killed the other day going into the underground car park. but despite that between 1979 and the twin towers going down in 2001 parliament consistently refused to have any armed police officers within the palace of westminster. there is a tradition, and quite understandably so around that building, the sergeant at arms basically has to say yes or no to all of the security there and i guarantee if the gates were shut the first person to complain about it, probably because they would could not ride their bicycles through it, would be a member of parliament or cabinet member, so the unarmed

uniformed officers that are effectively meters and greeters and pass checkers know that community well and they are on first name terms with the mps and everything else, and i think that that inspires a lack of security in many ways, but most people seem to be in agreement, if you are going to have officers there, this perception that because they are carrying a gun changes the way they do policing, is, i‘m afraid, delusional. i carry guns over tea and covertly, i have been there and communicated with the public, given them directions and acted like an ordinary police officer as i was for the whole of my service. having a gun on your hip does not stop... elsewhere in the world it is almost insulting to suggest that the dutch police or french police or swiss police don‘t have community policing, that their officers are not approachable simply because they have a gun. it is a fallacy that has been allowed to

perpetuate to such an extent that serving officers think that is what would happen if they had to carry a gun, and it is simply not true. 0livier having on to say, should all officers be armed, no, but more should. i‘m a police officer, british police haven‘t recruited officers with firearms in mind, then he would not want to carry all not have the skills or aptitude, but all officers should be offered the chance to carry a weapon and if they have —— if they pass the rigorous selection and training they should carry, this occurred in the most heavily policed area in the country, if it happened in other areas it could take 45 minutes for armed police to arrive. what is your view on whether there would be an appetite for the police to be armed? i have to agree with tony, there has been a recent poll by the met police federation on firearms and taser 's by the met police federation on firearms and taser '5 within the federation membership, and i think they were all in favour of tasers but rejected considerably not to

carry firearms. i think it is a mystique that has been built up over the years notjust by mystique that has been built up over the years not just by police mystique that has been built up over the years notjust by police but by the years notjust by police but by the public as well, the perception of the public, that we've always traditionally had a unarmed police, and this is a gold standard of some sort. i don't deny that and i recognise it, but there is a mindset for the moment not to carry firearms but i think, as i said initially, that it will be inevitable that office rs that it will be inevitable that officers will personally realise that they must go along that path. it might not be tomorrow, but i think it will be sometime in the not too distant future. it will have huge resource implications for the uk police service as a whole, both in training and getting officers to

volunteer under present circumstances to carry a weapon. thank you all very much forjoining us, and if you have any more comments they are always welcome, the usual ways of getting in touch. still to come... following yesterday‘s vigil in trafalgar square, i'll i‘ll talk to religious leaders from various fates about what role religion can play in the aftermath ofa religion can play in the aftermath of a terrorist attack. and we‘ll look at the global fight against so—called islamic state and whether we‘re likely to see more terror attacks in the west. here‘s annita in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today‘s news. a fourth victim who died last night after being knocked down in the westminster attack has been named by police as 75—year—old leslie rhodes from streatham, in south london. two people remain in hospital in a critical condition. two police officers hurt in the attack are also in hospital with "significant injuries". in a statement this morning, police investigating the attack have

revealed that they‘ve made two further significant arrests overnight. nine people are now in custody, one woman has been released on bail. police have also revealed the attacker, khalid masood, was born adrian russell ajao. the police have appealed for information from anyone who‘d known him well. bad behaviour in english schools is not being dealt with properly and pupils‘ performance is being negatively effected. that‘s the view of the the government‘s school behaviour expert, tom bennett. in a review published today, he says more funding and better training are needed to tackle the issue. the report also recommends that school inspectors pay more attention to behaviour issues, and warns they are often glossed over when schools produce good results. the president of the european commission has told the bbc that the eu will not seek to punish britain during brexit negotiations. speaking on the eve of the eu‘s 60th anniversary celebrations, jean—claude juncker said the exit talks will be approached fairly but warned that britain will be held to financial commitments made during its time as a full member.

customers should be paid automatic compensation by their phone companies for problems with landlines and broadband. the telecoms regulator 0fcom says providers should pay customers for slow repairs, delayed connections and missed appointments. the plans could affect more than 2.5 million customers who would receive up to £185 million in new compensation payments every year. at the moment, compensation is only paid to a small number of customers. that‘s a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10am. here‘s the sport now with hugh. lewis hamilton called his first day of the new formula one season "99% perfect" after finishing fastest in both practice sessions ahead of the australian grand prix. he was more than half a second quicker than the rest in the second session and that, in formula one,

particularly with the new faster cars, is a lot. that lap allowed him to finish ahead of ferrari‘s sebastian vettel and new mercedes teammate valteri bottas in melbourne. soren kjeldsen‘s win at the wgc match play golf sends rory mcilroy crashing out. and the world number two didn‘t even play after his opponent withdrew. as a result kjeldsen needed just a half to prevent mcilroy reaching the knockout stage. british swimming is conducting an investigation after multiple bullying claims were made by paralympians about a coach. bbc sport has learned the complainants include rio 2016 medallists. and david haye has been called before boxing authorities to explain his comments in the build—up to his heavyweight defeat to tony bellew last month. haye had graphically described the injuries that he hoped to inflict on his opponent. that is it for now, more later. last night a candlelit vigil

was held in trafalgar square to remember those that lost their lives and that these are the words from london‘s mayor. london is a city with people from all sorts of backgrounds. when london faces diversity, we all pull together. we stand up for our values, and we show the world we are the greatest city in the world. let‘s speak now to the archdeacon of london, luke miller. the rabbi drjonathan roman, who has edited a book called terror, trauma and tragedy, on how communities should respond in the wake of terrorism. and imam yunus dudhwala, who is the head of chaplaincy

and bereavement services to barts health nhs trust. thank you all for coming in, father luke millar, you were at the vigil, tell us what it was like. it was an extraordinary experience to have the privilege of looking across so many people who had come to show that london stands together, that we are unified in the face of this kind of attack and determined we will not be terrorised out of normal behaviour, that we shall carry on in all our extraordinary multifarious diversity. imam yunus dudhwala, what is your view of faith leaders at a time like this? we have a very important role to play to try to bring communities together, especially in communities that are very diverse. we have mosques, churches, synagogues, temples, we have communities, we have people from different religious backgrounds, so it is a time for us

to mind ourselves as leaders and lead from the front to make sure people understand our values are very similar, our backgrounds are similar in terms of humanity, and the need to respect each other and tolerance, but faith leaders have a very important role. what is the evidence you have seen about how people are responding? evidence you have seen about how people are responding ?|j evidence you have seen about how people are responding? i live in london and looking at how people have been going about their normal business, the vigil that was held at trafalgar square last night, there we re many trafalgar square last night, there were many other vigils in tower hamlets, leeds, manchester, other places as well, sol hamlets, leeds, manchester, other places as well, so i think communities realise that one person does not represent the whole community and it is about our human values. rabbi jonathan roman, would you have concerns about division in the aftermath of something like this? no, the fact there are kristian,

—— the christian, a jew and muslim sitting together, after the last attack, i said a prayer in hebrew, an imam came and said a prayer in arabic. something like that would not have happened if there had not been an attack like that? yes, although to be honest it was built on years and years of coming together and although, yes, we are now talking about it, actually the interfaith dialogue has been going on for decades, probably 50 or 60 years, and it is that slow local individual work that has been building up which allows us to be on first name terms and know about each other's theology. the only problem about last night was a pop—up community and i think this is where religious buildings and institutions school because people do need their candlelight, their songs, their camaraderie, but what happens next week? that community in trafalgar

square has gone but the synagogue, the mosque, the church will be open week after week so people who have the need to disperse —— to express their dismay, anger, for solidarity, they have a place to go week after week. what you talk about, the slow building of relations in communities obviously sounds absolutely ideal and likea obviously sounds absolutely ideal and like a good place to be. luke, how do you see that actually in operation? in london i think we have a very deep sense of the work that goes on in that way locally all the time, it was one of those things that bubbles from the bottom up, people know one another because they share the same streets and shops, we work together in all sorts of places, schools and across all workplaces. we see, therefore, as jonathan says, we see this bubbling up jonathan says, we see this bubbling up from the bottom all the time. i think one of the main pieces of work

that we have going on is precisely this response to major attacks and other things that can happen, whether it be a flood or a fire, where the faith communities have a well worked out system for working together. what i'm hearing from all of you is a very positive message about when it goes right but clearly there are incidents of division of people who are not pulling together, and hatred being fuelled. to be honest, there are lunatics out there, notjust religious lunatics but political lunatics, animal—rights lunatics, it is human nature, not religion, and by and large religion is there as a force for good. and again, thinking about what happened yesterday, there was one terrorist but hundreds of people who stopped to rescue, comfort, give medical aid, thousands upon thousands now giving money, and we underestimate that most people are good, decent, friendly. brendan cox

make the point thatjust because a yorkshireman committed a murder it does not make all yorkshiremen murderers. on that, yunus, how important is the language, because theresa may said yesterday it was wrong to describe the attack as islamic terrorism, she said it was islamist, a perversion of the great debate. i personally think islamist is also a perversion, because if you bring islam into it, even as islamist, i think that is a problem in itself. how would you describe it? for me, it is a lot to do with politics, it is a lot to do with the middle east, it is a lot to do with power structures within the middle east, and then the connection that the international players try to find within this community of hours to say, look, i connection with you andl to say, look, i connection with you and i is islam, and they use is lamb

as the catch. yes, if land is used as the catch. yes, if land is used asa as the catch. yes, if land is used as a cat but in reality there are lots of different issues —— islam. are you concerned that bringing the term islam is divisive? yes, it is pa rt of term islam is divisive? yes, it is part of the problem, but not the whole problem. this individual might have been a muslim but there are lots of issues going on. i think one of the biggest issues that we have to try to bring the communities together is the outcast routes, people live on the same streets but don't talk to each other, people go to the shops but don't talk to the person in front of them. people have taken islam from the media or from what they see or they breed and it gives that message. i would urge people to talk to each other, muslims talking to christians, christians talking to jews. it muslims talking to christians, christians talking tojews. it has to happen at grassroots. i have been invited, before this incident, to speak to some rabbis next week in an

mosque, and that is how it is going to happen, communities need to open their doors and we need to speak to each other. in the 605 and 705 door5 we re each other. in the 605 and 705 door5 were open, everyone knew each other. in the 605 and 705 door5 were open, everyone knew each other. today we are very individualistic and therefore people just ignore each other, they take the news all the information from the media and it can be skewed. the coming together you are talking about is very much faith —based. but not everybody out there has faith and is involved in communities like that. and actually they live in communities where people don‘t intersect with each other.“ there'5 intersect with each other.“ there's one thing that people do as a result of what happened at westminster, it is that if you have a neighbour or someone in your street of a different race, colour, ethnic group of faith, or in the office at work, who you nod to but don't know, say, come round for a cup of tea. do you think people would do that these days? people think, what can we do. is a

practical example. spend 15 minutes with someone, get to know them and find out how they are different but how they worry about the same things, education, mortgage, and see the commonality underneath. going back to your earlier point about words, i wouldn't want to describe the chap yesterday as islamist, call him a criminal, call him a murderer, and put him on a par with all the other people who do atrocious things. absolutely. just going back to... ask people why they dress differently, ask about their cultures, don'tjust as differently, ask about their cultures, don't just as schumann. sometimes we see somebody on the street and just because it's written this person used to dress in black, or they used to dress in white robes. —— don't just or they used to dress in white robes. —— don'tjust assume. that brings suspicion. what if he was a

gardener, what if he was a coffee shop owner? are all copy shop owners or gardeners now guilty? language is really important, we need to be careful with language. really important, we need to be carefulwith language. what really important, we need to be careful with language. what are your thoughts? i think the atomisation of society are something we stand against as religious people. the message of most religions is about people coming together. just talking to our neighbours, engaging with the person in the shop. we go to the machine, the card pins and we walk away without engaging with anybody. finding all those opportunities, in the workplace, wherever we are during the day, how we are engaging with the people with whom we live and with whom we share our society. and finding those opportunities to reach out to them, rather than just being in an atomised world. i think the other thing is that if we are clear about what we believe and think ourselves, we more easily reach out to someone who is different. what we have tended to do

in our discussion about inclusivity, is to ask for a kind of anodyne uniformity, that then sees difference as something of which to be afraid. that kind of unity isn‘t unity at all. it‘s a way of expressing atomisation and of increasing fear. whereas if we are able in all of our wonderful difference, to express that clearly, and then from that to be able to reach out to others, it seems to me we can form a stronger and more effective society. and at the same time rescue got from the terrorists. there's no doubt religion has been hijacked by these lunatics and we can say actually... that's been going on forever. we had protestant and catholic terrorists and all that sort of thing. thank you forjoining us. sort of thing. thank you forjoining us. let us know your thoughts. we‘ll be talking in a few moments about how to actually tackle is. let‘s bring you some breaking news we are

hearing out of egypt. we hear the former president hosni mubarak has walked free for the first time in six years. he has been released from jail. there is an image of him. he is out of prison for the first time in six years. we will bring you more on that as we have it. coming up, we look at the threat of home—grown terror, and what the government is doing to stop uk citizens becoming radicalised here. we can bring you some comments on arming the police following on from the earlier conversation we had about security issues arising from the terror attack. 0ne viewer says, i think all police should receive firearms training but i don‘t think they should be routinely armed. another viewer says, people need to step back, we don‘t need armed police on our streets, let‘s not

forget the attack failed. another tweet, guns, tasered, buttons, give the police something. another tweet, the police something. another tweet, the world is changing, the threat is changing, for the safety of police and public they all have to be armed. a tweet, armed police should have been around the gate to cover the backs of the an armed police. imagine if the terrorist had a gun. please keep your comments coming in. the so—called islamic state yesterday claimed it was behind the attack in london which resulted in the death of three people and the attacker himself. over the last 18 months is has claimed responsibility for several atrocities in europe, including shootings in paris and brussels. but the islamist group has suffered heavy losses in syria, and in iraq is facing defeat in its last stronghold in mosul. so what is the priority for is? does that mean future attacks in the west are less likely? joining me now is dr natasha underhill from nottingham trent university

and charlie winter from the international centre for the study of radicalisation and political violence at king‘s college london. thank you forjoining us. is has claimed khalid masood as one of its soldiers and said this is an act of is. natasha, what are your thoughts on whether this was effectively a lone wolf or whether, as is claims, it had some level of involvement?” would be more inclined to assume this was a lone wolf, that this person had become almost self radicalised. what is are actually doing is capitalising on the publicity. all terrorist organisations want a theatre and this is a global news story. essentially they are just capitalising on the fact that this is getting their name out there, because of the losses they have been suffering, they need something to promote themselves again. this is the perfect example of that. charlie, do you doubt that is was directly involved? charlie, do you doubt that is was

directly involved ? security charlie, do you doubt that is was directly involved? security services look at three options whether is could have actively directed something, enabled it or inspired it. based on the information that we have in front of us now, based on everything that islamic state has said over the course of the last 36 hours, there's nothing to indicate it had an instructive role in the operation. the way it's framed its messaging sense and all of its propaganda regarding everything else, the way it's talking or not talking about london, is really significant. you can read into that based on what happened in the past. all of the indication is that this was an attack it's trying to framer something it inspired rather than it directed. if it had directed it, it would be going to town on showing it did. martyrdom videos frequently emerge, don‘t they? did. martyrdom videos frequently emerge, don't they? they do, there isa slim emerge, don't they? they do, there is a slim chance that khalid masood could have filmed himself pledging

allegiance to the leader of islamic state and sent it out and there could be a video that will show that. but until that happens, i don't think we should think about it as if it's a reality already. worthy organisation to try and claim this operation as something it directed, the whole propaganda response would have been very different —— were the organisation to try and claim this operation. we talked about the impact on the ground on is‘s capabilities, is translating to is‘s power being reduced in terms of the operations that can be carried out, away from syria and iraqi? there's definitely a relationship between what happens in syria and iraq and the rest of the world. but i would bea the rest of the world. but i would be a bit cautious about drawing to linear a connection between the two. definitely the case is that, as the islamic state loses mosul and its territories in syria crumble, that's not even to mention libya, it really

does need this kind of attack, it needs to derive momentum from somewhere in order to keep its current supporters interested, to maintaina sense current supporters interested, to maintain a sense of legitimacy, credibility, relevance. so this kind of attack and the propaganda that follows it, the impact, is so important for islamic state now. if we understand all of these atrocities through that lens, i think it really helps to allow us to point towards its strategic logic. how would you describe the strategic logic of is, natasha? and what its capabilities are? at the moment i think we are slightly over estimating the group. i think in a way we are giving them too much credit for what they can achieve. yes, they‘ve taken territory, yes they been able to contain and control. what we need to do is capitalise on their losses. we have to remember they are built on an ideology whether caliphate is key. they were able to establish that but now they are losing that territory

again. what we need to do is make sure we aren‘t just again. what we need to do is make sure we aren‘tjust challenging then militarily but also targeting that ideology. discredit their idea of the caliphate, discredit them in terms of their successes and capitalise on that. i think we need to think clearly about countering not just the organisation to think clearly about countering notjust the organisation itself, but also its ideology. this is the most dangerous thing for us here in the west. charlie, a fundamental aspect of the way it operates is online. absolutely. and through propaganda that it disseminates online. what we've seen over the la st online. what we've seen over the last few days is a utter transformation in how it uses the inter— net. transformation in how it uses the inter—net. things transformation in how it uses the inter— net. things like twitter, facebook, they are still important, but it's inhospitable for islamic state supporters. we've seen a retreat into darker parts of the inter— net which retreat into darker parts of the inter—net which are more difficult to access, which is good in the grand scheme of things but it means in terms of getting propaganda out there it's a lot more difficult. of course that makes it more difficult

to monitor for the intelligence services because a lot of these channels are encrypted or secret and that's another level of difficulty. in the broadest terms, the fact is its propaganda is no longer as easy to access on the inter—as it once was. we have to commend everyone involved in making that situation happen. —— the inter—net. involved in making that situation happen. -- the inter-net. coming up. coming up, coping with the aftermath of a terror attack. i‘ll hear from some people who witnessed horrific events in france, brussels and berlin. let‘s get the latest weather update. good morning. contrasting weather conditions across the uk at the moment. this is the scene for many of you, a lovely shot there. we‘ve got blue skies overhead. it‘s a different story across some southern parts of england and the north of scotland. cloudy conditions much like this one. that‘s under this

sheet of clouds. there are two areas of cloud, this is high cloud, the most it‘s sunny conditions through the central area of the uk. this cloud is producing outbreaks of rain across somerset, devon and cornwall. pretty cold in the south banks to the wind. things will brighten up here. rain through parts of northern scotla nd here. rain through parts of northern scotland this morning but something a bit brighter into the afternoon. the vast majority of the uk, it‘s a sunny friday and very pleasant too with light winds. but high pressure is in charge for the central suede and where the winds are lightest, will seize on mist and fog form. —— the central area where the winds are lightest. conditions are colder than last night. we‘re into the weekend ona last night. we‘re into the weekend on a pretty chilly start. high pressure is their right across us.

0n the outskirts we‘ve got breezy conditions in northern scotland. a brighter day in the south but still pretty blustery, weather winds are lightest and for most of you, it will be a sunny day. even sunnier across the south than today. temperatures will lift up quite nicely. if you are along some of these eastern coasts it‘s a different story. strong winds coming offa different story. strong winds coming off a chilly north sea. you‘ll still have the same strong sunshine overhead. that‘s because high pressure remains with us. it‘s there into saturday night. just a bit further north, the focus for some mist and fog and coldest conditions will be scotland, northern ireland and northern england. most. mothering sunday on a dry and sunny note. quite chilly across eastern areas. we could get around 16 or 17 celsius. warmest conditions perhaps

in the highlands of scotland. on sunday, that clock change is coming and we are going to british summertime. good news for those working the night shift, not so much for those who don‘t want to get up early. at least the evenings will be brighter. hello, i‘m joanna gosling, welcome to the show. more details emerge of the man who carried out the westminster terror attack. khalid masood was previously known as adrian russell ajao born in dartford in kent. a woman who rushed to help one of the victims on westminster bridge tells this programme what she saw. i was just talking to him, really, he was unconscious but you never know what people are aware of themselves so i was talking to him, telling him what was going on, describing when the ambulances were coming and hoping some part of him was registering our present and that

we we re was registering our present and that we were there to help him. an american tourist posts a picture of murdered police officer keith palmer before he died, as the 75—year—old man who died from his injuries last night is named as leslie rhodes from south london. police say they have made two most significant arrests overnight and are trawling through massive amounts of computer data. they urge the public to help them. we have had contact with 3500 witnesses, including 1000 people from westminster bridge and about 2500 within the parliamentary estate. i‘m ben brown live at westminster where the roads have reopened for the first time since the attack. i will bring you the latest on the fast—moving police investigation into what happened here. hello, welcome to the programme, we are live until 11am.

0ne e—mail, we must protect the protectors. in this day and age, police are like soldiers on our street and they need armour like the knights of old. they are here rose and the threat of anyone, any time needs to be addressed properly. another e—mail, the police should carry tasers in places like parliament. if pc palmer had been armed with one, he may still be alive. an e—mailfrom alive. an e—mail from val, alive. an e—mailfrom val, i would alive. an e—mail from val, i would feel reassured seeing police armed on the streets. we have to wake up and realise this is the world we are now living in. thank you for those comments, you are always welcome to get in touch with us throughout the programme. texts will be charged at the standard network rate. let‘s get the latest from ben brown now in westminster. good morning, joanna. westminster seems to be back to normal this morning, the roads around here open borderfirst time since morning, the roads around here open border first time since the attack. police investigating the attack on westminster have revealed that they‘ve made two further "significant" arrests overnight. nine people are now in custody,

one woman has been released on bail. a fourth victim who died last night has been named by police as 75—year—old leslie rhodes from streatham, in south london. scotland yard‘s acting deputy commissioner, mark rowley, said the attacker, khalid masood, had been born adrian russell ajao. first, for the latest on the investigation, here‘s jane frances kelly. this photo is thought to have been taken of pc keith palmerjust 45 minutes before he died. the american tourist seen with him was at westminster prior to the attack and asked if she could pose with the opposite. —— with the officer. 0ther victims of the attack were aysha frade, a mother of two. also an american tourist, kurt cochran. police have also confirmed that another man has died. whilst we await formal identification, we believe that he is leslie rhodes,

aged 75, from streatham in south london. my thoughts are with his family at this time. furthermore, two people remain in hospital in what is described as critical condition, and one person is considered to have life—threatening injuries. the man responsible for the deaths was 52—year—old khalid masood, he was previously known as adrian russell ajao. he was born in kent and most recently lived in the west midlands. he had a range of previous convictions including gbh, possession of offensive weapons, and public order offences. his last conviction was in 2003 for possession of a knife. he was also known under a number of aliases, and he was known to the security services. police said overnight there were two significant arrests in the west midlands and north—west. nine people are in custody, one woman has been released on bail. live searches are continuing. 2700 items have been seized, including

computer data. police are appealing to the public for information as they try to piece together whether masood acted alone or as part of a wider network. anyone who knew khalid masood well, anyone who understands who his associates were, anyone who can provide information about the places he‘s recently visited. there might well be people out there who did have concerns about masood but weren‘t sure or didn‘t feel comfortable for whatever reasons in passing that information to us. i now urge anyone with such information to call us. the attack has reverberated across the world, but it was an attack at the heart of british democracy. get in the car! shots show the prime minister being led away to safety by her security team, a scene of uncertainty. it was still unclear what had gone on outside the gates of westminster. last night the police, politicians and faith leaders joined thousands of people in trafalgar square, with the message that terrorism and fear will not prevail. a lot more detail emerging this

morning about the police investigation. let‘s get the latest from the metropolitan police headquarters at scotland yard with our correspondent daniel boettcher. yes, first we got more details about those who were injured in this attack, police now saying 50 people injured and of those being treated in hospital they said two are still considered to be in critical condition and one person considered to have life—threatening injuries. two police officers remain in hospital with what are described as very significant injuries. police said that those affected are from a cross—section of different ages and from at least 12 different nationalities, and we heard there in that report also new information about aliases used by the attacker, khalid masood. we have also heard

more about the scope of this inquiries, police say it is an investigation involving hundreds of officers from across the counter terrorism network, they describe it asa terrorism network, they describe it as a very large, fast—paced investigation, focusing on masood‘s possible motivation, preparation, potential associates. police say they are determined to find out if he acted totally alone, if he was inspired by terrorist propaganda, if others had encouraged, supported or directed him. they said there have now been searches at five addresses ongoing, 16 searches concluded. they also say they have had contact with around 3500 witnesses, these are witnesses either from westminster bridge or the parliamentary estate, and also an update on security, police saying there is now an enhanced armed police presence in london, they say the number of armed officers remains near double strength and in other parts of the uk up to one third more armed

officers on duty. 0k, daniel, thank you very much indeed, daniel boettcher there for us indeed, daniel boettcher there for us at new scotland yard. armed police have raided several properties in birmingham in connection to the attack. 0ur correspondent kathryn stanczyszyn is in birmingham this morning. two significant arrests that police have updated in the last hour, one of those was made overnight here in the west midlands, one in the north—west, and seven of the arrests yesterday were made here in the west midlands, too. as you say, we know the car that was used on that westminster bridge attack was actually hired from a rental centre around five minutes away from where i am now on hagley road. this was where the activity was focused first here in birmingham on wednesday night, a flat behind me was raided by armed officers. the activity then moved to a house about five minutes away, where it‘s believed that the attacker actually lived for some time.

neighbours shocked to recognise khalid masood in photographs, saying that they believed he‘d been living in a house there up until around two months ago. and the car rental centre was just a short walk from there, and bbc sources have told us that they believe he actually hired that car directly himself. now, this has been a huge police operation. of course searches have spanned a big geographical area — sussex, london, here in the west midlands and in wales as well. but of course the prevalence of the arrests made here in birmingham have led people to talk about whether the city has a problem with radicalisation. some of the press describing birmingham as a terror hotspot this morning. of course the vast majority of muslims say this attack is not even in the same universe as theirfaith. and, indeed, the birmingham faith leaders‘ network has put out a statement saying, "we completely reject any attempt to see

an opportunity to blame any particular community or faith in this city for the perverted actions of one individual." and, indeed, a special unity vigil is going to be held in birmingham on the high street at 5pm today. that‘s been organised by the muslim engagement network and stand up to racism jointly. they say they want to pay tribute to the victims of this attack but also show that all communities in birmingham are standing together. kathryn stanczyszyn reporting there from birmingham. last night, police said a 75—year—old man had died after being hit by the car. he has been named as leslie rhodes from streatham in south london, taking the number of fatalities to four. more than 30 victims are being treated in various london hospitals, two people said to be critically ill. my colleague fiona lamdin was at king‘s college hospital in central london this morning. i‘m about three miles from where the attack took place

at king‘s this morning. you can see the police still very much here, guarding the hospital. the very sad news that came in last night that 75—year—old leslie rhodes from streatham, not far from here, died here at the hospital last night, which takes the number of victims to four who died following the attacks. so we now know leslie rhodes, we know pc keith palmer, the police officer who was protecting parliament, who was stabbed. aysha frade, who was on her way to pick her two children up from school, and kurt cochran, the us tourist who was here celebrating his 25th wedding anniversary. now, the hospital told us on wednesday afternoon they brought eight of the victims here to king‘s. we now know one is still in a very critical condition. two people were allowed home yesterday, must have been a huge relief to their family, and so this morning we know there are still five victims being treated here behind me. fiona lamdin reporting. here at westminster the roads have reopened, live starting to return to normal,

the tube station, westminster tube has reopened as well, but the police investigation gathering momentum and at the heart of it police trying to find out was this man, khalid masood, a lone wolf or did he have a composite? that is the latest from westminster. —— did he have an accomplice. here‘s annita in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today‘s news. the former president of egypt, hosni mubarak, who was overthrown in 2011, has been released from a military hospital. he was serving six years for the treatment of protest is but he has been cleared of charges and has now left the military hospital where he was serving his sentence. bad behaviour in english schools is not being dealt with properly and pupils‘ performance is being negatively effected. that‘s the view of the the government‘s school behaviour expert, tom bennett. in a review published today, he says more funding and better training are needed to tackle the issue. the report also recommends that school inspectors pay more attention to behaviour issues,

and warns they are often glossed over when schools produce good results. the president of the european commission has told the bbc that the eu will not seek to punish britain during brexit negotiations. speaking on the eve of the eu‘s 60th anniversary celebrations, jean—claude juncker said the exit talks will be approached fairly but warned that britain will be held to financial commitments made during its time as a full member. customers should be paid automatic compensation by their phone companies for problems with landlines and broadband. the telecoms regulator 0fcom says providers should pay customers for slow repairs, delayed connections and missed appointments. the plans could affect more than 2.5 million customers who would receive up to £185 million in new compensation payments every year. at the moment, compensation is only paid to a small number of customers. that‘s a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30am. do get in touch with us throughout the morning, use the hashtag #victorialive.

in particular, lots of you getting in touch on whether police should be routinely armed in the wake of the terror attack in london. if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. now the sport. it‘s been an impressive start to the new formula one season for lewis hamilton as he goes for a fourth world title. he was fastest in both practice sessions today ahead of the australian grand prix. and in second practice he was more than half a second faster than anyone, with the new cars for the 2017 season potentially knocking up to five seconds off lap times. second quickest was sebastian vettel in his ferrari, who hamilton claimed would be his mercedes team‘s biggest rivals this season. hamilton called his opening 99% perfect. rory mcilroy is out of the wgc match play golf, having only played one round.

the second of his three opponents in the round robin group stage of the tournament in texas, gary woodland, pulled out, leaving denmark‘s soren kjeldsen — who beat mcilroy on wednesday — needing only a half a point in his match against argentine emiliano grillo to eliminate the northern irishman. kjeldsen was due to play his final group match against woodland, so since he‘s guaranteed a win, mcilroy can‘t qualify. england‘s tyrrell hatton and paul casey won to maintain their 100% records. but masters champion danny willett is out. british swimming is conducting an investigation after multiple bullying claims were made by paralympians about a coach. bbc sport has learned the complainants include rio 2016 medallists. wales manager chris coleman insists their crucial world cup qualifier against the republic of ireland tonight is not a must—win game, but admits there‘s a "desperation" in the squad to reach another major tournament. ireland are top of group d after four matches unbeaten, with wales, having only won one of their qualifiers so far, four points behind them in third. you get halfway and see where you

are in the campaign. you fighting at the wrong end or at the right end? all this pressure on us is what we‘ve always wanted. i wish it, i‘ve dreamt about it. to be halfway in the campaign and still have a say in who finishes top, who comes second. headlinesjust headlines just after 10:30am. more details have emerged about khalid masood, the 52—year—old man who drove a car into pedestrians on westminster bridge on wednesday before fatally stabbing a policeman guarding the houses of parliament. he was not an immigrant, he was previously known as adrian russell ajao and lived in dartford in kent in a non—muslim family. he grew up with his mum in rye in east sussex and there are reports of a conviction in eastbourne in a local paper as late as 2003, still under his birth name.

at some point after 2003, he changed religion and adopted the name khalid masood. he is also believed to have lived in luton and east london, and most recently in the west midlands. the sun newspaper claims he spent some time in saudi arabia as an english language teacher, but the bbc has been unable to verify this. he was known to police and m15 and had convictions for assaults including gbh, possession of offensive weapons and public order offences. he‘d also spent time in prison, but not recently and not for terror related offences. so—called islamic state have claimed responsibility for the attack. so how does some living on british soil become radicalised and are the uk government‘s strategies to stop people carrying out attacks doing theirjob? let‘s speak now to rashad ali, a senior fellow at the institute for strategic dialogue, which is a counter extremism think tank based in london. sara khan, co—founder of the counter—extremism organisation inspire.

dr brooke rogers, a senior lecturer in risk and terror in the department of war studies at king‘s college london. she‘s a social psychologist specializing in the psychology of radicalization and the impact of terrorism and currently researching lone actor extremist events. ali milani, who is president of the brunel university students union. and joining us from salford we have rizwaan sabir, a lecturer of criminology at liverpooljohn moores university, a was himself arrested under anti—terror law. thank you forjoining us. what is your perspective on whether the government is doing the right thing on trying to stop radicalisation? we are talking about somebody who was born here, not born a muslim and at some stage in his life he became radicalised. i think the case is a good illustration of the limitations of what any government can do. essentially, thankfully, we don‘t

live in a totalitarian state, which means we aren‘t monitoring every individual. we aren‘t gathering intelligence on everyone and keeping it. so therefore, there is no way you can stop an individual from getting into a car and committing something like this. it‘s one of the prices we pay for living in a liberal democracy. having said that, there are big debates around radicalisation that are probably pertinent to understanding how we can tackle this. and what the actual cause is, and how does an individual get involved in this. because i think it‘s easy to talk about counter extremism and prevention. but really, when it comes down to the individual level, it‘s often very difficult to be able to treat individuals who are being radicalised, for a number of reasons. the government does have an approach to this which is the channel programme, which has reached out to several thousand individuals that have gone through this. three quarters allegedly from islamist

backgrounds and around 25% who are considered to be far right terrorists. there is a spectrum of individuals on the programme which the government is trying to do. i think the bigger problem is civil society. which is what we can do to tackle this. what can we do to help asa tackle this. what can we do to help as a community and society to stop the process of radicalisation within different parts of our society, stop the polarisation. we chat individuals we know of and provide support. in that regard there are lots of activities that are happening, but there‘s a huge gap in terms of what the extremists are doing, what they are priscilla tithing and how they are active online. if you look at britain first, they‘ve got it enormous following on facebook. 0ur response frankly has been, let‘sjust

following on facebook. 0ur response frankly has been, let‘s just say, not as effective, not as impactful or resourceful. what do you think are the most effective ways of stopping someone being radicalised? we know there isn't a single profile. khalid masood was a 52—year—old man, that has caused shock among many young people because the assumption is its young people. there is no single profile. it's really important to recognise that it's a multi pronged approach. there is no one solution. there is no one answer, there has to be a multi pronged approach and engaged with all sections of society. i believe schools have a huge role to play in terms of building resilience, teaching young people critical thinking skills so they don't buy into online propaganda that we see available online, or in communities. faith institutions have a very important role to play in teaching theological counter narratives to extremist ideology. khalid masood, there were concerns

around him holding extreme views. i agree that the role of civil society is really critical. we need to be engaging with the police, we need to be reporting people if we have concerns to the anti—terrorist hotline. i feel there concerns to the anti—terrorist hotline. ifeelthere is concerns to the anti—terrorist hotline. i feel there is a gap where we recognise that we need to effectively counter the speech, come to the arguments, challenge those within our society who are promoting extremist views, because we know for a fa ct extremist views, because we know for a fact there are. i think it's really important we don't underestimate the reality. we know that mi5 underestimate the reality. we know that m15 in the past have said they are monitoring 3000 violent british islamist extremists wanting to cause harm to our country. we know that there have been hundreds who have travelled to syria to join jihadists organisations. we know there have been around 269 people convicted for islamist terrorism offences. there's

clearly a problem. it requires a multi pronged response from all sections of society, government, police, education and civil society. are we getting better at stopping radicalisation in this country? this has been an ongoing debate and there are programmes in place, the prevent programme, to try to do that.” think we are improving in respect of understanding the variety of ways in which we can intervene. if you think about prevent, it's been very difficult to actually measure that in terms of establishing clear indicators of success. they did have a national indicator that they removed because it was so difficult to actually measure the success of prevent programmes. when you look at the work being undertaken on the ground, you can see that even across boroughs, even a few streets away from one another, prevent can take many different forms. for example, engaging with mothers to teach them

about internet safety so they can pass that on. in another street, it could be engaging with youth groups to look at identity issues. on another road, it could be engaging with the facilities that can actually host guest speakers in making sure they are aware of the hate laws and that they are aware of the speakers coming in to engage within their facilities. this is a 52—year—old man and that has caused surprise, it‘s somebody who is older and doesn‘t fit the normal profiles. what are your thoughts on what has happened? it's already been mentioned that there is no straightforward profiles are individuals who engage in armed violence. usually we associate armed and political violence with young people but this case shows there is no one rule that applies to the whole process. i think when we use terms such as radicalisation and extremism, we are extremely careful as to these terms. the reason why i say that is because the term

radicalisation, which has gained so much traction, is based on a framework that doesn‘t actually have any evidence. when we talk about radicalisation, the official definition is the process by which an individual leaves nonviolence and becomes engaged in armed violence. there is no empirical evidence to prove the core reason individuals become involved in armed violence, which the government‘s prevent strategy says is ideology, actually causes terrorism. we have to make sure that we aren‘t using these terms and critically. the same applies to the turn extremism. 0ne of your guests just referred to political violence through violent extremist islamist. these are polemical turns that don‘t mean anything. what they eventually do is play, according to this historic discourse, in which we, the civilised west, are at war with a barbaric opponent that cannot be

brought to the table. the anyway we can defeat them is by basically excluding them. partially one of the reasons why political violence has become, or a militarised form of activism by muslims, has become more normalised, is because the geopolitical situation and the international structures of the world powers essentially exclude muslims from articulating an identity that seeks to govern according to a political interpretation of their faith. i think until we recognise that these are the drivers of political violence, politicalfactors, we can sit here and talk about radicalisation and extremism and how we can implement more bollards outside parliament or structure our landscapes to ensure security. but the reality is, there will always be somebody who will be willing to jump into a somebody who will be willing to jump intoa carand somebody who will be willing to jump into a car and pick up a knife and undertake acts of violence. i would issue a word of caution around using these terms uncritically and look at

these terms uncritically and look at the empirical evidence, which doesn‘t give us a simple profile into why people become involved in political violence. partly i would agree with some of that. there is no singular profile. there were some factual mistakes that were made in terms of the government's perspective on this. it isn't that ideology is the cause, it's multifactorial and there's a lot of literature they put out to explain that. it is one of the primary motivating factor is that they say is extremist ideology. as i was saying, they've explained there is multiple factors, ideology being one of them. in terms of being able to understand that and put it into context, if you have an individual who has very strong political grievances, somebody who has personal, psychological issues maybe. if you take this as an example, not that we know the

details but khalid masood obviously has a violent past. he's someone who is disposition and towards violence. a lot of people obviously have strong political views and don‘t turn to violence. exactly. there's a danger in what the other guest was saying which was to create the idea thatjust because you have strong political views, that means you are inclined towards violence. it's not true. i'm not saying that. it's a dangerous part of what you were saying, it implies that strong political views somehow lead to violence, that's not the case. that‘s what the government is framing its prevent infrastructure on. i did think anybody has said that except yourself. let's let sara come in. i think there is a clear misunderstanding of what the government's position on radicalisation is, on prevent. if you look at the channel guidance, it makes it clear that there is no

single profile. it lists a range of different factors. it could be bullying, peer pressure and mental health issues. the beauty of channel and prevent in particular if it can recognise a multitude of vulnerabilities and should be able to be flexible enough to recognise that. 0ne one of those factors could be ideology, i have come across many young people in my years as an activist and they have highlighted how their children have been radicalised and given violent extremist views. we cannot underestimate that either but i think it is important to recognise that it think it is important to recognise thatitis think it is important to recognise that it is not a one size fits all solution, but the fact is we have to recognise that there is a problem and on the issue of channel i rememberthe and on the issue of channel i remember the former director—general in the office for counterterrorism, he gave an interesting speech where he gave an interesting speech where he said 70% of people who went through the channel scheme did not

need further intervention or help, showing that channel and prevent is working, and if there was not channel all prevent, what would we have in place to provide support to those people in our country who are at risk of radicalisation? at the moment, those who oppose prevent have not offered any other strategy to help people who are prepared to carry out these acts against our country. we're out of time. .. very briefly. the point about channel and mentioning mental health, etc, these sound like legitimate points but the key point is that we are lumping the blame on the individual rather than looking at the political reality within which the individual operates, saying, this is nothing to do with us, and if you look at the history of the world it has everything to do with us. thank you. sorry, we are out of time, we‘ve got

lots more ground to cover on the programme, but thank you all very much. ijust want much. i just want to bring another comment on armed police because this is one aspect of what we have been talking about this morning, it has got lots of comments from you. phil says, as a serving officer i would advise that most officers do not want to carry firearms for one reason and one reason alone, when we are forced to use them we get crucified by the cps, the courts, politicians and the media. any officer could look forward to 18 to 24 months of uncertainty, not knowing if they are going to jail or going to lose their job and pension. the officers and decisions they make in an instant under extreme pressure are judged decisions they make in an instant under extreme pressure arejudged by armchair experts who have never had to face life or death decision. whilst i agree there must be oversight and transparency, at the moment we have a witchhunt. thank you for that, keep them coming. also coming up... coping with the aftermath of terror. we‘ll hear from some who have witnessed horrific events across europe in recent years.

with the news, here‘s annita in the bbc newsroom. thank you, good morning. a fourth victim who died last night after being knocked down in the westminster attack has been named by police as 75—year—old leslie rhodes from streatham, in south london. two people remain in hospital in a critical condition. two police officers hurt in the attack are also in hospital with "significant injuries". in a statement this morning, police investigating the attack have revealed that they‘ve made two further significant arrests overnight. nine people are now in custody, one woman has been released on bail. police have also revealed the attacker, khalid masood, was previously called adrian russell ajao. the police have appealed for information from anyone who‘d known him well. the former president of egypt, hosni mubarak, who was overthrown after the arab spring uprisings of 2011, has been freed from a military hospital.

mubarak served almost six years in detention on charges of killing protesters in the uprising that ended his 30—year rule. but earlier this month an appeals court cleared him of these charges let‘s speed now to our correspondent in cairo. presumably his release is controversial? definitely, it is controversial, it is disappointing, frustrating to many people who supported the revolution one day, people who took to tahrir square to topple former president mubarak, they saw him as a symbol of corruption and repression so symbol of corruption and repression so the fact that he went back home today having breakfast with his family and friends, as his lawyer told us a short while ago, this is a matter of great frustration and disappointment to supporters of the revolution. but on the other hand

there are some of the people who see mubarak asa there are some of the people who see mubarak as a story of the past, they just focus on egypt today, concerned more about the economic conditions, the political situation, so there are people who see this as frustration and disappointment, and there are others who just want to focus on what is lying ahead, and they just considered mubarak something from the past. but still, his release today lies in sharp contradiction with having tens of thousands of political prisoners behind bars according to many local ngos, so the fact that this man was seen as a ngos, so the fact that this man was seen as a symbol of corruption and oppression by some people is free while many political activist and political prisoners are behind bars still brings a lot of disappointment, especially to those who supported the revolution more than six years ago. sally, thank you for that. bad behaviour in english schools is not being dealt with properly and pupils‘ performance is being negatively effected. that‘s the view of

the the government‘s school behaviour expert, tom bennett. in a review published today, he says more funding and better training are needed to tackle the issue. the report also recommends that school inspectors pay more attention to behaviour issues, and warns they are often glossed over when schools produce good results. the president of the european commission has told the bbc that the eu will not seek to punish britain during brexit negotiations. speaking on the eve of the eu‘s 60th anniversary celebrations, jean—claude juncker said the exit talks will be approached fairly but warned that britain will be held to financial commitments made during its time as a full member. customers should be paid automatic compensation by their phone companies for problems with landlines and broadband. the telecoms regulator 0fcom says providers should pay customers for slow repairs, delayed connections and missed appointments. the plans could affect more than 2.5 million customers who would receive up to £185 million in new compensation payments every year. at the moment, compensation is only paid to a small number of customers.

that‘s a summary of the latest news, join me for bbc newsroom live at 11am. here‘s some sport now with hugh. lewis hamilton called his first day of the new formula one season "99% perfect" after finishing fastest in both practice sessions ahead of the australian grand prix. he was more than half a second quicker than the rest in the second session and that, in formula one, particularly with the new faster cars, is a lot. that lap allowed him to finish ahead of ferrari‘s sebastian vettel and new mercedes teammate valteri bottas in melbourne. tottenham‘s dele alli is banned for three european club games after his red card during the europa league tie against gent. the suspension will be served if spurs get into europe next season. soren kjeldsen‘s win at the wgc match play golf sends

rory mcilroy crashing out. and the world number two didn‘t even play after his opponent withdrew. as a result kjeldsen needed just a half to prevent mcilroy reaching the knockout stage. he got the point he needed, mcilroy is out. and david haye has been called before boxing authorities to explain his comments in the build—up to his heavyweight defeat to tony bellew last month. haye had graphically described the injuries that he hoped to inflict on his opponent. that is all gosport borough now, more on bbc news throughout the day. last night a candlelit vigil was held in trafalgar square to remember those who lost their lives and were injured in the westminster terror attack. among thousands who attended we re attack. among thousands who attended were religious leaders from a number of faith is keen to show unity and bring communities together. people have tried to tear this city

apart with acts of terror many times before. they have never succeeded, and they never will. applause. we come together as londoners tonight to remember those who have lost their lives and all those affected by the horrific attack yesterday. londoners will never be cowed by terrorism will stop applause. as london and the uk begin to come to terms with what has happened, how does the healing process start, and is it possible to move forward? well, we can now speak to four people who have witnessed terror attacks that have happened across europe in recent years about their experiences and how they learnt to cope with what they‘d been through and deal with the aftermath. joining us via skype from nice is peter chesley, who was almost hit

by a truck in the nice attack last summer. sumit gupta owns a restaurant in brussels, he can talk to us about how he was impacted by the suicide bombings there last year. we can also talk to dave richmond. he‘s on the phone in blackpool, and got caught up in the berlin terror attack last christmas. peter, you were nearly hit by the truck in nice, what happened to you? i was on the promenade with lots of other people after watching the fireworks in celebration, and i was with my ex—girlfriend, we were one of the luckier ones, really, because the truck mistrust by a few metres. it came between us, my girlfriend went one way, i went the other way, it just missed bus went one way, i went the other way, itjust missed bus but i watched the truck the whole way because of the swirling to make sure i didn‘t run in front of it. i saw lots of people

get hit and some people die. what impact has that had on you? locally, the kind of person i am, it didn‘t have as much impact on me as maybe it has on others, and as i know it has on others. my girlfriend, ex—girlfriend, is still having treatment in terms of with a psychiatrist, but for me it was quite a quick process to kind of come to terms with it. i‘m a logical, rational person, and i know, before it happened i knew it could happen, i know which could happen again, it‘s the kind of world we live in, so i‘m kind of prepared as much as i can be for these things. and how do you do that? you say you know it could happen again, does that mean you go around in fear? no, no, i don't let these

things affect my life any more than it has already. it affected me because i was there and i had to deal with the situation, look after my ex—girlfriend, and kind of process the information, but i don‘t let these things affect my life any more than it has to. sumit, you own a hotel near to where the brussels bombings happened. what was the impact on you of that attack? for us, it is like every other business because brussels got highlighted too much, in the news and everything, a lot of people stopped coming to brussels so it is not only me but like a lot of other small businesses they got impacted because we are in they got impacted because we are in the centre of brussels, most of the companies moved their meetings out of brussels to other cities, so it isa of brussels to other cities, so it is a bit of financial loss but for sure it is nothing as compared to the lives which people are losing, so the lives which people are losing, soi the lives which people are losing, so i don't care too much about the

financial losses but it is a pity, what i would say, it is a pity these things are happening still, we need to get control of it. obviously you are putting it in context but it is your livelihood and affected by things out of your control. indeed, we have to see the bigger picture, all these incidents affecting people like us owning some businesses and other cities, i'm sure it happened in these as well, tourism got affected —— in nice, people stop going to these places for some time, i think it is the same in berlin, so we just have to stick together and not let them when, that is what i will say, you know? we cannotjust, how do you say, make them win by not visiting those cities or avoiding those cities, because it can happen anywhere, like the other guy was

telling, i forgot his name, but it can happen any time, anywhere, you cannotjust stop can happen any time, anywhere, you cannot just stop living. they are losses for business and everything, but for sure we will recover soon. dave, you were caught up in the berlin attack. tell us the impact it had a new and actually what happened to you. i think we have now lost dave, we will try to re—establish the connection. i think we can talk to frederica lad who was in the stadium during the paris attacks in november 2000 and 15. thank you for joining us, what happened to you? frederik, can you hear me? no, i think we‘ve lost our connection to frederik as well. peter, you were

both talking very resiliently about not letting things like this define your lives. what would you say to people in london who may be feeling vulnerable? even if you aren‘t directly caught up in something, it can still have a big impact.” couldn‘t give any advice, but, like i‘ve already said, we know these things happen, and we know that they normally happen in important cities like london, new york, nice and the other cities as well. so we kind of have two, unfortunately we have to prepare ourselves. we should be preparing ourselves mentally to deal with this kind of situation if we can, if it happens. the more we can prepare ourselves, the more we can cope afterwards. in terms of coping

afterwards, all i could say is what i‘m doing, it seems to be working. by i‘m doing, it seems to be working. by worrying about it afterwards, by fearing it afterwards, it affects our life even more. it doesn‘t help us, if we think like that. i know it‘s easier said than done. i‘m not saying it‘s easy. i think we need to be as strong as we can and just to think that these things do happen. we have to deal with them as well as possible. have you come up with practical solutions for you in terms of being out and about? you were caught up in a situation similar to the one in london, a car, a vehicle is deliberately driven into pedestrians. if you are out there is a fear of that happening, are their practical ideas to have in mind?”

suppose, to be more vigilant. we don‘t want, when we leave our house, we don‘t want to keep looking at ca rs we don‘t want to keep looking at cars or planes or people. i think we need to try to, i‘ve heightened my sense of vigilance a little bit. especially when i‘m on the promenade because i‘m not afraid of the area, irun because i‘m not afraid of the area, i run there, i go there, it‘s a beautiful place. but i‘m slightly more wary now. but it‘s kind of, it‘s an indirect thing. i‘m not letting my wariness affect my enjoyment of the area or what i do in life. thank you both. still to come, we‘ll be looking at the role of social media in

radicalisation. i‘vejust received more of your comments. 0ne viewer says, as a true muslim i totally condemn the killing of innocent people and islam is the religion of peace. we don‘t allow killing of innocent people in any circumstances. i call upon all miss ins we need to stand together and ta ke ins we need to stand together and take a stand that islam against the so—called muslims. an e—mail says, front line police should be armed, sta b front line police should be armed, stab proof vests must be warm. police dogs must be situated in all government buildings —— stab proof vests must be worn. another viewer says, what is the point of a police officer standing outside parliament if he isn‘t equipped to deal with the kind of threat. khalid masood has been proven to stay in a hotel in brighton the night before the attack, we‘ve been speaking to the hotel manager. the police came on

wednesday night to start their investigation. i was called at home quite late at night by the police. they asked for my advice and... they asked the staff questions, we are quite open to this. it‘s normal for us. quite open to this. it‘s normal for us. 0bviously quite open to this. it‘s normal for us. obviously we were trying to run our business at the same time. yesterday we had police in the hotel, investigating, seeing the room, interviewing all the staff in the middle of our service. it was a bit inconvenient but we had to cooperate with them and try to help to give them all the information. luckily, we have all the back—up for this. we have the contact, the address, the telephone number, the person‘s name. we have all this for the police and all the staff. most

of the staff have been interviewed by the police and given the correct information to assist them with their enquiries. did he give his address as birmingham? yes. he gave the correct address and the registration card when he checked in. but later on i heard on the news that the address in birmingham was correct. everything he said to us was correct, his correct name and address, telephone number, everything he gave us when he checked in is correct and is the same as what was mentioned in the news later on. and the car that he checked into your car part, was that the same car that was used in the london atrocities? yes, we haven't seen london atrocities? yes, we haven't seen the registration in the paper yet but however, it‘s 90% the same car. we know it was a great car, a four by four. —— four by four. it‘s

the same car. we request car registration numbers when people check in. the car looked the same as the one he... my colleagues saw the carand she the one he... my colleagues saw the car and she confirmed it was the same car. we need to confirm the registration number. that's the manager of a hotel in brighton where it has emerged khalid masood stayed the night before the attack in london. to bring the right up—to—date with all the latest developments, police have said they‘ve made two more significant arrests in connection with the attack in westminster. the suspects we re attack in westminster. the suspects were held overnight in the west midlands and the north—west. weevils are learned this morning that the birth name of khalid masood was adrian russell ajao. earlier i spoke

to dani singer who witnessed the attack on the bridge. people on the other side of the bus saw what happened. some on uncharted, if anyone has first aid training they should get off the bus and help. i went to the first person i saw who looked like they weren‘t being attended to. it was a man who had quite a significant head injury and potentially other injuries we couldn‘t see. at that point we didn‘t really know that anything else was going to happen, it hadn‘t even happened yet. what helped did you give? the other chap who was with me helping the gentleman was a medic. there wasn‘t a lot we could practically do, it was just monitoring polls and breathing and checking his airways were clear. i was just talking to him, checking his airways were clear. i wasjust talking to him, he checking his airways were clear. i was just talking to him, he was unconscious but you‘re never aware of what people are aware of themselves. so i was talking to him,

describing when the ambulances were coming and hoping that some part of him was registering our presence and that we were there to help him. do you know how he is now? i've got no idea. as he said, you didn't know it was a terror attack happening. you went off when the ambulances arrived, when did you discover what had actually happened?” arrived, when did you discover what had actually happened? i went to wash my hands basically and then i came back to the people i was with on the bus. we had to be diverted all the way around. it was about ten minutes later when i realised from what they had said there had been gunshots fired and a police officer had been stabbed. then we put two and two together and realised it was probably part of the same incident and it was probably a terrorist attack. how did you feel at that point? i wanted to get away as quickly as possible. the area was so hectic with armed police and paramedics and sirens, so ijust wa nted paramedics and sirens, so ijust wanted to get home as soon as

possible, really. your image has become one of the images used many times on the day. as soon as i got home i had people contacting me, a friend in hungary contacted me because he said his sister in israel had seen the picture of me and wa nted had seen the picture of me and wanted to check i was ok. i had a few people getting in touch saying they had seen that and then people phoning saying they saw me on the knees. that was really strange, just to be part of, to be someone‘s reference point —— saying they saw me on the news. there were lots of injured people along the bridge, you obviously went straight to one person and focused on helping them, but were you able to take in much of what was going on around you and how other people were reacting? not really. we were aware of the people, we could see who had been injured. the longer we stay the more apparent it was more and more people have been injured further up the bridge. at one point when the photograph was

taken, i wasn‘t even aware of that. i was just looking to ambulances and her any progress, really. i was just looking to ambulances and herany progress, really. i i was just looking to ambulances and her any progress, really. i wasn‘t aware of that. could you describe the way people work? was it people reacting calmly in dealing with the situation, was their chaos? it wasn‘t chaotic. everyone dealt with it amazingly, especially the nhs staff at st thomas who came running out, saying, what can i do? they are obviously very close, how quickly we re obviously very close, how quickly were people there? within, it felt like seconds. maybe it was one or two minutes. there was a chap at one point he came next to me and said, i‘m on holiday but i‘m a doctor, what can i do? all the civilians who helped, maybe people without the training, they werejust helped, maybe people without the training, they were just there to be doing whatever need to be done. the police response was incredibly quick, also. isuppose

police response was incredibly quick, also. i suppose everything went smoothly as far as the response was concerned. as went smoothly as far as the response was concerned. as a went smoothly as far as the response was concerned. as a londoner how do you feel now? i feel affected by having been there but i don‘t feel affected as a londoner. you don't feel more vulnerable?” affected as a londoner. you don't feel more vulnerable? i don't. this is the sort of thing that we keep in the back of our minds that could happen at any time. as everybody is saying, london is open and we stand united. i‘m certainly not going to use this as an excuse to be more afraid of the different communities who make up london. in fact, it has solidified in me the fact london is a multicultural, diverse city and we can celebrate that through our unity, together. dani singer who was one of the first at the scene of the attack on westminster bridge. just to remind you of the appeal police have been making for eyewitnesses to get in touch. they

say, we remain keen to hearfrom anyone who knew khalid masood well, who knows his associates and can provide us with information about places he has recently visited. there may be people out there with concerns about him but didn‘t feel co mforta ble concerns about him but didn‘t feel comfortable in passing those concerns on. police are trying to piece together exactly what led to khalid masood being radicalised, carrying out that attack in westminster on wednesday with the loss of four members of the public. 75—year—old leslie rhodes has been named as the latest victim to have died. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. have a good day. good morning. nota bad good morning. not a bad day. there‘s quite a lot of this sort of thing

going on at the moment. but there‘s also a going on at the moment. but there‘s alsoafairamount going on at the moment. but there‘s also a fair amount of this. quite a bit of cloud with some rain flirting with the south—western quarter of the british isles. hopefully through the british isles. hopefully through the afternoon some of the cloud will fizzle away and the rain should quit the scene. further north, enough cloud for the odd spot of something in the far north of scotland. in between quite a bit of dry weather but it will be a cold night, with a widespread frost. at least that converts into a glorious day on saturday. high pressure is very much the dominant feature. still quite windy in the south, and with the onshore breeze the temperature will be 8-10 onshore breeze the temperature will be 8—10 celsius. further west 17 or possibly even 18. on sunday much the same sort of thing. perhaps more cloud, still that breeze across the south. we‘re looking at highs of 14-15. this is bbc news.

i‘m ben brown at westminster, where more details are emerging about the man who carried out the westminster terror attack. khalid masood was born adrian russell ajao in dartford in kent. questions are being asked about how the 52—year—old decided to convert to radical islam. police make two more significant arrests overnight and are trawling through massive amounts of computer data. they have urge the public to help them. there might well be people out there who did have concerns about khalid masood but weren‘t sure did not feel

co mforta ble masood but weren‘t sure did not feel comfortable for whatever reason in passing that information to us. i know i urge anyone with such information call us. i know i urge anyone with such information call us. an american tourist posts a picture of murdered police officer keith palmer, taken less than an hour before