it soothes the coptic companies for eve ryo ne it soothes the coptic companies for everyone to think that a paper cup that goes into a paper waste to cheney is going to get recycled, because if people think that is happening, then they will be activated about it and want something done. here is the coffee cup andi something done. here is the coffee cup and i wasjust something done. here is the coffee cup and i was just outside passed a dustbinjust outside the cup and i was just outside passed a dustbin just outside the bbc and here's a classic example of a whole bunch of cops in the back of this spin that are not going to get recycled. suppose a brush companies, mighty boycott make sense? in the end, somebody has to say we've got it, we got the recyclable coffee cup and if they genuinely have and have and if they genuinely have and have a solution i would encourage people to choose them over other copy companies who have not got that. if one of the big chains now landed the

fully recyclable cup, i think their sales will go up massively. companies like that, they like massive sales, that is an excellent reason for them to crack on with it. thank you. with me is edward kosior, the managing director of nextek who provide solutions to the challenges of the plastic recycling. why is it so difficult to make a recycla ble why is it so difficult to make a recyclable coffee why is it so difficult to make a recycla ble coffee cu p 7 why is it so difficult to make a recyclable coffee cup? well, we think there must be made paper and board, but if you look inside, it has a layer polyethylene plastic that stops the coffee leaking. that makes it as difficult to recycle as paper, so the need to be different approach. you need a more intensive process or a new technology that has combine it, including extra plastics to bind the fibres are you turn it into a to bind the fibres are you turn it intoa building to bind the fibres are you turn it into a building material. then it is a mouldable product and can make trays for copy shops, table tops,

benches, sidewalls, flooring, too. it turns into a plastic paper composite which is a structural and long—lived material. composite which is a structural and long-lived material. how much more expensive is it? it is the same as the config that exists now. we just have to collect them and recycle them. we use the film as part of a binding system. become part lies the molecules and make it a strong structure. they can be recycled. is not happening yet because it's taken a while for it to grow and is now being done to the public eye once they get behind it we can have the coffee stores getting and the collection process. once we have the collection process. once we have the

collection we can turn it into products. when you have bins outside coffee shops? we are doing that now, but we need to get a mixture of materials. you'd be surprised what goes into the bins. a lot of these cups end up my street. that's because they have no value. if coffee shops give people a credit perk up, the coffee cups would walk in the door. we could collect them and turn them into valuable products. that is a way forward. thank you. now it's time for meet the author. three sisters, three queens, is a novel of the women who became queens of england, scotland and france, and who were condemned to rivalry, family conflict and a bloody struggle for succession. a novelist doesn't have to invent that story, it was the real story of the early 16th century, after katherine of aragon arrived as a tudor bride.

phillippa gregory has spun the story of that period in a string of best—selling novels and this is her latest subject: three sisters, three queens. welcome. even by 16th century standards it is a great story. how well do you think this bit of the whole saga is understood and remembered? in a way, it's a really classic example of fiction and history put together that the story of three sisters, three queens is a construct but what we're actually talking about is the history of katherine of aragon in the relatively early years of her marriage

to henry viii and the quite separate his of his two sisters. but then as a novelist i come to these histories, and go, like but they actually are sisters, they know of each other. and as it happens, the rise and fall of their success of their lives and in their kingdoms and in theirfertility, compares and contrast almost exactly. so it's is a very nice example for me of what you can do in fiction that you wouldn't necessarily do in history. but of course the history itself, which hangs over the whole story, your fictional account of it, is so extraordinary, the fate of nations, you know, hanging on a marriage, on a rivalry, on an unexpected death, whatever it happens to be. it seems to me, i hope this is not pushing it too far, but it's strangely contemporary about how the fate of nations can change in the wink of an eye, whether it's a royal marriage or a referendum?

i think one of the reasons that i love the tudor period so much is that you get these enormous consequences from the decisions of one person. so if you look at the one person, you really get a way into the history which is completely fascinating. so you do get this big national story focussed on, in this instance, the choice of james of scotland to marry margaret, henry viii‘s sister, which puts the two countries into total unity. and in the end produces the child that will unify the two countries. just take us through the three of them. because the rivalries that, that sort of entangled them in the course of a few years had huge consequences? we know the wives very well. there's been very much less work done on the sisters, and almost no work done on the mistresses. i really think that what you see there is an example of the

historical selection, which goes like, "we don't "want that many women in the record, thank you. "we've got six wives, let's leave the sisters out of it." which means you actually, really, rarely, for the tudor period, you have these on told stories. so the stories that we do know is katherine of aragon and she arrives in the novel as she arrives pretty well in the english court asa princess from spain and immediately attracts, in my version of events, the jealously and the affronted envy of margaret who until then was the top princess at the henry viii court. and the other girl in the mix is mary, henry's other sister, younger sister, famously beautiful. famously willful, who is married off to the very, very old king of france and recovers from that really disastrous marriage for her, political

marriage, to marry the man of her choice. so you've got these three very, very differen stories about princesses who are married to make the allowances for their family and how they survive that experience. it's the question that you have come to know very well over the years, how much liberty do you feel free to take with the history for which you have so much affection and so much respect? i don't take liberty with the history. i know authors who do and i think they're right to take whatever choice they want... but you are dealing with characters at a depth that we can't know? where i believe that i'm right to go into fiction, where i love the process of going into fiction, is saying, if she did that, she must have been

feeling this or be wanting to be doing this, or this is an expression of this sort of character. so i start, the fiction comes out of the history, but first of all i look at what's happened, and then i say if somebody behaves like that, then they must be a woman of this nature. you've lived with this gang, so to speak, for such a long time now! i've been married to henry they viii longer than any wife! and of these three women, the three sisters, the three queens, as you describe them in the title of the book, which one draws you in most? you say that katherine of aragon because of the marriage to henry is the one that we know, whether accurately or not, which of them attracts you the most? it is very... in the sense, which you like best, is not the same as who is the most interesting. so you've got two things going on there. i have great affection for katherine of aragon, i think she was an extraordinary, courageous woman. margaret, henry's sister, lives an amazing life.

she's married as a very young woman to james of scotland, and then when widowed she chooses her husband and has to run away from scotland, she gets to england, she divorces him, she marries a third husband for choice. she's behaving as if she was in total charge of her own destiny. and of course the loss of her first husband is the fault of the english court? the loss of her first husband is planned as a campaign by katherine of aragon. so you have this terrible dark side of the sisterhood that they are always rivals and that it is katherine of aragon's campaign that kills her brother—in—law. you can't read about this events, whether in straight history or fiction, without a mind—boggling feeling of everything that subsequently came is determined by some of these — almost chance events? mmm. i think the idea of history, as in the past is another country, when you are a historian, you get this real double view of it. on the one hand you go

like, "yes, it is almost completely separate from our world and completely different, yet you can see how then the actions then produce the consequences of today." i mean the whole concept of nationhood, the way the reformation reformation separates us from europe. the way england and scotland are absolutely committed enemies for centuries before the unification, you know these are in a sense really current ideas which were being worked out then and to which they came to some conclusions. and the union of the crowns itself in 1603, a century or so before the union of the parliament, came about really by accident because of what had happened in the period you are talking about? absolutely, it's margaret's granddaughter‘s boy. you just go like, this, and she of course, thinks all the time, when she is queen of scotland when katherine of aragon is failing to have an heir, she knows that her boy will be king

of scotland and king of england, it's only henry's decision to marry on until he gets a male heir, that means that margaret is not in fact the mother of the king of england. which explains why the fascination continues. phillippa gregory, author of three sisters, three queens, thank you very much. thank you. time for a look at the weather now. southerly winds brought warmth across the country today. but it wasn't all warmer, we had some rain. mostly wasn't all warmer, we had some rain. m ostly ru n wasn't all warmer, we had some rain. mostly run the irish sea and we've even seen showers mostly run the irish sea and we've even seen showers running into the warmer weather and those will continue northwards. hit and miss. most rain at further west. developing across south has lingered in wales. what a cloud. after today,

it will be a mild night. tomorrow, rain. shift northwards and turns dry in south—west england and wales. sunny in northern ireland. rain moving northwards across scotland. showers possibly following across eastern parts, but sunshine, too. fresh air, not too bad for most of us fresh air, not too bad for most of us in the afternoon. april showers on saturday. fine weather on sunday. hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. a starred with some news that has come in. the hosted south korean president has been arrested on corruption charges. the syrian war is now in its seventh year. today the bbc is focusing on the day—to—day lives many have to live with violence all around. in syria, in a place which has seen

some of the worst fighting of the war, now an ordinary day with children going to school and having fun. lyse doucet has returned to the syrian city of homs. the uk has begun the process of repealing a0 years of eu laws — it's not going to be easy. our laws will be made in london, edinburgh, cardiff and belfast.