tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News April 13, 2017 9:00am-11:01am BST
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hello. it's thursday — it's 9 o'clock, i'm chloe tilley, welcome to the programme. for more than two years, a mother thought her daughter had been cannibalised by a drug addict just out of prison. paula yemm says she was let down appallingly by the police and the authorities. we'll hear from the family of cerys yemm just after 9:15. also today — grammar schools should give priority to children from every background. that's what education secretary justine greening will say later, when she counters claims they're just for the privileged few. that can really give children from ordinary working families a great start. what we are saying is that we want them to see do a much strongerjob for disadvantaged children. and it was the school siege which shocked russia, and the world. more than a thousand people were taken hostage in beslan in 200a. a ruling is due today on whether the russian government should have done more to prevent it. we talk to a survivor who was held hostage. she was just eight, and her mother was killed. hello. welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning. lots for you to get in touch with today. do you think grammar schools are fair in their selection process? the government says it wants to make it easier for children from poorer
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homes to get in let us know your thoughts on that. and we're talking about how things should be divided up in a divorce as celebrities find new ways to hang onto their fortunes. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning — use the hashtag #victorialive and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story: the education secretary, justine greening, will say today that new grammar schools in england would be "truly open to all", including children from what she'll call "ordinary working families" — and notjust the privileged few. but new analysis from the government shows a majority of selective school places go to more affluent families. chris mason is at westminster and is following the story for us. what exactly is being proposed? what exactly is being proposed 7m essence, the government is starting an arms race to try to make the case forgrammar an arms race to try to make the case for grammar schools. the prime minister is an advocate for grammar schools, she went to one herself,
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but she knows andy education secretary knows that there is a lot of persuading to do, notjust many in the teaching profession and indeed on labour's benches, but quite a number of conservative mps, too, so they are trying to make the argument that any new set of grammar schools would be different in their outlook and indeed in who they recruited from the current set of grammar schools. but she isn't saying that there would be any kind of quota, or she is not willing to put a number on it. here isjustine greening making the case, i spoke to her in the last hour, about why she wa nts to her in the last hour, about why she wants to see an expansion of grammar schools in england. i think we have always recognised the debate. we need to work out where they fit in ina need to work out where they fit in in a 20th—century education system, we need a stronger role in lifting
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standards for all systems. we want a new model of grammar schools for those new grammars that will come through in response to local community demand where that is. lots of people may be relieved to hear the government not talking about brexit, but something that actually affect them. i am one of those people relieved, because i spend my entire working life to have the word brexit tumbling out of my mouth every second, so it is nice to work ona every second, so it is nice to work on a story that doesn't involve leaving the european union! one of the government's biggest challenges isjuggling the the government's biggest challenges is juggling the gargantuan task of the uk's departure from the european union, everything that involves in terms of the negotiations to come in brussels and with the other 27 heads of state and governments around the european table, all of the legislation has to go through
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parliament to enact the brexit process , parliament to enact the brexit process, and crucially, as you say, getting on with stuff that matters day—to—day in terms of education and the health service and transport and so the health service and transport and so many other issues. the ruzza recognition in government of the inevitability that other stuff will get squeezed in terms of attention span, times, debating space and the scope for legislation. it is something the prime minister is very keen on, and so there is clearly a desire to press ahead, but the government is well aware that they have a persuading job to do. thank you, chris mason at westminster, and we will be talking about that at great length later on in the programme. annita mcveigh is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the days news. thank you, chloe. good morning. president trump has said relations with russia may be at an all—time low — after his secretary of state failed to persuade russia to stop backing
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president assad of syria. mr trump also said he believes nato is "no longer obsolete", reversing a stance that had alarmed allies. from washington, laura bicker reports. vladimir putin said this us attack was an act of aggression. but donald trump said it was in response to a suspected war crime. the us believes the syrian president was responsible for using chemical weapons against civilians. at a press conference alongside the nato secretary—general, mr trump condemned bashar al—assad. that's a butcher, that's a butcher. so i felt we had to do something about it. i have absolutely no doubt we did the right thing, and it was very, very successfully done, as you well know. earlier, russia vetoed a un security council resolution that would have compelled the syrian president to co—operate with an investigation into the attack, a response president trump described as disappointing. it would be wonderful, as we were discussing just a little while ago, if nato and our country could get along with russia.
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right now, we're not getting along with russia at all. we may be at an all—time low in terms of relationship with russia. this has built for a long period of time. but we're going to see what happens. the us has said relations with russia must improve, but how? the two countries are on opposing sides in a civil war. a lot may depend on how far russia will go to defend the syrian president, and how far the us wants to push to get rid of him. laura bicker, bbc news, washington. a ruling is due today on whether the russian government should have done more to prevent the siege of a school in beslan in 200a. more than 330 people died when security forces stormed a school where chechen separatists had taken more than a thousand people hostage. survivors and parents who lost children argued at the european court of human rights that russia failed in its obligation to protect its citizens' lives.
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workers on virgin trains east coast are to stage a 48—hour strike from april 28th. it's because of a row over the role of guards and jobs. the rmt union said consultation over "widespread on—board changes" has been going on for more than a year, adding that the company had implemented the changes from march with no agreement with the union. the largest nursing union is consulting with its members across the uk on whether they should take industrial action in protest at the government's decision to maintain a one—percent cap on their pay. the royal college of nursing claims low wages are contributing to tens of thousands of unfilled posts and unsafe staffing levels in the nhs. but the government says the health service offers competitive pay. our health correspondent sophie hutchinson reports. unprecedented pressure in the nhs means nurses have never worked harder, and for so little, according to their union. the royal college of nursing
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says due to pay freezes, and then a pay cap, nurses have seen the money they take home cut in real terms by 14% since 2010. it says that's why it has decided to ask staff whether they would be prepared to strike. 270,000 nhs nurses will be able to vote in the online survey over the next few weeks. everybody‘s unhappy. so, most nurses are unhappy with their income. so they're working harder than ever, but there's been years now of absolutely no pay increase. some of our nurses are telling us they absolutely love being a nurse, it's a fantasticjob, but they just don't think they can afford to do it anymore. the royal college of nursing says low pay is driving people away from the profession, and that tens of thousands of posts remain vacant. but the department of health said an extra 12,000 nurses have worked on wards since 2010, and that frontline nhs services are being protected. sophie hutchinson, bbc news. the families of two more babies who died under
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the care of shrewsbury and telford hospital trust are calling for their deaths to be included in the investigation ordered by the health secretary. the review of the trust was announced byjeremy hunt yesterday following the avoidable deaths of seven babies. five died following failures to monitor their heart rate properly during labour. the trust says its mortality levels are in line with the national average. a bbc investigation has found that construction faults, similar to those which led to the closure of 17 schools in edinburgh on safety grounds, have been found at 71 other schools across scotland. although most have been repaired, work has yet to be completed on six of the buildings. the scottish futures trust, which oversees public—private finance projects, says it is reviewing its guidance. coastal areas in parts of new zealand's north island have been evacuated ahead of what's expected to be the most powerful storm to hit the country in 50 years. tropical storm cook is forecast to bring more than a—hundred
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millimetres of rain and winds of up to a—hundred—miles an hour. some areas are already under a state of emergency. a missing link in the evolution of dinosaurs has been discovered at the national history museum in london. on discovering a lost fossil, scientists realised it was from an early cousin of the dinosaur. they found that while it had a long neck and tail, it also walked on all fours more like a modern monitor lizard, or crocodile. it fills a critical gap in the fossil record and indicates that some dinosaur features evolved much earlier than previously thought. police officers were given the run around in london yesterday by a very unusual suspect. a pig caused chaos when it escaped and trotted through lunch—time traffic on the streets of redbridge. a jogger had to dodge the animal, who seemed to take a liking to his fluorescent clothing! a police spokesman said the pig
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was eventually recaptured and returned to its owner. or maybe a cyclist, with that clothing! that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9:30. i wondered at one moment if the police officer was going to pull the pig by the tail, and he thought better fit! lots of you getting pig by the tail, and he thought betterfit! lots of you getting in touch with us a background in schools today. do get in touch. we have had a tweet from fiona, grammar schools offer those who can no longer afford private school fees, kids for poorer families are not there. another says most parents will fund coaching to ensure their children pass the entry exam, and how can this help children from poorer households? the system is corrupt. but why not bring the grammar school
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system to a competency of the eu? not necessary to move young people out of their environment. let's get some sport. olly foster is with us this morning. olly, lots of stories around this week's champions league matches. let's start with leicester. they didn't do too badly last night? it sounds a little patronising, doesn't it? >> it does, you are right! they did really well. so many people thought that they were going to come unstuck playing atletico madrid last night. they only lost 1—0 in the first leg of their quarterfinal. remember this is a new territory for leicester city, they have never gone this far in european competition. antoine griezmann won a penalty, but marc albrighton said straightaway it was outside the box. it certainly was, look at that. it really shouldn't have been a penalty. when video technology is phased in, those
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kind of decisions will not be made. grisman took the penalty himself, so just 1— 02 atletico madrid, third in la liga,, so all to play for. we know it will be a difficult return match, and we have a very good home record at the king power, ourfans enjoy these nights. of course we have to create more chances. remember they turned around a first leg deficit in the last round, was against sevilla, so we will see next week at the king power. and the fan disturbances, we them last night? i must admit my heart sank when video popped up on social media, spanish riot police disperse in
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leicester fa ns spanish riot police disperse in leicester fans on the eve of the match, and also match day it self in the lead up to the game. at least eight arrests were made, a few minor injuries, and gary lineker a former leicester player who was there on broadcast duties, he tweeted he had seen broadcast duties, he tweeted he had seen the footage of some leicester fa ns seen the footage of some leicester fans behaving despicably in madrid, a few idiots ruin it for the decent majority. a lot of them interviewed afterwards, the fans caught up in it, said that the police had been heavy—handed. we have heard that before as well. but the club will be speaking to leicestershire police who were in madrid, as is normal with high—profile away matches, and some of the club's stewards who were shepherding the fans in the city, before deciding whether or not they will make an official complaint, but very ugly indeed some of those pictures. and borussia dortmund, just 2a hours after their bus was attacked they we re after their bus was attacked they were back on the field, but their manager wasn't happy? they were supposed to play on
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tuesday and their coach came under that an attack, three explosions going off on the way to the game on tuesday. uefa decided to postpone the match for 2h hours. they played the match for 2h hours. they played the match for 2h hours. they played the match last night, and dortmund manager said that they were not really consulted as a team about whether they were ready to play the match mentally or physically. the blasts on the way to the match on tuesday saw windows blown out of their courage, and one of their players was hospitalised. a great reception for the team last night before kick—off in this they think hastily arranged fixture. they wore t—shirts in support of their team—mate who needed an operation on a broken wrist. they said it was as if uefa felt that it was just a year can that had been thrown at the result. uefa said they were in touch with all parties and never received any information to suggest that nine of the teams wanted to play. the dortmund player gave a powerful
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interview afterwards saying how traumatised he was by the incident, and he says he will never forget the look on the players' faces as the bomb went off. german world cup winner matthaus called uefa's decision in conference a ball and irresponsible as well. in light of this, perhaps it is no surprise that monaco won 3—2 on the night. this proved to be the matchwinner, and they will take that lead back to monaco next week. not a great night to german football round, because bayern munich also lost their first leg against real madrid, cristiano ronaldo scored a couple. now let me bring you this news just reaching us. the european court of human rights has ruled the russian government should have done more to prevent the beslan school massacre. our reporter can bring us up to date
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with this as it is breaking now. olga, can you tell us more about this ruling today? yes, a ruling by the european court of human rights. the ruling that the victims in total would get 3 million euros compensation, but it is very important, a significant decision, because basically the european court of human rights was their last hope because none of the russian courts have ever held any russian officials responsible for the tragedy which happened in beslan. and relatives of the victims have told the bbc that the victims have told the bbc that the european court of human rights was their last hope and they wanted to bring this tragedy back to life, and they also want officials to learn from their mistakes, the m ista kes learn from their mistakes, the mistakes in that tragedy, and they wa nt to mistakes in that tragedy, and they want to see some of the officials responsible for the tragedy which happened, and the european court of human rights underlined that
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officials had enough information and would have been able to prevent this tragedy from happening, but u nfortu nately tragedy from happening, but unfortunately this has not been done. does this mean the russian government now has to do, what, investigate? theoretically, yes, however there have been a number of investigations over the past 30 yea rs investigations over the past 30 years —— 13 years, but no one was ever held responsible. a number of policemen were under trial but those cases never came to an end. one of the chechens was arrested and accused but many relatives of the victims believe he was actuallyjust one of the many who were supposed to be arrested and go on trial. the relatives at least hoped this would bring the tragedy to light again because russian officials and the
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russian state was trying its best not to bring those tragic days to light again because it raises many questions. olga from moscow, thank you for speaking to us. we will speak about this more after ten o'clock, when we speak to a girl who was actually held inside that school, just eight years old at the time, and she will speak to us after ten o'clock. on 6th november 2014, a young woman — cerys yemm — was murdered by matthew williams, a man with mental health and drug abuse issues who had been released from prison two weeks earlier. the case hit the headlines when it was wrongly dubbed the "cannibal" killing, because the owner of the hostel where it happened believed she'd seen williams eating his victim's face. whilst this later proved to be untrue, cerys' family say they were devastated to hear of the claims through social media and waited two and a half years to discover the truth. williams died after being tasered by police, but now the inquest into cery‘s death has finally concluded and her family believe that if it wasn't for failings in the support and supervision
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he receveived after leaving prison, she would still be alive. go was quirky, beautiful —— cerys was quirky, beautiful, and she had out quite a difficult few years. she had been in a relationship where there was domestic violence, but she was at the point where she was getting things back on track. she had come back home. she was looking to retrain to go into nursing and she was back to her old self, you know, happy, doing lots of nice things with shannon and her brother. she spent hours upstairs in the bedroom reading, and she would be so quiet in the evenings. she didn't go out and socialise an awful lot, and certainly not up until the few weeks
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before the 6th of november, but she had made a new friend and had started to go out a bit more, eat a bit more food, and i did see a change at that point, when she was not coming home when she said she would do, being a bit more secretive, and i was a bit worried at that point. but we would sit down and have talks and she would say, no, ma'am, i am and have talks and she would say, no, ma'am, iam going and have talks and she would say, no, ma'am, i am going to get things back on track, do this, do that, and we thought she would have done what she wanted to. what about you, shannon. what are your memories of your sister? we had some lovely times, went out and played, her birthday. she really did adore me, thought a lot of me, and she always stuck up for me and was there for me. she always wanted to be with me, didn't she? yes, she would do
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anything for anyone. that day, the 6th of november 20 1a. when did you first find out what had happened to cerys ? first find out what had happened to cerys? it was in the early hours of the 6th of november. i had got up and gone to work as normal. and then... the phone came and they said, the police are in the reception for you. which was unusual was myjob. i went through and i said to them, oh, is it about a certain person i was working with? they said, no, it's not, and at that point ijust they said, no, it's not, and at that point i just knew. they said, no, it's not, and at that point ijust knew. and i don't know why, because i had been worried about shannon. she had just passed her test, and i was worried about her test, and i was worried about her driving the car, nights in the dark, bad weather, but ijust said, it is cerys, isn't it? and a sort of
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nodded —— the nodded. they... they began to tell me then and i refused to listen, and it did then isa refused to listen, and it did then is a blah really from then on. that was when our nightmare began —— it was when our nightmare began —— it was a blur from then on. you then had to tell your family, had to tell shannon. i wanted to tell them myself. and i had gone to my mother, to her house, and i said i needed to get hold of shannon at that point, andi get hold of shannon at that point, and i think shannon had called my
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mum, because she had seen things on facebook and then people were calling her and saying, shannon, facebook and then people were calling herand saying, shannon, i hope this isn't true, so then i spoke to shannon and she said, oh, mum, is this true? so, shannon, you actually found out from social media? yes, on facebook. i had people messaging me, because i had already seen posts obviously that there had been a murder in argoed, then i had people messaging me on then i had people messaging me on the stack, people asking me if it was true, is it your sister? then i had to drive home from cardiff, after getting a facebook message, and mum was obviously ryan, couldn't tell me, couldn't speak on the phone andi tell me, couldn't speak on the phone and i said, mum, tell me, please, and i said, mum, tell me, please, and obviously there was traffic from cardiff so i was sitting in the car crying, thinking, it is not true, is it? and obviously i had tried to ring cerys, but i didn't get an
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answer, but at the time i didn't think it was weird because i didn't getan think it was weird because i didn't get an answer from my brother either, so i thought neither of them we re either, so i thought neither of them were answering... what does that do to you as a family, coming to terms with such a horrific event, but you finding out through social media rather than through the police or from your mum? itjust changes your life, really. everything is changed. just horrible. you obviously want to hear from the police or your family to get some sort of comfort, but obviously i was in cardiff and had a facebook message. then i had to go and tell my dad with the police. it's hard. what about the issue that many of the tabloid media picked up on about the nature of cerys's death? many of them labelling it a cannibal attack, and something that
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for a long time you thought was the case, but it wasn't? no. again, we found out off social media, me and my brother having woken up a couple of mournings after and it had been a story on facebook that people were sharing —— couple of mornings after, but there is only so long you can keep things like that from somebody, because it was everywhere. that is how it is remembered...” because it was everywhere. that is how it is remembered... i think... because it was everywhere. that is how it is remembered... ithink... i was sleeping a lot of the time, in and out of sleep and different things, but i think i woke up about four o'clock, five o'clock in the morning, had gone downstairs, and my sister was staying on the city at that point, and i walked into the living room and i saw her picture and those headlines —— staying on the setee at that point. i
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couldn't. .. you cannot the setee at that point. i couldn't... you cannot describe it. imean, couldn't... you cannot describe it. i mean, just the fact of losing her ina i mean, just the fact of losing her in a horrific way anyway, but seeing those headlines about your child, i still can't comprehend it today. and it was two and a half years before you found out that wasn't what had happened to her. without a doubt, yes. at no point where we sat down asafamily yes. at no point where we sat down as a family and told about her injuries in any way. what i was told was initially it was a head injury, then they opened the inquest and i saw again on the news "sharp force the face and neck," again that is very different to a parent, to me, than a head injury, so i said why is it being reported as this, i ask the police. they said, well, yes, it
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was, but did not go into any further details at that point, so for the last two and a half years that has been over us as a family, not knowing. not knowing the circumstances. just very much in the dark about my child, her sister, about how this came about and exactly what she went through. you spoke to the police about that and they were saying they wanted to limit the information given to you, and asa limit the information given to you, and as a family you said you wanted limited information about what had happened to cerys. we did address that with the police. if you can imagine, asi that with the police. if you can imagine, as ijust said, the horrific circumstances, those headlines, very early on i was... i did put up the shutters, i didn't wa nt to did put up the shutters, i didn't want to know. but obviously as the weeks, the days, the months go on, of course i wanted to know things. and i made that very clear. yet,
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repeatedly, after that they would say, well, you didn't want to know things. i didn't feel there was any... a lack of compassion and understanding, and empathy, for our position. and for cerys, as my daughter. the police said the delay in telling you about her death was because they wanted to send an officer who knew you professionally to ease with that incredibly difficult conversation. did that help you? it wasn't an officer i knew, it wasn't. still today, given the events, why they would wait for an officer to come on officer who knew me? surely, the priority would be to tell me as soon as they could. before it was on social media, before my family and my daughter, my
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son, before they saw it, surely the priority would have been to have told me as soon as possible? i don't know. at the inquest, which you have mentioned, into the death of your daughter, the mother of matthew williams, who killed cerys, said that he needed help, he had been released from prison just a couple of weeks earlier, he had severe mental health issues, he wasn't getting support, and there was a failure within the system. is that how you see it? in regards to the mental health, it was firmly conveyed by a psychiatrist that he didn't have a diagnosis of schizophrenia. what he did have was drug induced psychosis. undoubtably he did have poor mental health as a result of his lifestyle and drug use. yes, they are adamant
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that they tried to get him support and help and the report says he wa nted and help and the report says he wanted it and didn't get that help. certainly from my point of view, he did have poor mental health, but in regard to that, his drug use, prolific offending history, he had no rehabilitation, there was no updated risk assessment before his release. and he even asked to move toa release. and he even asked to move to a different area to go and live with his dad so that he could be away from the drugs scene and start afresh, but ultimately he was placed backin afresh, but ultimately he was placed back in the area where he had lived previously. yes, the other local authority basically refused on the basis that his family could provide accurate information that there was accurate information that there was a link to that area. but they should
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have given him priority and considered him in that area, but they didn't, they sent him straight back to caerphilly. nobody was told about the risks. so is that what you wa nt to about the risks. so is that what you want to change, to come out of cerys's death, better communication between agencies to prevent another family going through what you have been going through? well, some communication! he was released, he had served his sentence, no monitoring on him. and he had told people that that was what he wanted, he was going to commit crimes, he had written letters saying so. and those had not been acted upon. shannon, your mum has mentioned your brother. just give us a sense of
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what this has done to you as a young woman, the effect it has had on you and your brother. it'sjust horrible. you are anxious and nervous. i struggled sleeping for a while, i had nightmares. it isjust horrible. every day is different, and you worry every day and think people are looking at you, and you can't get it out of your head, you are fat ever missing somebody, missing something, and i know from my brother, he has really struggled and suffered badly with depression, he has lost his hair. my brother doesn't cope very well, he doesn't talk, and we were offered counselling at the very beginning, and that was shut the, they said, just go to your gp. and my brother would just turn up at the gp and say, i need to talk to somebody. so
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ithink... it say, i need to talk to somebody. so i think... it has ruined our lives, the lack of support. that is the family of cerys yemm speaking to be a little earlier. still to come, as footballer ryan giggs divorces his wife stacey, he's told a judge he made "a special contribution" to their wealth and claims he shouldn't have to pay as much. but, when a marriage breaks down, should the financial assets be split evenly in two? and leicester may have lost to atletico madrid in their champions league clash, but they haven't given up yet. we will be getting post—match analysis from fans in leicester and those still in madrid. but first, it is 9:35am. all of the news with annita. good morning. a ruling has said that
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russian officials should have done more to prevent the siege of schooling bezel and in 200a. more than 330 people, died when security forces stormed a school where chechen separatists had taken more than the court said that police should have done more to protect people when the building was stormed. more than £2 million in compensation is to be awarded. children from ordinary working families will be central to the government's new generation of grammar schools. the education secretary, justine greening, will say today that grammar schools in england will be truly open to everyone —— notjust the privileged few and giving priority to disadvantaged children. but a new analysis from the government shows a majority of selective school places go to more affluent families. president trump has said relations with russia may be at an all—time low, after the kremlin refused to stop backing president assad of syria. speaking at a news conference in washington, mr trump said america had been right to fire missiles at a syrian airbase in response to a chemical weapons attack last week. mr trump also said he believes nato
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is "no longer obsolete", reversing a stance that had alarmed allies. the mother of a young woman who was murdered in 2014 has told this programme she felt the police dealing with the case failed to show the family compassion. 22—year—old cerys yemm was killed at a hostel in november 2014. an inquestjury ruled miss yemm was unlawfully killed. paula yemm is upset that the family only found out the true details of cerys' murder from the inquest, rather than from the police themselves. i didn't feel there was any... a lack of compassion and understanding and empathy for our position and for cerys, my daughter. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at ten. thank you, annita. lots of you getting in touch with us about the
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grammar schools story. an anonymous text says, my daughter goes to the local grammar school, i am definitely working class and a single parent. after passing the 11 plus admission, it is decided by the cou nty plus admission, it is decided by the county council criteria, local children go first. kate says, both our children attended grammar school, we are in ordinary family, not wealthy or privileged. we did over private tuition, but cut back on other spending to do so. mike says, both of our daughters attended grammar school, we are ordinary. it isa grammar school, we are ordinary. it is a matter of priorities. less mcdonald's will easily cover the cost of tuition, says mike. and louise says the grammar schools where i live have been secured by months or years of private tutoring, nothing to do with natural ability
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or background, just the ability or willingness to pay. get in touch with that or anything else on the programme. let's get all the sport now with ollie. here are the headlines. leicester city will have to overturn a 1—0 deficit in the champions league quarterfinal against atletico madrid. the spaniards were wrongly awarded a penalty which antoine griezmann scored. the second leg at the king power stadium is next night. dortmund manager says they should never have played their quarterfinal so soon after the bomb attack on the team coach, postponed by less tha n attack on the team coach, postponed by less than 24—hour is. they lost their first leg tie to monaco 3—2. on the short list is at the pfa player of the year awards. chelsea's ka nte player of the year awards. chelsea's kante is among the candidates. i will be back with a full update shortly after ten. now, when a marriage breaks down should the financial assets be split evenly in two? a multimillionaire banca has been
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told to hand over half of his fortune to his ex—wife. randy work had argued he was a "financial genius" — but the appeal court ruled his ex—wife mandy gray had made a "different" but "important" contribution to their marriage. there are concerns that if ryan giggs wins his case that it will it send a message to stay at home mums that their roles aren't as important. let's talk to amy harris, who is a family lawyer at the firm slater and gordon. the ceo of the women's resource centre, vivienne hayes. and goranka gudelj, who divorced her husband when she was a stay—at—home—mum. what exactly does "special contribution" mean? we are not entirely sure, it is a difficult concept, and very difficult concept, and very difficult for people to argue whether they should be given special treatment in a divorce settlement because they have earned a lot of money. the cases we have had show it isa money. the cases we have had show it is a difficult argument to run. it is a difficult argument to run. it is difficult for people to be successful making that argument. do many people come to you and say they wa nt to many people come to you and say they want to but that in? contribution is put into account, but needs will
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ta ke put into account, but needs will take priority over contribution, so it will only be in very exceptional cases where a special contribution will be taken into account. in your divorce settlement, you gotjust under 50%, didn't you? divorce settlement, you gotjust under50%, didn't you? but nonetheless had a huge impact on your lifestyle and how you could live? yes, it enabled my daughters and me to continue to deal with to start with with the divorce, but it didn't last long. my ex—husband paid it for only five months, and then just arbitrarily stop the payments, but at this point, i had no more money to continue to pay the lawyers, so i have fought my own case in court as an applicant in person for the last six years. so when you hear these very wealthy men, often men, it doesn't always have to be men, often wealthy men saying, i went out to work, i did the hard work, i earned the cash, it
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shouldn't go 50/50, why do you think? a homemaker's role as an unpaid role. i have worked, iwas just not paid for it. i supported my husband in all of his decisions when it came to his career. we have a disabled daughter who needs my support to this day. both of the children, we invested a lot of time, and it was ourjoint decision for me to stay at home. i never meant to stay at home, i had a career before marriage, it was never my intention to bea marriage, it was never my intention to be a stay at home mum, itjust happened once our daughter was diagnosed, we made a decision that i should put my time into her and the family. and i did so. and as a matter of fact, at least twice, my husband got promotions and was told by his bosses that the promotion was
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due to the fact that he had a solid marriage, that his mind could concentrate on the business and an work, and he didn't have to care, and he would always introduce me to his bosses, and always with pride as somebody that they appreciated, too. vyvya n , somebody that they appreciated, too. vyvyan, what sort of message does this send out to mothers? as we heard there, but i have got lots of friends who would love to go to work but we have small children, husbands work longer hours, and it is not financially viable. any marriage is based on teamwork. and the contributions made by the different parties may be different, but to undervalue unpaid work is unacceptable, and actually, within with their unpaid work contribute
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billions in their work to this day, and also to husbands. without her there at home, her husband would not have had the career that he had. and so have had the career that he had. and so it isa have had the career that he had. and so it is a team effort, and it should be recognised as such. so it is a team effort, and it should be recognised as suchm ordinary cases, not in the super—rich, is that generally recognised? i think it is, contribution is taken into account and not just financial contributions, but contribution to family welfare. the courts in the cases that we have seen recently have made it clear we shouldn't discriminate against the homemaker. their role in most cases will be equal to the role of the financial and as well. so it is difficult for the gentlemen typically to argue that they have made unacceptable attribution, and that should be taken into account, because in most cases it won't be, it will be regarded as equal to the role of the homemaker. but the super-rich might say, if your husband is worth hundreds of millions of pounds, does
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it matter if you get less than half? you are still getting an obscene amount of money that surely you can live on? i think it is the principal, because when decisions are made in courts, they can set a precedent, and if we look at it like that and women receive less because it is millions anyway, what happens to ordinary working—class families if those kind of decisions of the direction of travel, those women are going to lose out. i believe it was la st going to lose out. i believe it was last year, even two years ago, two very wealthy women managed to obtain permission to go back in time and claim the money is that their husbands had withheld information on, from the government and from them and from the courts, and that was a really good precedent. i remember in the press it was reported as women who, they have so much, and really, was 40 million not enough? on the idea was, these women
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actually went out, spent money, they are to gain this right for all the within across—the—board so that even ican go within across—the—board so that even i can go back now in time if i find that my husband had withheld information and say, you withheld information and say, you withheld information at that point. so how far should this go? if a woman has the children living with her after a divorce and has to take a low paid jobs that she could be there for picking up from school or whatever should be. should she then received more than half of the husband's inca because they are struggling and have the kids with them?|j because they are struggling and have the kids with them? i think it should be viewed upon the merits in the courts, and what impact will be on the mother and children, because we wa nt on the mother and children, because we want to see a fair deal for when
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an across—the—boa rd. we want to see a fair deal for when an across-the-board. and just to reflect, the legal position needs to ta ke reflect, the legal position needs to take priority in all cases, needs to ta ke take priority in all cases, needs to take priority in all cases, needs to take priority over contribution. if someone take priority over contribution. if someone needs take priority over contribution. if someone needs more take priority over contribution. if someone needs more than 50% for that reason that should be reflected in the financial settlement. thank you all for coming in. coming up: it was the school siege which shocked the world. more than 1000 people were taken hostage in beslan in 2004. we'll hear from a survivor who was held hostage aged eight, and whose mother was killed. now, they may have lost 1—0 to atletico madrid last night but that european adventure is far from over for leicester city, as they took over the dominant spanish club in the first leg of their quarterfinal in the champions league. they are the only side in the competition... —— they're the only remaining english side in the competition after arsenal and manchester city were both knocked out previously.
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on this programme, particularly last season as they stormed to the premier league title, we followed superfa ns sandra fixter and garyjohnson. they were both in madrid last night, and here's what they got up to. an amazing atmosphere here. everybody is having a fantastic time. well, somewhere in among all the crowd, the actual owners of leicester city have turned up to meet the fans. i just love being leicester city have turned up to meet the fans. ijust love being a leicester city supporter. we have arrived at the ground and are in need of refreshment, and i think we've come to the wrong bar... we are the only people with blue shirts on, but it was big ann's fault, led us on, but it was big ann's fault, led us astray again, and people are amazed we have gone to the way bar to get a segment. so many people here, look at older people here to see leicester in the champions
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league! wejust had a load of atletico madrid supporters come up to us, asking, photo, photo, photo! everyone is so lovely. hello! they alljust want everyone is so lovely. hello! they all just want for de everyone is so lovely. hello! they alljust want for de graafs, bits and bobs, and you don't get this in our country, i tell you exactly all just want photographeds. the matches coming up and we are absolutely buzzing. such an amazing feeling to think leicester city, are little club, is now on the main stage and everybody knows who we are. we are of the foxes, king power, we are leicester city. and i said at last year. things can't get better. but you know what, days like this, when you know what, days like this, when you are in another country, and people know your team, know your players, nor your backroom staff, it is absolutely fantastic. buzzing for begin tonight and hopefully we will see leicester city at least get something under their belt ready for
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the replay that is coming at the king power stadium in a week's time. final thoughts for today? i think it is quite exciting and, you know, i just think we need to keep pushing forward. i think we need to be proud of what we achieved the night. we had some very bad decisions go against us but you know what? we are leicester city and we have the home leg coming up next at the king power stadium, next tuesday, and we can continue to make our fairy tale. come on, you foxes! laughter let's talk to gary and sandra now — they're already back in the uk. we are having some connection problems with sandra but we have gary here. but also we've got richard austin and kieron o'gorman who are still in madrid. you all the pretty happy. i will start with richard, you're still living the dream in madrid? under the parasol there? living the dream in madrid? under the parasolthere? looking forward
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to the next leg, yes. am i right in thinking you were sitting amongst the atletico madrid fans last night? we were, yes. had the tickets for their, and it was a great atmosphere. you say it was a great atmosphere. you say it was a great atmosphere but when that penalty was awarded that should not have been a penalty, did you have to cheer with everybody else? obviously, you know, it was that decision but we took it as it was. kieron, how was the game for you? buenos dias. laughter how was the game for you? very good. can you hear me? yes, the game was amazing, fantastic atmosphere, shame about the result. did you feel that
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leicester did enough? i was looking at the statistics today and it is not unlike leicester, 60% possession for atleti co not unlike leicester, 60% possession for atletico madrid, and i know leicester like the fast break, but do you feel happy with the way the tea m do you feel happy with the way the team played ? —— do you feel happy with the way the team played? —— 68% possession.” thought it was quite an average outfit, to be honest. seville looked like a battle team. we have the result, ticket back to the king power and we will win 2—0. result, ticket back to the king power and we will win 2-0. before we speak about going back to the king power i would like to ask both of you and richard. we were speaking earlier on the olly foster about the trouble, never anything we like to talk about. but it did happen last night. did either of you witness anything, kieron? yes, unfortunately, like you see, it did occur. we were at the front line, i suppose, and thankfully managed to get away. it wasn't nice. there was a lot of innocent people hit by the police by batons, cheers being
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thrown, so, yes, it put a bit of a dampeneron the thrown, so, yes, it put a bit of a dampener on the day but thankfully it got rectified and we carried on with our lives. from what you have seen, did you feel there were a few troublemakers there? that the police overrea cted ? troublemakers there? that the police overreacted? what was your sense? unfortunately with something like football, and english football, when you go away, it takes one or perhaps two idiots to aggravate the situation, however it did get blown way out of proportion. and the police did take far. how about you, richard? did you see anything? yes, we we re richard? did you see anything? yes, we were in the square and there were a lot of people in there. i guess the way things started off, there was a smoke bomb, something to that effect, and when that happens the police started moving forward, like moving forward, and at that point we thought we should move out of here, so we on, started exiting the
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square. a lot more police were coming in about them. it did look like it was a group of leicester fa ns like it was a group of leicester fans stepping forward, confronting the police, so obviously not helping the police, so obviously not helping the situation. i want to bring in gary hooper is waiting patiently there in his leicester city top. you are back home now. your thoughts on the game? i thought it was a really great evening again for leicester city, very frustrating at times, maybe, but we have to remember we are only halfway through the fixture and it is two legs. it is only 1—0 to atletico madrid, and when we get back to our king power stadium, as i have said many times on this programme, that is a fortress, and it isa programme, that is a fortress, and it is a stadium where the whole of leicester come together and they are going to bring the fight back, you know, the leicester, to england, to try to turn it around like we did in
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the last round. it is interesting you say that about the king power stadium. i was listening to the bbc commentator yesterday, and he was saying he feels there will be more ofa saying he feels there will be more of a threat from atletico madrid at the king power. he does not think it is that fortress. what i would say to him is to come and experience one of our fixtures at the king power. everyone, 30,000 people, you know, the atmosphere around the stadium is electric. and it is notjust, you know, the fans of leicester that come together. it is this city, and some people would say it is even the world coming together, because people want leicester city, a bit like the fairy tale from last year, they want to see someone to keep progressing who is different in this competition. we heard it from the fans last night in atletico madrid, theirfans fans last night in atletico madrid, their fans saying it is so lovely to have a different team is playing up against us. you are a credit to football. and it isjust amazing to hear that about our club. well, your
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club, they managed to beat seville and turned that deficit around. what are you thinking, kieron? do you think the same can happen this time and you can actually get to a champions league semifinal? they are the dream would be what i think! —— dare to dream. i think we lined up better than atletico, and like gary said, at the king power i think we can win, with the crowd on the boys' backs, who knows what can happen? gary, one final quick question. you have been to every leicester away game in europe. how much have you spent? that's a nice question! we think we've worked it out but it is at least over a £1000. you know, some people may say that is stupid. some people may say it is a ridiculous amount to spend on
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football, but you know what. and i say this... it is never going to happen again, but it could do if we go and win the champions league. we would be here again next year! you could be in the semifinal at this rate! best of luck. all of you, thank you for speaking to us. let's get the latest weather update with carol kirkwood. good morning. if there's chilly start has made you think of holidays further afield, this is what you can expect. look at that, madrid, tenerife, 25 degrees and towards athens, 22 degrees. quite a lot of sunshine and some showers over in the east. 7—9 in the north—east again with some showers. if you are hoping to take a dip in the mediterranean in the west, the sea temperature is currently about 17, and in the east mediterranean around about 18, but by the end in the east it will be more like 26 celsius in the sea, like a bath. back on our shores today, though, and east— west
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split to start. after a nice sunny start in the east the cloud already in the west will drift over eastwards and we will see some showers, patchy rain across parts of scotla nd showers, patchy rain across parts of scotland and northern ireland, but moving south we hang onto those sunny breaks, not just moving south we hang onto those sunny breaks, notjust through this morning but in the afternoon. you will find areas of cloud then the sun, then it will cloud over again. temperatures up to 13 celsius in london, roughly where we should be at this stage of the year. but we're finding in the sunshine it claims up to about 16. northwards into northern england, through the midlands, againa northern england, through the midlands, again a fair bit of cloud around and one or two showers. eastern scotland seeing some breaks but the showers in the west will continue to drift towards the east and in northern ireland, similar story. a fair bit of cloud around, one of two brighter breaks, hanging onto some patchy rain and showers. four wales, looking to dry up and although we will hang onto a lot of cloud, some brighter spells. overnight and through the evening, two fronts coming our way. they are
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looking to bring in some rain moving southwards and ahead of them both the cloud will continue to build, the cloud will continue to build, the temperatures are very similar to the temperatures are very similar to the nightjust gone, except for in the nightjust gone, except for in the highlands where we see some clearer skies and it will feel cold. tomorrow, we start off with both fronts. for a time it will pep up producing some rain, again continuing the descent southwards. still some brightness in the far south and behind them, for scotland and northern ireland, some sunshine and northern ireland, some sunshine and also some showers. temperature... look at that! 63 fahrenheit. then moving on in the east bay and saturday as well, there will be a lot of settled weather around and we will also see some sunshine —— easter day. for easter monday as well, a lot of dry weather around but they also have some fronts coming in from the west that could well produce some rain, so all in all it is looking not like a wash—out or write off this coming
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easter weekend. and pollen allergies, we are looking at levels being moderate across most of england, wales and northern ireland, low across the far north of england and also scotland. whatever you're doing, have a easter. hello. it's thursday, it's ten o'clock, i'm chloe tilley. welcome to the programme. it was the school siege which shocked the world. more than a thousand people taken hostage in beslan in 2004 by chechen militants. hundreds died — mostly children. today the european court of human rights has found russia guilty of serious failings in how it handled the siege. one boy remembers how it started. translation: we were standing next to the school gates. i saw three people running in with machine guns. at first i thought it was a joke, then they began shooting into the air and i ran away. he was one of the lucky ones. we'll be speaking to another survivor, who was one of the hostages —
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she was eight years old at the time. her mother was killed in the siege. for more than two years, a mother thought her daughter had been cannibalised by a drug addict just out of prison. paula yemm says she was let down appallingly by the police and the authorities. he was going to commit crimes, he'd written letters saying so, and those hadn't been acted upon. there was an opportunity there, they could have contained him, they could have arrested him. you can watch that interview in full at half—past. so how did this woman lose 44 pounds without any exercise? turns out she'd had cancer — cosmopolitan magazine in the us come under fire for a tweet many found insensitive and offensive. good morning. here's annita in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today's news. thank you, chloe. good morning. the european court of human rights
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has ruled that the russian government should have done more to prevent the siege of a school in beslan in 2004. more than 330 people died when security forces stormed a school where chechen separatists had taken more than a thousand people hostage. the court in strasbourg said more should have done to prevent the hostage taking, and to prevent the large—scale loss of life that followed when the security forces moved in. the court awarded survivors and relatives of victims who'd brought the case more than £2 million in compensation. children from ordinary working families will be central to the government's new generation of grammar schools. the education secretary, justine greening, will say today that grammar schools in england will be truly open to everyone — notjust the privileged few and giving priority to disadvantaged children. but a new analysis from the government shows a majority of selective school places go to more affluent families. justine greening says they should work for all families. i think we've always recognised the debate, but we do have grammars
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in our school system already. what we're saying is we need to work out where they fit in in a 21st—century education system. we want to see them playing a stronger role, lifting standards for all children in local communities, notjust the ones who get through the school gates into a grammar. and we want a new model of grammar schools, for those new grammars that will come through in response to local community demand, where that is. prosecutors in germany say they have no evidence that the only suspect they have in custody over the bomb attack against the borussia dortmund football team bus was linked to the crime. however, they said they were seeking an arrest warrant to keep the 26—year—old iraqi national detained, over claims he may allegedly have been a member of so—called islamic state in iraq. president trump has said relations with russia may be at an all—time low, after the kremlin refused to stop backing president assad of syria. speaking at a news conference in washington, mr trump said america
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had been right to fire missiles at a syrian airbase in response to a chemical weapons attack last week. mr trump also said he believes nato is "no longer obsolete", reversing a stance that had alarmed allies. the mother of a young woman who was murdered in 2014 has told this programme she felt the police dealing with the case failed to show the family compassion. 22—year—old cerys yemm was killed at a hostel in november 2014. an inquestjury ruled miss yemm was unlawfully killed. paula yemm is upset that the family only found out the true details of cerys' murderfrom the inquest, rather than from the police themselves. i didn't feel there was any... a lack of compassion and understanding and empathy for our position and for cerys, my daughter. workers on virgin trains east coast are to stage a 48—hour strike from april 28th. it's because of a row over the role of guards and jobs.the rmt union
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said consultation over "widespread on—board changes" has been going on for more than a year, adding that the company had implemented the changes from march with no agreement with the union. a missing link in the evolution of dinosaurs has been discovered at the national history museum in london. on discovering a lost fossil, scientists realised it was from an early ‘cousin' of the dinosaur. they found that while it had a long neck and tail, it also walked on all fours more like a modern monitor lizard, or crocodile. it fills a critical gap in the fossil record and indicates that some dinosaur features evolved much earlier than previously thought. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30. in around 40 minutes, we will be talking about grammar schools. lots of e—mails and texts coming from you this morning. judith says i came
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from a working—class background and went to a grammar school because i passed the 11 plus with no extra coaching. i don't understand all the fuss that is being made. many of my friends went to the adjoining secondary modern and we all had to pay for uniforms and school trips. the only difference was the curriculum was tailored to suit our needs and abilities, but what is wrong with encouraging each and every child to do their best? surely it is better to aim high? it is perfectly possible for late developers to be switched to a more demanding curriculum with or without changing school. do keep in touch with us this morning. here's some sport now with olly foster. they did it in the last round, so leicester city will be optimistic of overturning a one goal champions league deficit again. they lost 1—0 in madrid against atletico in the first leg of their quarterfinal. it was a first half penalty that
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should never have been awarded. it was definitely a foul on antoine griezmann, but marc albrighton pointed straight away to the referee that it was outside the box. his h is protests his protests fell on deaf ears, but it was definitely outside. griezmann took the kick himself. but the tie is far from over. we know it's still going to be difficult return match. we have a very good home record at the king power. you know, our fans enjoy these champions league nights. we have to make sure that, of course, we need to be... create more chances. just stay with that match. the club are going to speak to leicestershire police and stewards who were monitoring their fans in the city centre about the clashes with spanish police. at least eight fans were arrested with some due to appear in a madrid court today, but many of the supporters felt that the police had been "heavy—handed." it was very heavy— handed from the
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police, it was an all or nothing approach, they painted everyone with the same brush to say everyone was guilty of violence, when in actual fa ct guilty of violence, when in actual fact it was only a minority in an isolated area of the square. but they chose to act upon everyone. the borussia dortmund manager thomas tuchel doesn't think that their champions league quarter—final against monaco should have been played last night, less than 24 hours after a bomb—attack on their team bus. the original tie was postponed after three bomb blasts damaged their bus and saw one of their players, marc bartra, hospitalised with a broken wrist. they wore t—shirts in his honour last night. tuchel said it was if uefa felt that it was merely a "beer can" that had been thrown at the bus, and they weren't consulted. uefa say they "never received any information which suggested that any of the teams did not want to play." the german world cup winner lothar matteus has called uefa's decision incomprehensible and irresponsible. in light of that, perhaps it's no
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surprise that monaco won 3—2 on the night — kylian mbappe scored twice and take that lead back to monaco next week. the shortlist is out for the pfa player of the year awards, one of leicester city's unsung heroes when they won the title last year is the favourite. n'golo kante has sincejoined cheslea, and he has driven their title push. also on the list is fellow blue, eden hazard, zlatan ibrahimovic, harry kane, romelu lukaku and alexis sanchez. go to the bbc sport website for the young players list and also the shortlists for the women's awards. that's all for now. i will be back with the headlines in half an hour. it was beamed across the world. shocking images of half naked children, trapped in their school. it was 13 years ago now — a hostage situation in the town of beslan, southern russia.
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chechen militants took more than 1000 people captive. they'd wired the school with bombs and mines. it was the first day of term, when children put on their best clothes and bring in flowers. three days later, after they'd been kept in the school gym without food or water, hundreds were dead, most of them children. the brutality of the attackers and the images of bloodied and traumatised children shocked the world. but so did the indiscriminate violence meted out by the russians as they stormed the school to bring the siege to an end. and now the survivors of the horror and their families want justice. they took their case to the european court of human rights which this morning ruled that there were "serious failings" in the way the russian state handled the affair. in a moment we'll talk to the lawyers who brought the case, and a woman who was an eight—year—old pupil at the school that day. but first let's remind ourselves of those terrible events of september 1st, 2004. it was the first day of term in school number one in beslan. in russia there are no classes when pupils come back from the summer, it's supposed to be a day
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of celebration and catching up with friends, but rebels stormed the school and forced more than 1100 children, parents and teachers into a small gym. they wanted russian troops to leave the nearby republic of chechnya. translation: we were standing next to the school gates. i saw three people running in with machine guns. at first i thought it was a joke, then they began shooting into the air and i ran away. this was the start of a siege that went on for 52 hours. it was cramped and swelteringly hot in the gym, with no food or drink. there were bombs taped to the wall and hanging from the ceiling. older pupils were forced to attach explosives to the basketball hoops and children were forced to stand near the windows as human shields. a few children, like this little girl, did manage to escape. but as negotiations went on, other relatives were left waiting outside, desperate for news.
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terrified every time they heard gunfire. hundreds of russian security forces surrounded the school, and on the third day they stormed the building. explosives and gunfire rang out. there was no sign of medical teams or ambulances. the attackers shot some of the children in the back as they ran for freedom, but others were carried out, weak, half naked and bleeding. some relatives fought to get through the security cordon to find out what was happening to their loved ones. 331 people died, 186 of them were children. russia was in mourning. there were days of mass funerals, but many families and victims blame authorities, partly for not doing enough to prevent the attack, but also for the botched rescue operation. it's come out that security forces fired tanks and flame—throwers at the school. only one of the attackers was found
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alive, a chechen carpenter. he is serving a life sentence. authorities were cleared of any wrongdoing. for 13 years, families and hostages have fought that decision. they could be awarded compensation, but most say it is more about establishing responsibility. well, let's cross live now to our correspondent olga ivshina, who is is moscow. what reaction are we getting from the authorities to this ruling? there is no official reaction from moscow or any authorities, and i guess it won't come from while, because they really need careful wording of their response. but this ruling is not coming as a surprise from russian officials, because the arguments put by the relatives of those who died in beslan were strong, and it was quite expected that the european court of human rights would rule in their favour. so now there are again a lot of
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questions, really serious questions, which address back to the russian government, and if they start speaking of this, start reacting, questions will start again, and i would like to say that none of the russian officials were held responsible for this tragedy, and the european court of human rights was the last hope for mothers of the victims to put this tragedy back to the light again and to try to find a nswe rs the light again and to try to find a nswers to the light again and to try to find answers to their questions. thank you, olga ivshina speaking to from moscow. joining us from st petersberg is zarina dzampaeva who was eight years old and at the school in beslan with her mother and sister when the tragedy unfolded. her mother was killed. in the studio isjessica gavron — a human rights lawyer who has supported the beslan survivors' case. and in moscow is kirill koroteev, the victims' lawyer. thank you all forjoining us.
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zarina, what is your reaction to the verdict? how are you feeling right now? iam i am concerned that i'm not sure that we are against the country at all, the whole country, we are against the fact that still guilty people are not punished, and we can't say that guilty people are punished already. so as for me, extra measures should be taken to investigate it, because still nobody is responsible for that, and this is very... it makes us feel nervous about the situation. so i think the court is quite right about russia, and it should be ruled so that
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russia would take some measures. zarina, tell us what you remember about that day. i was too young to remember something from that, but still, i remember some moments. remember something from that, but still, i remembersome moments. i remember when we were there, there was a total lack of water, so we wa nted was a total lack of water, so we wanted to drink so, so much, and i remember when somebody said to me from that, i was drinking water so much that others try to stop me, because it was unhealthy to do that, andi because it was unhealthy to do that, and i remember somebody was killed by terrorists, and that was a great... it impressed me so much, i think at the time i understood that
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iam in think at the time i understood that iamina think at the time i understood that iam ina bad think at the time i understood that i am in a bad situation. but i was too young, so maybe i didn't even understand at first that i was in that situation. i would like to bring injessica if ican. is i would like to bring injessica if i can. is it clear what the russian government new ahead of this attack? there have been claims and concerns that the warnings had been there before hand ? that the warnings had been there before hand? yes, it is clear! think unclear from the court's ruling that the russian government had a substantial amount of information in its hand prior to the attack. they knew a group of terrorists was training in a particular region, that they were targeting the day of knowledge, the first day of september, the beginning of the school year at all schools in russia, a day of celebrations with families at the school, and they knew it was an educational establishment. they knew the scale of the attack. they did not what exactly which school but
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from the area they could surmise which schools were likely to be targets. so, kirill, if the russian government was aware of this threat, why was the ending of the siege so badly handled? well, i think the court has quite rightly described what happened with the conduct of the security operation as disorder. it is impressive that for example those who were in charge of rescuing the refugees, the emergency situations ministry, they were not given the exact number of hostages by the security officers, and the victims and the public in general
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has been complaining that the exact numberof has been complaining that the exact number of hostages has never been given, that it was never given until everything was over, but it is also impressive that it has never been communicated for example within the structure of the bodies in charge of the security operations. so the court again was very critical of decision—making to use heavy r decision—making to use heavy weaponry against the school... let's talk about that. for people who are not familiar with the heavy r , not familiar with the heavy weaponry, jessica, they were using flame—throwers, tanks... it was a huge military response, knowing that the thousand people including many hundreds of children were inside that school. has it ever been made clear why those decisions were made? no, and that... we argued the
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government has never given an adequate explanation. the situation was that i think it was so chaotic that once you have the military involved there are very few constraints on the military in the legislation in russia, and theyjust went in too hard. flame—throwers for insta nce went in too hard. flame—throwers for instance are a military grade weapon for the battlefield, for demolishing military installations. they create a huge pressure wave, the crush people. it is a devastating instrument to use and is totally indiscriminate by its very nature. likewise, tanks. if you're firing on a school full of hostages, and like your report showed these were vulnerable children, over 800 children who had not had food and water for three days, they were very weak. so it was a totally disproportionate response, and i am glad to see the court has held that, andi glad to see the court has held that, and i think the applicants and victims of the beslan siege will be glad as well, because their main concern is the failure to prevent
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the attack, as you rightly pointed out, there was a lot of information about that, and the use of these disproportionate weapons that only increased the danger of the hostages, where of course the state's obligation in a situation like this is to try to take all measures possible to minimise the risk of loss of life. zarina, what impact has the siege had on beslan asa impact has the siege had on beslan as a community? can you hear me, zarina? yes. ijust wondered what impact the siege at the school had on beslan as a community. has it ever been able to recover? firstly i would like to say that there is no one family in or did not... do it has not impacted on, the terrorism act. —— no one family who has not felt the impact of the terrorist
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act. we as a community, the beslan community, we became more close to each other because there were serious problems, and that is why we became very close to each other. of course it has had a huge impact on our school. do you think this judgment will help people move on? ordo judgment will help people move on? or do they need more? to move on, you mean people who were damage there? you said every family was impacted in beslan, so having this european court of human rights ruling that the russian government made mistakes, does that help people to move on with their lives, or do they need to see the people held to account? can i firstly say something? me and my family, i can't
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talk about us. we are sure that there is no... our country is guilty, sure, because terrorism is an international problem so i think no one country is more guilty in such case, so i think it is more the responsibility of our local authority, so the government of our republic should be responsible for more than the government of russia. kirill, i want you to come in and speak a little bit about compensation. part of the ruling was over £2 million in compensation, i understand, to those families who brought the case? i have yet to have the total figure but i would say the awards, when taken by applicants, individual applicants, . .. the court
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explicitly says it has taken into account previous payments made by the russian government. but given there are over 400 applicants, the total figure is nevertheless impressive. so what isjustice for the families you represent?” impressive. so what isjustice for the families you represent? i don't think that any sum of money is able to compensate for the loss, and the court is also right in indicating the numberof court is also right in indicating the number of specific measures that need to be done by the russian authorities concerning investigation, concerning disclosure of documents, concerning also importantly public recognition of state responsibility for this. and such measures are state responsibility for this. and suci'i measures are never state responsibility for this. and
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such measures are never ever unfortunately implemented by the russian government. there is experience of dozens of cases where fresh investigations were required and never conducted. so there is a lot still to be done beyond payment of compensation. then those responsible are brought to justice, even this will be just another point on the way towards justice which also includes comprehensive assessment of the facts, and access to all relevant evidence that has been withheld from the victims since
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the very beginning of the investigation. simply, they want the truth, and no one can blame them for that. kirill, thank you for speaking the us, and also to zarina and jessica as well. still to come: grammar schools — they‘ re controversial and not eve ryo ne gets a ccess . today the education secretary hopes to change that, as she sets out plans for a new generation of these schools — but will they get full marks from you? the us version of the women's magazine cosmopolitan has caused upset on social media after it tweeted about a woman it said had lost weight without doing any exercise. the story it linked to explained that the woman had had cancer. although it went on to make clear that she had lost the weight through healthy eating, many people have criticised
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the magazine, accusing it of insensitively handling the story to get clicks online. we can speak now to nadia mendoza, a showbizz reporter at the daily star and co—founder of the self esteem team, which does talks with teenagers about body image. and in salford is lydia brain, who is a 24—year—old blogger who has cancer. thank you both for taking the time out to speed to us today. nadia, i will start speaking to you first. you are a journalist, a showbiz journalist. probably not a lot shocks you. did this tactic shock you? i would say i am not easily shocked, but on this occasion i was. i would say that there is a line that we toe and it was crossed on this occasion. they might well have said "how to get a beach body... get cancer." being slim, it is one beauty ideal we have, and if cancer becomes aspirational, where do we go from there? will hiv be trendy so you can fit into your wedding dress? it is madness, crossing the line, for me. what about you, lydia? i was really shocked and i already had
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quite a negative view about how the media portrays women, but that was quite an extreme example. you have had a difficult experience with the media. tell us your story and your experience, if you would?” media. tell us your story and your experience, if you would? i am into pole fitness and have been for a long time and i was very aware the media mightjump on this long time and i was very aware the media might jump on this with long time and i was very aware the media mightjump on this with my story, and i tried to manage that, and one tabloid newspaper found a photograph of me doing pole and i was ina photograph of me doing pole and i was in a sports bra and shorts, and they put it up without consent, and thatis they put it up without consent, and that is quite heavily regulated, so that is quite heavily regulated, so that was a bit of a shock, because i didn't really want my body or my hobbies to be used to sensationalise my story or detract from the meaning, which it did. particularly when you are fighting cancer right now? yes. i will be doing so for several years. i have cancer chronically, and that was the first
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timel chronically, and that was the first time i had been open about it and got in touch with the media, so for the first day, to be aware that that was used incorrectly, it was quite a shock. i think it is worth pointing out that this article, which was in us cosmopolitan, the article itself was very clear about what had happened to this woman, but it was that tweet and i guess that is the problem with twitter, or social media. are we daft enough to click on it? is apparently our fault? media. are we daft enough to click on it? is apparently ourfault? it is about click bait, at the end of the day. yes, and for me this tweet opens a wider debate about why we are still drawn to these shock factor stories and click bait pictures, as you say. i know from my experience as an editor, if i write at story about angelina jolie's philanthropy, it will not get any clicks, but if i write about someone from jordan sure having a shock body transformation, it could be the story of the day. what we do is educate students in schools on
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self—esteem, mental health, social media etc and cv should be responsible for what they are clicking online. each click is like a vote to the editor saying you want more of that content, so, yes, i do believe cosmopolitan us were wrong in this instance but it is about taking responsibility and we all have to take responsibility for our digital footprint. lydia, have to take responsibility for our digitalfootprint. lydia, i can see you are nodding. yes, i think we do, slightly. i am you are nodding. yes, i think we do, slightly. lam kind you are nodding. yes, i think we do, slightly. i am kind of shocked because the story is quite shocking already, that a headline about her weight loss is actually more click bait than her illness and some of the stuff she had suffered through, because i would see that as being more shocking and more click bait, ifi more shocking and more click bait, if i was an editor, so that just kind of shows some of the issues we have in society at the moment.” have in society at the moment.” have to ask you as you are here, nadia, people may well be shouting at the tv, saying if you are working
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at the tv, saying if you are working at the tv, saying if you are working at the daily star is showbiz journalist, how can you also be working with girls and self—esteem issues? your paper is full of women scantily clad and fitting the image that we are all told we should look like. how do you that? firstly with myjob at the daily star we cover a very diverse group of people, so we would cover the naturally slender, victoria's secret angels, but also all the glorious shapes and sizes on the middle, we do notjust focus on one ideal. when we go into schools, like i say, we educate people on the choices they make online. and the choices they make online. and the choices they make in terms of who they follow, for example if your instagram feed is full of fitness models, people making you depressed or worrying about your weight, we say stop following them. you are entitled to choose the wallpaper of your world. but it is easier said than done when you are a teenage
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girl. thank you both for speaking to us girl. thank you both for speaking to us today, nadia and lydia. we did ask cosmopolitan for an interview and statement but did not receive anything. still to come: "ordinary working families shouldn't have to make do when it comes to their children's education" — that's the message from the education secretary as she sets out plans for a new generation on grammar schools — it's got you talking and we'll be discussing it soon. 22—year—old cerys yemm was murdered, and her mother says the police dealing with the case failed to show the family compassion. we will hear from her and cerys's sister, shannon. first, it is 10.30 two. with the news here's annita in the bbc newsroom. thank you, chloe. the european court of human rights has ruled that the russian
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government should have done more to prevent the siege of a school in beslan in 2004. more than 330 people died when security forces stormed a school where chechen separatists had taken more than a thousand people hostage. the court in strasbourg said more should have done to prevent the hostage taking, and to prevent the large—scale loss of life that followed when the security forces moved in. the court awarded survivors and relatives of victims who'd brought the case more than £2 million in compensation. children from ordinary working families will be central to the government's new generation of grammar schools. the education secretary, justine greening, will say today that grammar schools in england will be truly open to everyone — notjust the privileged few and giving priority to disadvantaged children. but a new analysis from the government shows a majority of selective school places go to more affluent families. prosecutors in germany say they have no evidence that the only suspect they have in custody over the bomb attack against the borussia dortmund football team bus was linked to the crime. however, they said they were seeking an arrest warrant to keep the 26—year—old iraqi national detained, over claims he may
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allegedly have been a member of so—called islamic state in iraq. president trump has said relations with russia may be at an all—time low, after the kremlin refused to stop backing president assad of syria. speaking at a news conference in washington, mr trump said america had been right to fire missiles at a syrian airbase in response to a chemical weapons attack last week. mr trump also said he believes nato is "no longer obsolete", reversing a stance that had alarmed allies. workers on virgin trains east coast are to stage a 48—hour strike from april 28th. it's because of a row over the role of guards and jobs. the rmt union said consultation over "widespread on—board changes" has been going on for more than a year, adding that the company had implemented the changes from march with no agreement with the union. coastal areas in parts of new zealand's north island have been evacuated ahead of what's expected to be the most powerful storm to hit the country
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in 50 years. tropical storm cook is forecast to bring more than ten centimetres of rain and winds of up to a—hundred—miles an hour. some areas are already under a state of emergency. that's a summary of the latest news, join me for bbc newsroom live at 11 o'clock. thank you. lots of you still getting in touch with us about grammar schools. we will be having a discussion about this in ten minutes. rex says i was born to an ordinary working class family, my father was a minor, my sister passed the 11 plus and went on to have a successful career, i failed it the 11 plus and went on to have a successful career, ifailed it but passed a further exam to attend the local grammar school two years later. the make—up of the school was a cross—section of society from children of solicitors to children of factory workers and miners. i soon of factory workers and miners. i soon found out we had a lot of knowledge to catch up on in the grammar. ithink knowledge to catch up on in the grammar. i think a return of grammar schools is a great idea and not political ideology of the labour
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comprehensive system that has not been a success. carol says i don't believe in grammar schools, they separate children into those who are good enough on those why not and will feel the rest of their lives feeling that way. john went to grammar school in 1946, feeling that way. john went to grammarschool in1946, i feeling that way. john went to grammar school in 1946, i came from a working—class family, my mother was widowed and bringing up two children. i went to school with holes in my shoes. we all sat an entrance exam and had a choice of three grammar schools in the area. we got to school on merit and not on privilege. this is typical socialist propaganda that they always use. and chris said, i passed the 11 plus much to the surprise of me and my teachers. coming from a working—class poor family, a teachers. coming from a working—class poorfamily, a grammar school was the making of me. what i didn't understand then was that my good luck was paid for by the 90% of kids who didn't get selected. if you build a new grammar school, every other state secondary is reduced to a secondary modern and their
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children already feel classed as failures. keep getting in touch. let's get some sport now with olly foster. these are our headlines this morning: leicester city will have to overturn a 1—0 deficit in their champions league quarter—final against atletico madrid. the spaniards were wrongly awarded a penalty, which antoine griezman scored. the second leg at the king power is next tuesday night. the borussia dortmund manager thomas tuchel doesn't think that they have played their quarterfinal so soon after the bomb—attack on the team coach. postponed by less than 24 hours, they lost their first—leg tie to monaco 3—2. and the shortlist is out for the pfa player of the year awards. chelsea's n'golo ka nte is the clear favourite. you can see all the candidates on the bbc sport website, as well as the young player of the year and women's football awards. and the draw has been made for the first round of the world snooker championship at the crucible in sheffield, that starts on saturday.
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defending champion mark selby will face further o'brien, and five—time world champion ronnie o'sullivan has got gary wilson. that starts on saturday across the bbc. i'll be back with more sport on bbc news after 11. in november 2014, a young woman, cerys yemm, was murdered by matthew williams, a man with mental health and drug abuse issues who'd been released from prison two weeks earlier. the case hit the headlines when it was wrongly dubbed the "cannibal" killing because the owner of the hostel where it happened believed she'd seen williams eating his victim's face. whilst this later proved to be untrue, cerys' family say they were devastated to hear of the claims through social media, and waited two and a half years to discover the truth. williams died after being tasered by police, but now the inquest into cery's death has finally concluded and her family believe that if it wasn't for failings in the support and supervision he received after leaving prison, she would still be alive. earlier i spoke to cerys's mum and
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sister, who began by telling me very action when they first heard she had died. it happened in the early hours of the 6th of november. i caught up and i went to work as normal, and then they phoned through and they said, the police are in reception for you. which wasn't unusual, with myjob, i'd often meet with the police. i went through and i said to them, was it about a certain person i was working with? they said no, it's not. and at that point, ijust knew. and i don't know why, because i'd been worried about sian, she just passed her test and i was worried about her driving in the car, the nights with dark, bad weather. but ijust said it's cerys, isn't it, it's cerys? and they sort of nodded... they... they began to tell me then
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and i refused to listen. that bit then is a blur, really, from then on. it was, that was then our nightmare began. and you obviously then had to tell your family. you had to tell shannon. i wanted to tell shannon. i wanted to do it myself. i'd gone to my mother's, and only just got in there and i said, right, i need to get hold of shannon and tell her. at that point, i think shannon phoned my mum, because she'd seen things on facebook and then people were phoning her and saying, shannon, i hope this isn't true. so then i spoke to shannon and she
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said, mum, mum, is this true? shannon, you actually found out from social media? yeah, on facebook. i had people messaging me, because i'd already seen posts, obviously. then i had people messaging me by facebook message, saying, please don't tell me it's true, it's not your sister, is it? and obviously i had to drive home from cardiff, after getting a facebook message. mum was crying, couldn't tell me, couldn't speak on the phone. so i said mum, will you tell me, please. obviously there was traffic from cardiff then so i was in a bit ofa thing in the car, crying, thinking it's not true. obviously i tried to ring cerys, because i didn't know, i thought i'd contact her, but didn't get no answer. but at that time i didn't
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think that was weird, because i didn't get an answer off my brother either, so i just thought, neither of them are answering me, something ‘s happened at home. what about the issue that many of the tabloid media picked up on about the nature of cerys's death? many of them labelling it a cannibal attack, and something that for a long time you thought was the case, but it wasn't? no. again, we found out off social media, me and my brother having woken up a couple of mornings after and it had been a story on facebook that people were sharing. couple of mornings after, but there is only so long you can keep things like that from somebody, because it was everywhere. i was sleeping a lot of the time, in and out of sleep and different things, but i think i woke up about four o'clock, five o'clock in the morning, had gone downstairs, and my sister was staying on the settee at that point, and i walked into the living room and i saw her picture
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and those headlines. i couldn't. .. you can't describe it. but seeing those headlines about your child, i still can't comprehend it today. and it was two and a half years before you found out that wasn't what had happened to her. without a doubt, yes. at no point were we sat down as a family and told about her injuries in any way. what i got told was initially it was a head injury, then they opened the inquest and i saw again on the news "sharp force trauma to face and neck," again that is very different to a parent, to me, than a head injury, so i said why is it being reported as this, i ask the police. they said, well, yes, it was, but did not go into any further details at that point,
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so for the last two and a half years that has been over us as a family, not knowing. not knowing the circumstances. just very much in the dark about my child, her sister, about how this came about and exactly what she went through. we spoke to the police about that and they were saying they wanted to limit the information given to you, and as a family you said you wanted limited information about what had happened to cerys. we did address that with the police. if you can imagine, as ijust said, the horrific circumstances, those headlines, very early on i was... i did put up the shutters, i didn't want to know. but obviously as the weeks, the days, the months go on, of course i wanted to know things. and i made that very clear. at the inquest, which you have
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mentioned, into the death of your daughter, the mother of matthew williams, who killed cerys, said that he needed help, he had been released from prison just a couple of weeks earlier, he had severe mental health issues, he wasn't getting support, and there was a failure within the system. is that how you see it? he had no rehabilitation, there was no updated risk assessment before his release. and is that what you want to change, better communication between agencies to rent another family going through what you went through? he was going to commit crimes, he had written letters saying so, and those hadn't been acted upon. there was an opportunity. he had written letters in prison saying he wanted to kill when he came out, more than eight
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letters which he had written. the risk was that he was going to commit a serious offence. and ifear risk was that he was going to commit a serious offence. and i fear that eve ryo ne a serious offence. and i fear that everyone knew that, but they took the view, we can't really do anything because he is not an license, so we won't do anything, and not even share that information with anyone. and that needs to change. paula and shannon yemm speaking to us a little earlier. "ordinary working families shouldn't have to make do when it comes to their children's education." that's the message of the education secretary, justine greening, as she sets out her plans for a new generation of grammar schools. new government analysis shows a majority of selective school places go to more affluent families. but labour says the government's own research shows that grammars don't help social mobility. in the last few minutesjustine
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greening the education secretary has been speaking in south london. fairer society, a society based on merit, and that must surely start with education and our schools. making sure that our children and young people can do their very best and reach their potential, wherever they are growing up. that is the means by which we build a better country. it is how we deliver the plan for britain. in short, we are the means, our country's people, each and every one of us. some of the most vivid memories i have in my life are about opportunities. there is one of me and a red telephone box in devon. it is still there. it looks pretty normal, but it matters to me, that phone box, because it is the telephone box i rang from to get
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mya the telephone box i rang from to get my a level results, and i remember screaming with delight when i got the news i had the results are needed to go to university, and i was the first person in my family to be able to go to university. we went across the road to the pub to celebrate, and as we sat there as a family to celebrate nobody knew what this next stage in my life would be like, but we knew it was going to be important, because i knew it would open up the world to me and it would transform my chances in the future, andl transform my chances in the future, and i believe that we can build that education system here in britain, but in the end it forms around opportunity, and opportunity is about how we translate those hopes and aspirations into something real, something concrete, so for me opportunity is the most precious commodity in this world, and our strong economy is vital, because it is the opportunity engine of our country. but we know truly need to
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make it a country where everyone has an equal shot of taking advantage of those opportunities being created. this is a government that wants more opportunity for more people and more equality of opportunity, and that means unlocking our children's potential. let's discuss this with lee elliot major, ceo of the sutton trust, an education think tank, we can also speak to labour's shadow education secretary, angela rayner, who is in our salford newsroom. and in nottingham, malcolm trobe — he's the interim general secretary of the association of school and college leaders. thank you all forjoining us on this. first of all, lee, do you welcome this? i think we welcome the government looking into social mobility but we have real reservations about grammar schools as agents of social mobility. the basic problem is they are not attracting poorer children. if you
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look at the statistics, the likelihood of getting into these grammars is vanishingly small, and we know the biggest issue for social mobility in a way is for that bottom third of pupils. malcolm trobe, would you agree with that? yes, very much. we see that their evidence is increasing selection is not going to have any impact on the overall educational standards across the country. it may impact on the life chances of a small minority of youngsters who go to selective schools, but in terms of raising the overall educational standards across the country and giving us a highly skilled workforce for the future, we don't see this as a positive step. we need good schools for every single child. so you are saying they shouldn't be grammar schools at all. lee, you are saying there should be as long as poorer children are given the opportunity to access them? we arejust pragmatic. the opportunity to access them? we are just pragmatic. grammar schools are just pragmatic. grammar schools
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are here. i don't think they are going to go always a wealthy are here and let's ensure the benefit all children. i would agree with malcolm we want good schools, and indeed we want high achieving children from all backgrounds doing well in all schools. i would agree with that, but for grammars specifically i would say you have to be quite radical and lower the grades for poorer children. you have to give them private tutoring, because we know for those who get into grammar schools, and there's been a huge boom in private tutoring over the decade, and the middle classes, thinking about tutoring quite rightly, they are moving further away, and i think it is the poorer children we should concentrate on. it might pay for that? yes, it is really cost—effective, in many ways, if you get the right tutors. why don't you just say no one can privately trigger? social mobility should be about levelling up rather than dumbing down, if you like, and you have to allow parents to do the best for their children, but we need to allow those really bright talented
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children, from all backgrounds, all kinds of talents, we need to allow that, private tutoring, give them a break. angela, would you agree with that? allowed poorer children private tutoring to compete?” believe across the uk where we do not have selection that the evidence isa not have selection that the evidence is a fully comprehensive system which makes sure every child reaches their potential is the best way forward. justine greening spoke a lot about the potential, people reaching their potential, and both me and her come from a comprehensive system, and i really felt what she set about feeling really great that she was the first to go to university, but under her government she will take us backwards, and it is notjustine she will take us backwards, and it is not justine greening she will take us backwards, and it is notjustine greening that want grammar schools. it is quite clear that this is theresa may pushing this government against all the evidence suggesting this will not help social mobility and poorer kids get the best education. they are cutting the school budgets at the moment in most of our children's
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schools and it is a scandal and should not happen. the only thing i would say to that, you know, it is refreshing to have us alt. why we are all comprehensive educated. so i! it is great to have a show, and comprehensive education does produce people who go on to do things, but i think we have a pragmatic view and grammars that because they still do produce many of the people who get to the top in society, let's make sure they are accessible to all children. let me read you some of the messages coming into us. we have been getting so many throughout the morning. anita says, bring back grammar schools. the sooner, the better. it is not the case of elite being a better system, but concentrating on trades and the like. i know many a tradesperson that have done much better than an academic. also, i went to grammar school and my sons
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went to grammar school and my sons went to grammar school and my sons went to a conference of and i noticed a massive difference in the schooling. what about good boys and girls being bullied and intimidated by those children who are more streetwise? sometimes able children just leave school. another e—mail. "i went to a grammar school in the 50s. all of my family was working class. my son is a doctor. and my dad worked in the steelworks. i would call that social mobility." so this suggests it can work? but all the evidence suggests it does not work and if you look at the occupational groups and how people will work through their working lives in the future, it will not be that you have the white and blue—collar, those in manufacturing jobs, but people will work longer, perhaps of a physically demanding job in early years then move onto a differentjob. we job in early years then move onto a different job. we need job in early years then move onto a differentjob. we need to scale up the workforce and have a lifelong learning approach and a comprehensive system ensures every child does well, notjust comprehensive system ensures every child does well, not just those who are gifted and talented. every child does well in a comprehensive system and that is what we want to see. but lee says it is about aiming high, and we should not be dumbing down, aiming high. if children are
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able, give them the opportunity to excel. absolutely, and if you look at the london challenge which labour introduced, not a grammar school insight in london, every child does well. it transformed education system, working with the department for education and local government, they were able to improve the school experience for every single child in the london community and we need to throw that out. we need to look at international studies and see what works best on evidence based policy. unfortunately grammar schools help a tiny few, and they leave the rest on the scrapheap, and that is not a good way of making sure every child reaches their full potential. does eve ryo ne reaches their full potential. does everyone feel they are on the scrapheap? i did not feel that at the secondary modern. malcolm trobe, how do you think you make grammar is accessible? the reality is they year. the government is pushing forward with this. do you agree with the idea of private tuition paid for by the state to give people a level playing field? we know this is a
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highly complex issue and the selection process is used at the moment to enable people to come into grammar schools, let's be fair, those people working in grammar schools at the moment do a good job for the children they have in front of them, however you can't develop chuter proof tests and any parent desperate to get their youngster into a selective school will do their utmost to make sure they are getting some form of tutoring —— you can't develop tutor— proof getting some form of tutoring —— you can't develop tutor—proof tests. what we need to do is get the government away from thinking about this as the big change. at the moment young people's life chances are being significantly affected, as angela said earlier, by the fact we are seeing significant cuts in education budgets. it is around about £1.2 billion in the current year and will be £3 billion by the time we are at the end of this parliament. we have a crisis in
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terms of teacher supply. these are the real issues we need the government to be focusing on now, in order to ensure we are given the best possible life chances for the youngsters currently in the system. i would just add to that, malcolm. i think the state sector as a whole needs to up its game on those highest academic achievers. if you look at the system as a whole the children from poorer backgrounds are about on average three years behind their more privileged counterparts at age 15 is, so i absolutely agree with angela that we need a school system that nurtures different talents, absolutely right. we want a strong apprenticeship system. we need that as well, but i do think we need that as well, but i do think we need to work really hard so that the most academically able children in the state sector are competing with their more privileged counterparts. you are right there, lee. we have to do our best for every single child, but one of the key things is having
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them all in institutions that are able to move them on. we know from experience that youngsters to develop at different rates. and actually 11 is not a good age at which to make a number of decisions for young people, so, which to make a number of decisions foryoung people, so, yes, we which to make a number of decisions for young people, so, yes, we all need to up ourgame. for young people, so, yes, we all need to up our game. when we look at the workforce we are going to need going forward, it is not the workforce we needed in the 505 and 605. it is a highly technical literate workforce with technological and computing 5kill5, and we have to work so all young5ter5 have and we have to work so all youngsters have access and we have to work so all young5ter5 have access to that.” think you are all agreed on that. thank you all forjoining us today. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. we have had so many messages coming and i'm sorry i cannot read them. one woman said she wishes both of her children had gone to a comprehensive, an interesting message. keep them coming in. hashtag victoria. this easter weekend is not looking
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too bad weather wise. we have seen some sunshine to start off today. you can see plenty of sunshine in eastern areas. the satellite picture shows cloud increasing from the west. cloud in northern ireland and scotla nd west. cloud in northern ireland and scotland fit enough to produce patchy light rain and drizzle for coast and hills particularly. brightness and sunshine in eastern and southern areas, lifting temperatures to 15 degrees. we will see clouds thickening towards the west with outbreaks of rain splashing in across central parts of the country. northern scotland cold enough for a touch of frost. under the cloud it will be mild. some
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outbreaks of rain in the midlands, north and wales at times. call across northern scotland with sunshine and showers. easter weekend, it's days rather call. a little rain at times. —— it stays rather coyle. this is bbc news. these are the top stories developing at 11am: the education secretary says she will create a new wave of grammar schools in england which are open to ordinary working families. and not the privileged few. it's really important that we reflect how grammars need to be successful in today's education system. not a debate that simply pretends we are back in the 1950s or 60s. the european court of human rights
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rules that russia should have done more to prevent the siege of a school in beslan in 2004. the families of two more babies who died under the care of the shrewsbury and telford hospital trust are calling for their deaths to be included in a government investigation. president trump says us relations with russia may be at an all—time low, as moscow vetoes the latest resolution on syria at the un security council.
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