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this is bbc news. the headlines at 8.00pm: a warning from north korea — all—out war and a pre—emptive nuclear strike if they are attacked, a senior official says. translation: if the us is reckless enough to use military means it would mean, from that very day, an all—out nuclear war. would mean, from that very day, an all—out nuclear war. prince harry reveals he has had counselling to help him come to terms with the death of his mother. turkey's president, recep tayyip erdogan, rejects criticism by international election monitors of the referendum campaign. easyjet apologises to a couple who were ordered off an overbooked flight and were not offered compensation. also this hour: brighton & hove is promoted to the premier league after winning against wigan athletic and huddersfield drew against derby the end of an era — chelsea captainjohn terry is to leave the club at the close of the season after 22 years as a blue. in 30 minutes, join us for weather
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world at belfast international airport. we will be going behind the scenes airport. we will be going behind the scenes to see what it takes to keep these planes flying, whatever the weather. good evening and welcome to bbc news. north korea has stepped up its war of words with the united states, warning there will be "all—out war" if the us uses military force against it and that it would be willing to use a pre—emptive nuclear strike. the comments to the bbc by the north korean vice—foreign minister came as the us vice—president, mike pence, who is visiting south korea, warned the north not to test president trump's resolve. john sudworth reports now from pyongyang in north korea, where his movements are being monitored and tightly controlled. north korea is all
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about shows of strength. the first today came in this tae kwon do demonstration. the next, in kim il—sung square, close to the centre of power, by way of a rare interview. translation: if the us is reckless enough to use military means, it would mean, from that very day, an all—out war. 0ur nuclear weapons protect us from that threat. we will be conducting more missile threats on a weekly, monthly and yearly basis. today, the us vice president, mike pence, was in south korea, visiting the demilitarised zone that separates the two halves of this divided peninsula. he, too, was talking tough. it was a period of strategic patience but the era of strategic patience is over.
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president trump has made it clear that the patience of the united states and our allies in this region has run out. but, despite the posturing on both sides, the risks are limited. for the us and its allies, war would be far too costly. and north korea's threats, although deeply alarming, are always conditional. if you could send one message to donald trump today, what would it be? translation: i would tell him that if the us encroaches on our sovereignty, then it will provoke an immediate counter reaction. if the us is planning a military attack against us, we will react with a nuclear pre—emptive strike by our own style and methods. tonight, although all options apparently remain on the table, the us appears to be signalling that diplomacy and toughened sanctions are now the most likely way forward.
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it's yet unclear how, having failed before, they will persuade this most totalitarian of states to disarm. there is strong evidence that beyond the gloom of this city lie vast political prisons, gulags in which all dissent, however mild, is crushed. although, in his interview, the vice minister called that accusation a lie. militarised, isolated and repressive, north korea has the right to follow its own path and, he insisted, no—one will be able to stop it. john sudworth, bbc news, pyongyang. let's speak to doctor john nilsson—wright, senior fellow of the asia programme at the foreign affairs think tank chatham house.
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hejoins me from out studios in paris. welcome to the programme and thanks but being with us. rhetoric and reality are often not closely related in north korea, nonetheless do you think we are in a more dangerous point than beware perhaps before kimjong dangerous point than beware perhaps before kim jong soon dangerous point than beware perhaps before kimjong soon became dangerous point than beware perhaps before kim jong soon became leader and before president trump became president. there is a greater sense of unpredictability because we have two lea d e rs of unpredictability because we have two leaders who, in a sense, have shown no willingness to compromise, and while it is understandable that the americans will have used this show of force, sending in the stri keforce show of force, sending in the strikeforce to the region, as a way of trying to discourage north korea from trying to provoke, all the evidence so far suggest that the corinthians —— the north koreans will continue to do that. i think
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another nuclear test is on the cards. the fact that the americans are signalling that diplomacy is the best way forward, it is an indication of the limits that americans have faced in dealing with north korea. the key in all of this will be trying to find opportunities to bring together a wider international community and tried to bring china to bring more pressure on the north koreans. this question of the role of china, china has long been regarded as the one voice that north korea has to listen to, but why should china be any more willing now to apply pressure to north korea than it was under kim jong un's father or grandfather? it is partly a function
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of the unpredictability of president trump. the chinese have looked at the situation and thought if conflict is really on the cards we need to be seen to be doing something more decisive. at the same time, ithink something more decisive. at the same time, i think it is a build—up of irritation, a sense that kim jong un has continued to act with resolute independence and they worry about where this will go. we have already seen the deployment of missile batteries to south korea. that undermines china's: security. at what point do china think they have more to gain? will it make a difference, however? looking at the history of north korea, this is a country that prides itself on its independence and its single—minded pursuit of its own interests. and the country that seems that maybe
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its people are starting to ask questions, and the regime doesn't have the answers. they have been saying that you are better off here and the outside world is a nasty place, but even north korea can keep the outside world i'd forever. is that true, or is it a regime that is able to preserve its isolation?m is porous, things get through. from the testimony of north korean defectors, evidence that for the privileged elite in john, defectors, evidence that for the privileged elite injohn, they have greater access to information in the outside world, whether it be news or popular entertainment, and dvds from south korea that gave them a sense of what life is life —— what life is like in south korea. the key consideration is the president's consideration is the president's consideration of giving economic
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prosperity to his people and to do that he needs to open up the country a little bit. that could be the glimmer of light. in south korea, there is a potential presidential candidate who is on track i think to win the election, he is talking about much more engagement. the americans will have to contemplate some part of that as part of a broader package of dialogue and discussion. fascinating stuff. thanks for being with us in paris tonight. a short while ago, sean spicer said that china was the best place to put pressure on north korea. for us to telegraph what we are going to do or we are going to ask other people to do would not be smart to lead out in public. 0n the economic side of things, china is the number one
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importer of north korean call. to see them curtail some of that has a real economic impact on the region. there is a lot of economic and political pressure points that china can utilise and we have been very encouraged in the direction they are going. we have a lot of tools left in conversations ongoing, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. we have had a productive direction that we have seen china moved in and there is an agreement by everyone so far that i nuclear capable north korea is not an anybody‘s best interests. live now to washington and our correspondent gary 0'donoghue. we have had all the rhetoric. successive american presidents have seen successive american presidents have seen it is a slow process to get change in north korea. the youth think that mike pence is saying
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anything different, or is this rhetoric to match the extraordinary rhetoric to match the extraordinary rhetoric coming out of the? there is bellicosity going into directions here. it is notjust one standing on the border eyeballing north korean guards, or the aircraft carrier and that destroyers, or at the twitter feed of donald trump. all of these things are part of an temp two persuade the world, persuade north korea and to persuade china that this regime will put up with this kind of endless round of the bit more sanctions, a bit more outrage weld the north continues to develop a nuclear weapon. that is the plan, if you like. the underlying strategy is that they are putting an awful lot of hope on china, on a change relationship with china, after that
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meeting in florida between the president of america and china, the fa ct president of america and china, the fact that donald trump has styled backers his anti—china rhetoric on currency manipulation and so on. he cancelled the tra nspacific partnership, don't forget. that really annoyed the chinese. he wants to talk to them about a new trade relationship. at the same time, he wa nts to relationship. at the same time, he wants to combine that with getting them to do some real political and economic pressure on north korea. that is why you keep hearing the white house talk about these two coal shipments that were turned back from the north koreans to china as a positive sign. china exports oil to north korea as a doesn't have any of its own. if you have the military the size of north korea you need a lot of gasoline to run those tanks and armoured vehicles. certainly for
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the parade on saturday, if nothing else. nixon went to china, maybe donald trump will go tojohn. we'll find out how this story and many others are covered in tomorrow's front pages at 10.45pm this evening in the papers. 0ur guestsjoining me tonight are kate devlin, political correspondent at the scottish newspaper the herald, and the broadcaster david davies. prince harry has revealed that he has had counselling to help him come to terms with the death of his mother, princess diana. the prince, who was 12 when she died in a car crash, told the daily telegraph that he spent 20 years not thinking about her death and eventually got help after two years of what he called "chaos". mental health charities have welcomed the prince's decision to speak so candidly. 0ur royal correspondent peter hunt has the story. prince harry, who's embraced his mother's humanitarian causes like landmines, is behaving in a way that is rare for royals. his most high—profile person yet
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to talk about the mental anguish he's suffered. in 1997, as the world quite literally watched, the child prince walked behind the coffin of diana, princess of wales, who was killed in a car crash in paris. harry is only now talking publicly about the devastating impact of his mother's death. i can safely say that losing my mum at the age of 12, and therefore shutting down all of my emotions for the last 20 years, has had a quite serious effect on not only my personal life, but also my work as well. my way of dealing with it was refusing to ever think about my mum, because why would that help? it's only going to make you sad, it's not going to bring her back. harry's failure to confront the loss of his fun—loving mum has meant he suffered from anxiety and came close to a breakdown.
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it was his brother, prince william, who encouraged him to see a counsellor. all of a sudden, all of this grief i'd never processed came to the forefront. i was, like, there's actually a lot of stuff here i need to deal with. it was 20 years of not thinking about it and then two years of total chaos. as i'm sure you know, some of the easiest people to speak to is a shrink, or whoever... the americans call it a shrink, someone you've never met before. you sit down on the sofa and say, listen, i don't actually need your advice, can you just listen? and you just let it all rip. and you've done that, have you? i've done that a couple of times. i'm not surprised. more than a couple of times. it's great. for somebody in the public eye like prince harry, who has such a big reach, to do that and feel comfortable doing that, this is a significant step forward in terms of tackling the stigma around mental health. it was something his mother tried when she spoke about self harming and her eating disorder. a generation on, the stiff upper lip is once again being abandoned. harry is a privileged prince who lives here, at kensington palace.
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his position didn't protect him from ill—health. he now wants to use his status to encourage others suffering in silence to follow his example and seek help. it's a campaign championed by kate, william and harry. called heads together, it's being supported by the london marathon. the racing royals with influence hope it'll be a mental health marathon. peter hunt, bbc news, kensington palace. we can speak now to princess diana's former therapist, dr susie 0rbach. thank you very much for being with us thank you very much for being with us this evening. 20 years seems a very long time. you would remember the criticism back at the time when she did her bbc interview about the things that you talked about, the isolation and fear thatjihad, there was a sense that this is stuck talk about in public. 20 years on behalf
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of sun grown up as a man saying very openly that his life has gone through chaos because of the loss of his mum at such a young age. do you think we have moved on and yet in terms of attitude to talking about these things? it is interesting. i think there are pockets in which we have moved on. whenever there is a crisis, train crash something ghastly, you hear that considers on the scene, so in some sense there is an acknowledgement that what happens, traumas, they need to be addressed in the present, but i still think there is a lot of discomfort between people about being able to address grief or sorrow or sadness or confusions and we are still not very good at helping children deal with divorce or boolean or at the loss of a pa rent
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or boolean or at the loss of a parent or questions of integration or questions of feeling vulnerable. i don't think we educate our kids in emotional literacy is so they know what they are feeling and they can say what they are feeling. the thing about speech is whenever you it, it transforms itself and you are no longer stuck in that position. what harry was saying, which i thought was so impressive in the interview, because he couldn't allow himself to feel sad, he felt something else, which was tension, anger and panic. about how to handle our them. what else struck me about listening to that clip was the point about talking to a stranger, that there are some things that are easier to say to somebody who has no kind of emotional relationship with you than it is to the people who love you the
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most. of course, counsellor does develop an emotional attachment, so you may start off by being quite outside event, being able to have a fresh on them, and they can feel unburdened by that, but the important thing about counselling and therapy is that you are listening to yourself as you are talking to this person, who doesn't yet know you, and the capacity to speak them can allow you to talk about what you need to talk about with the people who are very close to you. doctor susie 0rbach, thank you very much for talking to us. easyjet has apologised to a couple who were ordered off an overbooked flight. the pair, who were due to fly from luton to italy, were not offered compensation or told that they were entitled to an alternative flight with another airline.
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international election monitors have strongly criticised turkey's referendum, which gave the country's president sweeping new powers. they have condemned last—minute changes to the way the vote was counted and said there was state interference and media bias against the ‘no' campaign. but president erdogan said his ‘yes' campaign had triumphed despite the influence of what he called western crusaders . our world affairs editor, john simpson, has just sent this report. mr erdogan was out in the streets in istanbul this morning, accepting the congratulations of some of his more fervent supporters. he only won yesterday's referendum by a whisker, after staging the most expensive electoral campaign in turkish history. in ankara, the capital, leaders of the 0sce, the international monitoring team who had observed the election, gave theirsumming up.
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it was unquestionably damning about the way the no campaign had been treated. the campaign rhetoric was tarnished by some senior officials equating no supporters with terrorist sympathisers. in numerous cases, no sympathisers faced police intervention and violent scuffles at their events. what effect is the referendum result going to have on turkey? we went to the magnificent grand bazaar in istanbul, dating back to the 15th century. let me sell you something that you don't need. but, jokes aside, there is one important thing missing here — western tourists. wandering round, i couldn't spot a single one. the reason there are no western tourists, says this businessman from the bazaar, is the terrorist attacks during the last one and a half
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years, and after that the crisis between turkey and europe over the referendum campaign. and, given that tourism makes up i2% of turkey's economy, that's serious. but these are worries for the future. for now, huge crowds greeted mr erdogan as he headed back to his capital, ankara. then, at the presidential palace, with his wife beside him, he didn't trouble to be diplomatic when he spoke to the crowd about the 0sce's criticisms of the referendum. we won't accept their report, he says, we won't hear it, you can't convince us. he goes on, the eu are threatening us with a freeze on negotiations. it's not important to us, let them do it. the crowd adored his defiance.
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but defiance alone doesn't make for a strong economy. john simpson, bbc news, istanbul. let's discuss this further with emre temel from the bbc‘s turkish service. thank you for being with us. an extraordinary day since we saw the news emerging last night of the win for the president, but a narrow win. this conflict between the international election monitors, who have no power but are there to give their considered view, and the president at a time when we know that nearly half of the country did not support him. these are dramatic changes. what kind of political moment is turkey in? it is difficult. the ultimate aim for the turkish president, recep tayyip erdogan, was to turn turkey into a presidential republic and he has succeeded in that as it stands today, but it seems the country is
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more divided than ever. president erdogan won the election to become president five years ago by getting 5296 president five years ago by getting 52% of the votes, but last night it was only si.4% and for the first time in its history the ruling party did not win in any of the big three cities in turkey. this is striking. i remember being out in turkey when then prime minister recep tayyip erdogan was up his first election, what striking then, was the ache party was trying to convince a lot of people, particularly people in the big cities, those who looked a bit more towards europe in their outlook, was that it was a party and recep tayyip erdogan was a man who could embrace european values and the islamic tradition of the old 0ttoman the islamic tradition of the old ottoman empire, that he could fuse the more historic past with the more
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modern version. it now seems that he doesn't feel the need to do that. yes, and turkey seems to be distancing itself further away from europe. turkey began official negotiations with the eu when recep tayyip erdogan was prime minister. more than a decade ago. yes. in 2005. but it stopped. that is going nowhere. recep tayyip erdogan raised theissue nowhere. recep tayyip erdogan raised the issue of two more referendums, but the introduction of the death penalty, which is a red line for the european union, and he announced earlier today that he could call another referendum for the suspension of the negotiations with the eu, which seems a dramatic move. by the eu, which seems a dramatic move. by the way, if the turkish parliament approves the reintroduction of the death penalty,
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he previously said that he would sign the bill are majorly. it could bea sign the bill are majorly. it could be a country changing very fast. thank you so much for being with us. sport now and a full round—up from the bbc sport centre. brighton and hove albion have been promoted to the premier league. it's 3a years since they've been in the top flight of english football. the championship leaders beat wigan 2—i. they had to wait until huddersfield played derby before they knew they'd gone up. a win for huddersfield would have kept brighton waiting for promotion. david wagner's side took an early lead through collin quaner. but two minutes from time, the ball broke to jacob butterfield, and his long—range effort drew derby level and put brighton up. huddersfield are down to fourth. second—place newcastle lost 3—1 to ipswich. there's a match of significance in terms of the race for both premier league survival and a place in the champions league. middlesbrough are six points from safety, while arsenal are ten points away from the top four.
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they kicked off at the riverside at 8 o'clock. it remains goalless. chelsea captainjohn terry has announced he's to leave the club at the end of the season. terry has been at stamford bridge for 22 years and, in that time, has made the ‘third highest‘ number of appearances for the club. he's won 14 major honours, including four premier league titles, five fa cups and one champions league. in a statement, he said he'll decide on his future ‘in due course', but he‘s ‘committed to helping the team achieve success this season‘. it is the end of an era. he has served his club and england so well, hands football in general. i think he would go abroad rather than play in the premier league and play against chelsea. i would think he is going to china and another big payday for him. it is the end of an era andi
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payday for him. it is the end of an era and i am pleased forjohn terry have the career he has had a chelsea. manchester city women are still on course for a domestic treble after reaching the final of the women‘s fa cup. they beat liverpool ladies 1—0 in their semi—final this afternoon. melissa lawley with the goal. while ellen white scored the winning penalty, as birmingham made it through to the final at the expense of last year‘s runners—up, chelsea. to today‘s action, then, on this, the third day of the championship. former champions shaun murphy and stuart bingham have already booked their places in the second round. hoping tojoin them is marco fu. the world number eight, fu, faces a big challenge to come, back from 8—5 down against luca brecel. in super league, leaders castleford tigers suffered just their second defeat of the season as they were beaten 26—22 at st helens.
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elsewhere, wigan warriors made it ‘two from two‘ over the easter weekend, with victory at wakefield. ben croucher watched the action. there were wins for leeds, hull and a third straight win for warrington. that‘s all the sport for now. i‘ll have more in the next hour. let‘s get more now on the news that you just heard in our sports bulletin, that the chelsea captain, john terry, has not been offered a new contract by the club and is set to leave at the end of the season. let‘s discuss terry‘s 22—year association with chelsea with the former blues winger and football broadcaster pat nevin. hejoins us on webcam from his home in the scottish borders. it is quite incredible but chelsea.
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petr cech has left, didier drogba, frank lampard and the final member of that incredible group that brought the most incredible times for chelsea and it was the best period in chelsea‘s history. it is the end of an era and it is bigger than even john terry the end of an era and it is bigger than evenjohn terry although he in many ways was the embodiment of everything that was good about chelsea as a winning force! he is very keen to stress he wants to carry on being part of the club‘s success for the future and he is not walking away because he thinks it is falling apart, and it is inevitable he is getting to the age where he would have to think seriously about his longer term future. do you have a sense of whether future might be? it is difficult to tell, he will have many options. many people like terry butcher i just have many options. many people like terry butcher ijust heard, he was
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