yes. if you are just politics. yes. if you are just joining us, there are two slightly different projections we have at the moment. one from the interior ministry which puts marine le pen in front of emmanuel macron after 20 million votes have been counted. marine le pen on 24% and macron on 22. looking at the projections, they haveit 22. looking at the projections, they have it the other way around. they have it the other way around. they have emmanuel macron in front and marine le pen behind withjean—luc melenchon and francois fillon on 19%. there you go. they are the pollsters that have been helping us through this evening. en marche is making the point they have not counted the votes from the cities. —— jean—luc melenchon. here's hoping he is in with a shout. you have been very generous to

francois fillon tonight. i spoke to the former europe minister from your party the other night and he was similarly charitable to francois fillon, there must be a lot of soul—searching deep down in your party because this was there for the taking? yes, but the point is, if we begin to quarrel too much, i think we will lose also the third round. ifi we will lose also the third round. if i have a piece of advice to give to pierre who is a friend of mine, i would say keep cool because we need absolutely to unite and to really run for the third round in the best position. it doesn't mean that of course pierre asks fillon to resign. who will lead the party into these elections? i think there will be a kind of team because fillon i think is no more in a position to lead the party as such. but there are many

others who tried to act let's say, if each region, to force the victory in the third round. 50 if each region, to force the victory in the third round. sol if each region, to force the victory in the third round. 50 i think we may have in the coming days, a kind of counting situation, which will mean to win the third round which will force us to have a united front towards the macron candidates. where are you going to be over the next two weeks? campaigning against marine le pen or abstaining?” two weeks? campaigning against marine le pen or abstaining? i tell you frankly, i think both candidates in my opinion are not accepted for france because i have a lot of difference with macron in terms of europe, because you know he is dreaming ofa europe, because you know he is dreaming of a federal europe which has been rejected by the french. and i think it is a big mistake. secondly for le pen, everyone knows what she wants and this is not also

accepted what she wants and this is not also a cce pted by what she wants and this is not also accepted by many french voters. so would my view, i will be in my constituency going and shaking hands and saying, you have a good mp, keep it. we had pollsters with us earlier who said this election very much was about europe. you raised your eyebrows when we said the idea of a federal europe was finished. do people in france still harbour ambitions of a federal france?|j ambitions of a federal france?” think it is very important for the selection, europe, but ratherthan talking about a federal europe, it shows a resistance to frexit. it comes from learning the lessons of what has happened before. it may not bea what has happened before. it may not be a federal europe but talking to oui’ be a federal europe but talking to our european partners, to change europe and to prepare for frexit as well. indulge me, and say you get enough mps in the national assembly

to pull mr macron over to your side, what sort of relationship will you have with britain and what can we expect from the brexit negotiations? i belong to the community which has talked about brexit. we need to keep britain in europe, geographically so, because we britain in europe, geographically so, because we are partners britain in europe, geographically so, because we are partners in defence, in many fields and we have the best relationship with britain so we are the best relationship with britain so we are not going to shoot a gun in ourface. there is a need to keep good relations with britain. if i come back... would it be a softer... a macron presidency and the republic... i don't think we will have a hard brexit with britain because we know britain is a major partner in terms of europe imbalance because we have been battling through two world balls and we're not going to start a third one in

the opposite camp. the question is not frexit or brexit. for us, it is to reform europe and the question is... the point is i'm not sure macron has understood. we need an integrity commanding to everyone. i think there is a need to rebuild europe. it doesn't need to throw europe. it doesn't need to throw europe away. we need european corporation, we don't need europe interior is. we spoke to this person a little earlier and she is warming up a little earlier and she is warming up the macron crowd although i am not sure she needs much —— they need much warming up! emmanuel macron is in the building and i think we are about to see him any second now. just while we wait for emmanuel macron, some of the things you have been hearing about them pulling

macron over to their side,...” think the idea that macron will bring a soft brexit, i don't think it depends on macron but on the strategy of the 27 and also on the position of the uk and what the two sides are prepared to negotiate together without actually throwing threats at each other. so working together will actually be what is important. of course, all 27 countries are sad to see the uk go. but it's about negotiation divorce and then negotiating the relationship after the divorce. it can be many different things. you are both overindulged me, let's move back to france, i shouldn't really turnit back to france, i shouldn't really turn it to brexit when it is about the french election tonight! i am interested , the french election tonight! i am

interested, when we talk about emmanuel macron and how he will change the country, summary was very senior in your party once said to me that the president has to work very quickly within 100 days if he that the president has to work very quickly within100 days if he is to change france because the mood shifts after the presidential election. macron will have to get his act together quite quickly? yes andi his act together quite quickly? yes and i am not so sure he is going to do it. his programme is step—by—step and in fact, do it. his programme is step—by—step and infact, we do it. his programme is step—by—step and in fact, we don't know much of his programme, especially how he is going to finance things. i think he might start with glee. this is why i question his ways. i even believe that in fact he will be stuck very rapidly by turmoil in the streets because for instance if you take melenchon who has been

combating and if macron goes to quickly into this way, there will be trouble on the streets. far less turmoil than fillon would have had if he had won. the first thing they must focus on is the second round. let's not forget there is a second round and he has to win people from the left and the right. before we start making plans... let's explore that. we are talking about him because we are just expecting him. let's explore hypothetically marine let's explore hypothetically marine le pen as president. we have trouble in the street straightaway. rejecting the euro... the question is not the euro as such because the question of the euro is not whether we wa nt question of the euro is not whether we want to leave europe, it is the way the euro is going to leave us.

europe prices are ahead of us. this is something very important. the rate on the very high interest rate on the very high french debt? it is owned by the french debt? it is owned by the french themselves. don't forget that. this is not the same case as argentina. it will be that we transform if there is any but leave that because i think this is not something that any french government will solve by a political decision. i think the situation on this question of eurozone will come later on because of the international markets themselves. let's talk about marine le pen‘s programme because some people might not be familiar with it. she won the central bank to print more money to reduce the cost of the debt, she wants more welfare and she will borrow more. she would have a referendum on the european union. we talked about macron's potential difficulty in having

parliament supporting him, she will have the same problem because she needs to win a number of constituencies. she is probably very unlikely to win enough constituencies. i can't imagine it. where are the similarities between the french and american system? donald trump has said, you've got to back me because the country voted for me. he says it is my programme they want, with the national assembly have to follow? whoever it is? they will both do the same, they will both claim we need presidential majority behind us. there is a degree of polarisation. there are people who are already elected who will fight for their seat. it is not a done deal, not to switch from one party to the other. it will be difficult. i agree because i think we will not have a huge majority for macron orfour le pen

we will not have a huge majority for macron or four le pen which we will not have a huge majority for macron orfour le pen which is not considerable tonight. i think we may have national front because i'm sure they will gain some in the south. you will have socialist left and you will also have the republican mps. that will be rather difficult. will also have the republican mps. that will be rather difficultm will be on a policy by policy issue? it can be ace shifting majority on eachissue it can be ace shifting majority on each issue and sometimes also a blockade. i do believe we might have a difficult situation in the coming year. it's been good to have your company this evening, thank you both very much. it's been a pleasure. good to see you. quite a setting we have here with the arc de triomphe lit up behind us and plenty of people incidentally, we talk about the resilience of the french, there are thousands of people on the champs—elysees and they have come out to vote in big numbers. the

turnout pretty much as it was in 2012 so they won't be defeated by the terrorism which is perhaps the bright spot of the evening. this is oui’ bright spot of the evening. this is our special results programme and we have got a long way to go still in account but we think we have a pattern of where this first round is going. emmanuel macron and marine le pen out in front. let's get a round—up of the night from caroline hawley. at the headquarters of emmanuel macron, the cheers said it all. he has made it through to the second round of the most closely fought election in recent history. macron is only 39 and has never stood for election before. the former investment banker resigned as economy minister last year to fight for the presidency as head of the new party en marche, on the move. he certainly is. he will stand in two weeks' time

against marine le pen of the far right, the woman who would be president and she has vowed to suspend all illegal immigration and give jobs, welfare and suspend all illegal immigration and givejobs, welfare and housing suspend all illegal immigration and give jobs, welfare and housing two french nationals before foreigners. translation: time has come to get rid of all the arrogant people who wa nt to rid of all the arrogant people who want to dictate to the population what they should do. i am a candidate for the people. it's an appeal to all the sincere patriot, whether they —— wherever they come from, their origin or whatever they voted for in the first round, i invite them all tojoin voted for in the first round, i invite them all to join us and to abandon old—fashioned invite them all to join us and to abandon old —fashioned quarrels invite them all to join us and to abandon old—fashioned quarrels and to concentrate on what is the superior interest of our country. that was really essential. votes are still being counted but the political establishment in france has been roundly beaten. the man once tipped for france's top job, the conservative francois fillon has conceded defeat. his vote will go in

the next round to emmanuel macron. translation: extremism, do trust me, can only produce and fortune... misfortune and division for france, so misfortune and division for france, so there is no other choice but to fight and vote against the extreme right and therefore, i will vote for emmanuel macron. and i feel that it's my duty to tell you that very honestly and it's for your conscience now, to think about what is the best for your country but also for your children. on a seventh, the people of france will turn out to vote again. the choice they make will shape notjust a country but it is continent. let's cross straight to the headquarters of en marche, the party of emmanuel macron, just coming out into the crowd. their areas, taking

the congratulations of his supporters. they have waited patiently for him and baby never a couple of hours and they are in full mood. the tricolore being waved among the crowds and we are waiting to hear what sort of form he will be campaigning on. our guests have talked about the vague promises he has made and some of the policy is not very clearly defined. it's quite obvious that many of the candidates who have already conceded thinking principally of benoit hamon and francois fillon, they have thrown their weight behind emmanuel macron so their weight behind emmanuel macron so he can probably count on the support of a large proportion of their voters. according to the polls, that will probably see him home a week on sunday. but a lot of campaigning between now and then and marine le pen equally confident. she casting it as a battle between her ideals against immigration,

globalisation. obviously eurosceptic. against the establishment which emmanuel macron represents. more of the same, she says angie tries to paint him as the continuity candidate, more francois hollande. he was his economy minister until he resigned and started this en marche movement last april. some people very much see him as part of the establishment, the socialist party. you wonder whether the support of francois hollande, the support of francois hollande, the president of the key ministers, whether that will do him any good over the next two weeks but i suppose better to have their support than not. he is being miked up and ready to speak to the crowd. we will listen in. we will just talk a little

we willjust talk a little bit over the top of him while he get up as the top of him while he get up as the adoration of the crowd. that lady to the left is his wife. she was formerly his teacher and when he was formerly his teacher and when he was 17 years old, i read today, he said, i'm going to marry you and she was already married with children andindeed was already married with children and indeed he did marry her and then he went on to work for rothschilds bank and he made quite a penny for a period of time before hejoined francois hollande as an adviser. he was quite a brilliant student, came through the system, everyone who comes across and says he has a very sharp mind. he was scrawled at the —— he was scrawled at where most of the politicians in france have come from. looks like he's about to

speak. cheering chanting cheering translation:, here we are. my fellow citizens, today, sunday, 23rd of april, the people of france expressed their views. this country

is living through a very unexpected pa rt is living through a very unexpected part of its history, characterised by terrorism, social difficulties, ecological problems, they gave the most beautiful answer by voting on a massive scale. the french people decided to put me ahead in the first round of votes. chanting i'm aware of the honour and responsibility that rests on my shoulders and i would like to pay homage to the various candidates

that took part in that first round. natalie arturo, francois fillon, benoit hamon, jean la salle, and others. thank you for applauding all of them, it is very much your image, oui’ them, it is very much your image, our image. i know how those who supported them may be disappointed. i thank benoit hamon and francois fillon for asking that they vote on my candidacy in the second round. to all of those that have supported

me since april, 2016, by creating en marche and making it something alive, i would like to tell them this, in the space of a year, we have changed the face of political life in france. the deep feeling, the organic feeling that is always carried along by people, the commitment to one's homeland, energy for common interest beyond vision, that's what won the party tonight. i will never forget the determined will, the energy that thousands of you deployed. in over a year,

everywhere in france, you have played your role in the national destiny and you were able to show that hope in our country was not a dream, wasn't a bubble, but was a determined will and a beneficial, a positive will. you gave your days, you gave your nights, when it wasn't enough. and tonight, tonight, my friends, it is something i owe you and i'm perfectly aware of it. it's for you to carry on with that vibrant commitment, until the end and even beyond, you must never give up, you must never forget. never

beyond, you must never give up, you must neverforget. neverforget those moments during which you changed the fate of our country and you have to remain courageous, demanding, as you are, and it's for you to follow that road. from this very evening, ifeel you to follow that road. from this very evening, i feel it's my duty to go beyond and to gather together eve ryo ne go beyond and to gather together everyone in france. i'll always be close to you and i'll always needs you. to the millions of french men and women who trusted me by voting for me, i have to say thank you. chanting i have to assert that i'm aware of

the way it will present and it is a serious joy but a lucid joy that inhabits me and on your behalf and in your name, for the second round of the selection, i will express optimism and the voice of hope that we wa nt optimism and the voice of hope that we want our country for europe. to my teens, i want to say thank you, and to those who are here and who are no longer there because there is nothing you can do that is going to forget who you are and where you come from. to thank you to all of my family. chanting she is always present and without

her, i wouldn't be myself. from now on, my friends, it is for us to gather a wider base and we have to reconcile france so that in a fortnight, we are able to win and tomorrow we will be able to preside our country. crowd chant "no" crowd chant "n0" chanting i had her doubts about fear and rage from the people of france,

that strong desire to change things and that's what led france to move away from responsibility, the two big parties that have been governing france over the last 30 years. so tonight, i want to talk to all the citizens in france, but also, the france overseas. i know your expectations and i wish that in a fortnight, i will become your president. i want to become the president. i want to become the president of the whole people of france, the president of the patriots in the face of the threat represented by nationalists. a

president able to protect, to transform, and to build up, a president who is able to allow those willing to create innovative, start, work, to do it faster, more easily. i want to be a president who is going to support and help the more fragile among us, those who have been upset by life, and do that through help, school, work, solidarity. i heard your inspiration towards a real vitality and your ecological and economic expectations. we want to build a possible future that will make france stronger in europe and that

will be able to protect us and for that, i will need a vote and your trust. my my dear fellow citizens, in a fortnight, i will work hard so that together, we can gather as large as possible around my candidacy. the strength of that gathering together will be essential to be able to preside and govern. from tonight, the challenge is not just to go and vote against flu or whoever, no, the challenge is to decide and reject totally a system that was enabled to answer and face

the problems that exist in our countries that have been in place for more than 30 years. the challenge is to open a new page in our life and act so that everyone, with justice and efficiency, our life and act so that everyone, withjustice and efficiency, is our life and act so that everyone, with justice and efficiency, is able to find justice in france and in europe. this is what our challenges. that's the reason why, my dear fellow citizens, from now on, i want to build up a majority for governing and a transformation, something new which will be made up of new people, new talent and everyone can find its place in that new structure. i'm not going to ask, from people who are

joining me, where they come from, but merely whether they agree for a renewal of our political life. to guarantee the security of french people, for freeing work, guarantee the security of french people, forfreeing work, for reorganising schools and making it possible for all of us to progress in society, whatever the origins and to relaunch the building of a strong europe. macron, president! from tonight, you have to assume a certain risk and you mustjoin me, me and the parliamentary majority i will build from tomorrow