welcome to 100 days+. the us watched russian hackers interfere with the french election and warrant rand's security services. the head of the agency says he also now have they cannot stay ahead of the cyber attacks. two days of testimony in a string of warnings from us intelligence agencies on russia's intentions to undermine democratic elections. the us is considering sending 3000 more troops to afghanistan to fight the taliban. nato is asking the uk to up its commitment as well. the winner of south korea's presidential election says he wants better relations with the north. will that make it harder or easier to resolve this crisis? and with over four weeks to go until the general election here in the uk, prime minister theresa may and her husband, philip, sit down for their first ever broadcast interview putting their partnership in the

spotlight. and this is a rare old talent, isn't it? our colleague steve rosenberg not only knows all the winners at the eurovision song contest, he can play them as well. i'm katty kay in washington, christian fraser is in london. the us national security agency was watching in real time last week as the russians hacked into the servers of the french president—elect emmanuel macron. they've also determined that the russian president vladimir putin ‘personally‘ directed the attack last year on the us election. today in front of the senate armed services committee the director of the nsa, admiral mike rogers, was questioned by senators and this was how he described his agencies warnings to french officials. he had become aware of russian activity, we had talked to french cou nterpa rts activity, we had talked to french counterparts prior to the public announcements of the events that we re announcements of the events that

were attributed last weekend, the russians were seeing them, penetrating some of your infrastructure. what can we do to try to assist? we were doing some other things with german counterparts. with but his counterparts, they have an upcoming election. admiral rogers is concerned cyberattacks are moving from the obtaining data — to manipulating it. but how else did the russians exert their influence over the us election and this administration? that is an open question. earlier today, the former us secretary of state condoleezza rice was speaking on us television and gave her own take, on russia's involvement in the us election. iam i am appalled by what the russians did, and the arts to find a way ultimately to punish it. vladimir putin is getting tremendous satisfaction from watching us tear apartare an satisfaction from watching us tear apart are an system. he has an eye foran apart are an system. he has an eye for an eye kind of person. we questioned specifically, hillary

clinton specifically questioned the legitimacy of his election in 2012. he is going to show us that he can question and probed about the legitimacy of our elections. matthew rojansky is with the woodrow wilson center. he has just returned from moscow and joins us now. let's start with mike rogers, saying that they were watching in real—time, as russian hackers interfered in the french elections, and they warned the french. the fact that they want the french, is that key, and is itan that they want the french, is that key, and is it an indication that western intelligence agencies are coming together to try to combat the russian threat? it is, and it should be. ithink it is, and it should be. i think if there was ever a time that the west was complacent, sleepy, maybe even indifferent about the question of conflict in the cyber domain or in the information domain, there is some information that in the 2000 the russians approached washington and said let's do a treaty on this, cyber treaty, and washington said, we don't really need that, our tools

are better than yours, we're not afraid of you. we have learned the lesson from that. we playing close attention. this is the blowback from putin. every time he tweaks a western country, he drives the circling of the wagons, and cooperation, among his adverse is, and he is having to deal with that now between france and the united states. let me pick up on what kondo lisa ray said. there was some speculation after the french election here in washington that all this had shown that putin's meddling in elections was backfiring against him because marine le pen did not. is that too simplistic? i think it probably is. part of what putin is looking to do broadly is settle in russian domestic politics. there is also a russian election in early 2018, it is not grisly free and fair, you can have called it a

coronation. a panic about russia and the west, retaliation against russia, this feeds putin's narrative that russia is under assault, and so you, the russian people, you need me the strong leader to protect you. admiral roger said america is not fast enough to deal with the cyber attacks. that is something i want to put to matthew, i was in paris over the weekend with a deputy from the national assembly, alongside a cyber expert for an interview, and the cyber expert said to him, you don't understand how serious this isn't how far it goes. the deputy tried to say that he did, but it was clear to be that he didn't. this is the problem for a lot of western governments, this is high—tech stuff. these politicians don't properly understand. that's right, on the one hand i think that the french response in terms of, very 11th hour, banning

news reporting about any of the content news reporting about any of the co nte nt of news reporting about any of the content of these alleged leaked e—mails, probably had more blowback thanit e—mails, probably had more blowback than it did benefit. there were a lot of people on twitter, french and otherwise, complaining about how anti—democratic this was. fundamentally, there is nothing new. this argument was made in 19116, the way that you contain a defeat, you define problems and you find solutions to those problems. you convince people that your solutions work better than the other guys. that's the biggest problem western democratic institutions have, we talk a big game but we are not sorting out problems. and coming back to that point that president putin is revelling in this, there were strings of russian code in there. the audacity is all to see. to the extent that what putin is trying to do is drive a domestic

story, something about how the west responds, the fact that the west is incompetent and in chaos, that it is aggressive but at the end of the day it is going to fail, today is victory day, when the russians celebrate their victory over nazi germany, there is a continuity to the story. today's west is noted print —— no different to those other western invaders. all those who tried to invade and defeat russia, and ultimately we defeated them. this is the narrative he wants to ta ke this is the narrative he wants to take into early 2018. thank you very much, good to be with us thank you very much, good to be with us again. let's turn to afghanistan. britain has been asked by nato to send 500 more troops to afghanistan. there's been another surge in the fighting between the taliban and the afghan security forces. we should get more clarity tomorrow on what nato is planning when the secretary—general, jens stoltenberg, meets with theresa may in downing street. yes there are similar reports here in washington today that senior military advisers to president trump are proposing sending an extra 3,000 american combat troops.

the us defence secretary is in europe and was today reaffirming the administration's support for nato. we now confront concerns from the east and threats from the south, and we're going to have to stand visible but also indivisible as we deal with these issues. i am on my way to lithuania, where i will observe the nato troops together under the german framework mission there. we make very clear that these problems we have between us and russia will be solved by diplomats and no other way. when you listen to donald trump, he sounds as conflicted as his predecessors. the question he has to a nswer predecessors. the question he has to answer is how long can they go in afghanistan, 16 years now, by most measures the country is in a

stalemate. yes, it is getting that worse but not to the extent that you see the taliban winning all the afg ha n see the taliban winning all the afghan government —— or the afghan government clearly failing. questions here today about what point does the start looking like an occupation rather than a war, 16 yea rs occupation rather than a war, 16 years as occupation rather than a war, 16 yea rs as a occupation rather than a war, 16 years as a long time, a lot of money and a lot of american troops. what can these 3000 troops realistically do? president 0bama in 2000 and 9 cents and extra 30,000 troops, and the country is not much more stable today, there has been researchers the taliban and islamic state moving into the country since then. 3000 troops, is that really going to make an awful lot of difference in terms of the long—term stability of the country? it is not just country? it is notjust the taliban, it is islamic state as well. another country high on president trump's agenda is north korea. and he may not be too happy to learn the new president of south korea is moonjae—in who won 41 percent of the vote. mr moon's parents fled the north during the korean war. according to his autobiography, his father worked at a prisoner—of—war camp,

while his mother sold eggs in the port city of busan. in the campaign mr moon promised to improve relations with north korea. he has also questioned the deployment of thaad — a us missile defence system which the us military installed in his country — and with some haste — before the election was held. so, will mr moon adopt a less confrontational approach to north korea and will that be a problem for mr trump? our correspondent steve evans reports from seoul. moonjae—in congratulated moon jae—in congratulated on moonjae—in congratulated on his way to victory tonight. the man taking south korea to the left, and perhaps closer to north korea, he wants to talk to pyongyang. voters have backed him by a big margin. they went to the polls in large numbers, and turnout of around 80%. the issues, the economy of course. young people worry about jobs. issues, the economy of course. young people worry aboutjobs. and whether to co nfro nt

people worry aboutjobs. and whether to confront or talk to north korea. asa to confront or talk to north korea. as a person who is going to the military in a few years, i don't wa nt to military in a few years, i don't want to live in a country where it is at risk of breaking out in war, army actually having to go into the war with north korea. i'm not much different from most people, national security is the main point of concern. when the leading presidential candidate of the country is saying he wants to resume talks with north korea, that isa resume talks with north korea, that is a concern to a lot of us. all the indications are that turnout is very high in this election. people have been galvanised by politics with the sacking of the previous president. and the issues are so big. this is not a country which is fed up with democracy. mr moon does not like the american anti—missile system. just installed and south korea. he favours increased cooperation with pyongyang. so, we'll left of centre

moonjae—in get on with president trump? a new softer approach in seoul may not please washington. for more on the larger implications of this election we are joined now by balbina hwang who formerly served in the us state department and is now at georgetown university. thanks very much for coming back to the programme. what do you think about the question that stephen evans has raised? is this a problem for donald trump in his efforts to resolve the crisis in north korea? yes. moonjae—in resolve the crisis in north korea? yes. moon jae—in is resolve the crisis in north korea? yes. moonjae—in is a progressive and the ideological air of the previous president. and indeed, moon jae—in personally wants to carry on the legacy, which was to deepen ties with north korea. mr moon said that south korea should

learn to say no to america. quite a combative stance from south korea. yes, it is, and what is interesting is that for the last six months or so, when president park was under the impeachment process, moonjae—in toned down much of his rhetoric. clearly to try to garner wider public support. but in the last month, since president trump's rhetoric has been very harsh against north korea, moon jae—in north korea, moonjae—in has now been able to go back to his progressive roots and do it more openly in public. we have spoken a lot about nationalism and populism, and it looks like we have that in mr moon in south korea. what happens when two nationalist populist, moon jae—in and donald trump, have to go up jae—in and donald trump, have to go up against each other? i don't think moonjae—in is a populist, and despite his win in the election, the majority of south

koreans do not support him. this was not a sign of populist, assertive populism. he did well with young people. yes, but that is an indication that younger people are satisfied with the status quo. it is not quite populism. they want deep—seated reform. a lot of people in the states will say, we have tried the softer approach before, it went on for ten years until 2008, and didn't work? that's exactly right. many south koreans also feel that way. but the past five years, with a much stronger stance, that also did not seem to work. most koreans, the north korean issue is not the single most important issue for south koreans. they really are stuck with the same kind of issues that we saw sweeping through france, great britain, even the united states. jobs in the future, much better

economy, and they won't the elites and political system not to be corrupt. what does this mean for thaad, which has just become fully operational in south korea? interestingly, moonjae—in south korea? interestingly, moon jae—in had started his campaign by saying he would be more moderate in his approach. but some of the mixed signals the trump administration have sent is giving him an unison, and that may lead to trouble —— ammunition. such an interesting question, we are seeing patterns around the world. thank you for coming in to join us. donald trump campaigned on the promise of getting america out of foreign conflicts — he's clearly finding that's easier said than done. we have already discussed tonight those reports of more us troops to fight in afghanistan. so, is it possible in today's world for a us president to pull back from global leadership? with me is one man who has seen plenty of presidents come and go. in fact many years ago he was the speechwriter forjimmy carter. he also wrote a book on the consequences of invading iraq, and this summerjames fallows

of the renowned us magazine the atlantic will move here, to london, to open theirfirst europe bureau. james, hello, welcome to the programme. glad to be here. here is a president who is america first, at once the hand is dealt, you have to go with it. it is much easier to make a campaign speech, saying out of nafta, nato, other entanglements, but the world is the world. thinking americans, however much a segment that is of the larger population, recognise that in terms of strategy, economy, education, the united states' fate is connected to the world. they have got a foot on either side of the atlantic. but there are some tumultuous things happening, is it because of brexit on the rise of

populism in europe and the west that you have come customer? we have always had a combination of the american idea, and very serious international coverage. it has become more obvious, even than before, what is happening now in europe, in the uk, incontinent or europe, in the uk, incontinent or europe, economic lee, politically, it matters to the entire world. we're here to expand the coverage for traditional us audience, and try to add to the mix following what the bbc has done for decades of trying to have a particular accent on explaining world affairs. up explaining world affairs. up after the atlantic and the bbc, you are such approach! we have spoken many times, i did not know you were a pilot until i read about your tour of the united states, you piloted a small plane. you went to small towns, one of the things we

saw in the us elections, in the french election, to a lesser extent during the brexit debate, was the split between urban centres and rural areas. was there a common thread in what people said to you during those smaller towns that made you perhaps see? there may be a difference between the us situation and continental europe and the uk, where the narrative is the same of this divide between the bigger urban centres, new york, london, dc, and the hinterland of those countries. at that prevailing narrative misses a lot of what's happening in the interior of america where you see the middle part of the country, a kind of renaissance. while it is true that new york and los angeles have their own special things, there is more of a middle of the country revival in the us than may be

possible for reasons of scale, but pa rt possible for reasons of scale, but part of what i want to look into in the time ahead as the situation as to what is happening on that front. ido to what is happening on that front. i do going to be looking at the new divide between left and right, between globalist and nationalist? the brexit election, the recent french returns, and trump last year, here's brett difference has enormous consequence. the us has turned away from globalism, the brexit result, and we see with the french result in particular people beginning to reconsider what it means to take these drastic steps. i hope, james, you're going to be a friend of the programme and talk to us some more. i have topped often with katty kay in dc so i will see you again. some of the other stories. police in germany have arrested a second soldier suspected of planning a right—wing extremist

attack on a senior public figure. it is thought the plot was to kill someone linked to chancellor merkel‘s refugee policy and frame the incident on muslim asylum seekers. aid agencies say that up to 250 people are believed to have drowned after two boats sank in the mediterranean in recent days. earlier this week the italian coastguard said about 6000 migrants had been rescued in the space of two days. the number of people leaving libya for europe is up nearly 50% this year compared with the opening months of 2016. and today russia has been celebrating victory day, a major holiday in which the country celebrates the soviet union's victory over nazism during world war two. a grand military parade on moscow's red square takes place every year. vladmir putin gave a speech on the 72nd anniversary and assured his people that they would never be defeated in battle. mr putin said there had never been, nor ever would be, a power that could conquer their nation. well, as that celebration

was underway, russia's neighbour is preparing for a party. ukraine is hosting the annual eurovision song contest, which has really become a mix of pop and politics. this year ukraine has banned the russian entry from entering the country — julia samoylova has been told she cannot attend because she performed in crimea in 2015. the russians knew that when they nominated her to be the entry, that ukraine would not allow them into the country, so there was cynicism on moscow's part. i like a different anniversary. 0ur correspondent steve rosenberg is kiev, and while he's also reporting, he has taken a break to play the piano. for an hour, he took requests —

offering to play all the winners from eurovision contests from its entire 62—year history. have a listen. the reason would like 0nly teardrops. let's have a go. that was 2013 in denmark. betty says, puppet 0n betty says, puppet on a string please. that was back in 1967, 50 yea rs please. that was back in 1967, 50 years ago. we've got requests for fairy tale. let's see. that's. ..

someone else says she has just finished exams and is listening to this, it is a great way to de—stress. i am glad. this, it is a great way to de—stress. iam glad. here's this, it is a great way to de—stress. i am glad. here's an entry from azerbaijan. i hope you have enjoyed this little fun wok down memory lane. if you're interested in the eurovision song contest, watch the first semifinal which takes place tonight. you can watch it on bbc four in the uk. but from me from kiev, a very good night to you. ifi if i was him, i would give up the

dayjob. have if i was him, i would give up the day job. have you if i was him, i would give up the dayjob. have you ever seen his interview with mikhail gorbachev? they are sitting around a table, and they are talking in russian, because steve talks reasonably good russian. and suddenly the conversation breaks into an old folk song in russian, and steve gets out from the table, goes over to the piano and starts playing it. and gorbachevjoins in! standing there with his arm on the piano, and they start singing together. if you have not seen it, go and look on the bbc website because it is there somewhere. do you think i could try that with donald trump and you could try it with trees are made? —— theresa may. iam tone with trees are made? —— theresa may. i am tone deaf, though, so you really do not want to be singing anywhere near this programme unless you want to totally kill the ratings! i love that, though, i tuned in last year and they get com pletely tuned in last year and they get completely addicted to it. thousands of people watching that facebook. rather him than me, is all i can

say. how does he know all of that stuff? isn't he busy? he will have to learn a new song again in the next few weeks. and put it to memory. i will have to pull your way from the eurovision song contest, just before we go, us officials are saying they do not expect the election and south korea to make a big difference in relations, but they think it could introduce a little bit of volatility. coming to us out of the white house from south korea. that's back on south korea. you're watching 100 days+ from bbc news. still to come for viewers on the bbc news channel and bbc world news — we will look at the sally yates testimony before congress and examine exactly who knew what information about russian connections to members of the trump administration. and the british prime minister sits down for an interview alongside her husband. what kind of political currency can be gained by campaigning with your spouse? that's still to come on 100 days+, from bbc news. the weather is looking really good

tomorrow, lots of sunshine on the way. the thickened stub unploughed is now in the process of shrinking. more of us tomorrow will have the clear blue skies. very few of us will be stuck underneath the grey skies. with the clearing skies this evening, also comes a very chilly night. here is the forecast over the next few hours. hardly a cloud in the sky, the far north of scotland, some spots of rain. these are city temperatures, right in the middle of town, outside of town and rural areas, it could only be to degrees above freezing. we start on a beautiful sunny note, right across the country, again in the north we will have thicker cloud and maybe some spots of rain for 0rkney, for

example. from the lowland southwards it is stunning in the afternoon. temperatures here in the mid—to high teens, there might be fair weather cloud, but that is pretty much it. beautiful weather across wales, the south west, right across the channel coastline, crystal clear skies and temperatures in london getting up into the high teens. the winds will be very light as well, the sudden strong. there is a potential of burning in the strong sunshine of course. be careful. 0n burning in the strong sunshine of course. be careful. on thursday the weather starts to change, low— pressure weather starts to change, low—pressure swinging in from the south, that means increasing amounts of cloud. these showers which are drifting in from the south, but with that comes quite my ds. humidity, and temperatures may get up to around 19—20. further north, more sunshine on the way. quite a mixed bag on friday across the uk. there could be some thunderstorms and

downpours. very hit and miss, across southern, central and northern areas as well. quite muggy across central parts. temperatures moving closer to 20 degrees. the weekend is pretty mixed, fairly breezy, relatively warm, at further showers are on the way with a bit of sunshine from time to time as well. welcome back to one hundred days plus, i'm katty kay in washington — christian fraser is in london. our top story. america's national security agency warned france that it was being hacked before the election. and theresa may's husband makes an appearance in the election campaign — philip is the man described as the prime minister's rock. i never heard her say she wanted to be prime minister until she was quite established in the shadow cabinet. donald trump's former national security advisor michael flynn

was vulnerable to russian blackmail — that stunning assertion came yesterday from the former acting attorney general sally yates. she told congress she warned the white house they had a problem in general flynn. with each new revelation there is a little more intrigue, more detail and great many more questions about why mr trump hired flynn in the first place, and why, after he was warned about him, he didn't fire him earlier. we were not the only ones that knew all this. that the russians also knew about what general flynn had done and the russians also knew that general flynn had misled the vice president and others because in the media accounts it was clear from the vice president and others they were repeating what general flynn had told them and this was a problem because not only did we believe that the russians knew this but they likely had proof of this information. and that created a

compromise situation where the national security adviser essentially could be blackmailed by the russians. and it has also emerged that when 0bama was in office he warned against hiring general flynn. that advice was ignored. just days after donald trump had been elected michael flynn was named as national security adviser. 0n the 18th november, just days after trump had been elected, michael flynn was named as the national security adviser. 0n the 29th december, gen flynn phoned the russian ambassador sergey kislyak. that same day president 0bama was announcing new sanctions on russia. and for the next month, trump's press secretary and his vice president were insisting that sanctions had not been discussed during that call. but the acting attorney general, sally yates, told the hearing yesterday she had warned white house counsel on 26th january about her concerns that general flynn had misled vice president pence. on 9th february the washington post broke the story that flynn and kislyak had discussed sanctions. four days later — and maybe only

because the washington post had published its investigation — general flynn resigned as the national security adviser. that was 18 days after white house councel don mcgahn had first been told. jon sobel is here. your chairman of the board of a major company, you find out your ceo has made a personal mistake even though he had warnings about the person he was appointing. would he not be fired? that ceo would be in a lot of trouble and there would questions about their judgment. if they trouble and there would questions about theirjudgment. if they reach the conclusion that they could just ride it out. that is why the story has not gone away because of our questions. what happened in that 18 day period. the way that sean spicer is trying to handle the briefing, which is still going onjust now is trying to handle the briefing, which is still going on just now at the white house, is to say we had to

verify the facts and clear the paperwork and then do due diligence and by that time 18 days have elapsed. that is one scenario. the other is that as you hinted at, perhaps donald trump made the calculation that we could ride this out, he wanted to remain loyal to mike flynn and still seems to want to remain loyal to him. and therefore the best way to do that is just see if it all goes away quietly. the decisive change was that it was suddenly in the public domain and the 11th commandment of politics had been infringed, thou shalt not get called. it raises questions about the management capacity of this white house, that such a serious personal decision was made and we should remind viewers that

the national security adviser sits just yards from the present, he sees him the whole time and has access to the top secrets in the us. and yet there have been warnings about that individual, specific warnings. and prior, just after the election i had sat ina prior, just after the election i had sat in a room with people saying he cannot appoint flynn. everyone who knew the national security apparatus, who had been part of the past administration and also people from the outside said no, not national security adviser. donald trump was determined that this person who had been with him, who lent credibility during the campaign when no one else would, would be rewarded. the other point about the national security adviser is it is not like the appointment of a secretary of state for defence secretary which must be approved by the senate, it is the personal gift of the president, there's no congressional process for his approval. we are discussing how the president emerges from this but what about the republican senators and congressmen because just to look at sean spicer here, he is trying to say sally yates was a strong clinton

supporter so trying to diminish her role. and then the republicans yesterday seemingly more concerned that sally yates had not approved the travel ban or the leaking of information. they did not seem concerned that the nsa was compromised. well it was funny, listening to the whole hearing as i did, it was like they were two different agendas, two different investigations going on. for the democrats the investigation into mike flynn, what he knew, was compromised and if, from the republicans on the enquiry, how was he unmasks, who did it, where did the leaks he unmasks, who did it, where did the lea ks come he unmasks, who did it, where did the leaks come from. so you have a very different, polarised political agenda that took place at the enquiry. just to add one thing which ifind enquiry. just to add one thing which i find fascinating, maybe enquiry. just to add one thing which ifind fascinating, maybe it enquiry. just to add one thing which i find fascinating, maybe it is nothing but in this first 100 days we've had donald trump seven times per day in front of the cameras during the summer that, signing this document, meeting that particular

group, and in the last couple of days we have not seen him. we're told is because it is preparing for his trip in the next week to the middle east and to the middle east and europe. but it seems strange. just saying! with the election campaign in the uk hotting up, and you'd expect the uk prime minister theresa may to be doing the rounds of media interviews. she is certainly doing plenty of travelling. but a short while ago, she gave an interview — to the bbc — unlike any other she's done in her 20 years as a politician. it was the first time that theresa may — regarded as a very private person — agreed to be interviewed alongside her husband, philip may. the couple spoke to the bbc‘s one show. politicians have a major responsibility spin doctors brought into the mix, have you ever been in a situation where you have given

into spin doctors? the way i approach politics is to me i am going out asking people to vote for me, to put their trust in me so i think is important that i'm open with them and tell it as is. when i'm addressing them. but we've had an experience of fake news. way back when i was being selected for a seat. 0ne newspaper reported that i would have troubled to be selected to fight a seat as a conservative because of my new baby. we did not have a baby. and we did not think any more of it until the afternoon my mother—in—law telephone. any more of it until the afternoon my mother-in-law telephone. she thought there was something we had not told her. so she was disappointed. let's go back to the beginning and you spoke about your mother—in—law, you were the daughter ofa mother—in—law, you were the daughter of a vicar, a very solid upbringing. was there any chance that he would have rebelled —— that you would have

rebelled at all, or the values that we re rebelled at all, or the values that were instilled then are they the values that you've taken forward with you? i think they are. there we re with you? i think they are. there were several things, with you? i think they are. there were severalthings, being with you? i think they are. there were several things, being brought up were several things, being brought up in were several things, being brought upina were several things, being brought up in a big rich, you get to meet a whole range of different people from all types of backgrounds. 0ne whole range of different people from all types of backgrounds. one of the things my father taught me is that you should take people as you find them and not have any preconceptions about people. and treat everyone equally. that was an important lesson i had. but life in the vicarage of course is different. you get so many people coming in to see you. and your father was a shoe salesman? yes, he worked for the footwear company for the whole of his career, as people did in those days. joint in the late 1940s and carried on until retirement. joining us from new york is theresa may's biographer — rosa prince. you have written a book about the

prime minister, you've seen the background perhaps more than anyone else. how important has still been in her life? he is hugely important to have. it is interesting because he is important both politically and personally. theresa may was an only child, brought up in the vicarage as she said. but her parents died when she said. but her parents died when she was very young, just 23 and not long married to fellow. so she really has had a family of two because as you know as well the couples do not have children. so just the two of them for all those yea rs just the two of them for all those years and they really sustain each other. on a personal level he's very supportive, he is always there, they are supportive, he is always there, they a re close supportive, he is always there, they are close couple. but he takes an interest in politics and is one of her closest advisers on politics as well. from everything to policy to her strategy, what should she call

the election for example, he is therefore have so by far and away therefore have so by far and away the most important person in her life. perhaps even more than most spouses. a bit of a cliche but he is her rock. during the interview on the one show philip inadvertently perhaps revealed that theresa may has been thinking of becoming prime minister for the past seven years when she was in the shadow cabinet, she first thought about it come he said. not the story that we heard up until now. it is not what she says but actually when i was doing the biography i found, she's been saying she wants to be prime minister from she wants to be prime minister from she was a little girl. from before she was a little girl. from before she was a little girl. from before she was an mp is used is said to people university, one of her cousin said he heard her, tape recording of her saying that when she was a teenager. so i think he's been a bit disingenuous just teenager. so i think he's been a bit disingenuousjust to let teenager. so i think he's been a bit disingenuous just to let slip that it has only been seven years. i

think she has always wanted to be prime minister and perhaps she has learnt as she got older to be more settled spec about it. —— circumspect. i think she is harboured ambitions for a very long time and! harboured ambitions for a very long time and i think he is pleased that he has been able to help her along the way. thank you very much for being with us. ijust wonder how much this helps if you are electioneering, having your partner alongside you. do you get a boost from that? it is such an interesting question, the role of the political spouse. here in the us there are questions about whether melania trump is engaged enough, she does not live in the white house, should she be more of a conventionalfirst lady. i do not know if it is the difference between the fact that she isa difference between the fact that she is a wife and philip as a husband, but he seems to have managed so far to keep pretty much below the radar

or maybe it is just that we do not expect as much in the uk from our prime minister's spouses as the americans do from the person living in the white house. perhaps that is the role, we do not tend to have a first lady. but there is a lot of interest in brigitte macron. that is in france of course. thank you very much for watching. goodbye. hello. this is bbc news. the headlines. the conservatives are promising a cap on energy tariffs if they win the election, claiming 17 million households will save money. jeremy corbyn launches labour's election campaign, but refuses to confirm he'd take the uk out of the european union. an 11 yearold girldies after falling from a ride into water during a school trip to drayton manor theme

park in staffordshire. an update on the market numbers for you — here's how london and frankfurt ended the day. and in the united states this is how the dow and the nasdaq are getting on. let's get more on the general election. the victoria derbyshire programme was in cornwall today speaking to voters there. we are in camborne, a small town to talk about the issues that matter to people ahead of this election. low wages, seasonaljobs, people ahead of this election. low wages, seasonal jobs, affordable housing. and brexit has not come up that much. even though most people in cornwall voted to leave the eu, many people are saying let's get on with it, more important things to worry about. in terms of new affordable homes, last year was the

lowest number built, 720. in terms of council houses available to rent last year, just ten new council houses delivered. guess how many on social housing waiting list, 20 9000. that's talk to people about housing. tell us how your charity helps people like claire. claire was living in a caravan and it was really unfit for herb with three children. so what we were able to do was, we tried going through the council and got nowhere so we went through coastline, a housing association charity. we were then able to give claire at the support she and her family needed. the ca rava n she and her family needed. the caravan was a disaster area, like living on a building site. and then i got help from coastline. bless

you. you are fine. it is all good now. it is fabulous. i have