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this is bbc news. the headlines at 4:00 — the government's emergency committee, cobra, are meeting to discuss the cyber attack which has disabled nhs computers in england and scotland. —— england and wales. the government is ensuring that our national cyber security centre that we are giving this our full attention, and working with all the organisations affected. europol say the scale of the attack is unprecedented as thousands of organisations in around 100 countries are affected. jeremy corbyn has insisted he and his deputy, tom watson, are "working flat out" for a labour victory at the general election. and in the women's fa cup final, a record crowd is expected for the game between birmingham city and manchester city. it is eurovision night! will britain face a brexit backlash? we will look ahead to tonight's event. and hardtalk takes us back to 20
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yea rs and hardtalk takes us back to 20 years ago when donald trump appeared on the programme as a new york institution. good afternoon, and welcome to bbc news. the government's emergency committee, cobra, is meeting this afternoon in response to the global cyber attack which has disabled nhs computers in england and scotland. the home secretary, amber rudd, said 45 different parts of the nhs had been affected. it's not yet clear whether patient safety has been compromised. the prime minister has insisted the government is giving the issue "its full attention". europol, the eu—wide law enforcement agency, described the cyber attack,
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which has struck in about 100 countries, as unprecedented in its scale. here's simonjones. a major incident declared at this hospital to ensure patient safety. saint bartholomew's in east london is part of the largest nhs trust in england. some ambulances are being diverted to neighbouring hospitals, and there will be no outpatient appointments today. some treatment has been delayed. i was a bit worried, actually. they told us all this morning that the computers are down, someone is hacking them. i have got to stay in here, it is frustrating. it is after this message came up on countless computers across the nhs demanding a ransom to access files. the disruption to the nhs is part of a global situation.
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cyber attacks are at an unprecedented level, according to europol. it is thought organisations in as many as 100 countries have been hit. 45 nhs organisations have been affected in the uk, including 11 of scotland's14 health boards. the nhs is now very much in the recovery phase there is a great deal of work ongoing to get systems back to normal. every effort is being made to make sure any impact on patient care is kept to an absolute minimum. it is windows operating systems that are hit. they attack locks users' computers before demanding money. it is believed the nhs is particularly vulnerable because of its ageing it systems. they have been asked to move from windows xp, the secretary of state for health has been very clear in that direction.
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people do not always move as quickly as you would like in these situations but there will be lessons to be learned from this sort of example. experts say it is vital technology is up—to—date. this is a little bit like making sure that you lock the doors and the windows before you go to bed. it will not necessarily stop the burglars getting in, but it will keep most of them out. this afternoon, the home secretary has cheered an emergency meeting of the committee, cobra. the government says it does not believe that any patient data has been compromised. theresa may has insisted that the cyber attack had not compromised nhs patient records. the prime minister has also said it was right for the home secretary to chair the cobra emergency meeting as she "has responsibility for these issues". the national cyber security centre is working with all organisations in the uk, and that is very important.
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i would like to thank nhs staff for working overnight to ensure, as we know, that there is no compromise to patient records. the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, said he had nothing but contempt for those behind the cyber attack. what we've now got is a bunch of 21st century highway robbers that have hacked into our nhs and are basically offering protection money to get the information back in order to treat cancer patients or anybody else. it's unbelievably disgusting, and i've got nothing but contempt for the people who have done it. jeremy corbyn has insisted he and his deputy tom watson, are "are working flat out" for a labour victory at the general election. mr corbyn‘s comments come after tom watson told the guardian that there could be a "margaret thatcher—style landslide" for the conservatives, if labour maintained its current lead in opinion polls. mr watson said it would be "very
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very difficult" for labour to turn the poll numbers around, and the party had a "mountain to climb". with me now is our political correspondent, leila nathoo. there are a couple of different interpretations of these comments, one is that it is a statement of the obvious, labour being very much behind in the opinion polls. some polls put labour behind up to 20 points. but there is another interpretation that this is an unhelpful addition to the diagnosis of labour's travails at this point in the election campaign, tom watson warning that if labour does not narrow the poll difference, then the conservatives could be on course for a majority of more than100 mps, meaning that theresa may, if she was prime minister, would be able to do what she likes. we have heard within the last half hourfrom jeremy corbyn who is out campaigning in great yarmouth, and he was asked whether he was worried about a conservative landslide. i am out round the whole
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country, and so is the party, putting out a message. we are a party for the many, not for the few. we will invest in our nhs and our education system, we will protect our pensions and pensioners, and ensure that there is an expanding economy that works for all. there will not be six million people earning less than the living wage under a labour government, there will not be tens of thousands sleeping on our streets every night. that is the difference that a labour government will make. are you not worry that your deputy leader has said that? i have spoken to my deputy leader this morning, talking about the nhs cyber attack and our policies for sport, art and culture, which are within his brief. we are both working absolutely flat out to get labour mps elected onjune the 8th. jeremy corbyn has always insisted that he is in it to win it, but there have been more comments from gordon brown this afternoon, the former prime minister, in a speech to labour members in scotland,
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who said that theresa may wants a blank cheque. it is up to you, labour voters, to select your local candidates who will be champions for things like the nhs, for education, for socialjustice. no mention of a future labour government, so the subtext is that labour will be in opposition, so let's make it a strong one. that is not the message thatjeremy corbyn will be trying to put out today, but a hint there from other senior labour figures today, a slightly different message. the prime minister has been on the campaign trail in northern ireland today. visiting an agrictultrual show in county antrim, she discussed the impact of brexit, and also urged local politicians to "come together" and restore power sharing at stormont. 0ur correspondent nick higham is there. this is the balmoral show, about 100,000 people expected here over the four days. the prime minister paid a visit,
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stopping off at the women's institute stand, watching some of the judging of beef cattle. it was a flying visit, she was only here for about an hour and a half, and northern ireland, from the point of view of a conservative election campaign, is a sideshow. they are only fielding seven candidates in the 18 northern ireland constituencies, and their share of the vote here has been minuscule historically, less than 0.5% in the northern ireland assembly elections in 2016. this is northern ireland's farming and agricultural community, and one of their main worries is what brexit might affect this. i am joined by the president of the ulsterfarmers' union. i think one of the biggest issues in northern ireland is the border, and it is good that he has recognised that this border is in its top priorities.
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the european commission negotiator? yes. probably about 30% of milk produced here in northern ireland heads south on a daily basis, 40% of our lambs that are produced here head south, and quite a bit of product comes from south to north, so there are serious everyday logistical issues. you did not have a chance to talk to the prime minister, but you have spoken to james brokenshire, the northern ireland secretary. what do you say to him that the governemtn should be doing about this? there have to be imaginative situations to all of this. time will tell that what that means, but anything that is going to head towards a hard border we will present huge challenges to the food industry in northern ireland. you hear about models elsewhere, the border between sweden and norway, for instance.
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has anybody put a finger on what an imaginative solution might be? we have not had any suggestions of what that might be. the main thing is that there is a recognition they are within the uk government and, when we speak to our counterparts in southern ireland, we do realise that this is one of the key areas, and there will have to be some serious thinking done about this one. thank you very much. high on the european commission's agenda. it looks as though it will have to be high on the british government's agenda. how do you maintain cross—border trade in northern ireland and the republic of ireland if one is in the eu and one is no longer? thank you, nick. back to our top story and the cyber
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attack that has hit the nhs. with me 110w attack that has hit the nhs. with me now is our technology correspondent, chris foxx. chrissy, you have a little bit more information on these spread or something that could stop the spread. hopefully one variant has been the disabled, actually by accident. a security researcher found embedded in the code a very long and unusual web address, but it was not a real website, it did not go anywhere. so he registered her to himself, and in doing so, he found that he accidentally disabled it from spreading, and heating step the bees and for that is that it was deliberately coded, and as long as it failed to do so, it knew that it was running on a real computer because that website did not exist. antivirus researchers often test on a fake computer, a sandbox machine, it is known as. if you test a virus on one of these computers, it might
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try that website and come back with a positive response because it is not really contacting the website, it is the sandbox giving it artificial information. so it stopped researchers from analysing it, but it has backfired because it has now disabled that version of the worm, but there is now a risk that the cybercriminals will take the worm, we engineered it and take that checkout, and it may come back with a vengeance. checkout, and it may come back with a vengeance. eye it is almost mutating. do you really think that they would do that? they have drawn a lot of attention, and governments are after them, people are saying you will never find them. they are asking for such small amounts of money, so you cannot track the money, so you cannot track the money, but do you really think they would carry on by mutating the virus in the court? there are a lot of ways to hide on the internet and there is a lot of money to be made. we have seen about £12,000 has been made in £64,000 in the bitcoin
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addresses online, and it is difficult to see who is claiming that money. —— 64,000 transactions, £12,000. will criminals feel bad for having turned off hospital machines? we do not know. how easy is it to decrypt, because it is most like a magic key, isn't it? if you have one half of the key but not the other, you cannot break it. this is strong encryption that has not been cracked yet, and it would take auden at a computer is perhaps millions of yea rs computer is perhaps millions of years to crack it, so you do need the other key. —— ordinarily computers. you do need to keep the key held privately. it is also a good thing that encryption is so strong for the rest of us, because we can do things like online banking and send secure messages to each other, so encryption is not necessarily bad, on the one it is misused like this. everybody is
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watching this story, this kill switch that seems to have been found. the latest statement from northumbria health care trust, they have listed who has been affected, and taken to steps. firstly, those who have been affected by this ra nsomwa re have who have been affected by this ransomware have switched off their it systems, and even those who have not been affected have also switched off their it systems. now, there are people who say that switching off your it systems even though you are not affected, is making the disruption to nhs services worse, they do not have to do it. will that stop the spread of the worm, just switching everything off? stop the spread of the worm, just switching everything off7m stop the spread of the worm, just switching everything off? it is one way of stopping it from spreading, we know that this worm is losing out on the computers it is already on. it is going to try all the ports, all the doors, to see if anyone has left them open, so if your computer is on and the door has been left open, the worm can move across, so yes, turning off the computer means that that particular computer will
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not be infected. but it also means that you cannot use that computer to send e—mails are accessed patient records, so it is the worst of two evils. do you want a computer that is running and could get infected with ransomware, is running and could get infected with ra nsomwa re, are is running and could get infected with ransomware, are you going to turnit with ransomware, are you going to turn it off and at least know that that computer is safe even though you cannot use it at the moment? we think that at the moment, users' computers are not the ones that are storing all the data, just the ones that are used day—to—day. storing all the data, just the ones that are used day-to-day. chris foxx, thank you. the headlines on bbc news — the government's cobra committee will meet to discuss the cyber attack which has disabled nhs computers in england and scotland. —— the government's cobra committee has met. the nissan plant in sunderland has also confirmed it has been affected. europol say the scale of the attack is unprecedented as thousands of organisations in around 100 countries are affected by the malicious software known as "ransomware". the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, has denied that senior members
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of his party are already admitting defeat in thejune general election. in sport, manchester city are up to third place in the premier league, after this riyad mahrez penalty was co ntroversially after this riyad mahrez penalty was controversially disallowed denying leicester city an equaliser. and rangers clinched first place in the scottish premiership after a 2—1 victory over heart of midlothian. and lewis hamilton clinches pole position at the spanish grand prix. we will have the next round up at 5:30pm. the eurovision song contest is being held in ukraine this evening, with italy's entry involving a man dressed as a gorilla the strong favourite to win.
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luciejones will be representing the uk performing her ballot, never give up on you. 0ur correspondent has been to meet some of the contestants. singing it's eurovision 2017, and it's all rather confusing. take azerbaijan's entry — a horse head on a ladder. why? the audience is not understanding it. i am leaving the whole meaning to them. oh, well, that's clear, then(!) and what is going on with one of the favourites, italy, this year? why the monkey? why the ape? "the monkey," francesco gabbani tells me, "is a symbol that at the end of the day we are all naked apes." among the frontrunners are bulgaria and portugal.
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but what about the united kingdom? you know, there was a time when the uk was always a contender in eurovision. we always seemed to be in with a shot at the top spot. more recently, we have been propping up the table. but could this be the year that britain is back? at rehearsals, luciejones has been impressing everybody with her power ballad, never give up on you. i am hoping that i will go home with the respect of the nation that watched the show at home. if the uk wants success in eurovision, this could be our golden opportunity.
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iamjoined i am joined now by the president of the uk's biggest eurovision fan club. lovely to see you again. how was the excitement building up? the atmosphere is incredible, just a fewer hours ago, i have been walking around the streets of kiev this afternoon, and there are flags from all the different countries. people are mingling and chatting, people are mingling and chatting, people are walking down to try to get the best seats for what looks like being a fantastic show. tell me about italy leading the charge. tell me about the italian entrant. he is a great performer and... he does justify his place as one of the big favourites, but it is not the big favourites, but it is not the big favourite that it was a week or so
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ago. it could be a lot closer than eve ryo ne ago. it could be a lot closer than everyone is expecting. ago. it could be a lot closer than everyone is expectinglj ago. it could be a lot closer than everyone is expecting. i understand that portugal is making a late charge for the lead. what about britain, lucie jones? she has been touring with rent! for a while, where she has been a fantastic ambassadorfor us. where she has been a fantastic ambassador for us. normally we support the uk entry because it is ours and we have two, but this time eve ryo ne ours and we have two, but this time everyone genuinely like the song and it is getting a great reaction, not just from the uk fans but also from people from other european countries, who will be the people voting tonight. and it is positioned quite well, i think it is 18th to perform. a lot of people are saying there will be some sort of brexit backlash. from what you're saying there, there is a lot of support for luciejones
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there, there is a lot of support for lucie jones brexit has not been an issue, because we have such a strong song. if you are watching your contest in estonia or mulled over you will not be thinking about brexit, you will be thinking about what is the best song. the last country to and from 18 to position was denmark, and the entrant that you're actually wrote this year's uk entry. it is entertainment but it is...i entry. it is entertainment but it is... ido entry. it is entertainment but it is... i do not know how to put this, but it is most a comedy show for a lot of people. i know a lot of people take it seriously, such as the australians. they are not even in europe! why do they love it so much? are theyjust party animals? there are quite a few australian fancier who are getting into the spirit of it, but theyjust love the competitive nature of it. they love the fact that it is so unique,
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nobody else in the world has anything like univision, and i note that the uk has traditionally taken the mickey out of eurovision a bit. it does have a silly elements to it, but at the end of the day it is a music competition for the biggest stars in some writers to take home the glory. thank you forjoining me. in the last few minutes, the home secretary, amber rudd has spoken after this afternoon's emergency cobra meeting. the members of that meeting convened to discuss the cyber attack on the nhs. let's hear what she had to say. i have just cheered cobra to ensure that we have a cross government response to this virus attack. —— chaired cobra. we need to ensure that the nhs remains robust, and i would like to commend the work that nhs staff have done to
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ensure that the hospitals and patient surgeries are going to continue to run smoothly. in fact, 9796 continue to run smoothly. in fact, 97% of the nhs trusts and hospitals and doctors are working as normal. so the response has been very good, and that is due to the good work of the staff and the resilience that was already put in place. this has been an international attack, it has impacted 100 countries and it has affected our nhs, but also some elements of industry. we think we have the right preparedness in place and also the right plans going forward over the next few days to ensure that we limit its impact going forward. 0ur correspondentjudith moritz is in wigan. what are you hearing? they have been affected to a certain extent here, but the have shut things down to ensure that it would not progress
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further. the chief of the nhs trust is with me now. take me back to when he first noticed the problem. just before 2pm yesterday afternoon, we got the first notification of the ransomwa re appearing got the first notification of the ransomware appearing on one of systems, so close down —— be closed down the internal, locations within minutes so that the virus could not be spared any further. we now know that round about 30 of our desktops and laptops have been affected, and about five of our systems. for each of the systems affected, we have got a workaround because we have a business continuity plan in process, which is now working very well. the amount of inconvenience and suffering has been absolutely minimalas faras suffering has been absolutely minimal as far as patients are concerned, so we minimal as far as patients are concerned, so we are very minimal as far as patients are concerned, so we are very pleased with the response of our staff. what are the implications been? the digital system is not there, so no serving taken digital system is not there, so no serving ta ken by digital system is not there, so no serving taken by hand and phone calls answered in person. the
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pathology tests themselves, the diagnostic scans, x—rays and so on, those are absolutely as normal, but whereas in the past, the results would be available electronically, that part of the system is not working, so the results are available either by phone or in a written report. you have also asked people not to come to a&e unless it isa people not to come to a&e unless it is a definite emergency. we have advised people that the waiting time might be longer than usual, but we do not want to stop people from coming to a&e if they really need to. the it team, who would normally be off weekend, are working round the clock pretty much. yes, they are working tremendously hard. they stayed until 2:30am and were back at 6am to fix the systems, because we wa nt 6am to fix the systems, because we want to be back to normal as quickly as possible. at the normal, -- at
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the moment, it is a weekend, but some hospitals are saying they might have to make cancellations for elective surgery and so on into next week. what is the situation here into next week? we are not expecting to have any cancellations at all at the moment, because i remain system is working, so that will back up any clinics or procedures that are taking place. we are hoping for as much business as usual on monday. we will be waiting for two or three systems which are maintained by external suppliers, and as you might expect, they are swamped by people asking for them to be fixed, so we might not get them fixed until monday or tuesday. yellow max of these are for scanning machines and things like that? yes that is right. they need to come and confirm that things are already. thank you very much, and as andrew was saying there, as far as the patients are
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concerned, they are hoping that there are people behind the scenes working to stop anything more from happening. the hospital have said they need to be absolutely sure that it is safe to turn computers back on because they will not do that until they are definitely ready. thank you, judah. time now to take a look at the weather forecast. today we had sunshine earlier on in wales. some rain moving in from the west, some rain pushing into scotland, a rather grey and cool scene in perth & kinross where rain is desperately needed. we can see the extent of the cloud in england and wales, wetter weather moving away from northern ireland and up into scotland. boarding coming in from the west, this weather from coming into wales and northern
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ireland, the rainbow move eastwards, perhaps if you have a burst of rain as well. temperatures will be up around 11 or 12 on the eastern side of the uk. temperatures could get low enough for a pinch of grass frost in rural parts of northern ireland. into tomorrow, if you are out and about hourly, that south—westerly breeze and lots of sunshine to begin with. we have some sunshine to begin with. we have some sunshine and one or two showers in scotland, with some rain still clinging on to the north—east of the mainland. should be clearing away from north—east england, dawdling foran houror from north—east england, dawdling for an hour or two across norfolk and suffolk, one or two showers wandering in from the south—west, but for most of england and wales, sunday will start bright and sunny, perhaps a little breezy, temperatures around 13 degrees. the rain soon clears away from east anglia, a little longer to clear across the north—east of scotland, heading towards 0rkney and shetland, and showers following on that south—westerly breeze, one or two heavy ones for northern ireland and scotland. temperatures not far off
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what we have had today, possibly around the high teens, maybe 20 or so in the sunshine. more football on the way in the premier league on sunday, and generally speaking, it will be dry. if you do catch a shower, you are quite unlucky, or blocky, depending on how you want to look at it. a brisk south—westerly breeze picking up heading into monday, low—pressure heading our way from a long way south, picking up someone from a long way south, picking up someone and thickening cloud and outbreaks of rain. the rain is a lwa ys outbreaks of rain. the rain is always good to be heavier across these western hills, some strong to gale force winds. not too much rain in the south—east, but everywhere else will see showers. could be as high as 25 briefly on tuesday.
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