tv 100 Days BBC News May 16, 2017 7:00pm-7:31pm BST
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hello and welcome to one hundred days plus. the white house pushes back against reports that president trump released damaging classified intelligence to the russians. but some american allies now wonder whether it's safe to share sensitive information with this administration. the white house sends its national security advisor out to defend the president — his message, mr trump did not compromise us security. it is wholly appropriate for the president to share whatever information he thinks is necessary to ensure the security of the american people. that is what he did. our fight is against isis, as general mcmaster said — and i know he feels that we had a great meeting. but senior republicans join democrats in criticising the president with questions about credibility, chaos and competence. i think we could do with the little less drama from the white house on a lot of things. the president has lavished praise
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on some of the world's most notorious strongmen. and one of them is today a guest at the white house. president erdogan of turkey, who is not altogether happy the us is arming syrian kurds. and, news that ford might soon be shedding 200,000 jobs? we'll tell you why the car company may be hitting a speed bump. hello, i am katty kay in washington, christian fraser is in london. and we are both confused. are reports that donald trump gave classified intelligence to russian officials a storm in a tea cup or a major breach of us national security? the administration says it's the former. critics say this marks a serious violation of an ally‘s confidence. the white house is not denying the information concerning islamic state was given to russia, itjust says it was no big deal — in fact, "wholly appropriate" is how the national security advisor described it a short time ago. hr mcmaster said a report in the washington post accusing the president of giving away intelligence was not accurate.
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i stand by my statement i said yesterday. the premise of that article was false, that in any way the president had the conversation that was an appropriate resulted in a lapse of national security. the real issue and what i would like to see debated more, is that our national—security has been put at risk by those violating confidentiality. and in the past hour this is what president trump had to say about his meeting with the russians. we had a very successful meeting with the foreign minister of russia. 0ur fighters against isis, as hr mcmaster said, i know he is said and he feels that we had a great meeting with the foreign minister, so we are going to have a lot of great success over the coming years and we want to
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get as many to help fight terrorism as possible. let's go to jane o'brien who is at the white house for us. to clarify, is the white house saying that everything in the washington post report is false or not quite that clear? you tell me. it is as clear as mud because certainly last night the white house was saying the story is false and today they are saying the conversation was appropriate in the context in which it was hard, so does that mean president trump giveaway classified information are not? again, general mcmaster couldn't clarify that because he couldn't clarify that because he couldn't say what information was classified or not and that is a matter of policy and he wouldn't divulge it. so we are still no clear as to the context of content of what was said. certainly the white house is saying that it was appropriate
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and didn't jeopardise national—security and the focus from the white house as it so often is is on the leaks, and how did the media and the washington post get to hear about any of this? was that actually appropriate to sheer intelligence that had been provided by a third country? with the cia deem it appropriate when the commander—in—chief seems to have been sloop orally briefed on the sensitivity of that information that he casually dropped it into conversation. this afternoon one european official warned that his country might soon stop sharing classified information with the us for fear of it being leaked. maybe an indication of the damage that has been caused. alsojoining us now is former cia counter terrorism analyst, aki peritz. thanks forjoining us. let's take a step back. explain to us what cold water classified intelligence is and who has access to it. one of the things that people has in the
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classified work is our top secret security clearance, but codeword is to do with specific things that are happening. when i was working counterterrorism in iraq i had codeword access to a variety of special platforms but i wouldn't have other access to the north korean nuclear programme codeword information, because i had no reason to have it, so this is a way the united states and most of the intelligence community around the world compartmentalised as information, so one person can never know anything apart from the folks at the top, the president and national security adviser and others. the point is that this would be information he would maybe not even sure what his own cabinet but which he saw fit to share with the russians? and that is the interesting thing. if you have information, and one of the other things is that it is a originator controlled, so we had this understanding across the us
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government but also with allies across the world, that if someone gives us information we will protect it not provided to other countries u nless it not provided to other countries unless the originating country actually provides the assurance that we can do so. the new york times about 20 minutes ago just said it was israel that provided this original information, so it is going to be rather interesting that donald trump is going to israel in the coming days when they will see why did you share this information with the russians? israel is specifically concerned about providing information to moscow because what moscow was doing in syria is cooperating with the syrian government and the iranians, who are obviously very predisposed towards belligerence, towards the israelis, so belligerence, towards the israelis, so it is a huge mess these people are try to figure out in the next weeks. you have been listening and that has been reported by nbc as well, that it was the israelis. you
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have listened to hr mcmaster unseen everything that has come out of the white house in the last 2a hours. what is your bottom line take on this? how damaging was the intelligence that was given by president trump to the russians and how damaging is it potentially to intelligence relationships with allies? intelligence is a team sport and even though the united states has global reach and the burmese military and we spend lots of money, we need our allies, and if our allies cannot depend on the united states to maintain its secrets we have a real problem. maybe the next time somebody has the crown jewels of information, they may not be so helpful in future. the united states occupies a central role in the intelligence world, especially fighting isis and al-qaeda, but on other peripheral issues, people may have second thoughts and that is the
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major problem we are going to see in the months and years ahead. so, just to be clear, not so much the actual specific intelligence that might have been revealed that meeting that could cause problems for the white house, it is the damage this could do to allies and getting intelligence from them in the future? what we don't know if the actual contents of the intelligence provided to the russians. 0nly donald trump and the russians really know what they were talking about. it is really what we can do in the future. this time it is about isis, maybe next time it is russia or eastern europe on north korea, and ina set eastern europe on north korea, and in a set of braggadocio the president may be talking about extremely sensitive things that another country has given us in confidence, and that is something the united states has to be very careful about providing to other people. one of the things hr
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mcmaster said was that he didn't know where the information really came from. that is concerning as well. as the president doesn't know where the sources of information coming from, weird and hot water. where the sources of information coming from, weird and hot waterlj was going to ask you very question. the difficulty the nsa had was that president trump had mentioned this off the cuff and he didn't seem to know, an even clearer which is more serious, how sensitive this information was. 0ne serious, how sensitive this information was. one theory put forward is that the president likes everything condensed, he doesn't like these reams of documents, he likes things in bullet form and in charts, and maybe that is the problem. he picked out this nugget of information without realising what the source was. one of the things you realise information that you have to know your sources and where it comes from and to the information received and what is the
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damage of this was provided to other places. everybody in the intelligence community knows you cannot give it intelligence willy—nilly and if you don't know your sources, and something as extremely sensitive as a potential plot in the middle east given to us by another country, if the information is the equivalent of what you read in a blog and you can differentiate between the two, we have a real problem in the white house and in our intelligence community, and other countries that rely on the united states, and we rely on the united states, and we rely on the united states, and we rely on them, are going to be very troubled by this event. senior figures today talking about whether the president is doing his homework fully enough. if senior republicans were wary of speaking out in the wake of james comey‘s dismissal, no such concerns this time. the head of the senate foreign relations committee, bob corker, a trump supporter said the allegations were troubling. very troubling, in fact, and
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obviously they are enabling or spiral right now. he went on to say they have to come to grips with all thatis they have to come to grips with all that is happening. joining me in the studio is susan page — the washington bureau chief from usa today. you have been covering american politics for a long time and you covered donald trump's campaign and administration. does this incident of sharing intelligence with the russians seem different somehow do you? the past week seems different because firstly at the firing of the fbi directorjames call me at least in part because he was the leader of the investigation. and now we have the investigation. and now we have the disclosure of what seems like loose talk with russian officials by the president. there raw two things that general mcmaster said, that we re that general mcmaster said, that were quite amazing. 0ne that general mcmaster said, that were quite amazing. one was that the president wasn't aware of the sources and methods of misinformation and that he made the decision to disclose it on the fly. there had not been a careful process
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that this would be a useful thing to do, so both those incidents, raises questions about whether the president act on impulse and that that causes him great controversy. i do think his situation now is more troubling than it has been in his first 100 days. i was struck last night as this news broke by how quickly republicans came and criticised. we saw bob corker and john mccain, who has been a critic before, but we also saw paul ryan. you had senior republicans, can see it was concerning. democrats are already inflamed about donald trump but for republicans, you now see them publicly criticising him. we had a local republican member of congress for the virginia suburbs put out a briefing —— request asking
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for a briefing from the intelligence committees so that they knew at least as much as the russians! that is quite the statement from somebody who is from the president was my own party and who will face a tough the election bid as will many other republicans. you see them starting to put some light between themselves and the president. this could cause problems for the president with his own party. i was just own party. i wasjust wondering own party. i was just wondering whether leon pa netta, i was just wondering whether leon panetta, talking about this earlier today, that there are very few people in the oval office right now who will speak truth to power and say, mr president, you cannotjust say, mr president, you cannotjust say or tweet what you want because it demeans the office and it demeans you. we know that the president's advisers, some of them have told him to stop treating. this is causing problems for him. we have seen that his own supporters say to stop tweeting and they don't think it is
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helpful. it is one thing we thought general webmaster would be willing to do ina general webmaster would be willing to do in a way that general flynn was not. we have after the filing of james comey that there might be a staff shake—up and they would try to do things differently. what do you think will be the result in the white house of this incident? there was continuing top today are the big shake—up coming. the problem is that the president, it has not been his staffers but his own tweets, so i'm not sure about changing the secretary or his strategist is going to make a difference in terms of how the white house operates. it revolves around the president's own conduct. one thing that is interesting that to hearing from allies of the united states is that they had been concerned about the foreign policy team and foreign policy in general. there is no more
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stabilisation and they think there's a good team in place with hr mcmaster, but there are increasing concerns about the president's character, and whether this white house is just too character, and whether this white house isjust too impetuous character, and whether this white house is just too impetuous and character, and whether this white house isjust too impetuous and i think that gets to the issue of whether there is competency in the white house, and what bob corker was seeing, they have to get better at dealing with this kind of crisis. the issue of bringing the president into line, you wonder whether some put this stuff out there hoping they've is huge blow back and that makes shock into changing his ways. credibility is ha rd—won makes shock into changing his ways. credibility is hard—won and easily lost. what we saw today, and we didn't get it with the filing of the fbi director last week, but senior republicans now coming out and talking about his competence as a president. those are a few republicans, and i will push back a little bit on how broad that
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criticism of competency is. susan raised it and you have voices are raising now, but you also have people saying, you have affected people saying, you have affected people in there, a national security adviser under defence secretary is good, they think the secretary of state is good, and the question of the president instead he knowingly give information to the russians that was sensitive, or did he not knowingly give information to the russians that was sensitive, and which would be worse two that seems to be the question. that has been a lot happening today. president trump is under scrutiny because of russia — but his affection for turkey's increasingly autocratic leader is also causing concern. recep tayyip erdogan was at the white house today for what mr trump described as a strong and solid discussion. turkey is of course a critical alliance for the americans. and for europe too. but while many europeans are alarmed at the way mr erdogan is behaving, mr trump recently described him as "a great guy." so what can the white house get in exchange get for its favourable treatment of turkey's leader? we're joined now by soner cagaptay —
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he's the director of the turkish research program at the washington institute and author of "the new sultan: erdogan and the crisis of modern tu rkey". use of president erdogan getting the red carpet treatment and i imagine thatis red carpet treatment and i imagine that is the image she wants beamed back into turkey to show he is being rehabilitated in the west after the referendum? that is correct. erdogan has just won with a very narrow margin of victory a referendum that makes an style president, but it was a narrow margin of victory and were large—scale irregularities. they may or may not have been large enough to flip the outcome, but he wants to dismiss those allegations and move
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forward. the first thing he did after the referendum was to call it to western leaders to recognise the result. turkey has had elections fairand square result. turkey has had elections fair and square since 1950, so if he is calling for this affirmation that is calling for this affirmation that is like a freudian slip, one thing that affirmation to come from president trump, and he got exactly that. he was already 50% happy at being invited year saw it was bound to bea being invited year saw it was bound to be a good meeting because he got what he wanted. the sticky issue is the syrian kurds that the americans are looking to get involved and tacky is against this. would you see them going on this? the regional factions, president erdogan is looking the other way as the united states works with them to take raqqa
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from isis. they will look the other way as they move against isis stronghold in arrack and to me it seems this is the deal struck today at the white house going forward. we will see this with the liberation of raqqa with turkish assistance, and support against factions in arrack will come after that especially after mosul is liberated. they have promised assistance to turkey against criminal fundraising networks in europe, so in this regard party has received strong report regarding the pkk presence in return for giving washington the green light and promising not to be a spoiler regarding us plans to take isis. although you imagine this is a particularly good day to get a deal with donald trump because under so much pressure? that is correct. he
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probably has other things going on in the back of his mind. he arrived in washington on the day the us president's mind is preoccupied with the major domestic crisis, and i think erdogan therefore probably was unlucky in the strep and maybe got a sympathetic ear regarding other issues raised. this is a moment that will help them take kentucky's secular democratic system. once they took it down and they both wanted the country to themselves and what ensued was a real power struggle, so they have become —— if he found a sympathetic ear from president trump in this regard, in the sense that he listens to his concerns, that will also make erdogan happy going forward. thank you for being with us. forward. thank you for being with us. last week, henry kissinger was
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brought into the white house to school, probably a good work, donald trump on what he needs to do going to the middle east next week. in mind of what has been going on in the last 2a hours, a lot of people will be rather nervous about what he will be rather nervous about what he will be rather nervous about what he will be speaking about in these meetings? as was pointed out, he will have israel on his agenda when he goes on this trip as well, and if these reports are right that this intelligence that was given to the russians came from israel, that will be one tricky conversation. nato still want the assurance donald trump is fully committed to article five. members of the g—7 confused about what this administration's policies are around the world, national is a more protectionism, they will want the assurance to. this is the message i keep wanting from diplomats in washington, that they don't really know what they are dealing with. what is said one day
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can be countermanded the next day, when one person speaks are speaking for the president or not? that is causing a lot of concern among american allies. we have to deal with the white house but they have to figure out exactly how to go about that process. is that trip will be fascinating because of that. donald trump hasn't been the only one under fire for his alleged handling of sensitive information. a photo in the washington post — revealed something that perhaps should have been kept secret. take a look at this. it's a photo of the president and that's his bodyguard keith schiller — who's carrying a stack of papers. attached to the top is a yellow sticky note — which clearly says "jim, mad dog, mattis", along with the defence secretary — jim mattis' mobile phone number. here's the thing. so mad is this news cycle that the washington post didn't even know they had printed that until a reader said, didn't even know they had printed that untila readersaid, i didn't even know they had printed that until a reader said, i have spotted this phone number. so the
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pool spotted this phone number. so the pool. the picture and said, are, yes! they called it and got his voice mail. the two things to say, keith schiller, the president's bodyguard, is employing the sticky note to hide very sensitive information like this mobile phone number, and the other thing is that even when they are jotted down on yellow post notes, the actually refer to him as mad dog, he is mad dog even to his colleagues! i thought it was as that refer to him as that but even in the white house yea rs as that but even in the white house years mad dog. that is how do we always referred to you, christian cool presenter fraser! that is a lie! there are other names are not repeatable on here. an award—winning mexican journalist who reported extensively on the activities of drug cartels has been murdered. javier valdez was killed by gunmen who opened fire on his car as he travelled to work. fourjournalists have been killed in mexico injust the past two months.
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turkey and mexico both very dangerous countries for journalists and we have been speaking about them today. the un security council has strongly condemned north korea's recent ballistic missile test — and warned of further sanctions. north korea says the missile it tested successfully on sunday was a new type of mid to long range rocket, capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. but he 15 member security council, that includes north korea's closest ally china, has demanded that pyongnang put a stop to the tests. here in the uk — the leader of the labour party, jeremy corbyn, has officially launched the party's general election manifesto. the programme includes plans to re—nationalise the water companies, as well as the railways and the uk's postal service. the labour party says the pledges will be paid for by more tax on businesses and higher earners — some of the details were leaked last week. and just to say, viewers
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in the uk can get up to date with all the events in the general election campaign in the election wrap, which follows one hundred days plus. that's on the bbc news channel, from 7:30 across the uk. you're watching 100 days plus from bbc news. still to come for viewers on bbc world news — we will continue our examination of donald trump's meeting with russian officials in the oval office — former defence secretary william cohen will be here to tell us what this means for national security. and we will look at ford's plan to cut 10% of its global workforce. that's still to come on 100 days plus, from bbc news. if yesterday the rain that had us
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talking today it is the warmth, with some sunshine. north—east scotland and aberdeenshire and parts of east anglia and south—east england, and the temperature up to 25.8, the highest in the uk this year! not everybody happy sunshine and some we re everybody happy sunshine and some were dealing with the rain in the afternoon in south—west england towards the midlands, and much of england and wales will stay cloudy overnight with some outbreaks of rain and becoming a bit more widespread later in the night, but that will serve to hold the temperature up, but largely clear skies for scotland and northern ireland, close to freezing by morning. during the day, and in scotla nd morning. during the day, and in scotland and northern ireland tomorrow, sunny spells at times and scattered showers developing, but still some wet weather affecting many parts of england and wales. in
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between the showers, the sun will make an appearance and feeling pleasa nt make an appearance and feeling pleasant in the sunshine as it will across scotland. much of southern and eastern scotland will stay dry with showers confined to the north—west. westernmost fringes of england and wales could avoid most of the rain in the afternoon and may brighten up about, but in the rain it will be a cooler day with the temperature around 10—13. warmth still to be had in east anglia and south—east england, warm and humid again, but the rain gets in the evening and the potential for thundery bursts before it clears away. parts of central and eastern england could end up with 20—a0 millimetres of rain after being so drive. a cooler and fresh fuel across the uk what's good sunny spells and showers around, mostly agree as north and western parts of the uk, just down a few degrees but
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still feeling pleasant in the sunshine away from showers. low pressure stays close by for friday and into the weekend, what does that mean? some sunshine at times some showers. catch a show around that could be heavy and sunday with the risk of hail, pleasant in the sunshine, but they had in mind the knights will be turning chilly. hello and welcome to the election wrap, your essential guide to the day's campaigning, right across the uk. labour and plaid cymru, the floor is yours. this time, it's official. jeremy corbyn has launched labour's manifesto in bradford pledging billions for the nhs, education and childcare. the price tag, an eye watering £48.6 billion. labour says it can find the money, but we'll apply our own reality check. and in the rhondda valley the welsh nationalists, plaid cymru, say they'll stick up for agriculture
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