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hello, i'm ros atkins with outside source. the us national security adviser has defended donald trump's handling of classified material. what the president discussed with the foreign minister was wholly appropriate to that conversation and is consistent with the routine sharing of information between the president and any leaders with whom he is engaged. just hours after president trump had tweeted that it was his right to share this information with russia, he may think so, but the story has detonated across washington. mr trump has been hosting president erdogan of turkey. the opposition labour party has released its ma nifesto, labour party has released its manifesto, promising one of the biggest shake—up of the economy in decades. we talk you through how labour plans to do that. some of russia's biggest social networks and search engines have been banned. we have got bbc russia to explain why
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that has been done. we look at how credible those reports are that north korea could have been behind the global cyber attack. just under 2a hours ago, this story went up onto the washington post website. within seconds, it was being shared thousands and thousands of times. its claim was that donald trump had showed classified information to the russian foreign minister and the russian ambassador to the us. this meeting you can see here happened the day after the president had sacked the director of the fbi. he sacked him in part because of his frustrations over the investigation into the alleged collusion between mr trump's campaign and russia. well the white house reacted quickly to the washington post story. several
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members of his administration quickly denied the claim and then when donald trump woke up this morning, he hit twitter hard saying, "as morning, he hit twitter hard saying, "as president i wanted to share with russia, which i had the absolute right to do, facts pertaining to terrorism and airline flight safety, humanitarian reasons, plus i want to russia to greatly step up their fight against the islamic state group and terrorism." now one of those who found himself not entirely in sync with what the president said on twitter was the national security adviser general mcmaster. he gave a press briefing earlier. this is some of it. what we don't do is discuss what is and what isn't classified. what i will tell you in the context of that discussion, what the president discussed with the foreign minister was wholly appropriate to that conversation and is consistent with the routine sharing of information between the president and any leaders with whom he's engaged. reporterz... the
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engaged. reporter: . .. the us engaged. reporterz... the us received from an intelligence partner? i'm not going to be the one to confirm that sort of information that could jeopardise oui’ of information that could jeopardise our security. reporterz... us allies who have this type of sharing relationship with the us will stop that type of information? no, i'm not concerned. that conversation was wholly appropriate to the conversation. i think wheaty appropriate with the expectations of our intelligence partners. across the 24 hours we've had a number of different accounts of what happened from the trump administration. they haven't all been exactly the same. i've been speaking to katty kay in washington about how all these accounts hang together. the white house seems to be saying this is no big deal, that the information that was passed on to the russians, as you heard it there, was wholly appropriate to be passed on and it's a storm in a tea cup. critics of the administration and those include democrats and republicans, top republicans, are saying hold on, this is very concerning and members of the
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intelligence community are saying the problem here is that you have violated the trust of an american ally who passed you this information. so i think it's a little disingenuous of hr mcmaster to down play this quite so much, when there are serious concerns now about america's relationship with its intelligence partners and the impact that this sharing of information could have on that. impact that this sharing of information could have on thatlj information could have on that.|j guess, information could have on that.” guess, this isn'tjust about what happened in that meeting. it's the fa ct happened in that meeting. it's the fact that someone, presumably someone fact that someone, presumably someone senior, decided to share what happened in that meeting. well, the question that the republicans are raising, the white house is raising, you heard it there from general mcmaster, the real issue here, they say, is the leaking of this information. we don't exactly now how this happens. it seems that the small group of people in the meeting, there was a transcript of that meeting. somehow that got onto electronic form. that was then disseminated to other people in intelligence community and in the administration. and somewhere along the line it was sent out to the
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washington post which is how they got their story. two key issues, one is we still don't know the fact of exactly what it was that president trump shared with the russians and how sensitive that sharing could be. and what does this do now to america's allies, who are expressing some concern, some of them, about sharing information with the white housein sharing information with the white house in future, in case it ends up like this, in the hands of the russians. we'll hear from katty kay ina russians. we'll hear from katty kay in a moment again. there has been a huge amount of reaction to what's happened. this is a republican senator saying, "obviously they're ina senator saying, "obviously they're in a downward spiral right now and they've got to figure out a way to come to grips with all that's happening." indeed there can be times when you look at the trump administration and it's a bit like a pin ball machine which has gone into multiball mode. katty kay has been talking about how chaotic things have been getting. my producer here has reminded me that this time a week agojim comey was still the
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head of the fbi, none ever this had happened and life seemed relatively normal, normal by the standards of washington. all of that has changed, just in the space of one short week. we seem to have been in constant crisis mode for the last seven days. much of it generated by the president himself. that's what bob corker, the head of the foreign relations committee in the senate, a senior republican senator is referring to, there is this — and another, the head of the republicans in the senate himself, mitch mccolonel has said, we need less drama coming out of this white house. there has been a week of almost constant drama that is self—made and i think now, you know, thatis self—made and i think now, you know, that is hurting the president with his own party. this is different from last week. after the firing of james comey i didn't hear senior republicans come out en masse and criticise the president. what struck me last night here in washington was how fast top republicans came out
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and said, hold on, this is not ok. now, ina and said, hold on, this is not ok. now, in a normal situation, there is no doubt that a meeting between tu rkey‘s no doubt that a meeting between turkey's president and the american president would be our lead story. not so, because of that trump intelligence story that we've been focussing on. but this is very important. the turkish president has beenin important. the turkish president has been in washington and both men maed a joint statement earlier. -- made a joint statement earlier. i look forward to working together on achieving peace and security in the middle east, on confronting the shared threats and on working towards a future of dignity and safety for all of our people. translation: keeping our outstanding relations is now very important for common interests but also stability of the globe and peace around the world. a few takes on this meeting i wa nted world. a few takes on this meeting i wanted to share with you. this is the washington institute saying both of these men need each other and they both know it. what's definitely
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not in doubt is that while they need each other, the relationship between the two countries is tense. one of their differences is over this man. he lives in the us and turkey blames him for last year's failed coup. they want him extradited though there's no prospect of that happening. he denies that coup allegation, but certainly he's no fan of of the turkish president. if you read this article in the washington post he says, "the turkey he once knew as a hope inspiring country its way to a democracy has become a dominion of a president who is doing everything he can to amass power." that's a renchs to the election a few weeks ago which president erdogan won. donald trump had approved arming kurdish fighters in the region last
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week. "erdogan is the odds on favourite to make trump squirm. that isa favourite to make trump squirm. that is a reference to that decision to arm the kirds and the fact that he was certain to bring it up, as he did. translation: there is no future for terrorist organisations in our future. taking the ypg and pyd into consideration in the region will never be accepted and it is against the demrobl agreement that we have reached. and we should never allow those groups to manipulate the religious and ethnic structure of the region using terrorism as a pretext on excuse. it's often on stories relating to turkey we turn to bbc turkish. both leaders kept their own positions in some key issues. president erdogan took this conference as an opportunity to give his views on key issues to global and us audience. do
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you think president erdogan understands that the americans are not going to stop arming the kurds. it's a very complicated issue for turkey especially, because the us has the kurds as its major ally in syria, fighting against so—called islamic state. turkey believes that specific group within the syrian democratic forces which fights against is is an off—shoot of pkk. it's very affiliated with the pkk, who is conducted a guerrilla war in turkey in the last three decades. for turkey, this kurdish group in syria is a terrorist organisation as well. i think the main difference between these two lierds, these two countries, in general, is that they see the counter—terrorism in syria differently, for turkey, it involves the kurdish groups. but for the us and west in general, they see kurds
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are their allies in syria against the islamic state. what do you think president erdogan‘s priority is on this trip? what does he hope to take home and say to kurds, i've been to america and i've come back with this? i think the main thing is that he needs some guarantees from the us side that the kurds will not have some sort of an autonomous region in northern syria. that's one issue. second issue, as you mentioned, the extradition of gulan. if he he is extradited from the us, it will be a huge victory for erdogan himself. particularly since the coup injuly, this is one of the key issues he usesin this is one of the key issues he uses in domestic policy. if you speak turkish, you can get full coverage of that story at bbc turkish.com. in a few minutes we turn to a big story here in the uk. you may have seen the leaked version of the labour party's manifesto.
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well, it's been officially laurgeed byjeremy corbyn today. we'll be live in westminster to talk about that in a few minutes' time. can you get coverage of it through the bbc news website. as well as extensive coverage of the election campaign more generally. now, this is outside source. we're live in the bbc newsroom. let me talk you through our main stories. donald trump has been defending his decision to share some intelligence with the russian foreign minister. we'll turn back to that later on in the hour. in outside source sport we'll find out why maria sharapova will not be playing in the french open. i'll be back with you in a couple of moments. this is outside source. we're live in the bbc newsroom. our lead story is that donald trump has defended how he behaved in a meeting with sergey lavrov the russian foreign
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minister and defended any intelligence he may have shared with him. let's turn to the main stories from bbc world service. first of all, a deal‘s been agreed in ivory coast to end the revolt by the army. the government's agrowed that soldiers will receive more than $8,000 immediately with an extra payment by the end ofjune. the dispute about bonuses had been going on since friday. that's on bbc afrik. a report that a teenager has been killed at an antigovernment protest in venezuela. he was hit in the chest during clashes with police. opposition activists say another protester was also killed. dozens of arrests were made across the country ina day arrests were made across the country in a day of mass demonstrations. now, let's turn to the story that i was just now, let's turn to the story that i wasjust mentioning, the now, let's turn to the story that i was just mentioning, the opposition labour party in the uk had its ma nifesto lea ked labour party in the uk had its manifesto leaked last week. today was the official launch of manifesto and well, it matched up to some
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degree last week, but not entirely. let's hear from the labour degree last week, but not entirely. let's hearfrom the labour leader, jeremy corbyn. whatever your age or situation, people are under pressure, struggling make ends meet. our ma nifesto struggling make ends meet. our manifesto is for you. labour will scrap tuition fees, lifting the debt... applause labour is guaranteeing the triple lock to protect pensioners‘ incomes. and labour will take our railways back into public ownership and put passengers first. well, you can find the whole ma nifesto well, you can find the whole manifesto online if you‘d like to read it on the labour website. a number of big headline promises you heard there from jeremy corbyn. of course, they‘re going to cost money. here are some of labour‘s ways of funding those policies. it‘s planning an income tax rate that
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would be of 45 p on earnings above £80,000. it says once you earn over £123,000 you earn 50 p on each pound. there‘s an excessive pay levy on salaries over £330,000. let‘s go live to westminster. i guess, the policies get a lot of attention, but so policies get a lot of attention, but so do the questions about the funding. absolutely. there are some big spending commitments in this labour manifesto, huge promises to inject money into the nhs, into schools, into social care, to scrap university tuition fees. you know, this is big, ambitious promises to pump money into public services, increasing wages for public sector workers, so obviously the questions descend into where is this money coming from? labour‘s answer is that this is coming from higher taxes, people at the top, businesses, big business abouts, they want —— big
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businesses, they want them and those earning over £80,000 to pay a bit more. they think the tax rises will fully fund these promises. the policies of renationalising the railways, the water companies, royal mail, there was no costings there for how much that would actually cost. now their answers, jeremy corbyn‘s answers is that it depends on at what point these nationalisations happen. there are questions. as to the tax rises, there is a school of thought that suggests that if tax rates go up, people will change their behaviour, companies will change their behaviour and the tax revenue that labour is banking on will not actually materialise. but i think the answer that labour is giving to people who say this is so far fetched, the conservatives are saying, look the sums don‘t add up. labour‘s argument is that they are
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presenting a radically different proposition for the uk economy.” spotted this tweet earlier from tim shipman, the political editor of the sunday times, corbyn looked relaxed and composed. it helps when you‘re presenting things you believe. it is worth noting that for all the pressures onjeremy corbyn, he‘s delivered a set of policies here that are in his image. absolutely. you know, cast your mind back to when he came to power, completely unexpectedly. he found himself with the party leadership in his hands. he has stuck it out, despite a lot of atte m pts he has stuck it out, despite a lot of attempts to unseat him. and a lot of attempts to unseat him. and a lot of criticism of his leadership, he has stuck it out. here is a ma nifesto has stuck it out. here is a manifesto with jeremy corbyn‘s has stuck it out. here is a manifesto withjeremy corbyn‘s name on it. it is completely authentic as you say. it‘s policies that he has believed in, has campaigned on for many years. and this is what he wa nts to many years. and this is what he wants to present as his vision for the country. he‘s reshaped the labour party in his vision and now this is his offering to the country. so yes, i think it‘s absolutely right to say he is relaxed. he is
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the most relaxed we‘ve seen him in a long time on the campaign trail. it suits him to be out among supporters. when he is out presenting his ideas, policies, he is very well received, because he is speaking to his backers. you know, these are party activists. these are people who support him. his challenge is to broaden out now beyond his support base and he thinks the policies are very popular and broadly, a lot of them are. but theissueis and broadly, a lot of them are. but the issue is whether he has the credibility, certainly the conservatives are making their campaign aboutjeremy corbyn personally, his credibility, whether labour can be trusted on the economy. his challenge to say, look, he‘s trying to make this campaign about policy and his challenge to get the message out beyond his support base and appeal to those voters with just about three weeks to go. thank you for taking us through that. now next, i want to turn to a couple of stories about two different governments restricting social media. ina governments restricting social
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media. in a moment we‘ll talk about ukraine. first, let‘s talk about thailand. the thai authorities gave facebook a deadline of 10am local time to block over 100 pages from being seen in thailand. the reason was these pages were deemed to have violated thailand‘s strict laws which forbid insults to the royal family. if you don‘t comply with those rules, facebook could be banned. interestingly the authorities appear to have backed down. here‘s our correspondent in baghdad saying, there hasn‘t been a block on facebook yet. in terms of the practicalities how can the courts keep up with all the new anti—monarchy facebook posts? we shall see about that. here‘s the bbc thai service updating us. what happened today was the authority couldn‘t obtain the orders on time, therefore they cannot send it to facebook. what happened today is facebook. what happened today is facebook is still operating in thailand, there‘s no block in thailand. so far, thai authorities say that they are satisfied with
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facebook because when they request the content blocked, it‘s done in 24 hours. we need to see what‘s going to happen next, as the authorities have said they will be able to send the court orders and hope that they will block those who violate the law. for this law, anyone who defame or insult the royal families can be punished and face up to 15 years in jail. thai authorities trying to prevent people from seeing any content that seems to violate the law. as you might remember last month, the authorities warned people not to share online content on facebook or critics who live abroad. those critics often post content that violates the law. now to ukraine. the president there has ordered internet provide irto block a number of popular russian social networks. apparently without irony,
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the president used his own page on one of the blocked sites, to explain his decision. he says, "the challenges of hybrid war demand adequate responses. massive russian cyber attacks across the world, particularly in the french elections, which the russians deny by the way, show it‘s time to act differently and more decisively. a number of large russian sites have been affected. the kremlin spokesperson is unimpressed. "it‘s another manifestation of unfriendly, short sighted policy towards russia." let‘s hearfrom our correspondent to get more on this. all those services, especially of the russian speaking analogue of facebook, they are widely used by people in ukraine. it has 16 million users. all together, although services have 25 million users in ukraine, which is huge. and they‘re used by people at different levels
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to communicate, basically to communicate. i also know from my personal experience that, for example, if it was used by military people on both sides, you know, on frontline in eastern ukrainejust to conduct some negotiations, when normal, formal procedures didn‘t work. contacta helped them to communicate and agrow on some minor ceasefire or on some minor exchanges. it was really important for ordinary people to communicate. but it seems that soon those services will be banned. it‘s actually unclear when the ban will start officially. we guess it will be tomorrow, but we‘re not sure. it's be tomorrow, but we‘re not sure. it‘s interesting that company owners are mostly russian. they said that the ban wouldn‘t affect their benefits and would only affect the users, most in ukraine, but also in russia, of course, because they were communicating with their relatives orjust communicating with their relatives or just people communicating with their relatives orjust people they know in ukraine. so that‘s all the news for the moment. it seems that definitely
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this news, this ban will be discussed for a while both on russian and ukrainian side of the border. both in real life and on the internet. us media is reported that ford is planning to cut 10% of its global workforce. samira is live in new york. are we sure it‘s going to happen? well, we're not sure. the company hasn‘t confirmed anything. all the company has said in response to these reports was that while we‘re committed to really optimising profits. when we‘re talking about 10% of their workforce, we‘re talking about 20,000 people. that‘s happening throughout north america and in asia. now what‘s important is that this is going to impact the salaried workforce. from that we can interpret it‘s not really the manufacturers 3s interpret it‘s not really the manufacturers as people who are working on assembly lines. we‘re talking about middle managers. this is really happening because the company is under pressure to try and boost profits in an era in which car
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sales are down and trying to lift the share price for the company. ford‘s share price has fallen by more than 30%. so it‘s really quite significant. i've got to leave it there. perhaps we can pick that story up again. that‘s it for the first half of the programme. in the second half of the programme, we‘ll have outside source sport. we‘ll look at the tennis,. . maria sharapova isn‘t going to the french open. and astonishing wind surfing on snow to show you in about 15 minutes. good evening. heavy rain and thunder storms are features of the weather forecast here in the uk for the next 24 hours. we are not alone. there are quite vicious storms raging around the world, not least in the united states. a fairly typical set up united states. a fairly typical set upfor united states. a fairly typical set up for this time of year actually
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warm airto the up for this time of year actually warm air to the south, cold air to the north, where the two collide, this clash of air mass provides the perfect breeding ground for showers and thunder storms from the rockies, through the northern plains, to the great lakes and further south parts of texas and oklahoma. areas where we expect heavy down pours, thunder storms and tornadoes at this time of year, that‘s storms and tornadoes at this time of yea r, that‘s exactly storms and tornadoes at this time of year, that‘s exactly what we‘re going to see over the next few days. things improving further west in san francisco. temperatures on the rise. across the rocky mountains cold enough for late season snow. further east, new york city can get hot and humid at this time of year. that‘s exactly what‘s going to happen. 31 degrees with sunshine on thursday. now to central america. a lot of dry weather here. but in the heart of caribbean, cuba, jamaica, haiti and the dominican republic, a lot of rain to come. that falling in a short space of time, with a lot of
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lightning and thunder. possibly problems with flooding and land slides. it is an increasingly wet time of year across the caribbean. rains that affected south america begin to trundle their way northwards as we go through the next couple of months. but those rains have left some significant problems, as i‘m sure you will have heard, if you have followed our world forecasts. parts of colombia have seen forecasts. parts of colombia have seen significant flooding. there‘s more rain in the forecast across colombia, also ecuador and peru. heavy down pars breaking out further south as well, for argentina, parts of uruguay and into the south of brazil. closer to home, of uruguay and into the south of brazil. closerto home, in of uruguay and into the south of brazil. closer to home, in europe, it‘s a common spring feature to see thunder storms here as well. that‘s exactly what we‘re going to get. warm air across many central and south—western parts of the continent being eroded by cold airfrom south—western parts of the continent being eroded by cold air from the north—west bringing down pours across northern spain, portugalfor across northern spain, portugalfor a time and through france, the low
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countries, germany, scandinavia. if you have flights booked in that direction, there could be some flight direction, there could be some flight delays and travel problems. further east, it‘s largely plain sailing with sunshine. further west, once the showers and thunder storms pass through, temperatures will dip away. so heat in madrid really easing as we head towards the end of the week. some of those showers and thunder storms, as i said at the start, are likely to affect parts of the uk. some areas, particularly towards the south—east, seeing a lot of rain over the next day or so. but what happens next? find out in half an hour. i‘m ros atkins with outside source. these are the main stories... the us national security adviser has again defended donald trump‘s handling of classified information. what the president discussed with the foreign minister was wholly appropriate that conversation, and is consistent with the routine sharing of information between the president and any leaders with whom he is engaged.
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