tv Nicks Election Takeaways BBC News May 20, 2017 2:30pm-3:01pm BST
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we have come up with balarry, which is what we want to call it. it's derived from the latin word for bubbles. we thought about the welsh version, which was swigot, but i do think that quite had the ring to it. "would you like a glass of swigot?" italians have prosecco, the spanish cava, and germans, sekt. what is the english equivalent? perhaps we should call at winchcombe. time for the weather now. i have heard a rumour that it is raining out there. it is, a lovely start to the day in the south—east but shallow clouds are gathering as in the rest of england. the west has been dry so
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far. the odd rumble of thunder. further west things will turn greater. fewer showers around with a bit more sunshine. rather cool across northern scotland where you have the persistent rain. the rain in the north will ease, a few showers into the night was going to sunday morning on a dry note. cooler last night, could get down to three oi’ii last night, could get down to three or 4 degrees. a bright start to sunday. the cloud will thicken quickly in northern ireland. the rain will spread into western scotland. isolated showers. the vast majority have a dry sunday afternoon. goodbye for no. —— for now. hello. this is bbc news. the headlines. the us president flies to saudi arabia but as he leaves there's another twist
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in the controversial sacking of fbi chiefjames comey. jeremy corbyn insists his party is committed to trident after members of the shadow cabinet publicly disagree over the issue. the tories defend their pledge to cut net migration to "tens of thousands" after it comes under fire from former and here comes the bride — the duchess of cambridge‘s sister, pippa, marries in berkshire. a second referendum on the eu. a chance to give a verdict on any brexit deal. that was the headline promise made by the liberal democrats. the party's aim is to woo a significant chunk of the 48% who voted remain in the brexit referendum but there are few signs — so far at least — that that strategy is working. in the run up to polling day, the bbc‘s nick robinson will be talking to voters to find some answers. this week, he visited the tory
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marginal of bedford for a chat in the latest election takeaway. in this election campaign i'm speaking to several groups of voters about how they are making up their mind. today i will be talking to people who voted remain. how will that choice affect the choices they have to make now? we have come to bedford, a tory held seat which is marginal. the people we are speaking to have been selected for us by the pollsters ipsos mori. of course no small group can tell us how this place will vote, let alone the country as a whole but it can flesh out those findings you find in the opinion polls and on tv. let us go inside to the corn exchange where jim davidson and ken dodd have played for the latest of nick's election takeaways. today's takeaway,
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a nice bit of thai food. let me ask you all first, what do you think of the issues that are important just know? in bedford, what are the important issues for you? it is a very multicultural society. a place that i have lived for 18 years with a very diverse background. children here from a diverse background. and actually been a very pleasant place to live and educate children who are now going back into london. creating their lives and careers. recent times have made one question how you feel about it and how you feel about the general population, how they are feeling, in a way i have never thought before. i meanjust the recent last year has made me feel
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differently about bedford and about britain. i will come onto that because i think i know what you mean. bedford first of all, what do people think in general? i think at the moment the hospital situation. i think it is important to me, my husband has a heart condition. having no services available, thinking about having a family in the future. the potential of a&e shutting, maternity services not being there anymore, it is quite frightening to think we might have to go afield for things which we have been able to access course for such a long time. for me it is the nhs also. accident and emergency being degraded. it worries us, the fact that services are going. what will happen in the future?
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i want to be able to get all the services i have in future. if they are degraded, will they be far off? that is a big worrying point from my perspective in bedford. poverty. i would say poverty has increased. there is a lot of homelessness. a lot of people are accessing the foodbank. i asked how much food they give every month, over six tonnes and bedford is a small town. cuts in services, nhs and statutory services, from the council, all statutory services. especially for vulnerable families. people who are in a low income. i cannot think outside bedford because i am always dealing with people in bedford who are facing problems
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ona day—to—day basis which is affecting their way of living. it is getting worse each day. has anyone else had any experience with the nhs where they think, i cannot hope? my son has a friend who are a couple of friends who are working in the local hospital, a greek doctor has been a year for a year. my son fractured his arm. they took him to the accident and emergency, the greek doctor was so shocked that this lady was bleeding next to my son who is 17 or 18 with a fracture. they sat there for several hours, a lady who could been homeless was covered in blood. he said, as bad as things are in greece, such a thing could not happen. someone who needed such care would not be allowed to sit there the midst of everyone.
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is that the big issue nationally or other other issues nationally? brexit is one of the issues. we should have a good deal in place after leaving the european union. of course nhs is one of the big issues but if we do not get a good deal, it affects our economy. this means we cannot fund the nhs so the most important issue at this moment for me is getting a good brexit deal. getting the right deal. yes? it is very important for me as well because myjob depends on it. if our company cannot make it work, we have to think about what we have to do to make it work. why did yourjob depend on it? it could put obstacles in the way for example or they could affect our
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production factory in italy. we essentially buy from our production site and bring it to the uk. so for you the way is if there will be taxes. it will be harder for us to make a profit and it will be a strain on us as a company. anybody us find brexit as an issue? for me it is the biggest issue in this election. for me we need the strongest campaigner. you need the strongest campaigner to get out? to be involved in the brexit process and get the best deal for us. how did you vote? i voted to remain. so you are looking for someone who still wants us to remain? negotiator or a good listener? that is right. someone to get the best possible outcome.
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get the best deal. although i voted remain, the situation where we are leaving so we need the best we can get now. for me at least, it is done. we are moving ahead with it. how did you vote? i voted remain. you voted remain. i voted remain. can i let you into a secret? you all voted remain, that is why we asked you to come yet. we are interested to know about people who voted remain. it is not chance. how do you feel at present? depressed. i feel somewhat sad about it but it is the next generation who are deeply... my daughter graduated on the day before they went to vote. she had a very bad feeling it would go in that direction. she was absolutely devastated, all three of them.
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i was certainly shocked because it's notjust for us now, it is for our children's future, when they want to travel around europe and get a job outside the uk, how will it affect them? how did you feel? in my work, because i am 26, i work with a lot of older people. what you do? i work in an estate agent, i am a secretary. being young, compared to them, i've felt that their decision was made for me. i am not as young... you think they made the decision? yes, they made this decision for me. things that will not necessarily impact on them will impact me and my children. so it was frustrating. there was all this bravado, if we leave now it will be better.
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i was like, it will not affect you. i voted remain not for the economy at all but because i had a fear of the increase of hate crime. that was my only reason why. not for the economy but i was scared that if we voted out, it gives a platform because of the campaigning, it would give a platform for people to incite hatred and xenophobia. and no it has happened? now we are dealing with a lot of hate crime. really, in bedford? yes, there is an increase. i was right to be frightened and i will still be frightened. that fear will still be frightened. that fear will not go for a long time because
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we can see it happening all around us. we can see it happening all around us. lots of people who you are this will see we have not changed as a country just because will see we have not changed as a countryjust because we voted in a way you do not like. we have to deal with it and that is why the government has to try and protect and safeguard these people, the communities that are being attacked. i spoke to people in this town who are, i would say not necessarily politically minded who within 2a hours said they did not know why they voted. they voted leave. these are fairly nice people who within a day were saying, they did not really know but voted leave. when you started asking them questions, they had not thought of so many of the aspects of what that really meant. i feel also the campaign was led by, the way the campaign was led, appealed to certain baser instincts in some and in others, they were left naively not knowing what was going on. think of now rather than then,
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we're going to get on with it now, is that the case? that is like a fire in your house saying, it is going now. you still think the fire could be put out? that is a lot of hubris around this. the way that the government and the people who are leading the government literally fell away the moment it was voted in. they just disappeared. you don't think that? asi disappeared. you don't think that? as i say, i like to get with it. we wa nt as i say, i like to get with it. we want someone who will get the best deal after brexit. we want either of them who will give us the best possible opportunities in the future with the deal which is beneficial to all. you say the two of them, you do
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not have to vote labour or tory. there are other parties. let us do it again. would you voted labour?|j don't it again. would you voted labour?” don't think that is necessary, just get on with it. i also said maybe there should be people potentially getting more of the see because we are voting in the general election but we will still be voting on something we have not had an opportunity to have a say on. so it might bea opportunity to have a say on. so it might be a great deal but we will not know until it happens. you are i remain as well what is your view, ta ke remain as well what is your view, take a get on with it? if the country is to vote for a party which decided to have another referendum, the outcome might... we would get to the outcome might... we would get to the point where the government might say, we like this answer so we will
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get on with it then. for referendums. you are not convinced. it is almost like, he goes up to someone says give us it is almost like, he goes up to someone says give us 250 grand for the house. what is it like? you will find out. but what is that like, i may not like it. just trust us, you will be fine. that is what the readers have done effectively? know, what it seems to me, particularly theresa may has said, strong and sta ble theresa may has said, strong and stable leadership and i am the best person to negotiate. you will not get as seasonal, you would just get it. it might be it turns out there are it. it might be it turns out there a re lots of it. it might be it turns out there are lots of political machinations and we do get the best deal but it seems a strange thing you could say
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to theresa may but what was a good deal look like? no one knows.“ to theresa may but what was a good deal look like? no one knows. if you wa nted deal look like? no one knows. if you wanted to say, give it another go, who are you tempted by? is there any mp saying the things you want a year? i am very cynical about politicians. i have not heard anything. i feel we were set up. are you not hearing anyone say have another referendum ? you not hearing anyone say have another referendum? hearing how theresa may has got into her discussions with europe, generally i think the british perspective is very... i travel a lot, think the british perspective is very... itravel a lot, i think the british perspective is very... i travel a lot, i go to europe weekly, and the europeans are not feeling... they are feeling quite upset and angry, they do not like the porsche leading up to brexit. —— the posturing. they feel
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quite anti—. brexit. —— the posturing. they feel quite anti-. you do not like theresa may's tone. no one on the opposition benches? you have the greens, the labour —— the liberal democrats? benches? you have the greens, the labour -- the liberal democrats? the chances are very unlikely they will get in. i think i agree. i chances are very unlikely they will get in. i thinki agree. i cannot see anyone in the tory frontbencher can negotiate their way out of a paper bag. it is really sad because if you discount theresa may, jeremy corbyn, i don't think so. then it goes round. i agree with you, i am getting on, it is really quite depressing. you think there is no standout person. they say theresa may is strong and stable leadership but she was in charge of the home office for six years and we did not see a lot of that going on. my issue
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is, ithink see a lot of that going on. my issue is, i think bedford, the tories got in witha is, i think bedford, the tories got in with a 1200 majority no, it is not a safe seat. if that is a national movement to vote tactically, you are not going to vote for the liberal democrats because unless that is some sort of turnover, they will not getting so if you vote tactically, perhaps you will vote for labour but they are going with brexit as well so it is difficult. what about the greens, to make a statement? but your statement would be like a stone dropped in a pond, no one would see it, it would be gone, it would be frustrating. it is first past the post so if you do not agree with the government, the only thing to do is vote labour.m you came into the room though, and saidi you came into the room though, and said i am tim farron, i am the new leader, i will say, said i am tim farron, i am the new leader, iwill say, do said i am tim farron, i am the new leader, i will say, do not disappear you remainers, we can still do it,
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ina you remainers, we can still do it, in a couple of years' time things will look different. what would you say to him? this is always a waste of time, money and energy.” say to him? this is always a waste of time, money and energy. i agree, it isa of time, money and energy. i agree, it is a waste of time. we should just get on with it. it will create more division. it might create more division within society so it is done and i think the majority of us who voted remain have accepted it and just want to get on with it now. does anyone thinkjeremy corbyn would be a better person for negotiations? definitely not. he is a person who really cares about the economy because he has the interest of the workers at heart and that is what the economy is based on, that is what i personally think. i am basing it on what i have seen in bedford with the lack ofjobs over
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the years and the cutting of services. i want somebody else to have another chance and see if they can make this go forward. you thoughtjeremy can make this go forward. you thought jeremy corbyn would can make this go forward. you thoughtjeremy corbyn would do well? i think his style of talking to people, on a personal level, ithink he talks to people with a little more engagement rather than talking over people as though he will tell people what is going to happen.” saw your eyebrows go up.” people what is going to happen.” saw your eyebrows go up. i am really sorry, germany, he will probably be really good if he ever got the chance but this is a chap who put a three line whip in for people to pass the brexit bill or whatever it was called. there was —— this was a man who never lobbied the government whip when labour were npower, never. he might be a good negotiator but he
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has not got any principles. —— when labour were npower. jeremy corbyn, maria said, you're saying his empathetic? he can build a relationship? when i see him on the television, i turnover. relationship? when i see him on the television, iturnover. it is relationship? when i see him on the television, i turnover. it is the truth. why? he just irritates me and he is one that bugs me. is that because you are tory?” he is one that bugs me. is that because you are tory? i don't know if it is about that. i have watched other and labour leaders, i think it isjust him personally. give me a few qualities, show total words. let us few qualities, show total words. let us do theresa may first. what words do you associate with her? tough. strong. xenophobic. that is what
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comes over as. yes? come back to me. i think she is a businesswoman and cheesy to make the best of the bad situation. —— and she is here. donald trump's businesswoman.” think a lot of people are worries, not to bring up american politics, but people are worried it is going to call the we, with the coming election they will vote for the lesser of two evils. do you think they might do that now?” lesser of two evils. do you think they might do that now? i think people are worried go that way. she is like a second mrs thatcher. you do not mean that in a good way? no, she is a very strong person. in a good way? no. you are thinking of
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voting labour? i have not decided yet, it is based on next week.” voting labour? i have not decided yet, it is based on next week. i am intrigued, you might vote for the second mrs thatcher or you might vote forjeremy corbyn, your words. i have always voted labour. nowadays because it is so much information, so much social media, the way we saw politics is so different to two elections before. people are thinking about how they voted. before it was something they inherited from their appearance. you used to vote for a party but no, it is not like that. i do not see that. what about words that describe jeremy corbyn? irritating. irritating. and you are voting for the greens. ijust do not trust him.
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i think he is fatally idealistic. you will not vote for him or leave? as you said, the american election was between the least worst candidate and it is such a shame that in this country, it is almost like we are talking about who is the worst —— like we are talking about who is the worst — — least like we are talking about who is the worst —— least worst candidate. like we are talking about who is the worst -- least worst candidate. you may still vote labour? possibly. you are not sure. you? come back to me. is that any other issue, you know what, we have had a referendum but this issue is much more important to me? for me it is the schools my children go to and the pressure the teachers are under is incredible. anybody else? locally services, everything locally, welfare, elderly, cuts in youth services.
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everything that you need to live on a day—to—day basis. everything that you need to live on a day-to-day basis. what about health? is the health service so important? yes. is it more than brexit for you? the health service will not function if you do not have a stronger economy. i think they come part and parcel. definitely. like the schooling system, the nhs is and is a lot more strain, we are living longer. initial planning for the nhs was not to let people to live to 104. thank you everyone. that is it from us in bedford. we will have the chance to finish off our takeaway know and we will be back next week talking to people that the prime minister has called the just about managing, who will be decide to vote for? —— will they
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decide. —— will they decide. good afternoon. if you got away with a dry saturday so far, you have done well, plenty of showers around. maybe take you to the radar chart to show you what is happening. across the north of uk, rain is persistent across scotland. a few showers in northern ireland, drying up in the north—west of england. it has been dry for north—west of england. it has been dryfora north—west of england. it has been dry for a good part of the day in the east of england and we can see some of their heaviest downpours here later on. further west, you can see the blue colours are becoming fewer. fewer showers around, see the blue colours are becoming fewer. fewershowers around, much more dry and sunny weather for the evening. parts of devon, cornwall and wales there will be some rain returning later on. as you showers and parts of the midlands this
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evening. across the east of england, some mist and showers with the odd rumble of thunder. some showers and northern ireland, heavy downpours and southern scotland. some of their heaviest weather around perth and kinross, fife and aberdeenshire. wetter further north. the kinross, fife and aberdeenshire. wetterfurther north. the rain kinross, fife and aberdeenshire. wetter further north. the rain eases off later on, a few showers later on. most regions becoming dry overnight, colder than my site and parts of scotland in particular. three or 4 degrees in the countryside. it will be a bright start to sunday morning, a more promising day. we lose the early—morning promising day. we lose the ea rly—morning brightness and northern ireland, a cloudy spell. patchy rain and drizzle which spreads into western scotland. a few more showers and eastern scotland, northern wales and ireland. the real story will be a warmer day, up to 21 celsius in the south—east. a fine
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evening, into monday another spell of rain pushing across northern ireland and western scotland and maybe parts of northern england by the afternoon. the further east you are, the dry it will be and it will be warmer. temperatures widely in england and wales above 20 degrees. that sets us up for a warmer week. high pressure building. weather coming in from the atlantic. the odd spot of light rain across coastal regions. compared with the week that has just regions. compared with the week that hasjust gone, it regions. compared with the week that has just gone, it will be a lot drier in terms of the forecast and it will feel warmer as well with temperatures reaching the 20s, some reaching the mid—20s. that is how it looks. this is bbc news.
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the headlines at 3:00pm. a grand welcome for donald trump in saudi arabia — where the us president is making his first foreign trip. he was greeted by king salman at riyadh airport. mr trump is leaving behind fresh controversy in washington. there are claims he said firing the fbi chiefjames comey, relieved him of "great pressure". jeremy corbyn insists his party is committed to trident after members of the shadow cabinet publicly disagree over the issue. the tories defend their pledge to cut net migration to "tens of thousands" after it comes under fire from former chancellor george osborne. hassan rouhani is re—elected as iranian president, defeating his conservative rival by a comfortable margin.
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