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boadicea leading us into these brexit talks. jolyon a plate, according to the metro? -- jelly on according to the metro? -- jelly on a plate. brexit more than anything else was about politicians not listening. for decades they wouldn't listening. for decades they wouldn't listen to what the public was saying about emigration and power is going to brussels. we do have a prominence to brussels. we do have a prominence to now who clearly has listened. —— we do have a prime minister. the reaction of particularly tory leaning voters on the doorstep was very negative to this, and she has listened. the thing about the u—turn bit, that element of the policy that is new today actually takes us straight back to david cameron's policy and what was the goverment‘s policy and what was the goverment‘s policy until a week ago, that there should be a cap. it's not as if she has plucked an idea out of nowhere. that used to be a tory party policy, i thought about it further and we will go back to it. paul, it was clear what tory cause was under david cameron last week. in fact, quadri days ago —— what tory policy
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was. she decided to pass it out and now she has brought it back in again. i was looking forward to see how tim would spin his way out of that one! this is a complete shambles. the first time in history that a manifesto promise has been broken even before the election. it's just been a day of complete confusion. you've had a very angry prime minister, ministers running away from bbc tv cameras shown on screen. you had anger, blame gaming, you've had finger—pointing, the whole thing. it is a meltdown. it's being called meltdown monday. this is not a rational act, it was forced upon theresa may on the government. tim, come on, the front page of the telegraph, chaos. the fact is, there we re telegraph, chaos. the fact is, there were people within her own party, people within the cabinet to thought it was a bad idea. is she just not listening to anyone? it was a bad idea. is she just not listening to anyone ?|j it was a bad idea. is she just not listening to anyone? i do think one of the lesson that has come out of this is that we know, this is true with tony blair and probably with david cameron, he had a very sort of
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gilded circle, it does seem that prime ministers of all parties are to you eager tojust prime ministers of all parties are to you eager to just listen to a very few voices and they tend to govern much better when they listen toa govern much better when they listen to a wider cabinet and consult a bit more. that is probably a lesson that needed to be learned by mrs may, as it was learned by her predecessor. i suspect after this, she will... one thing that is good about her is that she does listen. she campaigned for a mane and now she is carrying through lees, but she listened,. i don't think she will make this mistake again. they get up this morning and say, prime minister, we've got to get rid of this, how do we've got to get rid of this, how do we get rid of the policy? what we do, prime minister, we ditched the policy, how do we explain that? we say that nothing has changed. but who do we blame? we can't blame cabinet ministers or the head of policy at downing street, they had nothing to do with it. we will blame
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jeremy corbyn! how do we do that? say it is fake news, that is how we get out of it. by the way, you have a halfan get out of it. by the way, you have a half an hour slot in your diary this afternoon to explain all of this afternoon to explain all of this to andrew neil! i bet that went down well! it is a difficult day. is ita down well! it is a difficult day. is it a mortal wound? down well! it is a difficult day. is it a mortalwound? no, the reality is we are going to come on later to the story about opinion polls. it is important but all of this in context. she remains further ahead evenin context. she remains further ahead even in the worst opinion polls that we re even in the worst opinion polls that were above is a work published over the weekend than margaret thatcher was before her general election landslide, more than tony blair was in his worst poll before the 1997 landslide. the reality is, most general elections over the last 30 01’ general elections over the last 30 or a0 years, general elections over the last 30 or40 years, in general elections over the last 30 or a0 years, in fact, every general election, you have had the result in the end that you did in the middle. we get very excited about these things, but most rotors have made up their minds already. they decided that they prefer mrs may to mr
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corbyn. this hasn't been a great day for her but it won't change anything. left-leaning press, paul, playing this. your front page anything. left-leaning press, paul, playing this. yourfront page in anything. left-leaning press, paul, playing this. your front page in the guardian is doing so, the daily mirror as well. how can we ever trust mrs u—turn? not the most flattering picture of the prime minister. pm flip—flops again. the fa ct minister. pm flip—flops again. the fact is, she still is, according to the polls, we ahead of the labour party. this has been a good day for them. —— we ahead. we seeing an element of hubris here on behalf of the prime minister, because she was so the prime minister, because she was so farahead, we the prime minister, because she was so far ahead, we have the changes to getting rid of free school lunches we have means testing winter fuel payment, winter fuel allowance is. and we've now got this u—turn as a result of the belief that she could potentially scare her core vote. yes, it is quite extraordinary. you could characterise this as callous
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01’ as could characterise this as callous or as complacent, you could characterise it as a trust issue. you could characterise it as the right thing to do! there is no doubt she did the right thing by introducing the future of social ca re into introducing the future of social care into the rational conversation, there's no doubt something has to be done about intergenerational wealth. but to do it in this way was very, very or indeed. to say to a big ball of the country, to say to a big pull of the country, to say to a big pull of your constituency —— you're going to have to pay, i'll tell you how much after the election. to have to pay, i'll tell you how much after the electionlj understand why tories like me or upset with the idea of undermining the principle of inheritance. what i genuinely don't understand is how socialists like john mcdonnell or jeremy corbyn can say, we're going to fight for the right of multimillionaires in the south of england to hand over the entire value of their homes. we're going to fight to make sure that multimillionaires keep the winter fuel allowance is. why is the left saying, we are keeping every privilege for the rich? i thought jeremy corbyn's allowance is that
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the system is rigged for the rich. it's mad! i think we are in argument about whether the rights or wrongs... the triple lock. the conservative sums don't add up. in the andrew neil grilling we saw, tell us about taxes. i can't give you any promises. tell us about the nhs and the extra £8 billion. i can't tell you where it is coming from or whether it is new money or not. there two default position is that the primers has. number one is evasion, number two is blame corbyn. the most important sadistic she out with in that interview was she said, in the next ten years there will be 2 million more people over the age of 75 needing care. we can't expect people in work to pay higher taxes because the tax burden is the highest it has been for 30 years. we can't borrow it because our or ring is far too high. where do we get it? at least the tories have some ideas about. labour is the magic money tree and a free unicorn for
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everyone! if we had got to the don lock cap, it could have been costed. —— the andrew dilnot cap. ministers yesterday was on... gentlemen, please! i need a whistle or something! we are back to the cap, but we don't know what the cap is, the interesting debate, no limit has been set by the conservatives so far. paul, interesting, this poll. this is the huffington post suggesting that in wales labour are racing ahead with welsh voters stop your yes, this is curious, this poll. they are talking about an extraordinary 16 points swing to jeremy corbyn‘s favour in wales. now, we've been here before with swings. we've been here before with poles. we are quite a way out from polling day. these figures are
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dou btless polling day. these figures are doubtless moving around, but they are only moving in one way. the tory vote is staying basically steady, or so vote is staying basically steady, or so it seems. labour seems to be inching up. and the other parties seem inching up. and the other parties seem to be involved in a third—place play—off. seem to be involved in a third—place play-off. polls arejust seem to be involved in a third—place play-off. polls are just polls, that's it. lets not forget, the polls called the referendum wrong, they called trump from, they called they called trump from, they called the last general election wrong, i wouldn't get too excited. i know you are looking forward to the great socialist republic, but it ain't going to happen. you were talking only about how far ahead theresa may was in the polls. if she is as far ahead as mrs thatcher was, it she didn't do very well either. let's move on to the financial times, trump at the wall. i hope we can get this picture on screen. can you imagine from tweeting this out to say, number one he is made stopping a flood by holding back the waters! —— here is me. numbertwo, itold
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you i would build a wall! it is significant, though. it is significant, though. it is significant and very interesting, the significance has been underwhelmed, it has got into difficulties. because trump, his approach to secrecy has been encapsulated in this visit. in a trip to talk to the russians he talks about secret intelligence being passed on from syria. he then gets other people to deny it. he then confirms it himself, and today he says in public, oh, but i'm never mentioned israel, it wasn't me, honest. it's! it was an incredible clanger. one issue of substance. at the weekend he was in saudi arabia, he spoke at a conference of a0 islamic countries, all of whom are delighted that under him us foreign policy is going back to its traditional stance of backing the saudi view of the middle east rather than the iranian view of the middle east. although that will be unpopular with some, he is amazingly popular in the gulf states, because
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they feel that america is back being theirfriend against. they feel that america is back being their friend against. the times, a p pa re ntly their friend against. the times, apparently storms and tea on not going to be part of the break between cricket matches as people thought they would. when i saw this oi'i thought they would. when i saw this on page three i wondered why it wasn't on the front page! and act like this ripping apart the very fabric of society, this has got to be another thing that jeremy corbyn has come up with! but it isn't. there is a reason it is the bottom of page three, it is talking about doing away with cucumber sam wood is, but it comes from tony oxley of fear of cricket club. —— cucumber sandwiches. —— fare roque cricket club. if it was the test matches, it would be the most important story of the day. i wonder why the theresa may to boggle is not on the front of the daily mail. —— de bock all. that's it for the papers tonight.
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don't forget, you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you, seven days a week, at bbc.co.uk/papers. and if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you, paul and tim. goodbye. good evening. more sunshine this week and rising temperatures as well. mind you, it was pretty warm today in the sunshine. this was also a street in shropshire, just on the edge of the cloud, sunny skies in the south. in the south—east we saw temperatures of 25 degrees. we have had more cloud across the north of the uk, and particularly in scotland, that cloud has been bringing with it outbreaks of ring, heavier showers. —— outbreaks of rain. that is pushing towards the northern isles. clear skies following behind for many of us, but low cloud is sitting in the south—west that will feed its way
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overnight into wales and the south—west, beginning to poke its way through the channel. where we have the clearest guys, especially in scotland in the countryside it could be chilly in the morning but warming up in the sunshine. there may not be a great deal of that to begin the day across mid and south wales, the south—west of england, misty weather, health, a few spots of drizzle, the channel islands seemed cloud. cloud pushing its way in across the midlands. northern england, northern ireland and scotla nd england, northern ireland and scotland generally dry. temperatures rising quickly in the sunshine. starting the day with some cloud and rain of towards shevlin, slowly clearing away. for most of us, a decent date —— towards shetland. a cloudier, cooler day. the south—west and the south coast, not as much an shine as we had today in the south—east of england —— not as much sunshine. not as warm as today. for the most part, temperatures into the high teens, no 20s. maybe one or two
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showers in the north—west of scotland. rain and drizzle possible, otherwise it is a dry story. we will. with some more cloud, especially in the west, tending to break in the eastern parts of the uk —— we will start with some more cloud. high pressure building in across the north—west of the uk, staying with us from a few days. as it drifts towards the east so we start to draw in dry and warm air from the near continent. towards the end of the week we are staying dry, probably more sunshine, helping to lift the temperatures and a change in the wind direction, getting our airfrom the near in the wind direction, getting our air from the near continent. in the wind direction, getting our airfrom the near continent. by saturday, temperatures could pick 13 degrees. —— 30 degrees. this is bbc news. i'm clive myrie. the headlines at 11:00: theresa may has denied performing a u—turn over a manifesto pledge on social care. she says she will consider capping the amount people would have to pay in old age. nothing has changed.
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we are offering a long—term solution for the sustainability of social care for the future. labour and the liberal democrats said the conservatives' social care policy was "in meltdown". they haven't said what the cap is, they haven't explained to the millions of people who are desperately worried about the sort of care they're going to get in the future... this is a government in chaos and confusion. president trump has spoken of his hope for a peace deal between israel and the palestinians after saying a prayer at the holiest site in judaism, the western wall injerusalem.
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