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take for or five days. likely to take for or five days. then we will be able to formally name of the victims. i would like to confirm that we have spoken to all of the families of those that in our hospitals and we are doing all we can to support all of them, too. you will be aware that the level of activity in this investigation is intense and is continuing at a fast pace. we have made three further arrests in connection with attacks overnight and this afternoon we entered an address in manchester city centre using a controlled explosion. officers are currently at the scene searching that address but in order to execute that entry we did have to close a mainline railway line for a short period, but this now has reopened as we continued the researchers. that brings the total number of people in custody to four. people gci’oss people in custody to four. people across greater manchester will have
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seen across greater manchester will have seen a across greater manchester will have seen a significant increase in the number of armed officers on mobile patrol and at static points across the city. we have been supported by forces from across the north—west and beyond and this forms part of oui’ and beyond and this forms part of our well tried and tested plans for any major terrorist attack. obviously with the announcement from the prime minister last night of the increase in the threat level to critical, you will be aware that the military are supporting policing gci’oss military are supporting policing across the country under the codename operation temperer. this is about the military being used to guard iconic sites and other sites outside of london and across parts of the north. this frees up armed police officers to then give the police service capacity to deploy them to places like manchester as pa rt them to places like manchester as part of our plans for keeping the country part of our plans for keeping the cou ntry safe. part of our plans for keeping the country safe. what i would confirm is that there are no military personnel patrolling the streets of
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greater manchester nor are there any plans for that to happen at this time. the armed police that is now available throughout the west of the country is being used to supplement my armed officers here in manchester and in particular, is enabling us to work to make sure that the planned manchester games and the 10 k run go ahead this weekend. we obviously had significant plans in place with event organisers at manchester city council around those annual events. we are reviewing the plans with organisers and with the city council in light of this week's attack to make sure that we can allow them to go ahead in a safe environment as possible. so i am happy to take a couple of questions at this point. have you found the bomb factory? as i've said we are carrying out extensive searches of premises across manchester, but it would be ill—advised for me to comment on the investigation in that detail. reporter: are you searching for a
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bomb maker? i think it's very clear that this is a network that we are investigating and as i've said it continues at a pace. there is extensive investigations going on and activity taking place across greater manchester as we speak. so thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. so chaffs chief constable ian hopkins giving the latest on their investigation. just a few lines to pick up out of that. they have contacted the family of all 22 victims as i told you earlier. not an easy thing to do to release names. they've released 12 names so far, but they are under the guidance of the coroner and there is an identification process which has to u nfold identification process which has to unfold before that can be done. there is speculation in social media, he said that a serving police officer was killed in the foyer of
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manchester arena on monday night. we also understand her husband was injured and we are being told as well that there were two children with them who are also being treated. there are a couple of lines ijust want treated. there are a couple of lines i just want to bring you treated. there are a couple of lines ijust want to bring you as well from social media. manchester evening news are reporting this evening, police, unnamed sources from the police that the bomb maker is still at large. i suppose we would take that for granted given the threat level that's been increased. this place they are searching on granby row and it is surprising they are searching a place in an upmarket area of manchester. there are reports that it was an airbnb flat, maybe that explains why they are searching that and they are still there. that search is on going. let's go back to the headquarters of greater manchester police because daniel sa ndford manchester police because daniel sandford is there. what did you take from that press conference, daniel?
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well, i think perhaps the most telling part of it was in the questions at the end when he perhaps with a slip of the tongue he said, "yes, this is a network that we are investigating." i think that suggests very clearly that they do believe this was not a man acting alone. self he have departmentally that's the way the police investigation has been going for the last 2a hours and i think we can assume at this point that there is not, there has been no success in finding a bomb factory and that's because we haven't seen the kind of cordon that gets put up around a place where bombs have been made. we just haven't seen that in any of these locations the police have been into. after the 7thjuly bombings, a construction was built around the house and an enormous cordon and we haven't seen that at any of the recent addresses. they are investigating a bomb—making network and they haven't found the bomb factory. when we are talking about a
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bomb maker like this, daniel, there is obviously a certain amount of sophistication to creating a suicide vest which needs proper training and presumably training outside the country? yes, not necessarily a suicide vest, i don't think, we think it was necessarily that, but it's certainly, the use of the chemicals that are needed to make an improvised explosive device or to actually get hold of explosive that is pre—made, both of those, involve either a degree of sophistication in terms of the criminal network you're involved in or a degree of sophistication in being able to do simple science. and then you've got to keep the chemicals in a stable condition and you've got to be able to build a suitable detonator and that's not something that can be done frankingly without a bit of trial and error and that's why terrorist organisations have typically either used specialist
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bomb makers or have had a lot of training that they've used for people to learn how to make bombs, the 7th july bombers, people to learn how to make bombs, the 7thjuly bombers, you may remember, went and trained this pakistan. i think that's what makes them think that this is a man who is working with others because they haven't found the place where he could have made the bombs and because of the degree of sophistication of the device that they found, suggests that they're not sure that he's the man that would have been able to make it anyway. i was reading some of the stuff on bbc online that the home affairs unit has written up over the last few days and your colleagues are making the point that quite usually in these cases where they are plaiting a bombing of this kind, there is always a weak point and that will be surprising i think to the security services that they weren't able to pick up the threads of this before it happened? yes. though, i mean, through history
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there is always been attacks that get through. the ira famously said they only need to succeed once and they only need to succeed once and the security services needed to succeed all the time. so, i think what the police will be hoping now is, and i'm sure there will be, there was a weak point in the planning that they can get at now. there will be something in the clues from the explosives found and from the way the bomb was built, from trawling through cctv and through dash cams and so on which allow them to build the picture of this, but counter—terrorism policing in britain, it's almost a different kind of policing. they literally leave no stone unturned. they will go through everything and eventually history says they will probably find that vital clue which then starts to get them to where they need to be. i just think that at the moment, there was a great deal of speed in identifying the bomber because to a degree he had assisted them by
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having some id with him, but at the next stage, it hasn't been easy. they haven't quickly got to the bomb—making factory, so it will be a long, long torturous forensic path until they get lucky. long, long torturous forensic path untilthey get lucky. i long, long torturous forensic path until they get lucky. i don't know if you can comment on the social media, the flat they are searching in greater manchester is an airbnb property. i know in previous incidents, airbnb properties were used. is this a new technique? i mean obviously it is much easier to hide your trail when you're not in a property that you rent or you own? yeah, i don't know if it is a technique that's of its time. it is still early days, the flat. we don't know what there is there, but let's speculate slightly and imagine if that's where he spent the last few days and if he had recently arrived backin days and if he had recently arrived back in the country then it is an
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easy way of arriving back in manchester and not having to be seen by your friends and relatives for example that you just book a flat on air bmentand example that you just book a flat on air bment and b or some other accommodation booking site and that's where you stay. it's just that's where you stay. it's just that's how people book accommodation. it is almost the old, in the old days people would have booked a hotel room. yes. speculation at this time, but interesting nonetheless. daniel, thank you very much for that. fascinating detail from daniel sa ndford fascinating detail from daniel sandford there. if you're just joining us, i should tell you we are still at the cordon. this is manchester arena behind us. those steps there with the railings alongside them, that leads up to the arena and we're told by the police here that the police, the forensic officers, are still on site as you'd expect them to be because as daniel said no stone will be left unturned in this investigation and so they will be looking for any fragments of that bomb and anything that points toa that bomb and anything that points to a signature or identifier in that bomb that would give them a lead in
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their investigation. so perhaps that forensic work will continue perhaps forensic work will continue perhaps for a few days yet. our correspondent richard galpin has the latest. of those killed in the attack on monday night, more have been named including olivia campbell, who was 15 years old. herfamily including olivia campbell, who was 15 years old. her family have been desperately searching for her, hoping she was still alive. amongst the other victims was kelly brewster from sheffield whose partner said he and their daughter, like everyone, were absolutely devastated. and martin hett a pr manager whose friends described him as wonderful, iconic and beautiful. much more is also now known of the person who detonated the powerful bomb filled with metal nuts and bolts at the manchester arena, killing and maiming so many people. he was 22—year—old salman abedi,
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born and brought up in manchester, of libyan parents. he was known to the security services. a former classmate has described him as gullible and short tempered and that he had become increasingly religious at school. there are now reports he travelled to countries where islamist extremists are based. the french interior minister said he had been told by investigators here in britain that abedi had gone to libya and then probably to syria. he was radicalised and decided to commit this attack, he said. yesterday heavily armed police carried out raids in south manchester, arresting his brother. and there have been more raids today with another three men arrested in the city. with the authorities increasingly concerned, abedi was pa rt increasingly concerned, abedi was part of a network of extremises, the
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terrorist threat level has been raised to critical, the highest possible. it means armed police can now be backed up by thousands of troops across the country. some are already in place guarding downing street. this was a thor rifk violent event. it was more sophisticated than some of the horrific events that we have seen in the past or in other parts of europe so people are reasonably wondering whether he did this on his own? buckingham palace is one of the key locations where troops will be positioned instead of police. and today, the usual ceremony around the changing of the guard was cancelled. and there has been particularly high security at st paul's cathedral in london for a visit by the queen and duke of edinburgh. we've got so many big events across the country. we will be working with the organisers to
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review the security, review their stewa rd i ng review the security, review their stewarding arrangements and review our policing arrangements and make sure that decisions are taken that events sure that decisions are taken that eve nts o nly sure that decisions are taken that events only go ahead when it is sensible and safe to do so. in manchester, while people continue to grieve, there is a determination to remain united as a community. we we re remain united as a community. we were numb yesterday with shock. i guess we're waking up to the enormity. people did take enormous comfort what what happened yesterday. it was our darkest hour, but also you saw the best of greater manchester yesterday. i was in the hospitals late last night and i was hearing stories that porters, cleaners, surgeons, nurses came in from not being on shift to help out. the public were bringing in food. people really did pull together and we should take a great deal of pride in that, that at our most testing moment that greater manchester kale together. that sense of community spirit is vital, but it will still ta ke spirit is vital, but it will still take time for the city to recover
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from the trauma of what happened here on monday night. the threat level increased from severe to critical which means an attack is imminent rather than likely. the prime minister says that's a proportionate and sensible response to the threat that they face at the moment and so, what you will see around the country is more and more soldiers out on the street. 981i deployed so far, so buckingham palace, downing street, today and also the houses of parliament, soldiers replacing armed police so that they can go on patrol in other parts of the city. let's cross to our correspondent in westminster. so this roll—out is starting to happen around the country leila, 981i, happen around the country leila, 984, but more soldiers at their disposal? we know there are 4,000 soldiers available to be deployed at key locations and events around the
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city and eventually around the country. now, just earlier this afternoon, we saw about 20 or 30 soldiers from the parachute regiment walking into the palace of westminster. we understand they were being briefed. within the last hour orso, being briefed. within the last hour or so, cressida dick the metropolitan police commissioner has been talking to the joint military in london and briefing the soldiers who will be working alongside met police officers here. there is a heavy armed presence, armed police presence in westminster, but now we have soldiers taking over some of those duties so that officers can be deployed in other areas of the investigation. you mentioned there that downing street has already seen some soldiers here so we expect that to bea some soldiers here so we expect that to be a feature now in the coming days. now, this was as you mentioned a part of operation temperer, this government plan to put thousands of soldiers on the streets in response toa soldiers on the streets in response to a major terrorist attack and this is what is going to be continuing
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over the next couple of days. we know this morning that the cobra emergency committee, the meeting of high—level government officials, ministers, cabinet members and intelligence and police officials, the third meeting of that happened this morning. after that the home secretary, amber rudd said it was likely that the attacker wasn't working alone so this is where the focus of the investigation is now going. now, as faras focus of the investigation is now going. now, as far as the general election campaign goes, we know that campaigning has been suspended. there is no word yet on when it will resume in earnest, but ukip have decided to go ahead with their ma nifesto decided to go ahead with their manifesto launch tomorrow saying that the best response to this is actually for the democratic process to continue. but at the moment, ukip are on their own in going ahead with are on their own in going ahead with a full—on campaign. it's very hard at the moment to imagine a general election campaign in full swing again. amber rudd talking and expressing a certain amount of frustration that
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details of this investigation are starting to leak from the american side? absolutely. i mean, there has been a concerted effort to keep certain bits of information like the identity of the attacker initially, secret from the press and the public so that the investigation is not hampered, but certainly yesterday when it came to the identity of the attacker we heard that coming ot from the american side. the home secretary, amber rudd, very clear that was not helpful. she reiterated that was not helpful. she reiterated that again after the cobra emergency meeting today, but i think certainly we are still seeing bits and pieces coming out in the us media from american sources and that certainly won't leave the government best pleased. thank you very much indeed. bbc‘s question time will be coming from manchester tomorrow night to reflect on the attack and if you would like tojoin the studio on the attack and if you would like to join the studio audience for that programme, you can apply via the programme, you can apply via the programme website.
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lots to discuss, of course, politically and about the security in manchester and around the country at the moment. so that's question time if you want to take part in that. let's talk about salman abedi. 22 years old and born in manchester, went to school in manchester. enrolled recently from salford university, but didn't attend many classes at salford university. there is speculation that he was in libya recently and perhaps even syria according to the french government, but certainly out of the country and coming back in, in the last few days. so with more on the investigation, here is our security correspondent frank gardner. the face of salman abedi. identified as a manchester city fire bomber. he's now thought to have had helped quite possibly from an expert bomb maker. this amateur footage ta ken yesterday is believed to show his brother being
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arrested in manchester. at the family home nearby, police used explosives to gain access and then search for clues. but there are international connections to this plot. from manchester, abedi is believed to have gone to libya, a failed state. and today, the french interior minister said was also a country he'd probably spent time in. increasingly, investigators have been coming round to the conclusion that the bomber, salman abedi, was not working alone. that he was simply the mule, carrying a device designed and built for him by somebody else. the bomb—maker would still be at large which is why the uk terror threat level has been raised to critical. mi5, the security service, is working with police and other intelligence agencies to try to trace every possible connection he had in this country and abroad. this is what we know about salman abedi. he was born in manchester in 1994 of libyan parents from tripoli. he dropped out of salford university
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and was already known to security services. in fact, the individual i spoke to yesterday who was a very close friend of the family, described him as a nieve individual. it would indicate he could not have put the explosive belt on. he must have had support helping him do that. meanwhile, the search for clues continues. forensic, digital and testimonies from witnesses and suspects. this, say the police, is a fast moving, wide—ranging investigation. raids all around manchester in the last two days. let's bring frank in for us. he's in our london studio. frank there is one raid on going in
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the business district of manchester. it's different to the other properties that have been searched. it is in the heart of the business district whereas the others have beenin district whereas the others have been in the south. so this is slightly different. what do you make of it? sorry, i'm in london. i have no idea what that means at all. i'm following the investigation internationally so we are looking at whether there is anything behind this syria connection and what the libyan connections are and they are significant, but it is important to say straightaway that the libyan community in manchester has been unequivocal in condemning this attack, saying that this isn't attack, saying that this isn't attack on all of us. now, there is a sizeable libyan community in manchester as you know, christian, many of whom went to fight in libya in 2011 to depose colonel gaddafi and the british government didn't try to stop them because that was seen as a try to stop them because that was seen as a legitimate fight, different from the jihadists that we re different from the jihadists that were going off to syria to join
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banned prescribed groups like isis. now, they all came back and it is very unusual for now, they all came back and it is very unusualfor a now, they all came back and it is very unusual for a libyan to take pa rt very unusual for a libyan to take part in something like this. nearly all the britishjihadists that have left the uk to go to fight in syria, tojoin extreme left the uk to go to fight in syria, to join extreme groups, they have not been from arab ethnic groups. there have been a very tiny number of arab origin, most have been from south asian origin. and because it's a failed state, libya, frank and the investigation will go in that direction, it will be very difficult for the authorities because there isn't a coherent government in place to help with that investigation? that's the problem as i think i mentioned, it's a failed state. after the overdrou of colonel gaddafi in 2011 libya disintegrated into several parts. it has two governments. they don't recognise each other. there are different law courts and different
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militias, the armouries were broken open after gaddafi fell so there is lots of weapons in private hands. there are parts of the south of libya that are effectively under control of al-qaeda and the borders are open in the south and the sahara. it's a hotbed of militancy in some parts of it and let's not forget that it was from libya, from an isis training camp there that the terrorist who crossed the border into tunisia two years ago went to sousse and raided that beach resort and slaughtered over 30 tourists, 30 of them british on the beach. the explosive, there is a lot of work going on in the foyer of the arena and they are trying to pull together the elements of the investigation, but specifically the bomb material. is there something they will be able to do piecing all that together to maybe find a signature or an identifier from that together to maybe find a signature or an identifierfrom the way the bomb was made? yes, there is. britain is something of a kind of market leader in this very grisly
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business of reverse engineering devices from the recovered residue and the fragments at a place in kent. it is part of the government's defence and technology labs. i spent a day there last year. they weren't able to show me much for security reasons, but they analyse everything from a firework left in a phone box to the remains of the pan am jumbo brought down over lockerbie and they have got a pretty good set of infa ntry of have got a pretty good set of infantry of the dimp types of devices and whether it is using ptn and tatp, whatever the explosive, they can usually find out from that, where it is likely to have been made, how sophisticated it is, does it carry the signatures of any other devices that have been used, they pull in expertise from israel and across the middle east. very interesting. frank gardner, thank you very much. well, of course, a
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huge focus on the libyan community here in manchester which is one of the biggest in the country. they are putting out statements saying they reject wholeheartedly what has happened here at manchester arena, but there will be a lot of focus too as but there will be a lot of focus too as frank was saying on libya. a failed state, quentin sommerville has been to the countries in tripoli for us and sent this report. we believe salman abedi's father maybe in libya at present. this is a family that has links to radical islamist groups, that has expressed support for al-qaeda, not just for al-qaeda, but al-qaeda news ra front in syria. it's worth remembering huw that libya, it is much forgotten about it in the war against the so—called islamic state, but it has become the southern compass point of their caliphate and thousands of fighters from libya who battled against president gaddafi moved to both syria and to iraq and honed the
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skills further. they were then able to come back here and set—up a base here and of course, they can then move from libya to europe. we don't know if salman abedi was part of that network, but his family certainly have links and have expressed support for those radical islamist groups. it's known that 22 people were killed in the bomb attack. the identities of twelve have now been released. all of the families of the victims have been told and there will be a lot of focus on the coroner, he will pull together the forensic work that's going on and will advice us of the names as and when is appropriate. there are still 20 people in the hospitals. out of 64 that were taken to hospital, 20 are ina that were taken to hospital, 20 are in a critical condition. and you can
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imagine that solicitor of these injuries are very serious indeed. let's get more on the victims from judith moritz. little saff roussos ie roussos had gone with her mother to dance to her pop idol. she became the youngest known victim of the arena attack. the eight—year—old's death has hit her community hard. parents holding their children close and mound of flowers and tributes at her family's fish and chip shop, continuing to grow. saffie was a pupil at a village primary school in lancashire. her loss has affected parents, pupils and staff who held a minute's silence for her this morning. saffie was simply a beautiful little girl in every aspect of the word. she was loved by everyone and her warmth and kindness will be remembered fondly. saffie was quiet and unassuming with the creative flair. saffie comes from a close, loving family and we can only imagine what they are going through. the names of those killed keep emerging. the identities of half of the 22
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concertgoers who died are now known publicly. amongst them teenagers who had gone to the gig and at least four parents were gone to collect their children at the end of the show. greater manchester police say they're now confident they have been able to identify all of those killed, but their families have been contacted and they are being supported by specially trained officers. yesterday, the mother of teenager olivia campbell was searching for her daughter. today came confirmation that the 15—year—old is amongst those who died. her mum paying tribute to her on facebook. 59 people were injured in the attack. hospitals across manchester are continuing to treat many of them. they are traumatic injuries you would expect in terms of the type of device used, the proximity to the people who were injured.
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we are dealing with loss of limbs potentially, we are dealing with embedded objects, all the horrific injuries that you would expect from the event that happened. 20 years ago, this church was damaged in the ira bomb attack. today it's just one spot in the city which provides a focal point for grief and a place where strength and solidarity are on show too. the chief constable of greater manchester police said bevan of duty police officer —— a serving police officer is one of the 22 victims. a
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lot of people have been pulling together here in manchester. i've been speaking to michael haynes, the brother of david haines, the worker who went to syria to help out in syria, he was captured by islamic state and murdered in 2014. michael haynes works for peace organisation that goes around the country to thousands of people. every terror attack, no matter where it takes place, no matter of the so—called reasons, political, religious, always hits hard. the attack the other night was particularly disgusting, such a cowardly act. to target women and children like that is beyond belief. what advice can you give to people who might have been affected? i
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imagine you never really get over it, but is there anything you can do to be able to move from day—to—day? i would advise every family affected, all the victims, even if you just witnessed, reach out. there are many organisations that can help. here in this area we have the foundation for peace, who personally helped me a great deal with coming through my own trauma. so, reach out to them. talk to them. you can't do it by yourself. i was thinking, as inevitably you do in these situations, what i would do if it was my son or daughter and it would be easy to hate. that's lower path to hate would be so easy. as we saw the response after the attack, the
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incredible response from the police, the manchester people across all faiths, across all colours across every culture, people rushed to help. the vigil. so many different people. no matter the reasons why these people commit such atrocities, it doesn't matter. what matters is our response. every act of terror is about hatred. they want us to stand up about hatred. they want us to stand up and despite hatred. they want to divide our community. they want to destroy the fabric of our great country. so what is really important... manchester showed the way. manchester student together,
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important... manchester showed the way. manchesterstudent together, is standing together, and they are showing the way. the vigil, so moving. so many different cultures there. all sharing, all trying to help. it's wonderful. manchester should be proud. good to talk to him a little bit earlier. interesting to watch last night here in manchester at albert square hundreds of people came together for the vigil. there will be another vigil this evening. as you walk around the city, lots of flowers seem to be left in different positions. i'd say churches, outside poignant positions around the city. you see candles and flowers being laid. the manchester evening news appeal, which has been launched for the victims on just giving has
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reached £1 million already, within just over 36 hours. an million pounds for the victims of the bombing on monday night. lots to talk about, particularly about the hotels in manchester, that did such a sterling job helping out with lots of people who were lost or who didn't have a phone to call home or just wanted some work to shelter in the panic. adrian ellis is the president of the manchester hoteliers association. you have lots of families staying in the lowry hotel. we did. lots of families. some got split up on the way back so we tried to reconnect those people by offering phone services, offering them some work to meet. we have a lot of families and tried to be very sensitive on the day that they departed on tuesday. he had a couple of staff members at the construct.
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we did, yeah. lots of our hotel community had staff members attending the concert. they also saw some things that were terrible. we had to counsel them and spend time with them to major that they could see through this and get a better terms for themselves. it has been difficult all round. i just want to go to difficult all round. i just want to gotoa difficult all round. i just want to go to a press conference at manchester royal infirmary. let's listen in. yesterday was an extraordinary day. a day, and incredibly busy day, as you would understand. a day of meeting families and colleagues with mixed emotions going on, but also a day of immense pride of the people who were working with, and is the support of hand from within the hospital and outside. would you both involved with the patient‘s? outside. would you both involved with the patient's? i wasn't yesterday, apart from in the early hours. i came on as
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yesterday, apart from in the early hours. i came on as soon as yesterday, apart from in the early hours. i came on as soon as the incident was declared. i supported the team. everything was already running ina the team. everything was already running in a smooth way. it was a very quick setup, really established workflows through the adult side of the hospital, and i'm sure it was the hospital, and i'm sure it was the same in the children's side as well. i work through the mouth of the rest of the teams went home mid—morning and had a rest. i left the teams here to pick up the day work and across the organisation everybody pulled together in a really impressive way that filled me with pride. i have been here for 11 years and that was an incredible day of round. you are used to dealing with serious injuries, how did this compare in terms of scale and severity of what you have seen? from the emergency services side, the volumes of patients come in through was relatively small, which is what
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is different to normal practice, but the severity of those injuries, by virtue of the facts we are a trauma centre, the patients were much more sick than the usually get in terms of the volume. in that sense it potentially had the ability to overwhelm what we were doing, but the setup, both from the emergency service side, through to the intensive care, and the broadside was amazing. by seven o'clock in the morning on that first night, the emergency department here on the aduu emergency department here on the adult site was back to normal. if you had walked into the recess of patients we did was clean as a whistle and you wouldn't have known anything was going on. it was incredible. the children's work was a bit slower to the emergency department, but not much further behind. their volumes were a bit higher than behind. their volumes were a bit higherthan ours, behind. their volumes were a bit higher than ours, but all in all it was a very higher than ours, but all in all it was a very different day. a very different day. remarkable in many
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senses. we can't discuss the injuries were the drama side of it at all. it affects people in different ways so it affects people in different ways so working with colleagues, particularly today when people have the time to reflect, people are struggling with what they have seen and gone through. i go back to one of my first statements, there is an immense feeling of pride and comradeship having pulled through what has been a difficult time on every angle, just in terms of what you're saying, how busy it has been,
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but people have pulled out the stops (and centre. they but people have pulled out the stops ( and centre. they have but people have pulled out the stops (and centre. they have been organised about that, so the planning that has gone around the emergency procedures has paid off and that we haven't been overwhelmed with everybody wanting to be there at the right time. there has been a structured handover between shifts and people passing on their duties so we can and people passing on their duties so we can keep the work going. this morning and yesterday morning, they have been able to look after patients not involved with this event who also needed emergency care. nothing has been delayed from elsewhere throughout. the feedback we have had generally has been incredibly supportive. there has been so much well wishing on social media that we have seen. we had surpassed its support in terms of people have kindly sent in the most amazing amounts of sam burgess,
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pizzas and whatever. i think the staff will potentially roll—out of the departments! the professional organisations, our suppliers, have bent over backwards to make sure we didn't run out of anything essential, to majorly good immediately deliver the clinical ca re we immediately deliver the clinical care we needed to. inaudible question. the major incident response is a standard policies that we have in the trust and is built around tom aggar we have only got what we have got. there are collared that's you have. i came in as an extra month of overgrown to be overwhelmed. what we needed to remember is that we needed to work yesterday, and the need to
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work today, and we needed to work la st work today, and we needed to work last night, as well. having all sorts of folks coming isn't the right thing. we had to say to people, don't come in. with regards to the extra load that people were doing, people came in, did extra work and for those patients that needed to go to theatre, that extra work was able to be done because we also have the theatre staff during their work. the work we have been doing over the last number of years really helps streamline the patient streaming. we only got the sickest of the sick and we were able to put them into theatres straightaway. some of the procedures river during her fascinating. highly emotionally challenging has been produced and the other doctors having patents under16? any injury is potentially... you
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have a bit of resilience in there, but i can tell you that i went home not feeling great on tuesday morning. it was terrible. i think everybody has that moment. it will potentially get a little bit worse, because the kerfuffle of what went on actually distract dues from the real emotion of things and you can walk away tonight and you still have the thoughts, the memories, the stories of what you have had to do that night in your head. it doesn't really matter if they are kids are not, it isjust really hard. we need to support the patient you are here, because they have had terrible experiences, but also the stash —— the staff. we can talk about the ages of the patients. one thing we had to deal with was looking after children and
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we didn't know who they were. we couldn't identify them. it was remarkably hard, somehow more so than doing the medicine, not having a clue of the name of the person you're looking after and not knowing where their parents were being able to share with them what was going on. inaudible question. a number of bars before we could identify everybody. inaudible question. i would have to say that what has come through our daughter is not something exceptional in terms of things we might have seen as one or two patients presenting after a car accident or something like that, it was the volume that was extraordinary. certainly the separation from family was really ha rd separation from family was really hard i think for everyone on every
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level, the families and the staff. what do you do if you don't know who the patients are? treat them. that is easy. the human thing is you can'tjust say, is easy. the human thing is you can't just say, peter, is easy. the human thing is you can'tjust say, peter, i am going to put a needle in your hand. if there is no name it is difficult to make that connection with the patient. i had a numberof that connection with the patient. i had a number of relatives who were here who got here before they knew where their relatives were. patients would disconnected even though they weren't on the site any more. they we re weren't on the site any more. they were here but they were lost. it surprised me, unanticipated in a way, that we would have the lost patience. to see what the relatives we re patience. to see what the relatives were going through as well as the patients was really difficult. inaudible question. height are the children coping
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emotionally? i think it is early days for everybody is the honest answer. the children, the parents and the staff in the front line, people are only beginning to be able to reflect. it is early days to comment on that. one of the most remarkable things that are swung quickly into place was our campus service. they strung straight into action to give us extra support at all action to give us extra support at a ll levels. action to give us extra support at all levels. that has added an immense layer of support to everybody. inaudible question.
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it's not like anything i have seen before, no. i can imagine that when the last bomb was here the mayor have similar circumstances —— there may have been similar circumstances. in the last bomb and lots of injuries but no deaths. this is a different beast. in terms of the pulled together from the entire community... patients we re the entire community... patients were leaving saying my injuries aren't that bad, i will come as an outpatient for my procedure. staff came in as extras. we have the companies delivering food. we have had more pizzas delivered to the children were today delivered from the boston medical centre, and i mean boston in america. the work we have done here is reflected across
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greater manchester, that is a fantastic show of what we can do as the nhs and as an organisation that is deliberately built.|j the nhs and as an organisation that is deliberately built. i have been deluged from colleagues across the uk and the other major children's hospitals of offers of support at every level you can imagine. everybody has stepped up to the mark. alter a hospital but deborah rossin mark. alter a hospital but deborah ross in allowing us to move some of the patients who weren't so unwell across to them during the night when we knew that things were presenting the way they did. without all the different bits of the jigsaw it wouldn't have worked as well as it did. are you still carrying out more operations and surgeries? yesterday morning was very operations and surgeries? yesterday morning was very busy. we certainly had to look at the elective people, so had to look at the elective people, so those who went in for anything urgent, we have to change some of
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that workload. we are returning back toa that workload. we are returning back to a more normalflow that workload. we are returning back to a more normal flow of work now. that is the same for the adults. yesterday everything was disrupted. all of the patients they came in would've had a requirement to be in hospital, some will need more than one operation, some ijust did a single one. it is difficult to know, but there will be repeated procedures on a good number of them, but we are back to normal pretty much. what was the message from the hospital in boston? they sent pizzas, that was the message! it was the boston medical centre. they are not isolated in their support, but they are isolated in delivering pizzas, that's for sure! all the organisations, notjust pizzas, that's for sure! all the organisations, not just in pizzas, that's for sure! all the organisations, notjust in the uk or the nhs have been offering support. it is fabulous. it is truly amazing the response both internally amongst the response both internally amongst the teams, but also externally from everybody. it's been brilliant.
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inaudible question. i would have to say that before this happened on monday evening, we were feeling busy already. the staff, support networks and plan came strong interaction. things fell into place. it will not be easy of something else happens, but we have the plans, have fantastic staff and fantastic support. some of the ambulance paramedics were back out again last night, saying some of their colleagues had gone into the arena on friday monday night knowing that they had their own kids in the
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concert. many patients coming in are probably people they know. that might be a bit close to the bone to answer. again, we are getting into numbers and that is for other folk to talk to, noticeably nhs england. inaudible question. you can imagine, in any sort of the situation, and i will talk from the child and family point of view because that is my bread and butter, when something happens suddenly it is always devastating to the family andi is always devastating to the family and i don't think this in many senses any different. perhaps the fact that is a shared horror has added something to people are going
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through, but it is an individual catastrophe to every involved. one of the great things we have had by being cited with the number of other hospitals here is that we have been able to keep families together. ouraduu been able to keep families together. our adult colleagues have been coming down the corridor of looking after some parents in the wards next to their children so we didn't have to their children so we didn't have to separate people. we have delivered adult care within the children's hospital where possible to keep those families together. that is really important. this is a special circumstance we have been able to do it because we are located beside each other in this facility and that has been fabulous. ordinarily, you would think, how are we going to do that? but we did it because it was the right thing to do. again, that is part of that support mechanism.
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inaudible question. we were heavily supported by the police are not function. in the initial hours and three yesterday we we re very initial hours and three yesterday we were very focused on delivering the clinical care, the madison, to these people. families were present we we re people. families were present we were supporting and looking after them, but the police were leading them, but the police were leading the major confirmation of who was who. i have to say, we did look on social media ourselves for our unidentified persons to try to help that process along, but the whole process was steered by the police. inaudible question. we did identify one person through that route. i
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can't give any more details. inaudible question. i think that is patient detail that we can share. thank you. honestly, as one of the leaders in the hospital, i went home yesterday just bursting with pride at my colleagues, the way they perform, the way they looked after the children, the families and one another. i came here because i thought this would be a fantastic place to work. yesterday totally and
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utterly confirmed that more than any other day and my 15 year to year. i would agree. as an organisation, working together, it was brilliant. you are probably not meant to feel pride, argue, but it was amazing. you have a group of people working for you, you have a plan and you almost felt like you didn't need the plan, itjust almost felt like you didn't need the plan, it just worked. almost felt like you didn't need the plan, itjust worked. was incredible. thank you. thank you. thank you very much. so, true doctors deeply involved. some fascinating detail their coming. a lot of planning goes into events like this, they train for it specifically. it is much more difficult to deal with that when it happens, but such was the planning
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that by seven o'clock the next morning, he said, they were back in order in the hospital, things were back to normal, they had control of the situation. the difficulty staff had dealing with people who came into the hospital who had no name, no family with them. and they are taking them into surgery didn't have a first taking them into surgery didn't have afirst name, taking them into surgery didn't have a first name, and that is obviously very difficult for staff. while they are supporting patients, the hospitals will have to support the staff who have been dealing with dreadful things in the last few days. let's bring in sophie long. i was saying the other night, we talk about the hospital staff, but also the paramedics. well everybody was trying to get away from the arena, they were running the opposite direction, not knowing what they we re direction, not knowing what they were going into. the bravery and dedication of his medical teams is extraordinary. yes. ithink dedication of his medical teams is extraordinary. yes. i think you got a real sense from that region from
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the two doctors. both of them saying at different points that they immense pride for their colleagues, bursting with pride one of them said when he went home. in terms of what they had been through, you got a sense of how difficult it has been for them. whilst they were delivering the clinical care, it was difficult working with very young children and some of them and not knowing who they are or where their pa rents knowing who they are or where their parents where. he said that back continued for some powers and while the police were going to great lengths to identify the young people, so were they at the hospital. he talked about the community spirit, not just with people delivering pizzas and some arejoked and people delivering pizzas and some are joked and said people delivering pizzas and some arejoked and said many of people delivering pizzas and some are joked and said many of the staff would rule out after a few days such a beam the contributions brought in by members of the public, but also patients who weren't involved in the
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attack on monday night saying, look, my injury is that serious, i can go away and come back tomorrow. bravery on all sides. sophie, away and come back tomorrow. bravery on allsides. sophie, thank away and come back tomorrow. bravery on all sides. sophie, thank you. we will have a press conference in the next few minutes from its pre—mask. this is the manchester islamic centre, the mosque that salman abedi attended. let's listen in. in the name of allah, the most gracious, good afternoon. peace be upon you. i am a trustee of the
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manchester islamic centre. on behalf of the manchester islamic centre, we would like to welcome you all to the mosque. standing beside me, behind me, is the imam, who is the chief imam of the manchester islamic centre. this man is the chair of the manchester council of mosques. we have also the welfare officer of the manchester council of mosques. we have a member of the youth committee of the manchester islamic centre. we
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