this is bbc news, it's 8pm. i'm christian fraser live in manchester. the father and brother of the attacker are arrested in libya. before carrying out the attack salman abedi travelled to libya — and possibly syria as well. police believe he was not acting alone. it's very clear that this is a network that we are investigating, as i said it continues at a pace, there's extensive investigations going on. police here have arrested a fifth man in connection with the incident. he was detained in wigan — police say he had been carrying a package. in another development, the new york times has published photographs of what appear to be the remnants of the bomb — and the backpack it was being carried in on monday night. an off—duty policewoman was among the 22 who were killed, police say they now know the identities of all the victims. hundreds of troops have been deployed in prominent sites, around the uk, as britain's threat

level is raised to critical — the highest there is. good evening and organ to manchester, we are in the saint ambrose marco square in the heart of the city. there are a growing number of flowers being laid. there are plenty of places to put them and this is just plenty of places to put them and this isjust one plenty of places to put them and this is just one of them. also thought of heartfelt messages and talk messages left on the floor. i'm looking at the manchester love hearts, messages of solidarity and sympathy with those who were killed. we now know the identities of

sympathy with those who were killed. we now know the identities 01:14 who we re we now know the identities 01:14 who were killed including an off—duty policeman who was in the foyer when the bomb went off. we are learning about the bomber, salman abedi. he was 22, enrolled at salford university and there have been a rest here and in libya. let's tell you about the key developments. officers here in the uk have now made five arrests,including a man in wigan seen carrying a suspicious package. in addition, the father and a second brother of the manchester suicide bomber have been arrested by libyan police. another significant development this evening is that the publication by the new york times of photographs of what appear to be the remnants of the bomb from monday night. we must assume these are leaked photographs. the bbc understands that the bomber

is thought to have detonated a device , which had been built by someone else. our security correspondent is saying that he was a mule. the terror threat alert indicates that further attacks may be imminent. hundreds of troops have been deployed, to protect key sites across the country, including downing street. an off—duty female police officer was among the 22 killed in monday's attack. she has not yet been named. her husband is critically ill , and their two children were also injured. we'll have all the latest developments here in manchester , and reaction , first here's our chief correspondent gavin hewitt with the latest on the attack. late morning, central manchester, and a raid on a block of flats, part of a huge operation to discover the network of the manchester bomber. the operation involved armed units,

some wearing military clothing. their target, a flat recently rented out. got to the front door and was greeted by an armed police officer with a machine—gun. i asked him what was happening. hejust said "out!" to gain access to the apartments, they blew down a door. other police units arrived looking for any signs of a bomb factory. there have been raids in different parts of the city, this one involving armed units. the police regard themselves as in a race against time, trying to find other members of the network to prevent further attacks. this was just one of a number of police operations carried out in manchester today. you will be aware that the level of activity in this investigation is intense and is continuing at a fast pace. it's clear that this is a network that we are investigating. it continues at a pace. the uk is now a country on high alert.

this was reading this morning. and this was the scottish parliament in edinburgh. outside downing street, soldiers were patrolling alongside police. eventually, 3,800 troops will be deployed. elsewhere, the changing of the guard at buckingham palace was cancelled, a nation living with the expectation of an imminent attack. we have now gone to a critical level in terms of the threat. operation temperer has now been invoked, and that means there will be additional military personnel coming to backfill the armed police officers so that they can support other areas. all of the special operations are aimed at discovering the circle linked to salman abedi, the manchester bomber. it has become clear that he was part of a terror cell. police today were examining his house in south manchester. abedi may have been a mule, the bomb carrier, but bomb makers may still be at large.

abedi returned to the uk from libya a few before the attack. ——a few days before the attack. today, abedi's younger brother was arrested in libya on suspicion of links with the so—called islamic state. his father had posted this picture and called him a lion in training. abedi worshipped at the didsbury mosque. one of the trustees today condemned monday's attack, although he didn't take any questions. the horrific atrocity that occurred in manchester on monday night has shocked us all. it has indeed shocked us all. this act of cowardice has no place in our religion, or any other religion for that matter. on monday night, salman abedi carried out a suicide attack at the manchester arena. 22 people were killed and 59 injured. these are some of the 22 people

who were killed in the attack. police say they are supporting their families. the youngest was just eight years old. also killed, a polish couple from york and a serving off—duty police officer. all day in manchester, people have been coming to the town hall to lay flowers and to remember. just pain, because everybody in manchester seems to know somebody that attended. my daughter had a friend that went. it's like we're all linked together. it's like it happened to someone in your own family. i brought my red, white and blue rose down and just wrote some words. ifelt like i had to come. that was the mood here, defiance, but they need to show and share hurt. there's nothing any of us can really do from this end, but you want to do something,

even if it's just a few flowers to say we care. that's something. tonight, manchester is a city that knows there may be people in its midst who have planned mass murder and may strike again. gavin hewitt, bbc news, manchester. this is the most complex investigation that greater manchester police will amount to. and at the fast moving investigation. we have at the wigan arrest and a raise close to piccadilly station in the business district of the city. —— a raid. a number have also gone on in chilton and fallowfield. and in prestwick, danjohnson and fallowfield. and in prestwick, dan johnson is there. this is the scene of the latest police search.

officers arrived at 6:30pm. they said about 45 officers came here in a fleet of police vans desert the flat within the tower block. they moved the door in and use specialist equipment using a jamming device which was also used by the team that arrived here just over an which was also used by the team that arrived herejust over an hour ago, toward an hour and a half ago. this is the latest scene on the east side of manchester. right out on the eastern edge. the hub and searches across the city today. this is now an investigation that is spreading overseas, involving different countries as well. a lot of police activity around manchester and five people now being held under arrest. we understand one person may have been taken away from this tower block to be questioned, and great master police have not confirmed that. a number —— the police have not confirmed that. people are being questioned this evening. do you have

any more information about the wigan arrest? not a great deal. that was the fifth arrest this afternoon. we understand a man arrested there was carrying some sort of package, people have described. another intense scene of police activity, something that has sparked off reports from people that are posting videos and pictures on social media. every time this happened in a different place, but drummers of police involved, many of them heavily armed, it can be a worrying scene for people because these are the sort of counterterrorism units we are not used to seeing on the streets, they're using techniques to gain rapid entry into homes, blowing in doors, but creates a noise in mind that can upset and worried people. this is popping up right across the city, as the police get more information and evidence and follow all those leads as quickly as possible. they know there is a real intent priority now to try and track down whoever might have been part of

this network, working with salman abedi, who helped crack day planned the attack, who else was involved? these are important questions for the police and services abroad now, too. good to talk to you, thank you for the update from prestwich. there has been frantic activity in the fourier area of manchester arena. putting together the bits of the explosive together, ascending to the laboratory, looking for a signatory oi’ laboratory, looking for a signatory or anything that points to the identity of the bomb maker. there will be frustration this evening. amber rudd expressed this. photos are being leaked by the intelligence services in the united states. more about salman abedi,. he attended salford university although he

didn't go to many lectures. he grew up didn't go to many lectures. he grew up in manchester and was a keen footballer. he was going back and forth the last few years to libya. the french government say he may also have been to syria. ed thomas has looked into his background. suicide bomber salman abedi, an extremist who attacked the city of his birth. now investigators surround his home. like everyone here, they want answers. this man knew abedi. he had watched him come and go from manchester to libya. now he can't believe what his neighbour did. unbelievably disgusting, to be honest. especially for a muslim. and a libyan as well. to us, obeying the law of the country is the most priority number one. that's what the prophet teaches us. some talk of erratic behaviour, of abedi chanting in the street. he was shouting in arabic. the bbc has been told a black flag

with islamic writing hung outside his home. many had no idea what it meant. i saw some sort of flag outside. with islamic writing on it? ididn't i didn't really look at, it was just... was in english writing? no. a community worker who didn't want to go on camera has told us that two people who knew salman abedi at college went to police several years ago. they said he was supporting terrorism and had expressed a view that being a suicide bomber was ok. greater manchester police will not comment on those claims. and what about the manchester bomber‘s family? this is his brother ismail, now under arrest in libya for supporting so—called islamic state. this is abedi's father, affiliated to extremists, the libyan islamic fighting group, now back home in libya. on his facebook page, he praises al-qaeda fighters in syria. before he left south manchester, we are told he would take part

in prayers in this mosque. he's there all the time when the prayers are happening. he's a guy who announces. police now want to know if anyone else knew what salman abedi and his father believed. salman abedi's father, he was well known in the mosque? oh, yeah. a good man? he is a good man. this man is close to the trustees at didsbury mosque. like many, he had no idea of the family's extremist links. we know he is connected to extremist fighters in libya, groups close to al-anda. right. is that a problem, though? they did not show that to us. is that a problem, though? people like yourself, good people, don't know who they are with? the mosque trustees have to do more about that.

leaders of communities have to sit together. tonight, didsbury mosque said salman abedi was a coward whose crime had no place in their religion, a man willing to kill and hurt in the city that was once his home. ed thomas, bbc news, south manchester. i was telling you about that photographs in the new york times. we have had smart home affairs correspondent. he has spoken to syria people —— senior people in counterterrorism. they said they are clearly frustrated. they said the lea k clearly frustrated. they said the leak undermines the relationship with partners and undermines the investigation and confidence of victims, witnesses and their families. in a compromising message

in counterterrorism police were trying to keep on top of the investigation, because obviously this will undermine this investigation to a certain extent. amber rudd is already, as i said, made her feelings plainly amber rudd is already, as i said, made herfeelings plainly known amber rudd is already, as i said, made her feelings plainly known to the american authorities. she said she had been on the phone and talk to the americans about things being leaked. equally frustrating, you would think, for the police and intelligence services will be the limited help they would get in libya. it is a failed state without a cohesive government. quentin somerville have been there. he sends us somerville have been there. he sends us this report. there were two arrests in the search for salman abedi's network. his father and brother were picked up by counterterrorism officers in

tripoli. salman abedi travelled regularly to this country. the country had been collapsing under the weight of its civil war but battling extremism, including so—called islamic state and al-qaeda. after the libyan revolution, something like 3.5 thousand people travel here. many joined isis. one of the first fighting brigades, and most effective foreign fighting brigades, helped is capture their detractors capital raqqa. after a while, they took control of the caliphate's southern stronghold. but has since been lost. al-qaeda are still present here and isis. salman abedi travelled to this country and on many occasions. the question of

whether he was part of a wider network of extremism, while there have been plenty of open doors for a number of networks here in libya. quentin somerville bay in libya. i have to arrest there, the father and brother of salman abedi. you are watching bbc news. let's focus a little but more an counterterrorism measures which are in place here in the uk. and whether they go far enough. dr rizwaan sabir is a lecturer at liverpooljohn moores university, and was himself arrested under anti—terror law. tell us about being on the end of anti—terror legislation. tell us about being on the end of anti-terror legislation. it was a full arrest while i was doing my research on the politics and terrorism without any sense of

irony. i was detained for seven days and released without charge. i then went on to secure a legal victory and won damages my fourth arrest and imprisonment in toronto's wealth it emerged that they had been —— it emerged that they had been —— it emerged they had been... the rest is history. this taught me that the state is perceiving the whole nation of ideology at the core of terrorism and political violence. words are no longer words but they are being used as weapons of war. everybody saying one thing is worthy of being investigated. the consensus has been constructive and manufactured to deal with the so—called foundation and driver of terrorism it is said to be ideology went actually there was no social, scientific or empirical evidence to prove that actually ideas lead evidence to lay

individuals to violence. we are barking up the wrong tree, so to speak. bloody play devil 's advocate. is there a dilemma —— let me play devil's advocate. some can provide documentary or word—of—mouth evidence that an atrocity will be committed. isn't that like to —— isn't it right to take that person into custody. how can a person knows so much? the first rule of undertaking intelligence and police work is to essentially have a good relationship with the community, in order to ensure that everyone feels confident and able to was share rightly share information in a time of crisis like this. they only feel the confidence and ability to do that if they have got a sense of a cce pta nce that if they have got a sense of acceptance for whom they actually are, but what happened since the

london bombings in 2005 is that the government has introduced the prevent strategy, and that undertakes an overt forms of surveillance on those individuals who are not involved in criminal activity but are involved in dissent, radicalism... it's interrogated? for completely legitimate activity. they are getting it wrong —— it is in france as well, they are antagonising communities. give me some positive elements, what can change to make it work? 0k. politicalviolence, and argues that word on purpose, because the driver of political violence is politics. what the current strategy does is it negates the role of politics, the role of war and conflict and securitisation and militarisation, and we havejust

deployed 1000 military personnel across this country. that is an exceptional form of action that has been undertaken. it's an exceptional incident? absolutely, but not a com plete incident? absolutely, but not a complete departure from what we have experienced in 2005 at the london bombings. we can do lay talk about the trends and similarities but the approaches that have been used have securitise the community and the world ii. the world war ii. saudi resolve conflicts and how —— how do you solve complex goode it's a combination of socioeconomic and political factors, justification in the name of ideology? this is a man who's been educated in britain, ben to salford university, has a house in greater manchester. how has he not been integrated into society? he is about

as british as fish and chip. raised in manchester, and that raises questions around the role that, one thing i must stipulate for your viewers is the individual is responsible for their actions but what are the contributing factors? how other structures of power, institutions of the nation state? contributing to isolation where an individual feels they cannot be civic participants and pro active citizens and feel the urge to go away, thousands of miles to whoever it may be in the arab world, and undertake acts of armed violence in the name of trying to bring about some kind of... how does that apply to this individual? he went to university, did a business degree, was a football fan, he was british as fish and chips as you say? at what point... as british people, we need to think what role did we play? he's been to libya and syria. he is

born and raised here. leslie davis, christian. when you take away the idea that this individual has been living in britain and emphasise the libyan connection, what you are essentially doing is absorbing ourselves of responsibility for this individual and what they may have carried out, and he has carried out. what we are seeing is the libyans and those others in far—away distance, desert lands are actually responsible for this act of the political violence. but we in the uk are not involved. and one of the problems of having a policy that neglects the role that we may actually be playing in contributing, because we are not totally responsible, we are contributing. and the only way that we can address this issue is recognising and accepting that we may be contributing to this and the only way to address that is to stop

contributing. some people say if we gather together what we have today, and actually prevented work boat in some way, because they alerted the authorities to an individual —— prevented work in some way, but they have not one seriously enough to stop it. the challenge with the services and collection of individuals of interest, the net has been cast so wide that like i said, innocent activity like process and demonstration. let me tell you a secret live on television, m15 open the file myself, and academic studying counterterrorism, because i attended a pro—palestinian illustration. i have the documents. you cast the net so wide and broad

that, basically it drains the limited resources, and they do have limited resources, and they do have limited resources, and they do have limited resources regardless of what james bond says. they cannot, therefore, focused on individuals who are actively involved in plotting and planning acts of violence like we saw her on monday. we are, therefore, focused on individuals who said something at a university or change the way they dress, and therefore divert our attention that should be given to those individuals involved in violent. what is the solution? let's go back to our common justice system, and away from their state of exceptionalism, stop lionising and making martyrs out of these individuals. and recognising, we have a very sophisticated as historically the president of legal infrastructure to deal with these individuals. as we have on so many occasions where we have dealt with people involved in violence, the transatlantic bomb plotters, transatlantic bomb plotters, transatlantic bomb plotters, transatlantic bomb plotters. they

we re transatlantic bomb plotters. they were prosecuted under the 1861 explosive act. they can deal with this no problem, let's go back to that, let's go back to a system that has open justice and is compatible with the very values that we hold so dearand with the very values that we hold so dear and the government claims to be protecting, by undermining them. great to debate these issues with through. thanks microbe to make one point, we are standing in the square here all i can see is muslim people saying they are in our hearts and prayers, that i vast majority are deeply integrated. including myself. the first interview at 6am this morning, the first thing i said, i love this city, i stood here, i am one of the biggest honorary mancunians who will ever find. and to see, i live ten minutes away, and ican to see, i live ten minutes away, and i can see the —— i live ten minutes away from the attack site, i could see the emergency services and know what it feels like to be targeted as

a member of that immunity but i have to ta ke a member of that immunity but i have to take my community has asked when i talk to you live on television to these, somewhat controversial, but important issues. thank you. you've only got lots of thoughts on that, a big debate going on at the moment about how integrated some people are in our society and what we can do more on that. it'll be a debate that goes on for some time. that's took a bit about the victims. we are getting more details, the greater manchester police said today that they know the identity of all of the people who were killed on monday night. we don't yet all have the names because it is a complex process. we will be told when we can release the names, certainly next of kin have been told about death and there are specialist trauma officers with those families. allan little has been taking a look at the

victims and those treated in hospital. as their names emerged today, one thing was inescapable. the extreme youth of so many. there is a special anguish in this. the carefree tenderness of the lives lost. olivia campbell from bury was 15. her family spent yesterday frantically searching for her. they learned early today that she had died. her mother, charlotte, posted this message on facebook. saffie roussos was eight. she went to tarlton community primary school in lancashire. this morning, her classmates at assembly sang, don't stop believing. her mother and sister are still in hospital. she was loved by everyone. her warmth and kindness will be remembered fondly. saffie was quiet and unassuming with a creative flair. saffie comes from a close, loving family and we can only

imagine what they're going through. marcin and angelika klis from poland lived in york. this photograph was taken shortly before the attack. they had come to collect their daughters from the concert. their girls lost both parents in an instant. i've been a deirdre barlow super fan. she's always been my favourite character. this is martyn hett speaking to the bbc in 2015. he was 29, gregarious, full of enthusiasm. his partner wrote, our wonderful, iconic and beautiful martin didn't survive — he left this world factory how he lived, centre of attention. kelly brewster was 32 and from sheffield. she died shielding her 11—year—old niece from the blast. her partner wrote, kelly really was the happiest she'd ever been. we had so many things planned together. georgina callander had adored ariana grande since childhood and had met her.

she was 18 and a second year children of health and social care, planning a career committed to helping others. john atkinson, who was 28 and from bury, also studied health and social care. one in a million, his friends said. loved by so many. a true gentleman. jane tweddle—taylor was a school receptionist and a mother of three from blackpool. she was waiting for a friend's daughter. she is irreplaceable, her colleagues said, bubbly, kind, welcoming, funny, generous. neljones was 1a and described by her teachers as a bright and popular pupil, always smiling. it feels like the school has lost a sister, they said, not a classmate. sorrell was also 1a and from leeds. her mother and grandmother were injured, her grandmother critically. her sister survived without injury. miohelle was married with three young children.

her family issued a statement saying, family was her life, she has been taken from us in the most traumatic way imaginable. friends lisa lees and alison howe were waiting for their 15—year—old daughters. both girls survived the blast but their mothers died side—by—side. look into these faces and youth and optimism beam back at you. children, young parents, leading normal, blameless lives. alan little, bbc news. details have been emerging all day about the victims of the attack. kelly brewster died while reportedly shielding her niece from the blast. martin and angelika klis were there to pick up their daughters. charlotte leeming reports. a selfie on a night out for this couple.

they were waiting for that daughters at a pop concert nearby. they were due to go home but never did. the parents missing after the blast, and their 19—year—old daughter made a plea to find them on facebook desperate for information about their whereabouts, but it was confirmed the couple died in the attack. at york college, the principal told us that staff and students have been struggling. alex has been with us for quite a while and we know her very well. there are those across the college who are upset by the news, saddened, by what has happened to alex and her family. the students are deeply concerned about her and how she will be coping. we have arranged extra support for those students and staff,

and of course, we are working with the city and the wider networks to make sure we can do everything we can to support alex, because actually, she's our first priority at the moment. originally from poland, martin and angelica were very popular. the collection bucket has been left at this counter to raise money for the daughters left behind. martin was a taxi driver here. the management team said he was a pleasant, loving family man well respected by his colleagues. they have said they would do everything they can to support his daughters, family and friends through this tragic time. meanwhile, sheffield has lost a citizen, kelly brewster. she was at the arena with her niece holly and her sister.

she shielded her niece from the blast, saving her life. there have been many tributes, including this one from her grandmother. her heroic actions don't surprise anybody who knew her. it's no surprise to anybody. she would help anybody. it's shocking! i can't even think about it. as victims‘ families try to cope with the loss, others are still missing. the families have the most agonising wait you can imagine. we have been getting details, one of

the things which stands out is that there were a young victims and we've focused on them but you also get the idea that there were parents waiting for their children on their way out of the console, a number of parents killed. i read today about a couple who had gone together to pick up their daughters who were together in their daughters who were together in the concert hall and standing close to the bomber. martin hett had a huge social media following and earlier today his ant and cousin came down to albert square and told us came down to albert square and told us how they had been coping. initially he was missing as a lot of people are, we were just holding out hope that he had lost his phone or he had ended up somewhere and we we re he had ended up somewhere and we were reading comments about the brya nt were reading comments about the bryant people of manchester have

been and we just held on to that,, that he would find him somewhere and he would wonder what all the fuss was about. sadly we got confirmation late last night that that was not the case. none of us knew him, but from the pictures and what we have heard he was a real character? just unique, very characterful and loved life. people would not say anything bad about him. such a nice guy. big fan of coronation street and ariana grande, and due to go to america. he should have flown out today. he had been saving up for a year. could not wait to go. he was very excited, the last couple of days he had been saying goodbye to his friends, having leaving parties and i think

the concert was the last time he would see his friends. one last thing to do before he went away. just did not turn out how he wanted it to. he will be a huge hole in the family, how do you think you're going to cope? we are just going to support each other, that is all you can do, nobody plans for something like this. we are not the only ones in this boat, 22 otherfamilies like this. we are not the only ones in this boat, 22 other families out there are the same as us. the vigil yesterday, the city coming together, can that help? definitely, we have a lwa ys can that help? definitely, we have always lived in manchester, its hometown and it does not surprise me at all. the warmth of the people. lots of heart—rending stories about those killed, particularly poignant was hearing from the doctors and hospitals. they have been taking

ca re of hospitals. they have been taking care of people in those hours after the attack and many of the people they were taking care of they did not know the first names and it was obvious they had been split from their parents and families and said that was the most difficult thing to deal with. we often forget what paramedics and hospital staff have to deal with, the train for it but do not expect to have to put it into practice. let's talk about the deployment of troops. 98a now in place around the country, many more at the disposal of the senior police officers should they need them. joining me now from aldershot is major general tim cross, who served in the british army for a0 years. good to talk to you and thank you for being with us. not at all. tell me what soldiers died in times like this because they are used to going to conflict zones, not being deployed on their own streets. they are not, this deployment falls under the umbrella of what in military

jargon we call military assistance to the civil power. there is also an assistant to civil authorities which cover things like floods, the foot and mouth crisis and so on when a civil power is supporting the police and the fire brigade and so on. it is unusual for them to be displayed on the streets. the biggest in our generation terms has been northern ireland where we supported the police in northern ireland and for some period of time took the lead. but it is unusual. but the reaction of soldiers, they will be delighted to have been asked to have been involved because like everyone else they will be angry about what has happened and anything they can do to help bring reassurance and stability and the further attacks, they will be loving that from that point of view. obviously soldiers are highly

professional and highly trained but the rules of engagement are different for them than they are for police officers, how do they adapt? you are right, it's important to stress the police command and lead this, they set up a series of commands, this will be a gold commands, this will be a gold command led by police chief inspectors at least in terms of rank and then e—mail —— the military will have people alongside him. many are training all the time, overseas, we have people all over at the moment. we train for have people all over at the moment. we trainfora have people all over at the moment. we train for a wide spectrum from on the one hand high intensity war fighting operations all the way down to peace support operations, peacekeeping, and this sort of thing. but most of our soldiers will not have been through a training programme for this for quite a long time because of iraq and afghanistan. ensuring they

understand the rules of engagement, giving them roles where they are not trying to do the police job, but supporting them in doing their work. that will be part of this. it's a key issue. the battalions concerned will be wanting to ensure the guys understand, how they will be operating. one thing which does occuris operating. one thing which does occur is having reported so often in france is that actually these soldiers on the street and they are very visible in france is that they have become a rich target for these kinds of people. they have, and it's an important point. the wider debate here about what are we in the uk, what do we the british people want in terms of reassurance on the streets ? in terms of reassurance on the streets? we've never gone down nine of having a third force and the french and other nations, i have lived in france and germany and cyprus, people do this differently

to us. traditionally we come from a position of an armed police, we do not put no today on the streets and we do not have a third force. i personally would want to stay at that end of the spectrum. end today is world we need more armed police but the principle of not deploying soldiers on our streets is an important one. cobra will not have done this lightly. i think in the current circumstances is understandable but i am sure they desire will be to get the soldiers of as soon as possible but the scale of as soon as possible but the scale of this and the unknown quantity of how many others are out there, at the moment this is an important step. but you are right, we are very different, i think we need to stay different, i think we need to stay different and be careful before we go down that road too far and not turn back from it. the soldiers owed on the streets will know that

potentially they are a target, will they be told to patrol in groups a and be mindful of the threat they face? absolutely, we talk about them acting as a reassurance but they become a target and we used to talk in northern ireland, i did bomb disposal work in the 70s and we patrolled in bricks, normally four. but i do not see this deployment involving soldiers patrolling the streets, they will be guarding installations that the police would normally be guarding to release the police to do other things. i would be surprised if we found our soldiers working in twos and fours walking the streets, i don't think what this is about. but they do become at target and they do need to become at target and they do need to be prepared for the fact they might become a target. a great pleasure to

talk to you, thank you for being with us this evening. as you can see behind us, lots of people here in manchester tonight. this sea of flowers is growing, people coming down to stand with their own pot and lay their own messages. it's not the only focus in the city, other places around the city outside churches, close to the arena, where these sort of vigils are being held. certainly manchester coming together. we have seen the worst of humanity but we are also seeing the best. plenty more from manchester this evening, stay with us but for the moment back to the studio. the father and a brother of the suicide bomber, salman abedi, have been arrested in libya. police believe he was not acting alone. police here have arrested a fifth man in connection with the incident. he was detained in wigan — police say he had been

carrying a package. in another development, "disbelief and astonishment" across whitehall after the new york times publish photographs of what appear to be the remnants of the bomb — and the backpack it was being carried in on monday night. let's have a look at the sport. half—time in stockholm in the europa league final between manchester united and ajax, united have the lead. there was a minute ‘s silence before kick—off as a mark of respect for those killed and injured in the manchester terror attacks, mourinho broughtjuan mata and chris smalling into the side, marcus rashford leading the line but it was paul pogba who got the goal for united with the heavily deflected shot

inside 20 minutes. manchester united will qualify for the champions league next season if the win tonight, they resume in the next couple of minutes, 1—0 up. following the manchester attack chelsea have decided to scrap their planned premier league victory parade on sunday. they say it would be inappropriate. also because of the heightened security threat the club say they do not want to divert resources away from the emergency services. chelsea could also be in possession of the fa cup this weekend if they can beat arsenal at wembley on saturday. should the gunners win they have also decided against a victory parade for the same reasons. the arsenal manager will trust the security arrangements already in place for the match. you wa nt already in place for the match. you want people to go to enjoy life and they come out and you have people in concerts, it's absolutely unacceptable and really sad. i was

in paris on the night when it happened on the 13th of november 200015. happened on the 13th of november 2000 15. it's happened on the 13th of november 200015. it's a huge shock and our solidarity and compassion is com pletely solidarity and compassion is completely total with the city. the spanish supreme court has rejected the appealfrom spanish supreme court has rejected the appeal from lionel messi spanish supreme court has rejected the appealfrom lionel messi over tax fraud. he was given a 21 month jail sentence and fined over 2 million euros but his jail term is likely to be suspended. as is common with spain in first offences were non—violent crimes carrying a sentence of less than two years. to headingley, south africa's cricketers trying to chase down england's total of 339 in the first one—day international of the three match series, these games also serving as preparation for both teams at head of the champions trophy. england put into bat first, alex hales making 61 before a

brilliant partnership between eoin morgan and moeen ali push them onto a big total. morgan out for 107, moeen ali ended the innings unbeaten. south africa the number ranked team in one—day internationals in the world. despite an early wicket they look likely to chase down the total, they lost hashim gablac lbw on review. —— hashim gablac lbw on review. —— hashim amla lbw on review. could be a tight finish. the great manchester run is going to go ahead on sunday following talks over security following talks over security following the terror attack. europe's largest ten k run had more than 35,000 runners last year, and there will be a half marathon this time. great manchester police have already said that the great city games could go ahead on friday evening in the city, now they have

given the green light for the great run as well with additional security measures expected to be in force. that's all the sport for now, more later on. the conservatives and labour have said that national campaigning in the general election will resume on friday after suspending efforts for three days due to monday's attack. both parties have also said that local campaigning will restart tomorrow after a minutes silence in respect for the victims. ukip will launch its manifesto tomorrow. we can talk to our political correspondent ian watson at westminster, we were talking earlier, you said you thought the tone of the resumed campaign would be much more muted, what have people been saying? i think it will be more restrained, paul nuttall from ukip,

they launch their manifesto tomorrow, the first to break ranks with the suspension of the campaigning in wake of the manchester attack. he said it's important political parties were not cowed by the terrorist threat. certainly the tone from the main parties will be more restrained. it's been robust, even drill at times. iam it's been robust, even drill at times. i am told for examplejeremy corbyn will be making a speech on friday which will be about democracy and british values. this is not the usual stuff of campaigns, the normal slanging match you might expect. it will be a civilised and restrained tone at least initially. also this important phased approach to the campaign, starting locally then working up to the national leaders getting involved. not immediate rush from what we saw was relatively respectful silence from the politicians these past few days,

this is not ratcheted up immediately and we don't get back to business as usual, politics as usual, but something where i think people can make the case, the political case in the wake of the manchester tragedy rather than immediately perhaps trading at the usual level of insults. i suppose we are in quite uncharted territory because suspending campaigning during a general election period like this is almost unprecedented. yes, there was almost unprecedented. yes, there was a suspension during the referendum after the death of jo a suspension during the referendum after the death ofjo cox and some people got it completely wrong in terms of working out in their minds at that time how this would affect the results. i don't think we can draw a conclusion as to the effect that this stage yet that the suspension will have and the more constrained tones from politicians and party leaders. ithink constrained tones from politicians and party leaders. i think it's interesting as well that there will bea interesting as well that there will be a minutes silence, an act of

remembrance for the victims tomorrow at 11am observed by government buildings andi at 11am observed by government buildings and i imagine much more widely. that will happen before local campaigning takes place so very much against that kind of backdrop rather than people saying look, let's forget about this, business as usual. the arguments made and the discussions held today between the prime minister and jeremy corbyn where that it was important for democracy that the debate resumed albeit in a more restrained tone. good to talk to you, thank you. five people have died in a crash involving a lorry and a car on the m6 in staffordshire. four women and a man — who were all in the car — died in the accident which happened between stoke—on—trent and stafford in the early hours of this morning. the lorry driver's been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. liz copper reports. the crash was on the southbound stretch of the m6 between stoke—on—trent and stafford. the emergency services were called

just after 4:30 in the morning. four women and a man travelling in the car — a nissan micra — were killed, while another man in his 40s was taken to hospital with serious injuries. we are still in the very early stages of the investigation. it appears that it was quite a catastrophic collision between the lorry and a car, so it was a very challenging scene. the lorry driver, who is from the west midlands, is being questioned on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. the motorway was shut southbound for almost eight hours, leading to lengthy tailbacks. the motorway has now fully reopened, but accident investigators will want to establish exactly how this crash could have happened, when it was early in the morning, traffic would have been relatively light and driving conditions were apparently good. police are still trying to trace the victims‘ next of kin, and are appealing for any witnesses to come forward. liz copper, bbc news, stafford. we will get the weather in the

moment but breaking news in connection with the manchester bombing, a woman has been arrested following an armed raid on a block of flats in black clay in the north of flats in black clay in the north of the city. that comes from greater manchester police. that's a sixth arrest. let's get that update on the weather. thank you, more strong sunshine over the next few days, temperatures will continue to rise, getting close to 30 degrees perhaps. warmer today in the south west, more sunshine, the best of the sunshine in scotland across more eastern areas. you can see the extent of the cloud from the earlier on and more recently we started to see some fog forming

through the irish sea in particular, that will waft its way, get drawn up towards eastern pa rt that will waft its way, get drawn up towards eastern part of northern ireland up into the south west of scotland, patches to the english channel as well. clear skies overnight, the cloud retreating up to the northern isles, it will be a warm night and pretty muddy as well, quickly warming up on thursday in the sunshine. a misty start around some irish sea coasts but conditions will improve, keep the cloud towards the northern isles. some cloud bubbling up, that would amount to much, generally going to be sunny skies, blue skies. more of a breeze blowing across the south—west of england and the south—west of wales, lighter winds as you move into the heart of england where temperatures are widely into the mid—20s, to peak at 27 or 28. warmer even than today for northern ireland in the sunshine and that warmth is pushing up into scotland. warmer day than today, the

heat continues to build on friday, again the sunshine will be strong, more of a breeze around, drawing in drier and warmer more of a breeze around, drawing in drierand warmerair more of a breeze around, drawing in drier and warmer airfrom more of a breeze around, drawing in drier and warmer air from the more of a breeze around, drawing in drier and warmer airfrom the near continent which will push its way further into scotland so could get up further into scotland so could get up to 29 degrees which is unusual for this time of year. widely inland again across the rest of the uk, temperatures into the mid—20s possibly higher. into the seat and she comes a weather front which will start to bring change, some thundery downpours perhaps moving into england and wales were we could hit 30 degrees in the south—east, wetter weather moving north into scotland and northern ireland. to sum up, we start off quite warm and also rather humid then we get this thundery breakdown which starts on saturday and could continue into sunday and perhaps monday the fourth fresh conditions arrive from the west and temperatures will drop away from

where they are right now. hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. in manchester, the search for answers following monday nights suicide bombing at a concert is ongoing. we're finding out more about salman abedi — the man behind the attack. he was 22 years old. his father and brother have been arrested in libya. it is said they have connections to extremist groups. after the threat level was raised last night, soliders have been deployed on to the street of britain. the police say they're finding out more all the time. i think it's very clear that this is a network we are investigating. the new york times has published photographs of what appear to be the remnants of the bomb — in what appears to be another leak of sensitive uk intelligence to us media. also today... donald trump has met the pope at the vatican.