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this is bbc news. i'm jane hill live in manchester. the headlines at 3pm: the queen visits royal manchester children's hospital, where staff battled to save the lives of children caught up in the manchester attack. to target that sort of thing... it is awful. a minute's silence is held across the uk in memory of the 22 people who were killed in the bombing. after photos showing debris from the manchester suicide bomb are leaked to american media, theresa may promises to act. i will make clear to president trump that intelligence that is shared between our law enforcement
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agencies must remain secure. police describe recent arrests as "significant" and say some of the items seized in raids are "very importa nt". in the next hour, donald trump is on a charm offensive in brussels. having criticised both institutions in the past, the american president is in brussels for talks with nato and eu leaders. and net migration to the uk falls by 84,000. most of those leaving the country were eu citizens. the queen has been in manchester today, to meet victims
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of monday's bomb attack. the queen has been visiting the royal manchester children's hospital where she spoke to some of those wounded in the attack. one woman described the injuries she'd suffered after being hit by nuts and bolts. the queen said what she had been through was "absolutely dreadful". she also met doctors, nurses and members of the emergency services who responded to the attack. of the 75 people admitted to hospital across the region, 23 remain in critical care. andy moore reports. the queen met dozens of staff who had worked through the night to deal with the victims of the bombing. many of them had volunteered to come in after hearing of the attack. she also met four young girls recovering from the blast, and their parents. well, it's a shock, isn't it? yes, a big shock, a really big shock. for everybody, really. very scary. very wicked. one of the girls she met was 15—year—old millie robson,
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a proud ariana grande fan, still wearing the singer's t—shirt. i got to meet her before the concert as well, and she was lovely. really, did you? she won a competition for her and her friend to meet her backstage. the queen's visit was unannounced. she told reporters about her recollection of the bombing. they tied jumpers around the main winds on my leg and then they picked me up and ran outside. a lot of the paramedics were outside and strangers were helping us. the queen made a woman who was injured. what happened? i had shrapnel injuries. it has gone through 15 centimetres of the other side so i am due in
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surgery of the other side so i am due in surgery later this afternoon. the queen's visit was unannounced. but by the time she left, a crowd had gathered. there was a spontaneous round of cheering and applause. andy moore, bbc news. meanwhile police in manchester investigating monday's attack have stopped sharing intelligence with the us after leaks to the media. theresa may says she will raise the issue with president trump when they meet later today at a nato summit. the new york times published photographs of shrapnel of the bomb and a rucksack got to have been used. let's take a look at some of the other main developments:
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0fficers investigating the attack have described the arrests made eight people remain in custody. the prime minister announced the terror threat level remains at critical and urged the public to remain vigilant. and earlier today a one minute's silence was observed in tribute to those killed. this report is from our home affairs correspondent. a warning that it contains scenes you might find distressing. another fast moving police operation in manchester this morning. officers with guns closing off roads around a college. army bomb disposal experts were rapidly on the scene, responding to a suspect package which was later found to be safe.
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this has been happening for three days now in manchester. heavily armed officers arriving at locations as police try to manage an ever expanding investigation. 0vernight, there were more raids and more arrests, including at this house in withington in south manchester. at the moment, eight men are in custody. most appear to be libyans living in britain. these have been an intense three days for the officers and staff of greater manchester police, along with the national counterterrorist policing network, and uk intelligence services. i want to reassure people that the arrests that we have made are significant. and initial searches of premises have revealed items that we believe are very important to the investigation. more details of the bomb itself came out overnight. it appears to have been in a blue backpack, fragments of which were found at the scene. the bomber, salman abedi, probably bought the backpack on friday. the details leaked to the new york times by the american source suggest the bomb had this metal initiator and an unusual
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high current battery. it is thought the explosive may have been hydrogen peroxide—based, like tatp. but the leaking of the forensic pictures has caused fury. police have stopped sharing information with the americans, after what they called a breach of trust. the prime minister will now raise it at the highest level. shortly i will be travelling to the nato summit, where i will be working with international colleagues on defeating terrorism. i will make clear to president trump that intelligence that is shared between our law enforcement agencies must remain secure. and the new manchester mayor expressed his dismay. i made known my concerns about it to the us ambassador. it's not acceptable to me that, you know, here there is a live investigation taking place, and we cannot have information being put in the public domain that is not under direct control of the british police
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and security services. it seems that salman abedi, the bomber who killed 22 people at the concert on monday, travelled from libya, will leave that report because we are expecting an updates from the hospital laboratories in terms of the people injured. the children's emergency department in the royal manchester children's hospital we received a total of 55 patients over the course of monday evening and monday night. from the bomb explosion in the city centre. just under half of those were children. like the rest of the nhs we have practised and trained forjust such a major incident and that practice has helped enormously. this is a terrible incident for the people involved unchallenging for those past with dealing with the aftermath. i am enormously proud of
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all of our staff who have risen to those challenges magnificently. they have worked tirelessly, with the ca re have worked tirelessly, with the care and skill we knew they would andi care and skill we knew they would and i thank them from the bottom of my heart for that. many of the injuries were horrific and potentially life changing for the patients involved. as well as the physical support for patients we are providing emotional support for them and their families. as that this afternoon there are 32 patients still in hospital receiving treatment for those physical injuries. of the 18 adults five remaining critical care and of the 14 remaining critical care and of the 1a children still in hospital five remain in the children's critical ca re remain in the children's critical care unit. all patients continued to receive ongoing care with many needing further surgery. we anticipate by the end of the bank holiday weekend that some will be
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able to return to their homes but some patients will require staged reconstructed of surgery and intensive rehabilitation for some time. this has been a challenging time. this has been a challenging time for staff who are receiving our full support and we will continue to provide that. i would also like all of our colleagues in other hospitals across greater manchester and beyond who have offered ungoverned their understanding support. i would also give special thanks to colleagues in north—west ambulance service and greater manchester police who are and have been integral members of the team dealing with this incident. finally i would like to repeat again our most and they condolences to those who have lost loved ones in this incident and our continuing support for those who remain in our care. iam support for those who remain in our care. i am happy to take a few questions but i cannot get into any detail on the condition, treatment
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or in degrees of individual patients. you mentioned some of the patients. you mentioned some of the patients being able to be discharged. might other patients be able to be moved closer to families? that is something we consider if patients are stable enough to tra nsfer patients are stable enough to transfer and choose to do so to enabling major trauma centre, we would try to facilitate that. generally can you tell us the type of injuries you're cheating? the injuries... people receive in this sort of situation are different to the normal sort of injury you would see in the nhs. these are blast injuries though they are complex and challenging. the queen meant working of the first paramedics on the scene. what support i be getting? they are getting support from our in—house teams and we will continue to provide that and we will go through a thorough debriefing.
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whether any injuries from the rush to get out or was it mostly from the blast itself? not that i am aware of. can you tell us more about the queen's visit, how much that lifted the spirits of patients and staff?|j was the spirits of patients and staff?” was not involved in the queen's visit, i was in a conference call, but i am sure a visit like that lifts people, it makes them feel valued, appreciated, and it is a good experience for staff to having these challenging situations. the queen also meant patients and their families as well. in your career can you recall situations with so many children and young people in such a condition? i am a surgeon by background and then the 90s you may recall we had quite a lot of gunshot wounds and knife injuries through that decade. i have seen injuries
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not entirely like this but similar. but the scale? not since the last bomb. how unusual is that so many children come in at the same time dealing with those, injuries? very unusual. what challenges does that bring? the challenges are the same whether it is adults or children, the staff who are used to dealing with those patients rise to the challenge and the clinical situation. the motion support required is perhaps more intense but it is very much part of the same picture. you have seen how professional the staff are at getting on with the job. when you go home and reflect... (inaudible). all
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of us who deal with this situation, talking to family, getting support, from family and colleagues, and i know that is happening. thank you. apart from the obvious injuries, what about psychotherapists, specialist, have you been working with them? yes. the professor giving an update on those who were injured in the blast in manchester on monday night. 18 adults remain in hospital and 1a children. of the 18 adults five of them are still in a critical condition and five of the children are ina condition and five of the children are in a critical condition. 18
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adults than 1a children still in hospital. you got a sense of the wide range of injuries when the professor was saying he was hopeful some people might be able to go home by the end of this bank holiday weekend but that was absolutely not the case for quite a number of others and he said there will be others and he said there will be others who will need further surgery and as he said reconstructive surgery because and as he said reconstructive surgery because the medics are dealing with complex last injuries. a comprehensive update from the medical laboratories. some distressing facts and figures which remind us of the bomb which went off on monday night and the fact it was so on monday night and the fact it was so tightly packed with nuts and bolts and that has caused the truly grim injuries that he and his staff are still having to deal with and that sometimes very young people are going to have to deal with for many
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yea rs going to have to deal with for many years to come as a result of what happened here on monday. we have been talking about the ongoing investigation. the threat level remains that critical. there is a lot of anger within the intelligence community because some intelligence details have been leaked in the united states and we have all seen the photos originally on the front of the new york times this morning. theresa may has just arrived in brussels. 0n the way into the meeting she spoke to waiting journalists and was asked about her meeting that will take place at some point perhaps in the next 2a hours with the us president donald trump. 0n the issue of the intelligence sharing with the us we have a special relationship with the usa, it is our deepest defence and security partnership that we have.
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that partnership is built on trust and part of that is knowing that intelligence can be shared confidently and i will be making clear to president trump today that intelligence that is shared between low enforcement agencies must remain secure. low enforcement agencies must remain secure. theresa mayjust after arriving in brussels. i have been talking with the investigation with our security correspondent. unless there is some wonderful news that we have not yet been told they have not found bomb yet. any further explosive devices
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or the person who they think has built the device that killed 22 people in manchester on monday night. that is the key thing. that is why this country is still at critical threat level. once they find it and they think they have neutralised the immediate threat we will go back to severe. as long as we are critical it means another terrorist attack could be imminent. it does not mean it is inevitable but it could be. that is the key indicator. theresa mayjust before lunchtime said that we will remain criticalfor time being. we cannot stay up at this level of readiness for long, it was three days in 2006 and four days in 2007. we have been on it tuesday, wednesday, thursday, this is the third day, it is really stressful for everyone having their leave cancelled, everybody being on high alert, but they have to do this until they find this device which they suspect there could be more than one that were built by whoever the bomb maker was. what is your assessment of the fact
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that police here in the uk have said they will no longer be sharing information with the us? there is a political element there but also in terms of the practicalities, the police trying to do theirjob, to do the work you are talking about, what is the impact? let us be specific. this is any information, any intelligence, about this specific manchester attack investigation that is discovered and provided will not be shared with the americans because twice they have revealed that to the media. the uk and greater manchester police have said enough. normal intelligence sharing between m15 and m16 in this country with their us counterparts will continue. the normal day—to—day business between embassies will continue. it is a small bump in the road but it is quite a serious one for britain to withhold any intelligence from its closest ally, this is a backward step,
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a very necessary one in this case because the priority is to let the police get on and do theirjob and catch the bomb maker and stop any further devices being detonated and anything that gets in the way of that has to be removed. it is totally understandable how they are feeling. there have been some pretty harsh words in the us. it was not the white house. it was not donald trump revealing something more than he was supposed to. it was from the us intelligence community and that is a sprawling community employing hundreds of thousands of people, 16 different agencies across the us, fbi, nsa, homeland security, cia, the list goes on, it is one of those agencies. pressure on the newspapers with ever shrinking readerships means that newspapers are now in a rush to do a scoop and i think in this case it has backfired.
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daniel benjamin was co—ordinator for counter—terrorism during the barack 0bama administration. i am curious what went through your mind when you saw this leek of information had happened, when you looked at the new york times and so those photographs taken at the bomb scene. what did you think was going on? first thing that went through my mind was that i had on many occasions had to pass m essa g es to had on many occasions had to pass messages to other governments on behalf our intelligence services that if the leaks that nonstop
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co—operation would be diminished and this was shocking and appalling. i was astonished that we had gotten to this place. i honestly have no idea how it happened. as frank gardner pointed out, there are intelligence and low enforcement apparat is, i cannot rule out the possibility that the leaks cannot rule out the possibility that the lea ks happened cannot rule out the possibility that the leaks happened on the other side of the atlantic. whatever happened if it impedes the investigation in a nyway if it impedes the investigation in anyway or in danger is that it is totally u na cce pta ble. anyway or in danger is that it is totally unacceptable. why would someone totally unacceptable. why would someone leek it when the investigation is still in such early stages? what is someone trying to achieve by that? it is a very difficult question to answer. it may boil down to personal relationship between the person who leaked it and
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the reporter who got the material. it is hard to understand. there are lots of reasons for lots of kinds of lea ks. lots of reasons for lots of kinds of leaks. it lots of reasons for lots of kinds of lea ks. it is lots of reasons for lots of kinds of leaks. it is easy to understand why intelligence officials who were appalled that president trump had lea ked appalled that president trump had leaked extremely sensitive information about operations inside of isis controlled territory, that could be leaked to show how dangerous the situation had become in the oval office. in this particular one my guess is it was someone particular one my guess is it was someone lower in the food chain who probably has not brought —— thought through the implications of what they were doing. i do not have a good answer. does this damage relations between the us and the uk for some time? what are the ramifications in your opinion?m
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for some time? what are the ramifications in your opinion? it is obviously not good for the relationship. 0ur relationship in intelligence and law enforcement and diplomacy is so intimate it is hard to imagine as going on or having a major breach in the near—term and as frank gardner pointed out this is manchester police with holding. the usa as i am sure an integral part of the global search for any network that might have supported the manchester, and it would not be in the uk's interest to have the us out of that action, that search. this is the kind of shot across the bow that is meant to send a warning that things have to tighten up. it would ta ke things have to tighten up. it would take repeated problems to have a large breach and that would be
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unthinkable and it is important to both sides, it would spark a large—scale investigation to identify the problem. theresa may digit to meet donald trump certainly within the next 2a hours and discuss. presumably donald trump is going to say i did not do it and i am not very happy either. how is that conversation going to go?” think that is going to be an important conversation but largely symbolic and the real work will have to go on inside the various agencies in the us in which this material is being handled and there will be m essa g es being handled and there will be messages going out from the directors of the different agencies indicating that this has to stop and what will probably happen is that the information itself regarding the
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investigation, the worldwide search for leeds, will be held in a narrower circle for starters to restrict the possibility of curtail the possibility of further leaks. i am sure the professionals and are intelligent and law enforcement communities will be taking this very seriously. iq. that meeting that i mentioned between theresa may and donald trump might happen in brussels. there is a needle going on there. we can join brussels. there is a needle going on there. we canjoin our defence correspondent. to what extent will this figure in conversations where you are? 0r this figure in conversations where you are? or is it very much an issue between those two countries, the us and the uk? we still do not know whether that meeting will happen
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here. the likelihood is that will happen when they move on to sicily as part of the g7 discussions that will go between the leaders of the industrialised group of nations. donald trump has just arrived at this new headquarters behind me, a major building that has cost £1.2 billion. he likes property and his country has contributed 22% of that cost. theresa may arrived earlier and gave a brief statement as she arrived saying, stressing the importance of what she called the special relationship, the importance of the deepest defence and security relationship, she said it was the partnership built on trust and the importance was knowing it will be shared ina importance was knowing it will be shared in a secure way. i think that probably will be as strong as we get from theresa may. she does not want to start a row with the us president and neither will the us president wa nt to and neither will the us president want to have a row with her. we have
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already had an acknowledgement from us officials they are concerned about what has happened. they realise it was harmful, it was not what should have happened. but that intelligence relationship between those two is very important. that meeting probably will take place we think tomorrow at the g7. they may brush shoulders, theresa may and donald trump, and what we might see in terms of choreography is that angela merkel will come out with the head of nato and they will unveil with the other leaders present a memorial which has a piece of the berlin wall symbolising the end of the cold war, the important role nato played in that, and then donald trump will unveil another memorial which includes twisted metalfrom the twin towers, from 9/11. that is the twin towers, from 9/11. that is the only time the alliance has declared article 5, that they will come to be of a country under
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attack. the first and last time that has happened for the us. donald trump has in the past expressed doubts about the relationship with nato. it is going to be an important moment as far as nato is concerned that he is backing what the alliance stands for. we will probably hear a few words from him but there will be no questions and answers though it will be a fairly brief statement. we may have to wait some time to get a readout of what that meeting is going to have between theresa may and the us president. clearly a lot more to come from brussels. i think we might hear more from donald trump in the next few minutes. returning to manchester. we have been talking about the updates
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from the health authorities in terms of the number of people, some of whom were seriously injured on monday night. we can go to our correspondent who is at one of the local hospitals, some sobering thoughts in terms of the injuries that some people have sustained from that update. that is right. the professor, the medical director at the trust here, he is at the site which covers the children's hospital and the infirmary behind me, he confirmed those numbers, 1a children are still being treated in hospital and five are in critical care. 18 adults are still being treated in hospital and five of those are in critical care. that doesn't mean they are critically ill, but that is where they are being treated and cared for at the moment. the medical director
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expressed his heartfelt sympathies to the families affected by this attack. heels are explained that many of these injuries will be life changing —— he also explained. he said the staff are practised and well trained for this scenario and thatis well trained for this scenario and that is something we heard when the queen was speaking to staff at the hospital. whether it was the person in the control room, the paramedic, all of them said they had rehearsed this and they felt that in reality it meant that they could react well. the medical director said he was enormously proud of all of his staff and he said they shared care and compassion and skill, and we have heard how people who were not on duty on monday night turned up a nyway duty on monday night turned up anyway because they wanted to help. the trust said it was so overwhelmed they had to turn staff away and send them back home because they were concerned how they might cover the rotor for the rest of the week. people from other trusts who
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happened to be in manchester on monday night and on tuesday, they also offered their services. collea g u es also offered their services. colleagues were coming and bringing food for members of staff and bob pearson, professor, he said he thanked them from the bottom of his heart. he also said staff were getting support in the aftermath of the manchester bombing, because what they experienced will have a profound affect on them and he said that was being offered to them at the hospital. the latest update from manchester royal infirmary and the royal children's hospital here, but 14 royal children's hospital here, but 1a children under the age of 16 are still being treated and five are in critical care, 18 adults are also being treated and five of those are in critical care, as well. fiona, thanks forjoining us. we can return to brussels. we were talking to our
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defence correspondent. there is a degree of diplomatic activity there at the moment. the nato leaders are about to unveil these memorials, one isa about to unveil these memorials, one is a 9/11 memorial and anotherfor the berlin wall which will be unveiled by the german chancellor angela merkel. we have the first comments on donald trump about the leaking of that information concerning the manchester bombings. this is from the white house which is travelling with the president which says the president says the alleged leaks are deeply troubling, and these links have been going on for a long time and he says his administration will get to the bottom of this. he says it is a grave threat to their security and they are asking to launch a complete review of this matter. he stresses
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the importance of the relationship that theresa may was talking about, saying, be stating it, essentially, the president saying there is no more important relationship than that with the united kingdom —— restating it. that was the first reaction we have had from donald trump to the leaking of the intelligence in the us media. donald trump condemning that leak. there will be a meeting between theresa may and donald trump and at the moment it is angela merkel who is speaking outside nato headquarters who will unveil the first of those memorials. we will hear from who will unveil the first of those memorials. we will hearfrom her and the secretary—general of nato and then from donald trump. we don't expect him in these marks to comment on the leaking of that information. these are remarks focused on the unveiling of that memorial, the 9/11
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memorial, and the importance of that, that was the only time that the data alliance has declared article five which is what they do when they come to the defence, all nations come to the defence of one nations come to the defence of one nation under attack —— that was the only time that the nato alliance has the glad article five. angela merkel is speaking, as i said, but we will hear from donald trump. thanks. we will be back there later in brussels. the focus here in manchester and across the uk was on a one—minute silence which was held this morning. a thousand people probably work in in manchester, —— probably work in in manchester, —— probably a thousand people were in manchester for the minute silence. 0ur correspondent has more. remembering the children,
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teenagers, mothers, fathers, relatives and friends who lost their lives. a nation united in silence. bell chimes trumpets play as we come from different faiths, different traditions, different cultures, we come as one to declare that we are manchester and we will continue to be that manchester, and so we ask your blessing upon this time and we ask for your love and support on those
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who suffer, that they will know that, above all, lies the everlasting arms of god. the applause in st ann's square in manchester lasted for a minute more after the silence. we are manchester through and through, and we wanted to make sure that we were here today to show the people of manchester that we not only stand with you, we are part of you and we are with you. when something really bad happens, everybody needs to just stick together and do what they can for everybody who's affected, and ijust can't imagine what they are going through. my daughter spent last night crying because she was so fearful of what might happen next. so i came for several reasons. i came to show my children that we are here notjust to grieve but to celebrate, to celebrate what is in the hearts of our nation and our people. so many people didn't return home on monday evening. they will not be forgotten.
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sarah campbell, bbc news. we are going to return to brussels because donald trump is speaking. with you and stand with you, i was like to ask that we now observe a moment of silence for the victims and families of the savage attack which took place in manchester. thank you. terrible thing. this
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ceremony is a date for both remembrance and resolve. we remember and mourn those nearly 3000 innocent people who were brutally murdered by terrorists on september 11, 2001. 0ur nato allies responded swiftly and decisively, invoking for the first time the article five collective defence commitments. the recent attack on manchester in the united kingdom demonstrates the depths of the evil we face with terrorism. innocent little girls and so terrorism. innocent little girls and so many others were horribly murdered and badly injured while attending a concert, beautiful lives with so much great potential, torn from theirfamilies with so much great potential, torn from their families for ever and ever. it was a barbaric and vicious
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attack upon our civilisation. all people who cherish life must unite infinding and people who cherish life must unite in finding and exposing and removing these killers and extremists. and, yes, losers, they are losers. wherever they in our societies, we must drive them out and never ever let them back in. this call for driving at terrorism is a message i took to a historic gathering of arab and muslim leaders across the region. hosted by saudi arabia. i spent much time there with king solomon, a wise man, who would like to see things get much better barbecue. —— much better rapidly.
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the leaders of the middle east agreed at this unprecedented meeting to stop funding the radical ideology that leads to this horrible terrorism all over the globe. my travels and meetings had given me renewed hope that nations of many faiths can unite to defeat terrorism, a common threat to all of humanity. terrorism must be stopped in its tracks or the horror that you saw it manchester and so many other places will continue forever. you have thousands and thousands of people pouring into our various countries and spreading throughout and in many cases we have no idea who they are. we must be tough and strong and we must be vigilant. the
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nato of the future must include a great focus on terrorism and immigration. as well as threats from russia and nato's eastern and southern borders, these grave security concerns are the same reason that i have been very very direct with members of the alliance in saying that nato members must finally contribute their fair share and meet their financial obligations. but 23 of the 28 member nations are still not paying what they should be paying and what they are supposed to be paying for their defence. this is not fair to the people and taxpayers of the united states. and many of these nations on
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massive amounts for past years —— owe. the united states has paid more for defence than all other nato members combined. full nato members had spent 2% of their gdp on defence last year we would have had another $190 billion for our collective defence and for the financing of additional nato reserves. —— if all nato members had spent. with these chronic underpayments, and these growing threats, even 2% of gdp is insufficient to close the gaps in modernising and readiness and the size of forces. we have to make up for the many years lost. 2% is the bare minimum for confronting today's
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very real and very vicious threats. if nato countries made their com plete if nato countries made their complete contributions, nato would be even stronger than it is today, especially from the threat of terrorism. 1 want to extend my appreciation to the 9/11 museum and memorial in new york for contributing this member —— remnant of the knot tower, and angela merkel and the german people for donating this portion of the berlin wall —— the north tower. it is fitting that these two artefacts now reside so closely together at the new nato headquarters. and i never asked once, what the new nato headquarters
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cost. i refuse to do that, but it is beautiful. each one marks a pivotal eventin beautiful. each one marks a pivotal event in the history of this alliance and in the eternal battle between good and evil. 0n alliance and in the eternal battle between good and evil. on one side a testa m e nt to between good and evil. on one side a testament to the triumph of our ideals over eight italia tearing communist ideology, bent on the oppression of millions and millions of people —— ideals of a totalitarian communist ideology. 0n the other hand, the evils that still exist in the world and that we must confront and defeat together as a group. asa confront and defeat together as a group. as a world. this twisted mass of metal reminds us of not only what we have lost but also what for ever continues, the courage of our people and the strength of our resolve and the commitments that bind us together as one. we will never
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forget the lives that were lost and we we re forget the lives that were lost and we were never forsake the friends who stood by our side. we will never waver in our determination to defeat terrorism and to achieve lasting security and prosperity and peace. thank you very much. it is a great honour to be here. thank you. applause studio: stud10: donald trump, the fairing to the —— the fairing to the extremists who —— the fairing to the extremists who —— the fairing to the extremists who attacked manchester, but also talking about the contribution of nato members. your initial thoughts, jonathan? the first thing, there was
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that moment where donald trump asked for a silence to remember the victims of the manchester attack and he had strong words about what happened using words like evil and barbaric and vicious, repeating what he said in the middle east, we must drive the people out. that was a surprise, not something we thought would be mentioned. because this was him and failing a statue that commemorated the attacks on 9/11 —— this was him unveiling. and then stressing the importance of nato in tackling terrorism. it sounded like he was going off script because his words were very strong. a lecture essentially to nato countries on the need to spend more on defence. saying there was a chronic underpayments, saying that 2% targets of national income that countries should pay was a bare minimum. that could have been seen
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as much as a rebuke to the uk as other countries but he also highlighted the fact that only five countries including the uk are paying that 2% at the moment. a very stern message from donald trump. clearly in tune with the leaders about what has happened in manchester, but not in tune with what he is saying about their contribution. essentially what nato is about. he mentioned russia and terrorism, but he spoke about immigration and he defended his own policy of trying to limit the people coming in from certain countries. there was controversy, as well, but i think this will be a speech that we have got to digests. important comments about manchester and nato's role at this critical time when people are getting to terms with what has happened in manchester. thanks forjoining us. we will talk
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more about that ongoing investigation and the leak we have been referencing, as well, out of the united states. we can have the thoughts of chris horrocks, a police officerfor 17 thoughts of chris horrocks, a police officer for 17 years with greater manchester. in terms of the leaks, how damaging in your opinion is that? when a police force is in the early stages and is trying to amass such a crucial information. one of the first things you learn is about the first things you learn is about the importance of securing evidence and preventing the tampering of the evidence and making sure the evidence and making sure the evidence chain remains intact until the prosecution proceedings. this is unbelievable. the 21st—century, we area unbelievable. the 21st—century, we are a trusted ally who are supposed
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to be the leaders in the world of intelligence, and if it proves that it has come from them, they have created a dreadful problem for the investigation team. it was the revealing of his name that was the more problematic element? it seems that greater manchester police had wa nted that greater manchester police had wanted to keep that quiet for a bit longer? absolutely. at the time of the initial investigation, starting off, it will have been treated as a major incident and then very quickly that will have been moved up scale toa that will have been moved up scale to a terrorist major incident involving counterterrorism. because of that you don't want to be giving any hint of who you are looking for because otherwise they will be out of the country in no time, hence why they have a golden hour period, the first 211 hours and they are absolutely key to the investigation. that is about finding associates?
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yes, and house searches, and the element of surprise, seizing hard drives are mobile phones, internet, and if this bomber, and i when say his name, iwon't do that for the people of manchester, —— i won't say his name. he has been trained to a high level and if he has gone to libya in one had military style training —— he will have had military style training. he is a fit young man. extreme measures will have many related his mind, and his actions have led to a lot of evidence along the way and so the police had got to reverse the process and look at the enquiries they need to make that investigation, to secure that investigation, to secure that investigation, to secure that investigation, to prepare a prosecution with the other offenders who are now out there. a final
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thought, you are manchester born and bred? yes, i am. i could not begin to count how may people have come out here today, very quiet and respectful, lots of tears, your thoughts on the impact on this city? mancunians like to bestow it, —— like to be stoic, stick your chin out. it is our city, it has rocked us dreadfully, but the passion, the remembrance of those victims, that is forefront in our mind about and no terrorist is going to make manchester collapse. chris horrocks, thanks. he spent 17 years with the greater manchester police. we will have much more from here at the top of the hour. back to you. stud10: thanks forjoining us.
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net migration to the uk fell by a quarter to 248,000 in 2016 — driven by an increase in eu citizens leaving the country. figures published by the office for national statistics show a statistically significant increase in emigration, and in particular, a 36% increase in eu citizens leaving — compared with 2015. we can now speak to rob mcneil, communications director with 0xford university's migration 0bservatory. after the brexit vote, with concerns about the state of eu citizens, should we be surprised? not entirely surprised. there are a number of things which have happened which have contributed to the desire for people to leave the country or not come here in the first place. 0ne people to leave the country or not come here in the first place. one of which is the collapse in the value of the pound and for many people coming from what we call the eight countries which were key in the decline in net migration, we... the czech republic, the old eastern
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european countries? the biggest of these countries is poland but they also have the czech republic, latvia and lithuania, slovakia, slovenia, hungary. there are eight countries in total. they have been important in the reduction of net migration we have seen today. we have seen small reductions in net migration and that group, that is the lowest it has been since 2004, net migration. the drop in the value of the pound and the continued uncertainty about the status of eu citizens, following brexit, that is likely to have had a significant impact. there is the phrase that one keeps hearing, tens of thousands, a phrase people talk about, and even given the remarkable figures here, that is a long way off. it is a very long way. the
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thing to remember, with the migration from the group that has been a major focus migration from the group that has been a majorfocus because migration from the group that has been a major focus because of the fa ct been a major focus because of the fact that we can't control eu migration while we are members of the eu, these are the people most likely to be low skilled workers within that group, that group is now effectively zero and the data suggests it could even be negative, more people leaving them arriving from those countries. and it's definitely a significant change, yes. it gives the lie to any claim that we can control immigration. because we are looking figures that don'tjust because we are looking figures that don't just affect eu because we are looking figures that don'tjust affect eu citizens. of course. we have net migration of 170,000 of non—eu people. and even with the eu people, we have a situation where we are still along the way away from the net migration target. —— still a long way away.
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thanks forjoining us. we will be backin thanks forjoining us. we will be back in manchester very shortly. time for a look at the weather fine settled weather at the moment, but strong sunshine if you are out there any length of time. it is very hot and oppressive. you can see the extent of the sunshine, we had a bit of cloud, low cloud. that will clear away this evening. it will be fine and dryfor away this evening. it will be fine and dry for the foreseeable future until tomorrow evening and then things start to change was dubbed some of the weather pictures that we have had coming in, please send them in, barelya have had coming in, please send them in, barely a cloud have had coming in, please send them in, barelya cloud in have had coming in, please send them in, barely a cloud in the sky, scotla nd in, barely a cloud in the sky, scotland and aberystwyth. that is the way it will stay throughout the remainder of the day. some foggy weather in the north sea, and it may just drift close to the coastlines
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of north—east scotland and the northern isles, some of it close to the western isles, but the most notable the western isles, but the most nota ble feature the western isles, but the most notable feature will be how mild it is an increasingly muggy, in the coming few nights. tamara, very similar, a bit more breeze around —— tomorrow. that will allow the coast tomorrow. that will allow the coast to see some very high temperatures, 27 already in the highlands, we could see more tomorrow, 28. we're now getting into the 80s fahrenheit in some parts of northern ireland, very high temperatures, and also the north of wales. southern and eastern coasts could have some very high temperatures, it will feel very heart. the strongest sunshine, across england and wales. through friday evening and overnight, we start to see the first sign of the change. it is the band of rain, the breakdown in the heat and that will
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culminate in big thunderstorms and it could be severe at times. probably central and northern england, possibly scotland and northern ireland, with such a lot of heat and energy in the atmosphere and there could be problems with flash flooding. into sunday, by the time of those have blown away, there will be a reduction in the south, still some muggy weather, the bank holiday monday, further heavy showers, because of the heat and humidity remaining in the south, but it will be as warm and dry further north. it will be fresher, but still sunshine. there is more on the website. this is bbc news. i'm jane hill live in manchester. the headlines at 4pm: the queen visits royal manchester children's hospital. she met children caught in the manchester attack and the staff who worked to save them. very wicked. to target that sort of thing...
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it is awful. a minute's silence is held across the uk in memory of the 22 people who were killed in the bombing. central manchester hospitals trust say here are 32 patients still in hospital, ten of whom are in a critical condition, five children and five adults. president donald trump has said the us leaks of evidence relating to the manchester bombing are "deeply troubling" and has vowed "to get to the bottom of this".
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