tv Nicks Election Takeaways BBC News May 28, 2017 10:30am-11:01am BST
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british airways warns of delays and cancellations following a global computer failure which saw all flights cancelled. the company says customers should not come to the airport unless they have a confirmed booking. tributes have been paid to two passengers killed on an american train, trying to defend two women from anti—muslim abuse — a man has been arrested. # but back home you'll always run # to sweet melissa... # and the american rock musician greg allman has died. he was a star in the late ‘60s group the allman brothers band. the 69—year—old had struggled with a number of health issues. now on bbc news, it's time for the final edition of our special series nick's election takeaways. on monday, the bbc‘s nick robinson shared fish and chips with voters in eltham, southeast london. the group, selected by the pollsters ipsos mori, represent some of those who are "just about managing", otherwise known as the jams. the people who are in work but
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still struggle to make ends meet, to pay those bills at the end of the week. how will they make up their minds how to vote? we've come to the suburbs of south london to find out. well, it's fish and chips for the latest of my election takeaways. we are in the south suburbs of london with a group of voters who are going to tell us how they are making up their minds who to back at the election. just to start us off, what issues in this area, before we talk about the country, what things all thinking about when you think of who to vote for? when you are concerned about this area, what are the things that are bothering you, making you make up your minds? the thing i'm worried about is the school dinners. we've had the milk taken, and now they are going to take
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the school meals and something about the breakfast. my child has breakfast before she goes to school. how old is your daughter? she's 12 now. and she gets a free school lunch? yes, her lunch and dinners. so if they take that away... i think for me it has to be health care. if we looking at most of the services we get at the moment, take away some of the gps, it was easy to get an appointment to go to the gp. ring up in the morning, you know when you want to go and see them. now, it's "what's wrong with you? 0k, call back at 8am." you ring back at 8am, you can't get through. and when you do get through, you get an appointment at 10:30, but you've got to go to work. there's no way round it. 0r you've missed it. it's a lot harder now to see a gp. we are overstretching accident and emergencies. so having to take myself up to a&e which could be looked at by my gp. i work in a school, and i have concerns about the school dinners
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which we'll come to later on. but i also coach at a scheme in stoke newington. one of the biggest things locally is the knife epidemic which is very worrying. whichever party comes in, wins, have to have something steel cast in place to combat that, because it's a problem. i work a lot with young children, an academy school in south london, it's a real problem. my head of year spends 60% of her time dealing with social—media issues which then spill over into the classrooms, the playground, into the street, so it's an issue. social media, people losing their temper with each other, picking fights? it is where it starts. online bullying. when i was at school, many years ago, the bullying started at nine and finished at three. nowadays, with social media, it's 2a—7. it doesn't stop. it gets worse and worse. the generation that is coming through lives their lives through a screen, through social media. are you watching the election much at the moment? bits and pieces. promises that they never follow through with. u—turns. a bit sceptical? yes.
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do you tune in? i do. i listen keenly, because i like to hold people accountable, so i will listen to what you've got to say. that's fine. when the time comes, if you implement those policies and then if you don't, i've got a starting point to say well, "well, you did say this in the beginning." the lib dems with the tuition fees cuts. that upset me, even though i was past the student stage, i was fortunate enough to get through before this happened, i thought it was a little bit deceitful of them to make such a policy and then do such a u—turn on it. i think, day by day, it gathers momentum. i think today you see theresa may, for the first time, start to buckle a little bit under pressure.
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also, a couple of weeks back, you had diane abbott in that radio interview... i found it embarrassing listening to that, you know. you all said yes! she got her figures so wrong. did you just think somebody has had a bad day? there is no concrete foundation to what they are saying. they are coming in with these wonderful ideas, hooks to get people engaged, but in actual fact they have not thought it through. i looked today and they are talking about tuition fees. how on earth are they going to pay for this? more students than ever wanting people to go to university. blair in 1997 wanted 50% of students to go to university. way too many, that people are going. how are they going to afford this? where is it going to come out from? i want to start the wider conversation a bit byjust asking a little bit about you. if you had to describe how you were, how you were doing in your family, does it feel like it's pretty easy at the moment? things are good, we are in work, things are comfortable, you are shaking your head?
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struggling. every single month, you are constantly thinking can i afford £20 on my oyster card, £10 on my oyster card if you want to go out for the evening. can i afford this? even when you do the weekly shopping, it comes up to over £100, you are thinking, can something give? you are always plate—spinning. that's what i call it. simple as that. you constantly got multiple financial plates on the go, and you are just balancing. what do you do, alex? i'm a teacher. you're a teacher? you're on not a bad salary? in london, no. i get home at six at night, having got up at 4:30 in the morning. is it tough times, danielle? i work for the local government. you would say it was a good salary, and a single mum. childcare costs are joke.
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i'm lucky that i'm coming back out of that. if i was thinking about having another child at any time... the childcare costs alone, they are three times a mortgage price almost. i think the problem with salaries of local government, teachers, they haven't stayed in the bracket of the increase of what the cost of living has. what about for you ? i am struggling every year. i have three children. it's with the same for me at the end of the year. you have to take out a loan, an overdraft. what do you do?
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security officer. i can't really give my kids 100%. i have to struggle to make them happy. you have to start telling them stories, rosy stories. is that for everyday things? if they want something, and i don't have the money, i have to tell them next week. had you heard this phrase, "just about managing" ? yes. is that you? yes. i feel blessed sometimes, though, because i wouldn't be able to afford my house now.
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it has nearly doubled in value. we are managing, and if some people are worrying about how to feed their children, food banks, it makes you think well, there is a whole world is under this that struggling even more. we chose you because you are alljams. it's notjust coincidence. or ipsos mori chose you! you become more resourceful — if you want to go to the football, the cinema or music or the theatre, you think to yourself, "how can i do it on the budget?" you might think, "can i get half price tickets?" who is doing all right? you! me?! mps! you are only jealous
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because i've got a pickled onion! we have had no pay rises that mps have. all the scandals, the public scandals. it's at the top. i asked you about that phrase, jams. if you know you for certain who is, don't say. do you know who said it? who said that phrase? churchill. jeremy corbyn. if it was him, i would be pleased. i agree.
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theresa may. no way! isn't that interesting? she said that these were the people she wanted to help. really? who does she think they are? talk is cheap, she'll sit round this dinner table with her cronies, and they will tell you that they are just about managing with their two houses in their 160 grand cars that we are paying for! why are they taking the school dinners away, then? that's contradicting yourself there, isn't it? it seems like a race to the bottom in so many areas. i got a friend who is an uber taxi driver. the tax system discourages people from working because the more you work, the more they tax.
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when i sit down in my house, some people are ready to work, but when you think about it, the tax doesn't feel fair. it doesn't feel fair. they should be encouraging people to work. if you want people to work, the less the tax. if you are trying to balance the books each month, do the right thing, working 55—60 hours per week, all of a sudden, you are worse off. it doesn't make sense. it's like quicksand. the more you try, the harder it is to make ends meet. are you hearing anything from any of the leaders that makes you think they kind of get it? i think the nationalisation
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of railways byjeremy corbyn is something good. every year, the fares have been going up, i can't get a seat, and sometimes you couldn't even get on your train, in my head i used to think, ijust want this nationalised, and then it got privatised, and it has gone down since. he reminds me of a normal person. he would sit around this table with us. i couldn't see myself eating fish and chips with theresa may, but i could withjeremy corbyn. i could say to him, here is my spreadsheet. i would ask him how he could help me. i think his demeanour tells me that he would ask us how we wanted things to be, so if labour came back in, i think before they start doing,
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they might start asking a bit more. i don't think he has leadership credentials. i can't put my finger on it. don't you admire his honesty, though? what is honest? he is honest. he lives by a lot of the things he believes in. whether he's a good leader is another matter, but he lives by what he believes. is that the test you set for a prime minister? it needs to be someone you can relate to, warm up to and believe what they are selling you. it's like a sales pitch — who are you going to go for? i believe him but i felt let down by brexit, i felt like he hid, he disappeared. what have you heard
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from corbyn so far, other than nationalisation of the railways? tuition fees, although it seemed unbelievable by september that you could get through it. that would be good. i got three children, three girls. they all want to go to college. the fees are so high that we are not in a position that i could help them as much as i want to. do you think he can do it? i hope so. it's like i say, you vote for them, and you can never tell. i think mathematically
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it is possible. my only problem is that, in order to do that, does that mean that the student loans are going to go up so that cost of paying it back is going to go up? it's taken me a while to pay that back, so i'm wondering if you're going to subsidise in one area, if you reduce somewhere, then something else has to increase. i would like for the nhs to get back to normal, giving nurses a chance. pay in the nhs? yes, nurses are not being appreciated. they need a pay rise? yes. i think the police, with the climate, we need more police. who is more honest with you?
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it's looking like jeremy, to be honest. i won't lie, i liked theresa may at first, in terms of the iron fist of margaret thatcher although she destroyed everything... i tend to gear towards strong people, and i did like theresa at first, but there are too many things that make me think, "you called this election, why did you do that?" what about promises that the tories have made to help you out? everything she says puts me off further and further. they are going through the best for britain with the negotiations for brexit, but we don't know.
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she's been singing the immigration song for many years. nothing personally? capping the price of energy? we've heard that before. we've been hearing that for years. petrol is going to be capped... it never does. i like the idea, obviously. it sounds good, but is it going to happen? that's one of the more obvious points you can rule out. anyone with half a brain cell would know that we're talking about private companies. since when did anything work telling private companies what to do? it's never worked. the rail system, it hasn't worked. the government have tried and tried and tried to intervene, but they are private companies so they've failed.
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has anybody not voted labour? i wish i had. i've always voted labour. corbyn is not really for me, massively. i would pick the woman, if it wasjust man or woman. it's the policies, between the two. we vote every four years — we should be voting every 14 years, by the time we look at education again, we have to get the people out, the policy in, by the time you're done, the four years is up. you vote for cameron, you don't like corbyn. i don't mind him but...
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i'm thinking of voting labour. the change of policies. how much will they try and pull over people's eyes? what will tomorrow's story be? they keep changing on a daily basis. who thingsjeremy corbyn will be our next prime minister? i'd like to hope... nobody said yes. i think it will be closer than people think. i'll bet you this pickled onion. i hope we go into a coalition with labour leading. who thinks theresa may will win? i think she will win. anybody likes of what they are with
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theresa may? when theresa may came in, i thought "girl power". i thought she was on the money, but for me now, it's a trust issue. she's done a lot of backtracking. can i trust her? she's lied about the snap election. then she turns around, can you trust someone like that? you need someone around you to advise you before you speak. are they sitting down before they make these announcements? what's the general thinking? that is what i would like to know. it is enough to change your mind? i was sitting on the fence, but now i think i know exactly what i'm going to do. but could you change your mind again? i was genuinely sitting on the fence for a while,
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but now i'm 100% aware of what i'm going to do. which is? i'm not telling. what words would you apply to theresa may? i don't think she's stable. flaky. rattled! untrustworthy. professional. when i lookjohn major, everyone slated him. but i think theresa may has the country's best interests at heart. i think she has been found out, though. i see your point, though, i've never looked at it like before.
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she's not particularly flash. do you mean that as a compliment? yes, yeah. not a big flashy pr machine. not like borisjohnson. if he was there, forget it. not for me. i think she's straight down the line. i think she knows what she wants. and for me, that's going a long way. i worked in the police when she was home secretary, and she just used to push things through. she will stick to things, and that scares me. why is it might make her a good negotiator? it may be good for brexit, but in other aspects,
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she could be a bit softer, things like the nhs, see the bigger picture rather thanjust her road map for success. one last question. a lot of you likejeremy corbyn. is there anything that makes you worry about him? not really. the only grey area with him and the labour party is they just have to get their maths right. i'm not talking about the diane abbott thing, i'm talking about in general. if you are going to say what you are going to say, then you need to demonstrate where this will come from and how you think you will get this back. you need to know the numbers? that's all it is. will he get the brexit deal right for us if he goes into power? why might he not? i felt like he disappeared
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when it was kicking off, he disappeared. there was nothing to see that he was putting his back into it. he wasn't there for me. would theresa may be good in most brexit negotiations? she's doing her best, but she's stubborn. one or two words for him, not sentences. maverick. friendly. honest. genuine. trusting. perfect! perfect? intersting.
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gut feeling. that's what you feel good about. very good. thank you all very much for being here. time to finish off the pickled onion. hello there. it's been a fairly quiet weather morning across the uk. storms moving across from the channel, in devon things are fairly bright, but you can see how the cloud is thickening across the south—west, over the channel, cloud is thickening across the south—west, overthe channel, now some thunderstorms dotted around the channel islands. across the
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north—east of the uk, very warm over the past few days, a cool northwesterly breeze, a lot of recently around the moray firth. this is where the main weather event is going to be happening, he storms, areas are moving northwards from the channel to primarily focused this afternoon on the south—west of england. to the north, generally dry, skies brightening in scotland, temperatures 10 degrees lower than yesterday around the moray firth, around 19 or so in the central belt, not far behind across northern ireland. warm across england and wales with sunshine, gusty winds, clusters of downpours, hail, thunder and lightning moving up across the south—west, what not showers clipping the south—east of england, perhaps hit and miss here, the highest temperatures here, mid—20s. you can see the showers turning more widespread overnight, heavy rain
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likely, more in the way of thunderstorms across england and wales. light rain heading northwards into northern ireland, eventually southern scotland, a more co mforta ble southern scotland, a more comfortable night for sleeping in northern scotland, but rather uncomfortable across the south after the storms. they continue to rumble northwards through the midlands, up into northern england, turning wet across scotland. the rain eventually clearing northern ireland, but showers returning the midlands, that is, where we have got the highest temperatures and humid air tomorrow. but contrast that with what is happening in scotland under the rain, temperatures about 12—13 at best. that rain eventually clears overnight, and we will lose the showers, get more of a fresher feel. the weather starts to come in from the atlantic after monday, and with pressure sort of building across the uk, we should find, for a while, things turning quite a bit drier. it won't be as humid, it won't be muqqy' won't be as humid, it won't be muggy, we won't have the storms around as well, and there will be
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some sunshine, and it will feel warm in the sunshine. this is bbc news. i'm julian worricker. the headlines at 11am: british airways passengers face further disruption as the company warns of delays and cancellations, following a global computer failure. iam i am alive at heathrow airport were so far this morning around a third of bea's outgoing flights have been cancelled. the queues are beginning to grow again in terminal five. police release images of the manchester suicide bomber — and appeal to the public to help piece together his final movements. the conservatives and labour promise to do more to tackle the threat of terrorism, if they win the election. tributes to two passengers killed on an american train, trying to defend two women from anti—muslim abuse. also: the american rock musician gregg allman has died.
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