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this is bbc news. the headlines at 3.00pm: british airways chief executive says he's sorry about the disruption caused by a global computer meltdown but says he won't resign. we will make a full investigation exhaustive. we will find out exactly what happened and we will make sure this will never happen again. another man is arrested in connection with the manchester attack, bringing the total in custody to m. mi5 says it will review its procedures. visitors have been evacuated from brazil in cambridge amid reports of a serious incident. police and an airambulance a serious incident. police and an air ambulance have been seen at the scene. also this hour, tributes to the presenterjohn noakes, who's died aged 83. he was best known for as the face of blue peter with his dog shep, his family say he'll be greatly missed.
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the australian pensioner given a fright while fishing, when a great white shark leapt into his boat. a place in the premier league and a £170 million prize beckons for the winners of the championship play—off final, just getting under way between huddersfield town and reading. good afternoon and welcome to bbc news. the chief executive of british airways has said a power surge in a data centre at heathrow airport was behind the it failure which has caused disruption for thousands of passengers over the bank holiday weekend. in his first interview since the problems, alex cruz, said the computer failure had nothing to do with either redundancies at the airline or cost cutting.
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our business correspondent joe lynam reports. it is day three of the ba crisis. the queues no longer stretch outside the door and flights are taking off, but that doesn't mean the disruption is over, nor all the questions gone. it's just ridiculous. i know they are trying to accommodate us, but we had to call and book our own re—bookings. even though i already had a confirmed seat, i had to re—book my own seat, so it's pretty stressful. they could have done so much better. i work in it and they are blaming this on it problems. it's basic enterprise practice to have a disaster recovery solution. they should have had their communication system and their booking system in different places so they could at least send us an e—mail. just open a google mail account and send an e—mail. how hard is that? ba says it services from gatwick are back to normal, ba says its services from gatwick are back to normal, as are all long—haul flights from heathrow, but they concede that some disruption to short—haul flights,
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usually to continental europe, will continue today. the airline has faced mounting pressure to answer questions as to why this all happened. today, it gave its first interview. we are profusely, profusely apologetic about what has happened. we are very conscious of the hardship that many of our customers have had to go through. on saturday morning we did have a power surge in one of our data centres which affected the network and hardware which stopped messaging millions and millions of messages that come between all the different systems and applications within the ba network and affected all the operational systems — baggage, operations, passenger processing, etc. that is what provided the actual disruptions. mr cruz said he would not be resigning and would find out why the back—up systems had failed. the gmb union has blamed the outsourcing last year of it contracts to the indian company tata for the chaos on saturday — an accusation which mr cruz
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has vehemently denied. but ba will certainly have further questions to answer when the detail emerges of exactly what happened and whether corners were cut. let's cross live to heathrow and our correspondent nick quraishi. bring us up today on the situation for travellers with british airways today? things have eased. 13 short—haulflights today? things have eased. 13 short—haul flights have been cancelled between the hours of nine and one p.m.. so far this afternoon, things are much more smoothly. i think ba is trying to avoid what has been labelled by some, a pr disaster. alex cruz, the chief executive, up until now, up until today, has limited himself to the twitter feed describing things as a
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horrible time for passengers and understanding their trying experiences. many have said it is too little, too late. that is why he sat down and did this interview with oui’ sat down and did this interview with our transport correspondent, richard lescott. there was a problem on saturday, the extent of the actual disruption affected some of our communication systems. we couldn't send the most standard messages we send the most standard messages we send to customers when there is a particular delay. so on saturday it was a big problem. from late and saturday night, many messages were coming through. and on sunday, we we re coming through. and on sunday, we were able to reach out to most of the customers in an electronic way. yesterday and this morning i have been answering personal e—mails from passengers writing to me. i have set up passengers writing to me. i have set upa group passengers writing to me. i have set up a group of people who are helping me to answer some of
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up a group of people who are helping me to answer some of those e—mails. lam not me to answer some of those e—mails. i am not out of touch in terms of the personal drama many of the passengers have had to go through in this particular instance. all our efforts at the moment are aimed at making sure we address the needs of those passengers. we are trying our very best and we know we have found solutions for over two thirds of those passengers and by the end of the day they will be at their final destination and we are trying to address the needs of the remainder of the passengers. it is clear this will do financial harm to the company. some are talking there will be compensation of £150 million. and also reputational harm. 300,000 people, it is estimated have been affected by what has gone on over the weekend. just here but globally in what has been termed in the past as the world's favourite airline. thank you very much. let's dip in to theresa may's
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campaign in london. we know there is no safe way to vote labour. if you don't wantjeremy corbyn negotiating brexit, then you need to vote for local conservative candidates up and down the country. and we need the strong and stable leadership and government, to take us, as i say, not just through brexit, government, to take us, as i say, notjust through brexit, but beyond. brexit isn't just a notjust through brexit, but beyond. brexit isn'tjust a process. brexit is an opportunity. it is an opportunity for us to build a stronger and more prosperous britain. we are the party that has the plan and the vision to do just that. it is about, of course, getting the right deal abroad. it is about bringing back control of our
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laws, of money and control of our borders. getting that right deal, but it is also about securing new deals for trade, british goods and services around the world. it is about leading the world in working against terrorism. it is about making britain the strongest and most secure place to be in europe. and it is about what we do here at home and the opportunities we provide for ordinary working families up and down the country. it is about ensuring we continue to work to bring immigration, net migration down to sustainable levels of the tens of thousands. because if immigration is too high and too fast, it makes it difficult to build a cohesive society. it is about ensuring we are providing more people with the opportunity of their own home to building more affordable homes. it is about ensuring we have a strong economy, providing i°b5 homes. it is about ensuring we have a strong economy, providing jobs to
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people and we are keeping that prosperity, not just in people and we are keeping that prosperity, notjust in certain parts of the country, but seeing prosperity across the whole of the country and that is what our modern industrial strategy is designed to do. it is about ensuring people see more pay with a higher national living wage and real protections, better protections for workers. it is about ensuring every child has a good school plays, we have record funding going into our schools. and really high—quality technical education for young people, for the first time in this country. about ensuring our economy is strong enough to fund those public services, to fund the national health service, putting at least £8 billion extra into the nhs and having the biggest, the biggest expenditure, the biggest programme for buildings and technology in the nhs the country has ever seen. it is about ensuring that we are standing up about ensuring that we are standing up to the extremists who try to
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divide our society. and it is about standing up and dealing with, the burning injustice as we see in this country. because those injustices remaina scaron country. because those injustices remain a scar on the soul of our nation. it is about ensuring we don't see discrimination on the basis of race, gender or of other factors. it is about dealing with those injustices. it is this party that has the plan and the vision to go forward and to provide that strong and more prosperous britain for the future. and as i look ahead, i recognise that i think that is a plan around which people will come together. come together with a unity of purpose to deliver brexit and make a success of it. come together with a unity of purpose to build a stronger britain for the future with more opportunities in the future. come together, recognising the importance of the choice people face
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onjune importance of the choice people face on june the 8th importance of the choice people face onjune the 8th on election day. and asi onjune the 8th on election day. and as i said, i think that choice is very simple. it is whether people wa nt very simple. it is whether people want the strong and stable leadership that will build a better future for this country. 0r leadership that will build a better future for this country. or a coalition of chaos led byjeremy corbyn, propped up by the lib dems and the snp. so i am offering myself as prime minister, with the resolute determination to get on with brexit and makea determination to get on with brexit and make a success of it. with the optimism that we can get the best possible dealfor optimism that we can get the best possible deal for everyone across this country. and with that determination to build but better future and the vision of a stronger, more prosperous britain. we have the vision, we have the plan and i believe we have the will and determination to put it through. but of course, only the people can give me the mandate. so, as people go to
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vote on june the me the mandate. so, as people go to vote onjune the 8th, i say they face a crucial choice. who do they wa nt to face a crucial choice. who do they want to see leading this country in those brexit negotiations? who do they want to see leading this country into the future? i have the vision, i have the plan and i have the determination to do it. but only they can give me the mandate. so, i am backing ordinary working people across this country. i ask you to give me your backing, give me the backing to lead for britain. give me the authority to speak for britain, strengthen my hand as i fight for britain. and give me your backing andi britain. and give me your backing and i will deliver for britain. and give me your backing and i will deliverfor britain. applause the prime minister theresa may, in twickenham. returning to the brexit theme as she
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returns to the campaign after inevitably the tragic events in manchester last week meant the political campaigning was postponed for a few days. and prior to is cutting two that she did say brexit negotiations, were she to win, would start 11 day after the uk'sjunior eighth election. more election to come throughout the afternoon here on bbc news. emergency services have been called to what they have described to a zoo in cambridgeshire. visitors have been evacuated, and an air ambulance is at the scene of the 25—acre wildlife park near huntingdon. the zoo is home to 500 animals, including a collection of malaysian and white tigers. with me our correspondent andy moore. as you say, from cambridgeshire police we have a posting, we were
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called around 11:15am to a serious incident at hamerton park. the ambulance attended and ambulances. i have seen pictures of the ambulance. i have seen pictures on social media of police vehicles turning up, police officers with dogs at the scene. there are widespread rumours on social media about tiger being on the loose. i have spoken briefly to the loose. i have spoken briefly to the zoo and the woman who answered the zoo and the woman who answered the phone, i asked if she could tell me what was happening and she said she was not at liberty to say. she said there would be a press release in the day. i said, there are rumours tiger is on the loose. and she replied very firmly, at tiger is not on the loose. that doesn't mean that at some stage tiger wasn't running around and has now been
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recaptured. it doesn't mean this incident may have involved a tiger in some way. we don't know. we have to be aware of fake postings on social media. but there is quite a lot of noise referring to an animal involved in some way or another. we know there is a tiger enclosure here and that is the most dangerous animal that seems to be at the zoo, animal that seems to be at the zoo, a tiger enclosure with several animals there. presumably a busy day ata animals there. presumably a busy day at a place like this, a lot of visitors? a lot of visitors, it would have been popular and we understand the park has been closed down for the rest of the day. we await the press release from the zoo orfrom the await the press release from the zoo or from the police to tell us what has happened. thank you very much, for the moment. the headlines on bbc news: british airways boss apologises for the power surge that affected their systems. a 23—year—old man is arrested near brighton in connection
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with the manchester terror attack, as m15 says it will review its procedures. vistors have been evacuated from hamerton zoo park in cambridgeshire amid reports of a serious incident. police and an air ambulance have been spotted at the scene. in sport, the so—called richards game in football is underway at wembley. huddersfield are taking on riding at wembley and it is currently goalless. england cricketers are heading for humiliating defeat to south africa at lord's. england were all out for 153. the tourists are 63 without loss in reply. and the british number three is through to the second round of the french open. he beat the american ryan harrison in four sets. i will be back with more a bit later. police, investigating last week's suicide bombing in manchester,
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have arrested a man in shoreham—by—sea, near brighton. a total of 1a people are currently in custody in connection with the attack, which killed 22 people and injured more than 100 others. two more addresses have been raided in greater manchester and chester. here's our home affairs correspondent, june kelly. we can get more now with our correspondent frankie mccamley, who's at st ann's square in manchester. more significant police activity? yes, this investigation is following a similar pattern since the attack took place. the police get more information and we subsequently see more raids and that is what this happened in the early hours of this morning. in the whalley range area of manchester, and that the police raid took place. also about an hour's drive from here in chester, a raid took place. but the most significant thing to take place overnight is the rest of the
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23—year—old man 250 miles from here in shoreham—by—sea. he has been arrested on suspicion of terror charges. the police are emphasising this investigation is not slowing down. they have arrested 16 people following that attack last monday. two have been released, so 1a people remain in police custody. this investigation is very much ongoing. what about m15, because they are conducting a review into their part in the process? yes, m15 are conducting a review. it is not something that is extremely different. it happened in the wake of the 7/7 bombings. but we do know salman abedi, his name had been mentioned to security services three times, people concerned about his extremist views. now questions being asked, why wasn't this man stopped? was he on the radar, whether police
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watching him? we know secret services, security services have a number of different lists. 0ne services, security services have a number of different lists. one with around 20,000 people on, one with 3000 people on. the smaller list are people who are imminent william—macro of imminent danger to the public. but salman abedi was on a larger list of 20,000 people who could have, in the past, been at risk. so the big question to the security services, when people got in touch with them, what did they do with that information, was anything missed? could with that information, was anything missed ? could they with that information, was anything missed? could they do anything better? we heard from the home secretary yesterday, amber rudd, who said people should notjump to conclusions and presumed the security services missed something here and we should be patient and wait for those answers to come. thank you very much. there was another line from greater manchester police referring to the fact that
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officers investigating the attack are searching a site in pills worth in bury, greater manchester, north of the city. this search is currently ongoing, according to greater manchester police. the former blue peter presenterjohn noakes, who hosted the show in 1960s and ‘70s, has died at the age of 83. he was the bbc children's show‘s longest—serving presenter, appearing for more than 12 years. david sillito looks back at his life. i'm upside down at 30,000 feet. i'm upside down! 0h! i'm sure it does me good! how's that, then? blue peter has had many presenters, butjohn noakes was special — the cheery, funny daredevil from halifax. at this level, the plinth on which nelson stands overhangs the column. i found myself literally hanging from the ladder with nothing at all beneath me. in an age with a rather relaxed attitude to health and safety, the words, "and then
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it was my turn..." led to some startling moments. take the moment he crashed out of a bobsleigh on the cresta run. i carried on down the track on my backside, still doing around 80 miles an hour. he had grown up near halifax, joined the raf, then trained as an actor before landing the job of presenting blue peter. the yorkshire accent and the willingness to do anything for a laugh at a time when children's television was rather more formal. quick, have a sniff! he also had his own programme, go with noakes, where he sampled all the pleasures of life out and about in britain. he tired of television and set off on a yacht with his wife, settling in majorca after a shipwreck. his memories of blue peter were not entirely fond. he felt he had been badly paid, under—insured and overworked. i've been doing two
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years of go with noakes while i was still doing blue peter. i was doing a 1a—month year. you might wonder what i'm doing up here. i'm beginning to wonder myself! occasionally, he returned to tv screens, once to answer a question, "whatever happened tojohn noakes and shep?" i have some very sad news. he died on saturday. i haven't got over it. no, shep, don't bite him! in truth, thejohn noakes we all knew was, in many ways, an act he was happy to say goodbye to, but that good—humoured down—to—earth daring did give us some memorable tv moments. you can feel the speed! the former blue peter presenter, john noakes, who has died at the age of 83. 0n the line is mark curry,
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a former blue peter presenter, who worked on the programme during the ‘80s. i wonder what your thoughts are today? it is always sad when a legend goes and john noakes was a legend, not just of legend goes and john noakes was a legend, notjust of children's television but in television in general. in 60s and the 70s, television was exciting for everybody, not just television was exciting for everybody, notjust kids. and the time slot blue peterjust before the news meantjohn, val and peter were watched by a cross—section of people. we had kids and adults watching him. but they watch the programme to see whatjohn would do, what were his adventures, what would he do live in the studio? when the cameras rolled and the red light went on, he would make something happen. it was scintillating viewing. did you grow up watching
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him yourself? i did, i related to them because i am from yorkshire as well. i recognise the accent and he was just funny. i well. i recognise the accent and he wasjust funny. i have memories of himjumping around wasjust funny. i have memories of him jumping around after a kangaroo. the kangaroo set off, sojohn imitated the kangaroo and leapt about. and the elephant, lulu that messed everywhere and john slid through it and turned it into a joke. when he climbed nelson's column, it was, and is, if you saw it today, totally terrifying. he was up it today, totally terrifying. he was up there with no safety on and these are the days before health and safety. when i met him, i did pantomime with him in the 80s. i remember saying to him, where you scared? he said never. everything they threw at me, i relished. he was a brave guy who knew no fear at all. when you joined the programme which was some yea rs when you joined the programme which was some years after he left, where you conscious of his legacy? yes,
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because you would get an item to do whichjohn had because you would get an item to do which john had done because you would get an item to do whichjohn had done before. so it was, ok, i have got to turn it into something. i was never anything as brave asjohn was. a few things i did do, people used to say to me, the producer and director would say, whenjohn did the producer and director would say, when john did this, the producer and director would say, whenjohn did this, and i would have his say, stop saying that aboutjohn because nobody can follow in his footsteps. we had to be ourselves and not be john, footsteps. we had to be ourselves and not bejohn, but those who grew up and not bejohn, but those who grew up watching him, we could hear his voice and the way he would do it. you cannot think of them without shep either? they had a tremendous relationship. if you think about the programme go with noakes, it was johnin programme go with noakes, it was john ina programme go with noakes, it was john in a car sitting with shep and he would have conversations with him. he was genuinely sad when shep
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died. the kind of thing that if you showed on television today, you would watch it. it was riveting to watch. good to have your memories, thank you very much. more than 200 drivers a day have been caught using their mobile phones in the month after the law was tightened. police across britain caught almost 6,000 motorists in march, but the figure could be higher because seven forces didn't respond to freedom of information requests. drivers caught using mobiles now face six points on their licence and a £200 fine — double the previous penalty. it is dangerous, illegal and you can be fined £200 and get six points on your licence. but new figures suggest lots of people are still using their mobile phone whilst driving. the guy showed down in front of me so i could overtake and i could see him text thing on his lap. you will see an example of it, text link or talking on your phone.
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ican see text link or talking on your phone. i can see people using their phones. it scares me, particularly if i am walking along with children. we live ona walking along with children. we live on a busy road and people go to fast a nyway on a busy road and people go to fast anyway in people drive erratically when they help their phones. anyway in people drive erratically when they help their phonesm anyway in people drive erratically when they help their phones. in the past, i would have looked to do it at the traffic lights, but not any more. because of the bigger fine and six points? yes. those bigger penalties came in in march but in the following month, police forces across the uk courts 6000 people using their phone at the wheel. police caught a man driving on the m5 was using one of these to do his online banking. a school minibus driver was caught on the phone in manchester. but a third of all the offences recorded were in london. distracted by his phone, this lorry driver killed a mother and three children. he was jailed for ten yea rs. children. he was jailed for ten years. but despite the campaigns, many are not heeding the warnings. 0ne road safety group says the new
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£200 fine is not enough. we're going to take you to australia now, where there's been a shark encounter of a very different kind. a 73—year—old fisherman has had a narrow escape after a great white jumped into his boat. it happened off the north coast of new south wales. the 200—kilogram beast injured terry selwood after knocking him to the floor of his vessel. here's terry sharing his story with abc news in australia. the hand line on the left—hand side made a bit of a jump. and i thought i had made a bit of a jump. and i thought ihada made a bit of a jump. and i thought i had a bike. itouched made a bit of a jump. and i thought i had a bike. i touched the line and i caught a blur coming. 0ut i had a bike. i touched the line and i caught a blur coming. out of instinct, i threw my arm up and this thing hit me on my forearm and spun me around and knock me off my feet. i turned round and fell on my knees. this thing was beside me. i looked over and said, this thing was beside me. i looked overand said, oh, this thing was beside me. i looked over and said, oh, a shark.
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this thing was beside me. i looked overand said, oh, a shark. he this thing was beside me. i looked over and said, oh, a shark. he was doing and mad bands around, thrashing everywhere. i got a buzz quick as i could. i thought he had broken my arm. but he hadn't. he badly bruised it and tour the skin of it and i took a handkerchief out of it and i took a handkerchief out of my pocket and tied it around as tired as i could to stop the bleeding a bit. i hang on, grabbed my little radio and called the coastguard and they came to pick me up. now the weather forecast. disappointingly cloudy through the afternoon for bank holiday monday, outbreaks of rain moving north across northern ireland, scotland and northern england. heavy, maybe thundery showers clearing away from the midlands and northern england as we head into this evening. turning dryer in the south. still some missed the mark across northern areas. a mild night across the south, fresher in the north and the
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worse. 0n south, fresher in the north and the worse. on tuesday, i dry start with a little bit of sunshine. web up front pushing in the atlantic. rain into northern ireland and then to scotland. as ikpeazu, sunshine and showers will move in behind but the rain band fizzling out as it reaches england and wales. fairly warm in the south—east, fresher in the north and the west but at least bright to compensate. high pressure built into wednesday and thursday, so for most it is looking dry with warm spells of sunshine. hello. this is bbc news. the headlines at 3. 30pm. the chief executive of british airways says sorry for disruption after an it failure. alex cruz said the computer issues had nothing to do with either redundancies at the airline or cost cutting. m15 says it will investigate its handling of information from the public about the manchester bomber salman abedi. vistors have been evacuated from hamerton park zoo
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in cambridgeshire amid reports of a serious incident. police and an air ambulance have been seen at the scene. the former blue peter host john noakes, who hosted the show in the 1960s and ‘70s, has died at the age of 83. now on bbc news it's time for the final edition of our special series nick's election takeaways. on monday, the bbc‘s nick robinson shared fish and chips with voters in eltham, south—east london. the group, selected by the pollsters ipsos mori, represent some of those who are just about managing, otherwise known as the jams. people are in work, but still struggle to make ends meet to find enough money to pay the bills at the end of the week, how will they make up end of the week, how will they make up their minds on how to vote? we've come to the suburbs of south london to find out.
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it's fish and chips for the latest of my election takeaways. we're in south london in eltham, with a group of voters who are going to tell us how they're making up their minds who to back at election. just to start us off, what issues in this area, before we talk about the country, what are the things when you think about who to vote for — when you're concerned about this area — what are the things bothering you, making up your minds? i've been worried about school dinners. the conservatives want to take it. we've had the milk taken and now we're going to have the meals. they're saying about the breakfast, but my daughter has breakfast before she goes to school. how old is your daughter? 12 now. she gets a free school lunch? yeah, and dinners and that, yeah. if they take that away
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then — that, yeah. if they take that away then - i think for me personally you have to be with health care. you look at most of the service that's we get at the moment, take for example the gps, it was easy to get an appointment to go to a gp, ring up an appointment to go to a gp, ring up in the morning, you know when you wa nt up in the morning, you know when you want to go and see a gp. now it's — what's wrong with you, 0k, call back at 8am. you ring at 8am, you can't get through. then you get an appointment at 10. 30am. you've got to go to work. it's a lot harder now to go to work. it's a lot harder now to see a gp regardless of the emergencies. we're overstretching the a&e, so having to take myself up to a&e for something that the gp can look at. i work in a school and i coach at a community scheme in stoke newington. 0ne coach at a community scheme in stoke newington. one of the biggest thing is the knife epidemic which is very worrying. whichever party comes in has to have something in place to combat that. it's a problem. i work a lot with young children. work in
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academy school in south london, ties really problem. —— it's a real problem. my head of year spends 60% of hertime problem. my head of year spends 60% of her time dealing with social media issues which spill over into the classroom, playground, onto the streets. it's an issue. you mean social media rows, people picking fights and losing their tempers?m starts online bullying. when i was at school, many years ago, the bullying started at 9am, finished at 3. 30, nowadays, it's a 24/7 policy. it's getting worse. the generations coming through live their lives through a screen, through social media. are you watch watch the election much at the moment or are you like... ? bits and pieces, sort of same thing really, to me, it's all promises. they never follow through. most of them do u—turns. bit sceptical yeah. do you tune in? i do. bit sceptical yeah. do you tune in? ido.|
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bit sceptical yeah. do you tune in? i do. i listen keenly because i feel i like to hold people accountable. i'll listen to what you've got to say, that's fine. when the time comes, if you implement those policies or changes, and if you don't, then if you don't, i've got a starting point, you said this in the beginning. ie the lib dems with the tuition fees cuts. that supjet sow? it didn't did. i was past the student stage. but i thought it was deceitful for them to make such a policy and then — deceitful for them to make such a policy and then - change it. do a u—turn, yeah. policy and then - change it. do a u-turn, yeah. i find it fascinating. day by day it gathers momentum. today you see theresa may for the first time start to buckle under the pressure. a couple of weeks back, diane abbott was on the radio, i found it embarrassing listen to that is the spirit. you all -- listening to that. you all said yes! it was like somebody tripping down the stairs. there's no concrete
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foundation about what they're saying. they have hooks almost to get people involved, engagement policies. in fact they've not thought it through. they're talking about the tuition fees. how on earth are they going to pay for that? more students than ever are wanting university. blair in '97 wanted 50% of students to go to university, way too many. people are going. how are they going to afford this? where will it come from? i want to start the wider conversation a bit byjust asking a bit about you. if you had to describe how you were, how you we re to describe how you were, how you were doing in yourfamily, does it feel like it's pretty easy at the moment, things are good. we're in work, things are comfortable. you're shaking your head. struggling. every single month you are constantly thinking, "can i afford £20 on the 0yster card? if you want to go out for the evening, can i afford this, what else will give. no, even when you do the weekly shopping. if it comes up to over £100, you're thinking, can something give. you're
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a lwa ys thinking, can something give. you're always plate spinning, that's what i call it. you constantly have different financial plates on the co. you're balancing. what do you do? i teach. i work in co. you're balancing. what do you do? iteach. iwork in a co. you're balancing. what do you do? i teach. i work in a school. you're not on a bad salary, i suppose? in london, no. for the hours i put in, my alarm goes off at 4. 40am. i get home at 6. 30pm at night. that's why there's a teacher shortage. i work with young children. i coach football. not a bad salary, i disagree with that.“ it tough times, daniel? yeah. you're saying about teachers, i work for local government. most people would say my salary's quite a good salary. i'm a single mum. of say my salary's quite a good salary. i'm a single mum. 0fjust one, but she's very expensive, very demanding. she's about to go to school. so yes, yay, child care won't be as big a cost as it has been, because boy, child care costs are anotherjoke, been, because boy, child care costs are another joke, i been, because boy, child care costs are anotherjoke, i think. i'm lucky
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that i'm coming back out of that. but if i was to be thinking about having another child at any time, the child care costs alone put you off. it's three times my mortgage price almost. yeah, i think the problem with salaries of local government or teachers for example, they haven't stayed in the bracket of the increase of what cost of living has. is it like that for you? yeah for me, i've been struggling. every year struggling, every year. because i got three kids or three girls, 15, 9 and 4. i don't have any savings. we just have to take from one, from overdraft, pay back, you know, just struggling like that. what do you do? security man. yeah, and are there things that you have to give up, that you feel you need, that you can't give your kids? no, i can't really give them 100% of what
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they ask of me, no. i have to struggle to make them happy. just to, you know, you have to start telling them, sorry, you know, rosy stories. stories about why you can't get it? yeah, tell them the story, next time, i give you — the worry. is that for a birthday present or everyday things? everyday things. they wanted mcdonald's, i didn't have money. next week i said i would pick it up to you. have you heard the phrase "just about managing"? is that you? yeah. yes. i countermy blessings a bit. if i had bought my house now and bought it six years ago, i wouldn't be able to buy it. it's nearly doubled in value. sometimes you have to count your blessings. if you'rejust sometimes you have to count your blessings. if you're just about managing, you are managing though. some people — i mean, if they're worrying about how to feet their
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children or food banks and issues like that make you think — well, there's a whole world underneath that are struggling more. i'm going to let you into a secret, we chose you because you were alljust about managings. it's not just coincidence. 0r managings. it's not just coincidence. or rather i source mori the pollsters chose you. you found an unlucky bunch. i think you're more resourceful in leisure opportunities. if you want to go to the football or cinema or music or the football or cinema or music or the theatre, whatever it might be, you think to yourself, how can i do it on you think to yourself, how can i do itona you think to yourself, how can i do it on a budget? you think can i get half priced tickets. who isn't suffering? who is doing all right? you. me! mps. yeah. those with two homes. you're only jealous because i've got a pickled onion, be honest. we've had 1% pay rises year after year. mps haven't. they set their own. all the expenses scandals. it's
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not down the bottom, the hospitals are trying their best. they're decent folk. we're getting good care for what we get. it's at the top.|j asked you about the phrase just about managing, if you know for certain who it is, don't say. who said that phrase "just about managing"? churchill? no. no idea? rose? i'm like to say jeremy corbyn. but i don't think that's true. you think it should bejeremy corbyn. but i don't think that's true. you think it should be jeremy corbyn.“ it was him i'd be very proud. you think it is jeremy it was him i'd be very proud. you think it isjeremy corbyn. it was him i'd be very proud. you think it is jeremy corbyn. yeah. i would be pleased. theresa may. isn't that interesting. when she came into office the people she said she wanted to help were just about managing. really? who does she think they are? because she might, again, it's all talk. talk's cheap. she
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will sit round this table with her cronies and her pals and her mps and they'll tell you they're just about managing with their two houses and 160 grand cars. that we're paying for. that we pay for. she says she wants to help us, why are you going to take the school dinners away then? that's contradicting yourself there. it seems in so many areas it's a race to the bottom, in the cuts, whether it be, i have a friend who is a taxi driver. uberhave come and almost demolished the black taxi drivers. it's a shame. people study. they have a profession. then all of a sudden, it's gone. what baffles me about this country is the tax system. i think they don't encourage people to work in this country. because the more you work, the more they tax. i just sit down in because the more you work, the more they tax. ijust sit down in my house and start thinking, so many people are ready to work, but when you are thinking about the tax they are going to remove from your pay
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you just relax. are going to remove from your pay youjust relax. it are going to remove from your pay you just relax. it doesn't feel fair? it's not fair at all. they should encourage people to work. the more you work, the less you tax. that's what it should be. nor the more you work the more they tax. that's what it should be. nor the more you work the more they taxm seems over the last ten years, if you try to balance the books each month, you do the right thing, you work 60 hours a week, like the gentleman said, all a sudden, you're worse off. it doesn't make sense. you find it harder. it's like quick sand. the more you're trying, the harder it is to make ends meet. so are you hearing anything from any of the parties, any of the leaders, that makes you think, well, they kind of get it. yeah, i like the sound of that idea or i think they understand my position? there's one thing that corbyn said that i liked, where he said he wants to nationalise the railways again. i think that's a good idea. when i used to commute into london, one of the things that frustrated me is every year the fares go up and i wouldn't get a seat and things like
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that. sometimes you wouldn't even get on your train. so in my head, i used to think, just when i started to think it was nationalised then it was privatised. it's gone downhill since. he reminds me of a normal person, a person that could be sat around this table with us. i couldn't see myself eating fish and chips with theresa may. not in a month of sundays. i could see myself sitting in front ofjeremy corbyn and saying, here's my spread sheet, how do you think i can help you? just his whole demeanorjust makes me think he might start asking us a little bit more about how we want things to be. if we did get labour back in, i think they might, before they start doing, they might start asking a bit more. i don't think he's firm enough as a leader. i look at him,| he's firm enough as a leader. i look at him, ijust don't know. there's something about him, i can't put my finger on. it he's not got that bit of steel, where you think, yeah. don't up admire the honesty though?
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what's honest? wealth. he lives by a lot of the things he believes in. he's been in politics a very long time. whether he's a good leader is another matter, but he definitely lives by what he believes. is a guy you can have fish and chips with and talk about your problems is that — hold on, i will ask the others, is that the test you set for a prime minister? it needs to be someone you can relate to, someone you can warm up can relate to, someone you can warm up to when you're having a conversation and believe what they're selling you. it's like a sales pitch. whose pitch are you going for? and you believe him? i believe him. i felt let going for? and you believe him? i believe him. ifelt let down going for? and you believe him? i believe him. i felt let down when the whole brexit thing broke out. i felt like he hid. hejust disappeared. where was he? you wa nted disappeared. where was he? you wanted to stay in? yes. what have you heard from jeremy corbyn so far, we've had renationalise the railways, have you heard anything else that you thought, yeah, i like the sound of that? tuition fees was
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quite good. except again it went too high from this september, unbelievable, really. that we could get it all through by then. they're promising it though. better tuition fees, you know, for your children coming on. you've got kids? i have three. all girls. they're hoping to get into college. it's like fees and stuff. it's like i'm not really in a position to help them as much as i would have liked to. do you think he can do it? he says he'll cut fees?|j hope so. like you say, you vote for them and then they do a u—turn on you. you can never tell, can you. mathematically it's possible. the only problem i have is that in order to do that, does that mean that the student loans are going to go up, so the cost of paying it back? 0bviously
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the cost of paying it back? obviously i was a student myself and i had obviously i was a student myself and ihada obviously i was a student myself and i had a student loan. it's taking a while to pay that back. so i'm wondering if you're going to subsidise in one area, as i said, it seems like maths to me, if you reduce somewhere, somewhere else has to increase. i like the stuff about the nhs. i just to increase. i like the stuff about the nhs. ijust would like for things to get back to normal and give nurses a chance. you mean pay? yes. for nurses, they're undervalued. they do a lot of work. they're not being appreciated to the level they should be. they should have a pay rise. yes. in the current climate it's vital more police are on the street and rapport is built in communities in the light of terrorism and knife crime. who do you think, at the moment, might be more honest with you? it's looking likejeremy, to more honest with you? it's looking like jeremy, to be more honest with you? it's looking likejeremy, to be honest. yeah, it's looking likejeremy. i won't lie, idid
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it's looking likejeremy. i won't lie, i did like theresa at first. she reminded me a little bit of, in terms of the iron fist of margaret thatcher, although she destroyed everything that was, you know, some of the things i'm not going to lie, i tend to gear towards strong people. i did like theresa at first when she came, but there's been too many things to make me think, hold on, you called this election first of all. why? why did you do that?“ there anything, before we talk about her as a person, what about promises she's made, the tories have made to help you out? have you heard any? they just help you out? have you heard any? theyjust seem help you out? have you heard any? they just seem to, help you out? have you heard any? theyjust seem to, she puts me off further and further. it seems generic that they're going to do the best for britain with the brexit negotiations. border of it. have you heard anything? i think she's talking about sorting out immigration. but they've been singing that song for a long time. nothing for you personally? anybody heard an idea for a cap in the price
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of energy? yes. that was a couple of weeks ago. i've heard that before. we've been hearing that for years. going to be cap this, and the petrol is going to be canned. never does. you like the idea. everyone likes the idea. it sounds good, but is it going to happen? reality. that's one of the more obvious points that you canjust rule of the more obvious points that you can just rule out, of the more obvious points that you canjust rule out, anyone with half a brain cell, would know we're talking about private companies. since when did anything really work telling private companies what to do? it's never worked. telling private companies what to do? it's neverworked. rail system, for example, hasn't worked. time and again they've tried, the government has tried and tried to intervene, both sets, with them, but they're a private company so it's failed. so on the energy cap, you're all sounding like you've always all voted labour, is that true? has anybody here not voted labour? i've a lwa ys anybody here not voted labour? i've always voted labour. does jeremy
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corbyn get your... not massively, no. if you were choosing on the man or woman. ? it would be the woman, if it were just the man or woman, it would be the woman. you have got to let other people talk. it's the policies as well. i'm caught between the two. half of me thinks, we vote every four years, we should be voting every 14 years, because by the time — i look at education again, we get in policy, we get the people out. policy in. people in. by that time, the four years are up. you vote for cameron. you don't much like corbyn. i don't mind him, but - you're thinking of voting labour? yeah. why? because of the policies. i look at today, the chancellor of to be the change in the poll —— the change in the policies. the press don't help, but what will be tomorrow's story. what will they
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keep on changing on a daily basis. who here thinksjeremy corbyn will be our next prime minister? i'd like to hope — be our next prime minister? i'd like to hope - hold on. i said who and nobody said yes. it will be closer than people think. go on. i bet you this pickled onion. i bet you that pickled onion we could be going into another coalition with labour leading. nobody thinks he'll win outright. who thinks the tories will win? i can't see that now. i don't think so. i think theresa may will win. strongly. you don't want her to? i don't want her to, but she will win a few more seats. you don't think she will. nobody else like some of what they're seeing with theresa may?|j else like some of what they're seeing with theresa may? i think when she first came in, i was like, girl power. that's what i'm talking about. she's definitely got it, she's on the money. but for me now, it's a trust issue. can i trust her.
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she's done a lot of back tracking. 0ne she's done a lot of back tracking. one minute, i'm not having a snap election, it's not happening. now it's happening. then the next minute, she puts something into place and turns around. can you trust someone like that? you must have people around you that advise you before you speak. is it her fault? is it the advisors' faults. are they sitting down before they make these announcements or what is the general thinking behind all of this? that's what i'd like to know. is that enough to change your mind? i was sitting on the fence, now i think i know exactly what i'm going to do. if there's another story that's bad for someone else tomorrow, could you change your mind again. is it one of those things where you're shifting each day? no, i was genuinely on the fence for a while, now i'm 100%, i know what i'm going to do. which is? i'm not telling. what words do you think of when you think of theresa may? 0ne or two words. unstable. she's not sta ble or two words. unstable. she's not stable enough. establishment. gambling. flakey. rattled.
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untrustworthy. professional. you think she's professional. she can still win you back? definitely. i look at her and i think, thatcher. john major, a bit before my time in terms of voting, everyone slated him quite dour, i think he was an a ccou nta nt quite dour, i think he was an accou nta nt by quite dour, i think he was an accountant by trade. i look at theresa may and i think, she's got the country's best interests at heart. the point you made earlier, in terms of from today's news, has that been planned? i don't think it was. i think she's been found out and she's sweating a bit. i see your point, i never looked at it like that br. so —— before. i see similarities withjohn major in terms of the personalities and she's not particularly flash. do you mean that as a compliment? yeah, yeah. what, straight? yes. not a big, flashy, pr. i look at boris johnson
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for example, if he was there, forget it. not for me. thank you, but no thanks. i think she's quite straight down—the—line. i think she knows what she wants. i think she's got the country's best interests at heart. for me, that goes a long way. rose, you have experience of her? yes, i worked rose, you have experience of her? yes, iworked in rose, you have experience of her? yes, i worked in the rose, you have experience of her? yes, iworked in the police rose, you have experience of her? yes, i worked in the police when she was home secretary. sol yes, i worked in the police when she was home secretary. so i know she can be very stern. when she wants things to go her way, she pushes them right through. that's why i wouldn't trust her with the country. i think she will stick to things and that scares me. that might be a good thing, mightn't it? no. it might make her a tough negotiator. for brexit, that might be the only time and that would be quite good to have her wits about her and see things through. in other sas pects, she could be softer, things like —— in other aspects, she could be softer, like the nhs, see the bigger picture rather than her road map for success. one question, a lot of you said you like jeremy
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success. one question, a lot of you said you likejeremy corbyn, is there anything you've heard about jeremy corbyn that makes you think, oh, bit worried about that. you're making up your mind, so i ask you. not really. he hasn't — i suppose, all right the only grey area with jeremy corbyn and the labour party is they just jeremy corbyn and the labour party is theyjust have to get their maths right. i'm not talking about the diane abbott thing, i'm talking about in general. if you're going to say this and this, you have to demonstrate — well, for their sake any way — demonstrate where this will come from and how you feel like it will get back. that's it. you need to know the numbers add up. yeah, that's all it is. i think is he going to get the brexit deal right for us, if he goes into power? that's my concern. why might he not? because like i said to you before, when it was all kicking off, i felt like he disappeared. hejust when it was all kicking off, i felt like he disappeared. he just was not in the forefront of everything. he just was not there for me to be able to say actually, he's really putting his back into it and he wants this
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to happen or not to happen. ijust felt he wasn't there for me. would theresa may be good in the brexit negotiations? she is doing her best. but i think she's a bit stubborn. we didn't do words for him. we did words for theresa may. 0ne didn't do words for him. we did words for theresa may. one or two words, not sentences, daniel. 0ne words for theresa may. one or two words, not sentences, daniel. one or two words. maverick. friendly. honest. genuine. trusted. perfect. perfect? he's perfect, interesting. gut feeling. that's what you feel good about? very good. 0lly, tom, lamont, danielle, nzema, rose, alex, thank vouch indeed. time to finish off the —— thank you very much indeed. time to finish off the pickled onion. that's it from this
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election takeaway. hello there. it's been a disappointingly cloudy day up and down the country. there was a bit of sunshine around. the best of it was in the south—east. it boosted temperatures. there was a bit of sunshine across the north of scotla nd sunshine across the north of scotland too. you can see the window of brightness in the south—east is replaced by cloud and rain through the afternoon. heavy bursts there and thunder storms across the south—west of england. these feeding northwards into the midlands. you can see outbreaks of rain across northern ireland and scotland. quite a messy picture through the afternoon. those showers and thunder storms will rattle on into the evening across the midlands. the rain slowly pulling away from northern ireland, though. it will leave a hang back of cloud and run or two showers around. quite a wet, dreary end to the day for much of scotland. that rain getting in towards the north as well. 0utbreaks of rain in north—eastern england. heavy showers continuing in the midlands for a while. drier pushing
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into the south—west and into wales. across the south—east, warm and muggy. the odd heavier bursts of rain there. cloud to end the day. so into the evening and overnight period. conditions start to dry up across the south. the rain is very slowly clearly from the north. further showers, at time low cloud, mist and murk. generally speaking, it's going to be a fairly mild night, certainly across the south. that weather system will clear away. we look to the west, to this feature, which brings a spell of rain to the north and the west of the uk. you can see the isobars are packed together there. it's going to bea packed together there. it's going to be a breezier day, particularly for scotla nd be a breezier day, particularly for scotland and northern ireland. we start off on a fairly dry note for england and wales. 0ne start off on a fairly dry note for england and wales. one or two spells of sunshine. that weather front sweeps of sunshine. that weather front swee ps a cross of sunshine. that weather front sweeps across northern ireland in towards schooled, fizzling out as it reaches england and wales. behind, it skies brighten. we see sunny spells, one or two showers. ahead of it still a warm and muggy feel, 21
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or 22 degrees. that feature clears away during tuesday evening. a windy end to the day across the northern half of the uk. then high pressure builds in from the south for wednesday. in fact for wednesday and for thursday, it looks like it's going to be mainly dry with warm spells of sunshine before more rain returns from the west during friday. this is bbc news. the headlines at 4.00pm: the bbc obtains cctv pictures appearing to show the manchester bomber salman abedi shopping a day before the attack. staff say it's the same man. looking at that cctv it's the same guy that's been in the shop several times in the past. he looks exactly like the guy that they're saying has done the bombings. greater manchester police are searching a site in bury in
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