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hello, this is breakfast, with charlie stayt and louise minchin, live from westminster. a prime minister under pressure. just a day after clinging to power, theresa may faces a backlash from fellow tories. the conservative leader is forming a minority government with the support of the democratic unionist party, but there are questions from some of her own mps over how long she can remain in thejob. the deal with the dup is also under scrutiny. the leader of the scottish conservatives, ruth davidson, says she has raised concerns with the prime minister about the unionists‘ opposition to gay rights. labour has ended its election campaign on a high. jeremy corbyn‘s party took kensington from the conservatives for the first time in its history, by just 20 votes. this morning, we'll be live at downing street with the latest. and we'll be hearing how people across the uk have been reacting to friday's result. public services, cut, nhs, social
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capital education. and i think people are looking for something more positive and knowing that it doesn't have to be that way. they just did not seem to be bothered, theyjust thought they were going to wind didn't they? end of story. i think you can forget about brexit. this is the kenilworth agricultural show. everything is here, we have got farmers, with the experts and local business owners, all here to discuss with us whatjust happened, and what happens next. good morning — it's saturday 10th june. we're on college green in westminster, for a special programme, as we look at what happens next after the 2017 general election resulted
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in a hung parliament. also ahead... police reveal that the london bridge attackers had tried to get hold of a seven—tonne lorry, and that petrol bombs were found in the van they did eventually hire. detectives are now appealing for information about the knives used in the attack. in sport, the lions are facing their toughest game yet on their tour of new zealand. owen farrell has kicked, which penalties and the lions lead 6—0. it is an ok start to the day in sussex, but i'm afraid it is not like that everywhere. i will have the weather injusta everywhere. i will have the weather injust a few everywhere. i will have the weather in just a few minutes. good morning. this is breakfast, live from college green in westminster. our top story this morning? the prime minister is facing pressure from within her own party, as she moves to form
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a government with the help of the democratic unionists. theresa may's failure to secure an outright majority has led to questions from some conservatives over whether she should remain in charge, and about what a deal with the dup could involve. our political correspondent emma vardy has this report on the fallout from the 2017 general election. a valuable result in the uk's richest constituency. almost 2a hours after the polls closed, it took a third recount in kensington to finally reveal labour had taken this seat from the tories for the first time ever, and byjust 20 votes.
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it means the conservatives end the campaign with 318 seats, with labour up by 30 to 262. now, theresa may is reaching out to the democratic unionist party in northern ireland for support. with the ten dup mps, the conservatives will have a working majority in the house of commons. but there are early signs that for some, this will be an uncomfortable alliance. the dup is anti—abortion, and northern ireland is the only part of the uk where same—sex marriage is not legal. scottish conservative leader ruth davidson last night sought assurances that any deal with the dup must not affect gay rights across the uk. meanwhile, concerns remain over whether the prime minister can hold on. one senior tory has told the bbc she has to go. and this was the transport secretary, chris grayling, on
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question time. my view is that she should stay as prime ministerfor the foreseeable future. what was once sold as strong and stable now feels ever so shaky. a short time ago, the former conservative housing minister gavin barwell, who lost his seat, told this programme the prime minister should stay. brom tech the conservative party has got the largest number of votes, it has got the most mps, we are the only party capable of forming a strong government to take us through these brexit negotiations. we need to get behind theresa may, but the whole party needs to learn lessons. for the latest, let's speak to our political correspondent eleanor garnier, who is at downing street this morning. so, we know theresa may is back in downing street this morning. the question people are asking is, can she remained there? yes, she has
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emerged from this election not with that increased majority that she wanted, but instead, fighting for her premiership. after what some are calling a disastrous campaign, there are questions as to just how long theresa may can last here in no 10. heidi allen, the conservative mp, has said she thinks she has six months at best. rightly, others, as well as one minister, have told me they cannot see her staying here. so, big questions, but she is here putting plans in place for her government. so in the short term she is not going anywhere. ultimately, though, that big political gamble to call the election might notjust have cost the conservatives their majority, it might have cost theresa may her long—term future, too. majority, it might have cost theresa may her long-term future, too. yes, a lot of questions now about quite what the deal is between the conservative said the dup, a lot of scrutiny on some of the dup policies? theresa may needs to get a deal done with the dup pretty
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quickly, that's because the queen's speech, where the government sets out its agenda, is in a week's time, a week on monday. as well as brexit negotiations as well. but plans for a deal with the dup have raised some concern within the conservative party about the dup‘s stance on things like same—sex marriage and abortion. but also potential problems when it comes to power—sharing negotiations, because of course, the british government normally acts as a neutral broker in those negotiations between the republicans and the unionists. so, it is going to be difficult for theresa may. not only does she face the pressure of time and brexit negotiations, but of course she has to keep everybody happy in what is going to be a very tricky deal. to keep everybody happy in what is going to be a very tricky dealm the next few minutes, we will be speaking to ed vaizey, conservative mp, about some of the issues which many people are asking about in
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connection with his leader now. it's been revealed that one of the london bridge killers tried to hire a seven—and—a—half—tonne truck on the morning of the attack. police say khuram butt‘s payment failed to go through, so he hired a white van from b&q that was eventually used instead. two more people have been arrested in connection with the attack. a total of eight people are now in custody. here's our home affairs correspondent daniel sandford. this was the weapon found still strapped last saturday night to the body of khuram butt. he and his fellow attackers used three identical ceramic knives to murderfive people. counter—terrorism detectives want help, to find out where these knives were bought. the men had already killed three other people on london bridge with a van hired from b&q. throughout the carnage, heroic members of the public tried to stop them. we have stories of people who came out armed with chairs, other items, throwing bottles, anything they could get their hands
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on, with a view to trying to prevent the attackers coming into pubs and bars, but more importantly to scare them off, to try and stop other people being attacked. afterwards in the van, police found 13 petrol bombs, made with lighter fluid and cloth from tracksuit bottoms, as well as two blowtorches. the day had started with the ringleader, khuram butt, who was on police bail, trying to hire a seven—and—a—half—tonne truck. he didn't have enough money, so instead, he hired the white van from b&q in romford, which they picked up sometime after 6.30pm. then, leaving barking soon after 7.30, they set off for central london. at 9.58, they arrived in london bridge, driving across it and back again, before ploughing into pedestrians on their third pass. by the time they crashed the van at 10.07, they had fatally wounded three people. they then used the knives to kill five more. at 10.16, they were
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shot dead by police. detectives believe was a safe house, a flat in this street in london, above a row of shops, and it is here police believe they prepared for their attack. we can give you a sense of what some of the newspapers are saying today. that was as she returns to downing street yesterday afternoon. the daily express, theresa may clings on... again, the same sentiment from the i. and the daily mirror, coalition with crackpots , making a
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reference to what theresa may referred to as a different kind of coalition altogether. we will be speaking to the mp ed vaizey in just a few minutes' time. so many conversations, you could hear them everywhere you went yesterday, people discussing what this might mean. what a mess to clear up. the morning after the night before. this business was set up after bin collections work at here. bury council has lost close to half of its funding since 2010. josh charnley people have had enough. public services cut, nhs, social care, education... and i think
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people are looking for something more positive, and knowing that it does not have to be that way, there is another way for people. from pre—election headlines to post—election headlines. dave, the labour voter, is stoned and chuffed. is this a look of shock? yes. dave the conservative voter is stunned — and furious. they just the conservative voter is stunned — and furious. theyjust did not seem to be bothered, theyjust thought they were going to win, didn't they? end of story. i think you can forget about brexit. brexit, the word they thought would dominate all of those decisions made a day earlier. in the end, it was another word which helped turn this seat from blue to red — austerities. helped turn this seat from blue to red - austerities. people have said, enough is enough. economics is about humanity as well as balancing the books. there were other reasons,
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too. we went in search of pub wisdom, to the red line. jeremy corbyn came and faced the people, i think he stepped up and was in the limelight more than herself. names, you know what i'm saying! in this pub, conservative voters had their own theories. cuts, winter fuel allowances, triple lock... if she hadn't have said all about these cuts that she was going to do, she would have been fine. she did shoot herself in the foot, as far as i was concerned, yes. back in bury north, as the dust settles, there was a murder mystery under way. you're going to find the killer?|j murder mystery under way. you're going to find the killer? i hope so. did you spot the result coming?|j sort of hoped it wouldn't. bury north is a bellwether constituency, they have always follow the national trend. they went blue when a little
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bit came to power, went red with blair, back to blue with cameron, but this time, they did not guess who did it. there was a 5% swing to red as theresa mayjust held on to power, but only with the help of the democratic unionist party. what do you know about them?|j democratic unionist party. what do you know about them? i don't know a lot about them. let's have a look together... a quick look at either dup's socially conservative views, anti—abortion, anti—day, are not palatable to all conservatives. as a tory supporter, how do you feel about what is going to be around the corner? i can't, ijust can't. you hope the murder mystery might be easier to solve! ahead lies a journey into brexit negotiations few could imagine. theresa may says nothing will derail them. really interesting hearing some of those conversations going on across the
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country. let's introduce you to two mps this morning. ed vaizey, conservative, for didcot and?l sarahjones, conservative, for didcot and?l sarah jones, croydon conservative, for didcot and?l sarahjones, croydon south. good morning to you both. you will be less only a face to people, as well as making the link, we were speaking to gavin barwell, whom you beat in this election. i did, yes. it was quite an extraordinary turnaround. explain to people first of all the scale of what happened in your constituency? well, i fought the election in 2015, and we lost by 165 votes. this time, i won byjust over 5500 votes. and it has been an extraordinary election, to go from where we started, where probably gavin feldt he would win by a few thousand, to us winning by a few thousand, to us winning by a few thousand,it thousand, to us winning by a few thousand, it is just extraordinary. when did you realise, was itjust the moment when your name was called out or did you realise somewhere
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along the campaign that something had changed? we knew something was changing. when we spoke to young people, which wasn't that many because they are quite hard to find when you knock on the door, they are up when you knock on the door, they are up in their bedroom or they are out. when we did speak to young people, in 2015 they were apathetic, i will get my mum. this time, they were interested and they were voting labour. and something was happening. but we did not pick up the numbers of it, because i don't think we were talking to enough of the young people. we sort of knew we were going in the right direction and we thought we might win by a small amount, but not by that much. ed vaizey, yours is a different picture, to say the least. you have a co nsta ble picture, to say the least. you have a constable majority. how do you reflect now on what happened to your party coverage individually, yours was a success story, party coverage individually, yours was a success story, but as a party, this was a disaster, do you accept that? yeah, i do, some optimali think is the phrase one could use, avoid using words like disaster! it
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is not a great result if to echo what sarah said, we did not know. i campaigned in lots of other seats, i campaigned in lots of other seats, i campaigned in lots of other seats, i campaigned in richmond, where zac goldsmith did get back in, but also in isleworth which i thought would go back to the conservatives, i did not detect anything on the ground, i campaigned in slough which we thought was in play, if you like, with an 8000 labour majority, but labour got back in with 16,000. we we re labour got back in with 16,000. we were not expecting this. to echo a slightly frivolous story which my wife told me that a friend of hers had gone to the polling station and seen so had gone to the polling station and seen so many young had gone to the polling station and seen so many young people queueing up seen so many young people queueing up and then gone back and put a bet ona hung up and then gone back and put a bet on a hung parliament! i do think young people voting has made a significant difference. so what we need to know is, what changes? we have seen theresa may coming out and saying, there will be a conservative government for the next five years. should she be leading the party, what needs to happen? we are looking
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at this through the prism of people having expected his campaign to return a conservative government with a very big pejorative. if we look at the cameron campaign in 2015, when people were expecting a hung parliament, and that is what we have got now. we do have the most mps, ithink have got now. we do have the most mp5, i think we are entitled to form a minority government. the clear willingness at the moment is for tory mps to support the prime minister, as our leader, and this is her opportunity to show us that she is capable of running a minority government. that is the official linejoker what do you really think? the truth is that she's damaged goods, is that not the case? also, in the comments she has made subsequently, a lot of people, tory supporters included, were hoping there might have been some contrition, some reaching out to the people who don't think she did very well. why does she do this actor of pretending that nothing has
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happened? well, i was disappointed by what she said on the steps of downing street. but i kind of thought, well, she's wanting to get the message across that she wants to carry on as prime minister, she wants to ensure that there is some stability. to go back to the point about whether she should be leading the party, i do think we need this period of stability. she has subsequently been more empathetic. she has been so pathetic to your collea g u es she has been so pathetic to your colleagues who have lost theirjobs. yeah, she clearly needs to acknowledge what has happened, and the country and it plans to leave the country and it plans to leave the government and what her proposals are. is she the right person, in your view, proposals are. is she the right person, in yourview, on proposals are. is she the right person, in your view, on monday week, when negotiations begin with europe? i do think she is the right person for these negotiations. david davis and theresa may have been preparing for these for a considerable period of time. clearly, i am a remainer,
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considerable period of time. clearly, lam a remainer, i considerable period of time. clearly, i am a remainer, i want a soft brexit. there are lots of factors in this election, but one clear factor for me was a rejection of ha rd clear factor for me was a rejection of hard brexit. so, if there are ha rd of hard brexit. so, if there are hard brexiteers in my party, who are going to go around saying no deal is better than a bad deal, they are completely out of touch with the british public, because we don't wa nt british public, because we don't want a hard brexit, we want good relations with our european neighbours. sarah, we will come to you ina neighbours. sarah, we will come to you in a second, apologies! do you see any signs so far that theresa may is going along with what you're saying! her first task was clearly to say, she's going to remainers prime minister and leader minority government. i hope in the next few days we will see a clear acknowledgement that no deal is better than a bad deal is off the table and that we are going for a brexit which is going to secure jobs and investment, acknowledging the fa ct and investment, acknowledging the fact that there is a huge amount of european investment, a lot of people
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living here, contributing significantly to our economy and indeed to our way of life. people are saying this morning, are they asking you, who is our next leader? we all talk on whatsapp! are you in the group? lots of mps are in lots of different groups of! would you tell us? if someone he had asked you for their support to rival... ? tell us? if someone he had asked you for their support to rival...?|j tell us? if someone he had asked you for their support to rival. . . ? i can categorically tell you nobody has asked me for that. categorically? categorically. sarah, i am sorry, you have been slightly ignored. we have the conservative party having won on the back foot, we have to ask you, what has changed for the labour party, you're still in opposition? we are but we did hugely well. what difference does it make?” we are but we did hugely well. what difference does it make? i feel for ed vaizey, basically trying to say she is the right woman for the job, when clearly, she is not. i think thatis when clearly, she is not. i think that is apparent to everybody, and is going to be a change at some
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point. i think it is up to the labour party to say, on all of these issues which we care about, we want to be the strongest opposition began possibly be and make sure she does not increment the terrible things in her manifesto which she had and hold her manifesto which she had and hold herfeet her manifesto which she had and hold her feet to the fire in terms of europe. you spoke about young people, what about, for example, cherishing fees, what difference does it make? in terms of us being the opposition? yeah. i think theresa may will inevitably have to step down in the next few months, and who knows, there might be another election. and i was with young people yesterday, i went to croydon college and spoke to them, and they were really disappointed that we did not win and really up for us winning next time round. so hopefully we can win next time round. we have now got more labour mps who can be making the case for more funding. the idea that
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austerity is the only way is now gone. we should be investing in education, we won that argument. and i think we can carry on winning that argument. we need to do everything we can. we can fight to do some things locally that we want to do with young people that they care about. ed, does that idea work with you, so, theresa may starts it off and then someone else comes along, may be adopting some of those ideas which young people found so attractive in the labour party ma nifesto, attractive in the labour party manifesto, is that a realistic look at the future? i'm giving theresa may my full support.” at the future? i'm giving theresa may my full support. i thought you we re may my full support. i thought you were going to say six months then!” give her my full support for five years! as prime minister and leader of mike party, she is entitled to leader minority government, but we are in difficult territory. i was on this green seven years ago talking about a minority government are going, but that ended up in a good coalition. that is clearly not on the cards now. what do you think
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about this deal with the dup, are you happy about it?” about this deal with the dup, are you happy about it? i think there is a lot of concern about some of the views the dwp has. and i think a lot of us effectively on the left of the party, i might as well admit it, have made it very clear, i strongly supported equal marriage, and by on the liberal wing of the party. so long as that agenda is maintained by the conservative party, i'm sure the dup have voted for conservative legislation in the past, and there are members of my party not share those liberal views on it would allow us, for example, to pass a budget, which is the most important thing for the country. does this throw up personal issues for you, what if you are asked to share a platform with one of your dup colleagues? we are getting into slightly. .. i share colleagues? we are getting into slightly... i share a chamber in the house of commons with dup mps and mps house of commons with dup mps and mp5 of all different views who are legitimately elected by their
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electorate. nobody is talking about merging with them or formal coalition. i understand that it is an understanding not to vote down a conservative budget. there is so much to discuss. ed vaizey and sarah jones, thank you very much. congratulations. it started out cold here, but it has turned out lovely. what is going on for everybody else? thankfully, i can spread thejoy what is going on for everybody else? thankfully, i can spread the joy a little bit further than westminster. we have had a number of which is in from the isle of wight. if you go a bit further north and west, in wales, it is like that, and it is not just wales, because wales, it is like that, and it is notjust wales, because we have got weather fronts piling in notjust wales, because we have got weatherfronts piling in to notjust wales, because we have got weather fronts piling in to the north of england, wales and increasingly across the west of england and up into scotland has he having already moved through northern ireland. much of the
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activity on those fronts will have pushed up towards the northern isles, leaving behind some brighter weather for scotland. large areas of cloud and rain, very slow—moving across these northern and western areas. it means the midlands, east anglia and the south—east of england dry, fine and sunny. scotland versus england later on today should benefit from those improving conditions across scotland and northern ireland. northern ireland should not have any problems with the weather in azerbaijan, either. uv levels are very high across east anglia and in the south—east. that weather front eventually comes down into the south—east overnight. weakening all the time. quite humid night here, a mild night pretty much
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cross the peace. we are still dominated by low pressure, sunday. it isa dominated by low pressure, sunday. it is a breezy day as well, especially for the western side of scotla nd especially for the western side of scotland and northern ireland. this is where we will find the greatest number of showers. the old weather front taking its time to exit stage right. but once it does so, i think temperatures will get up towards 21 or 22. that 21 degrees, not quite reflected here at the moment. coming up after breakfast on bbc one, it's saturday kitchen, with michel rouer. we are trying to address some of the
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issues which you may have been discussing at home about the deal which has been done with the dup. and just assessing what we know about the 2017 general election and what it means for theresa may. we will have the headlines in just a couple of moments. hello this is breakfast, with charlie stayt and louise minchin. we are in westminster discussing the fallout from the results of the general election. we will discuss what a hung parliament might mean for the country in the future of theresa may. let's bring you the latest developments. the prime minister is facing pressure from within her own party, as she moves to form a government with the help of the democratic unionists. theresa may's failure to secure an outright majority
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in the general election has led to questions from some conservatives over whether she should remain in charge, and about what a deal with the dup could involve. earlier the prime minister's former communications chief told us she was certain that some cabinet members would be considering mrs may's future. i'm sure they will be looking at the long term wondering if we will have five years of theresa may or if they will be in with a shot. they will be crowding around her, backing her because we are ten days away from brexit negotiations and that will be the first thing on their mind but yes, long—term, probably. the leader of the scottish conservatives, ruth davidson, has raised concerns about the prospect of a deal with the democratic unionists. she's asked the prime minister for assurances that gay rights won't be eroded by the dup, which opposes same sex marriage. catriona renton is in glasgow for us this morning. there is a lot to discuss in scotla nd there is a lot to discuss in scotland as well as other implications, catriona, what can you tell us? let's put this into some
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context. the conservatives in scotla nd context. the conservatives in scotland won 13 seats on thursdays so scotland won 13 seats on thursdays so while other parts of the country we re so while other parts of the country were losing them, that has given ruth davidson is a strong negotiating place, she has helped to keep theresa may in downing street and she can expect some payback. the dup issue, the dup are against gay marriage and ruth davidson is engaged to be married to a female partner. she says she has raised the easy with theresa may, saying there are things that happen to matter to her more than her party and lgbt rights of those. ruth davidson has said in the past that she wants as much access as possible to the single market. i think we're having sound problems, because of the let's leave it there! thank you. meanwhile in the final constituency
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declaration labour tool the conservative seat of kensington in west london. after a third recount emma dent coad won by just twenty votes, overturning a majority of seven thousand. now the other main stories this morning. two more people have been arrested in connection with the london bridge terror attacks. in total, eight people are now in custody. police investigating the killings have revealed that the three men who carried it out had wanted to hire a lorry but their payment was declined. petrol bombs and blow torches were found in the van they did use. 25 people have been arrested on suspicion of committing hate crimes since the london bridge terror attacks according to the metropolitan police. the number of officers on the streets has been increased to reassure communities who may feel worried as they gather in their places of worship. those are the main stories this morning. we will have the weather forecast shortly and more discussions about what the election results mean for
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all of us shortly. we have left mike in the studio all alone. don't feel too sorry for me because i've got some rugby to watch. in christchurch, it is going quite well for the british and irish lions, their best performance yet on their tour of new zealand. and they are playing the most successful non—international team in world sport. at half—time against the crusaders and owen farrell, making his first start, has kicked all nine points for the lions. at half—time they are leading 9—3. a couple of scares for the tourists but as i say a much better performance after the embarrassing loss to the auckland blues in midweek. and there are eight all blacks in that crusaders side as well. england play argentina later, in san juan. it's live on bbc two, kick—off at 8.15 — and at 10 o'clock, ireland face the united states in newjersey.
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for england and scotland football fans, they don't come much bigger than this, a world cup qualifier at hampden park...with scotland badly needing a win, because they're 6 points behind, group leaders england. england will have a new captain, tottenham's harry kane, as his manager looks to rotate the skipper‘s armband, but an away match at hampden, is not an easy start though. . . scotland are unbeaten at home in their last five matches. he's got huge belief in himself and his ability. he has always had that. when he played in the under—21s he wasn't in the tottenham team. he was looking to break in. but he had great self—belief even then. he has really grown to be an outstanding player. there is no bigger international game for us. i think whoever plays england, they want to beat them and
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we are probably at the top of that list, we can't wait to get started. it isa list, we can't wait to get started. it is a great opportunity for us to have a go and be the team that is the first to beat them in a long time. scotland and england are not the only home nations in action today. northern ireland travel to azerbaijan looking to cement second place, in theirgroup. andy murray said he'd had "a good tournament, all things considered", after losing in the semi—finals of the french open. he was beaten in five sets by stan wawrinka. sta n stan wawrinka will face nadal in the final. murray does leave paris in better shape, though, than when he arrived, and he tried to take some positives from his run. i'm not happy right now, i am disappointed and frustrated and tired after a long, long couple of weeks, but i am proud i have put myself in a position when there was a lot of doubt coming into the event and i didn't feel great at the beginning of the tournament. but i worked through it and i accepted the position i was in and i gave a reasonable account of myself.
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england's cricketers are looking to make it three wins out of three, in the champions trophy, when they take on australia at edgbaston today. eoin morgan's side have already qualified for the semi—finals, but australia need a win after their first two games were washed out by rain. england against australia and england against australia and england against australia and england against the scotland, it's a big date had! thank you, mike, see you later. we'll be talking about the implications for scotland about what happened in the last 48 hours. the snp's hopes of a second independence referendum was struck a heavy blow as high profile members like alex salmond and angus robertson both lost their seats. the tory performance in scotland was one of the positives for the conservatives. with us now, john mckee. we have lovely sunshine. it's
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gorgeous, i came down from scotland and it was very scottish weather there. we didn't come here just to talk about the weather. if you would paint picture of who is going where and what scotland looks like politically, paint a picture. of the left of centre country which expresses itself in various ways. it expresses itself in various ways. it expresses itself in various ways. it expresses itself through an snp lens. nobody predicted that the tories would come back in this way because it has been a different beast, but there has been a straightforward appeal to scottish sensibilities. the deal was that the snp went to the left of new labour and corbyn is going to the left of the snp and bus travelling in a way that scots voters like but the left of ce ntre that scots voters like but the left of centre vote is essentially up for grabs constitutionally. it was
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interesting, with independence potentially off the cards for a while. .. potentially off the cards for a while... what you tend to see it even in some of these quite hard snp glasgow seats, in the north east there was one candidate, paul sweeney, who overturned the largest swing of the last election, he was so swing of the last election, he was so big, it broke the bbc swingometer, of allthings. so big, it broke the bbc swingometer, of all things. and this candidate, who was quite a while now shipyard worker, overturned that incredible majority. scottish labour is not dead. buddhism thing we haven't discussed, they are back and kicking. let's talk about nicola sturgeon. what does this mean for her. does she need to reconsider things? it's interesting, the that independence and nationalism has involved is what they call the golden thread of competence. a you
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show scots they can govern themselves well, the scottish parliament will be a success. if you show scots that they can govern themselves well. the problem is that isa themselves well. the problem is that is a technocratic view, what matters results. and then when you get some statistics that aren't so good, on education or health, it's not a very solid base on which to project a feature of independence, it equally we can do things began to better. what the corbyn thing will instruct nicola on is the need for vision. if you want independence, why do you wa nt you want independence, why do you want it. corbyn has done a version of the scottish independence project, he says, will take these powers back from brussels and we will redistribute them. we will do a lexit. that will bring the question of vision back for nicola, why do you want independence. if we take the last snp situation as the high
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point, that extraordinary result,... was it was inevitable that they would reach a different place and this effectively is where it naturally should be? is that the reality check the scottish politics now? i don't think there's any such thing as a natural position in this climate. this is quite important and has been relatively little discussed, the parliament is quite unstable and we could be back for another election in six months or two years. and nose. this coalition of chaos line, the talk of the snp joining labour, or can the tories now scared to scottish labour, there will be other coalition of chaos and they are next to the dup are quite right wing, anti—abortion, quite repellent. before we finish, we can't finish about talking about ruth davidson who had a storming campaign and did extremely well. no
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doubt ruth davidson did well but she did well by running away from theresa may. there's a story that has been denied this morning in the telegraph ruth davidson was thinking about breaking away and holding the work of scottish tory mps. she now denies that. i think that's probably true but she is clearly trying to set her authority on the party nationally now. now that she's got that code. it has been lovely having about. in relation tojohn's comments about the dup unfortunately we haven't had representatives of the dup on the programme so we need to caution that the various claims you are making about what they represent. we must express an element of caution. we have not had them on the programme today to talk through what they stand for and what they believe. and we did ask. we did ask them for an interview. so thank you both very much. i am sure we
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will do that again. let's catch up with the weather. it's nice. if you had stood closer to home in salford you may well have looked at something similar to theirs. this is the scene in the rhondda this morning. it's not looking cheery. why is that? you are not alone if any comfort. in pontypridd. because all this cloud is over the north and west of the british isles, it's part quite a bit of rain over northern ireland, increasingly it will push this to the greater part of scotland. where it's tending to stick is over the north of england, wales, the south—west of england, this is where we are mid afternoon with some brightness in the north—east of scotland, the rain becoming confined to the northern isles, some showers getting into the west late r, isles, some showers getting into the west later, northern ireland not far behind in the temperature stakes,
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all over northern and western england stabbed through wales, once the rain arrives and sticks, the best in the sunshine in east anglia and the south—east, watch out, pollen levels are high and so a uv levels of you see the sun, this is excluding some of you straightaway but that south—eastern quarter, watch out, you need protection. despite this brightening sky is in the western side of scotland, no great problems, then we will push that weather front ever for south east overnight, filling in the client, elsewhere in gold might thanks to those south westerly breezes, so it will hold for the most pa rt breezes, so it will hold for the most part in double figures. that's how we start sunday, a lot of isobars on the chart, a lot of indication of those blustery conditions, show was merging in the west of scotland to bring the occasional spell of rain, show and
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northern ireland, drier conditions for some time that will get some of those showers going across northern and western parts, still at vale of cloud across the south—east until later in the day when the temperatures should rise to 21. can you ever have enough ofjohn maguire, in kenilworth? can you ever have enough ofjohn maguire, in kenilworth? thank you, phil. bright and breezy in kenilworth, warwickshire. we are at the agricultural show. look at those fantastic head of the czech capital. this bull just those fantastic head of the czech capital. this bulljust standing up to say good morning to the viewers. —— herefordshire cattle. it isa it is a chance for farmers to catch up it is a chance for farmers to catch up and they are talking about what happened in the last 24 hours or so. yesterday i was in crew which had
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previously been a conservative seat taken by labour previously been a conservative seat ta ken by labour with previously been a conservative seat taken by labour with a tiny majority. this is what people there told me. i tend to agree with labour policies, domestic policies but we needed a strong leadership in negotiations in brexit and that has been denied so i am not sure what to think. she might be able to get a decent deal on brexit but i don't think that outweighs the policies against what corbyn is given, for the younger generation he is perfect. she was in a good position to call an election and it was clever at the time the budget didn't runa clever at the time the budget didn't run a great clever at the time the budget didn't runa great campaign. clever at the time the budget didn't run a great campaign. if she hadn't we would be looking at something different —— bet she didn't run a good campaign. but these people would be thinking we know the next step. she won't have a free hand now, she will have to do what the others want. i think we could be in a mess. i would have preferred labour but at the end of the day we
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have to do with what we've got. the same as the brexit thing. the people who didn't want to leave the eu have just, we've all got to make the best of what we've got and that is it.l fantastic part of myjob, going around the country and talking to people to find out what they think. let's talk to becky and to george, the organic farmer. becky, you are a teacher and a business person. what happens next. what would you like to happens next. what would you like to happen next as far as you are concerned, have you been watching events closely. many people i work with disaffected or disengaged so many of the programmes are funded by european social programmes. in coventry a lot of programmes finish on december 18. what will finish afterwards and how long until something new that can learn. have you managed to talk to any
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politicians that have given you any assurances? we were heavily supported by chris white, he has however now lost his seat. will we be able to progress? no one knows until that happens, it is a bit tricky. yes. george is a farmer, closely linked with the european union in recent years. what is your view. your thoughts for the months and years ahead. i am optimistic about what could happen. because we have been quite reliant on things that have come from europe and the common agricultural policy and all the rest of it but at the end of the day would put more money into that then we get out of it. it does depend on the government of whatever persuasion. i'm quite encouraged by the result of the election because i think too much power in one place is not a good thing. so if there is scope for compromise, i think there
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isa scope for compromise, i think there is a better potential future. but if it is down to money agriculture ought to be able to stand on its own two feet. and only because we don't produce —— we are exporting stuff that we could sell to people in this country if they ate the right sort of food. a quick answer from newburgh, becky, or not about the negotiations? —— a quick answerfrom you both. it sounds as if you've got a lot hanging on it. i want to know what's happening afterwards, have a little party to plan that and then what happens next, we want to know. george, you seem what happens next, we want to know. george, you seem as what happens next, we want to know. george, you seem as if you haven't got a care in the world.” george, you seem as if you haven't got a care in the world. i wouldn't say that. everyone has some concern but i say, let's stay rational, as nigel lawson says, we have triggered
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article 50, let'sjust get on nigel lawson says, we have triggered article 50, let's just get on with it. really good to talk to you. we be talking to a representative of the london school of economics, maria, good morning. we have been talking all day about how linked agriculture has been with the eu over previous decades, thinking perhaps about what happened next. what are the challenges, the things that need to be in the minds of the negotiators. the three key areas that will have to be looked at first will be the availability of seasonal labourers and what happens when britain leaves the eu. some sectors of agriculture are heavily dependent on workers from the european union such as the horticultural sector. the second area will be the terror threat levels that will be in place. and since they will need to be discussed either at the world trade organisation, and finally there will
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be some kind of replacement of the subsidies scheme that operates through the common agricultural policy right now. complicated negotiations? you smile as if to say definitely. definitely complicated and two years will be a very tight time frame in which to sort the regulations out. and relearning for the industry, for those people holding the purse strings. the £2.6 billion that come in subsidies every year from the common agricultural policy will need to be reinstated in some form in the short term to make sure that farmers are taken care of. thank you, doctor maria chen. the butty van you have become familiar with, could we be seeing more of it, could there be another general election in the coming months? if
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there is we might have to dust off there is we might have to dust off the old butty van, get the stunt bacon out of the pan and hit the road again. back to westminster. we should hold on the repaint. there was a collective groan whenjohn said there might be another election. anything is possible. we've been spending the morning in westminster. john has been talking to people about how they feel. theresa may working on what happens next. let's speak to bronwen maddox from the institute the government. good morning again. we'll finish the programme ina good morning again. we'll finish the programme in a few moments, let's wrap it up for people. as it is we have this minority government, what does this mean in practical terms. theresa may seems to have done some kind of deal with the dup so she can stay in power, so she can get a vote of confidence on big things like the budget, through government. it's got a confidence and supply agreement. that's what we think it is although she has not have long to thrash out
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those talks, so she could go to the queen and say, i can form a government. she has. what happens next depends what the dup will ask. in of concessions. they are very pleased indeed with the position that they find themselves in. but they don't seem to want any of the compromises that come with brexit, and they very socially conservative. that's a problem for scottish conservatives led by ruth davidson who is gay and has said firmly today, don't make compromises on gay marriage or that kind of social policy package, not an easy partner for her but at least she's got on. the dynamics are confusing because there are some tory mps who are still on message. she's doing something confident, trying to build confidence from a tricky position, that some people already say, six
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months? people are already having these conversations, this is very awkward to say the least. you sometimes think the main test of being a politician is if you can just get out of bed and keep going when things are tough. this is some test of resilience. she is forging ahead at the moment. but things are very, very difficult. she's got to get all kinds of things agreed, not just with the dup but her own party. and people will want a much softer interpretation of brexit, of many things. we haven't heard much about public spending and austerity in the analysis of the election, but i think it played very strongly with people, fed up with that, so there could be pressured to roll back on mad. he's going to have to think about a whole series of policies to get them through parliament —— she is going to think. in some ways losers look like winners, winners look like losers. how does that change things in the houses of
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parliament, behind us, on a daily basis. everyone has voted for different things. although we have the two big parties, labour and the conservatives, doing very strongly in terms of russia of the vote, that conceals something that has changed since the days when they were the big two pillars of british politics. because within those parties we have a lot of different voices. when you think about it, the referendum and theresa may having the selection was her trying to get control of her own party. people who believe very different things, for example, about brexit. they look like the old parties but veil straddling a range of views and makes it hard to run. not things are certain —— not many things are certain but one thing is emerging, we talked to a group of young people earlier, it is always difficult to group people who think the same thing that we know that those young people were by and large engaged and for the first time
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turned out in much larger numbers than previously. yes, and in much larger numbers than they seemed to have done in the referendum. perhaps it was regret and anger over the result of that referendum but we are hearing a backlash, young people thinking they have been shut out of europe. we must see where that goes but we are looking at a divided country and one big thing is the division between older people who have done comparatively well and younger people who feel shut out of jobs and houses and saddled with debt and maybe now shut out of europe. and you mention europe, this is sort of what it started in some ways. how does this leave theresa may as a leader going into negotiations which start a week on monday. very, very difficult for her. she will have to agree a position with the dup before she can get going on those talks. she will have to agree, all kinds of
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difficult red lines because the dup's position was that they want brexit but none of the difficult stuff that comes with that. so i would not be surprised if the talks begin more slowly than they would have done. she's going to try to keep to that deadline but it would not be the biggest surprise if it was slow. thank you very much for your time. we've been blessed with sunshine in westminster this morning. we've tried to reflect to the degree some of the conversations you may have been having at home about what happens next, questions about what happens next, questions about the dup and what they represent. it has been a lovely day in westminster. you get a sense of the history of the place here. things have changed in the last 48 hours. we want to leave you with a look back at some of the images that have made the election campaign. brea kfast have made the election campaign. breakfast will continue to be on tomorrow morning from 6am. goodbye
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from us. what we are saying is that the conservatives are the largest party. note, they don't have an overall majority at this stage. seuk—hyun baek unless the exit poll is incredibly wrong the prime minister has failed to achieve her objective. no deal, no coalition. the worst possible outcome would be a hung parliament. i had no speech for this outcome! what a shock. you live by the sword and you'd die by the sword. i'm standing down today as leader of ukip with immediate effect. incredible results, the labour party, because people voted for hope. young people and old people all came together. we want
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the best deal for northern ireland and that is certainly what we will be pushing for. northern ireland is the only part of the uk we cannot have same—sex marriage and it is an issue close to my heart, one that i wa nt issue close to my heart, one that i want categoric reassurance from the prime minister on and i received. and i will now form a government. a government that can provide certainty and lead britain fought at this critical time for us country. now let's get to work —— lead britain forward. you're watching bbc news. i'm jane hill, at westminster, where theresa may is under pressure to try to shape a new government, after failing to win a majority in the general election. the prime minister is expected to finalise her team of ministers and enlist the support of the democratic unionist party.
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the scottish conservatives leader is one of several to express reservations about mrs may doing a deal with the democratic unionists. she has made herself a hostage to the dup, which means she cannot be the dup, which means she cannot be the independent mediator between the two sides. labour took the conservative seat of kensington in west london — the final constituency declaration, after a third recount. we'll bring you the latest reaction from westminster,
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