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this is bbc news. i'm annita mcveigh, live in north london where thousands of people have been evacuated from tower blocks over concerns about fire safety. the government says 27 high—rise blocks of flats in 15 local authorities have failed fire cladding safety tests. here, four buildings on the chalcot estate near swiss cottage were evacuated last night by authorities for "urgent fire safety works". they identified a number of issues in the blocks around the installation, around gas pipes going into flats, around fire doors and the message to me was that the combination of flammable external cladding and the issues inside the block meant the building was not safe. they have to do whatever it takes to make their building sleep and any necessary works they do, if
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they need support from the government, we can work with them. some residents spent the night in hotels or on airbeds in a leisure centre. around 80 households have refused to leave. you have to leave, pack a bag. i said for fire along? the said for a couple of days. what if we don't leave? we couple of days. what if we don't leave ? we will couple of days. what if we don't leave? we will have the police around have you forcibly removed from your flat. the other headlines on bbc news this morning. leader of the commons andrea leadsom calls on broadcasters to be ‘more patriotic‘ when reporting on brexit negotiations. of course it has been very early days. it would be helpful if broadcasters would be a bit more patriotic. the country took a decision. also in the next hour — the all blacks defend their record against the british and irish lions. new zealand gave a ruthless display at eden park, beating the visitors 30—15 in their first head to head
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of the three test series. this is bbc news, i'm annita mcveigh in swiss cottage in north london, where this morning there is still anger and confusion among the residents of four tower blocks who last night were told to evacuate their homes due to concerns about fire safety. other people were centre hotels, others stayed with friends and relatives. this ends i get this morning is one of confusion. not eve ryo ne morning is one of confusion. not everyone knows yet where they will be staying yet on a short time, let alone a longer term basis, while any
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work that is needed on the tower blocks on the chalcot estate is carried out. there is confusion and anger among the residents who were told to evacuate their homes last night, because of fire safety concerns. if we look more closely at the chalcot estate, there are five blocks there. the four blocks — which are home to over 700 flats and thousands of people — are on the chalcots estate in the borough of camden in north london. residents living in the taplow, burnham, bray and dorney towers were evacuated following an order issued by camden council after the fire service said the safety of residents in the blocks could not be guaranteed. people in 83 flats refused to leave their homes and are still inside. effo rts
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efforts are continuing to persuade them to leave. the four buildings are clad in similar material to that used at grenfell tower in west london, where at least 79 people died in a fire last week. and this morning, the government revealed that the cladding on 27 high—rise blocks in 15 local authority areas have now failed fire safety tests carried out in the aftermath of the grenfell tower disaster. earlier i spoke to the leader of camden council georgia gould and asked her how many residents had refused to leave the tower blocks. and put to her concerns about
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residents seeing it could've been donein residents seeing it could've been done ina more orderly way. in my last briefing, i was told 83 households wa nted briefing, i was told 83 households wanted to stay. we're having conversations with those people at the moment. how many those households, do you think you will be able to persuade to move today?m was a really deeply distressing night. i got the news from the fire services that their belief was that the property was not safe to live in at 5pm. we had to move swiftly to move people out of those blocks. people were having their doors knocked on late into the night. obviously people were distressed, we needed to give them that accurate information at the time. in the morning, having the fire service with us and having those conversations with people, we will be able to persuade them. conversations with people, we will be able to persuade themm conversations with people, we will be able to persuade them. if people choose not to move, if they leave
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their flats to go shopping or to work, will you be in a position to say to them, you cannot allow them to re—enter the building? say to them, you cannot allow them to re-enter the building? what we will say to people wanting to go backin will say to people wanting to go back in to get possessions, they can get their possessions but they will have to leave within half an hour. specifically the people who have refused to leave at this point, if they left at whatever reason, with they left at whatever reason, with the year later re—enter? they left at whatever reason, with the year later re-enter? they would have half an hour to gail ann and get their belongings.” have half an hour to gail ann and get their belongings. i believe 100 people spent the night here in the leisure centre behind us. what effo rts leisure centre behind us. what efforts are going on here, some people have had hotel accommodation, what efforts have been made to find accommodation for these 100 people. we had 4000 people in those blocks. council staff and volunteers have been working through the night. we have identified hotel accommodation, other housing, working with other
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boroughs, people are moving out slowly. people are tired, people have had a terrible night. we want to get people into secure accommodation as quickly as possible. when exactly will you be putting them all? the lady you were talking about, she has spent put into our hotel which has provision for dogs. we have got some council housing we have been building in camden that we have expedited where people have been going into that. we have hotel rooms booked at different hotels. we have a range of different options, speaking to student accommodation, doing everything we can to get people in. some people have chosen to go with friends and family. if that is a temporary solution and they want to be the house, they should come in and talk to ourselves. obviously you have based your decision to move people out on advice from the fire service. what do you say to those people the
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manner in which this has been carried out, in a slightly knee jerk reaction, could have been done in a more ordered way. i spoke to the fire service at five o'clock, the told me it was their view that the properties were not say. at that point, it is friday night, we are talking about 4000 people. i said is there anything we can do to keep those people save? can we pay for fire engines outside all of the box, we will do anything to keep people safe. they said there was nothing we can do to guarantee garan —— presently —— resident safety at that time. two days ago i remember reading the statement, in the studio you announced 24—7 fire safety patrols. you considered paying fire crews to stay at fire blocks overnight. the fire service said
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that would not give a guarantee of safety. what they said is that you would need to have four fire engines outside of each block. they said that was not possible. there was nothing be me could do collectively, we have been working closely together, could do that know to keep people safe and that night. so we had to make the decision to move them out. we like to do things properly, we would have loved to have had a proper meeting, had those conversations, but we had to act fast to keep people safe. georgia gould, the leader of camden council there. a story i have been eating since i arrived here today is how people were finding out on the news that the blocks here on the chalcot estate were going to be evacuated. people have been telling me how they started to hear this. they went downstairs to speak to wardens, security guards, who told them, no, nothing going on. you can go back
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upstairs. then they kept coming downstairs and sing, but the news as saying that the tower blocks will be evacuated. they were then told, no, nothing happening. then in the early hours of the morning, and not came at the door saying to people you need to get out of the tower blocks. that was the case of someone joining me now. joining me now is mary ann gilroy who lives nearby. you got a knock on your door at 3am. this morning, when you're young children were fast asleep? yes, i did. it was not a shock. i was waiting for the knock. when i saw the news that the blocks were getting evacuated. i went to tattle and got more information. i got information from councillors. they said it should be evacuated, i do not know why you have got the wrong information. i went back to the wardens and they said it was media
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hype. i went back down and short—term and said how are we lying to you? you need to change your information. a picture of confusion. completely. there was no need for it. i was standing downstairs trying to reassure residents that they needed to pack a bag. they were going to come a lot by block, evacuating people. they would start at the top and a bottom and work their way to the middle. i ran into a neighbour on the 16th floor and his daughter was not knocked on at all. i live on the top floor, high —— how was i knocked on at 3am? all. i live on the top floor, high -- how was i knocked on at sam? the chaos that being taken out of your home has cost. it has been advised by the fire service that the safety of residents cannot be guaranteed. you live on top floor of one of those blocks. do you accept that this was right thing to do or do
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think it could have been handled differently? i think it was the right thing to do. but why for all these years, why fire safety checks we re these years, why fire safety checks were carried out every year and we we re were carried out every year and we were told it was safe, nothing has changed. why is it suddenly not save? it does raise many questions about the nature of those checks that were going on in the last ten yea rs, that were going on in the last ten years, since cladding was put on those blocks. tell me about your children. your eldest who is $9 to school, a ten minute walk away from your tower block. —— nine years old. are you going to be able to live in the area while whatever work needs to be carried out is done?|j the area while whatever work needs to be carried out is done? i do not know at the moment. i could be put up know at the moment. i could be put up with friends and family for a day oi’ up with friends and family for a day or two. the whole community have been brilliant, they have offered to help us out in any way i need them
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too. i hope it will not come to that. if we put up in a hotel close the school for the children was maxed the that would be better. -- children's school. have you had any help? no, nothing at all. thank you for talking to us and we hope that you will get something sorted out their works are you and your family. as we mentioned, not all the residents of the chalcot estate tower blocks have decided to move. 83 households have refused and we've so 83 households have refused and we've so far although efforts have been going on to persuade them —— try to persuade them to move out later on today. ayman ali lives in a tower block on the chalcots estate with his parents and two sisters. he told me why he's not leaving . nine of the council have actually asked me to leave as of yet. the other reason is the windows are not
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surrounded by cladding. it is not compulsory to leave yet, it has only been recommended. you are not being asked to leave the building, you are being forced into it, it is up to you. if you deem it safe or not. the sense i got to speaking to the leader of the council, they would be trying to strongly persuade people to do so. especially if work is going to be carried out on the tower blocks. do you think you and your family may review that decision today? unless they offer us adequate accommodation somewhere close by where we can easily carry on with oui’ where we can easily carry on with our lives as usual, i do not think any of ourfamily our lives as usual, i do not think any of our family will leave. i do not see it as a safety hazard as all. i have lived in that tower block for eight years. there have been faras block for eight years. there have been far as before and nothing has happened. after everything that has gone on, now it is a problem. do you appreciate where the council is then
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coming from, the fire service have advised them that they cannot guarantee the safety of people living in the tower blocks?|j appreciate where they are coming from. they are the reason this issue is happening. when they were refurbishing it previously they should have used the adequate equipment and not something flammable like this. when the refurbished it years ago, no one was asked to move out. why can they not do the same thing no? we do not know for sure who is aware of what material went into the re—cladding and so on, so we cannot see who bears responsibility in any of these cases. have you been given any indication of if you did move out, how long you would have to stay out for? it is just how long you would have to stay out for? it isjust rumours. anything between 2—6 weeks. it is a long time to move out of your house. you have to move out of your house. you have to think about expenses like travel and food, we do not have a kitchen
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if you stay in a hotel, you have to eat out. it is a mess, really. they should have accommodation sorted out before they move people out. what would it take for you and your family to move out? if they would allow me to give them an invoice after a stay in a hotel and receipts from eating out, that is the only reason how i will move out. and also as my travel. i have heard people have moved to wembley and the outskirts of london, i do not want to move there at all. i also spoke to a fire safety expert. i asked about as you whether it was necessary for camden council to evacuate these tower blocks in the manner that it had done.|j to evacuate these tower blocks in the manner that it had done. i was
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saying right at day one, if you have a property with this kind of insulation in, do not play russian roulette with your tenants. we could see how quickly the fires went up and spread in this catastrophe we have had in london. my advice, get them out. hats off to camden council for taking this action. let's hope that other boroughs and other landlords will be following suit. can be callous lie, you will not have —— we clarify, you have not been advising camden council in any capacity? no, not at all. we have been advising and saying these things for years. i have been talking a different meetings, i have spokenin talking a different meetings, i have spoken in front of people who advise government that we would have a catastrophe with cladding in this country and that we will have another set of disasters. cladding is just another set of disasters. cladding isjust one part another set of disasters. cladding is just one part of the scandal. another set of disasters. cladding isjust one part of the scandal. we have heard today with the tower blocks and the chalcot estate that
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also there are internal issues, issues around fire doors, gas and so forth. yes. i know. we know that the legal requirement for the gas pipes is that they are putin fireproof ducts, vented top and bottom if they are ina ducts, vented top and bottom if they are in a building, oryou run them out the outside to avoid the risks of explosion. that is why you have the gap top and bottom. what you do not want is the fire getting too, causing joints to open up, with gas adding to the problems of fire. it is wrong. what do you say to the question of who checks the checkers, who checks the people who check buildings like this and who are supposed to make sure that everything is up to spec and meet safety requirements? when i started in the i980s, we still had the clerk
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of works. we had the architect on site. local authorities had their architects department, their clerk of works department, surveyors department. all of those are gone. know what you get is housing officers specifying reappears and getting people in. the do not know anything about building. we need to go back to the old days where we had the proper checks and balances. we need to bring in the district surveyor again which was stripped out when the glc word. those people knew their business, they would never have allowed the sort of material to be put on buildings. we have the london building act. that came out with the great fire of london. that is why our city of london. that is why our city of london did not turn into a fire storm like german cities did. we had safety. it has been stripped out. people do not know what they are doing. you cannot put a price on
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people's lives. councils are looking at huge bills to do work on tower blocks and other aspects of work that they have to do in response to these inspections of tower blocks that follow the grenville terror disaster. earlier that unity secretary was speaking and said there would be financial assistance for works from councils. our position has been very clear on this, public safety is paramount. you cannot put a price on people's lives. local authorities, they have to do whatever it takes to get to get their buildings safe and any necessary works they do, if they need support from the government, we can work with them, absolutely. if there is a local authority and housing association,
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if they need financial support, not all of them will need it, if they need financial support, we will work with them to make sure they have the resources that they need to do this necessary work. that will not be put at risk. whatever is necessary to keep people safe, that work should be happening, it should not be slowed down because of costs, it should be work that should go on immediately and any council, any housing association needs financial support, we will make sure they get it. well, other councils in england are also taking action on fire safety — birmingham city council is to retrofit 213 tower blocks with sprinklers after the grenfell tower disaster. earlier, the leader of birmingham council, john clancy explained why they've decided to do this. here in camden we do not know what the cost will be. the council leaders said they did not know that some but the priority for them was to get people out if there was any risk at all. as for the costs
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involved in moving people out and providing them with accommodation, we do not know if the government will cover those costs what that bill may eventually be. but the sums we are talking about here are large indeed. that is that further moment from camden. back to you, chris the studio. there is much more on the bbc website about the situation in london and indeed other cities across the uk. some other news for you today. today is armed forces day. more than 300 events are taking place across the country to celebrate the work of our armed forces. a strong turnout is expected at the main event in liverpool where the prime minister is expected to attend. let's join our correspondent danielle hewson, who's in liverpool. as always, we have a lot to thank our armed forces for, particularly for the role they played after the
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manchester bombing, showing that sometimes sadly they are needed on home soil, too? yes, absolutely. the guns behind me, they were fired in salute to announce the start of armed forces today —— day—to—day. they helped victims of the manchester bombing. as well as the gun salute, there was an raf typhoon which marked the start of the parade which marked the start of the parade which passed by here about 40 minutes ago. you can see the confetti behind me. there were about 100,000 people who lined the streets to watch. they headed up the road to the royal box where they were met by the royal box where they were met by the earl of wessex and prime minister. it is now the ninth annual national armed forces day which of course is all about marketing the service of those active service men
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and women, the dedication and sacrifice they make. there is certainly to see and do here. there isa certainly to see and do here. there is a replica typhoon on the doctor amy. the doc has been completely transformed with a myriad of high—tech equipment that people can ta ke high—tech equipment that people can take a look at. there is the frigate which is up the way. later on today there is going to be dragon boat racing and a number of fly pasts. we have seen the amazing red arrows going past a couple of times and we will see the battle of britain memorial flight later on. this has been well received by people in liverpool, particularly after what happened in manchester a few weeks ago. many thanks for that. much more on armed forces day throughout the day on bbc news. the prime minister due to visit liverpool later on as well. the leader of the house of commons, andrea leadsom has said it would be helpful if broadcasters "were willing to be a bit patriotic" with regards to brexit.
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she made the comment while being questioned by newsnight‘s emily maitliss about the uk's position in talks with the eu. we had various different eu politicians, the elected politicians saying it was a good start. of course it is very early days. it has been a year... it would be helpful... it would be helpful if broadcasters would be patriotic. the country made a decision... unpatriotic? are you accusing me of being unpatriotic for questioning how negotiations are going? we all need to pull together as a country. we made a decision one year ago today to leave the european union. the outgoing leader of the liberal democrats, tim farron, has described andrea leadsom's remarks as "a sinister threat to the free media" — and said she should apologise. radiohead topped the bill on the opening night of the glastonbury festival last night, 20 years after one of their most famous
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performances at the festival. today will see katy perry and the foo fighters take to the pyramid stage — as our entertainment correspondent lizo mzimba reports. # i wish i was special # for thousands of fans, radiohead really are so very special. receiving a rapturous reception in front of a packed pyramid stage. # i'm a creep, i'm a weirdo #. this was the musical climax to a day that featured a few unexpected celebrity appearances. # by a tender young maiden#... earlier, kris kristofferson was accompanied on stage by a guitar—playing johnny depp. watching them, another hollywood star, brad pitt. and one more famous face admitted that this was set to be his very first glastonbury.
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yeah, 42 years old and it is my first festival. first time here. i am excited. slightly nervous because i don't know what to expect but, obviously, apart from the great acts and people having fun. i am looking forward to it. later today, names who will make an appearance on the main stage include katy perry, foo fighters and labour party leaderjeremy corbyn. glastonbury would not be glastonbury without the mud. let's have a look at the weather. this weekend will not be as hot and sunny as that was last weekend. there will be some rain and showers in the forecast and it will be easy and windy through the northern half of scotland. a vigorous area of low pressure will bring to the north highlands and
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orkney and shetland, and we will see rain pushing to western areas. fairly warm day, widely 20 degrees across england and wales. it could make the mid—20s and the south east. it will be dry for a while overnight before thicker cloud and some patchy rain pushes to western areas. it will remain lustily in the northern half of scotland. into sunday, a touch fresher across—the—board, brighter weather pushing down across northern parts of the uk. top temperatures in the south—west around 21 or 22 degrees. the government says twenty—seven high—rise blocks of flats in 15 local authorities have failed fire cladding safety tests. four buildings on the chalcot estate near swiss cottage in london were evacuated last night by authorities for "urgent fire safety works". they identified a number of issues
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in the blocks around the installation around gas pipes going in the flats, around fire doors. the message to me was that the combination of the flammable external cladding and the issues inside the block meant the building was not safe. some residents spent the night in hotels or an air bed on the night in hotels or an air bed on the floor of the centre. leave, pack a back. i said that how long? they said a couple of days. i said what if we don't leave? the police will forcibly leave the — — if we don't leave? the police will forcibly leave the —— move you from your flat. leader of the commons andrea leadsom calls on broadcasters to be ‘more patriotic‘ when reporting on brexit negotiations. the all blacks have beat the lions
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3015 in the first head—to—head of the test series. much more for you at one o'clock on those stories. sport now and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, here's holly hamilton.

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