of this country saying, the vision of this country that he is offering, which is collectivism in the face of rampant individualism, a vision of is a different kind of politics to the one we've had for so many decades, that's been quite ravaging, that's created these huge divides in society, that has brought upon a crisis in the welfare state — you know, the minute you have somebody likejeremy know, the minute you have somebody like jeremy corbyn know, the minute you have somebody likejeremy corbyn saying that in a political capacity, people respond to it, because it resonates. but he still has to deal with the issue of brexit because labour is split as much as the tories are. yes, but the overarching theme in context of framework within which that will happen is a very changed framework. he has managed to shift politics and the framework of our discussion to the framework of our discussion to the left in a really significant way. it was mentioned, 50 senior labourmps, and we

way. it was mentioned, 50 senior labour mps, and we saw the list of them, you know — they are still to a degree and oppositionist wing within the plp, and they will represent the majority view within that parliamentary party as well. there has been criticism that he didn't go to armed forces day as well. just put that in very quickly because some papers are taking exception to that. the mail on sunday. quick comment from both of you. i wanted out, says harry, the reluctant prince, saying he considered giving up prince, saying he considered giving up his royal role. it's a very interesting and brave thing for him to say. i think, given the knowledge of the crisis that was caused to his grandmother, she wouldn't take kindly to this. his great—grandmother his grandmother's background... the reason she became queen was because her dad had to become king. it's about duty, isn't it? it's about duty, but i think

prince harry and his honesty over a range of things is refreshing, and has kind of created a much different image of the royal family. has kind of created a much different image of the royal familylj has kind of created a much different image of the royal family. i was just about to say, martin has done his conveyor belt of papers. never let us down. that's it for the papers this hour. thank you to martin and rachel. coming up next it's meet the author. another martina cole thriller, another number one bestseller. betrayal continues herjourney through the london underworld where, in martina cole's stories, it's the women who are the most dangerous. in this one it's jade who is plotting to become miss big. for 25 years, since dangerous lady, this is an author who has made that world her own. welcome. 25 years since dangerous lady,

martina, and the ladies are still pretty dangerous and rough, aren't they? yeah, i think i like my dangerous ladies, and i also like my dangerous men. i normally write from the point of view of the criminal, as everybody knows, as opposed to the police. i don't really write many police procedurals, so i quite enjoy sort of being on the other side of the coin. the other side of the coin — it's where you've always been, in a way, and the brilliance with which you made these tough women the ones who really ran the show, i mean, was that something thatjust came to you accidentally? you just tumbled into it? you know, i come from a long line of really really strong irish women, so i think that's probably got something to do with it. but also, you know, i'm a very strong woman, and i think that comes

across in the books. and also i'm a great believer in women, you know — we don't get mad, we get even, which i think comes across as well. it's about women being put in extraordinary positions in their lives and making the best of it. betrayal, just out in paperback, is i think the 23rd novel — and betrayal, the title, is the essence of the book. now, i'm not going to give away the plot, but once again it's a woman who's in a position where she can really wield an extraordinary amount of power, and some pretty big rough tough men are actually quite terrified by her. yeah, well, jade is a fantastic character. she was a great character to write. aiden was a really terrific character to write too, who's sort of a love interest... head of the family. but also this is the first time i've ever done sort of the may—december romance, you know, where the woman's older than the guy. i like my women to be feisty and, you know, i like them to be able to take care of themselves, and i think that's very important.

obviously you're writing about london and the underworld and so on. do you feel close to that world? i'm not suggesting you're in it! but i mean culturally do you think this is a fascinating pulsating undercurrent of, you know, the world you know? you know, growing up in essex and london... well, without crime there'd hardly be any television programmes. there'd hardly be any books. think about it, you know. everybody wants to know, how do you catch the bad guys? the differences are i don't want my bad guys to get caught a lot of the time, because i end up quite liking them. but, you know, if you look at it, there's so many programmes now on police procedurals, especially on serial killers and all sorts, and i think i probably tapped into that a long time ago, a long time before women were writing my kind of books, because it was always just policemen. there's so many women now writing books about criminals. and do you find a lot of your readers are women who rather

enjoy that sense of, you know, the power being handed over? you know, my readership‘s now about 50—50. i'm still the most requested books in the prison system, and i'm still the most stolen books from shops, which i always find quite... why do you think? even in scotland, in the male prisons, i'm the most requested author. and i take that as a compliment, because these are the people that i'm writing about. and if they think it's realistic, then obviously i must be doing something right. have you done talks in prisons? oh, yeah. i've been doing prison workshops for 25 years. and what do you make of it, when you go inside and face them? it depends. i mean, i was in barlinnie twice last year. i've done a couple of writing classes in there. i do most of the big prisons. i've done belmarsh for years, wandsworth, holloway — it's been closed now, thank god, it was getting really old. but i do a lot of women's prisons, men's prisons. i do the writing class. i also encourage reading.

i've done the six book challenge and i'm still ambassador for that, to go in and get people reading — notjust in prisons, but in the workplace. of course. it's just about getting people back reading books. when you're in a prison, and you're with some fairly ha rd—boiled characters, and presumably you don't know their real names, or what they've done... yeah, you know who they are. some of them you've obviously heard of, but i've never ever asked anybody ever what they've done. no. i think people think you go in and they tell me all their stories, but they don't. i go in there and i do an actual writing class. questions and answers — they ask me things they want to know. and i must admit there have been times when i have known the people in there, and they've gone, "hello, do you know..." and i go, "oh, hello." laughter. but i've got to say, it's very worthwhile. you know, we've got the best education system in the world — it's free, and i'm still shocked at how many young men especially cannot read and write by the time they get to prison. it's shocking. what fascinates you about, you know, the dark side of our lives? well, i think it's what fascinates everybody, i mean, a lot of male authors, you know,

with everything from the godfather, and i think what really interests me is, you know, what turns people. and it can be a very narrow line between an ordinary respectable life, if you like, and... yeah, well, they always say that about the police, don't they, and the criminals? they've had such a thin line between them, you know. another little bit and they would be chasing you, you know, and oftentimes police say that, because a lot of police come to signings and things — a lot of police, especially detectives from certain stations around london. what do they say to you? well, they say, "god, it's just so realistic," "it's so believable." and that's what i take as a compliment, you know. how do you think you found that voice, because every author needs a voice, a sort of confident voice at the beginning... a bit individual, i know, yeah. and you seemed to hit it bang off. i mean dangerous lady, 25 years ago, was an instant bestseller, and you've gone on, you know, with this extraordinary career ever since. did itjust come to you, that way of talking about them, that way of describing things?

i think what the secret for me was i wrote as i spoke, and i wrote the dialect as i heard the dialect in my head. you hear it and it just comes to you? i hear it, yeah. i remember years ago when we were doing dangerous lady as a television series, and johnny woods who directed it, he said, "it was the first book i ever read, martina, where it was just like reading a script. it was like reading a shooting script." he said, "you don't have that much description, but what you have is in how people talk and how they react with each other." he said, "i think that shows." i don't have reams and reams of, you know, if they have long hair or... do you like some of the bent people that you meet? yeah, i mean, very enigmatic. so many people are very enigmatic, you know, and i think people can go either way, you know, and i think more and more the lines are becoming blurred because of what's happened with with bankers and what's happened... it's a very blurred line now between who people actually

think are criminals — people say, you know, "oh, he's a bit of a lad," or "he's a rogue," but the man that'sjust took everybody‘s money in the bank, i think they have a completely different impression. well, that's an interesting philosophical question, isn't it? in betrayal, i mean, you're back in this territory that you know. it's the territory of the street, the territory of the family. it's all in the end about power, and you love to see, in the power game, the women at the top. i do, i can't help it. i do like to see women... i like to think that extraordinary things happen to us, whether we want them to or not. you lose a child, you lose your husband, something terrible happens and you have to pick yourself up and go on, and i like to think that my women have all these extraordinary things happen to them and they come out on top. and i like to think that, you know, we all come out on top. martina cole, author of betrayal, the 23rd book in a series, i suppose, that began with dangerous lady, thanks very much. thank you.

things are pretty much back to normal across the united kingdom. we have low pressure in charge of our weather. you can see this curl of clouds in the north of the uk, the centre of the low pressure and the close you are, the stronger the windfalls. blustery overnight in scotla nd windfalls. blustery overnight in scotland with showers. we will see an area of cloud drifting over the western side of england and wales as well and that will bring rain with it full certainly not wet to the south—eastern corner. essentially dry and closer to ten or ii south—eastern corner. essentially dry and closer to ten or 11 degrees in the north if you happen to be there. as you get into the morning, low pressure charge of the weather. drifting away towards scandinavia with a fair number of isobars wrapped around it so it will be breezy, particularly in the northern parts of the uk. wind is coming in from the north, all north—west,

which is never warm. scattered showers in the north and west, breezy in the east. a decent start the day northern ireland and much of northern england for manchester across to wales. the southern half of the uk it is generally cloudy start to the day. clad in the south—east but dry. 16, first thing. further west always more in the way of cloud and rain. the rate at glastonbury should not last too long and should not be too heavy. the rain becomes light and patchy through the day and there will be a line of central wales, midlands towards east anglia. on the other side it will dry up. sunny spells loss of the clouds and a scatter of showers in the northern half. further south, down a notch or two. glastonbury, already getting towards the last day. rain drying up. like

wind and it will feel pleasant. there is an area of rain into northern ireland ? there is an area of rain into northern ireland? about the timing of this rain. keep an eye on the forecast. it looks like it will be quite wet on monday in more northern ireland. wed in southern scotland and northern england. tuesday, quite and northern england. tuesday, quite a lot of cloud and rain around. u nsettled a lot of cloud and rain around. unsettled start next week and for much of the week you will be u nsettled much of the week you will be unsettled with spells of rain and a bit of breeze as well at times and with the cloud and a rain around it will be not much in the way of sunshine. bye for now. this is bbc news. our top stories: the un fears for up to 150,000 civilians — trapped in the last enclave of mosul in iraq — held by so—called islamic state. yemen is suffering the world's worst cholera outbreak, says the un — as the number of cases passes 200,000. the search for survivors —

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