tv Outside Source BBC News July 6, 2017 9:00pm-9:31pm BST
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source live from hamburg, where the 620 will be taking place. it is not overstating things to say this summit could shape the world's response to other problems. angela merkel and donald trump might be the most prominent personalities in the next couple of days. donald trump flew in from warsaw, in which he gave this speech, with this warning about western separation. there are dire threats for our security and to our way of life. since then, he's met with german chancellor angela merkel. we know they don't agree on many things, including climate change. translation: we know the united states have withdrawn from the paris agreement. all others, or at least as far as we know — many, many others — are still committed to the paris agreement. international trade is likely to be a tension point as well.
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this is today, with the eu and japan agreeing on an outline of the major free trade agreement. in hamburg a big protest has been under way. thousands have been out on the streets, along with thousands of police officers, and it has turned violent in some areas of the city. we will bring you right up to date. and if you want to get in touch at any time — #bbc 05 is the place to go. there are three things i should tell you before we do anything else on outside source. above me is
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the sound of helicopters. there was also the bang of cs gas being used by police. the second thing, if i'm looking at a slightly tropical surrounding its because i'm actually in the middle of a beach bar, which has some palm trees. we chose it because it allows us to broadcast close to where this protest takes place, as well as showing you the scale of hamburg's port. and the third thing, whilst all the world's most important and powerful leaders are here, two people are likely to dominate, the host angela merkel and her most high—profile gas, donald trump. those two have already met in the last couple of hours. we know they have many differences. angela merkel has said recently that the world can no longer rely on the us. we know she says that tackling climate change is the number—i
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priority at the 620 summit. we know donald is pulling the us out of the climate change agreement. we will have more on the protests and the politics in a moment. first of all, let's look back a few hours to a major speech donald trump gave in warsaw. and he got a great reception. chanting "donald trump! donald trump". thank you. effusive praise for poland and polls but also this stark warning. the fundamental question of our time is whether the west has the will to survive. do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost? do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders? do we have the desire and the courage to preserve our
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civilisation, in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it? we can have the largest economies and the most lethal weapons anywhere on earth, but if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive. 6iven given that america has thousands of troops in poland and that that speech was being made only 300 kilometres away from the border with russia, it was inevitable that donald trump returned to a theme that he has spoken about many times, the amount of money that nato members spend on defence. nato members spend on defence. nato members are committed to spending 2% of their 6dp but a lot of them do not do that. poland is one that does. donald trump praised the
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polish government that had this message for other european members of nato. my administration has demanded that all members of nato finally meet their full and fair financial obligation. as a result of this insistence, billions of dollars more have begun to pour into nato. in fact, people are shocked. there are billions and billions of dollars more coming in from countries that, in my opinion, would not have been paying so quickly. justyna pawlak, poland correspondent for reuters, joins us. i wonder how you assess what mr trump had to say? well, i think there was a lot of
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concern is coming out of this meeting, with poland being a leading eurosceptic voice in europe, that president trump would be trying to drive a wedge between the polish government and the eastern part of the eu and the west. i think he had a sort of mixed message, really, praising the polish for spending more than some of the western europeans on the one hand. while on the other hand, kind of slightly possibly encouraging the polish in their defiance towards the european union, by giving a veiled criticism of european bureaucracy, something that the polish government, a viewed the polish government shares. and he had some sharp criticism for russia, didn't he? saying russia was destabilising ukraine? yes, definitely. he also reaffirmed
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washington's commitment to nato's collective defence clause, something both the polish government and the western governments are hoping to hear. but the polish government was also saying in the run—up to this meeting that they were hoping for more promises, possibly, and that didn't materialise. this was a big coup for the polish government, for mr trump to stop in warsaw before coming to the 620. would you agree it's a symptom of a strained relationship that he has with more established european powers, like france and germany? well, certainly this is a huge diplomatic coup for the polish government. but i think he tried... any criticism he had of europe was quite veiled. like his comment about the bureaucracy being one of the
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biggest threats to western civilisation. so i think it's a mixed message to both sides. thank you very much for your time. if you are just switching on, i'm live with you from by the water in hamburg. across the water is hamburg's enormous port. let me tell you more about the city we are in and the event that is going to start tomorrow. hamburgers 6ermany‘s second biggest city, 1.7 million people live here. the port you can see behind me with its hundreds of grains is one of the biggest in europe. it is not by chance for angela merkel has chosen this as the host city. she wanted to say her commitment to the 620's host city. she wanted to say her commitment to the 6205 came with a commitment to the 6205 came with a commitment to the 6205 came with a commitment to globalisation and trade. if we come more closely in on the map, you will see i am right by the map, you will see i am right by the water, lots of restaurants here are largely empty because of the 620. this is a tough area to come
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into the moment. but we're notjust here because we are close to the port and the restaurant. the big protest we will look out across the hour has also been passing very, very close to where i am broadcasting from and i will bring you up to date on that. that is the city the 620. let's talk about the event itself, 620 stands the group of 20, and organisational most 20 yea rs of 20, and organisational most 20 years old. it features the world's 19 largest economies in the world, plus the european union. you will get the usual suspects, us, and 6ermany, china, russia, also places like indonesia and south africa. the people here represent two thirds of the world's population, and that economic impact is even more pronounced. they represent 80% of the world's economic output. so the decisions that take place here at the 620 are hugely significant. let's try and understand a little bit more. ariane reimers is a political
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correspondent for ard network in germany. stefanie friedhoff is a freelance 6erman—american journalist. thank you both forjoining us. lots of conversation, but does the 620 have an obligation to deliver policies or commitments?” have an obligation to deliver policies or commitments? i guess so. it's quite important for angela merkel to deliver something. because she has come up at the beginning of 620 that she will get the paris climate agreement, all the climate change issues are very important to her. it's kind of a shock that trump has left, the united states have left the paris climate agreement. i think it will be very tough for her to get the final declaration at the end and have the climate issue at the top of what she wants. that will be the challenge for her.|j the top of what she wants. that will be the challenge for her. i guess that the 67 wii had a statement from six but not from seven. that's what i expected from this meeting, a veto and 19 in favour. if that is an
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outcome, is that a defeat for the idea of the 620, the idea that all these powerful countries can work in collectively? i think they are trying very hard to avoid 19 plus one. i think they will try to get the final declaration and they might put the descent into the first few sentences and go on with a joint declaration, may be harbouring the other topics, which are not that controversial as climate. at the end they might have a 620 final declaration, that is the aim of the 6ermans, i guess. and have the us also signing it. i have covered lots of international summits but not sure if i have seen one with the security operation of this scale. for viewers in the uk and around the world, can you describe what has happened to this city? the city has pretty much been shut down in the la st 24 pretty much been shut down in the last 24 hours, i would say. i was having a beer last night and then the tracks came in and shut off everything. it very much reminded me of george w bush's inauguration, the
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first time in washington were shut down in the same way. first time in washington were shut down in the same waylj first time in washington were shut down in the same way. i am from hamburg andi down in the same way. i am from hamburg and i brought here. now i work in the capital, and i had walked to my parents home, because there was no taxis, no buses, no public transport. 06 weeks i walked four kilometres. new hamburg. some critics say it's a vision of a dystopian future, with visions of water cannon tanks on the streets and all this security. the alternative angela merkel was to hold it in the middle of nowhere and some people might praise herfor bringing it to write to the middle of one of your most important cities? some of the hamburg people are saying it's a bad idea to bring it to such a big city, shut it down so nobody can go to work, schools are closed, very difficult. a lot of people i know have fled the city, have taken some days off, holiday or whatever. i think she wanted, you just said it, she wanted to have it here as a centre, a harbour free—trade, so that was a symbol,
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and it's her birth town, so maybe an emotional element as well. lots of intriguing head—to—head meetings, trump and angela merkel, donald trump and angela merkel, donald trump and angela merkel, donald trump and vladimir putin, which will you looking for to the most? donald trump and vladimir putin. in the united states now i think there is such importance at seeing how they will act with each other, and what the canister will be between the two of them. that's what i'm most excited about. good to see both of you. thank you very much. you're not going anywhere. if you have questions about the 620 send them my way. you can see questions about the 620 send them my way. you can see our questions about the 620 send them my way. you can see our e—mail on the screen, and the hashtag. we will do oui’ screen, and the hashtag. we will do our best answer your questions. i mentioned the protest. we will tend to those in detail in a few minutes and bring you right up to date off what has happened on the streets and why these protesters are turning out to object to donald trump at this whole summit. we will try to
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understand why. central london has been rocked by series of terrorist attacks. police say there have been many casualties and there is growing speculation that al-qaeda was responsible. 6ermany will be the host of the 2006 world cup. they beat the favourite south africa by a single vote. in south africa by a single vote. in south africa by a single vote. in south africa the possibility of losing hadn't even been contemplated. the man entered the palace through a downstairs window and made his way from the queen's private bedroom and then asked herfor a cigarette. on then asked herfor a cigarette. on the pretext of some being brought, she summoned the footman on duty who took the man away. one child. one teacher. one book, and one pen can change the world.
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education is the only solution. iam i am live in hamburg on the eve of the iraq. many elements to this story, angela merkel and donald trump bourdy matt tebbutt. we know they have a number of differences on climate change on free trade, but they are talking and they will meet again as the summit goes on. donald trump had come into hamburg from warsaw, where he gave a speech in which he said western civilisation is stake. he also reaffirmed america's commitment to nato. a couple of you have been messaging
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saying what is going on with the protest, why a re saying what is going on with the protest, why are people turning out? let's turn to this issue now. we knew there would be a big protest in the past couple of hours, we knew the past couple of hours, we knew the police would turn out and we knew almost certainly that there would be violent clashes. so it proved. these are some of the latest pictures we have. the estimate on how mini people have turned out very a lot. some people say between 5-10000 and a lot. some people say between 5—10000 and some people say more. wheels there are 20,000 security personnel in hamburg, not all of them detailed to look after this protest but we know hundreds were in attendance. a load of police vans we re attendance. a load of police vans were just attendance. a load of police vans werejust behind me attendance. a load of police vans were just behind me and we saw a group of about 50 riot police heading towards a protest a little while ago. we also know pepper spray and tear gas is being used and water cannon fired from these enormous police vans have also been used, as well as surveillance drones and now and then you will hear the helicopters up above as well. bbc‘s jimmy hill is our correspondent in 6ermany jimmy hill is our correspondent in germany and has been following the protest all day. —— jenny.
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it is not over yet. police have dispersed protesters here. it all began very peacefully this afternoon, some 5000 or so people demonstrating in a square a little further down the road behind me. it suddenly turned very ugly as police in riot gear moved in to try and break the protest up. as you can see, there is still a bit of this stand—off going on here. missiles have been thrown, they have been using water cannon, and as you can see, they are trying gradually, bit by bit, to remove the remaining protesters back further down the road. at one stage police were telling people inside what was in effect a kettle, to remove balaclavas, they had balaclavas covering their faces, which is illegal here in germany. it looks like the police are coming towards us, trying to clear what remains of the demonstrators. it will not be easy because they have made it very clear they are not going anywhere. as far as they are concerned, the streets of hamburg are theirs and they want to take them back.
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that was recorded a little while ago. let me show you the live pictures we have now. riot police are on the streets, water cannon are also being used. these are hugely intimidating vehicles, which fire water at a very high pressure. some countries don't use them. the german police do. this isjust countries don't use them. the german police do. this is just the latest ina police do. this is just the latest in a series of clashes that have been going on two or three hours. behind me we have had the sound of helicopters, technote, firecrackers and cs canisters ricocheting across the water behind me. last night a protester explained to me why he was turning out at these events. and we stopped at a protester‘s camp in a churchyard. one man who didn't want to be identified did agree to talk. self called leaders of the world come here and they say they want to solve problems in the world, but really it's the reason why the world
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is so violent, where many people live in poverty. why is this system not working, do you think? the only thing that rules everything is money and making profit. we are privileged here in the northern world. so we can lean back and say, "oh, everything is ok", but the world is not ok, i believe. one of the main protests here in hamburg is called welcome to hell. what does that title mean? hell is already created, i would say. hell is created, hell is the situation here. so you came today, if you recognise only what happened in the last few days here in hamburg, or what happens worldwide, what happens in turkey, what happens in moscow, what happens...
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in the united states, for instance, for many, many people this is hell. there will be thousands of you on the street in the next few days. do you think the leaders are going to be willing to listen to you? not really, not really. as i said, they think, perhaps, they think they need pictures, where violence is on the street. but no, i don't think they will listen to us, and it's not my aim, not my first aim. my first aim is that people like you and me may perhaps listen and understand what's happening here. lots of questions coming in on the
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620 summit. let's try get you some a nswe rs. 620 summit. let's try get you some answers. a couple of people asking, what do the protesters want? it's a difficult question to ask, because there's a lot of different groups turning out. yes, i think they are very different motives to march here in hamburg. the demonstration of todayis in hamburg. the demonstration of today is pretty radical, it's in hamburg. the demonstration of today is pretty radical, its people who wanted to protest against the organisation. they think the world order should be different, there should be morejustice in general. they think the rich countries should not host a meeting like this. it is very general protest, but there have been other marches which have been like general... we've been seeing they want better climate change. some make a distinction between from matt announced that they saw eve ryo ne matt announced that they saw everyone coming to this summit as
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pa rt everyone coming to this summit as part of the same problem? yes, in general it's a protest against capitalism. people are marching against the levels of poverty and how little is being done against poverty, climate change, all the major issues being discussed at the summit are at the heart of what people want to change much faster than the summit. one viewer would like to ask do you think the 620 will take on the issue of north korea? definitely. bilateraltalks, not necessarily on the 620 agenda but definitely everybody will talk about it behind doors. all the meetings between china's president and trump, they will talk about north korea, the issues in north korea and so on. this speech earlier in warsaw we heard donald trump talking about the dual threat of
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north korea and other terror threats. my hope is that there can be back door conversations about what approach to take, because the situation is changing quickly and frightening some people. there have been talks a long time ago, and they might be an initiative to just pick up might be an initiative to just pick up these six party talks again. another viewer wants to ask, is there a fixed agenda? how is the 620 organise? all the papers have already said! there is an agenda. of course. . . already said! there is an agenda. of course... the shared powers have been meeting here already for two days to prepare well what's going on tomorrow, and the big day of the 620. but there are some light issues fixed and they have been prepared for months and years. i think they are definitely different topics which will come out, like climate change, free trade, and health. we
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mentioned some of the issues, let's pick up on a question here... what are the major talking point? i saw a briefing document earlier on the list was extraordinarily long, from the way the financial system in the world is operating, to tax avoidance, to women's economic empowerment. i was left feeling, how is the 620 actually going to organise all of these different issues into something that is focused? there are different groups working on that. they have been preparing for a very long time and now they are coming together and trying to put all these prepare documents and issues together and... the hard work has maybe been done before the summit starts? of course. one last one for you, because of your connections to america and 6ermany. how do you think trump, merkel and putin dynamic will work out? .. merkel and putin dynamic will work out? will it be awkward? yes! in
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terms of the relationship between trump and merkel, merkel has been more explicit about her concerns on mrtrump. more explicit about her concerns on mr trump. today he seemed to be friendly, he shook her hand, trying to make peace. small steps. thank you both very much for those. if you have more questions we will still be on airfor another have more questions we will still be on air for another half an hour on outside source. you're very welcome to send my way. you can get me on social media. details on screen throughout. the 620 officially begins tomorrow, but donald trump is here on angela merkel is here, many leaders are already arriving. we will keep bringing you coverage in a couple of minutes time. 6ood good evening. the uk outlook on the way in the next half an hour but i
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wa nt to ta ke way in the next half an hour but i want to take you to japan first of all. it is the wet season here at this time of year. recent rain has been described as unprecedented and led to flooded scenes here in one of the main islands ofjapan. one of the main islands ofjapan. one of the reasons for this rain if we had a tropical storms that swept across and is now well out of the way. then we saw this line of stationery, thundery downpours that brought a huge amount of rain in a short amount of time. more recently the cloud has thickened up again. more rain in the forecast on friday, probably drive for tokyo. the rain travels back around the korean peninsula, the same rain that affected beijing on thursday. elsewhere across southeast asia, lots of showers at this time of year. the warm winds off the south china sea will bring thundery downpours into hong kong through this weekend. sunshine continues to be the theme of things for beijing. more showers for osaka as well as
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some more flooding possible. in other parts of the world, not immune to flooding at this time of year, south asia. south—westerly monsoon here and very wet weather, more downpours from mumbai and go. across the northern plains to the east of delhi towards the north—eastern states of india, there will be some more frequent thundery downpours. a lot of flooding already, and over the next five days or so there could be as much as 500 millimetres of rain. looking elsewhere around the world, in north america there may well be some flash flooding. these storms a little more localised perhaps a more particular across eastern areas. eastern canada towards the north—east the united states on friday and those downpours moving towards the eastern seaboard. showers in the south, not quite as heavy, these funds. no sign of rain
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in the south—west, but where we have those wildfires at least it is not windy. storms across europe and we are keeping a close eye on this storm clouds that have been developing across spain. a couple of areas of cloud elsewhere. the showers will be pushing their way into the black sea on friday. still some wet and windy weather and cooler weather for moscow. some storms developing in germany and central europe. these funds will also be affecting spain again on friday and we could get some flash flooding around madrid. but it does turn drier here over the weekend forced up by contrast, we get some thunderstorms arriving in paris. for much of the mediterranean, it will be hot and sunny. hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. live in hamburger. night has fallen by the helicopters are in the sky, keeping an eye on protesters and clashes that we knows protesters and police. donald trump has arrived. he
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came in from warsaw way gave a major speech earlier in which he praised parliament adhesive lead but had a warning about the threats —— praised poland. the fundamental question of our time is whether the west has the will to survive. all eyes will be on the trump—merkel relationship as the two most powerful leaders of the western world.
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