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hello, it's 9 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. our top story today — survivors and relatives of those who died in the grenfell tower fire have only received a small amount of the money and items donated by the public. we'll find out why. also on the programme — campaigners calling for the urgent suspension of vaginal mesh implants in england are taking their case to parliament today. it follows the exclusive coverage of the issue on this programme. iam i am registered disabled. i am doubly incontinent and i have no control over my bowel orr bladder. i won't leave the house until i know miss bowel is empty. plus — this is enid. she was rescued from a puppy farm. today the dogs trust releases shocking footage of underage puppies apparently being transported across europe and illegally into the uk — sedated and with their umbilical cords still attached
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we'll bring you the full story before 10. also on the programme today. # i believe i can fly. # # shocking claims this morning that r kelly is holding several young women in an "abusive cult". we'll bring you details of the claims — which he denies — before 11 this morning. hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. and after 10.30 we'll be speaking tojohanna konta —
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who's now ranked number 4 in the world, after her stunning performance at wimbledon this year. if you want to ask her a question, do get in touch and we'll try and get you on air. use the hashtag victorialive, and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today. a bbc investigation has found that only a small fraction of the money, donated as part of the grenfell tower fire appeal, has so far reached survivors or relatives of the dead. almost £20 million has been raised and 40,000 boxes of goods have been donated. butjust half a million pounds of that has so far been distributed to the families affected, and there are concerns that the money isn't reaching people quickly enough. tom burridge reports. it is second—hand clothes heaven. some of the items we've had through have been absolutely beautiful. i mean, we've had things like this. lovely. this is the grenfell tower fire appeal in action, a red cross
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sorting centre in cheshire. donations in the green bags will be sold in red cross shops. black bags are for recycling. brand—new items will go straight back to survivors of the fire or relatives of those who died. it's about turning all the different donations we've had into cash which automatically will then go to the appeal. to appreciate the scale of donations, you had to fly through this london warehouse a week after the fire. it's estimated 174 tonnes of stuff was donated. so far they have sorted half of it, and ten tonnes has gone back to the victims. no amount of money is enough for the loved ones of those who died. research by the bbc shows that several appeals and charities have now raised nearly £20 million. some question why only a small part of that has made it through. we feel that it's betraying
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the public‘s generosity because they gave money to help directly those who were affected and we're not too clear that it's happening. it's like there's a filter and organisations rather than individuals are getting the financial support. charities say the complexity and the scale of what happened here means everything takes time. the thing about these things that we've learnt from the 7/7 attacks and indeed from the response to the manchester attacks, is that it takes longer than you might think for people to come forward to seek theirfunding. i have forgiven, you know, the bombers who did this to me... thelma stober lost her left foot in the london 7/7 bombings. she received money donated by the public. i used it to get myself daily physiotherapy support at home. my determination was to walk again as i was told the chances was highly unlikely.
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it took 15 months to distribute all the money raised for victims of those attacks like thelma. thelma is now a trustee of the london emergency trust. it's distributing £4.8 million of the grenfell appeal. so far, 16 people have received payments. you're in a state of total confusion. a lot of people are suffering from post—traumatic stress. you're trying to understand what has happened, the implications for your life going forward, is changed forever. even here, in rural cheshire, what happened in a london tower block is by no means lost. i can't watch it on tv now. you know, it makes you cry. it's emotional even now, just the thought of what's yet to be found and the people. whether donating an old top or a tenner, people have been moved to act. the challenge for charities is ensuring it all benefits those who have lost so much. my
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tomorrow we will be live talking to survivors of and hearing their frustrations five—weeks after the fire which killed at least 80 people. joanna is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the days news. theresa may has urged conservative mps and ministers to end what she called the "backbiting" that has split the party since the general election. at a reception in the commons last night, the prime minister warned that the choice was her orjeremy corbyn in downing street. was her orjeremy corbyn it's a call for unity that she's expected to repeat this morning when she meets with her cabinet. campaigners are calling for an urgent suspension of vaginal mesh implants in england after this programme revealed that hundreds of women are living with chronic pain and complications. the mesh implants are used by surgeons to treat organ prolapse and urinary incontinence, which can be common after childbirth. mesh implants have already been suspended in scotland. the r&b singer r kelly has denied allegations that he is holding several young
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women in an "abusive cult". a buzzfeed report accuses the singer of brainwashing women, who got closer to him in an effort to boost their musical careers. the singer's lawyer said he would work "diligently and forcibly to pursue his accusers and clear his name". austerity may be starting to affect life expectancy in england, according to a leading health expert. professor sir michael marmot, from university college london, says the rate of increase has almost "ground to a halt" since 2010. his suggestion that it was "possible" that austerity was affecting how long people live has been dismissed by the government. 0ur health correspondent, nick triggle, reports. life expectancy has been rising for the last century, but now a leading health expert is raising concerns the increases could be tailing off. sir michael marmot, who has advised both the government and world health organization, points out that the rate of increase has halved since 2010.
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historically, life expectancy at birth has risen by one year for every five years for women and one year every 3.5 for men. since 2010, however, that has slowed to one year for every ten for women and one for every six for men. sir michael says the situation needs to be urgently looked at. this is historically highly unusual because over a long period of time, for 100 years, life expectancy has been improving, year on year in britain as it has in many, many, many, many other countries. and now it has slowed, is almost flat, which means that we've fallen behind some of the healthier countries. he says it's not possible to say exactly what had caused it but he says austerity could be a factor and funding for the nhs and social care in particular had been miserly. dementia is also likely to have played a role.
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the department of health says it's providing funding to ensure life expectancy continues to rise and the ageing population is well cared for. there should be stronger regulation of advertisements which show men failing at simple household tasks and women left to clean up — according to the body that oversees advertising in the uk. the advertising standards authority has been reviewing its approach to ads that feature stereotypical gender roles. it concluded that such ads had "costs for individuals, the economy and society". as a result, it says it will draw up new rules. the duke and duchess of cambridge — along with prince george and princess charlotte — are continuing their tour of poland. today they'll visit the stutthof concentration camp in gdansk. last night, prince william delivered a speech in warsaw in which he praised the country's courage, fortitude and bravery. that's a summary of the latest bbc
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news — more at 9.30. we are going to talk tojohanna konta later. now the sport. it was a great day for britain at the world paraathletics yesterday. yes, another great day. good morning. three more golds, that is 11 in total. 20 medal overall so far, they only started on friday. two of those 11 golds so far, have come from hannah cockroft. she got the second of those last night in the t 3a 800 metres. she could win a third later in the week as well. cockroft is amazing. nine world titles to go with her five pa ralympic amazing. nine world titles to go
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with herfive paralympic gold medals. she could complete a treble treble while not feeling great. she is short of breath. she says she feels like she is smoking 100 cigarettes a day! that treble treble could be sealed later. sophie kamlish won another gold and olivia breen, a surprise, as she won the t38 long jump with a personal best. great britain just second in the medals table. a little behind the united states. joe root after being revered for his batting and captaincy is on the rack after the colla pse captaincy is on the rack after the collapse against south africa. yes, welcome to the world of being england captain joe welcome to the world of being england captainjoe root. that century against south africa in the first match of the series, crashing down—to—earth, 133—3 out. chase an improbable amount. they could last two session, all out for that paltry amountand
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two session, all out for that paltry amount and the major criticism sta rts amount and the major criticism starts to flow and as you say, michael vaughan who is root‘s friend and mentor suggest england lack respect for test cricket. root says he can't believe vaughan said that and it is very unfair. the series is level, but still those questions about the battle line up. there may be changes and another captain in nasser hussain says some the selections have been abysmal. we wait to see if there is any improvement come the third test which starts next thursday at the 0val. can the women save the gay? yes, ina 0val. can the women save the gay? yes, in a rematch of england against south africa, it is to come in the world cup semifinal in bristol and they will attempt to exact some sort of revenge on the team who beat england in the men's. south africa will be the attempting to exact revenge on the england women's team. these two met in the group stage earlier on in the tournament. it was
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w011 earlier on in the tournament. it was won impressively by england, the same ground in bristol, by 68 run, they will attempt to do the same. these two have provided a good deal of runs in the tournament so far, watch out for the south african bowling attack. they are particularly good. their opening fast bowlers. england may be favourite for the match and they topped the group after six wins in a row, they will be wary of what south africa, a greatly improved team will be able to provide. the winners, will play australia or india, in the final and that will be at lord's. thank you. more from hugh throughout the morning. this morning, fresh calls for an urgent suspension of vaginal mesh implants in england after this programme exclusively revealed hundreds of women are living with chronic pain and complications following the minor procedure to treat problems often caused by childbirth. mesh implants have already been suspended in scotland and now campaigners are calling for the same to happen in england. back in april we brought
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you the news that more than 800 women in the uk are taking legal action against the nhs and the makers of vaginal mesh implants. this is a vaginal mesh. it is used when women have a prolapse or bladder incontinence, normally brought on by childbirth, and it's often made from polypropylene. that's the same material used to make this kind of drinks bottle. for most women, mesh implants work, but around one in 11 experience problems when they disintegrate or erode, leaving some in permanent pain, unable to work or have sex. over the last five years, i counted, actually, i've had over 53 admissions. because you are in pain? because of agonising pain. my husband has turned into my carer and he is so much less of my husband. we can't have sex. we haven't had sex for four and a half years.
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now we have learned more than 800 women are taking legal action against the nhs and manufacturers over the mesh implants and some want to see them banned completely on the nhs. just stop making it, stop making it. it is a device of torture. please, just stop. i want the procedure banned, i want the material banned. do you believe the nhs should stop using these meshes? i do believe they should stop using these meshes. actually, here you should be saying, "honestly, we are able to tell you, here is a device, here is the benefit, here is the long—term harm." if you can't say that, you shouldn't make it available. ethicon, a subsidiary ofjohnson & johnson, one of the largest manufacturers, says the implants have helped millions of women suffering from stress urinary incontinence and organ prolapse. the uk regulatory body, the mhra, believes the benefits outweigh the risks. dr mark slack is a surgeon who carries out some types of mesh implant procedures.
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i have enormous sympathy for the patients who really have severe pain. is it worth it then? not for that group. is it worth it for all the patients? it is difficult to say. a recent review in scotland said mesh implants shouldn't be routinely used for pelvic organ prolapse, but critics called that report a whitewash. a separate review is under way in england and wales. the simple procedure could end up costing the nhs tens of millions of pounds in compensation. it has completely changed my life. i am registered disabled. i am doubly incontinent and i have no control over my bowel or my bladder, so i will not leave the house until i know my bowel is empty. carol, let me ask you about the impact on you of having this mesh. i have got extensive nerve damage in my left leg, in my foot, my hip. i am double incontinent, bowel and bladder. i have got depression, severe, that i have had to go and see an emergency counsellor, and i have got fibromyalgia.
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i never foresaw that having a 40—minute procedure twice would be this devastating. ijust didn't. that was back in april — since then the campaign to suspend mesh has gathered momentum. we can speak now to debbie waine who has lost her mobility since having a mesh implant. it's the frist time she's ever spoken publicly about what happened to her. kath sansom, campaigner for sling the mesh. labour mp 0wen smith, who is addressing a meeting of women, their families and surgeons at parliament later. and, of course, we invited ethicon — a subsidiary ofjohnson and johnson who're the largest manufacturers of mesh to come on this programme — they said no. as did the government regulatory agency the mhra. some regulatory agency the mhra. of what you hear dur conversation some of what you hear during our conversation will be graphic and frank as you would expect with such a subject. debbie, thank you for
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coming on the programme. you're welcome. you can't walk. you use a mobility scooter? yeah. you use crutches. yeah. you can't work. no. you are in chronic pain? yes. and you have recently been diagnosed with ptsd? yes. as a result of this small 20 minute procedure? yes. yes. basically before i had the mesh in, i was quite fit. i was active, walking the dog for hours, playing squash and badminton with my children. it was a good life. and i was at university trying to get a degree for photography and i had a photography studio which i had to give up because of my mobility. i had the mesh put in in 2013, and i had the mesh put in in 2013, and i had problems within an hour of coming up from surgery. in terms of bleeding? i bled out and you can imagine i'm lying on the bed and the
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blood is pouring over my legs. so the doctor had to pack me with gaus 01’ the doctor had to pack me with gaus or something to stop the bleeding and that was horrendous. i believe that probably didn't help my situation and the groin problems because i had tot, it is connected to the groin. and it has damaged my nerves. i had a partial removal by the surgeon that put it in originally and four weeks later it snapped and i felt it snap. it caused excruciating pain. my gp sent me to the doctor and a doctor turned around and said, "you're incontinent, what do you expect?" my legs were going into spasm. i asked why are my legs going into spasm? they said there is nothing wrong with you. it's not the tape. the tape is another name for the mesh, isn't it? i got humiliated when she examined me. when she examined me,
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she told me to cough. and my urine just flew across her arm. and she got the hump. i didn't have anything to wipe myself down. i was treated really bad. fortunately, ifound out about miso kneel. the consultant surgeon about miso kneel. the consultant surgeon who has become practised in removing the mesh from women. yes. cani removing the mesh from women. yes. can i ask, these are some personal questions. i know you feel 0k answering these to illustrate to our audience the kind of depth of this. can you, do you know when to go to the loo now? i have a silly rhyme in my head. i say two cups of tea, go for a pee. i have to keep constantly reminding myself because sometimes i forget. i can go eight or nine hours without going if i forget. so, which is not good. it can cause
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infections. i have to self catheterise to prevent infections. my catheterise to prevent infections. my legs are in spasms. i am on horrendous pain medication. my ability to concentrate, i have got brain fog all the time. and as a result, of five operations, and this diagnosis of the pdst, now, you effectively have ended up losing your home and your husband, is this correct? yes. yes. my husband at the time couldn't look after me and i was seriously poorly. he couldn't cope. so we separated and that was it, but before we separated, when i saw the consultant, he recommended that i try and make love to my husband even though he knew the tape was coming out of my vagina at the
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time. so i did everything doctors told me to do. what was that advice for? i really don't understand why. looking back, ishould never for? i really don't understand why. looking back, i should never have done it. we attempted to make love. 0ne penetration and my husband screamed out in pain. because the mesh... had cut and scratched his penis and it was horrendous pain for me as well and that was the worst thing ever and it felt so humiliating and i just thing ever and it felt so humiliating and ijust felt thing ever and it felt so humiliating and i just felt angry towards that doctor. what do you think when you hear for example the mhra, that's the regulatory agency in this country saying to us, "we continue to see that the evidence supports the use of these devices in the uk for the treatment of the distressing conditions of incontentance and organ prolapse and this is supported
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by the clinical community and patients." by the clinical community and patients. " i just wonder how by the clinical community and patients." i just wonder how many people are going to get crippled before anyone listens to us? what we go through on a daily basis is a nightmare. how can they say it's still beneficial? let me bring in kath sam son from sling the mesh. they say it is beneficial for most women because it is? they say the benefits outweigh the risks, but they don't know how many people are suffering because there is no national register. 40% of surgeons report to their own database. the reality is they don't know how many women are suffering. i have said on this programme before, it is anything from 15%, 30%, 40%, nobody actually knows. so you can't, i don't understand how they can say the benefits outweigh the risks
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without having proper data to back that up because no one knows how many women are out there like debbie on the really bad end of the scale, on the really bad end of the scale, on perhaps not such a bad end of the scale, they are perhaps suffering water infections and lost their sex lives and don't understand why. there is a range of insidious mesh complications. owen smith, you are a politician, what can you do to help debbie? well, the reason you're broadcasting this today is because we have got a lobby of parliament and debbie and 100 other women are come to go parliament, that's a meeting i have organised in conjunction with kath in order to raise the profile of this issue. there is clearly a large problem, a greater problem we have anticipated previously. it is true, that not all women suffer these adverse effects, but those who do, have really grave effects, many of them, debbie's story is graphic and horrible for her, but it's actually not
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untypical, i have heard lots and lots of similar stories relayed to me in the last couple of weeks and if it's 10% me in the last couple of weeks and if it's10% of women who are suffering the adverse events, that's 10% of 100,000 women who have had the procedure over the last few years, that's surely too many and it is enough for us to be thinking do we need to get to the bottom of how many women have been affected and do we need to suspend the use of the mesh until we have got a clear idea of how grave a problem it is? well, it has been suspended in scotland. are you saying it's a realistic possibility that the same could happen for england and wales and northern ireland ? happen for england and wales and northern ireland? it should be suspended until we have got to the bottom of it. northern ireland has announced it will have an audit in order to determine how many women have been affected there. there was a period when this was being marketed really heavily as a simple quick fix easy to do, you didn't need to be an expert surgeon in order to implant one of these and it could solve the problem and for some
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women, it has worked, but that proportion in whom it hasn't worked the complications have been life changing and that can't be right. we all know there are risks with surgery. all know there are risks with surgery. we do, but i don't think the risks were explained to the women. it is difficult to take these things out and it wasn't properly explained. i don't think the surgeons understood the degree of chronic pain, debilitating life changing pain that some women can experience. i don't think they understood how many women can suffer that complications and that's got to call into question the continued use of it. johnson &johnson who run ethicon. it is a subsidiary of johnson &johnson, ethicon. it is a subsidiary of johnson & johnson, they ethicon. it is a subsidiary of johnson &johnson, they tell us calls to remove mesh products are not supported by clinical evidence and research and would restrict access to important treatment options for women suffering from
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certificate serious pelvic conditions? it was marketed for pelvic organ prolapse. it has been removed for the market for pelvic organ prolapse. the clin clael guidelines have changed in respect of that. i think a similar thing is happening with regard to stress related urinary incontent hans. i think evidence is starting to show that these complications only emerge over a decade and it has been a decade for many of the women since the devices were inserted. do you have any idea if this issue is on england's health secretary's radar? i have no idea doubt that it's on his radar unless he has got his head buried in the sand, he is looking at this. there is an outstanding report coming from nhs england that should give us some further clinical guidance and a view, they need to
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get on with that. why it hasn't been produced in its entirety over the la st produced in its entirety over the last couple of years, i don't know, but i'm anticipating that's going to come out soon. it was due and there was an election called. kath, do you feel you are getting closer to seeing what you want which is a suspension of the vaginal mesh implants in england and wales and northern ireland ? implants in england and wales and northern ireland? we have a lobby in parliament ina northern ireland? we have a lobby in parliament in a strong mp who believes in our cause as we do. the media are interested. people are realise that there isn't the evidence to back up that they are saying it is safe for women. we're get there. we have made good progress. thank you all of you. thank you for coming on the programme. thank you debbie, thank you for talking to us. still to come: an investigation by the dogs trust finds puppies illegally transported into the uk illegally — sedated, and in baskets, where their only source of air comes from holes poked through a cling film lid. we'll be speaking to the dogs trust, to people who bought puppy farmed dogs without realising and we'll
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meet enid the bulldog. r & b singer r kelly has denied reports that he's holding women in an abusive cult. we will bring you the full story after 10am. here'sjoanna in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today's news. a bbc investigation has found that only a small fraction of the money donated as part of the grenfell tower fire appeal, has so far reached survivors or relatives of the dead. almost £20 million has been raised and 40,000 boxes of goods have been donated. but less than £800,000 has been given out so far. an estimated 174 tonnes of items — such as clothing — were donated and are still being sorted by the british red cross. theresa may has urged conservative mps and ministers to end what she called the "backbiting" that has split the party since the general election. at a reception in the commons last night, the prime minister warned that the choice
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was her orjeremy corbyn in downing street. it's a call for unity that she's expected to repeat this morning when she meets with her cabinet. campaigners are calling for an urgent suspension of vaginal mesh implants in england after this programme revealed that hundreds of women are living with chronic pain and complications. the mesh implants are used by surgeons to treat organ prolapse and urinary incontinence which can be common after childbirth. mesh implants have already been suspended in scotland. the r&b singer r kelly has denied allegations that he is holding several young women in an "abusive cult". a buzzfeed report accuses the singer of brainwashing women, who got closer to him in an effort to boost their musical careers. the singer's lawyer said he would work "diligently and forcibly to pursue his accusers and clear his name". life expectancy has been rising for the last century, but now a leading health expert is raising concerns the increases could be tailing off. sir michael marmot, who has
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advised both the government and world health organization, points out that the rate of increase has halved since 2010. historically, life expectancy at birth has risen by one year for every five years for women and one year every 3.5 for men. sir michael says the situation needs to be urgently looked at. the duke and duchess of cambridge — along with prince george and princess charlotte — are continuing their tour of poland. it's part of a five day tour to eastern europe. last night, prince william praised poland's courage, fortitude and bravery in a speech in warsaw. 0n the agenda today is a trip to the former stutthof concentration camp in gdansk. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.00. latest inflation figures just out. it fell to 2.6% in june latest inflation figures just out. it fell to 2.6% injune from 2.in may. that is according to the office for national statistics. that is according to the office for national statistics. here's some sport now, with hugh ferris. world cup final is the prize on
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offer for world cup final is the prize on offerfor england's world cup final is the prize on offer for england's women. they face south africa. after straight six straight win, the match starts in around an hour's time. they will hope to do better than the men, beaten by south africa in the second test at trent bridge. the defeat led to suggestions from a former england captain, the current team don't respect test cricket. and three more goals for great britain, the world paraathletic chap cap champions in london. 0ne courtesy of hannah cockroft. she is one away from a famous golden treble treble. britain have 11 in total. their second in the medals table. we have more and you havejohanna konta after 10.00. we do. have more and you havejohanna konta after10.00. we do. if have more and you havejohanna konta after 10.00. we do. if you want to ask her a question send me an e—mail. next this morning — claims that underage puppies are being transported across europe and into the uk illegally — sedated, in baskets or boxes, where the only air comes from holes
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poked through a cling film lid, and with their umbilical cords still attached. an investigation by the dogs trust, an animal welfare charity, has gathered undercover footage showing the shocking practices used by puppy smugglers to sell them to dog—lovers here in the uk. the dogs trust is calling on the government to address the issue. we can speak to runa hanaghan, the deputy veterinary director for the dogs trust, peter laurie, the battersea dogs home deputy chief executive and enid, a bulldog puppy brought to the home as a stray — it's thought she was bred on a puppy farm. matt gooding owned west highland terrier pippin, for a matter of weeks before he died, after being bred in a puppy farm. hayley whillier bought puppy marley which died of injuries
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associated with puppy farming. welcome all of you. how do you react to the footage that the dog trust have obtained? the footage is really scary when you look at how these breeders are operating, and how the trade is coming across to the uk. i think our undercover investigation highlights the whole chain of events that. cops through, and certainly i know dog's trust have put together an animation to convey that to the general public, to make it clear as to where these puppies are starting from and what is happening on their journey across to the uk. to be sold to unsuspecting members of the public here. . it is is important we are able to highlight the issues we are able to highlight the issues we are seeing. what can we do about
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corrupt are seeing. what can we do about corru pt vets are seeing. what can we do about corrupt vets abroad ? are seeing. what can we do about corrupt vets abroad? by lobbying the government through your mp, what we are asking people to do is to add weight to our argument. so what, say what? do what? to change how the uk is managing these animals coming into this country. it has been shown... into this country. it has been shown. . . we into this country. it has been shown... we developed quarantine backin shown... we developed quarantine back in 2012, six months quarantine, that went, has that contributed to this puppy smuggling to you any?m has. we saw in the first year of that relaxation of the rules, we saw a huge increase in the number of dogs coming into the uk, about 60%, from 2014 we had our first investigation, following that in 2015, the lithuanian government did change some of the rules for the vets in lithuania. but that has highlighted in this report perhaps how people are getting round the rules again by perhaps not declaring the puppies and that i are coming n vets are supplying sedatives for the
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transporters to give to the puppies before they come over so they don't have to declare them. there are a lot of loopholes and we are concerned about that.|j lot of loopholes and we are concerned about that. i am not clear what you want, you want the public to lobby their mp to do what, what is the top of your list? in order to... there are so many issues here, where do you start? we want to tighten the borders we have, tighten the checks that need to come in through the ports, we have been working with dover port, we have been working with them with our puppy been working with them with our punpy pilot, been working with them with our puppy pilot, and that has actually helped manage to check a lot of these puppies and to try and bring them through our care. those puppies otherwise would not have been looked after in the way we do. it is not do with the numbers of border officials? there is is a lot of things we are looking for, so one of the top lines is asking that the carriers of these animals, so this is the boats and eurostar are not the people responsible for the check, we are asking for the
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government to step in, and to be the people responsible for those checks. in order to provide weekend and out of hour checks, because at the moment, we are not seeing those regularly. sure and that might be a money issue. let me bring in peter and matt and hayley. tell us about enid. ican and matt and hayley. tell us about enid. i can hear her sort of, is that a happy grumble. enid. i can hear her sort of, is that a happy grumblelj enid. i can hear her sort of, is that a happy grumble. i think so. she is fairly comfortable. he is a different dog to the one who came into battersea in january different dog to the one who came into battersea injanuary this different dog to the one who came into battersea in january this year. you think from a puppy farm. we are almost certain, she was displaying horrific injuries are and health conditions, like what? her hips are badly deformed. she can't walk or sit properly. she has a heart condition and her skin was more like a reptile and that a dog. it was scaly and inflamed. 0ur a reptile and that a dog. it was scaly and inflamed. our staff worked wonders and we found her a wonderful home with one of my colleagues. charities like battersea, we are
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able to help as many as we can, not every dog has that second chance. sure. what is happening on a puppy farm then, a poorly run puppy farm which meant she has so many complications? breeders are putting profit before animal welfare and flooding the market with badly bred puppies. what does that mean? it means in many cases inbreeding so you might have a father bred with a daughter, and that isjust exaggerating genetic conditions that are causing terrible health problem, but also, terrible welfare condition, the state of some of the farms is too shocking to believe really and the dogs that are coming out of there have a tough life ahead and the worst possible start. so it is the scale of the operation and it's a fact that unsuspecting members of the british public are being drawn towards designer breeds, the bulldogs and pulling pugs and so
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on and the dogs are generating terrible problems later. you would look at enid and wouldn't have a clue. let me bring in matt and hayley. matt, tell us about when you bought pippen. what happens to him? well, we went to a farm, run by what seemed to be lovely people, there was the mother there, the bishop there, with —— bitch with three other brothers and sister, it looked like a proper breeder's house. but there was certain things resting on there was certain things resting on the back of my mind. i have seen on bbc, watchdog, about puppy farms then and the in the back of my mind i kept thinking puppy farm, but, i don't know, i was trying to knock things back, i was trying to look past that, not trying to be too focussed on puppy farm, asking lots of questions, even bent down and went to the bitch‘s the mother's
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belly, thinking is that dog or a bitch. you heard stories about how people, pups take dogs in with the pups people, pups take dogs in with the pups to make it look like a little family. everything seemed 0k. two days later he got diagnosed with a heart condition and three weeks later she passed away unfortunately. and do, can i... in and out of vets all the time. numerous thing, diarrhoea, blood in her excrement. coughing. seemed like kennel cough, lots of issue, not the thing you should happen with a puppy, with a new life with family, it should be joyous, enjoyable times. not going back—and—forth to the vet. joyous, enjoyable times. not going back-and-forth to the vet. do you mind me asking how much you paid for pippen. £450. hayley tell us what
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happened with marley. we dent down, we saw an advert for marley on gum tree. went down to visit the puppy, she was the only one left, we were told she was 11 weeks, then we were told she was 11 weeks, then we were told she was 13 weeks when we got her. obviously we were looking for a younger puppy. she was in a pen by herself, which was, you know, sort of rung alarm bells but she was so cute, and, all these things like, all these niggling feelings go out of your mind when you see this puppy, of your mind when you see this puppy' you of your mind when you see this puppy, you get of your mind when you see this puppy, you get this of your mind when you see this puppy, you get this feeling of your mind when you see this puppy, you get this feeling you are rescuing them. you know, i am going to pause you, both you and matt had doubts. you both expressed those this morning, and, and still went ahead, i mean clearly that, you know, that is a regret. think a lot of the time these people prey on
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that particular thing, like, they see that you love that puppy, as soon as you see see that you love that puppy, as soon as you see it. if that makes sense. i have a couple of comments from people listening to the conversation round the country. ahead, i mean clearly that, you know, that is a regret. think a lot of the time these people prey on that particular thing, like, they see that you love that puppy, as soon as you see see that you love that puppy, as soon as you see it. if that makes sense. i have a couple of comments from people listening to the conversation round the country. richie says "dog lovers don't buy dogs like this." people who want a dogs like this." people who want a dog to flatter their vanity and want a dog asa dog to flatter their vanity and want a dog as a fashion statement buy dogs like this. this. jerome says the dog bayers are not dog lovers if they don't take the time to ensure where the dog has come from. what do you say to that hayley?” where the dog has come from. what do you say to that hayley? i think in this circumstances we got caught out. we made a big mistake. but, at the time, it wasn't something that you thought of, obviously it's a big thing now, you know you know. i don't think that necessarily it depend on breed, or what type of dog
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it is. what would you say matt? we didn't wanta it is. what would you say matt? we didn't want a fashion statement. we wa nted didn't want a fashion statement. we wanted a healthy puppy to join our family. as far as i was concerned we did everything we could. we went on the rspc website, to ask the right sort of question, to look at the environment, and, in the back of my mindi environment, and, in the back of my mind i was concerned it was a puppy farm, but, was thatjust a, a thought that was lingering that was lingering from the tv shows? i didn't want to put a downer, i wa nted didn't want to put a downer, i wanted a happy puppy and healthy puppy- of wanted a happy puppy and healthy puppy. of course you did. are there well run puppy farms?|j have not found a well run puppy farm yet i will be honest. my advice to anyone wanting to acquire a dog is to source it from a reputable organisation. if you are determined
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to get a puppy from a breeder, do your research. check the paperwork. meet the puppy with its mother. see the puppy interact with its mother. do everything you can to ensure the puppy do everything you can to ensure the puppy you're buying has been responsibly bred and reared. sorr they are too clever now. sorry to interrupt. go ahead. they are getting clever. you scom on the tv like this, you give everybody the advice, but these alleged breeders are thinking right, how can we cover our tracks now? we will do that like they did to me amy family. they made they did to me amy family. they made the environment look like everything was a happy breeding home environment. everything was perfect. answering the right sort of questions. one or two little falls, butjust questions. one or two little falls, but just putting that to the back of your mind thinking, i'm looking too much at that wag show the other week. what would you say to matt? i have a lot of sympathy for matt and
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lots of people have been caught out. the farmers and the dealers are trying all sorts of tricks to fool buyers. it is a competitive market and a lot of it is being conducted online. take great care and the best place for a dog is a rescue. that's the best source for it. thank you very much for coming on the programme. enid was so well—behaved. thank you very much. fresh from her stunning wimbledon performance, johanna konta will be taking your questions. get in touch using the hashtag victorialive. there are calls this morning for children on the poverty line to be offered free meals outside of term—time. as summer holidays begin across the uk mps are warning that
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as many as three million children could go hungry this summer. some local councils in deprived areas of scotland and wales provide free meals for children outside of school terms and there are calls for this to be rolled out nationally. in thanet in kent, the charity end child poverty, claim 34% of children live below the poverty line. there, we met mum of four kerry, who didn't want us to use her surname. she's worried about how she'll cope during the holidays. wow, you lot have really caned this cheese. i bought this on friday. cereal and toast in the morning. for lunch, it would be, again, something basic. so more bread, cheese and ham. some cucumber for a bit of nourishment. i know it sounds awful. so, you've got your crisps and you've got... we need to get some fruit in,
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the cheapest fruit, something like apples. can i have a vanilla milkshake? vanilla milkshake? i'm actually registered disabled. i'm also going through a separation which means a new claim for employment support allowance. my housing benefit has been stopped, so i am going to hugely struggle in the holidays. at the moment, how much do i have to spend? i look at it and i think i actually don't have anything, but... yeah, my shopping bill has got down to about £30 a week. for how many? for five of us — four children and myself. and that's while they're at school. so, that will double. that is going to actually double the balance of what i need
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at the supermarket. at least £50 a shop, i'm going to need. are you worried? yeah, the more i talk about it! i'm petrified to be honest with you. we're in one of the most deprived areas in the uk. the huge problem we have got around here is the lack of employment. up to half of the children in this area are living in poverty. how are families around here going to cope over the summer? i think it's going to be something that comes up and hits people in the face. it's all happening the same week as we've got universal credits being brought in, being enroled into the thanet area and thanet postcodes. that is going to be another huge shock. if somebody, a family, needs to make a fresh claim during the summer holidays, they are going to be facing huge problems. so, do you think children around here are going to go
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hungry over the summer? i can see that happening, yes. i think a lot of people wouldn't want to admit they can't feed their children. it's notjust families on benefits. it will be the working poor that suffer too. but it is just so hard and so gut wrenching and stressful, extra worries put on top of extra worries, and this is what we're seeing so often. there's so little support for so many. with these guys, they don't obviously see the... i don't want them to see the panic of how desperate we are for the food. it's not as some politicians will say, to buy a new widescreen tv. we're not saving pennies for anything like that. we are saving to buy butter, milk and bread, and it is literally as tight as that.
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let's talk to frank field a labour mp who chairs the all party parliamentary group on hunger. he wants councils to be made responsible for free meals in the holidays. erica martin, who has two children, an 11—year—old boy and ten—year—old girl. she lives with her partner who is a carer. she receives income support and tax credits and reckons after housing costs she has about £140 a week to live on for her family of four. welcome both of you. erika, i know you get free school meals during term time. what happens during the holidays? well, during the holidays, there is an organisation called the stjames there is an organisation called the st james centre who offer free meal to say anybody. they offer breakfast and lunch. it takes the strain off most people. and that is for anybody whether they are working or not working. so it's really helpful. and if that wasn't there, if the st
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james' centre wasn't there, what would you do in the holidays? just try and spread the meals out and work out what, how we can sort of eat the best way, but it's the same for anybody i think. there is a lot of struggles in the suller holidays with days out arthings like that so you need to work it out the best you can. let me bring in frank field then. a report from a group of mps this year talked about three million children being hungry during the summer holidays. some people won't believe it. they will say look, we live in the fifth richest economy in the world. this is britain. this is 2017, come on, you can always feed your kids. what do you say to those people? they should be sceptical and push mps when they produce figures like that. we have had the long—term changes occurring, the bottom of the labour market has fallen out. all the welfare cuts have been on
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families, pensioners have been protected and pensioners have never been before off as a group than they are now and we heard about the st james' centre in birkenhead, during the school holidays, voluntary bodies feed 2,000 children and over the last year, thanks to largely supplies from his church we have provided 200,000 breakfasts for children. so, it is a topsy—turvy world. you would have thought fifth or sixth richest country in the world, and yet, some children go to bed hungry and get up hungry and ta ke bed hungry and get up hungry and take the hunger to school. we are trying to make sure during the term time that children are well fed, but saying to the government you have a duty now to require local authorities to co—ordinate what we're trying to do in birkenhead and
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feeding britain is doing this elsewhere in the country. local authorities... they haven't got any money. their budgets are stretched. they decide their priorities. you would organise this is a priority. it would be ring—fenced so they couldn't go and spend it on something else. feeding children during the school holidays when we know that numbers going to foodbanks goes up. one little girl last summer came to one of our projects and because we always provide fun with the meals, because middle—class kids thank god get fun during the holidays, why shouldn't the poorest children get that, she said i am so hungry, mighti children get that, she said i am so hungry, might i come in, i don't mind not having the fun, but may i have the food please? how do you react to that? well, it is gut wrenching and redoubling the efforts, not only in birkenhead, but making sure that we can get that service rolled out over the whole
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country. not again for the local authorities to provide, but they have a duty to make sure like we've done throughout feeding britain projects that we combine voluntary bodies who have been terrific in birkenhead, are given the resources to make sure that every child, even though we provide 2,000 meals during the school holidays, there was that little girl turning up, she hent been covered saying, "can i come in, i'm hungry?" you will have heard some say it is because parents can't budget properly? there are clearly pa rents budget properly? there are clearly parents who couldn't give a toss and it is ludicrous to deny and you wonder why the hell they have got children and then there are others who are at their wits end trying to do their best by their children. who are driven almost mad by the
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difficulties of budgeting particularly when the government ta kes particularly when the government takes money off by sanction. particularly we are now at the almost at the end of this of we hope almost at the end of this of we hope a period of welfare cuts for families. as i say pensioners had a good deal, but those with children have seen their real living standards cut and we have got all the evidence one would wish to see before particularly from teachers in schools who have been providing in birkenhead breakfasts out of their own money now actually signing up for the actual supplies, bodies like his church provide so they can provide breakfasts free. we are after getting the government to do its duty. a viewer on fwirt says, "the true legacy of the crash caused by bankers is three million kids in poverty. they are the victims.
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jackie on twitter, "we are saving for butter, bread and milk. this government is heartless and i'm utterly, utterly ashamed of it." a spokesperson for the department for work and pensions told us: "there are record numbers of people in work, and we've doubled free childcare. £90 billion is spent supporting people who are out of work, disabled or a carer, bringing up a family or on a low income". frank field thank you very much and erika martin, thank you. thank you for your comments on puppy farm and where you buy puppies from and on the campaign to get mesh implants suspended in england and wales and northern ireland. that reaches the westminster parliament today. already been suspended in scotland as you will know if you have been watching our programme over the last few months. marie on e—mail says, "i have had two mesh operations on my bladder and now i'm concerned about what i need to do, what is the alternative?" alison says, "why does
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the nhs not look at best practise elsewhere? is it about cost saving? i monday wonder how ed operations would be avoided by the french policy of routine physiotherapy for new mums?" and hilary has e—mailed, "18 years ago, i had two pregnancy which left me with a few incouldn't te nta nce which left me with a few incouldn't tentance problems. thank god i was offered intensive physio. the exercises which i do have almost eliminated my problems and having seen your previous coverage on the subject, i have cancelled both of my corrective ops after a lot of sole searching. it didn't seem worth the risks. " on puppy farms and the illegal breeding and transporting of puppies from eastern europe, donna texts this, "i have e—mailed my mp whilst watching your programme. it brea ks whilst watching your programme. it breaks my heart. this is too cruel. thank you for highlighting this and
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telling us how to help end the cruel p°upy telling us how to help end the cruel poupy farms." telling us how to help end the cruel poupy farms. " thank telling us how to help end the cruel poupy farms." thank you for those. we will bring you the latest news and sport in a moment. before that, the weather. good morning. yesterday temperatures got up to 27 celsius in the south. today we could see the temperature reaching about 30 celsius. this morning, it started off cloudy. some hazy sunshine out there. this was the scene in warwickshire a short time ago, but there is sunshine particularly across the far south of england and across scotland and northern ireland. some blue skies here as well. another warm and sunny day, but later ob, the risk of some storms. these storms are just developing now actually across the bay of biscay and britney. you notice the oranges developing. temperatures getting up to about 20, 21 celsius in the southment for the rest of this morning, the cloud we have got in central areas will thin or break up to give sunny spells,
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but by far the west best of the sunshine is across scotland and northern ireland. here with the blue skies, temperatures getting up to 25 or 26 celsius in western scotland and northern ireland. a bit fresher along the north sea coasts. the heat really building across the south. we could see temperatures up to 29 and 30 celsius. but by this stage, we will start to see showers moving in across the south—west. those turning increasingly thundery as we go through this evening and tonight. wanted a happy puppy and healthy puppy. of course you did. there you catch a shower there will be strong winds, torrential rain as the thund thunderstorms move their way northwards. overnight temperatures no lower than to 18 c. on wednesday, the thunderstorms still a feature of the weather. this time in northern area, gradually moving further into scotland, and the meantime, more rain spreads into
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northern ireland, gradually moving eastwards, elsewhere, one or two showers round but still hot across the south—east, temperatures 30, 31, maybe 32, but just the south—east, temperatures 30, 31, maybe 32, butjust turning that bit fresher in northern and western area, 18—20 degrees here, as we go into thursday, we have this cold front, which is moving east ward, behind it, fresher air, and that is fresher air will filter in across all parts during thursday. early morning rain clearing away, more rain spreading into the west but look at the temperatures, 16—22 degreef look at the temperatures, 16—22 degree f you don't like the heat, thursday certainly turning fresher, fresher still on friday but the risk of heavy rain in northern around western areas that will move south and east ward: bye. hello, it's 10 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. welcome to the programme. a bbc investigation has found that only a small fraction of the money donated as part of the grenfell tower fire appeal has so far reached survivors or relatives of the dead. also on the programme — campaigners calling for the urgent
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suspension of vaginal mesh implants in england are taking their case to parliament today. one women tells this programme the devastating impact her implant has had on her life. iamon i am on horrendous pain medication, my ability to concentrate, i have brain fog all the time. we'll also be speaking to a gynaecologist who has been warning about the dangers of the implant since the 1990s. also this: r kelly has denied reports he is holding women in an abusive cult. we will bring you the full story, in the next half hour. we will bring you the full story, in the next half hour. johanna konta, the women's number four player in the world will be taking your questions. it's been 39 years since a british
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woman can say i'm a wimbledon semifinalist. she did a bit more than that. you know what she did. you know what she did. if you want to ask her a question — do get in touch — and we'll try and get you on air. use the hashtag victorialive. good morning. here'sjoanna in the bbc newsroom, with a summary of todays news. a bbc investigation has found that only a small fraction of the money donated as part of the grenfell tower fire appeal, has so far reached survivors or relatives of the dead. almost £20 million has been raised and 40,000 boxes of goods have been donated. but less than £800,000 has been given out so far. an estimated 174 tonnes of items — such as clothing — were donated and are still being sorted by the british red cross. consumer price inflation at which
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the rate of prices and goods rise or fall stood at 2.6% injune, down from 2.in may it follows falls in global oil prices. campaigners are calling for an urgent suspension of vaginal mesh implants in england after this programme revealed that hundreds of women are living with chronic pain and complications. the mesh implants are used by surgeons to treat organ prolapse and urinary incontinence which can be common campaigners are calling for further research into the scale of the problem. the reality is they don't know how many women are suffering, i have said before, i have seen reports that say it is anything from is a %, 30%, 40%, you, nobody knows, so, you can't, i don't understand how they can't, i don't understand how they
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can say the ben fights outweigh the risk without having proper data to back it up. at reception in the commons, the prime minister warned that the choice was her orjeremy corbyn, in downing street. it is a call for unity that she is expected to repeat this morning when she meets the cabinet. there should be stronger regulation of advertisements which show men failing at simple household tasks and women left to clean up — according to the body that oversees advertising in the uk. the advertising standards authority has been reviewing its approach to ads that feature stereotypical gender roles. it concluded that such ads had "costs for individuals, the economy and society". as a result, it says it will draw up new rules. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag victorialive. if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. here's some sport now with hugh ferris. england's women can reach
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their second final in three attempts at the cricket world cup today... they take on south africa in the semi final in bristol in around half an hour's time. south africa have won the toss. the winner will take on either australia or india in the final at lord's on sunday. england have won their last six games in the tournament, including against today's opponents, and finished first of the four semi—finalists in the group stage. obviously there be added nerves, we wouldn't be human if that wasn't the case. we trust in our skills and we are confident we can put in a strong performance and those big games you wa nt to performance and those big games you want to do well in. england's men have been criticised for showing a lack of respect for test cricket after losing heavily to south africa at trent bridge. the suggestion came from former england captain michael vaughan... england captain michael vaughan, who is a good friend of new captainjoe root... who was one of the batsmen who failed to make an impact in england's second innings
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score of 133 all out. root claims the criticisms are ‘very unfair'... but with the series now level... there could still be changes for the third test at the oval next week. there has opinion a contrast in motions, but i think we obviously need to look at certain areas but we don't want to dwell on them. we need to stay tight as a squad and make sure when we turn up we that we are ready to go, and make sure we go 2—1 up ready to go, and make sure we go 2—1 up in the series. and make sure we go 2—1 up in the series. romelu lukaku has scored his first goal in a manchester united shirt in their friendly against real salt lake. it was the £5 million signing's first start for his new club too. and he helped united come from behind to win 2—1 in utah. not all good for his team though... antonio valencia was sent off. and juan mata forced off with an ankle injury. and that is all we have for the moment. headlinesjust after and that is all we have for the moment. headlines just after half ten good morning. headlines just after half ten good morning. r&b singer r kelly has denied
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allegations that he is holding several young women in an "abusive cult". he's most famous for this. # i believe i can fly # i believe i can fly # i believe i can touch the sky # i believe i can touch the sky # i believe i can touch the sky # i think about it every night and day # spread my wings and fly away. # # a buzzfeed report accuses the singer of brainwashing women, who got closer to him in an effort to boost their musical careers. .the 50 year old has faced previous accusations of sexual misconduct, but was never found guilty. his lawyer says on these latest allegations, he'll work "diligently and forcibly to pursue his accusers and clear his name". we should be clear that as adults, these woman are free to consent to any form of relationship and that police welfare checks in illinois and georgia did not lead to any action being taken. the families of one of the women has called for her to come home. release these girls. and put them
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back where they belong. my daughter was off in college at the time, and she was, i haven't seen her since.” have pictures of where the house was, inside this house where he resided, where rooms set up for like a hotel for the girls, to stay in and he also had a black room, where he had, where they do different sexual acts in and he had the separate room, three separate rooms, which they had all like setup. my daughter is severely brainwashed, to the point where she says anything he asks her to say, she is not the same jocelyn that we knew, so we just wa nt jocelyn that we knew, so we just want him to release her and let her
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go want him to release her and let her go and get on with her life. she has taken go and get on with her life. she has ta ken too many go and get on with her life. she has taken too many young girls over the years and ijust want her home and to try to get her rehabilitated to the jocelyn we know and miss. in an interview with the entertainment website tmz, their daughterjocelyn savage denied that she was being held hostage. i'm 21,i i'm 21, iam i'm 21, i am about to be 22 in five days and i mainly want to say that i am ina days and i mainly want to say that i am in a happy place with my life, and i'm not being brainwashed or anything like that, you know, it came toa anything like that, you know, it came to a point where it has got out of hand, so you know, ijust want everybody to know my parents and everybody to know my parents and everybody in the world, that i am totally fine, i'm happy where i'm at and everything is ok with me. you are not being held against your will or doing anything you do not want to do? oh, no. not at all. never been
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held hostage or anything of that nature. why is your family coming forward and have asked for a welfare check, why do you think now?” personally, i don't really know what's going on with that, so i wouldn't want to answer that, at this moment. the last time i spoke to my parents may have been about on and off about five, six months, i haven't spoken to them. they have been causing problems in my life, saying i have been held against my will, stuff like that, i am very heartbroken, of what is going on with this situation, it is getting toa with this situation, it is getting to a point where it is getting too much out of hand, you know, me having to deal with this and being 22, isjust, you know it is not right, so i haven't spoken to them mainly in about five or six months really. on and off. i mean they will text me from time to time, but, i haven't really wanted to speak to them because of what they're doing. are you in georgia or where are you?
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i'm not, no, i'm are you in georgia or where are you? i are you in georgia or where are you? i'm not, no, i'm not. iwouldn't wa nt to i'm not, no, i'm not. iwouldn't want to speak on that. are you with or roommates, are you free to go from where you are? no. i won't speak on that as well. wow. the story was broken by buzzfeed. sam wolfson has been following the story. he is the executive editor of vice uk. let us start with the accusations against r kelly, because there are many of them and they are detailed and they come from three women who have left him. yes. i mean the story is very well reported, like you say there are lots of sources and they all seem to talk about a similar pattern of behaviour, that i say that these women, r kelly would offer them moussical opportunities and they would move into homes either his or in the area, and almost immediately they would have to dress in the same way, he wanted
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them to wear sweat pants so other men wouldn't look at them. they had to ask for permission to go to bathroom or leave the room. they we re bathroom or leave the room. they were reporting he would physically attack them if they spoke to other men or he thought they were looking at another man. and it is quite a, i mean people are using the world cult and it does seem like that, that he had a kind of big group of women who we re had a kind of big group of women who were all under these very strict worrying rules, and then the probably the most shocking bit is he video tapes sex with all of them, and the reports claim he shared those videos with his friends. we know he said he has done nothing wrong an his lawyer said he will pursue the accuser, these in particular these three women. tell usa particular these three women. tell us a bit about his past, because it is controversial. yes, i mean, r kelly, he is a huge r & b star, you
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know, both kind of the club track playing behind us but he does a lot of emotional church music, i believe ican of emotional church music, i believe i can fly one of his biggest hits. throughout his career he has been dogged by controversy, most famously he was alleged to have married alia when she was 14. and there has been not one or two, but dozens of other claims against him, many of which there have been settled out of court, many of which involve accusations of sex with under age women, there was one major case for which he was acquitted, but even in that case, there was a piece of video evidence which is part of public record and showed him urinating in the mouth of a woman who was under age at the time, and so, you know, throughout his career there have been this kind of long, he has denied all accusations, he has fought cases very strongly as he plans to do with this case. we heard
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from jocelyn there, who said it is fine, iam from jocelyn there, who said it is fine, i am fine, i can do what i want. it got bizarre when asked where she was and in which home, she didn't want to go into that detail. you hear her parents saying the com plete you hear her parents saying the complete opposite. for a parent watching that video, i don't know how much comfort that would bring. but it is true the women are all adult women and they can make the decisions but i guess what the police need to do in that circumstance is find out if that's actually what st going on if there is undue duress there. it is hard watching that video and seeing it so closely cut so that you would have no idea where she was and things like that. it doesn't seem like an open situation, but these women are saying, all the women who are currently involved with r kelly saying they are happy and it is a consensual relationship and so on. still to come: is there an end in sight for sexist ads that stereotype men and women? the advertising regulator is calling
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for them to be banned. we'll be discussing that just after 10.45am. let's return to our story this morning about fresh calls for an urgent suspension of vaginal mesh implants in england, wales and northern ireland after this programme exclusively revealed hundreds of women are living with chronic pain and complications, following a minor procedure to treat problems often caused by childbirth. mesh implants have already been suspended in scotland and now campaigners are calling for the same to happen in england. we can talk now tojohn osborne. he is a retired obstetrician and uro—gynaecologist. he warned about what he sees are the dangers of mesh implant as early as the 1990s. simonjackson is a consultant uro—gynaecologist at the john radcliffe hospital in oxford. he thinks the mesh has an unfair reputation and it's effective in most cases.
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good morning both of you. thank you very much for coming on the programme. john osborne, you say, effectively, you pretty much predicted the problems with mesh as far back as the 90s, but no one listened to you. in the 60s a previous mesh operations carried out in oxford and when i was doing research in the 70s i come across those papers. i also at that time, the urologist this is up to ten yea rs the urologist this is up to ten years after the mesh was put in, we re years after the mesh was put in, were having to take out the meshes they were putting in in the 60s and they were putting in in the 60s and the operation to take it out is very difficult. it requires a reconstructive surgeon to do it. i spoke to the surgeon last night and he has distinct memories of it. so what were the problems back then? the same as the problems they are having with the mesh. the mesh becomes incorporated into the tissues. it may erode into the you
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ary that and cause pain. the same thing is happening now. let me bring in simonjacks son. talk thing is happening now. let me bring in simon jacks son. talk to mr osborne because you think this operation, this procedure, we should continue with it? yes. the problem with prolapse and incontinence is that the ligaments are weak. and if we don't do something to strengthen the ligaments the outcomes from surgery are very the ligaments the outcomes from surgery are very poor. and mesh is something that can help us with these problems. undoubtedly there could be problems. but there could be benefits and we need to weigh up the risks and the benefits with these operations. i think the problem is that the risks and benefits are not really properly publicised. the reporting of the complications has not been adequate i don't think and part of the problem is that the surgeons that
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put in the mesh are not the ones that have to take it out because the skills required to take it out are different to the skills to put it in and there are very few people who have have that skill to operate around the bladder neck without leaving the patient totally incontinent. do you accept that? well, we do go into the details and some people haven't and some women haven't been adequately counselled. the mesh we have got most experience with is called the tvtt has been used for urinary stress incontinence. it was introduced in 1996. i have got 17 years experience with that mesh and we have seen some problems, but we haven't seen problems, but we haven't seen problems in the majority of our pabts. 17 year data has been
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published for that operation and it is still being used which is very good for an operation if you think technology moves on quickly in medicine just like in other areas and foran medicine just like in other areas and for an operation to still be probably the gold standard 20 years down the line is pretty i will pressive. yes, i mean how do you respond to thatjohn osborne. pressive. yes, i mean how do you respond to that john osborne.” don't think it is a gold standard. the fact is it has been overused. some of the people putting it in, not simon because especialised in it, it has been put in by general gynaecologists and people who have had the operation when they don't need a operation when they would be better off having physiotherapy. jane contacted us this morning after watching our konch. she had the mesh prays in 2009 and simonjackson who is with us today was her surgeon and he has agreed to talk to her this
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morning. jane, can you hear me ok? yes, ican morning. jane, can you hear me ok? yes, i can hear you. so tell us what has happened since you had the mesh implant? i had the mesh down in 2009 following extensive stress incontinence. within months, it had eroded or fallen through into my va inthat. it was like the bristle of a scrubbing brush which cut me and made me bleed. it caused repeated infections. i went back to the hospital, had it trimmed back and stitched over. it subsequently eroded again. i required another operation to trim and stitch it over. it worked for a while. but it is now eroded jet again. i visited my gp is now eroded jet again. i visited mygpa is now eroded jet again. i visited my gp a couple of weeks ago and she did an internal inspection and said yes, indeed, it was through. i
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questioned her at that point and said if it was you, can i ask you honestly would you have this done to yourself? and she said no way. can i ask you jane, were you told about the potential complications, the risks? no. mrjackson? i'm sorry jane that you have had these problems. and i can't comment specifically on your case because i don't actually know your name and i haven't seen your case notes. but... sorry to interrupt, do you believe jane when she says she was not warned by you about the potential risks? in 2009, ithink warned by you about the potential risks? in 2009, i think we knew there were risks. the risks with mesh implants have become apparent over the years. the tvt sling which we put in and we still do put these into women after appropriate counselling has a risk of erosion
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and we would tell our patients about that. let me ask jane. what was said to jane, that. let me ask jane. what was said tojane, i that. let me ask jane. what was said to jane, i don't know. were you told about the risks of erosion? definitely not. it has rubbed my sex life. i can't run. i can't play tennis. i can't ride a horse. it has affected my income. i have been given the advice that i should carry on taking hrt patches. i'm nearly 60. and that i will have to take oestrogen cream internally for the re st of oestrogen cream internally for the rest of my life. la do you want to say to moo pelvic organ prolapse jackson? he needs to talk directly to women such as myself who have experienced these problems and go on experiencing them. it is notjust women, it is also men. i know that's not his area. but it affects men too with hernias. it is life changing. it causes me daily problems. it is a
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horrendous treatment and i think you have to look at the fact that we worry about putting plastic into oceans and yet we are putting plastic into how old beings. it can't possibly be right. simon jackson will you meet jane? jane, you have had terrible problems by the sounds of things and we see problems with our own patients and we also see problems from around the uk. we are a mesh centre. with deal with the complications as john as burn was talking about earlier, dealing with some of these complications can be tricky, but for every patient like you, there are many others who have had a very good outcome and i think we need to balance that up and patients do need information and they need to be aware of current guidelines. they need to know what the risks and the potential benefits are for both mesh
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and non mesh surgery and they make and non mesh surgery and they make an informed decision. 0k. an informed decision. ok. thank you very much mrjackson, thank you for talking to jane. we appreciate that. simonjackson is a co nsulta nt appreciate that. simonjackson is a consultant euro gynaecologist at the john radcliffe hospital in oxford. if you have an experience, be it positive or negative in terms of the mesh implants, then do let me know. send me an e—mail. tomorrow we will be live in north kensington talking to survivors of g re nfell tower kensington talking to survivors of grenfell tower and hearing their frustrations five weeks after the fire which killed at least 80 people. the rate of inflation slowed unexpectedly last month, according to official figures. consumer price inflation — the rate at which the prices of goods and services bought by households rise or fall — stood at 2.6% injune, down from 2.9% in may. let's talk to ben bland. explain
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what inflation is. it is the consumer prices index. it is a shopping basket of goods and services that we spend our money on. they compare the difference in prices from this time last year to now and as you say what we have seen is prices are still going up, but not as quickly as they did in may. so, the figure that we have got is 2.6% forjune compared with the previousjune. 2.6% forjune compared with the previous june. in may 2.6% forjune compared with the previousjune. in may it was 2.9%. it was a four year high in may. so it eased off. prices are going up. the reason inflation has been going up the reason inflation has been going u p rece ntly the reason inflation has been going up recently in the last year is after the brexit vote, the pound weakened, that makes imports more expensive. so that pushes up prices that you and i pay in the shops. do we have the average earnings figures out today? the latest average earnings figures we have show that average earnings are increasing by 296. average earnings are increasing by 2%. when you couple that with that
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with the inflation figure, if prices are going up 2.6% and prices are outstripping our wages. so we are seeing a squeeze on the cost of living. the other thing that's significant about the inflation figures is because it affects the bank of england's decision on interest rates. they saw them close, move closer towards perhaps raising interest rates last month. because of this slowdown in inflation we are less likely to see a rate rise when they meet in august to give their next decision. that will be good news for borrowers because when interest rates go up our mortgages get more expensive. a treasury spokesman said, "we appreciate that some families are concerned about the cost of living which is why we have introduced the national living wage and why we have cut taxes for millions of people to help them keep more of what they earn. we are increasing our free childcare offer
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to help 400,000 working parents." what is interesting is when you break it down and you look at what caused inflation to slow down, the biggest factor has been a fall in the price of fuel. that dropped from may to june. the cost the price of fuel. that dropped from may tojune. the cost of games, toys and hobby spending, to a lesser extent, but it fell as well. cost of fuel, furniture and household goods went the other way. thank you very much, ben. johanna konta, whose incredible performance last week made her first british woman to reach a wimbledon semi—final since virginia wade in 1978, is going to be live with us in the next few minutes, answering your questions. so if you've got something you're dying to find out, get in touch. and will we finally see an end to sexist ads that portray stereotypical gender roles? that's an ad from years ago, but they are still being made now. the advertising regulator is looking at introducing new rules. with the news, here'sjoanna
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in the bbc newsroom. a bbc investigation has found that only a small fraction of the money donated as part of the grenfell tower fire appeal has so far reached survivors or relatives of the dead. around £20 million has been donated by individuals and businesses to charities and appeals. but less than £800,000 has been given out so far. an estimated 174 tonnes of items — such as clothing — were donated and are still being sorted by the british red cross. the rate of inflation has slowed down unexpectedly. prices rose by 2.6% in the year tojune — down from 2.9% in may. the office for national statistics said there had been falls in global oil prices and the cost of computer games. campaigners are calling for a suspension of vaginal mesh implants after this programme revealed hundreds of women are living with conening pain and complications. the
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mesh implants are used by surgeons to treat incontinence. mesh implants have been suspended many scotland. r kelly has denied allegations that he is holding several young women in an abusive cult. a buzzfeed record accuses him of brainwashing women who got klosser to him in an effort to boost their careers. he said he would works forfully to clear his name. the duke and duchess of cambridge — along with prince george and princess charlotte — are continuing their tour of poland. it's part of a five day tour to eastern europe. last night, prince william praised poland's courage, fortitude and bravery in a speech in warsaw. on the agenda today is a trip to the former stutthof concentration camp in gdansk. that's a summary of the latest news, join me for bbc newsroom live at 11 o'clock. here's some sport now with hugh ferris. england's women have just begun their cricket world cup semi
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final against south africa, who won the toss and are batting first in bristol. these two met during the group stage, a match which england won, one of six in a row that have got them to the last four. keep up to date with that on bbc radio 5 live sports extra. romelu lukaku has scored his first goal in manchester united shirt since joining from everton for £75 million. united beat real salt lake 2—1 in a friendly in utah. and johanna konta has told the bbc she's working towards becoming the world number one. she's up to fourth in the rankings after reaching the semi—finals at wimbledon where she lost to venus williams. victoria will be talking tojohanna injust a moment in the programme, but that's it from me for now. closer to him in an effort to boost their careers. he said he would forcefully to clear his name. thank you for your comments about mesh implant. jackie say i am concerned. i have been put on the
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waiting list and imam considering if i should have the operation. lesley says i had problems straightaway. infections one after another and discomfort after going to three different hospitals over seven yea rs, of different hospitals over seven years, of horrendous pain, it was found the mesh had roareded through my urethra. i underwent surgery. within two months i had a further erosion leaving me incontinent. i have been told it would be too dangerous to remove all the mesh. i have suffered 17—and—a—half years of chronic pain and infection, it has destroyed my 36 year marriage, the mesh is totally debilitated. wes says too much trust is placed on the expert. marlene on text say i am due a hernia op using mesh, are the risk the same. bony says i was on your programme, i waned to come to london to go parliament, today but
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since april my pain has increased andi since april my pain has increased and i am now on double the medication. thank you very much for those. we will feed those through to the sling the mesh campaign who are meeting at westminster today. the campaign finally reaches westminster. eight years ago she was ranked 469th in the world — today she's the fourth best female tennis player in the world. johanna konta made history at wimbledon by becoming the first british woman to reach the semi—final in almost 40 years. # i am free to be the greatest, i'm alive # i am free to be the greatest here tonight # the greatest...# there's dormitories behind there and i used to sleep... i literally used to live here! you used to live here?! i actually physically lived pretty much on the tennis court. # i've got stamina... # it has been a dream of mine since i was a young girl and that
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continues to be my dream and i think will always be, as long as i am playing this sport. i need to keep focusing on my work because i know that will bring the best out of me. # don't give up, i won't give up # don't give up # no, no, no # don't give up # i won't give up # don't give up # no, no, no # i'm free to be the greatest, i'm alive # i'm free to be the greatest here tonight # the greatest, the greatest, the greatest # the greatest, the greatest alive # i got stamina... # she is not quite ready so we will
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talk to her has soon as she is ready. we will talk about schools in the meantime. next this morning — some schools in england have told this programme they're heading towards the "last resort" of shortening the school week. that comes despite a potential funding boost from the department for education who promised an extra £1.3 billion per year in school budgets, alongside a shake—up of how funding is allocated. but the cash will be taken from elsewhere in the education budget, such as building free schools — rather than extra money from elsewhere in the government. education secretary justine greening says she recognised there had been public concern over school funding during the general election. but labour describe it as "not a penny of new money — their education spokesperson angela rayner is here. as isjo wincott, headteacher at sandon secondary school in essex which is reducing teaching hours next year. malcolm trobe, who is the deputy general secretary of one of the big teaching unions —
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the association of school and college leaders. we did ask someone from the department for education to join us and we asked for a number of conservative mps and they all said no. ina conservative mps and they all said no. in a moment we will speak to nick cap stick, the ceo of the white horse federation trust he is sportty of the government, broadly. i want to start with jo. if of the government, broadly. i want to start withjo. if i may. good morning to you. yes, i can't hear you, hopefully we will turn your microphone up. i know you are talking to us. you are developing an hour a week's worth of teaching, in fact you can't hear me, soiam teaching, in fact you can't hear me, so i am going to come back to you. a p pa re ntly so i am going to come back to you. apparently he can hear, joe, can you hear me ok? i can. thank you very much. i apologise for our technical problem, you are still intending
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dropping an houra problem, you are still intending dropping an hour a week's worth of teaching pupils next term, why? basically we have had a cut in budget, of about £250,000 since 2011. we have tried to tighten our belt in every way. problem with sound .iam problem with sound . i am going to pause, something is not right. i do apologise, we do need to hear from you. i am not right. i do apologise, we do need to hearfrom you. i am going to bring angela rainer shadow education secretary. there will be an increase per pupil according to justine greening to 44800 pounds. you must welcome that. —— 4800. greening to 44800 pounds. you must welcome that. -- 4800. think what joe was trying to say the 2.8 billion that has been taken from the school budget, so this 1.3 billion is for next year, so even from this september, those schools are still facing the cuts that from in training, that is why the head
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teachers and pupils and parents have been talking about this over the last couple of months because they are feeling the pinch. it is u nfortu nate are feeling the pinch. it is unfortunate that schools are having to make these riley significant choice, which has never happened before since we have had a state education system fwlsm you welcome the money but it is too late because it is not coming on stream to 2018. any money going into schools is really important but this is money that has been taken from somewhere else, so there is a question mark about what is going to happen in the other department, they are saying they can find efficiency, but we are not seeing... 600 million is a significant amount. where is that coming, from the free school, we know that class sizes are increasing and we don't have the school places, so the whole system is in chaos, we have been warning the government for some time about this, the teachers have been warning the government about it, and they have not acted and this1.3 about it, and they have not acted and this 1.3 million is nowhere near enough. that is what justine greening was doing yesterday. we have to see in september what
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difference it makes in individual school, because i am sure whatjoe would say, we have had flat cash since 2010 so there has been no cash increases into school, there was reions in grant, no money to meet the pay rises, and public sector pay rises have come through, we have had big increases in employers contribution to pensions and national insurance, when you look at that there have been cost pressures, a lot depend on where a school starts in terms of its base budget, so those schools in lower funded authority are in real significant difficulties. we have some guarantees here, a small increase, zero. 5% increase for every school. a3% zero. 5% increase for every school. a 3% increase is being indicated for the most underfunded school, so in september, let's see how much that means for individual schools. ok. we are nothing if not persistent so we will try again to talk ojoe, because he has made time for us. can
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you hear me? i can hear you, yes. thank goodness for that. tell us why you making the decision to drop an hour woort of teaching from your pupils neck term? certainly, yes, we have had about 450,000 cut since 2011, that is a cut, on top of which we have increased cost, in terms of national insurance, contributions the school has to make, and we have tightened our belt as much as we can, to the point where we had to start looking at the curriculum and say we peach —— teach an hour more than most schools and the time has come to reduce that, which saves us about 100,000 which meanses we can balance the budget this career. so when this extra money, it is not new monday, it has come from elsewhere, recycled from elsewhere, when that comes on stream you can go back up, you can put the extra hour back in, do you think? well, the key point is
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it is 2018, so what we have done this year will allow us to balance this year will allow us to balance this year's budget so we will have to stay we are and maintain our 25 hours teaching instead of the 26. thank you very much. thank you to angela and martinful thank you for coming on the programme. and johanna konta is here now. if you've got a question for her, do get in touch in the usual ways. it is good to talk tow to you. tell us ho you look back on your wimbledon fortnight. i think overall it was terribly exciting. i got to bea it was terribly exciting. i got to be a part of something that was on a national scale and to feel the support of my home crowd, on centre court, on court one, it was pretty special. tell us what it is like. describe what it is like to feel the support of your home crowd. well, it
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very much like, it is goose bumps. you get an adrenaline rush, goose bumps when you hear so many people cheering for you, with you, more than anything, it is quite overwhelming. you were responsible for some of the best tennis in the women's game, at wimbledon, some amazing three setters, particularly against vici glrks the first week. how do you keep calm when it is eight all in the third set? i think it is keeping a good perspective, acknowledging the fact you and your opponent are playing at a high level, and involves in this epic battle, which i think was so enjoyable, so for the crowd that was there and it was something that as tennis players you wa nt to something that as tennis players you want to be involved in those sort of battles, and in that moment at eight
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all it is enjoying the fact you are there and you get to experience that. i wonder, let us go back few year, when you were ranked in the mid 100, did you think, yes, i can get to the top? i've always believed in my own ability. i have believed that i can be at the top of the game. i have wa nted be at the top of the game. i have wanted to be at the top of the game, so every, every experience that i have had, every step of the way, i have had, every step of the way, i have just tried to use that to my advantage and to use that in a way thatis advantage and to use that in a way that is only making me better, and i am really enjoying many ijourney, i feel that i am trying to maximise every day and i think i am doing that 95% of the time. i am going to bring ina that 95% of the time. i am going to bring in a superfan. that 95% of the time. i am going to bring in a super fan. ok. jewels. hello, how are you? —— jules. i i can't hear him either. i will try again. ican hear try again. i can hear you victoria. thank you.
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talk tojo. i can hear you victoria. thank you. talk to jo. congreats on getting to numberfour in the talk to jo. congreats on getting to number four in the world. my question is people say the most important bit of a tennis player is what going on between their ear, what going on between their ear, what has changed mentally for you in your approach in the game to rise to inside the top five in the world? well, to be honest, actually, not terrible much has changed. it was more a fact of simplify things for me, iam more a fact of simplify things for me, i am more focussed on process, and what makes me happy outside of tennis as well, and really try to normalise everything. i think when you come through the rankings and through everyone's journey in trying to be the best in their discipline, you can get caught in your own expectations in your own pressures of wanting to not disappoint people around you and i think i found a place where i started playing for me
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andi place where i started playing for me and i started wanting to improve for me, ithink and i started wanting to improve for me, i think that is what happened me relax a bit more, and just enjoy the process of getting better. so the baking has helped then. sorry. so the baking has helped then? very much so. eating the muffins too. muffins are always good! thank you very much, jules. let me introduce you to sarah moss. how are you? well. talk to johanna konta. i am interested to know what sacrifices you have had to made in order to compete at the level you do? well, it's more than just my own sacrifices obviously. growing up i made the sacrifices, the left school to do home schooling so i didn't develop that friends circle and that social circle, but it is a sacrifice on behalf of my family. my family
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moved continents and started again with me here. it's much more than just my own sacrifice, it is a family project. but, yeah, i mean, i think each sacrifice that we made it almost made us stronger as a family unit. thank you, sarah. thank you very much. i want to ask you about the scheduling. was the scheduling fair. would you have liked to have played on centre court more? the scheduling was very on centre court more? the scheduling was very kind to me and i got to play all my matches on court one or centre court. i really don't have much to complain about, but i have a lwa ys much to complain about, but i have always said that i am always happy with whatever court i'm on, the net is the same height. the lines are painted in the same place and you are still part of the championships at wimbledon. so, to me, it was very kind. igot at wimbledon. so, to me, it was very kind. i got to play some incredible battles on those big stages. why do
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you think more men's games were on the show courts than women's? is that a fact? i don't know the numbers. it is 2-1. that's the ratio? i don't know. ithink numbers. it is 2-1. that's the ratio? i don't know. i think that's something that needs to be looked at or needs to be assessed in terms of what actually brought in more viewing and more things like that, but honestly i don't know. andy murray was one of the players saying that it should be a bit more equal. well, definitely. we are all striving for more equality in every way. 7.4 million people watched your quarterfinal match on bbc one. those are astonishing figures. they are astonishing figures, but astonishing figures for women's sport?” astonishing figures, but astonishing figures for women's sport? i think it's brilliant. i think it does break down that barrier between
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separating men and women's sport and making it sport. it's a sporting event. it is regardless of gender andi event. it is regardless of gender and i think that is only a positive direction for us. what did you think ofjohn mcenroe's comments if serena williams was playing men's tennis she would be ranked around 700?” don't think it's particularly releva nt don't think it's particularly relevant because she is not playing on the men's side and like she said, she is busy growing a baby right now! yeah. any truth in it at all? i think it's unrealistic because it's incomparable. she doesn't play on the men's circuit. she doesn't play among male players. so it's something that you can't measure that because there is no way of
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knowing. sure. if you don't mind, i think you have managed to keep quite a low profile really despite your star being in the trajectory. we wa nted star being in the trajectory. we wanted to ask quick fire questions. 0k. wanted to ask quick fire questions. ok. when was the last time you cried? last time i cried? ithink maybe a week ago. go on. why? yes. why, i think, maybe a week ago. go on. why? yes. why, ithink, actually, i'm not too sure. oh, it was a week... wait. i can't remember now. yeah, it was a week ago and i think it was because i was week ago and i think it was because iwasa week ago and i think it was because i was a bit stressed and i forgot something. i left something out of the shopping! like what? i think! it was because i was making muffins andi it was because i was making muffins and i think i forgot chocolate chips and i think i forgot chocolate chips andi and i think i forgot chocolate chips and iforgot and i think i forgot chocolate chips and i forgot a specific kind of chocolate chip so i was upset with
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myself. that's just the stress of what else was going on in your life! what about the last time you got really drunk? i think! can what about the last time you got really drunk? i think i can count on country hand how many times i have been drunk. i think... i don't actually remember. so it was a while ago. it was so long ago you can't remember. no. what's your guilty secret? guilty secret? well, the thick is most people know the guilty secrets because it's generally all to do with food! it is my love for food, pizza, gelato and muffin baking and everyone, that's pretty much as guilty as i get. if you could never play tennis again what would you do instead?” could never play tennis again what would you do instead? i would love to be involved with live music whether it is concert promoting or something along that way, i love live music so i would love to be involved. how about being a roady
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for u2? yes. i am an officialfan for u2? yes. i am an officialfan for u2? yes. i am an officialfan foru2 for u2? yes. i am an officialfan for u 2 anyway! how do you relax? don't talk about cooking? eating! laughter i love to spend time with my family. my i love to spend time with my family. my close ones. i actually, i enjoy sin masmt i love going to watch films, again live music, i almost actually forced myself to be a bit lazy and to just try and just be on the couch all day or really try to almost do the opposite of what i generally do and that's running around a lot. i do try to make sure i almost become a little immobile for a day. if you could have one wirve, what would it be? one wish? yes. i think to leave the sport in a better place than i found it. meaning what? meaning to i think bring more awareness to tennis, to promote it well, while i'm playing
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to get more kids playing, to break down barriers of girls and boys playing to make sure that i feel i am just as much promoting it for the young boys as i am for young girls. just overall to really yeah, leave tennis in a good place in this country. yes. do you believe in god? i believe in more, i believe, yeah, more thanjust i believe in more, i believe, yeah, more than just us. 0k. more than just us. ok. you were born in australia. you have british citizenship. what's the most british thing about you? what's the most australian thing about you? the most british thing about me? i don't know actually. i think you need to ask other people because i don't know about me and most australian? i'm not really australian? i'm not really australian with my habits. i left when i was quite young. maybe there is still a little bit of a twang in
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my accent. my accent is a bit of a hybrid. don't think i have an answer. sorry. that's all right. is it true you are so competitive you made your sister cry playing monopoly? that's true. it's true! thank you very much. congratulations again. thank you very much. thank you. number four in the world, johanna konta and thank you for your questions as well. next this morning, the advertising standards authority is to recommend that adverts featuring gender stereotypical roles like these should be banned. i hardly ever buy fairy liquid. i hardly ever buy fairy liquid. that's because fairy's cleaning power lasts a long, long time. generations have trusted it and today, it lasts up to 50% longer than the next bestselling brand. trust fairy and you will hardly ever have to buy it either. # she's a lady
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# oh, oh, oh, she's a lady # talking about. ..# at least someone knows how to treat you right. craig jones is from the advertising standards authority who are calling for tougher regulations to address what they say are harmful stereotypes used by advertisers. peter lloyd, author of stand by your manhood who writes about issues affecting men. what are you worried about in sn we have talked to parents and children and young people and what they have told us along with their representative groups as well is that there are some genderster you types in advertising which can be harmful. like what? the example we have given include for example a family thrashing the house and then the mother having sole responsibility forfor the mother having sole responsibility for for cleaning up. that maybe true in somt households?
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well what, we found, what we are not saying is we want to ban all images of women cleaning or men doing diy. it is just the harmful ones. of women cleaning or men doing diy. it isjust the harmful ones. what harm do you think is happening because of genderster you typical ads? the harm that we found is that those very normalised predetermined roles can have a drip, drip effect on young people and children as they are growing up and it really affects them. harm them, how? it affects how they see themselves and how the world sees them. it limits their aspirations whether it is to do with their studies or careers. you have got evidence to show there is a link between gender typical ads and a teenager's aspirations being limited? we talked to young people and adults who have given us this evidence. is it anecdotal. is it
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people saying my aspirations might be limited by that ad or is it reality? asking young people what impression they are left with, for a lot of people, the harmful ones, what they are telling us is that it can give them the sense of narrowed aspirations and narrowed opportunities as they get older. peter, what do you think?” opportunities as they get older. peter, what do you think? i think it is very worrying. i don't think that censorship is the way forward in advertising. but to sensor is very concerning to me. the asa should be concerned with ensuring that advertisers don't mislead their clients and customers. they shouldn't be making arbitrary judgments on whether they don't like a feminist or non feminist advert. that's ridiculous. this an organisation that's imposing a left—wing political free view on the
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market. the asa have a dim view of consumers market. the asa have a dim view of consumers who can make up their own minds about products. . the asa has been dealing with harmful advertising for over 50 years. we commissioned this evidence. i am sure you would agree in that case there is real harm there, but what we found in terms of roles and character sttion we need to do more when it comes to the harmful roles and chrkistics, not all of them though. five seconds you're saying it isa though. five seconds you're saying it is a harmful stereotypical thing, it is a harmful stereotypical thing, it is a harmful stereotypical thing, it isa it is a harmful stereotypical thing, it is a reality that your organisation don't appreciate. tomorrow we'll be live in north kensington talking to survivors of grenfell tower and hearing their frustrations five weeks after the devastating fire which killed at least 80 people. good morning. sunny and very warm weather sums tip for most of us
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today across the united kingdom, but it is not as straightforward as that for most of us, because for some of us because we have some showers developing across the channel and those will move their way northwards. moving into the south—west of england in the next couple of hours and moving northwards for the rest of the afternoon. but for most of us, it is warm and sunny. temperatures up to 29 celsius and perhaps 30 celsius across the south. during this evening and tonight the heavy and thundery showers move their way northward. they will be hit and miss. if you catch one, you will know about it. there will be hail and gusty winds and lightening as well. into wednesday, those showers continue to move northward. rain spread in from the west, but still warm, hot in the south east, temperatures 27 to 30 celsius. just that little bit fresher further north and west you go. some heavy rain in the forecast as we go into friday. i will keep you updated. see you later. this is bbc news —
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and these are the top stories developing at 11am: inflation slows unexpectedly to 2.6% injune — helped by lower fuel prices. the cabinet gathers in downing street as theresa may tells tory mps and ministers to end the "backbiting" and "carping." also — could austerity be having an impact on how long we're living?
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rising rates of life expectancy are grinding to a halt after more than 100 years of continuous progress. and women doing all the cleaning up, men failing at simple
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