hello, it's wednesday, it's 9am, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. our top story today — tensions escalate as donald trump threatens north korea with "fire and fury like the world has never seen" and the state retaliates by threatening to strike a us military base. he has been very threatening, beyond the normal state, and, as i say, they will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before. translation: pli plans would be met with an all—out war, wiping out all the strongholds of enemies including the strongholds of enemies including the us mainland. will either side back down? we'll look at what could happen next. people are having surgery to stop themselves needing the loo while out

and about because of a lack of to i lets. i'm so much healthier because, in general day—to—day, at university, i used to dehydrate myself. i wouldn't drink all day, because i'd need the toilet. paralympian anne wafula strike who was forced to wet herself on a train when she couldn't find a loo has an exclusive report on the issue for us. the fire service has drafted in 60 councillors to help treat traumatised firefighters who are struggling to cope with the after effects of battling the grenfell tower fire. we'll bring you the story after 10am. hello and welcome to the programme. we're live until iiam. today is exactly ten years since the credit crunch hit the uk, leading to the global financial crisis and forcing many of you out of yourjobs, your home, your business. this morning, we'll look at how

people have recovered. do get in touch and share your experiences this morning. use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today. a group of french soldiers on patrol ina a group of french soldiers on patrol in a western suburb of paris have been hit by a car. six of them were injured. four seriously. a search is under way for the vehicle and the driver. the local mayor said he had no doubt that it had been a deliberate act. those are all the details we have at the moment. six soldiers injured after being hit by a vehicle. four of those soldiers are said to be seriously injured. the local mayor saying he had no doubt it was a deliberate act. as soon as we have more details, of course, we will bring them to you. tensions between the us

and north korea have reached new heights. president trump has warned kim jong un that if he goes on threatening america, his country will face "fire and fury, like the world has never seen". north korea says it is considering carrying out missile strikes on the american territory of guam, an island in the western pacific. suzanne kianpour reports from washington. north korea best not make any more threats to the united states. they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. unprecedented language from an american president. donald trump officially escalated the us stand—off with north korea north korea best not make any more threats to the united states. the trigger? a report by us intelligence officials saying pyongyang has produced a nuclear warhead small enough to fit inside its missiles — that much closer to the capability of striking the united states.

the president's angry response could throw a wrench into hopes of a diplomatic resolution. after a rare unanimous vote in the un security council to slap strong sanctions on the regime — a move meant to bring north korea to the table. north korean state news says kim jong—un is already weighing a plan to strike the us pacific territory of guam which appears to have been in place before mr trump's remarks. president trump often criticised his predecessor, barack 0bama, for not sticking to his red lines in foreign policy when he was here in the white house, but now, mr trump has drawn a red line with harsh new rhetoric. the question is — what happens if north korea crosses it? let's go to our correspondent yogita limaye, who's in seoul. what's the feeling there? well, the government here have said that it remains vigilant to the

threat from north korea. what they've also said is they are strengthening their defence capabilities, their joint defence capability with the us. the president has reportedly said that the defence system needs to be overhauled in light of this threat, but what south korea has been doing is following a two—track policy. while it is strengthing its defence policy, but it said it is open to talks with its northern neighbour. it is an offer that the president had made some time back. it was an offer reiterated by the country's foreign minister. north korea has not responded. if you go out on the streets of seoul and you talk to people. it is a mixed reaction. some of them aren't really that bothered by the news that's coming out because they say they've they'reed these threats so many times from pyongyang, that they are almost used to it and they think north korea could be bluffing. there are others

who are worried. a woman i met who said she was concerned and she wishes everyone would just live in peace. the fact is that, it is true of the this is what people here have heard for a long time. but in the current context, there is also now a leader in the us who is using extremely strong language and when that comes together, you know, this war of words is intensifying more than perhaps we have seen in recent yea rs. thank you very much. thank you very much. thank you. let's remind you of the breaking news from paris where a police operation is under way after a group of patrolling soldiers were hit by a vehicle. six soldiers are reported to be injured. two of them, we're told, seriously injured. the police are searching for the vehicle involved. the local mayor says he has no doubt it was a deliberate act. "it is anodious act of aggression. " act. "it is anodious act of aggression. the car in question who hit the soldiers was a bmw. so a

police operation is under way in paris after a group of soldiers was hit by a bflt mw as they were on patrol in a western suburb. six soldiers are reported to be injured. two of them seriously. and obviously an operation is under way to find the vehicle and the driver. joanna gosling is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. a british paralympian who was forced to wet herself on a train tells us the lack of accessible toilets for disabled people is unacceptable. she says despite a government promise that it would never happen again, she exposed examples of others who found themselves with no other option but to urnnate on themselves during a trainjourney. option but to urnnate on themselves during a train journey. you option but to urnnate on themselves during a trainjourney. you can watch her film coming during a trainjourney. you can watch herfilm coming up shortly. 500 new medical school places will be made available in england

next year as the gvernment attempts to boost the number of home—grown doctors in the nhs. the target is to increase the total number of training places by a quarter by 2020, to help ease staffing pressures. the british medical association says it won't address the immediate shortage of medics. children's services are being "pushed to breaking point" due to increased demand and cuts in council budgets according to the local government association. the lga says three—quarters of english councils overspent on child social care by a total of more than £0.5 billion. a government spokesman said councils would receive around £200 billion for local services up to 2020. this programme has learned that the fire service has drafted in 60 counsellors to help treat traumatised firefighters following the grenfell tower fire. the figure is more than ten times the number who normally work for the brigade. we'll be hearing from the london fire authority and a trauma specialist after 10am. those who commit cruelty against animals "are getting away with it" due to the "leniency" of uk courts, according to a report.

of the nearly ili,000 people found guilty of animal cruelty in england and wales from 2005 to 2015, more than 92% avoided prison, the centre for crime prevention says. it has called for the maximum sentence for offenders to be increased from six months to five years. the government says it is reviewing the matter. it's exactly 10 yea rs today since the start of the financial crisis. it started with a warning from french bank bnp paribas about us housing loans and ended with a global credit crunch as governments around the world propped up banks that otherwise would have collapsed. here banks including royal bank of scotland and lloyds tsb had to be rescued with billions in taxpayers' money. the aa says seven out of ten drivers avoid parking spaces that require payment by phone. it says motorists, especially the older ones, prefer to pay with cash, even if the meters don't give change.

the aa says that many are put off by administration fees and voice controlled payment systems. kenya's incumbent president uhuru kenyatta has taken a strong lead as votes are counted after tuesday's election. with more than three—quarters of results in, mr kenyatta has a lead of close to 10% over his rival. however, the opposition coalition has rejected the figures, and has accused officials of publishing fake results. tributes have been paid to the american country music star, glen campbell, who has died after what his family called a "long and courageous battle" with alzheimer's. he was 81. # likea # like a rhinestone cowboy. # he was famous for hits including rhinestone cowboy and wichita lineman. dolly parton said he had "one of the greatest voices of all time".

let's go to paris and talk tojohnny diamond. a police operation sunday way. what can you tell us? this is asa way. what can you tell us? this is as a result of attack that took place just as a result of attack that took placejust under as a result of attack that took place just under an hour, as a result of attack that took placejust under an hour, maybe as a result of attack that took place just under an hour, maybe an hour ago now. a man or a place just under an hour, maybe an hour ago now. a man 01’ a woman, we hour ago now. a man or a woman, we don't know, a driver drove into a group of soldiers in the north western suburb, it is 15 minutes drive in the bbc bureau in the centre of paris. the car injured six of the soldiers. two of them seriously. now, those soldiers were pa rt seriously. now, those soldiers were part of operation sentinal that's in place since 2012, since the attacks on the magazine, charlie hebdo. the mayor said it was an intentional attack. as i say, two soldiers

seriously injured and four lightly injured. perhaps of greatest concern after those injuries is the fact that the driver and the vehicle are still at large. there is a large and very serious police operation going on throughout paris to try and track down the driver and the vehicle whilst investigations are carried out the site itself. you mentioned the charlie hebdo attacks, but france has seen numerous attacks like this in recent years, hasn't it? in recent years, in recent months. in fact, there has been, i think, you might call it an uncharacteristic lull in the three months since the presidential election here. an election campaign that was marked by a number of, what you might describe as relatively low level attacks. there have been shootings at police officers in the champs elysees a couple of minutes walk from where i am here. there was

an attack on a group of soldiers who we re an attack on a group of soldiers who were on guard outside the louvre, the great museum, one of the most visited museums in the world. four parisians, for the inhabitants of cities around france, the state of alert is a reality because there have been attacks large and small really coming in the last few years inafairly really coming in the last few years in a fairly unseizing flow, whether it has been of the terrifying scale of that of nice were more than 80 people were killed when a man drove a truck through celebratory crowds or whether it is isolated attacks, a french priest having his throat cut in his own church, in a fairly isolated country church, this has become a normal state for france and this is why this operation is in place, both to reassure the population with high—profile patrols, but also to dissuade and deter those who might carry out the

attacks. the risk obviously is that the operation itself becomes a focus for attacks and that appears to have been the case this morning here in the city of paris, in the suburb of the city of paris, in the suburb of the city of paris, in the suburb of the city of paris, 15 minutes drive from the centre. thank you. i know you will be back with us as soon as you will be back with us as soon as you have more information. we will keep you updated throughout the morning. let's get some sport with leah. and yesterday's world athletics championships news was dominated by a man who ultimately wasn't competing. yes, isaac makwala. he wanted to run but it did not happen. he was turned away from the london stadium because ofa away from the london stadium because of a suspected norovirus. the iaaf

decided that they didn't want to risk affecting other athletes. wayde van niekerk took a gold medal co mforta bly van niekerk took a gold medal comfortably in the end. afterwards he told everyone that he was actually gutted not to take on his closest challenger. and there he is crossing the line. it is quite disappointing. i would love him to have his fair opportunity. he was in great form. i believe he would have done very well this championships and, like i said earlier, i've got so much sympathy for him. i really wish i could even give him my medal. meanwhile in the 800 metres a quick mention about britan's kyle langford — he missed out on the podium finishing fourth, but he's not letting the disappointment get to him too much saying he's now focusing on the tokyo olympics in three years. so we're halfway through the tournament and that target of great britain getting between 6 to 8 medals isn't really looking

like a reality now. england women start the defence of the rugby world cup. yes with england, wales and ireland all playing their first games later but as the action gets under way, there's a row over whether the england team are getting paid fairly, from the people who run the sport. the rugby football union are changing the way they pay the england players. so in the future, they'll only pay the women who play the version of the game with seven players, rather than the traditional, 15—a—side version. joined now by former england rugby captain sue day. thanks forjoining us. it is a brilliant time for win in's sport. we have had world cup cricket, football, and this tournament will be watched by people all over the world, which is exciting. really exciting. we have seen coverage for

winner's sport increased so much with over 100 million people watching the women's cricket world cup and ourteam watching the women's cricket world cup and our team go to victory is so exciting to see how many people across the globe get the chance to watch this rugby world cup.|j across the globe get the chance to watch this rugby world cup. i want to ta ke watch this rugby world cup. i want to take about the tasty line—up. england, defending champions, will mumble one, taking on spain. we have ireland versus australia and wales taking of new zealand. do you think england have it in them to defend the world cup? very much so. they just about going to this as favourites having beaten new zealand in new zealand in the summer, having lost to new zealand before that, when they were over here. england go into it as favourites. they are not talking about defending the trophy but winning this tournament. a strong pack and they have a great chance. you talk about wales playing new zealand, that is a tough game

first up in a world cup. new zealand have won the last four world cups prior to the last one. the row i was talking about is after the tournament, the 15s will not exist and they will only pay the sevens side. how do you feel? the players a lwa ys side. how do you feel? the players always knew these were short—term 15s contracts. the rfu have said loudly it is a temporary thing and they aren't looking at having full—time contracts for the players, the 15s included in the long—term. in the short—term they are focusing on investing a lot of money in a clu b on investing a lot of money in a club game in england. the infrastructure would therefore be there in the future when players hopefully go professional long—term, they will be able to go back to clu bs to they will be able to go back to clubs to play full—time and trained with the best coaches. disappointing now there are not long—term

full—time contracts but i'm hopeful it will happen soon. thank you. that is all, we will be back at 9:30am. next this morning, in an exclusive report a british paralympian who was forced to wet herself on a train journey last year because the disabled loo was out of order tells us the lack of accessible toilets for disabled people is unacceptable. anne wafula—strike says despite a government promise that it would never happen again, in a film for us, she's exposed examples of others who've found themselves with no other option, but to urinate on themselves on a trainjourney. in her investigation for this programme, the wheelchair racer speaks to people who've resorted to drastic measures including having surgery to stop them needing the loo when they're out. this is anne wafula—strike's film. my name is anne wafula—strike. i am a paralympian.

i have won medals in wheelchair racing, i have an mbe. but last year i was forced to wet myself on a train. you may have heard my story. i was on a cross—country route from the midlands to stansted. the accessible toilet was out of order. it was one of the most humiliating experiences of my life. at the time, the government's rail minister told me he was committed to ensuring no passenger would go through this again but eight months on, we can reveal it's still happening. i booked thejourney to birmingham six weeks in advance and they knew i was coming. but i found the toilet was out of order when i got on the train. and i ended up wetting myself. and it's notjust on trains. it seems a lack of accessible toilets is a problem everywhere. many are out of order, not fit for purpose or just filthy. parents are changing their children

on floors covered in urine. it is completely degrading. there are people out there that are changing people on toilet floors all day, every day, in towns and cities around the uk. the issue is so extreme that some people are opting for unnecessary surgery because there are no toilets for them to use. i had a catheterfitted which means i don't have to get out of my chair to go to the toilet. i can go to the toilet wherever i want now. these are the realities faced by people living with disabilities in the uk today. hello, annie! hello, how are you? fine, thank you. i've come along to my local athletics track in harlow to chat to people about what they've

come up against. have any of you had any experiences? lots of experiences. you go out on a night out, bearing in mind half the clubs you kind of can't really get into because of the steps, and you find a club that you can get into... and then the toilet is used as storage. you can't use the toilets. because they've got storage in there. and then when you ask to go in there, they say, i'm sorry. how does that make you feel? it frustrates me. what seems worse, they're not even maintained properly. i was camping a few years back, i phoned up and said, have you got a disabled toilet? they said yes. got there, and i said, where is the disabled toilet? they said, the ceiling has caved in. ijust got off my chair, crawled along the floor, climbed up onto the able—bodied toilet. you literally got on the floor from your wheelchair and you crawled to the toilet? yeah, i have done that, yeah. and then you don't want to complain because you just feel like you're having to complain all the time. having to complain all the time.

what's the point? it's like, they don't really understand. the only able—bodied people who do understand are the parents, and people who have got friends or children with disabilities. under the equality act, businesses have a legal duty to make reasonable adjustments so that their loos are accessible to people with disabilities. but recent research suggests as many as 40% of restaurants and a third of department stores still don't have appropriate toilets. some people are taking the problem into their own hands. at 20, manny decided to undergo surgery she had no need for because she couldn't find anywhere to go to the toilet while out. so, where are we going tonight? just down to my favourite cocktail bar. oh, you're taking me to a cocktail bar, wow! manny has spinal muscular atrophy.

she's used a power chair since he was three and needs a hoist to get onto the toilet. manny, you like going out with your friends, and i know when you're out you want to have a drink or you want to have something to eat. and you'll need to use a toilet. how is that like? so, when i first went to university, i would avoid drinking as much as i could, because if i needed the toilet, i'd have to go home and leave the night out early, because i'd need a hoist and a plinth to be able to get changed on. and they just weren't there. and how has that been for you? and how has that changed for you? two years next month, i had a catheterfitted which means i don't have to get out of my chair to go to the toilet. so i can go to the toilet wherever i want now, so it's incredible. it's completely changed my life, i'm so much healthier because i can,

not on nights out but in general day to day, i used to, at university i used to dehydrate myself, i wouldn't drink all day because i need the toilet. what does the surgery involve? they create a hole just beneath your belly button to put the tube through into your bladder. and basically, it's like putting a needle in and a slightly bigger needle in and a slightly bigger needle until the hole is big enough to get the catheter through. it's quite grim. i just can't believe that you actually opted to have an operation without any medical need. yeah, no medical need, i wasn't incontinent. it was more of a... my urologist called it socially incontinent, where basically, it meant i was incontinent when i was out because i couldn't go to the toilet. because there wasn't the facilities there. and although it's incredible and it's life changing and i wouldn't change it

for the world, i kind of wish i didn't have to in the first place. if the facilities were there. i was shocked to hear what lengths manny was forced to go through. she maintains it was worth the risks. what has this operation meant for you? it's given me a lot more freedom, a lot more independence. i don't have to worry about having inaccessible toilets, i can just go out and have fun like anyone else. i've got so many friends that have had them done. it's quite ridiculous how many people have had to go through it just to be able to go to the toilet when they're out. personally, i sort of feel like it's not fair that young people with certain disabilities are actually going to the length of having operations that they do not need. i mean, there's always things in life that you kind of can't do because there's no facilities there,

isjust ridiculous. there are actually some public toilets in full with severe toilets people with severe disabilities can use. they are called changing places toilets. they have more spaces and specialist equipment but there are only around a thousand across the uk, and it's estimated a quarter of a million people need to use them. there aren't any in some parts of the country. it's been really good, we've got nine changing places in north lincolnshire now. lorna needs one for her daughter emily mae, who has severe disabilities. lorna, tell me, how does a changing places toilet look like, how does it work, and why is it important? why is it important? well, this is an adult changing bench and it actually pulls down from the wall. and that means that you can lay

somebody on there to have their incontinence products changed. that makes a big difference to us. i've been changing my daughter on a baby change facility for a long, long time, but she's obviously seven years old now. and we need adult changing places toilets like these. because without these, i'd either have to change her on the toilet floor or find somewhere else to change her. but the other important bit of kit is that you've got this hoist. so you can hoist somebody out of their wheelchair onto the adult changing bench or you can hoist a person onto the toilet. so are you telling me that without certain facilities, without such facilities, you actually have to change your daughter on this floor? there are people out there that are changing people on toilet floors all day every day in towns and cities across the uk. there's people with very low immunities who are at risk of catching infections from toilet floors. there are people with feeding tubes, tracheostomies, all sorts of things

that you do not want to get dirty, and which could actually kill somebody if they got an infection into it. what changes would you like to see? i want these in all large public buildings, and i'm not talking little teashops, i'm talking cinemas, theatres, hospitals, town halls and in larger public buildings. particularly when they're being built brand—new. and also equipment like this, to have a facility like this, it would cost approximately £15,000. you see why some businesses would say why it's expensive to afford. i can understand small businesses, but we're talking about a lot of the time large businesses. there's a shopping centre near us that's just spent £180,000 refurbishing their toilets. they have not included a changing places toilet facility. there are people who cannot go out just because of a simple toilet, and that's what it comes down to. that is not an inclusive society. a recent government committee recommended this toilet should be made compulsory in large buildings

that serve the public, but no legislation has been put in place to make that happen. but will it happen went access to standard disabled toilet is still a problem? hello, chris. hiya, lovely to meet you. yeah, good to meet you. despite promises that no one else would have to suffer the humiliation i went through, in may, virgin trains had to apologise to chris stapleton. he was forced to wet himself because the accessible toilet on one of their trains was out of order. i booked a journey to birmingham six weeks in advance, and they knew i was coming. but i found the toilet was out of order when i got on the train. and i ended up wetting myself. because i couldn't use it. when i arrived to check in at the station, someone somewhere knew that that's when it was out of order. and someone should have given me

the choice to either take the risk, maybe travel anyway, or get a later train. but nobody told me the toilet was out of order and nobody gave me those choices and they didn't communicate with me at all, theyjust checked me in. i was disgusted by the attitude of the train company that could allow this to happen. i was angry about the train compa ny‘s negligence, knowing that there was a passenger, a wheelchair user, needing that toilet potentially on thatjourney. they should have got the toilet ready and had it in working order. you know, after i had my accident on the train, when i wet myself on the train, i had a meeting with the rail minister. and he assured me that no such incident would be repeated on the trains. so what do you think is going wrong? i think that assurance is completely worthless, because it happened again. the minister hasn't managed to fulfil that promise. do you think many people, wheelchair users will continue to wet themselves on the trains because the toilets

are not accessible? yes, i've spoken to many wheelchair users and it's happened many times before. and i'm sure it's going to happen many times again. i've never had a problem on the line we are travelling on at the moment, but there is clearly still an issue across the uk. so i've decided it's time to go back to the rail minister and ask him what is being done. he tells me they are working on an action plan to improve access ability across—the—boa rd in transport. paul, you know, when i had my terrible incident on the train, you promised that no other passenger would have to suffer the same humiliation. and it has gone on to happen again. so, what guarantee can you give us that there's going to be a stop to this? i'm hoping that when people see the accessibility action plan, they will see in it a range of ideas that will notjust make sure passengers get a better service

on the day, but that we can work more tactically and more strategically to make sure that more toilets are in service on trains in the first place. what are you going to do to make sure that the train companies actually serve the disabled traveller? there is strict legal rules in place as to what threshold of achievement train companies have to achieve. the office for road and rail enforces that and i've been very clearly to them, i want them to take it very seriously indeed. talking to the minister, this action plan could be a step in the right direction, but we don't know the details of what is in it yet. will it bring about real difference? there's around seven million working age people with disabilities in britain. that's a sixth of the population. people may not understand why such a fuss is being made about toilets. but when you have a disability,

knowing you're not defined by it is the sweetest feeling. so, this is notjust an issue about access to toilets. it's about access to all areas of life. it has happened quite a few of you. mum ona it has happened quite a few of you. mum on a mission said, "this happened to me and my son this week ata happened to me and my son this week at a big supermarket. disabled toilets are not fit for purpose. it was embarrassing for me, but degrading and uncomfortable for my son." if this has happened to you, then let me know because we'd like to talk to you via facetime or skype on the programme today. put your number on your message and we'll call you back. more on this to come through the programme this morning. let's return to the breaking news this morning. police in paris say a group of french soldiers on patrol

in a western suburb have been hit by a car. jonny dymond is in the french capital and gave us this update. well, this is as a result of an attack that took place just under an hour ago, maybe an hour now. a man or woman, we don't know, a driver, drove into a group of soldiers in the north western suburb of levallois—perre. it's about 15 minutes drive from the bbc bureau in the centre of paris. the car injured six of the soldiers, two of them seriously. those soldiers were part of what is called 0peration sentinell a heightened state of counter terror alert that's been in place now since 2012, since the attacks on the offices of the satirical magazine charlie hebdo. the mayor of the neighbourhood, levallois—perre said this is an intentional attack. as i say, two soldiers seriously injured and four lightly injured and perhaps of greatest concern after those injuries is the fact that the driver

and the vehicle are still at large. there is a large and very serious police operation going on throughout paris to try and track down the driver. we will keep you up—to—date throughout the morning. joanna has the rest of the news. tensions between the us and north korea have reached new heights. pyongyang says it's considering launching a ballistic missile strike close to the us military base on guam in the western pacific. president trump has declared that any further threats from the north koreans will be met with a devastating response. this programme has learned that the fire service has drafted in 60 counsellors to help treat traumatised firefighters following the grenfell tower fire. the figure is more than 10 times the number who normally work for the brigade. we'll be hearing from the london fire authority and a trauma specialist after 10am. 500 new doctors will be recruited.

it is to help ease staffing pressures . it is to help ease staffing pressures. the british medical association says it won't address the shortage of medics. kenya's incumbent president uhuru kenyatta has taken a strong lead as votes are counted after tuesday's election. with more than three—quarters of results in, mr kenyatta has a lead of close to 10% over his rival. however, the opposition coalition has rejected the figures, and has accused officials of publishing fake results. we will keep you up—to—date throughout the morning with the news from morning. paris throughout the morning. four former footballers — all survivors of childhood sexual abuse — are calling on the government to introduce new laws to protect children from the kind of abuse they suffered.

david white, derek bell, ian ackley and paul stewart, three of whom are here in the studio with us today, set—up save to improve safeguarding in football and to help other victims to come forward. with former footballers who were abused during their childhood — many on this programme — hundreds of people came forward to report abuse to the police. let's talk now with three of the four former professional footballers who set up save. former man city and england player david white, former newcastle player derek bell and ian ackley, who way back in the 19905 spoke up about alleged abuse. welcome all of you. david tell us more about save and how you came to set it up? we didn't intend to set it up. that's the most important thing. 0n the back of last november we we re thing. 0n the back of last november we were invited individually to the fa. from day one we found them very, very receptive. we found them very professional. the safeguarding

policies very thorough and they let us policies very thorough and they let us in and we have been working with them on a fairly regular basis since then and itjust developed. itjust seemed to become the right thing for us seemed to become the right thing for us to do, for us to, i suppose, we have been working quietly in the back ground for us to say this is what we have been doing. this is what we have been doing. this is what we're going to be doing in the future. so save safeguarding the victim and victim engagement and we wa nt to victim and victim engagement and we want to actually sort of celebrate the thoroughness of we believe safeguarding that is in football and probably in other sports for the fa to share those practises, but we've discovered in many ways that legislation is a barrier to that. let me bring in ian. where do you believe the legislation is allowing children potentially to slip through the net to fall through the net?|j think the net to fall through the net?” think that the dbs system that we've got in this country in my opinion isn't fit for purpose. that's the old criminal records check? yes,

absolutely, yeah. we've got a situation whereby a person can have a criminal record check and they are working or volunteering at an organisation, they can be barred from working with children or young adults because they are deemed to be adults because they are deemed to be a risk and the dbs system isn't allowed to tell the organisation that the person has been barred from working with them. and that's on the basis that it breaks data protection so basis that it breaks data protection so it breaks their human rights. basis that it breaks data protection so it breaks their human rightsm is ill logical, what is the point of the system if it doesn't trigger information to the people hiring the individual? absolutely. we talk about breaking people's human rights, then actually we do that on a daily basis when we incarcerate people and put them in prison because they are a risk to society. we say it's ok to take away their liberty and their freedom, their right to a private and family life because they need to be incarcerated to keep society safe. 0n because they need to be incarcerated to keep society safe. on one hand the government is saying, well, it's

0k to disregard the human rights act in orderto 0k to disregard the human rights act in order to protect society, but on the other hand, to protect children and vulnerable adults, it's not ok. 0k. and vulnerable adults, it's not ok. ok. so that's one area where you can see loopholes could be tightened up. yes? in terms of legislation. derek, what about mandatory reporting we formed a group as i say and there is 11 charters on that. one of them which is mandatory reporting which we feel very strongly about. that means professionals, volunteers, anybody in football, halving a legal duty to report either abuse or suspected abuse to the authorities? correct. there is the system in scotland that is in place, but not in england. which i think it is an educational point of view. people think that, you know, there should be mandatory reporting. parents, you know, can, you know, report mandatory reporting, but it's not legislation as yet and that's something that we have been

campaigning to government and campaigning to government and campaigning with government to try and change the law where it is up to and change the law where it is up to a parent, if they see something wrong on a football pitch or in any sport, they have got an obligation and a duty of care to report that incident and we're fighting hopefully to, you know, get mandatory reporting in place. a lot of people think it is in place at the minute, but it isn't actually legislation. 0k. ian, in the past, and when you first spoke to us back in november, you criticised the football association in england. you said it had association in england. you said it ha d rea cted association in england. you said it had reacted dismissively to worries about sexual abuse in the game when they emerged in the 1990s, your dad's call for better protection fell on deaf ears. have you changed your mind about the fa?” fell on deaf ears. have you changed your mind about the fa? i have to since they have invited us to speak with them, my opinion has definitely changed. what my experience of the safeguarding team at the fa and the work we've done so far has changed

my prospective. i really do believe that the fa are working very, very ha rd that the fa are working very, very hard in order to make football as robust and as safe as possibly can do. they will be the first to admit there are always changes that can be made and improvements will always be ongoing, the landscape changes and we need to keep up with the times, but actually, they're doing a tremendous amount of work to make sure that they do make football an incredibly safe and is an incredibly safe sport for our children. do you have faith in the fa's internal inquiry into historical sexual abuse in the game? absolutely. with all three of us and paul have been down, we've ta ken part three of us and paul have been down, we've taken part and just speaking with the guys down there, they are taking it very, very seriously and it's going to be about obviously what's happened in the past and recommendations moving forward and we hope to be auble to contribute to that. obviously we would always reserve jult until those inquiries come out, but without a doubt, there is nothing we have seen within the fa that would cast any doubt about

the thoroughness, the integrity, both in terms of the inquiry and of safeguarding moving forward and support for survivors as well. let me ask all of you, since, i mean, ian, asi me ask all of you, since, i mean, ian, as i said, you spoke out in the 90s and torve's disgrace, it really wasn't taken 90s and torve's disgrace, it really wasn't ta ken anywhere. 90s and torve's disgrace, it really wasn't taken anywhere. no. you spoke out again. you all did last year. what has been the impact for you? what has been the impact for you? what effect has that had on each of you individually, derek, let me start with you, since you spoke out? when i first come out, you know, i wasn't aware of how the much of an impact it would make. something like 700 live cases, but you know there was — 700 live cases, but you know there was—i 700 live cases, but you know there was — i didn't know david. i didn't know ian. we got together and we had a lot of synergy together. we used our experiences and it is all different parts of process to form save and hopefully to make some

changes that are really meaningful changes that are really meaningful changes and in fact if we as a group can do that, then it will be fantastic. what about you, david? what about the effect on you? i would agree with derek. the four of us getting together and being part of the process has been fantastic. the support from the fa has been incredible. we've got an unbelievable union in the pfa, the support from day one from gordon taylor and from darren wilson, who i think has been the first point of contact think has been the first point of co nta ct ha s think has been the first point of contact has been exemplary. everything comes up after many, many years, but we have been able to support each other in that process and that's what we want to do with saveis and that's what we want to do with save is to help make everybody else pa rt of save is to help make everybody else part of a process in terms of improving the safeguarding landscape and making sure that the survivors liaison and victim support is where

it needs to be. so, it is great comfort and we've enjoyed this work. that's the most important thing and that's why we intend to carry it on. and yourself, ian? the impact has been profound. the impact this time around was greater thanit impact this time around was greater than it was 20 years ago. i am no longer working where i was working. i walked away from that line of work. the impact of my partner, children has been huge. i would be lying if i said it was not. what has come out of it, it is something very positive. i am a great believer you can take something that has a negative impact and turn it around into something positive and grow from that and learn from that and leading ina from that and learn from that and leading in a positive direction, thatis leading in a positive direction, that is a good thing. the relationship we have formed the work we are doing and we have done quietly behind the scenes has been totally worthwhile. ultimately, i the impact it has had on me

personally is that it is worthwhile in the long run in that what will come out is something positive, not for was, but children and vulnerable adults in the future. —— not for us. if we can leave that as a legacy it isa if we can leave that as a legacy it is a job well done. i have not asked about unaffiliated clubs, small drops, not affiliated to the fa, so don't have to follow the safeguarding rules you have said are good from the fa point of view. they area good from the fa point of view. they are a great concern. we have a volu nta ry are a great concern. we have a voluntary system. unaffiliated clu bs, voluntary system. unaffiliated clubs, there is nothing to say they have to register with anybody. it could be a guide, lady who has a bag of balls, some cones, in the park, starting up. soccer schools, short—term camps effectively there to make money. not there are

essentially for the welfare of the children and many soccer schools in the summer are not affiliated to the fa. they do not half to answer questions about regulations, standards. if they want to, they not bother taking out checks because it is voluntary and bacon said they chose not to. and if it were latterly found out they were, they can say i did not know that. it is not a compulsory scheme. it is an area with a lot of concern. the fa hands are tied in that respect. a lot of work needs to be done in that area to make it secure. thank you very much. more on the breaking news from paris with six french soldiers injured after being hit by a car in a western suburb of paris. they want patrol in a suburb called

levallois—perret. apparently the vehicle was a bmw. we can speak to a journalist in paris he was at the scene. hello, i can say that i saw the streets blocked by police because maybe a terror attacked happened early this morning. we do not have a lot of information. i can say that, a man tried to rush into the military. six people were injured. the minister is coming but we cannot see anything now because the streets are blocked by the police. ok, thank you very much. we will keep you updated on that story through the morning. it is eight

weeks instagram a5. the fire brigade's rescue operation, to get hundreds of people out, was unprecedented. having to make life or death decisions about who to leave and who to say. it will take a long time to heal the mental scars. jesus christ, baked. —— mate. -- mate. jesus christ. we could see this was a bad word immediately. the sky was glowing. we sat looking at the building we had come out of. it is worse now, the fire is everywhere and it is fierce. it is hard to comprehend we we re fierce. it is hard to comprehend we were just fierce. it is hard to comprehend we werejust in there. fierce. it is hard to comprehend we were just in there. at no stage did they waver. they were going in time and again, battling through intense heat to get to the floors to find people missing, even though they knew their lives could potentially be in dangerand knew their lives could potentially be in danger and for that i am truly

grateful and the people who attended the fire, who took 999 calls, they are heroes in my eyes and they made me proud to be the london fire commissioner. heroes. i mean, they are heroes. they went in to try to save people, in that. ijust... they are heroes. now this programme has learned the fire service has drafted in 60

counsellors to help to treat traumatised firefighters. more than ten times the number who normally works of the brigade, after cutbacks that have seen this service almost halved. we can speak to a member of the london fire authority that has approved funding for those counsellor. and a former counsellor with the london fire brigade. tell us with the london fire brigade. tell us about the decision to bring in 60 counsellors and why it is needed. we felt the fantastic response, not from just the firefighters who went into the building, but the people who had to take lengthy phone calls that came through to the 999 operators and a decision was taken at the beginning to bring in counsellors, so nobody left the site that evening without having spoken to someone and they have had access to someone and they have had access toa20 to someone and they have had access to a 20 a7 helpline. there has been

an opportunity for counselling but that was augmented because it was such a horrible thing that happened at grenfell and they were so brave. we need to ensure... years past we have ignored mental health needs as a result of terrible traumas they have gone through. this number of 60 isa have gone through. this number of 60 is a lot of counsellors, and administration of how much need there is from firefighters. absolutely. we felt it important to ensure firefighters who went into the building and also people who took the lengthy phone calls have the opportunity to have counselling and to make sure they did not have lasting trauma from the events at grenfell. siobhan mcgee, what do you say to people who say that is a firefighter‘s job after all, smack firefighters are resilient people. they are well trained. in the main

they are resilient. but if you are exposed to lots of traumatic incidents, it may take a toll and it is important to support. you used to work for the counselling service. what kinds of things will the firefighters be going through?‘ what kinds of things will the firefighters be going through? a lot of the symptoms of trauma, traumatic stress, are quite normal to experience following a traumatic incident. they may be experiencing physically shaking in their body, elevated heart rate, they might have disturbed sleep, they might have nightmares, intrusive images and flashbacks. all of that is quite natural. it is the body trying to process the trauma and it is quite normal to have that anything up to a month following the critical

incident. one firefighter speaking after g re nfell incident. one firefighter speaking after grenfell said, it will say with me all my life. we were offered a session with a counsellor which i took up and it did help but nothing will get those images out of my mind. how do you help somebody like that? clearly, it was such a tragedy and traumatic incident for anybody involved for the families who lost their loved ones and people who lost their loved ones and people who lost their homes and also for first responders. what happens in trauma is that memories initially are in the short—term memory. the brain is like a big filing cabinet. with trauma, it is like files have been taken trauma, it is like files have been ta ken out of trauma, it is like files have been taken out of the filing cabinet and thrown all over the room. fragments of memory often come back, but, over time, what happens is once trauma

memory gets processed, it goes into the long—term memory and then the images become... they do not have such a distressing impact. they become less distressing. 0k, thank you very much. we will bring you the latest news and sport in a moment. before that, the weather and carol. good morning, we have seen an array of whether this morning. i will show you some of it using weather watchers‘ pictures. as we come further north, lovely blue skies. rey lee—lo a variety. and this one also in scotland, lovely blue skies. high—pressure showing its influence across much of the uk but equally we have a weather front sinking south, bringing rain and as temperatures rise ahead of it, showers will

develop. as we move north, it brightens up across northern england, wales, the north midlands and eventually the south—west. northern ireland and scotland hang on to the lion‘s share of the sunshine. currently, areas of cloud but they will break away and we will see more sunshine. highs up to 21, feeling quite pleasant. this is the sun coming out across northern england. you can see where we have the cloud. a pleasant afternoon in the cloud. a pleasant afternoon in the north and west of wales, but in the north and west of wales, but in the south—west of england he will brighten up later in the day, and then we headed to rain in hampshire, isle of wight, and kent. if you are travelling today, especially in east anglia and south—east england, there isa anglia and south—east england, there is a risk of travel disruption due to the amount of rainfall. we may

haveissues to the amount of rainfall. we may have issues with surface water flooding, for examples. overnight the rain edges down, and where we have laid rain, patchy mist and fog will be forming. a lot of dry weather around. temperatures indicating what you can expect in towns and cities. in rural areas it could get down to four celsius. tomorrow, we lose the front from the south—east but we have another area of low pressure. tomorrow a different day across northern and western parts of scotland with more cloud and lower temperatures and rain on the islands. we lose the rain on the islands. we lose the rain in the south—east. between, a lot of dry weather with a fair bit of sunshine. much drier across england and wales compared to what we have had of late. friday, the front coming in across the north—west on thursday sinks southwards taking rain with it. a

weakening feature as it gets to the south—east. saturday and sunday, drier weather with sunshine. hello, it‘s wednesday, it‘s 10am, i‘m victoria derbyshire. the top story today: a car hit have group of soldiers in paris injuring six, two seriously. we‘ll keep you up—to—date with that story through the morning. president trump promises "fire and fury" if there are any more threats to attack the united states. north korea responds by threatening just that — singling out a us military base 2000 miles away. north korea best not make any more threats to the united states. they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. people are having surgery to stop

themselves needing the loo when out because of the lack of accessible disabled toilets. ridiculous what people have to go through to go to the toilet when they are out. we‘ll be speaking to paralympian anne wafula strike to find out more. and it‘s now ten years since the financial crisis began. we‘ll speak to a group of people whose lives were affected about how they‘ve coped since. police in paris say a group of

soldiers have been hit by a car. a search sunday way for the vehicle and the driver. the low canical mayor said he had no doubt it was a deliberate act. well, this is as a result of an attack that took place just under an hour ago, maybe an hour now. a man or woman, we don‘t know, a driver, drove into a group of soldiers in the north western suburb of levallois—perre. it‘s about 15 minutes drive from the bbc bureau in the centre of paris. the car injured six of the soldiers, two of them seriously. those soldiers were part of what is called operation sentinell a heightened state of counter terror alert that‘s been in place now since 2012, since the attacks on the offices of the satirical magazine charlie hebdo. the mayor of the neighbourhood, levallois—perre, has said this was an intentional attack. levallois—perre, has said this as i say, two soldiers seriously injured and four lightly injured and perhaps of greatest concern after those injuries is the fact that the driver and the vehicle are still at large.

there is a large and very serious police operation going on throughout paris to try and track down the driver. north korea says it is considering launching a bass saoul strike in the western pacific. the threat comes after reports that pyongyang has produced a nuclear warhead to fit on its ballistic missiles. this programme has learned that the fire service has drafted in 60 counsellors to help treat traumatised firefighters following the grenfell tower fire. the figure is more than ten times the number who normally work for the brigade. we felt that the fantastic response, not just from the firefighters who went into the building, but also from the people who had to take some of those lengthy phone calls, that had come through to the 999 operators and the decision was taken right at the beginning to bring in counsellors so that nobody actually

left the site that evening without having spoken to someone. 500 new medical school places will be made available in england next year, as the government attempts to boost the number of home—grown doctors in the nhs. the target is to increase the total number of training places by a quarter by 2020, to help ease staffing pressures. the british medical association says it won‘t address the immediate shortage of medics. those who commit cruelty against animals "are getting away with it" due to the "leniency" of uk courts, according to a report. of the nearly 1a,000 people found guilty of animal cruelty in england and wales from 2005 to 2015, more than 92% avoided prison, the centre for crime prevention says. it has called for the maximum sentence for offenders to be increased from six months to five years. the government says it is reviewing the matter. that‘s a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30am. lorna says regarding ann‘s film on

the shocking lack of provision of disabled toilets. lorna says there isa disabled toilets. lorna says there is a big problem with people not being able to go to the loo on their own. doors don‘t open enough to get a wheelchair in. that‘s the first thing and then no rails to allow the person to transfer from wheelchair to the toilet seat is another thing. we will talk more about that in the next half an hour. if you are getting in touch with us, you‘re welcome. we‘d like to hear from you. perhaps you were forced, like some people, to wet yourself effectively because you just couldn‘t get to the disabled loo for whatever reason. use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. here‘s some sport now. the focus is on the person who

couldn‘t take part? the focus is on the person who couldn't take part? wayde van niekerk won the gold, but many will be wondering what might have been. ma kwa la be wondering what might have been. makwala has been at the heart of this story since he pulled out of the 200 meter heat and then last night, probably meant to be one of the biggest moments of his career as he was about to race in the final we found that he wasn‘t allowed to race because he had been affected by this superbug that‘s been going around at this world athletic championships. he said he was ok to race. the iaaf said they wouldn‘t authorise it, despite him coming to the stadium last night and trying to get in. he was refused entry. the a00 meter final was supposed to be one of the highlights of this championships here at the world athletics competition. as you will see, wayde van niekerk did win the race. he crossed the line in first place, but very muted celebrations for him and

after the race, he said afterwards that he had sympathy for makwala. after the race, he said afterwards that he had sympathy for makwalam is quite disappointing. i would love him to have his fair opportunity. he was in great, great form. i believe that he would have done very, very well at this championships and like isaid well at this championships and like i said earlier, i have got so much sympathy for him. does the iaaf have questions to a nswer does the iaaf have questions to answer then? well, certainly, many are asking, they weren‘t clear why they weren‘t clear with their information. why they weren‘t forthright with their information. much of the information coming out in the build up came from public health england and the tower hotel. this led to a lot of confusion and i spoke to the athletics commentator and she says the iaaf are bound by

their rules. when he presented himself, of course, the iaaf medical team had to go their protocol where he was showing symptoms of the norovirus and to the suggestion of public health england because it had been an issue as of sunday. 30 athletes have been quarantined so they were on edge clearly and they didn't want this to spread. well, the race has been and gone, but you have to wonder, i don‘t think we‘ve heard the last of this. the medal ceremony for wayde van niekerk is tonight. he will be on top of the podium u but you wonder if isaac ma kwa la podium u but you wonder if isaac makwala had been allowed to race whether he too would have been on the podium, victoria. thank you very much, jess. this newsjust in. a 15—year—old boy has been stabbed to death near croydon in south london. it is the second fatal stabbing of a teenager in london in 2a hours and

the 13th this year. a 15—year—old boy, stabbed to death, near croydon in south london. us president donald trump has threatened north korea with "fire and fury like the world has never seen". north korea best not make any more threats to the united states. us president donald trump has threatened north korea with "fire they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. he has been very threatening, beyond the normal state, and, as i said, they will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before. his threat follows the latest intelligence reports which suggest they‘ve produced a nuclear warhead small enough to fit on a ballistic missile. north korea is now threatening to launch a missile strike close

to america‘s military base on the south pacific island of guam. the island is home to 160,000 people and a significant us military base. here‘s what locals woke up to in this morning‘s news report. the developing story today involving the us and north korea. guam at the centre of it today. that information confirmed on record by homeland security advisor, knowing that homeland officials say that the short time frame the most important thing for the community would be to find concrete structures to shelter in place. we want you to know at this time the threat level on guam

has not changed. officials saying they don‘t want to alarm the public at this tile. local and military officials are said to be monitoring the situation after north korea threatened a pre—emptive strike. that follows words from donald trump saying any threat to the us would be met with fire and fury. our government does have a management plan in place to deal with all hazard type situations. once we have more information, we‘ll pass it along. this is how north korean state tv responded. translation: the strategic force is carefully examining the operational plan, with medium lalistic rocket in order to contain the us military

bases on guam including the anderson air force base. any plans to execute the preventative war devised by the us would be met with an all—out war, wiping out all the strongholds of enemies including the us mainland. but why does north korea want nuclear weapons? the us and the soviets divided korea into two at the end of world war ii. reunification talks failed and by 19a8 there were two separate governments. the 1950 to 1953 korean war entrenched the split. the communist north developed into a dictatorship. almost entirely isolated on the global stage, its leaders say nuclear capabilities are its only deterrent against an outside world seeking to destroy it. so how close are they? it‘s understood they have an intercontinental ballistic missile or icbm capable of reaching the us. they‘ve tested nuclear

devices five times. intelligence reports warn the country is also close to or has already achieved, "miniaturisation", that‘s developing a nuclear warhead small enough to fit on a rocket. so how likely is it that the threats will lead to a further escalation of violence. we can speak now to charlie wolf — he‘s a republican commentator and supporter of president trump. and in guam is senator michael san nicolas — he‘s the democratic chairman of guam‘s legislature on foreign relations. how do you respond to what donald trump is said and how north korea reacted ? trump is said and how north korea reacted? glow-worm will not get in of the countries and we will make sure we are prepared for whatever comes our way “—

sure we are prepared for whatever comes our way —— guam. are you alarmed? not comes our way —— guam. are you alarmed ? not particularly. comes our way —— guam. are you alarmed? not particularly. we are as ready as we were yesterday and will be tomorrow. you are prepared if north korea launch a missile at you? very much so. we have numerous defence assets between here and there and i am comfortable regardless what it is the north koreans tried to put towards the territory, we will be able to respond. you expecting them to fire a missile? i do not think it would be the wisest use of assets to fire at the smallest target farthest away from the concerns surrounding them. so you are, that the situation? very much so. what difference does it make when donald trump uses language like fire and fury and power? that is related to the north koreans. i

imagine they would be concerned when the president of the most powerful country in the free world uses that language. how do you react to the language. how do you react to the language donald trump has used and the reaction? we are talking about donald trump and his language and seem donald trump and his language and seem to forget it has been kim jong—un who has made crazy threat since he was elected. president heroin was elected in january he is responding rightly so. —— president trump was elected in january. whether it is guam, the united states, it is a precedent we do not want to see. he has put it into terms hopefully kim jong—un will understand by saying there are consequences for actions. hopefully he will be smart and not take any

further action with his nuclear programme. do you think the north koreans keep calling america‘s bluff. they keep doing it, but one day they may be surprise. saddam hussein thought the americans would never respond. they thought george bush would not respond and he responded. donald trump seems like a chap who responds and if i were in kim jong—un's shoes i would be smart to listen to what the president says. and stop trying to develop nuclear capability? i would stop. if you listen to secretary of state rex tillerson. his language is more diplomatic. even though we would like to bring them into the community of nations. tell them economically. generally in the past thatis economically. generally in the past that is what the nuclear programme has been used for. they would threaten and get more wheat and close down the programme and bring it up several years later. nobody

wants to see the country suffering. if you do a programme like this, you will face consequences. hopefully china will have seen this audio and know there is some serious stuff going on. thank you very much. earlier this year paralympian athlete anne wafula—strike came on this programme to talk about the moment she was "was completely robbed of her dignity." she had been forced to urinate on herself on a train after no accessible toilet was provided on herjourney. at the time the wheelchair racer decided to go public to raise awareness of the kind of obstacles people with disabilities have to face on a regular basis. she was given promises that it wouldn‘t happen again but eight months on this programme has learned that it‘s still happening — and she is still hearing stories from people facing similar problems. we asked her to make a special report for us on the issue. we played you herfull film earlier

— here‘s a short extract. my name is anne wafula—strike. i am a paralympian. i have an mbe. but last year i was forced to wet myself on a train. because the accessible toilet was out of order. it was one of the most humiliating experiences of my life. and it turns out this is not just an issue on trains. people with disabilities are having problems accessing toilets everywhere. and some are being forced to take extreme action. manny has spinal muscular atrophy. two years ago, she chose to have a permanent catheter fitted because there was nowhere for her to go to the toilet while out. they create a hole just beneath your belly button to put the tube through into your bladder. i just can‘t believe that you actually opted to have an operation without any medical need. yeah, no medical need, i wasn‘t incontinent. my urologist called it socially

incontinent, where basically, it meant i was incontinent when i was out because i couldn‘t go to the toilet. because there wasn‘t the facilities there. before the operation, manny needed a hoist to go to the toilet. there are some toilets that people with severe disabilities like her can use. but campaigners say there aren‘t enough of them. they are called changing places toilets. there are only around a thousand across the uk, and it‘s estimated quarter of a million people need to use them. some parts of the country have none. meanwhile, the state of standard disabled toilets is still hit and miss. recent research suggests that as many as a0% of restaurants and 30% of shopping centres don‘t have disabled loos. the equality act states that businesses have that legal duty

to make reasonable adjustments to accommodate them. hi, chris. hiya. despite promises from the rail minister that no one would go through what i went through, it is still happening. virgin trains has since had to apologise to passenger chris stapleton. i booked a journey to birmingham six weeks in advance, and they knew i was coming. but i found the toilet was out of order when i got on the train. and i ended up wetting myself. because i couldn‘t use it. so i‘ve decided to go to the rail minister and ask him what is being done. he tells me they are working on an action plan to improve accessibility. i‘m hoping that when people see the accessibility action plan, they will see in it a range of ideas that will notjust make sure passengers get a better service on the day, but that we can work more tactically and more strategically to make sure that more toilets are in service on trains in the first place. the action plan is due to be rolled out later this summer but it‘s not clear yet exactly

what it will contain. earlier this year, a government committee recommended changing places toilets should be made compulsory in all large buildings that serve the public. so far, no legislation has been put in place to make that happen. so it seems for the time being, some disabled people will still have nowhere to go. anne wafula—strike is with us in studio. also with us georgia moat — who actually had surgery to have a catheter fitted because of a lack of suitable loos. neil williams, who is with us from the british beer and pub association. and jonathan fogerty, who is a disability rights lawyer. what angers you most about what you have discovered? making this film made me realise that there is a big

group of people with disabilities that has been neglected. in this day and age and century, to know that young people will actually go to the lengths of having surgery, just because they lack toilets, it should not be happening. it is shocking. it is terrible. you had this particular surgery. is terrible. you had this particular surgery. it seems an extreme measure. tell our audience why you did it. i had mine fitted because other than when i was at home, there are limited places i can use the bathroom, because of the amount of equipment required for me to be able to use the toilet. before you have the operation, how often would you be able to find a bar, pub, where you could use the toilet? there were no bars or pubs i could use it. it was shopping centres, mostly. niall

williams, how do you plead? there is no doubt there is a lot more we can and should be doing. why are you not doing it? there is a great increase in the population and we will have more people would access needs. a lot of pubs are installing disabled toilets, but it is not always easy toilets, but it is not always easy to do that. some premises, there are issues with planning permission, there are sometimes the oldest buildings in the high street so making modifications is not straightforward. the kind of bars you were going to, old buildings, difficult to get planning permission? it depends where i go, but there are some places that have been newer built and they still have what they say is a disabled toilet, but it is no good for what i

require. i think people have been talking a lot, a lot of talk and no action. i think you can do more than what you are doing at the moment. it is not fair that the disabled group is not fair that the disabled group is left out. i did not think it is just about planning permission, i think it isjust just about planning permission, i think it is just about putting disability on the agenda. think it is just about putting disability on the agendam think it is just about putting disability on the agenda. it needs to bea disability on the agenda. it needs to be a priority. i think it is really important because some of the issues in the film is about as good management and training. we saw the terrible example of the man on the train. we want all pubs and we have urged them to do it through guidance to have a disability champion who thinks through issues on every premises. how many members? we represent 20,000 pubs. we urge members through our own channels and

through to their pubs to do as much as they can. how many members have disability champions? we do not know the statistics. we need to gather data. you do not know if there are two, or10,000? data. you do not know if there are two, or 10,000? we data. you do not know if there are two, or10,000? we don‘t data. you do not know if there are two, or 10,000? we don‘t know the figures. that is illustrative of how little you care. i think we do care and that is why we have produced guidance. we are on the second edition of this guide and we urge people to think through the issues and make sure there is proper information available. and access statement is really important. visit england, visit scotland have done work and you can fill it in online so work and you can fill it in online so people can see what is available in the pub before they visit because pa rt of in the pub before they visit because part of the issue is making sure there is enough information before they go. i have heard this so many

times. we need is now strong measures to be put in place. people who do not far —— do not follow the legislation should have action taken against them. the government needs to crack down on this. it is all right saying that there will be information available to see what is available before you go, but not a lot of people have two plan their journeys as hard as we do for a simple things like being able to go to the bathroom. fair point. it is. everything helps and we should do as much as we can to keep things improving. i think we have much as we can to keep things improving. ithink we have made progress but there is no doubt there is more we can do. are you ashamed about that? we are making progress and should continue to do that. when things go wrong it is terrible and we saw that in the film but through

volu nta ry we saw that in the film but through voluntary action and education, awareness, training, good management, we can make improvements, as well as investment. maybe the fact it is voluntary is the problem. it is not voluntary under the equality act, premises have to do as much as they can without unreasonable costs, that is how the legislation is framed, and we need to make sure we do as much as we can. jonathan you have listened to what has been said on behalf of the british beer and pub association. be clearfor behalf of the british beer and pub association. be clear for the audience, what is illegal when it comes to the equality act? good morning. very interesting and some very interesting exchanges of views and comments. can i take a slight step back and reflect on perhaps where we have come? there have been comments made about progress made. ifi comments made about progress made. if i look back over the time i have

been a wheelchair user, over 30 yea rs, been a wheelchair user, over 30 years, the first time i tried to travel from manchester to london on the train, going from piccadilly to euston, i could not access the carriage, i had to sit with post bags in the guard‘s van, so in terms of casting disability as a right, we have made progress over the past 30 yea rs. have made progress over the past 30 years. the disability discrimination act and equality act have helped. are we at a point where everything is satisfactory? we are certainly not and we have a long way to go and anne‘s experience shows we have a long way to go. one thing that has come up this morning, this is about the enforceability, enforcement organisation and measures in place to back—up the

legislation and that is the equality act. if we look at what the equality act. if we look at what the equality act says, at no point in the equality act does it explicitly said that service providers have to provide a wheelchair access a ball toilet. it says in their service providers have to make reasonable adjustment where a feature places a disabled person at a disadvantage all weather service provider is providing a facility to members of the public that reasonable adjustment should be made so that is made available to somebody with an impairment. what you think of the wording? one of the weaknesses of the legislation is its interpretation, that it is left to the courts to determine and there area number of the courts to determine and there

are a number of factors that will be taken into are a number of factors that will be ta ken into account are a number of factors that will be taken into account when considering whether or not a service provider has made a reasonable adjustment. one might be the financial cost of that reasonable adjustment, was it reasonably practical to make it? inevitably, you tend to find the largest service providers, high street shops, for example, are able to make those reasonable adjustments and people expect them, so in this case providing a wheelchair accessible toilet facility, but the smaller shops are unable to do so, all would claim they are unable, because of financial restraints. it's it‘s very difficult to say without people taking cases themselves, where they deem they have been discriminated against on the grounds of their disability because the enforcement measures i‘m afraid are still with that individual,

discrimination happens to that individual. very interesting. let me read you these messages from people watching. yvonne says, "i am so pleased this subject is being highlighted. this is a problem for people with crones. it is so important and yet receives very little publicity." jane says, "our son is 16. he is severely disabled and we have changed him hundreds of times on toilet floors, holding him on baby changers and using the back of his van in the car park. now he is an adult and he‘s on adult floors. baby is an adult and he‘s on adult floors. ba by changers is an adult and he‘s on adult floors. baby changers are not an option for him anymore. we try to time ourjourney so he does not need changing while we are out. fully inclusive disabled toilets are more rather than a useful mp." thank you for your time and your expertise. we really appreciate it. thank you. a number of soldiers have been hit

bya car, a number of soldiers have been hit by a car, a vehicle in the suburb of paris. jonny dymond is at the scene. what else can you tell us? around two—and—a—half, three hours, a vehicle went into a group of soldiers, they were part of operation sentinell a counter terror operation that‘s been in place for a couple of years. at least two soldiers have been seriously injured. i‘m in the neighbourhood. it isa injured. i‘m in the neighbourhood. it is a quiet and prosperous neighbourhood. the paris prosecutors office have opened a counter terror probe into what happened here. it has been sealed off. a large media presence and a fair number of residents standing around wondering what has happened here. the vehicle and the perpetrator, the driver of the vehicle, are being searched for pretty vigorously in what is a large police operation, but at the moment, it‘s unclear as to what the motive

was and clit whether or not this was pa rt was and clit whether or not this was part of any larger operation. the suburb itself is to the north—west of the centre of paris, 15 minutes drive from the arc detry oomph and it is an investigation into what happened and also a manhunt into finding the person who carried it out. thank you. jonny dymond in that west paris suburb where the attack place. with the news, here‘sjoanna in the bbc newsroom. north korea says it is considering launching a ballistic missile strike close to the american military base of guam in the western pacific. the threat comes after reports that pyongyang has produced a nuclear warhead small enough to fit on to its ballistic missiles. president trump has said that further threats from the north koreans will be met with fire, fury and power. this programme has learned that the fire service has drafted in 60 counsellors to help treat traumatised firefighters

following the grenfell tower fire. the figure is more than ten times the number who formally work for the brigade. 500 new medical school places will be made available in england next year as the government attempts to boost the number of home—grown doctors in the nhs. the target is to increase the total number of training places by a quarter by 2020 to help ease the staffing pressures. the british medical association says it won‘t address the immediate shortage of medics. that‘s a summary of the news. join me for newsroom live from 11am. the sports news. wayde van niekerk took gold in the a00m at the world athletics championships last night. the south african‘s win was overshadowed by the iaaf‘s decision to not let botswana‘s isaac makwala run, due to suspected norovirus. one man who definitely made his presence felt at these championships is kyle langford. he came oh so close to adding

to britain‘s medal tally butjust like laura muir the evening before he just missed out on the medals, finishing an agonising but honourable fourth. and can he do the double double yet again? following his breathtaking 10,000 metres win, britain‘s only medal winner of the games so far, mo farah, is back on the track. he beins his campaign for the 5,000 metres at just after 8 o‘clock this eveing. and the women‘s rugby world cup gets under way this afternoon, with england looking to defend the title they won back in 201a. all the competing teams are in action on day one of the tournament in dublin, with england taking on spain, wales in action against new zealand, and ireland taking on australia. those are your headlines for now. i will see you soon, victoria. representatives of a british model allegedly kidnapped in milan have dismissed as "evil" doubts and conspiracy theories about the ordeal, saying it was real and it was terrifying.

italian police said chloe ayling was snatched last month by a group calling itself black death. she‘s believed to have been drugged and transported in a bag to an isolated village near turin, where she was held for six days as her captors tried to auction her online. but as more details emerged, including that she went shopping for shoes and groceries with her captor, had breakfast with him before he handed her in to the italian consulate, questions have begun to be asked about the story. earlier i spoke to two models from the same agency as chloe ayling. sophia blake worked with her before and says that after what‘s happened she won‘t work with the agency again. holly gibbons says she‘s been working for a decade but says she‘s now questioning whether to leave the industry. holly, you have spent a decade in this industry. in what ways has it changed would you say?” this industry. in what ways has it changed would you say? i think when i first started, everything was all magazines. everything was, we didn‘t

have social media either. so, i think we weren‘t, we had a more professional relationship with photographers, with companies that we we re photographers, with companies that we were working with and now people can get into contact with us through our social media and they can see more about us which isn‘t always a good thing. so it has changed a lot and everything is very much online. websites and jobs like that rather than a magazine or, you know, bigger jobs as well. we have less people on a job. do jobs as well. we have less people on ajob. do you jobs as well. we have less people on a job. do you think it has become less safe as a result of those changes? it's hard to say. i think that maybe the younger girls are a little less, i think they‘re more

naive because they perhaps are trusting more people. when they first hear from somebody they may not do the checks that they need to, where i think, as you get older, they don‘t get in touch with you as much. maybe because you have more experience in the industry. they think that you‘re not going to fall for it as or fall for, you know, things that maybe we shouldn‘t do. which would be what? what would be something that you would say we shouldn‘t do in our industry? something that you would say we shouldn't do in our industry? when i was younger i maybe was so excited by it all, that i said yes to everything and i may not have put into process check—ups on who i was working with so much. so i would just say yes and i would go along to jobs and perhaps they were unprofessional or they would push me to do levels beyond what i should

have done. but now, i think only people that i‘ve worked with, i look for references, i ask other models how was the job? what to expect from thejob. so, it‘s age changes how was the job? what to expect from the job. so, it‘s age changes and how the industry has changed as well. sure. maybe those sort of people who haven‘t got the good intentions get in touch with younger girls. sophia, has this ever happened to you, you are slightly younger? you have had less time in the glakor modelling industry. have you ever felt in a position where you felt vulnerable? i think there is a lot of like because i am younger, they do seem to like prey on you, but i'm quite aware of it so ijust kind of like as soon as alarm bells ring i just like say no to the job or if it's on a shoot,le' just leave. have

you done that? you‘ve left a shoot because you felt uncomfortable? once, but to be honest, most of the timel once, but to be honest, most of the time i don't really feel that way. right. yeah. how, i mean, it‘s clearly very competitive. do you think that there are some girls who ta ke think that there are some girls who take risks or potentially take risks because they want to get on so much? i think there probably are girls like that out there. i think in the freelance industry we are all quite like connected and we speak to each other a lot and if someone has a problem generally you can talk to another model about it. and you've worked with chloe ayling in the past. what was she like to work with? she was, yeah, she was fine. she wasjust like a normal with? she was, yeah, she was fine. she was just like a normal person. she was just like a normal person. she just, she was quite qi the and quite reserved. yeah. you say you're freelance. when you are signed to an agency, how are they supposed to look after you? well, you'd think

that you would be safer going with an that you would be safer going with c that you would be safer going with an agency because like they're obviously taking their cut and that's for the safety like, you'd expect them to have done the checks before giving you the job and stuff. and does that always happen in your experience? i've never had a bad experience, but obviously the chloe things makes it seem like maybe the right checks aren't being done. and what‘s your view on that holly, when it comes to agencies, what sort of checks should they be making on behalf of their clients, people like yourselves? so, i would behalf of their clients, people like yourselves? so, iwould rely behalf of their clients, people like yourselves? so, i would rely on, behalf of their clients, people like yourselves? so, iwould rely on, i am signed with an agency and i would rely on them to do website checks, background checks, get references from other girls who have worked with them. and also exactly what they‘re expecting us to do in the job when we arrive, what times,

everything. however, istill want, even more information. so i‘ll still do my own checks, get in touch with the girls and say, "have you done thisjob before? the girls and say, "have you done this job before? what the girls and say, "have you done thisjob before? what do i expect from it?" so you can‘t put everything on your agent. you need to do your own checks as well. but, ifi to do your own checks as well. but, if i geta to do your own checks as well. but, if i get a job through the agent then i would hope, and i would expect it to be, safe and the measurements in place before i go to thejob. measurements in place before i go to the job. sure. and finally what percentage commission would an agent ta ke percentage commission would an agent take from your work? they take 20%. sophia, take from your work? they take 2096. sophia, what‘s your view about the kind of discussion regarding this story of chloe ayling and what‘s alleged to have happened to her? some people say it doesn‘t add up somehow? yeah. i think, some people say it doesn‘t add up somehow? yeah. ithink, a lot some people say it doesn‘t add up somehow? yeah. i think, a lot of people have been quite like, everyone thinks the story is a bit

fishy and there's something weird going on. i think, fishy and there's something weird going on. ithink, i fishy and there's something weird going on. i think, i understand why they say that because it is such an elaborate story, but i don't know. what about you, holly?” elaborate story, but i don't know. what about you, holly? i think the problem is that she has done interviews and she is dressed this a certain way that people are very, veryjmental. she has a smile on her face. and that‘s hard to believe that somebody has been through something very, very traumatic and than looks a certain way, maybe happy and maybe not sad or traumatised so people are finding it very difficult to believe and then the media has gone through, u nfortu nately the media has gone through, unfortunately her instagram or whatever social media and picked out images of her doing modelling jobs, doing glamour which people aren‘t very sympathetic towards, but that is ourjob and it doesn‘t

necessarily mean that she‘s lying or that it‘s a made up story or elaborated. thank you both. thank you very much, both of you. thank you very much, both of you. thank you for coming on the programme. thank you. it‘s ten years to the day since the credit crunch hit the uk leading to the global financial crisis that many of us are still feeling today. the credit crunch was caused by banks being too nervous to lend money to us or each other. the date when this started, 9th of august, 2007, that is when a major french bank told investors they would not be able to withdraw money from two of its funds. this triggered a sharp rise in the cost of credit, causing a credit crunch. the problem started before 2007, in the usa. back then, interest rates were low and cheap loa ns interest rates were low and cheap loans available. the banks lend

money and took on debt with no worries, which meant they lend to just about everyone, including people with weak credit ratings, known as the sub—prime market, that is people with poor credit history or levelling come. they did not worry about repayments because the right to collect those debts were sold on again and again. analysts saw these as low risk. then came a big increase in the cost of mortgage payments and people started to default. it came as a shock to financial institutions. the result was billions in losses written off. it is why banks like northern rock and newman brothers in america disappeared and others like royal bank of scotland hack to be taken over by the government to stay afloat. other banks got nervous

about lending to anyone and everyone. they were not be repaid and st lomans became more expensive and st lomans became more expensive and they demanded greater deposits. it caused the global financial system to come to a standstill and stock markets, investment value and confidence plummeted and the effects are still felt today. and so how have people who were affected recovered ? we can speak now tojude hill. she lost her family home and her holiday home when the credit crunch hit, her marriage collapsed soon after. michael foote was working on the trading floor for a stockbrokers in the city — but was fired when the crunch hit. and in maidstone is paul, who built up debt of around £60,000 on credit cards — at one point he had 20 credit cards in total. he‘s asked us to only use his first name. welcome. dude, you were doing well, you and your husband a holiday home

in florida. what happened? it because america went down before we did. looking back, we had bought at the wrong time. their economy went and it plummeted. we thought we would rented out to americans to cover the money and on ourjobs cover the money and on ourjobs cover what we have to pay here and ride it out but unfortunately the american family we rented to stop paying rent after being given that a month or two and so we had to get them evicted and that took several months. then the house over there was foreclosed and it was a knock—on effect here because of what was happening and the cost of living going up. we were not earning quite as much. the balance tipped and we lost our home over here because we had credit cards we used to furnish the home over there to get it going. you had used the house here to buy

the place in florida? we got an extra secured loan on it so we looked at trying to sell it to clear debt but because of house prices and what happened to the market here, there was not enough in it to cover what we owed. goodness. michael, you had just started this newjob and you were called in and you thought you were called in and you thought you were called in and you thought you were going to get a pay rise. such a shocking moment because i was walking up the stairs, thinking i have done my first trade, earned money for the company. walked upstairs and they said, we are sorry, we will have to let you go, pack your stuff and leave. we had just signed a new rental contract in the house and three in the house and two lost theirjobs that we can be packed up everything out of the house and moved home to the parents. that is the reason you were fired, because he were last in. was it that

policy? that is howl because he were last in. was it that policy? that is how i feel. rather than taking it more personally? fair enough. paul, ispoke than taking it more personally? fair enough. paul, i spoke to you on radio 59 years ago when the recession started to bite and you we re recession started to bite and you were surviving on credit. tell how you manage to do that, juggling cards. you think it would be difficult but it was not. i started on the credit cards a long time ago and always thought there could be a crash. i was talking of a property crash, but never saw the big crash coming. by the time it came i amassed quite a few credit cards because during the boom years everybody was throwing credit cards at me and offers and i kept them ticking over by doing balance tra nsfers ticking over by doing balance transfers and occasionally spending on the cards. when the crash came i had a significant amount on the

cards but... i have some here. during the crash a lot of companies withdrew cards and cut credit limits. i have a fair amount. that isa limits. i have a fair amount. that is a lot of credit cards. about 25. i think one is a debit card. there is about 120,000 of credit on there. that roughly gives me 50,000 and £60,000 worth of balance transfers. when the crash came and i had the money amassed, i started transferring money, being creative, and when the credit cards ran out i turned to my mum and says, why don‘t you open a credit card and i transferred the money to her cards and transferred them back and it kept going and going until the crash sorted disappeared. things picked up

slightly. have you paid off the debt? i have not paid it off. i transferred it into the mortgage. one of those flexible mortgages where you can pay as much as you like into the mortgage and now i am knuckling down and paying it off. like into the mortgage and now i am knuckling down and paying it offm is going quite well. your marriage ended as a direct result presumably of the stresses you went through? there were other things in a relationship but it was a big contributor, the stress. the ripple effect on some families were massive. do you feel you are still paying the price? do you think you have recovered and it seems a lifetime ago? i would say i have recovered. i have launched a new business and would not have done that without the financial crisis. it was hard in the short—term after it, sort of i had plans of being in

the city for years and suddenly you have to rethink everything. critics ask why no senior banker was prosecuted. do you wonder about that? i don't, personally. what about you ? that? i don't, personally. what about you? no, it isjust decisions. we all make decisions in life. i am ina we all make decisions in life. i am in a better place now. i have just finished my final draft of a book thatis finished my final draft of a book that is out in november on a different story. paul, what about you? people ask why gnome one was prosecuted for the decisions made in the financial institutions across the financial institutions across the world. do you think they are responsible? i think the whole system is responsible and politicians are responsible for the relaxed way they let people get away with this, bankers, especially gordon brown. but there are so many people involved. it is like when the

government makes the wrong decision, who do you shoot? the prime minister or those who made the decision is beneath them. it is institutional. it is not maybe an individual responsible. it is everybodyjumping on the bandwagon doing the same thing. thank you for coming on. all the best. the world athletics championships have seen stories of hope, despair, rivalry and triumph — and in some cases overcoming huge adversity. david omoregie is a 110 metre hurdler who made his senior debut for team gb this week — six years after the deaths of his father and sister. the 21—year—old is one of great britain‘s brightest young stars and he‘s here. hello. it is nice to see you. thank you for having the arm. make yourself at home. it was your goal to ta ke yourself at home. it was your goal to take part in the championships. what was it like in the stadium? amazing. i have competed at the

olympic stadium in the annual diamond league event and it has been a great experience. this is the worlds. the world championships, being a home championships, i wanted to make the team and i was excited to make the team and i was excited to get out there and had the crowd screaming for you on the line was amazing and a enjoyed the experience. you did not make the semifinals. how do you assess your performance? i am still young, i am a lwa ys performance? i am still young, i am always learning. it is my first senior championships, but it was disappointing. hurdles is unpredictable. if you hit one hurdle, it can jeopardise your race and unfortunately that happened to me, i hit too many and fell back. i definitely learned a lot from this experience and i hope in two years, next time, i will not make the same m ista kes next time, i will not make the same mistakes and hopefully challenge to make the final and maybe challenge

for medals. you learn from mistakes, you keep going. you studied for your gcses when your sister was killed by a drunk driver in kent and a month later your father died, he had cancer. what impact does it have on a young man and your outlook? of course, for anyone going through that adversity it is difficult, but in my situation it was a very difficult period. my dad, he was terminally ill with cancer. we were preparing for that and then a month later, a month before that, to find out my sister died in a car crash was out of the blue and that sent my dad ina was out of the blue and that sent my dad in a bit of the spiral and he passed away after that. it is difficult. at the same time, for me, it has given me a lot of dry. my dad

and sister were both hard—working, both doctors, both very intelligent people. from my family, we have a lwa ys people. from my family, we have always got this mentality that whatever you do you work hard and try to achieve what you can do and thatis try to achieve what you can do and that is what i carried on. at the time, iwas that is what i carried on. at the time, i was not doing well in academics and my athletics but it gave me drive to keep on working for them. slowly, over time, gave me drive to keep on working for them. slowly, overtime, things began to click in athletics and my academics. and here i am. your dad passed on those values of that work ethic? definitely. ithink my passed on those values of that work ethic? definitely. i think my dad worked incredibly hard for all of us. worked incredibly hard for all of us. we are a big family of seven in total. my dad worked to put us into

good schools and justin we do, the achieving the very best. that is my co re achieving the very best. that is my core value now in what i do. whatever it is in my athletics, no matter what will set me back, i know ican matter what will set me back, i know i can work hard and get to where i want. briefly, finally, your ultimate goal? i am 21 so hopefully i want to be a medal contender in the 2020 olympics. just to be competitive and we have a long way to go. we have a commonwealth games next year and the world championships in doha. between now and then it is taking the experiences and using them to get to that goal. thank you. very nice to meet you. on the programme tomorrow, we look at how children in some of the most deprived parts of the country are getting free meals during the summer holidays. good morning, we have heavy rain

across the south of england. this is across the south of england. this is a photo just sent in from surrey. chucking it down here. further north in scotland and northern ireland, sunshine and a pleasant afternoon. eventually northern parts of england and wales with sunny spells but further south, heavy and perhaps thundery rain continues, except perhaps kent, where we have sunshine. it will cloud over. a few showers. pleasantly warm. this evening, heavy rain continues across the south, eventually fading. clear skies elsewhere which means it could bea skies elsewhere which means it could be a cold start to thursday morning. any showers moving from the south—east and for most, a decent day with sunny spells and feeling warmer. goodbye. he says it plans to carry out a

missile strikes on on guam. north korea best not make any more threats to the united states. they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. they are looking at making enveloping fires around areas on guam. a car is driven at soldiers in paris. 500 new medical school places will be made available