good morning. i'm victoria derbyshire. welcome to the programme. "only absolute force can work on him" — says north korea as it accuses donald trump of being bereft of reason and claims it's making a plan to fire four rockets at the american territory of guam within days. an attack or threat on guam is an attack on the united states. they have said america will be defended. we are talking to a family from the pacific island of guam, caught in the middle of this war of words — about how their lives are affected. very serious warnings this morning that homelessness could rise by 70% in a decade. right now around a quarter of a million people are caught in the homeless trap, rough sleeping, in hostels, cars, tents, bus shelters. we look at the picture across the uk — and what can be done about it. paula and barry are with us this morning — both lost their jobs and ended up sleeping rough. they will be talking to us just after 9am. and also today.

if the parents don't have enough money, they can put us into school, then we get to have food. children in some of the most deprived parts of wales are getting free meals during the summer holidays — but should more be done in other parts of the uk to tackle the growing problem of holiday hunger? hello. welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning. we'll bring the latest news and sport and later we're going to talk about this photo. this is the former editor of vogue magazine alexandra shulman, she's posted this on instagram — no filters no airbrushing, just as she is at 59. some are saying it's refreshingly honest and normal,

others that it is hypocrisy after years heading a magazine packed with impossibly thin, tanned bodies. as a woman, does an image like this, inspire you? send me an email victoria@bbc.co.uk use the hashtag #victorialive. if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today. north korea will reveal its plan for firing missiles at a us territory within the next few days — says pyongyang — and if kimjon un approves, four rockets could shoot overjapan towards the island of guam with its us military bases. our correspondent yogita limaye has more. a show of strength in pyongyang. north korean state television showed a mass of people marching in support of the leadership in the country, even as the government made more threats. these are details of its plan to attack guam. four rockets will fly overjapan

and land in the pacific ocean near the island, it says. it's drills by us bomber aircraft like these, which are stationed at guam, that have angered pyongyang. while a fierce reaction from north korea is expected, this time it is matched by aggression from the us president. after saying pyongyang would be met by fire and fury, donald trump boasted about america's nuclear arsenal, a message which will be perceived as another threat by north korea. it's making people around the world nervous, and many countries have urged restraint. our strong wish is that the united states keeps calm and refrains from any moves that would provoke another party into actions that might be dangerous. the border is just about 50 kilometres from here, but things on the streets are not tense. this country has dealt

with threats from its neighbour for a long time now, and that's why perhaps now people here are unlikely to believe just yet that this war of words will turn into something more. yogita limaye, bbc news, seoul. let's speak to our correspondent lies in see all in south korea. let's pick up on that point, the focus is on guam but you are in a place that lives with this threat everyday —— live in seoul. place that lives with this threat everyday -- live in seoul. for decades the people of south korea and seoul have lived with the threat ofa and seoul have lived with the threat of a massive artillery on their border, and perhaps even the board tick—macro prospect of a nuclear strike. the focus is shifting to guam, the obscure island stuck in the middle of the pacific. what's interesting in seoul is that these people who live every day with the

prospect of a military confrontation and as was said in the report, they remained fairly calm. people are heading home here as it is 5pm in the evening. they are a good barometer of how serious the rhetoric is. we've heard from the defence chief of staff who say they are prepared for swift action and reminding everyone of the strong military relationship that south korea has with the usa. i think if you couple that with stronger words from us defence secretary saying north korea will be greatly overmatched, then the signal is warning kimjong—un overmatched, then the signal is warning kim jong—un then, overmatched, then the signal is warning kimjong—un then, despite the rhetoric coming from both sides, that if a military confrontation was to come, then to repeat the words of defence secretary mattis, it could be the end of the regime in pyongyang. let's bring you the rest of the

morning's news. matthew price is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. northumbria police has defended paying £10,000 to a convicted child rapist. 0fficers did it to gather information in an abuse investigation. the force is standing by its actions after 17 — mostly asian — men and one woman were convicted of grooming vulnerable girls in newcastle. critics said it could have put victims at greater risk. dan johnson reports. the faces of just some of those who abused young women across newcastle's west end. vulnerable girls were given drinks and drugs and passed around for sex. the gang was caught in one of the biggest child abuse investigations the north of england has seen. but now there are questions, outrage even, over some of the police tactics. was it right to pay a convicted child rapist £10,000 to be an informant? we don't support the police in doing this.

we think it was a misguided action, putting a person who had a track record of abusing girls into a situation with other vulnerable girls and perpetrators, and then paying them for the privilege of doing that. northumbria police has strongly defended the payment. it's surprising and disappointing for the nspcc to adopt the stance they have. this is an ill—informed position they have taken. the fact is, we absolutely did not plant xy the informant in the midst of vulnerable girls, that did not happen. the force says this information to get convictions stopped other girls being abused. northumbria's police commissioner says she was uneasy about paying a rapist, but ultimately she's satisfied everything was done properly.

these are complex cases, and difficultjudgments have to be made. dan johnson, bbc news. labour has accused the government top selling off valuable hospital assets to help plug a hole in nhs finances. the amount of health service land in england that has been earmarked for sale has more than doubled in the past year. analysis commissioned by labour found 117 sites deemed surplus were still in medical or clinical use. ministers said selling land would give vital funding for patient care and free up space for housing. some prisoners should be able to use video calling technology to stay in touch with their families. it could cut reoffending rates, the government has been advised. a review by lord farmer suggests so—called virtual visit should be made available for inmates who cannot attend jail because of

illness, distance or other factors. research indicates a prisoner who receives visits from a visitor is 39% less likely to reoffend than an inmate who had such contact. and we'll have more on this after 10am when we'll be talking to former prisoners and their relatives, and a representative from a social justice charity which works with offenders and ex—offenders. a slowdown in the housing market is spreading from london to other parts of the south east of england, surveyors suggest. the royal institution of chartered surveyors said the balance of their uk members reporting price rises injuly was down from 7% injune. this is partly due to more surveyors in the south east reporting house price falls than the number reporting increases. however, other parts of the country are still on an upward trend. the driver of a double—decker bus has been taken to hospital after it crashed into a shop on a busy london high street. police were called early this morning to reports of a

bus hitting a kitchen shop near clapham junction in south—west london. the 77 bus was involved. paramedics treated six passengers at the scene. two people are still trapped on the upper deck. schoolchildren in some of the most deprived parts of wales are getting free school meals during the summer holidays. they are paid for by the welsh government. half £1 million of its education budget is going into these lunch clubs, they include all—day activities. up to 3 million children across the uk risk going hungry in the holidays because poor families can't afford to pay for lunches that are normally provided by schools, according to a report by mps brought out earlier this year. and we'll bring you an exclusive report on this later in this hour. facebook has announced its launching a news service designed to compete with television and services like

netflix and amazon. users are soon going to see a new watch tap that's going to see a new watch tap that's going to see a new watch tap that's going to offer a range of shows, some of which have been funded by the social network. they will also see comments and connect with friends in dedicated groups. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9:30. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag #victorialive. if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. let's get some sport. for a man who told us yesterday he'd "lost everything", isaac makwala has the chance to be a famous world champion tonight. the botswana sprinter had been banned from competing in london due to the norovirus outbreak, and missed the chance to run in the 400 metres. but after his quarantine period ended yesterday afternoon, he was given the chance to run a solo time trial in the 200 metres. he had to achieve the qualifying time. and, roared on by the crowd,

he did — and took his place in the semi finals. he celebrated with a view press ups to show how fit he was. so around three hours later he was back, and remarkably makwala came second in his semi—final, qualifying for the final. just behind him in third was britain's nathaneel mitchell—bla ke, who went through as a fastest loser. the 400 metre champion wayde van niekerk also secured a place. for makwala though it was all about the chance to race again and show the world what he could do. i wish to thank the iaaf for giving me another chance. the crowd is so amazing. ijust me another chance. the crowd is so amazing. i just want to thank this crowd, they are so amazing. mo farah says he feels a "little beaten up" after qualifying for the 5000 metres final. he hurt his knee and leg in winning the 10k on friday night, but says he'll be fit for his last track race at a major competition. farah finished second in his heat, and admitted he didn't enjoy running in the rain. he'll also bejoined by fellow

briton andy butchart after he qualified as a fastest loser from the second heat. farah‘s track retirement is just around the corner and says he wants to go out on a high. you can't dream of something unless you do something about it. i've been given a chance in life, and i work hard for it, and i achieve what i've achieved through hard work and keep grafting. to all the kids out there, youngsters, you can be like me, and we've got to start thinking about how we can get the next generation to leave a legacy behind. there was late drama in the women's 400 metres. olympic champion shaunae miller wee—bo looked to have the race won, but went from first to fourth in about ten strides. the american phyllis francis won gold. england made an impressive start to their defence of the women's rugby world cup, thrashing spain 56—5 in dublin. wales lost to new zealand, and the hosts ireland won

a nail—biting opener against australia. they were leading by nine points after sophie spence's try, but the australians fought back, and ireland just clinched it, 19—17. and rory mcilory says he has nothing to prove ahead of the us pga championship which starts this evening in north carolina. he's among a top—class field, trying to stop the americanjordan spieth becoming the youngest player to complete a career grand slam. the biggest challenge in winning will be the incredible talent out there this week. i really don't feel any expectations. this is a chance to co m plete any expectations. this is a chance to complete the career grand slam. i'm here so i'm going to go ahead and try. but i believe i'm going to have plenty of chances and i'm young enough to believe in my abilities that it will happen at some point. doi that it will happen at some point. do i have to be the youngest? no, i don't feel that kind of pressure.

headlines at 9:30am. the number of people who are sleeping rough is going to rise by three—quarters in the next ten years, according to a new report. nearly 160,000 households, orjust under a quarter of a million people, are experiencing the worst forms of homelessness at the moment. this includes rough sleeping and sofa surfing. but detailed economic analysis suggests if current housing policies don't change, the figures will keep on rising. it's been carried out by academics at heriot—watt university for the homeless charity crisis. we can speak now to barry deighan. he's a chef who lost his home after becoming unemployed and slept rough for a year in parks and doorways in london. paula blennerhassett, a former care worker who was homeless for two years. she spent several months sleeping in her car. matt downie is director of policy at the charity crisis. bob blackman who is a conservative mp for harrow east and former member of the communities and local government committee.

his homelessness reduction bill was given royal assent earlier this year. it puts a legal duty on councils to help people facing homelessness. and in our 0xford studio is councillor ed turner. he's the local government authority's housing spokesperson and deputy leader of labour run oxford city council. welcome, all of you, thank you very much for coming on the programme. matt, how do you project future homelessness? well, the best academics in the field about heriot—watt have looked into this, and they have looked at all available data sources for the different forms of homelessness, so rough sleeping, but also people in hostels. they predict the future by looking at the current levels of homelessness and how they are driven, so we know what causes homelessness, for example cuts in certain types of benefits lead to different forms of homelessness.

reduction in provisions for people leads to rub sleeping. so we can reliably predicted, and one of the m essa 9 es reliably predicted, and one of the messages is that we know what causes homelessness and we know what solves it, so this is about political decisions going forward. did analysis take into account changes from the homelessness reduction bill when it is enacted? we are really interested in how we get these numbers down, and the most rheumatic in terms of solutions can be found in terms of solutions can be found in terms of solutions can be found in terms of the homelessness reduction act, that will require councils to deal with the problem early. in wales, it has happened for a couple of years, and... so did the economic analysis take that into account? yes. ijust wanted to check

that. barry, hello to you, very nice to see you. you lost your home after losing yourjob and very quickly fell into homelessness, tell our audience about the places that you slept in that year. when i became homelessness, i sofa served for a while, then i was in hostels, and there were times when i was sleeping in doorways, times i was sleeping in blocks of flats, or in a parkway. you mean in the stairwell? yes, a little bit warmer and a little bit more safe than being on the street. i had never experienced this before, it is the first time i experienced it, and it was a new experience for me. i'm very glad i overcame it. i think it is disgraceful that anybody has to live like that, i am notjust talking about me — anybody. has to live like that, i am notjust talking about me - anybody. what is it like? what words would you use to

describe it? i think it is shameful, yeah, that we have to put ourselves ina yeah, that we have to put ourselves in a position where we can evict people and expect them to sleep on the pavement, and it makes you feel like you are isolated, you feel rejected by society. you immediately come under that label where people make stereotypical remarks about you. you encounter more aggression by members of society. and i think it's very difficult to do it day in and day out because you are consta ntly and day out because you are constantly exhausted, you never have an opportunity to have a decent night's sleep. let me bring in paula, barry has described it, you know, in incredibly sad and articulates terms, and you experienced similar. you were a care worker until you hurt your back, you

lost yourjob, your mobile home, and a new—found yourself living in your carfor a new—found yourself living in your car for several a new—found yourself living in your carfor several months — a new—found yourself living in your car for several months — tell our audience what that is life. it is absolutely terrifying, day by day you are finding something to do, and then at night it is like not knowing who is outside, because tojust get some privacy, you put towels up at the windows, just to get that tiny bit of privacy that otherwise you wouldn't get. eventually, you got into a homeless hostel, so you had a roof over your head, but it still wasn't great, was it? not at all. i wasn't great, was it? not at all. i was surrounded 24/7 by alcoholics and track addicts. some people with mental disabilities. —— drug addicts. which i could help, because my training in my work helped me

deal with that. but it was getting harder to not be drawn into, like, the alcohol stage of it. i had to stay sober 24/7, i couldn't go out, because i was scared i would get pulled into it. sol because i was scared i would get pulled into it. so i chose to stay completely sober through that time so completely sober through that time so that i wouldn't get pulled into the alcohol side of it. sure. let me bring in conservative mp bob blackman, the estimates from crisis are alarming — if things carry on as they are, you have heard they take into account the bill that god royal assent earlier this year, as a party that has been in government for many yea rs, that has been in government for many years, do you accept some responsibility? all governments have to a cce pt responsibility? all governments have to accept responsibility for people sleeping rough. including the conservative government that has beenin conservative government that has been in powerfor seven years. conservative government that has been in power for seven years. the

reality is that the reasons for people becoming homelessness are very different... including cuts to benefits. for the last 30 years, governments of all persuasions have failed to build and of housing in this country to meet demand. we can all agree on that. the good news is thatis all agree on that. the good news is that is increasing. i put it to you, including the welfare cuts, the likes that? one of the things that a solution to this... of course we're just go to talk about solutions, but do you accept that cuts to welfare benefits have contributed partly to homelessness? the important thing is that we build more homes. you are ignoring my question. the reason why benefit cuts have come in is because of the spiralling cost of friends, because of the shortage of supply in the first place. so what we have to do is provide more low—cost housing which councils can then charge rents... the reason you brought in

benefit cuts was to reduce the deficit. indeed, and the housing benefit bill has spiralled out of control over the last ten years. benefit bill has spiralled out of control over the last ten yearslj will control over the last ten years.” will try again — do you accept that cuts to welfare benefits have in pa rt cuts to welfare benefits have in part contributed to the homelessness problem in britain? no, because as the housing benefit bill increased, so the housing benefit bill increased, so rents increased, so the reality was that money was being thrown at the problem, rather than dealing with the problem, which is the provision of more housing at an affordable level that people can pay affordable level that people can pay a reasonable rent. what do you say to that? we are going to disagree on welfare , to that? we are going to disagree on welfare, the leading cause of homelessness is the loss of a private tenancy, and that is about the affordability gap. in london and the affordability gap. in london and the south—east in particular. i would say that this is notjust about welfare, it is about other

things too, and if you go back to the early 20005, both the major government and the blair government, there were extraordinary things happening in this country where people from abroad were looking at u5, people from abroad were looking at us, we people from abroad were looking at us, we were people from abroad were looking at us, we were tackling homele55ne55 really 5ucce55fully — so we know what works, we prevent homele55ne55, thati5 what works, we prevent homele55ne55, that is why the bill is so important, but when it does happen, you act quickly, get people do permanent accommodation a5 you act quickly, get people do permanent accommodation as soon as possible, and don't allow people to sort of get stuck in the homele55ne55 5y5tem, people 5tuck sort of get stuck in the homele55ne55 5y5tem, people stuck in hostels and night 5helter5 homele55ne55 5y5tem, people stuck in hostels and night shelters and refuges for far too long. a5 paula 5ugge5ted, there is quite a lot of 5upport 5ugge5ted, there is quite a lot of support needs in the system that can prevent people from moving on. ed turner is the leader of oxford city council, labour run, how do you think the homelessness reduction act is going to impact in your area? will it help people? will it cause you to stop people becoming homelessness? a lot of councils are

doing exactly what the act is asking us doing exactly what the act is asking us to do, and council worker5 doing exactly what the act is asking us to do, and council workers on the front line see the horrible consequences that we have heard about every day and wants to help. sorry to interrupt, of course they wa nt to sorry to interrupt, of course they want to help, but we know, because we have covered it many times, that the priorities are the most vulnerable — single women with children, young people et cetera. so people like paula barry would not be considered a priority, and this act will make you consider them priority too. a lot of councils have already tried to help. the key thing is how we are able to help, and that is why it is important to return to the point is we have picked up on, making sure there is genuinely affordable accommodation for people to go to. i looked on the internet how many affordable properties there are in oxford advertised on right move, not one. so build some more

houses, then. that is what we are trying to do. but we're not allowed to borrow to build council hou5ing above a certain level. what would be really good is if we can form a delegation to mini5ter5 really good is if we can form a delegation to ministers and say let'5 5top delegation to ministers and say let'5 stop the red tape that is 5topping council5 building hou5ing, that council5 borrowed to build, it make5 that council5 borrowed to build, it makes sense for our communities and will help prevent homele55ne55. makes sense for our communities and will help prevent homelessness. so you are not allowed to borrow to build social housing. there is a cap on borrowing for building hou5ing. there is no cap on council5 borrowing for other purposes, only to build hou5ing, it is crazy. borrowing for other purposes, only to build housing, it is crazy. what is your limit? it is set in each individual local authority. in my authority, we have got a small amount of headroom left, borrowing headroom, and we are not allowed to borrow beyond that. every council is in that position, you are not allowed to — itju5t doesn't make 5en5e. allowed to — itju5t doesn't make sense. how much allowed to — itju5t doesn't make sense. how much are allowed to — itju5t doesn't make sense. how much are you allowed to borrow? in oxford, the figure is

about 250 million, but we had to borrow 220 million anyway to make a payment to the government, so we have a small amount of money to play with, and in some cases council5 have a small amount of money to play with, and in some cases councils are borrowing up to the limit. why is a lot of money, you could build thou5and5 lot of money, you could build thousands of social homes. 220 million has already been paid to the government because we were required to do that. council5 5ay, let us borrow to build again. at the 5ame let us borrow to build again. at the same time, let'5 link hou5ing benefit to real rent5 same time, let'5 link hou5ing benefit to real rents in the market. bob blackman, your government is doing this, what do you say to ed? we have to have more low—cost housing, units that can be provided for as little as £20,000 per unit, and then allow local authorities to charge the rent on those properties thatis charge the rent on those properties that is commensurate with the cost of providing them, rather than

market rents, which of course very difficult to afford, and for people who are unemployed, depending on benefits, it reduces the benefit bill, allows local authorities to develop housing quickly and more cheaply, and it is a solution to the problem of the fact that we are not building and of homes. right. so with that going to happen, then? building and of homes. right. so with that going to happen, themm is not a government policy yet, but iam is not a government policy yet, but i am pushing the government to look at it as one of the solutions. the other solutions, by the way, is housing associations are sitting with large amounts of money in their reserves that could be used to build more social housing. there are also councils sitting with large reserves. what have you got in oxford? we have got a balance of {3.5 oxford? we have got a balance of £3.5 million over our four year plan, the minimum we are allowed to go down too. are not as much as some. people are not sitting on a

war che5t, we just want to build council hou5e5. war che5t, we just want to build council houses. some councils are, thank you very much. paul says there is little chance of solving the homelessness problem when rough sleepers are treated as criminals. very disturbing to see the projected figures, i live in runcorn, i have seen figures, i live in runcorn, i have seen the first cases of homeless people sleeping rough. it is even worse in liverpool. the bedroom tax and universal credit have been a big factor in people losing their houses, amongst other things. and pizzas, i was homeless for two yea rs, pizzas, i was homeless for two years, and councils do not care one bit, and only a homelessness charity helped me, iam now a bit, and only a homelessness charity helped me, i am now a share. thanks very much for coming on the programme. still to come, north korea accuses donald trump of being "bereft of reason". it talks about plans for sending four rockets into the sea around the island of guam. we'll be speaking to

a teacher on the pacific island which has suddenly found itself at the centre of a crisis. with some schools in wales offering free meals during the holidays, should more be done to tackle holiday hunger in other parts of the country? here's matthew in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today's news. north korea says its plan to fire four missiles near the us territory of guam will soon be ready, as a war of words with washington intensifies. state media said rockets would pass overjapan and land in the sea about 17 miles from guam, if the plan was approved by kim jong—un. it denounced donald trump's warnings of "fire and fury" and said the us leader was "bereft of reason". a police chief has said paying a child rapist £10,000 as part of an investigation into a grooming gang was the "right thing". northumbria police's steve ashman said the information provided by the man led to the conviction of 17 men and a woman for abusing girls in newcastle. charities have criticised the force

for paying the criminal. labour has accused the government of selling off valuable hospital assets to help plug a hole in nhs finances. the amount of health service land in england that has been earmarked for sale has more than doubled in the past year. analysis commissioned by labour found 117 sites deemed surplus were still in medical or clinical use. ministers said selling land would give vital funding for patient care, and free up space for much—needed housing. some prisoners should be able to use video calling technology to stay in touch with their families. it could cut reoffending rates, the government has been advised. a review by lord farmer suggests so—called virtual visits should be made available for inmates whose family members who cannot attend jail because of illness, distance or other factors. research indicates a prisoner who receives visits from a visitor is 39% less likely to reoffend than an inmate who had no such contact. the driver of a double—decker bus has been taken to hospital after it

crashed into a shop on a busy london high street. police were called early this morning to reports of a bus hitting a kitchen shop near clapham junction in south—west london. the 77 bus was involved. paramedics treated six passengers at the scene. two people are still trapped on the upper deck. schoolchildren in some of the most deprived parts of wales are getting free school meals during the summer holidays. they are paid for by the welsh government. £0.5 million of its education budget is going into these lunch clubs, they include all—day activities. up to 3 million children across the uk risk going hungry in the holidays because poor families can't afford to pay for lunches that are normally provided by schools, according to a report by mps brought out earlier this year. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10:00am. here's some sport now.

isaac makwala could become one of the strangers but most celebrated world champions later after being banned from competing in london because of a norah virus outbreak. the botswana sprinter was given a reprieve via this time trial which he used to get through to the semifinals. later on he made the final, which is tonight. he was particularly happy and full of beans as well. mo farah‘s progress to the 5000 metres final was secured. he hurt his knee and a leg in winning the 10,000 metres the other day but insisted he would be ok for his race on saturday. ireland held on to win their opening match in the women's by their opening match in the women's rug by world their opening match in the women's rugby world cup beating australia 19-17 in rugby world cup beating australia 19—17 in dublin thanks in part to that late try. england won co mforta bly that late try. england won comfortably but wales lost to new zealand. rory mcilroy said he has

nothing to prove ahead of the us pga championship which starts later today in north carolina. he is among a top—class field, trying to stop jordan spieth becoming the youngest player to complete a career grand slam, he's just 24. player to complete a career grand slam, he'sjust 24. will player to complete a career grand slam, he's just 24. will be live at the london stadium looking at what's to come ahead in the world athletics championships at 10am. north korea says its plan for a missile strike on the us territory of guam will be ready by mid august. state media says that if kim jong—un approves, rockets will shoot over japan and land in the sea about 17 miles from the island's military bases, just hours after donald trump promised to meet any threat to the united states with "fire and fury". he tweeted another statement saying, "my first order as president was to renovate and modernize our nuclear arsenal." "it is now far stronger and more powerful than ever before. " he also adds, "hopefully we will never have to use this power,

but there will never be a time that we are not the most powerful nation in the world." well it's already 10th august, so how worried should the world be? let's go live to guam and talk to nelia grace mercado and her 10—year—old son jeshuah. neila is a teacher on the island and works for the us department of defence at one of their military bases. victoria guerrero is also from guam and says she is "terrified" at the prospect of military action. karin von hippel from the defense think—tank rusi, as well as drjames hoare, who used to be britain's most senior diplomat in north korea. nelia, tell me how you and your relatives and children are feeling on the island right now? what i'm

sensing from a friends on social media and the friends i see everyday, although we are getting as year and says from a government that we are prepared to protect ourselves should north korea send a missile hour wait, we are carrying anxiety under our hearts in our day—to—day lives. our governor has asked us to stay calm and proceed with our lives, but it's quite difficult to do so. this is the first time that we've heard any formal threat from north korea. we are anxious about what's to come, particularly the latest news that they are going to orare latest news that they are going to or are threatening to approve the release of those missiles, miles away from guam. we are very concerned despite assurances from

our local government leaders. you tweeted the president donald trump. we can have a look at that now. you showed a picture of yourself and your children. why did you do that? i thought it was important for the president to see the faces of guam. guam isn't some abstract point on the map with an american flag on it. it's a dimensional community. we have a history and a culture, we have a history and a culture, we have life that people are fighting to keep, survive and thrive with. much like that of any other community in the united states. i wa nted community in the united states. i wanted him to understand that their faces. also, to release the lack of understanding that much of our

nation might have, if not enough misunderstanding, of what guam is. i stated to your producer that even fox news didn't get their facts right about guam. for the sake of my island, i wanted the president to see that there are valuable lives here, much like his and any of the people in the usa. we are as complex and as alive as any of the states, and as alive as any of the states, andi and as alive as any of the states, and i wanted him to be aware of the faces for which he is responsible. are you sending him that photo of yourfamily are you sending him that photo of your family because you want to protect you, or are you sending it to say please tone down your language? i'm sending it that photo for him to be aware. ok. let me bring in victoria. what is your view

of what is going on right now? do you really think north korea could potentially send four rockets into the sea around guam in the next week? i think they have the capability, ye5. she was right that thi5 capability, ye5. she was right that this is the first time we are hearing such a direct threat in term5 hearing such a direct threat in terms of here is the time we are going to attack, thi5 terms of here is the time we are going to attack, this is the kind of attack we are going to do. guam i5 readily caught in the middle of other countries conflicts. we have been told in the past that we would been told in the past that we would be attacked by north korea or china. i believe china has mi55ile5 called the guam killer5. a5 a mother, thi5 cau5e5 the guam killer5. a5 a mother, thi5 causes a lot of anxiety. largely because it is important to understand guam'5 hi5tory because it is important to understand guam'5 history and that we are a unique people in the world.

the indigenous people of our i5land have been here for 4000 years. we have been here for 4000 years. we have been here for 4000 years. we have been colonised for centuries and our relationship to america is that of a un recognised colony. the5e conflicts are happening without anything to do with us. the military presence here has been without our consent. you used to be written's most senior diplomat in north korea, if north korea fires rockets into the sea around guam, is that an act of war? probably not. i think we arejumping that an act of war? probably not. i think we are jumping rather ahead. they've talked about making a plan, then that plan has to be approved. what i think they are doing is saying we could do this. they are hoping there will be some response so hoping there will be some response so they can draw back. i don't think the north koreans are actually suicidal, and i think that they are concerned that mr trump makes these

sorts of throwaway remarks, and that they need to do something to say that you can't do this without a possible consequence. i don't think they will necessarily fire their rockets at guam. if they do, i don't think those rockets are likely to be terribly successful. one of the things i think the north koreans still cannot guarantee is the a ccu ra cy still cannot guarantee is the a ccu ra cy of still cannot guarantee is the accuracy of their weaponry of that type. if they do, what would you expect donald trump to do?” type. if they do, what would you expect donald trump to do? i have no idea in the world. what would you say? it's hard to say. what you are 5eeing say? it's hard to say. what you are seeing is say? it's hard to say. what you are 5eeing i5a say? it's hard to say. what you are seeing is a us president that has an ad hoc foreign policy. he doesn't have a team that comes together and agree5 have a team that comes together and agrees on a strategy and then they all follow it. secretary of state rex tillerson says one thing, trump says another thing and mike pence says another thing and mike pence says another thing and mike pence says another thing. it's a really

uncomfortable situation. they are like this on all foreign policy issues but this is potentially the most dangerous. although they may not agree on a formal policy, it seems clear to me donald trump is saying if you do anything you will regret it. but a us president should not be threatening to potentially use of nuclear force. the president should be trying to calm the world down. he's talked about firing... he has ratcheted it up instead of calming down. dr hoare, you don't think this is going to be a nuclear war? i don't know, but there have been equally apparently dangerous crises in the past. it's not so long since the north koreans showed the leader on television with a map on the wall showing the cities of the united states they could attack. the

cities, not some intermediate place but actually attacking the usa. of course, they backed away. they didn't have the capability. they may still not have the capability. i think that, depending on how washington react, you have signs that the north koreans would quite like to get out of this tense relationship that has worked up over the last two months. let's go back to guam because we can hear from nelia's son. hello. how are you? good. you're talking to great britain, welcome and thank you. you're welcome. how are you feeling right now? a bit shy. don't be, please! what has your man said to you about what's going on in the world with north korea and other world with north korea and other

world leaders —— mum? world with north korea and other world leaders -- mum? that they are going to launch a missile at guam, and that's all she has told me. what about the missiles that protect guam? there's a missile that protects guam, it it's called the antiballistic missile defence system. does that make you feel safer? yes. what about the defences of guam? there is a system in place for the region, there are of guam? there is a system in place forthe region, there are us of guam? there is a system in place for the region, there are us troops throughout the region, us troops in japan and south korea, almost 60,000 us troops as well as us civilians throughout the region. there are defences everywhere, but this could

easily spiral out of control if both leaders are not careful to ratchet it back. jeshua, finally, what would you say to the leader of north korea?” would say, please stop, there are families that live here on guam. my grandma just had knee surgery, she is in the hospital, please stop. thank you to jeshua is in the hospital, please stop. thank you tojeshua and his mother, and victoria guerrero, and drjames hoare and karin von hippel from rusi. let me read this message, michael said that north korea consistently threatens the safety of us citizens and rock write the response, and somehow he is painted as the bad guy and all of this. ——

and trump rightly response. still to come, facebook‘s revamped video service, will it be a competitor to netflix and amazon? schoolchildren in some of the most deprived parts of wales are getting free school meals these summer holidays paid for by the welsh government. £500,000 has been allocated, which still means only a small number of schools are covered. a report earlier this year said that up to three million children across the uk risked going hungry in the holidays. catrin nye has been meeting children in cardiff. can you tell me what your favourite foods are? i love chicken nuggets with beans! chicken nuggets with beans! yeah! i like the pasta. do you? pizza? pizza as well. you like pizza as well?

bolognese! and how many bowls did you have? three?! did anyone else get any? school holidays equals hungry kids. what's mummy‘s favourite food? don't know. mummy likes lasagne, doesn't she? and salmon. do you like that? no! this is millbank primary in cardiff. it's one of 39 schools in the most deprived parts of wales providing breakfast and lunch in the school holidays, just like they normally do in term time. for the first time this year, the welsh government's funding lunch clubs, which also involve all—day activities. you guys have to go to school all year round. are you not fed up? no. you don't mind coming in the summer? no.

harrison and jacob are both eight. they think it's a good idea. my mum think it's good because she works, has a full—timejob, and normally i sit home with my nan, but because i'm in here, it makes a big difference. if the parents don't have enough money, they can put us into school and then we get to have food. they don't agree on whether school is better with or without lessons. in summer school we don't have to do as much work as normal school. summer school is better than normal school? yeah. do you think so? you don't?! normal school is better, because you get to learn and you get a good education.

can you tell when pupils in your class haven't eaten, when they come to school hungry? yeah, yeah. if they're not prepared for their day, already off on the wrong foot, it affects mood, concentration, behaviour. without the fundamentals in place, children can't learn. this project is all about providing the meals that you always get in school term, in holidays as well. do you think that helps parents? i think every parent that brings a child in here is gratefulfor it. lots of different reasons — childcare, food, entertainment. they're going to be stuck in the house anyway, aren't they? doing nothing. if the weather is bad, you can't take them anywhere. at this time, so many people are struggling, like me. i'm not working at the moment.

having to make sure your kids get fed, notjust feeding them with anything but giving them the right food. we're constantly restocking the cupboards, constantly doing shopping, sometimes you go to the shop and at the checkout you go through your receipt to see if the assistant made a mistake. my daughter is seven, so bringing her in here is a great saving for me. they're interacting with other children, playing, having a nice meal... it's not a full school day. they don't look at it as they're in school, they look at it as fun. there are people on free school meals — suddenly, that is taken away and the family budget has to stretch that bit further. do you see children going without in the summer?

in swansea recently they actually ran out of food in the food bank. if you think that it's been decided that children need free school meals because of the amount of income the family has got, its not surprising during the long summer holidays, when suddenly those things are not there, families are struggling. the summer lunch club costs about £30 a day per child. a third of the children who go to this school have free school meals, but you don't need to be eligible to get the free food in the holidays. do your kids have free school meals? we don't qualify, unfortunately, because my husband receives working tax credits — not a great amount a week, but because he receives that, they don't qualify for free school meals. so for them it's an added bonus. they have sandwiches when they come to school in term time, this is an added bonus, because they get a school meal. what do you like about school?

what's your favourite food? my favourite food is chocolate spread sandwiches! why? because there's chocolate. what's your favourite food? strawberry cheesecake. why? because it has a really good taste, and it isn't that healthy, but sometimes you can make yourself free like a bird. bye! you guys have eaten more of your vegetables than me. i'll be in trouble! a report by a cross—party group of mps warned that three million children across the uk risk

going hungry in school holidays. the welsh goverment has put £500,000 of its education budget, controlled in cardiff rather than westminster, into these lunch clubs. is it realistic to scale this up? money is very tight, and at the moment it's only a few schools. it may not be feasable to run it in every school, i accept that, but actually in schools which need it, i think the cost has got to be worth it. it's part of closing the education gap, making sure children get food they need over the summer holidays. i can't think of anything more tragic than being able to predict at the beginning of a child's life what their gcse results will be. at the moment, the education departments in england and scotland are not allocating specific funding to lunch clubs.

charities and local authorities are able to set them up, but there are calls for more central government money. katrin nye reporting, more on this in the next hour of the programme, asking whether this should be rolled out across the rest of the uk, let me know your views. facebook is spreading out into the tv market, taking on the like of netflix and amazon. rory cellan—jones is here, what are they launching? they are launching a new tab on facebook called watch, where you will be able to watch original video content. there is already a lot of video on facebook, including from this show, and this is just starting in america, you won't see it in the uk for a while, but a real mark of how competitive this world is. they are doing some deals, they will get original content from the likes of buzzfeed,

some american sports franchises, basketball and so on, and they are offering you the chance to watch tv through facebook. mark zuckerberg has a slightly cheesy quote, watching a show doesn't have to be passive, it can be a chance to share an experience and bring people together who care about the same things, so what about caring and sharing, but really they are about advertising revenue. they are already hugely dominant. i think they are looking at netflix and amazon, but also looking at youtube, which is owned by google, the other big powerhouse of the internet in terms of advertising. they are looking at how much money youtube is now churning out for google, and they are thinking, we would like some of that. i think it is going to be pitch to the kind of people who make you know, that whole class of people who make money from advertising on youtube — what were amateurs have become professionals. i think they would like to see some

of those people pitching up on facebook. but youtubers got a big start. yeah... so we will get it in this country eventually, will we? the option to watch on facebook if we wa nt the option to watch on facebook if we want to? yeah, and i'm sure they will try to do deals with global content providers... including the bbc? who knows?! of course, we wouldn't get the advertising money from it. but we would be paid for our content. if we provide original drama or whatever. yeah, a question of where you want your content to end up, facebook, i mean, there are concerns about the sheer power of these giant american companies. facebook, google, apple, amazon and so on, they dominate our world, and there is a big battle between them to be the top dog in the online advertising world. thank you very

much, rory. let me bring you some news about nhs waiting times, it is from our health editor, hugh pym. the number of people waiting for dean surgery in england injune was the highest since december 2007. —— for routine surgery. 3.8 million patients were on waiting lists, 19% we re patients were on waiting lists, 19% were waiting for longer than the target of 80 weeks. the number of people on waiting lists injune was the highest since december 2007, the highest for ten years. more on that later. still to come, family relationships are key to stopping prisoners reoffending. a government review is recommending that inmates should be able to talk to relatives on skype to get in touch with them. we will talk to former inmates and their relatives. news and sport and ten, but first the weather. a lovely start across much of the

uk, some showers around, rain across northern parts of the country, but look at these lovely pictures, this one from east yorkshire, blue skies, and as we drift into derbyshire, again blue skies, fair weather cloud, not much more than that. through the course of the day, for most of us, with high pressure in charge, staying settled, but this weather front is still producing some showers, patchy rain across kent, and we have got another one across the far north of scotland, introducing more cloud, and also some rain, mainly across the northern isles. so a lot of dry weather, fair weather cloud bubbling up weather, fair weather cloud bubbling up through the day, gentle breezes, in the sunshine, it will feel quite pleasant. temperatures roughly where they should be in august, perhaps a smidgen below. from the midlands down towards the isle of wight, heading towards the isles of scilly, all points in between, we are looking at a dry afternoon with some sunshine. sunshine across wales,

cardiff up to 20 celsius, sunny spells for more than island, a little bit more in the way of cloud. —— sunny spells for northern ireland. moving across the bulk of scotland, dry and sunny. across northern england, a similar story, dry and sunny. the midlands seem the same with justice hang dry and sunny. the midlands seem the same withjustice hang back dry and sunny. the midlands seem the same with justice hang back of cloud, the balance of yesterday's rain, the remnants of a weather front which could produce a shower. not expecting showers in london this afternoon, but a fair bit of sunshine, temperatures up to 20 or even a 21. through the evening and overnight, early evening sunshine, then clear skies developing, but at then clear skies developing, but at the same time a weather front coming in across west of scotland, northern ireland, that will introduce rain, accompanied by strengthening winds as it sinks southwards through the course of the overnight period. you can see why, we have got a cold front that is bringing rain, and other occlusion culling in right behind it, a weaker affair, but it

does mean, for many parts of england and wales, we will start on a sunny note, but as the weather fronts push southwards, with windy conditions, you will find cloud will continue to build. the far south—east of england will hang onto the sunshine probably until evening time. but it all goes through june the until evening time. but it all goes throuthune the course of friday night, so by saturday we start on a chilly note, but a further sunshine around, one or two showers dotted here or there across the highlands, highs up to 22, sunday is also looking like being mostly dry. hello it's thursday, it's ten o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. north korea says it plans to fire missiles at guam will soon be ready. the us warns the north koreans their actions could mean the end of the regime. although we are getting as you

a nswe rs although we are getting as you answers from a government that we are prepared to protect ourselves should north korea send a missile our way, we are carrying anxiety and our way, we are carrying anxiety and our hearts in our day—to—day lives. prisoners relationships with their family are key to stopping them reoffending and vital to reforming a troubled prison service. we'll be asking a man who's been injail three times what impact the support of his family had on him. a report by mps said that up to three million children across the uk risked going hungry in the holidays. should more be done to tackle the growing problem of holiday hunger? here's matthew in the bbc newsroom with a summary of todays news. north korea will reveal its plan for firing missiles at a us territory within the next few days — says pyongyang — and if kimjong—un approves, four rockets could shoot overjapan towards the south pacific

island of guam with its us military bases. our correspondent robin brant is in seoul in south korea — where the mood, despite mounting tensions, remains calm. for decades, the people of south korea and seoul have lived with the threat of a massive artillery on their border, and perhaps even the prospect of a nuclear strike. the focus is shifting to guam, the obscure island stuck in the middle of the pacific. what's interesting here in seoul, is those people who live every day with the prospect of military confrontation, and they remain fairly calm. it's a normal wednesday, people are heading home because it's just gone past 5pm. they are a good barometer of how serious the rhetoric is. we've heard from the chief of the defence staff

saying they are prepared for swift action as usual and reminding everyone, particularly the north korean ‘s, of the close relationship south korea has with the united states. if you couple that with stronger words from the us defence secretary mattis, saying north korea would be grossly overmatched, then the signal is very much warning kim jong—un then, despite the rhetoric coming from both sides, that is a military confrontation came, then to repeat the words of defence secretary mattis it could be the end of the regime in pyongyang. the number of people waiting for routine surgery in june the number of people waiting for routine surgery injune was the highest since december 2000 and seven. the figures tell us that 3.83 million patients were on lists for operations. 90.3% were seen within 18 weeks, that is below the target

of 92%. there was an increase in the year—on—year of more than 21% in the numbers of people waiting longer than 18 weeks. that went up to 373,000. a police chief has said paying a child rapist £10,000 is pa rt paying a child rapist £10,000 is part ofan paying a child rapist £10,000 is part of an investigation into a grooming gang was the right thing. steve ashman said the information provided by the man led to the conviction of 17 men and a woman for abusing girls in newcastle. charities have criticised the force for paying the criminal. some prisoners should be able to use video calling technology such as skype to stay in touch with theirfamilies and cut reoffending rates, the government has been advised. the review, by lord farmer, suggests so—called "virtual visits" should be made available for inmates whose relatives cannot attend jail because of illness, distance or other factors. research indicates a prisoner who receives visits from a relative, is 39% less likely to re—offend than an inmate who had not had such contact.

school children in some of the most deprived parts of wales are getting free school meals during the summer holidays, paid for by the welsh government. half a million pounds of its education budget is going into these lunch clubs. they include all—day activities. up to three million children across the uk risk going hungry in the holidays because poor families can't afford to pay the driver of a double—decker bus has been taken to hospital after it crashed into a shop on a busy london high street. police were called early this morning to reports of a bus hitting a kitchen shop near clapham junction train station in south—west london. a route 77 double—decker bus was involved in the incident. paramedics treated six passengers at the scene. two people are still trapped on the upper deck. the fire brigade have now freed those two people. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10:30am. this photograph of the ex—editor of

vogue. she edited vogue for 25 years and put this photograph on her instagram page on holiday. i was asking if a picture of a normal woman like that, someone in her position, does it inspire youth? a number of people have said what a refreshingly honest picture. others have said total hypocrisy because she was the head of a fashion bible that would never dream of putting a woman that was slightly wobbly on their front cover. another view says, good on you, i really want to see my share of positive imagery that i can relate to. i want to see positive, fat and olderfemale that i can relate to. i want to see positive, fat and older female and male images. it's sad that vogue and their like don't lead the way. i realised many years ago we don't have much in common so i don't buy their product! thank you. do get in touch with us

throughout the morning — use the hashtag #victorialive. if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. let's get the latest from the world athletics championships — its day seven, and jessica is at the london stadium for us. jessica will there be a fairytale ending for isaac makwala's championships? it's been one of the major talking points at the world athletics championships. this time yesterday isaac makwala was in quarantine thinking his world championships we re thinking his world championships were over. tonight, he'll be competing for a gold medal in the 200 metres. it was on this very track when makwala lined up on the 200 metre line for this remarkable solo time trial that the iaaf granted him. it wasjust him against the clock. none of his rivals around him to spare him on, just him, the clock and the crowd. it was remarkable, the something you rarely see in world athletics championships. makwala was one of a

group of athletes affected by the stomach bug going around at these championships. he was prevented from competing. he was refused to race on medical grounds. he went through the solo time trial, required a certain qualifying time. he got the qualifying time. he got the qualifying time. he got the qualifying time which meant he went into the semifinals. he finished that semifinal in second place which means tonight he will race for gold in front of all the fans who have really warmed to him in the past few days. i wish to thank the iaaf for giving me another chance and the crowd is so amazing. they didn't need to believe, the crowd being british, i just want to thank this crowd, so amazing! i loved the press ups at the end! just in case we hadn't noticed from

the way he ran that, that message that i'm fine, i do not have norovirus, and the crowd were fantastic! we saw mo farah back on the track last night and in impressive form. what is there to look forward to today for british fans? we weren't sure about mo farah and how much that 10,000 had taken out of him. he seemed to do ok, he was relatively comfortable in the 5000. he did enough to get through but also to look forward to for the british fans will be katarina johnson—thompson in the highjump. it's one of her strongest events. she didn't do as well as you might have done in the heptathlon in that event. i spoke to denise lewis earlier, the olympic heptathlon champion from sydney 2000. she said johnson thompson should fare better despite her disappointment in the heptathlon. she's a really good high

jumper, she holds the british record. i think she had a blip. maybe she overbought it in the heptathlon. she has been adjusting her runway. i think she will be fine tonight. there is a good chance they might both qualify, fingers crossed. she went be the only brit in action, we've got eilidh doyle in the final of the 400 meter hurdles and nathaniel mitchell blake. hopefully we might have a few medals to cheer about tonight? family relationships are key to stopping prisoners reoffending and vital to reforming a prison system which, as we have reported on this programme, has seen a surge in levels of violence and self—harm. according to a government review out today, research has shown prisoners who receive visits from a family member are 39% less likely to offend again. the team behind the research took in over 1,000 submissions from men in prison, their families,

voluntary organisations, academics and members of staff in the sector, and recommendations include inmates being able to use skype or facetime on ipads to talk to their relatives at home. let's talk now to cody lachey, who was released from prison in february, 2017. he has been in prison three times in the last three years. josette baldacchino, who regularly visited her ex—partner in prison with her daughter and grandchildren. she now volunteers for partner of prisoners and speaks to other prison families on the organisation's helpline. jacob tas, chief executive of nacro, a socialjustice charity which works with offenders and ex—offenders. they help them to settle back into society and rebuild relationships, or maintain them, and have submitted comments to this review. welcome. cody, you are released in february, you've been inside three times in the last three years for

witness intimidation and assault on a police officer, then for an assault on someone else. your man came to visit you. you had that contact, you saw the effect on her and you still reoffended, tell us why. to be honest, my criminality was embedded within me. i made very bad decisions going forward. it was only on my third and final stretch where i saw the effect it was having on my mum psychologically and emotionally, not to mention financially. that stopped my criminality. i am financially. that stopped my criminality. iam reformed now financially. that stopped my criminality. i am reformed now and i campaignfor criminality. i am reformed now and i campaign for prison reform across the board. her continuing visits in those three occasions when you were inside, in the end, they have helped you make a decision that you aren't going to reoffend again. yes, i did think it was down to the visits, i think it was down to the visits, i think it was down to the visits, i think it was down to the effect it was having on my mum and i grew a conscience overnight. i came out of

prison and that was it. it's definitely different this time? absolutely. i'm staying away from crime, i've got a new circle of friends, i'm a changed person. mike rhinestone define the other person and i've used my experiences to campaignfor and i've used my experiences to campaign for prison reform across—the—board campaign for prison reform across—the—boa rd —— campaign for prison reform across—the—board —— my crime doesn't define me as a person. why was it important to keep close contact with your partner when he was in prison? i found it was important to keep contact because it gave him something to look forward to. it gave him something to look forward to to coming home and it made an impact on our family. i think when he saw that he understood what he did was wrong. i do agree with the fa ct did was wrong. i do agree with the fact that they should have some kind of video to be able to speak to them. often people get sent to a

jail that is hundreds of miles from home. the idea you could go and visit regularly is a nonstarter. it's really hard for families as they go far. sometimes even if they are nearby, it's hard to go on visits. 0r are nearby, it's hard to go on visits. or if they've got elderly parents. it was hard, really hard. what's it like going to visit someone you love in prison and taking your daughter and grandchild with you? it's not the best experience. not when you're going to be searched or when you're going to be searched or when you're going to be treated along the same lines as the offender. what do you mean? you feel as though you're being treated as though you what the criminal. which is extremely hard and not something you should be put through. that's where the support comes in from organisations like partners of

prisoners. what do you think about these figures that somebody would be 39% less likely to offend if contact is maintained? you just less likely to offend if contact is maintained ? you just pulled less likely to offend if contact is maintained? you just pulled a face, josette! well, personally, i would have said 50%. the contact with families, it is very important, and iam not families, it is very important, and i am not saying that family support is going to stop all offenders reoffending, because it doesn't. you are going to get half that are going to look at the family support and they are going to stop, and another half will just continue they are going to stop, and another half willjust continue to do it, and it's not what you are a way of life for them. led me bring in nacro, the socialjustice charity.

what about this recommendation that inmates should be able to talk to inmates should be able to talk to inmates on skype on an ipad, for example, so relatives can call into prison to talk to their loved ones? i think it is a very positive development. the whole report, we strongly support the report from lord farmer, and one of the recommendations is that the preferred is physical meeting, face—to—face, and having that relationship continue on that basis. but as we already know, lots of prisoners are far away, quite difficult to access, and exactly what we heard before, the treatment of children and family members is usually similar to the end being treated in prison, which is, of course, not right at all. that could change tomorrow, couldn't it? course, not right at all. that could change tomorrow, couldn't mm should, and that is another recommendation, but back to the facetime, skype, regular contact, how was your day at school for a

child, you know, obviously the day in prison is not so interesting to talk about most likely, but the relationship with the family members, all with parents or anybody, to know what is going on, that there is a life outside of prison, and the stronger the relationship is, the more ties they have that are worth continuing, the more likely that it is that they don't want to go back to prison. what do you say to people watching who will say, well, i don't have an ipad, why should an inmate? this is not about issuing ipad is as a toy, it will be purely as an instrument to be able to communicate with, so like a phone. today you can call, for example, it is very different as you can see in the report, different experiences, it is why hard to make phone calls, they are costly for offenders, it is hard for them to enough money to make phone calls. for those determined to keep

relationships going, we're not making it easy to do so. so this type of technology will make it easy, as it is accessible to many of us, through smartphones or... cody, you have been inside three times, you have been inside three times, you know what it is like to lose your liberty, you think this idea of video calls might lead critics to say this is softening the prison regime and it is meant to be a place of punishment? the simple fact is, victoria, we have seen in the last week that assault on prisons are at a record high, up 20% on last year. seu a record high, up 20% on last year. self harm, 40,414 incidents in the last 12 months and stuff. the prison system as a powder keg right now. i cannot stress enough how important family ties are. children not seeing their dads because financial restraints are in place, people having to travel hundreds of miles to visit, the cost of train fares, the price of food on the visits,

accommodation, things like that, it all plays a part. so it is pivotal. if you put this in system, this skype, i believe it will reduce violent incidents in one way or another, and self harm, which can only be a good thing, and it will reduce incidents which will reflect well on the ministry ofjustice. and if reoffending is reduced as a result of introducing skype or whatever, then that will save a lot more money to taxpayers who might be criticising the up the idea of an ipad inajail. criticising the up the idea of an ipad in a jail. very much so, criticising the up the idea of an ipad in ajail. very much so, and it will help people not commit further crime, thereby generating further victims, but it is important, because we have major issues in our prison system at the moment — we need to stop writing reports and start taking action to improve the circumstances, and therefore, when we have these people captured in our prison, have a relentless focus on rehabilitation, which means giving them a roof to sleep under, making

sure that they have a job somehow, and these family ties are critically important, to make our society safer, to reduce the number of people in prison, and therefore have more money available to make that all happen, that is very strongly our view at nacro. that big here, reoffending gusts £15 billion a year, that is what reoffending gusts. the justice minister, year, that is what reoffending gusts. thejustice minister, david lidington says we are committed to reforming prisons in places of safety a nd reforming prisons in places of safety and reform, and families can play a signature control in supporting an offender. obviously, they would point out they are spending money on an extra 2500 prison officers. we will see what the government do with this report, they set it up, that doesn't mean there will follow the recommendations. we hope so. thank you very much, all of you. thank you very much for coming on the programme, cody, josette. still to

come, with some schools in wales offering free meals during the summer holidays, should more be done in other parts of the uk to tackle the growing problem of holiday hunger? the story of a 20—year—old model being abducted whilst out on a job in milan this week has made global news. chloe ayling was allegedly kidnapped and told she would be sold as a sex slave. she was eventually released. peter adediran is a solicitor who specialises in the modelling industry and says the problem of sex trafficking isn'tjust in the glamour modelling world — "it's rife" within the fashion industry. good morning. what is your evidence for saying that? well, there is no... it is with the these sort of thing you see when you work in the

industry. and i have known lots of models, my wife was a former fashion model. when you say sex trafficking... that is quite a wide ambit in terms... but what i have seen is a rather relaxed attitude by some agencies. to what? to girls who come from abroad, from all over the world, mostly russia, most of the fashion models come from russia. they come very young, sometimes as young as 14, sometimes older, 17, 16, but still 16, young as 14, sometimes older, 17, 16, but still16, 17 young as 14, sometimes older, 17, 16, but still 16, 17 is not that old. and whilst they don't actually

get introduced to promoters, club promoters, the agencies will have parties at nightclubs, where there will be alcohol, the girls obviously won't be old enough to drink, and that environment creates opportunities for predators.” that environment creates opportunities for predators. i can see that, but are you saying that young teenagers, teenagers and young adults, beautiful women young teenagers, teenagers and young adults, beautifulwomen from young teenagers, teenagers and young adults, beautiful women from all over the world, are being carpeted in this country. no. right. i'm not saying that. but what i'm saying is... well, they are, obviously, because there is evidence for that with police reports and, you know, what have you. but specific to the fashion industry. specific to the fashion industry. specific to the fashion industry, there is, you know, what i'm saying is the environment is created where there is more possibility of that

happening, and more could be done by the agencies to keep these girls safer. and of course anyone can set up safer. and of course anyone can set up as an agent, anyone safer. and of course anyone can set up as an agent, anyone can safer. and of course anyone can set up as an agent, anyone can set up as if the dog about. yougov yeah. —— can set up as a photographer. yeah. would more regulation help? there is regulation at the moment, there is a code of employment agencies, and the employment business regulation is 2003, and what that seeks to do is it seeks to put some kind of duty on agencies, that is to save modelling agencies, that is to save modelling agencies, to protect models. so for example they have got to check you ever the hirers are, that they do not have an immoral reputation or

something else, insolvent, but still releva nt something else, insolvent, but still relevant in another respect. is that code working? obviously, not really, because the agencies themselves are rather like that in a way they treat models. i'm sure you heard about the incident in paris last fashion week, where a number of models were locked ina room where a number of models were locked in a room for hours whilst everybody went for lunch. so there could be a lot more done to protect these girls, to give them more confidence. you know, i have heard of situations where girls have gone to foreign countries and they have lost their money, you know, lost their wallets, and the agencies won't help them out, or they find it very, very difficult to do so. and some of the ways these agreements are framed, the way in practice the girls are

more or less trapped, because they have got no money of their own, they are 15, ina have got no money of their own, they are 15, in a foreign country, a lot of them come from rural areas, this is all new to them, because usually modelling takes place in very big cities, you know, well—known, like paris, london, new york, and they, you know, they are given pocket money, which they deduct from whatever they earn. so these girls, they say that they are work seekers who can come in and out of the contract as they like, but in practice they are sort of trapped there, so in a way the agencies, they can do, they do whatever the agencies tell and to do. if they say, go to this nightclub, there is a party, they go there. if someone says, i know you're agencies or

whatever, the next thing you know, i am not saying this happens all the time, but the next thing you know, a promoter who knows some very rich men, the girls become prostitutes. thank you very much, thank you, peter. amazon saw a 50% drop in the amount of uk corporation tax it paid last year — despite a 54% increase in turnover. amazon uk services received a bill of £7.4 million in 2016, compared to almost £16 million the previous year. the firm says it meets its tax obligations. let's talk to our business editor, simonjack, hello, let's talk to our business editor, simon jack, hello, hello, let's talk to our business editor, simonjack, hello, hello, hello. corporation tax is what you pay on profits, which may be the keys here. that is exactly right, there are a lot of raised eyebrows because their turn—up went up 50%, the global company made billions and billions,

but talking about amazon uk services, the bit of the company where people process your orders and send them to your house, picking stuff out, putting it in boxes. their turnover went up 50%, but the tax bill came down to 7 million. you are quite right that although their turnover went up, their profits went down, partly because of the way they pay their staff. they have 24,000 staff in the uk, about 60,000 working in the centres. when you arrive as a permanent staff member, you get £1000 worth of shares, there you get £1000 worth of shares, there you go. over time, you get £1000 worth of shares, there you go. overtime, if you get £1000 worth of shares, there you go. over time, if the share price goes up, the value of those shares goes up price goes up, the value of those shares goes up as price goes up, the value of those shares goes up as well. you can't catch them in on day one, but when you do, if they have gone up a lot in value, the company as to account and say, this is the value of the stuff we gave to our staff members. for the last couple of years, the amazon share price has rocketed, so some of those awards are worth much

more, so when the company does its accounts, it paid this, which is now with that, so the expenses have gone up, so their profits go down. so good for amazon, it doesn't cost them any cash, good for the employees, because they get a windfall, which they mostly do not have to pay tax on, because while allowed to receive £3600 per year from your employer without paying tax, so good for the employee, good for the company, bad for hmrc, because they do not see any of this money. so the profits of amazon uk services were about 24 million, they paid just over 7 million in tax, and thatis paid just over 7 million in tax, and that is legit? and if the government have a problem, they need to put up rates ? have a problem, they need to put up rates? exactly right, and the more the share price goes up, the less tax hmrc gets, and it is an unusual way for a company, for jobs tax hmrc gets, and it is an unusual way for a company, forjobs like this, for people to be paid. very

common in silicon valley, and it is an approach that has this unusual effect. still to come. it emerged that during the court process that led to 18 convictions of child abuse in newcastle, police paid a convicted child rapist £10,000 as an informant. the former editor of vogue magazine alexandra shulman posted this selfie on her instagram page. some say it is refreshingly honest and normal because that's what we look like in our bikinis, let's be honest. others say it's hypocrisy because after yea rs of say it's hypocrisy because after years of heading that magazine packed with thin, tanned women, should never put an image like that on the cover of vogue. as a woman, does that image inspire you? with the news, here's matthew in the bbc newsroom. north korea says its plan to fire four missiles near the us territory of guam will soon be ready,

as a war of words with washington intensifies. state media said rockets would pass overjapan and land in the sea about 17 miles from guam, if the plan is approved by kim jong—un. it denounced donald trump's warnings of "fire and fury" and said the us leader was "bereft of reason". earlier, a little boy who lives on guam begged for calm. please stop, there are families that live here on guam. my grandma just had knee surgery and she's in the hospital. please stop. the number of people waiting for routine surgery in england injune was the highest in almost ten years. 3.83 million patients were on lists for operations. other key nhs targets were also missed — including urgent referrals for cancer care. a police chief has said paying a

child rapist £10,000 as part of an investigation into a grooming gang was the right thing. northumbria police's steve ashman said the information he provided led to the conviction of 17 men and a woman for abusing girls in newcastle. charities criticised the force for paying the criminal. some prisoners should be able to use video calling technology such as skype to stay in touch with their families — to help cut reoffending, the government's been told. a review suggests so—called "virtual visits" should be made available for inmates whose relatives cannot attend jail. a prisoner who receives visits from a relative, is around 40 % less likely to re—offend. the driver of a double—decker bus has been taken to hospital after it crashed into a shop on a busy london high street. police were called this morning after a bus hit a shop near clapham junction in south—west london. it was a route 77

double—decker bus. paramedics treated six passengers at the scene, the fire brigade freed two people trapped on the upper deck. looks pretty nasty. that's a summary of the latest news, join me for bbc newsroom live at 11 o'clock. here's some sport now with hugh ferris. jessis jess is that the london stadium again. good morning. isaac makwala could complete one of the more extraordinary stories at the world athletics championships with a medal later. after being banned from competing in london because of the norovirus outbreak. the botswana sprinter was then given a reprieve via this time trial which he used to get through to the semis of the 200 metres, and then later on he made the final, which is tonight. mo farah‘s progress to the 5000 metres final was secured, despite him feeling "a little beaten up". he hurt his knee and leg in winning 10k gold but insists he'll be ok for his last major track race on saturday. later katarina johnson—thompson will attempt to qualify

for the high jump final. she'll have to improve on her efforts in the heptathlon high jump to make it through though. rory mcilory says he has nothing to prove ahead of the us pga championship which starts this evening in north carolina. he's among a top—class field, trying to stop the americanjordan spieth becoming the youngest player to complete a career grand slam. newcastle was yesterday added to the list of towns and cities where girls have suffered from the predations of child grooming gangs. 17 men of asian heritage and one white woman were convicted yesterday for their part in a "cynical organisation" which groomed vulnerable young girls and women into sex. that list of towns now includes rochdale, derby, liverpool, peterborough, all have seen multiple convictions of predominantly pakistani men for child sexual exploitation. so do we need to be looking

further into the reasons why this is happening? sarah champion, the shadow secretary for women and equalities, is calling for research into this issue. she joins us now from sheffield to explain. what is it that we need to understand more? ijust can't believe that we are here doing the same story in a different town. this is going to keep going on and on and on until we grasp the nettle. what we need to look at is why this specific crime is a caring. this specific crime is a caring. this specific crime is organised gangs of dominantly pakistani british men going out and looking for vulnerable children, predominantly girls, grooming, exploiting, trafficking, abusing them across the country. what frustrates me is that we are not going to the root of the problem. we aren't protecting our children properly so they understand

about this crime. we also now have probably hundreds of these perpetrators in jail, so probably hundreds of these perpetrators injail, so let's probably hundreds of these perpetrators in jail, so let's start doing some research. the government needs to paid to do research and see what are the commonalities. it's not rocket science. this is a specific group of men doing this crime so let's understand why. what are the drivers? what can we do to prevent it in the future? i don't want to be sitting here in another six months with another town. it's getting too much, victoria. i hear your words for money to be put into research but what do you believe could be at the root of the problem? obviously it isa the root of the problem? obviously it is a complex issue but what kind of things are you thinking could be at the root? this is me guessing because i don't know, i'm obviously not pakistani but i know particularly the pakistani women i talked to. there does seem to be that women and girls are not as respected as much as boys are respected. there seems to be, i

don't know if there is a manual on the inter—net but there seems to be a tight pattern of how the grooming process happens. this is obviously being shared amongst members within the pakistani community. the girls that i've worked with, not only in rob but other towns are being trafficked to the different towns where we are seeing this pattern happening. there have —— we have to get to the root of it and address it. i'm sorry it's quite unpalatable for some people. the reason i'm a bit fragile is i was up all night worrying. i know that islamophobia is getting more and more in this country. i know there will be a backlash against the pakistani community with me saying this. i also know that we have to do something, because this is a minority of people. unless we stop them and deal with them as abusers,

deal with them as paedophiles, the whole community is getting smeared by this. we have to be grown up and deal with it. by this. we have to be grown up and dealwith it. you by this. we have to be grown up and deal with it. you say it may be unpalatable to some but unpalatable to everybody, surely we can agree on that, is young girls being targeted, groomed and raped aged 12, for goodness' sake. you would think so, but unfortunately when you look at the two enquiries into the failings in the city of robbie renwick, what we see is not the front line staff but middle management staff saying to front—line workers take out the word asian when identifying people —— the city of rotherham. front line staff have been told they are racist for saying this. they aren't being racist. this is an identifiable characteristics. they all belonged to one motorbike gang we would be dealing with that accordingly. we

have to deal with this. thank you. sarah champion, shadows is a gradual state for women and equality is. coming up. alexandra shulman has been praised for that selfie, is she an inspiration or a hypocrite? should never put that on the front of herformer magazine, should never put that on the front of her former magazine, would she? —— she would never put that on the front of herformer —— she would never put that on the front of her former magazine. school children in some of the most deprived parts of wales are getting free school meals these summer holidays paid for by the welsh government. £500,000 has been allocated which still means only a small number of schools are covered. a report earlier this year said that up to three million children across the uk risked going hungry in the holidays. we played you catrin nye's full report earlier — here's a short extract before we have conversation about this. can you tell me what your favourite foods are? i love chicken nuggets with beans! chicken nuggets with beans? school holidays equals hungry kids. what did you have for lunch yesterday?

bolognese! and how many bowls did you have? three bowls?! this is millbank primary in cardiff. it's one of 39 schools in the most deprived parts of wales providing breakfast, lunch and activities in the school holidays. it's funded by the welsh government's education department, a budget controlled in cardiff rather than westminster. do you guys have to go to school all year round ? are you not fed up? no. you don't mind coming in the summer? no. my mum think it's good, because she works, has a full—time job, and normally i sit home with my nan, but because i'm in here, it makes a big difference. if the parents don't have enough money, they can put us into school and then we get to have food. i think every parent that brings a child in here is grateful for it.

lots of different reasons — childcare, food, entertainment. at this time so many people are struggling, like me. i'm not working at the moment. having to make sure your kids get fed, notjust feeding them with anything but giving them the right food. they're interacting with other children, playing, having a nice meal. it's not a full school day. they don't look at it as they're in school, they look at it as fun. you guys have eaten more of your vegetables than me. i'll be in trouble! a report by a cross—party group of mps warned that three million children across the uk risk going hungry in school holidays. a third of the children who go to this school have free school meals, but you don't need to be eligible to get the free food in the holidays. if you think that it's been decided that children need free school meals because of the amount of income the family has got, its not surprising during the long summer holidays, when suddenly those things

are not there, families are struggling. this is still only in a tiny proportion of the schools in wales and at the moment the education departments in england and scotland are not allocating specific funding to lunch clubs. charities and local authorities are able to set them up, but there are calls for more central government money. let's talk now to daphine aikens, she holds breakfast and lunch clubs for kids over the summer in london. lindsay graham is talking to us from cardiff, where she's visiting schools there and comparing how free school meals are being effective. and ruth smeeth, on the parliamentary committee on hunger. welcome. how much of a demand i use

seeing in london? we see a big increase every year in the summer holidays, and the christmas holidays. we see many more children in the food bank and attending our holiday clubs. it's a club which provides loads of activities and a meal at lunchtime. yes. yesterday we had about 40 children in our w 12 branch and another 30 in our full branch. about 70 people a day. that's going up? the amount of people needing food holiday clubs is increasing. what is your expertise in this area? i've m 25123524325 7.1 .. . mm a??? 1,3, 21, at faunasgraececxeyefiwws .. .. and effff'fe if!?f! lffffis—fjfifif! if! 5.31.55? effff'fe §!f!z'f! iftfiis—fjfifif! if! 5.31.55? effff'fe 5f!z'f! lfffifi§5fii5fi if! fieeiifi5§ in this country. effff'fe 5!f!z'f! ifffifi§5fi5fi if! fieeiifi5§ in this country. i wrote a

provision in this country. i wrote a report about the days of the year where children don't access free school meals. it's notjust the where children don't access free school meals. it's not just the free school meals. it's not just the free school meals, it's all the other services that children need to access as well through education, health and social services. how is it working in parts of wales?” think this is gold standard stuff. i'm going to see one of the schools and see it working. the schools are public venues and they are closed for 13 weeks of the year. they are a good place to do a good service like this and all credit to the welsh government for what they've done here. ruth smeeth, thank you for talking to us. some people are watching you who will be thinking there is no way in 2017 that parents cannot afford to feed their kids, if potentially they budget properly. what do you say to that?” potentially they budget properly. what do you say to that? i think we've got to be really aware of what we've got to be really aware of what we are talking about. if your child qualifies for free school meals

during the summer holidays you have to pay for a minimum of five extra meals per day but probably more likely ten if they qualify for free brea kfast likely ten if they qualify for free breakfast as well. that's ten extra meals per child per week. when you add onto that the fact all research is saying one third of parents are going without food at some point during the school holidays in order to feed their children, this isn't just a matter of budgeting, this is about how we feed our children. we are one of the richest countries in the world what's happening in the country is heartbreaking. what kernel stories do you hear from pa rents what kernel stories do you hear from parents when they dropped their children off in the summer holidays? a lot of stories about people on low incomes, so families where parents are working, but when it comes to the school holidays, they are not getting free school meals, whether breakfast and lunch orjust to lunch, and it is a huge increase on family budgets. i had a lovely mum

withered two little boys, and she is a victim of domestic violence who had to leave home in the middle of the night, arrived at a hostel in london, she doesn't have any... she can't work, she hasjust london, she doesn't have any... she can't work, she has just arrived, trying to get the kids settled into new accommodation, she doesn't have any benefits. and the holiday club isa any benefits. and the holiday club is a godsend for her. but you are saying there are children there with pa rents, saying there are children there with parents, two parents who both work, and they still need free school meals during the holidays. absolutely, it is a chronic issue, because they are not earning enough, and in the holidays, the extra cost of that food can be £30 per week per child according to the all—party report on anger. and that is a lot of money for anybody, let alone somebody on a low income. so who pays for the meals when they come to your club? we appeal for funding, so

the innocent project ara funded some trussell trust foodbanks, and we have also had donations. lindsey, what you see in wales, which you have described as the gold standard, you think it should be funded by british taxpayers? i think from the report, there were six specific recommendations, and i wasjust sitting writing the number of programmes, big scale programmes that i have seen across the uk, and there are about 14. but there are hundreds of these projects across the country, and there is a mixture offunding, and the country, and there is a mixture of funding, and this report suggested that it isn't the government's duty alone. the commercial world and the third sector and the statutory sector are picking it up. in wales here, it is joint funding through the welsh government. we all have a duty to

ensure that our children are well cared for, we can't ask them to be the global citizens, politicians, doctors and nurses of the future u nless we doctors and nurses of the future unless we start looking after them. it isa unless we start looking after them. it is a child poverty issue as well. we have got families who are homeless, zero—hours contracts, u pstrea m homeless, zero—hours contracts, upstream measures are homeless, zero—hours contracts, upstream measures are needed to tackle child poverty, as well as the downstrea m tackle child poverty, as well as the downstream measures. we cannot have hungry children in this country, it isa hungry children in this country, it is a national disgrace. a couple of m essa g es is a national disgrace. a couple of messages from sue, whilst i have sympathy for anyone who struggles to be their children, 30 years ago we had no help from government. lara says, it is a great idea, but surely it should not need to be done in one of the richest countries in the world in 2017. i agree that it definitely shouldn't need to be done, and what i am really asking for from government is support for those community groups, which does include funding, who are providing this. in my own constituency this summer, we have had a series of pilots happening, demand has

exceeded expectations. we have had one of the play centres, we were expecting 25 kids a day, we are averaging 90. we have got other opportunities happening across my constituency, where dozens of children, and this is the first year we have been able to put together an initiative to fund it, it is being funded locally, as well as through the national lottery and others. i wa nt the national lottery and others. i want national funding plus a level of safeguards so that people can do it properly, there is support for community groups trying to do this. but i couldn't agree more, it is a disgrace and simply shouldn't be happening in the 215t century. disgrace and simply shouldn't be happening in the 21st century. act for coming on the programme. —— thanks. the number of people waiting for routine nhs surgery in england injune was for routine nhs surgery in england in june was the for routine nhs surgery in england injune was the highest in ten yea rs, injune was the highest in ten years, just over 90% of patients on waiting lists were seen within 18 weeks, below the target of 92%. our health editor, hugh pym, is here.

the highest for quite a long time, why? well, victoria, part of this is because the nhs is doing more operations every year, so if it is doing more procedures, you will get more people waiting. but that is not the whole explanation. many doctors, surgeons and others are saying it reflects the mounting pressure on the nhs, more people having to wait for routine surgery, and that figure of 3.83 million people waiting in england was the highest since december 2000 and seven. within that, the total waiting more than 18 weeks... which is supposed to be the target. it should be 9296 who start their treatment within 18 weeks. but 373,000 were waiting longer than that, up 21% year—on—year from that target which was missed. people are saying something has to give, and this is what is giving, the nhs is

under pressure on all sides, it is having to put more money into a&e, and it has missed that target again, it is and pressure to spend in all areas, and a simon stevens, the head of nhs england, gave the nod to hospitals back in march — if something has to give, it probably has to be waiting lists. that might sound fine in theory, if you have to deal with mil urgent cases, but people waiting a long time for hip and knee surgery, they will be very frustrated. so is that what routine surgeries, hip and knee is, what kind of stuff are we talking about? if you are waiting for a new hip, it must be blooming painful. exactly, it could even be routine surgery of any description that is not urgent, ora any description that is not urgent, or a procedure. it is not an emergency. so you have to wait, and you could be in a lot of pain, and for hip and knee surgery, there are parts of the nhs which are

restricting the criteria, so you have to be in more pain before you qualify for it, and then if you aren't third, you have to wait more than 18 weeks in some cases. —— and thenif than 18 weeks in some cases. —— and then if you are referred. nhs england chiefs would say, we have been told by the government that it is a&e which is very important, because people are waiting more than four hours, and that something has to, if you like, take up the slack. but nhs england say they want to get back on target. waiting lists was a huge issue back in the late 1980s when new labour came in, they pledged to bring down waiting times, and it is becoming an issue again. and where are we with money going into the nhs in england and wales? some will say, if you put more money m, some will say, if you put more money in, it will help with bringing waiting times down again. well, the money in england is going up a lot less rapidly than it did last year, and for next year as well. so still

getting more? and not keeping up with demand. if it carries on rising at 4% per year, more patients needing more treatments for understandable reasons, but the budgets are going up at only about 196. budgets are going up at only about 1%. scotland and ireland have devolved, they're spending has not gone up devolved, they're spending has not gone up as devolved, they're spending has not gone up as rapidly as in england, so they are facing the same problems with waiting list as well. their waiting lists are getting longer, so it isa waiting lists are getting longer, so it is a problem throughout the nhs in the uk, this isjust the it is a problem throughout the nhs in the uk, this is just the latest illustration of it. thank you, hugh. not the bikini shot you'd expect from a woman who's spent decades overseeing the promotion of perfect, often airbrushed, images of super skinny models. this is alexandra shulman, recently retired editor of vogue, a woman of a certain age — that's 59 — and now a selfie taker gone viral, mosquito bites and wobbly bits and all. a lot of women replying to her feet

have said it is refreshing you have posted this picture, a few women have said this is hypocritical, because you oversaw a fashion bible where you have a picture like that on that front. let's speak now to the stylist and image consultant ceril campbell. she's styled many celebrities including the likes of zara phillips, darcey bussell and serena williams. good morning. what do you think of the selfie from alexandra shulman? well, funnelling of, i posted one of myself paddle boarding on instagram, because i am older than alex. —— funnily enough. i think we can all do what we want to do, we shouldn't have to airbrush, we should be confident in our bodies, and my clients, not celebrities, but real women, everything i do is to help women, everything i do is to help women look in the mirror and appreciate all their good bits and

look at the whole of themselves, not just focus on the bad bits. because we all have something that is really good about ourselves, and real bodies, we are not on love island, we are not perfect, we don't need to be airbrushed, and i also go into schools and teach teenagers annie power of social media and how it affects negative body images. —— about the power of social media. no—one i have ever dressed is perfect, however famous they are. so refreshing that alexandra shulman has done this, but what about the charge of hypocrisy? she has written about the pressure on women, she has acknowledged it, but yet she has presided over vogue for 25 years, where already beautiful and thin women are airbrushed to within an inch of their life in order to appear on the cover. this is true, but i suppose that anyone in a

high—profile position, you have to be careful what you put out on social media, because everything on social media, because everything on social media, because everything on social media is at there, is at there, it is difficult to get rid of. if you are the head of vogue, you wouldn't post a bikini picture of yourself because it is not pertinent, it doesn't make you look authoritative anymore, does it, really? and to be honest, i think you have to... if you're going to tell other people what to do, especially if you are in a position as vogue, you have to give yourself some sort of... it is the equivalent of not... you need to dress for the job, you are the face of the brand, so putting yourself up in a bikini is not the face of the brand.” so putting yourself up in a bikini is not the face of the brand. i and not suggesting it would have been wise for her to do that when she was the editor, but such a position of influence, she could have banned airbrushing in her own magazine if she had wanted to. she was never the

skinny editor, out of all the editors and people sitting on the front row... i know, but she was the editor of the magazine, she could have done what you wanted, but whatever she wanted on the cover, but a size 16 woman on the cover of british vogue, what a statement that would have made! it would have, but you are very beholden... when you are in the magazine world, which i am not, you are very beholden to your advertisers, which is very sad, because they keep the magazine alive, and obviously with some money to be able to publish it. so often you can only do what the advertisers allow you to do. i remember years ago i used to be involved in a magazine which was for older women, and none of the advertisers would advertise in it because they felt nobody over the age of 35 was going to be wanting to buy that magazine or buy a magazine. which is really sad. thank you, ceril campbell. i do

apologise for pronouncing your name that way! i appreciate your time. and thanks for your time today, bbc newsroom live is coming up next, have a good day. hello there. good morning. after yesterday's heavy rain across central and eastern parts of england, things much improved, much quieter today for many of us. one or two showers quieter today for many of us. one or two 5 howe rs a cross quieter today for many of us. one or two showers across the far south—east, associated with the weather fronts that brought rain yesterday, but for many this ridge of high pressure moving in, making things pretty settled, pretty dry, pretty sunny across most parts, temperatures up to 17—21d. we could see a bit more in the way of cloud, especially as we go through tonight will stop the breeze tends to pick

up will stop the breeze tends to pick upa will stop the breeze tends to pick up a little bit into friday. but rain will spread gradually south and eastwards, breaking up towards eastern parts, but i suspect for east anglia and the south—east, staying dry well into the afternoon, 17-21. after staying dry well into the afternoon, 17—21. after the rain on friday, things are improving for the weekend. for most of us, drier, brighter weather with sunny spells. temperature is about average for august, still feeling quite pleasant in the sunshine and light winds. bye— bye. this is bbc news and these are the top stories developing at 11. police defend paying a child rapist for information as part of an investigation into a grooming gang as "the right thing to do". no, we don't support

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