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start of a resurgence of summer? or have more in the next hour. hello, and philippa thomas, this is outside source. in sierra leone at least 400 people have died in mudslides and massive flooding. the president says urgent support is needed and there are fears that the number of dead could rise. trying to sort the helicopters and, more have been brought in, this is a disaster. it's absolutely unprecedented. also on the show more white has intrigued as reports circulated that one of the president's top advisers might be on his way out but it's not all bad news for the us president, kimjong and says he will hold fire on the north korea's proposal to shoot missiles on the us territory of guam and some give the trump administration credit. and some give the trump administration crediti and some give the trump administration credit. i think a lot of it has to do not only with the strong statements made by our president but also statements made by secretary rex to listen and james
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mattis. setting off into uncharted waters, we will talk to the team on board. and to get in touch at any time the hashtag is bbc os. welcome to outside source. in sierra leone, in the capital, freetown, at least 400 people have been killed by mudslides and massive flooding. the situation is so dire that a mass burial of victims is planned to free up burial of victims is planned to free up space in mortuary. this is part of sugarloaf mountain which collapsed following heavy rain early on monday. it involved summoning arms. the president says the country needs urgent support now. umaru
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fofa na is in needs urgent support now. umaru fofana is in freetown and sent this report. 0n the day after, the emergency services are still overstretched. inside the central mortuary of the main hospital, piles of bodies. they are lying on the floor in the open because there is no more space. almost 100 bodies we re no more space. almost 100 bodies were brought in on tuesday morning, bringing the total to nearly 400, some of them without limbs. the head of the mortuary says they are overstretched and that is not all as they were trying to sort the copters out, more have been brought in from different parts of the city. even the rescue effort is challenged, people are believed to still be alive underneath this soil but even if they are it will be a miracle to find them breathing. the government and developing partners have now set up and developing partners have now set upa and developing partners have now set up a response centre registering those left behind by the disaster, yet relief supplies are slow in coming. but the testimonies from those badly hit by this disaster are
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in no short supply. translation: i first saw the body of my sister and called on people to help me and we laid her on the floor. then i started hearing other people nearby crying. i have lost all of my family. monday's mudslide and flash floods have shaken this country. even for a country that has known a bloody civil war and a destabilising ebola outbreak, this is unbearable. umaru is one of those asking if this tragedy could have been prevented. this is from his latest facebook blog about how he felt having to report this. this quote caught my eye. yes, the floods and mudslides we re eye. yes, the floods and mudslides were caused by nature but they could have been avoided or at least mitigated. if we had the environment, the environment will fight back. earlier, the bbc spoke
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to ramatu jalloh, who is with save the children in freetown. she said more about the situation the rescu e rs we re more about the situation the rescuers were in. i think it's a great challenge, it up and totally beyond expectations and in terms of the gravity of this situation for freetown and sierra leone right now it was beyond our expectations. in terms of preparedness the government has put certain systems in place to deal with the situation but as i say it was beyond what we were expecting. we were expecting floods andi expecting. we were expecting floods and i think plans were in place to deal with floods and possibly the scenarios that would emerge from a flood situation but never a disaster as large as this. it is, i think, beyond what we ever sought when it comes to flooding. i think no one really expected a mudslide particularly in the area where it occurred. and just seeing the gravity of the site with a mudslide
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took place, it's an absolute shock. at the moment we are estimating thousands of families displaced, it is estimated at about 3000 families displaced, half of which are children, some are placed in community centres and schools and we hope the weather holds because some families at home to try to clean up the sledge and dream of stagnant water to make their homes have it all. a lot of these families have lost everything, so the situation is desperate —— to make their homes habitable. we are trying to respond to the emergency as soon as possible and of course the health secretary is looking at cholera preparedness and other sectors are looking at psychosocial and other support for families and children but right now, to be honest, we all in a really shocked situation, all trying to get
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on top this. the fallout over donald trump's response to violence during a far right rally at the weekend has continued and the blowtorch is now on this man, chief white house strategist, steve bannon. a number of media outlets in the us have reported mr bannon — the former editor of right—wing website breitbart — could be on his way out. donald trump is giving a press conference, let's go there now.|j brought it, i brought it, i brought it. as i said, and remember, the saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence. it has no place in america. and then i went on from there, now here's the thing, excuse me, take it nice and easy. here's the thing. when i make a statement
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like to be correct. i want the fa cts . like to be correct. i want the facts. this event just like to be correct. i want the facts. this eventjust happened. a lot of the events didn't even happen yet, as we were speaking. this event just happened. before i make a statement i need the facts. so i don't want to rush into a statement. so making the statement when i made it was excellent. in fact the young woman, who i here's a fantastic young woman and was on nbc, her mother wrote me and said, through, i guess twitter, social media, the nicest things. i very much appreciated that. i hear that she was fine, actually an incredible young woman. her mother on twitter thanked me for what i said. and honestly, if the press were not fake and if it was honest, the press would have said what i said was very nice. but unlike you... excuse me, unlike the media, before i make a statement like to know the facts.
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they don't. they don't. they don't. how about a couple of... mr trump, was that terrorism, that event? you offered to bring the country together, did you? you take a look, i've created over 1 together, did you? you take a look, i've created over1 millionjobs since i've become president. the country's booming, the stock market is setting records. we have the highest employment numbers we've ever had in the history of this country, we are doing wreck and business, we have the highest levels of enthusiasm. the head of all mart, a very nice guy, was making a political statement. —— the head of walmart. i want to make sure, when i make a statement, that the statement is correct. and there was no way, there was no way of making a correct
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statement that early. i had to see the facts, unlike a lot of reporters... i didn't know david duke was there. i wanted to see the fa cts . duke was there. i wanted to see the facts. and the facts as they started coming out, were very well stated. in fact everybody said, his statement was beautiful, if he would have made it sooner that would have been good. i could not have made its sooner been good. i could not have made its sooner because i didn't know all of the facts. frankly people still don't know all the facts. it is very important, excuse me, it was very important, excuse me, it was very important to me to get the facts out and correctly. because if i would have made the first statement and the first statement was made without knowing much other than what we were seeing. the second statement was made with knowledge, with great knowledge. there are still things people don't know. i want to make a statement with knowledge. i want to know the facts. two questions, was
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this terrorism and how are you feeling about your chief strategist? the driver of the car is a disgrace to himself, his family and his country. you can call it terrorism. you can call it murder. you can call it whatever you want. i would just call it as the fastest one to come up call it as the fastest one to come up with a good verdict, that is what i'd call it. because there is a question, is it murder, is it terrorism and then you get into legal semantics. the driver of the car isa legal semantics. the driver of the car is a murderer. and what he did was a horrible, horrible, inexcusable thing. tell us how you feel about your chief strategist, steve bannon? i never spoke to mr bannon about it. do you still have confidence in him. we'll see. i like steve bannon, he's a good friend. he came on board very late, i went
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through 17 governors and i won all the primaries. mr bannon came in much later than that. i like him, he isa much later than that. i like him, he is a good man. he is not a racist, i can tell you that. he is a good person. he gets a very unfair press in that regard. we will see what happens with mr bannon. but he is a good person and i think the press treats him frankly very unfairly. you have been called on to defend hr mcmaster against attacks.|j you have been called on to defend hr mcmaster against attacks. i did that. do you mean senator mccain who voted against is getting good health care? senator mccain said the alt—right is behind these attacks and he linked them to the attacks in cha rlottesville. and he linked them to the attacks in charlottesville. i couldn't tell
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you, iam charlottesville. i couldn't tell you, i am sure senator mccain knows what he's talking about. define alt—right to me. go ahead. what he's talking about. define alt-right to me. go ahead. senator mccain defined them as... what about the three mac. alt—left who came charging at the alt—right, swinging clu bs, charging at the alt—right, swinging clubs, do they have any problem? i think they do. as far as i'm concerned that was a horrible, horrible day. wait a minute. i'm not finished. i'm not finished, fake news. that was a horrible day. i will tell you something. i watched those very closely, much more closely than you people watched it. you had a group on one side that was mad and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. and
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nobody wants to say that but i will say it right now. you had a group on the other side that came charging in without a permit and they were very, very violent. do you think that what you call the alt—left is the same as neo—nazis? you call the alt—left is the same as neo-nazis? all of those people, excuse me, i have condemned neo—nazis. i have condemned many different groups but not all of those people were neo—nazis, believe me. not all of them were white supremacists by any stretch. those people were also there because they wa nted people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue of the robert ev. you look at some of the groups and you see, and you would know it if you are honest reporters which in many cases you are not, but many of those people were there to protest the taking down of robert e lee. i
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noticed that andrew jackson is coming down and i wonder if it will be thomas jefferson coming down and i wonder if it will be thomasjefferson of coming down and i wonder if it will be thomas jefferson of the coming down and i wonder if it will be thomasjefferson of the week after. you have to ask yourself where does it stop. they were there to protest, excuse me, you take a look the night before, they were there to protest at the taking down of the statue of the robert e lee. infrastructure question. did the statue stay up, should it stay up?” would say that's up to the local town, the community, the local government where it is located. are you against the confederacy? do you think things in america have got that? look, they've been frayed for a long time, you can ask president obama because he made speeches about it. i believe that the fact that i brought in, it will be sin, millions ofjobs, you will see where companies are moving back into our country, i think that will have a
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tremendous positive impact on race relations, we have to car companies that have just announced, we have one in wisconsin, we have many companies as a pouring back into the country. i think it's going to have a huge positive impact on race relations. you know why, it'sjobs. what people want now is jobs, great jobs with good pay. and when they have that, you watch a race relations will be. i tell you, we spending a lot of money on the inner cities. we are fixing the inner cities. we are fixing the inner cities. we are doing far more than anyone has done with respect to the inner cities. it is a priority for me. are you putting what you are calling the alt—left and white supremacists on the same model plane. am not putting anybody on the moral plane, i am saying you had one group on one side and one group one another and they came at each other with clubs and was vicious,
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horrible, horrible thing to watch. there was a group on this site, you can call them the left, you have called the left, that came violently attacking the other group. so you can say what you want but that's the it is. you said that there was hatred and violence on both sides, sir. i think there is blame on both sides. you look at both sides. i think there is blame on both sides. i have no doubt about it and you don't have any doubt about it either. and if you reported it accurately, you would say... the neo—nazis started this thing in cha rlottesville. neo—nazis started this thing in charlottesville. you had some very bad people in that group but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. you had people, on both sides. you had people in that group, excuse me, excuse me, i saw the same pictures as you did. you had people in that
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group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very important statue, and the renaming ofa important statue, and the renaming of a park from robert e lee to another name. white nationalists? was george washington a slave owner? will george washington now loses status? excuse me? are we going to ta ke status? excuse me? are we going to take down the statues to george washington? how about thomas jefferson? do you like him? good. we going to take down the study because he was a major slave owner. will we ta ke he was a major slave owner. will we take down his statue? you know what, it's fine. you're changing history, changing culture and you had people and i'm not talking about the neo—nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally but you had many people in that group other than neo—nazis and white nationalists, ok. and the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. in the other group also
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you will have some fine people but you will have some fine people but you also had trouble makers and you saw them coming with the black outfits and the helm ats and the baseball bats. you had a lot of bad people in the other group as well. you were saying that the press had treated white nationalists unfairly? i don't understand. there were people in that rally, i looked at before, if you look, there were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of robert e lee. i am sure that in that group there were some bad ones. the following day it looked like they have some rough bad people. neo nazis, white nationalists, whatever you call them that a lot of people we re you call them that a lot of people were there to innocently protest, and legally protest, i don't know if you know, they had a permit. the other group did not have a permit. i only tell you this, that our two sites to story. i thought what place
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was a horrible moment for our country. horrible moment. but there are two sides to the story. does anyone have a final... you didn't get health care. what makes you think you didn't get an infrastructure failure. we came close with health care, john mccain voted against it at the last minute, you have to ask him why. we came close to it, we'll end up getting health care, infrastructure is one thing i think we will have bipartisan support on. i think democrats will go along with... mr president have you spoken to the family of the victim of the car attack? i thought that the statement, the mother's statement i thought was beautiful. it was something that i really appreciated. i thought it was terrific. under the
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kind of stress that she is under and the heartache she is and i thought putting out that statement to me was really something i want forget. thank you all very much. thank you. donald trump, you heard, was in defensive mode. obviously angry at the way his reaction to the violence in cha rlottesville has the way his reaction to the violence in charlottesville has been reported. he said of the violence that there were both groups that we re that there were both groups that were violent, aside on the left violently attacked and there is blame on both sides. he said of the group on the right that they were not all neo—nazis or white supremacists. he was questioned repeatedly, are you putting the alt—right and the left wing protesters on the same plane, given that one woman died, and she died allegedly at the hands of an alt—right protester. i think we can
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go to washington, and speak to anthony zurcher. he said he could not have made a statement earlier because he didn't have all the fa cts . because he didn't have all the facts. that was puzzling. what we saw yesterday was a carefully planned, scripted statement of mr trump addressing the situation, but i think we now have a window about white he acted the way he did on saturday after the violence in charlottesville. he said he wanted to make sure he got the story out but it was clear that he thinks that there were violent people on both sides. i think it was pretty clear, even before violence broke out in charlottesville, even before violence broke out in cha rlottesville, what even before violence broke out in charlottesville, what the nature of those protests were when he talked about what was going on the night before, he has courted a peaceful protest. the night before there were white supremacists marching around charlottesville, white supremacists marching around cha rlottesville, the white supremacists marching around charlottesville, the university of
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virginia's campus having chants like "blood and soil". so the nature of the protests were clear but as you said donald trump was very defensive. he feels there is another side to the story and that was why he was reluctant to explicitly condemn white supremacists on saturday. donald trump made that point quite powerfully when he talked about two sides to a story and said, we going to take down statues of george washington and thomas jefferson because statues of george washington and thomasjefferson because they statues of george washington and thomas jefferson because they were slave owners. will we deny history? a lot of people in america presumably would think, he's speaking the truth there. right, i grew up in the south, i had a civil war memorial in my hometown of austin, texas. civil war ornaments are an important cultural touchstone for many white southerners but they are also considered by some critics to be condoning treason. robert e
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lee led an army that fought against the us government army. george washington did not do that, thomas jefferson did not do that so i think you will hear critics say that mr trump is taking sides in this particular debate over removing the statues. he did mention that it was a local decision and should be a local decision. he didn't weigh in on whether the statue should remain or not although i know there was a local decision in charlottesville to remove the robert e lee statue, that is what the people were protesting against. in this case the city of cha rlottesville against. in this case the city of charlottesville was taking action that mr trump has said after the fa ct that mr trump has said after the fact that he supports. as you say, revealing a news conference. one of the points to trump made when asked how will race relations improve, he said, jobs, i will bring backjobs, jobs are the answer. that is this focus, isn't it. it is and this is
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what the event today was supposed to be about before he turned it over to media questions, he was talking about infrastructure investments, how he would streamline the ability to finance massive government projects and how much easier it will be under his administration to build a skyscraper or build a highway. he was talking about the jobs, taking credit for the millions of jobs was talking about the jobs, taking credit for the millions ofjobs that have been created in the country since he became president. i think the bottom line is, all of the conflict, all of the controversies that have swirled around his administration will all eventually ta ke administration will all eventually take a back—seat if the economy is doing well, if people are getting jobs and feeling better about with the economy is heading. anthony, good to have you with us. we will finish this edition with this story. at least 12 people have been reported killed by a falling tree during a religious festival on the portuguese island of madeira. it happened in the capital. more than 50 others were injured when the
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200—year—old oak tree came down without warning at the gathering. this is how one of the worshippers described events of the celebration. we heard a noise. i looked up, my son was by my side. i only saw the tree falling so i called my son and iran tree falling so i called my son and i ran away. i had tree falling so i called my son and iran away. i had a big bang. a lot of people in a panic. a lot of people were down there. and just to remind you of our breaking news, during this edition donald trump defending his statement about the violence in virginia at the weekend. more to come, another edition of the programme is coming right up so please stay with us. thank you, we'll take a look at the european weather in a few minutes,
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given recent events it would be remiss of me if we did not head to sierra leone. weird show you the last couple of days worth of satellite imagery. you will notice these great islands of cloud coming huge thunderstorm is making their way from east to west right across the region. it is these thunderstorms that have delivered this extraordinary amount of rain. this is not one of the local rivers in freetown, this is one of the local roads. inundated by that torrential rain we've seen of late. it's the height of the rainy season, it has been that way since july, august alone can deliver around 900 millimetres of rain, and in bad news for the region and west africa is that more heavy rain is on the way and as soon as wednesday we will see torrential downpours in neighbouring guinea, and also into sierra leone, looking further east, developments upstream. over some of that rain, falling into the drought affected
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areas widely across southern states of africa and also moving further north towards the one, into south sudan. little meaningful prospect of that over the next few days. let me ta ke that over the next few days. let me take you from one rainy season to another. since early june take you from one rainy season to another. since earlyjune we've south—westerly monsoon developing across south asia. extraordinary amounts of rainfall falling into the himalayas has led to rivers bursting their banks downstream across bangladesh and the northern states of india and widely across south asia, the floods have now claimed over 200 victims, millions have been affected by the floods and day—to—day life has been massively disrupted. transport powered telecoms have all suffered at the hands of those widespread floods. we are talking about a seasonal event but the season is made from day—to—day and he gained through wednesday we are expecting heavy rainfall across the western states
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of india, perhaps of greater concern, yet more rain to come in the himalayas and then widely across the himalayas and then widely across the northern states of india and down into bangladesh. the only shields of cloud across europe are to be found near active fronts north of the black sea and closer to home in the british isles, an unsettled start it comes this band of where sweeping across scandinavia, down towards parts of poland and eastern germany. this is a bit of summer warmth that the sun does come out further south, temperatures ticking up further south, temperatures ticking up yet again. any signs of the heat heading close to the british isles, will have details in a few minutes. hello, this is outside source. hundreds of people have died in flooding and landslides in sierra
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leone. we are trying to sort the corpses out, more corpses have them brought in from different parts of the city. this is a disaster which even by the reckoning of the head of this mortuary is unprecedented. here, a future without borders. the government pushes for a friction is trade deal to help businesses switch into a poster brexit future. and you can get in touch with our hash tag.
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