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i'm ben brown live in barcelona. spanish police foil second terror attack after 13 people were killed in barcelona yesterday — five men are shot dead in cambrils, a town southwest of barcelona. that is after a car was driven into pedestrians, injuring seven, including a police officer. people from 2a countries were caught up in the attack on las ramblas yesterday afternoon. 80 people are injured, some seriously, after a van ploughed through pedestrians on the famous tourist landmark in the centre of barcelona. people caught up the attack have been describing fleeing for their lives into shops and bars as the driver of the van swerved into pedestrians. we will be talking to eyewitnesses caught up in both incidents and bringing you all
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the latest developments. welcome to bbc news, we are right in the heart of barcelona is placid catalonia, catalonia square, just at the end of las ramblas. this is where the van driver began his attack, he drove down las ramblas, swerving and weaving left and right and leaving 13 people dead and dozens injured from more than 20 different countries. three people, according to spanish police, have been arrested in connection with the attack. it seems that a fully fledged terror network has been operating here in catalonia, in the
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early hours of this morning in the town of cambrils, about 100 kilometres south—west of here, there was another incident in which a car was another incident in which a car was driven at pedestrians, seven people injured, including a police officer. this time the vehicle overturned, police opened fire very quickly and shot dead five suspected terrorists. they were reportedly wearing explosive belts, there was then a series of controlled explosions. let's get this report from sarah corker. gunshots. in the early hours of friday morning, a dramatic shoot out in the holiday resort of cambrils. the authorities say five suspected terrorists were shot dead by police. officers opened fire after the attackers drove a car at pedestrians. seven people were injured. the next thing, police were right there, it was really quick. then they started shouting
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at the guy and the next thing, theyjust shot him. the incident in cambrils is being linked to the deadly van attack in the centre of barcelona, less than 100 miles away. hundreds of holiday—makers, locals, shoppers ran for their lives. this white van was used as a weapon to kill. for half a kilometre, the vehicle ploughed into pedestrians on spain's most famous boulevard. i saw a white van with the side door open. we heard gunshots. whether it was police orfrom the van, i don't know, we didn't hang around for that. we ran into the burger king to get shelter. police released this photo of driss 0ukabir, born in morroco, whose documents were used to rent the van, but latest reports suggest he told police his passport was stolen. the so—called islamic state group
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said it was behind the attack. translation: i want to express the solidarity of the whole of spain with barcelona, today hit byjihadist terrorism, like other cities around the world before it. the authorities are now linking the attacks in barcelona and cambrils with an explosion on wednesday in the town of alcanar. one person died. police believe suspects at the house were preparing explosives. and, as people anxiously wait for news of loved ones, the authorities have warned the number of dead may rise. sarah corker, bbc news. life is beginning to return to normal at las ramblas, market stall holder is going back to work, pedestrians wandering up and down.
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you can seek police tape on the pavement where the van had pedestrians, otherwise no sign of the horror that unfolded yesterday. let's focus for a moment on what has happened cambrils, around 100 kilometres away, a popular seaside town where a car believed to be an audi was driven into pedestrians. five men shot dead by police, suspected terrorists. this is what eyewitnesses told us. the spanish prime minister mariano rajoy has said that what happened in barcelona was a jihadist attack, and it has been claimed by so—called islamic state. they say their so—called soldiers were responsible for the attack. no evidence or proof of that. mariano rajoy says it is a jihadist attack. at midday local time, people will gather for a minute's silence to pay their respects to the dead and injured,
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that will be particularly in catalonia square at the end of las ramblas, and there are three days of national mourning across spain as to what has happened in barcelona. back to you in the studio. we will be back with ben with more from blair, but now the rest of the day's news. it's emerged that the defence secretary sir michael fallon has personally apologised to the mother of a soldier killed in a lightly—armoured snatch land rover in iraq. the bbc has sent a letter to sue smith, whose son private phillip hewett died in a bombing in 2005. —— the -- the bbc —— the bbc has seen the letter sent to sue smith. clive coleman reports. sue smith's son, private philip hewett, was killed by an improvised explosive device while travelling in a lightly armoured snatch land rover in iraq, july 2005. sue hoped an inquest due to last five days would provide answers about the snatch, and how philip died, but it lasted just three hours. she found the inability to get answers from the ministry of defence maddening.
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sometimes i felt like theyjust wanted me to either go away or die. or be ill. you know, so i would give up. i couldn't give up. in 2013, sue and two other families of soldiers killed in snatch land rovers won a landmark ruling at the supreme court, enabling them to sue the mod because the human rights act was deemed to apply to soldiers on the battlefield. it was the publication here injuly last year of the report into the enquiry into the iraq war by sirjohn chilcot that changed everything. it gave a damning assessment of how for years the ministry of defence failed to replace the inadequate and lightly armoured snatch land rovers. almost a year after the chilcot report, sue's case along with those of two other bereaved families‘ was settled. she received a letter of apology from the defence secretary, michael fallon, in which he wrote... it means that he didn't die
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for nothing, at the end of it all. that is something. that is the only thing i can say. sue's 12 year legal battle with the army that sent her son to iraq is finally over, but her grief will endure. clive coleman, bbc news. the uk has pledged £5 million to help the victims of the mudslide in the west african state of sierra leone. 400 people are known to have died and 600 are still missing after torrential rain caused the side of a mountain to collapse, engulfing a suburb of the capital freetown. the international development secretary priti patel said the money would be used to provide food, water, shelter and clothing. portugal has declared a state of emergency so it can access funds to combat fires that are devastating
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some of the country's forests. thousands of firefighters have been tackling huge blazes in recent days and residents of several villages have been evacuated from their homes. the us navy says around a dozen of its sailors will be disciplined after seven crew members were killed in a collision between one of its warships and a cargo vessel injune. three senior officers will be removed from duty on the uss fitzgerald because the navy said it had lost trust and confidence in their ability to lead. investigations into the cause of the crash, which took place injapanese waters, are ongoing. food manufacturers will be told to reduce calories in products including pizzas, burgers and ready meals as part of the campaign to tackle childhood obesity in england. last year, the government asked companies to cut the sugar content in food. but charities and health campaigners say ministers must try harder to curb obesity levels. the new plans could see the size of products reduced all ingredients in food and drink change. trading has resumed at one of
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scotland's most important wholesale markets less than 2a hours after a devastating fire. more than 70 firefighters tackled the flames at the blochairn market in the east end of glasgow, which provides fresh fruit and vegetables for most of the country. the market employs 400 full—time workers. no one was injured. that's the news, now the sport. england's batsmen were perfectly co mforta ble england's batsmen were perfectly comfortable with the pink ball as they took control on the opening day of their first day/ night test against the west indies at edgbaston. the new skipper had another good day, joe root making 136 as his side dominated, closing on 348—3. 0pen alastair cook batted through the entire day and night, earning his 31st test century and his first since stepping down as captain. he will resume on 153 later
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this afternoon. he is a fine player, he has shown his class today. he does not sweat, he makes it look easy, it can be frustrating when you on your third orfourth pair of gloves and he is on the one he has been wearing three sessions! the england head coach mark sampson says he'll be looking to improve his general communication style after being cleared of making racial remarks towards one of his players. you may remember yesterday the football association had come under pressure regarding the payment of an £80,000 settlement paid to forward eni aluko. it came after she had a bullying and harassment claim against england dismissed by an independent investigation. well, the fa put out another statement on the issue yesterday. in it sampson said... but sampson did go on to say he would be working on his
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communication style. it's been a good week for british teams looking to qualify for europe next season. a perfect sweep of first leg wins, this time for everton in their europa league play—off, who beat hadjuk split 2—0 at goodison park. but the match was marred by crowd trouble after the travelling fans surged towards the pitch and threw objects as play was stopped in the first half. that came shortly after michael keane's opener. idrissa gueye added a second after the delay, but uefa will now have to examine the crowd trouble before the reverse leg in croatia next thursday. england will play france on tuesday for a place in the final of the women's rugby world cup, after beating the united states in strong fashion by 47 points to 26. the defending champions ran in seven tries to make it three wins out of three, and to finish top of their group. before france knocked out the hosts ireland to confirm their place in the last four.
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wales beat hong kong but, were already out of semi—final contention. and finallyjust ten days away from the start of this year's us open, johanna konta is once again raising expectations. the british number one beat slovakian dominika sibulkova 6—3 6—4 in typically powerful style to reach the cincinnati 0pen quarterfinals. konta is into the last eight at the event for the first time and moves on to a rematch of her wimbledon quarterfinal against simona halep. that is all this board for now, there will be more later. thank you, see you later. —— all the sport for now. let me bring you the latest on the investigation of the spanish attacks, spanish police say they believe there may have been eight people in a cell which carried out the attack and that the group planned to use butane gas canisters, thatis
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planned to use butane gas canisters, that is reuters quoting a judicial source with knowledge of the investigation. there was an incident on wednesday at a place around 100 miles or so from barcelona where it has exploded, a huge explosion, the house completely destroyed. police investigating that found canisters inside the home and they believe there was perhaps an intention to build a bomb back, but we now hear that the spanish authorities believe that the spanish authorities believe that butane gas canisters were planned to have some involvement in the attack in barcelona on thursday after that initial explosion on wednesday. there is also the separate investigation into what happened in cambrils, seven injured after a car drove into them and five men were shot dead wearing fake suicide belts. the authorities investigating these three separate but linked incidents. in the studio we will be speaking to a security expert later about the investigation and the threat. now the latest from barcelona with ben. about the investigation and the threat. right now, all of the very
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latest from barcelona, with ben brown. the authorities here now say a terrorist cell of eight people look to have been behind the attack at las ramblas, just down there, behind me, in which 13 people were killed when that white van was driven at high speed for about half a kilometre, half the length of las ramblas, injuring dozens of people, some of them seriously ill in hospital right now full. the other main development overnight was another vehicle being driven into pedestrians, this time in the town of cambrils, seaside town, 100 kilometres away. five suspected terrorists were then shot dead after that car overturned, by police, an eyewitness, fitzroy davis, filmed some of that shooting, i should say, viewers may find some of this video that was filmed therein cambrils distressing and is disturbing, we are going to show you an excerpt of
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it right now. shouting gunfire that video filmed by fitzroy davis of wolverhampton, matted footage, we hope to speak with him in just a few minutes on bbc news. let's talk more about what happened here in the centre of barcelona, las ramblas behind me, one of the most popular tourist destination is notjust here in barcelona but in all of europe, people come from all over the
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continent, all over the world, to walk up and down this famous las ramblas, this van was driven at high speed for half a kilometre, ploughing into pedestrians. richard gregg is from dartford, kent, you witnessed some of the aftermath, tell us what you saw. we were walking back onto las ramblas, immediately after the van had hit, did not really know, it was surreal and chaotic at the time, all we heard was a couple of tourists shouting that people had been hit and there was blood everywhere. we got onto las ramblas and people were running everywhere, we could not get anywhere near oui’ running everywhere, we could not get anywhere near our apartment, which is literally parallel with where the van ended up, so we made our way through the back streets, which were filled with people at that time, panicking, really, the police also we re panicking, really, the police also were in the back streets very quickly. las ramblas has numerous side alley ways, all the way up and down, literally flooded with police, on foot, on motorcycles, getting us
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off the street and clearly looking for someone, we off the street and clearly looking for someone, we now off the street and clearly looking for someone, we now know... when we got back to our street we could see where the van had ended, bodies on the floor, we made our way back to oui’ the floor, we made our way back to our apartment as quickly as we could, we ended up within the police called in and could not leave the building, because the market place where a lot of the armed police were was literally behind our building. we were in this sort of track position. how long were you trapped there for? have you been able to go back? we stayed in the apartment for two or three hours, until we got the international news, nothing on the news for about 20 minutes, half an hour, we did not know the severity of what had happened apart from judging by the numbers of people running through the streets and the volume of police and helicopters overhead, so we knew it was fairly serious. we left the apartment at 9:30pm, to meet friends on the other side of barcelona, check they were all0k, the
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side of barcelona, check they were all ok, the whole city was fairly quiet, fairly subdued, normally you would expect barcelona to be buzzing at this time of year. 0bviously eve ryo ne at this time of year. 0bviously everyone is now very on edge.“ at this time of year. 0bviously everyone is now very on edge. if you had been walking down las ramblas a fume and is earlier, you could have been caught up in the attack. we would have been where the van ended up would have been where the van ended up had we been two minutes earlier, thatis up had we been two minutes earlier, that is where we were headed. we are really grateful that we were just two minutes behind where the attack happened. you are on holiday here, are you staying, despite what happened question mark we are staying until monday, taking it day by day, seeing how things go. it was fiercely... we were freaked out last night, and on edge, we feel a little bit calmer today, as you have mentioned, las ramblas is getting back to some semblance of normality, as lots of people down there, stalls opening back up, we feel fairly reassured by the volume of police,
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and the security service response. we are intending to stay. you are a bit shaken? a little bit shocked and on edge, has not really sunk in, the first, sort of ten minutes after the attack it was all fairly surreal, half the crowd were running and screaming away, the other half had no clue what was happening at all, just standing around, looking, wondering what is going on. so it was all a bit surreal for the first bit, and then once it became clear what was happening, that is when it sta rts what was happening, that is when it starts to sink in. when we saw people on the floor being tended to by emergency services we suddenly realise the severity of the situation. we were very concerned last night, until they had arrested anyone, because we did not know where anybody was, now, we hear that the driver is probably still not apprehended. that leaves a little bit of apprehension, worried, about where we are going to go tonight,
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what we are going to do today, we wa nt to what we are going to do today, we want to stay insecure places. there has been a string of these vehicle attacks across europe, including london, did you realise pretty quickly that that is probably what it was, when you saw everybody running? we realised, when the first tourist was shouting out that people had been hit, we thought perhaps it was just a had been hit, we thought perhaps it wasjust a tragic had been hit, we thought perhaps it was just a tragic car accident, by the time we saw the volume of police and we could see that there was the van there and bodies on the floor, we guessed pretty quickly that this was some form of deliberate attack. especially knowing las ramblas as well, it is a prime target for that sort of attack because you have concentrated pedestrians in a small area, literally nowhere to run. as the van was going down, those people had nowhere to go because traffic either side of you, literally a com plete either side of you, literally a complete mess of people in the middle. nowhere to escape. we guessed exactly what was going on.
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thank you so much for talking to us about your experiences and what you saw, richard, from kent, thank you very much for your time. we have been talking as well about what happened in the early hours of this morning in cambrils, about 100 kilometres away, another vehicle, this time a car, was driven into pedestrians, seven injured including a police officer, that car overturned, five suspected terrorists shot dead very quickly indeed by the police, by armed police, a british man, fitzroy davis from wolverhampton filmed some of the police action there. you may find these pictures distressing, we will talk to fitzroy in a moment, let's show you the video once more. shouting. gunfire that video footage taken by fitzroy
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davis, from wolverhampton, canjoin us on davis, from wolverhampton, canjoin us on the line now stop tell us where you were and what you saw, and what was going through your mind at the time. we were sitting in a bar, outfront, some girls ran in, scared, fear on theirfaces, outfront, some girls ran in, scared, fear on their faces, and outfront, some girls ran in, scared, fear on theirfaces, and one of outfront, some girls ran in, scared, fear on their faces, and one of the quys fear on their faces, and one of the guysjumped fear on their faces, and one of the guys jumped up fear on their faces, and one of the guysjumped up and had a look at what is going on, and people started running past us, and whatever, and one of the guys said, run. we came
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out of the bar, i was standing on the street, and i got my phone out, because i saw this guy come running towards me, and i started filming. first humvee said, call the police, within 30 seconds, the police turned up, and then, they drew their guns, there were shouting, shouting something to the guy, and then next thing i know, shots fired, he went down. and then within two seconds, stood back up, then he hopped over a fence, then he came walking to the police, smiling, laughing at them, and then they shot him again. and then he fell down. people might be amazed that you were just filming that, were you aware of what was going to unfold as she started filming? not untilthe police
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going to unfold as she started filming? not until the police turned up. it was only when the police turned up with guns drawn that i realised, this is serious. and then, when the first shots was fired, in one mind, people were shouting, come on, and go, but in the other mind, the adrenaline was there and i thought, i will carry on filming, so thatis thought, i will carry on filming, so that is what i did full top tell us what you are doing daring cambrils, one of the people you are there with was hit with a bit of shrapnel, is that right? yes, he has gone to hospital now, having him checked out. it is like a burn on his leg. he is ok. but we made sure that he went to the hospital. we are at a judo camp, first time we have been here. it puts a bit of a dampener on it. we had a good camp, it has put a
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bit of a dampener on it, but hopefully, this afternoon, we can get everybody‘s spirits back up, get straight into the camp. the camp is still going on, a few people have gone to the camp, but a couple of my youngsters have not gone to the camp, they did not feel like they wa nted camp, they did not feel like they wanted to go to the camp. horrific events, are people trying to get on with life as normal despite what happened ? to get on with life as normal despite what happened? we are about one mile away from the actual where it was, and so i can't tell you exactly what is happening down there, but where we are is normal people, walking, going to the shop, doing the normal things, and
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whatever, it is the judo, doing the normal things, and whatever, it is thejudo, quite doing the normal things, and whatever, it is the judo, quite a few people going to the judo, and a few people going to the judo, and a few who have not gone. fitzroy davies, thank you for talking to us and for sharing that video with us, extraordinary footage that was filmed by fitzroy davies. the early hours of the morning, local time, in cambrils, the early hours of the morning, localtime, in cambrils, with the early hours of the morning, local time, in cambrils, with five suspected terrorists shot dead by armed police. sources in barcelona telling us they believe a terror network of eight people was involved in the attack, the van attack at las ramblas, yesterday afternoon, before 5pm, when the van driver at high speeds down las ramblas, killing 13 and injuring dozens more people, people from more than 20 countries, 20 countries were casualties of that, many of them from france, we
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are hearing, about 20 french people injured in that attack. there will bea injured in that attack. there will be a minutes silence elizabeth later on today in the heart of barcelona as people remember and pay respects to the dead, and injured, and three days now of national mourning declared by the spanish government. that is the latest from here, back to the studio in london. studio: we will be back with more from barcelona in a little while. right now, we will focus on the security issues around these vehicle attacks because there has been those two attacks in barcelona and nearby, in cambrils, but there has been several attacks over the course of the past year, the question asked, can vehicle attacks be prevented? in just over a year, europe has seen seven attacks were vehicles have been used as weapons. a threat, but he talked of buying guns... and this is where it ended up, in flames after... my wife, my friend and i...
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10pm. this white van had run down... sirens. here at westminster bridge, they have installed these barriers to stop vehicles running into pedestrians on the bridge. but an attacker could just pick a different crowded place. the authorities are also looking at things like more checks on people making short notice rentals of vans, but the problem is, these attacks require just everyday items. just a car, no guns or explosives. and with so little planning required, it can be hard to spot them and stop them. new shock absorbing barriers like this one shown in a test may offer some protection. but counterterrorism experts caution they cannot stop all attacks happening. so could this attack have been prevented ?
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what's the state of radicalism in spain, and how are the authorities dealing with it? to give us an insight into these questions and more i'm joined by eduardo saldana, am expert in radicalism and security in madrid and here in the studio by lee dodgeridge, a director at covenant security and risk management and a former member of the uk's national counter terrorism security office. —— kerb does notjoin us, it is frank gardner. the authorities believe eight people we re the authorities believe eight people were in bolt in a cell which carried out the attack in barcelona, what are you hearing? it is not a little wolf, as originally thought. the line the spanish investigators are going down is a network, they are linking all three incidents. the attack on las ramblas with a vehicle which mowed down and killed 13 people and injured over 100, the other attack on the port 60 kilometres south of their where the tom okker five attackers were shot
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and killed, and on wednesday evening before those there was an explosion ona before those there was an explosion on a flat which did not seem suspicious at the time but they now think it was some form of preparation or test for explosives. they think there was a network planning to use gas explosives. clearly this is happening right under the noses of the spanish authorities. they had a tip—off, a warning from the caa, almost certainly be more —— moroccan authorities would have tipped them off as well. one of the alleged perpetrators came through from the spanish enclave on the north african coast. in terms of the potential scale of any network they are talking about a cell of eight. what has been going on in spain in terms of radicalisation and terror networks? eight is quite an unusually large number. these days. because western intelligence agencies and the russians and chinese, for that matter, have got infinitely better
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surveillance and interception, but working against there is encryption. generally people are tending to keep their number is small, because the more people you have on the network, the greater the risk that somebody will be caught and turned witness or that they will be intercepted and give the game away. that is quite big. spain is a target for a number of reasons. it has got a very large moroccan population, most of whom are completely peaceful and law—abiding, but it is a fertile pool for jihadis law—abiding, but it is a fertile pool forjihadis to hunt in because some of them have spent time in morocco with al-qaeda supporters, some have gone to so—called islamic state. that is in no way to prejudice against the peaceful majority. there was also the fact that hard—core jihadists majority. there was also the fact that ha rd—core jihadists have majority. there was also the fact that hard—core jihadists have never given up trying to reclaim spain and portugal and andalusia for the caliphate, it was ruled by over 500 yea rs caliphate, it was ruled by over 500 years as part of the islamic empire
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and they want it back. the last attack in spain was in madrid in 2004, what has gone on since in terms of counterterrorism methods? lots of arrests. spain already had a very effective counterterrorism programme because they had to deal for decades with the basque separatist group at which is now lay down its arms. they have been pretty good on counterterrorism. —— the basque separatist group et a. when the madrid attacks happened in 2004, mis the madrid attacks happened in 2004, m15 originally thought it would be eta, because that is what the spanish government told them. they have never eradicated all the jihadis cells and there are people coming up from north africa and certain factors that lead to people becoming vulnerable to recruitment such as unemployment, a feeling of exclusion from spanish society, a certain degree of rachel prejudice showing and profiling. —— racial
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prejudice and profiling. there are certain areas of cities where there isa certain areas of cities where there is a class that feels excluded from normal society. these are the people preyed upon by ices recruiters. and the authorities are working to try to find the driver of the van, who escaped from the scene? unless he was one of the five shot in the second attack, they are not certain. it is very suspicious because everybody initially said it is this quy everybody initially said it is this guy driss 0ukabir, he said my brother stole my id papers, it was not me, so they are trying to investigate and pin it down at the moment. leader dredge, you have been looking at protecting pedestrians on the streets of london in particular with this new threat of car tax —— lee, you have been looking. whatever you been looking at in particular? about the latest attacks over the last two mcree years or so, how easy
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it is for a vehicle to be used to cause devastating injuries and fatalities like we sadly saw yesterday. we are working on a current project where the initial design for renewing the streetscape ofa design for renewing the streetscape of a high—profile retailer in london was designed to prevent the mopeds style attacks we have seen almost weekly. we have now been brought in to assist and say is there any more we can do to maybe safeguard pedestrians from this form of attack as well? so we are working closely with the architects to say how can we put in long—lasting measures, redesigned the streetscape? we have seen redesigned the streetscape? we have seen immediate measures put in place in places like westminster bridge in london but they are restricted by how much weight they can put on them and the temporary measures. when we had the opportunity to look at a large retail area on an iconic street in london, we are doing a numberof street in london, we are doing a number of things with them. even if
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that ultimately becomes a template for other areas it is not always possible to do it everywhere. and how quick terrorists are changing the way they operate, once one threat is effectively protected against they will look for something else? history has told us they are very adapted a change in various tactics. the first indications of a vehicle being used to attack people was promoted by al-qaeda in their inspire magazine back in 2010. we have not seen those in mainland europe until the last couple of you is, but hammers has used that tactic in israel for quite some time. —— but hamas has. it is early an investigation but it would maybe indicate they were planning a different of attack, maybe explosion on wednesday has made them change plans. it is easy to selected vehicle and carry out those sorts of attacks. eduardo saldana joins us
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from madrid. thank you forjoining us. from madrid. thank you forjoining us. hello. how much of a hobo 's barcelona for radicalisation? —— how much of a hub is barcelona? there is the north of morocco, barcelona, madrid and another time. barcelona is probably the second largest city in radicalisation in spain. in these last years we have been suffering a huge amount of special forces operations, counterterrorism operations, counterterrorism operations in the city. and one of the arrested individuals comes from a particular city, but we could see dann say that barcelona is the second—largest area for in spain ——
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but we could say that barcelona is the second largest area for radicalisation in spain. there was a warning from the cia that las ramblas was potentially a target. what has been going on to try to prevent attacks? exactly. from last year to this year there have been seven operations. we can see any increase in the operation is done by the police. however, they have not managed to focus on the radicalisation in the cities. spain is one of the biggest countries with muslim populations, so it difficult to focus on all those neighbourhoods on the periphery of barcelona. what are the suspicions around how individuals are radicalised, how it may be operating? the special forces
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are focused on three main environments where we can find these radicalisation processes, especially in spain. we had to bear in two factors that play a very important role in the radicalisation process. one is the links with some familiar fronts all religious chiefs that radicalised these individuals, the others are the connections with social patterns. there is the focus following the radicalisation process. on an external level, the foreign fighters crossed through madrid and barcelona, they usually stop in all of those hubs and are pa rt stop in all of those hubs and are part of the process we are suffering. finally and probably most the online radicalisation, the cyberspace. in barcelona yesterday
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we saw fake explosives that they we re we saw fake explosives that they were reading. you can find information online about those areas. frank, is claimed responsibility within hours for the attack, saying it was carried out by islamic state soldiers. the question is howjoint is it? was it ordered ata is howjoint is it? was it ordered at a higher level or inspired? so—called islamic state has offered no proof that they did this. it is perfectly possible that they did, almost certainly it is a follow—on, almost certainly it is a follow—on, a long—term response to the call by someone a long—term response to the call by someone who was their chief spokesman and foreign planning specialist who in september 2014
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gave a speech calling on is followers around the world, particularly in europe, to basically carry out crude attacks, low impact... sorry, low tech, high impact, rather they could. impact... sorry, low tech, high impact, ratherthey could. i impact... sorry, low tech, high impact, rather they could. i will not list the methods, let's not give people ideas. this would fall into that category. this is why we have seen a succession that category. this is why we have seen a succession of vehicle running attacks in stockholm, nice, london, barcelona and berlin. i think it is becoming quite difficult for them now in what remains of their caliphate to operationally direct attacks like this. they can inspire, they can long—distance give some guidance, perhaps even arrange for some money to be passed through their traces banking system, but it is very hard for them to operationally direct these things in the way that al-qaeda did, for example with 9/11 or some of the
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earlier attacks in the early part of the century. how difficult is it to intercept what is going on with encrypted weight of communication being used and the fact that these attacks can easily be carried out with little planning? it is very difficult for the intelligence services and the police, especially the levels of encryption we are seeing on day—to—day apps like whatsapp, people use that all the time. there is a good purpose for having them but it is very difficult. as we mentioned earlier, demented people involved in this at the moment is quite surprising, as frank mentioned, about the exposure they have given themselves, there are eight people and there is more chance that one will slip up. it is very difficult to intercede on some of that. it will be interesting to draw on some parallels with paris. if it was a coordinated cell working there, is this the final cell we have? in paris there was the second
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cell. is were in a totally different place at the time of the paris attack to where we are now with their level of disruption. it would be interesting to see how the pieces are linked together. when the investigations into the network and folds it becomes clear that there are links across borders, different countries will be involved behind the scenes are trying to piece together the different parts? it does not necessarily become clear, that is part of the problem, continental european countries have been quite slow to show the day—to—day need. they had to improve, and they are improving. britain is farfrom perfect, britain had four terrorist attacks this year, nobody is patting themselves on the back in this country at all, but one of the problems has been that people, particularlyjeering the surge of migrants coming from turkey, certain terrorist elements
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could hide in that and cross borders. because there is no biometric checking, in other words an iris scan orfingerprint, people we re an iris scan orfingerprint, people were able to assume different names. in the case of is they will burn their passports and get brand—new ones, possibly faked and forged, sometimes borrowed from somebody who is dead. they are able to slip back into europe. that is proving a mountainous task to try and track everybody and share the information in real—time. germany and france and spain are getting much, much better at it. how this will pan out post brexit for britain i do not know. what is the sense of how these attacks unfolded, and what could have happened, because there was that explosion at a house, gas canisters, it is now suspected that happened on wednesday, it is now suspected that the gas canisters we re suspected that the gas canisters were intended for involvement in some way in what happened in barcelona what could have happened in cambrils
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could have been worse except that the police managed to kill the attackers pretty quickly. after all the attacks, there were different events, and now they are finding collections among these lotions may reveal that the terrorists were planning a bigger attack. this is uncovering what we have seen before. also, the rental of three vans and what happened yesterday night, shows that there was... it is not official, but we will probably find out that they were connected in some way. also, there was a murder in a car, yesterday morning, and now they are relating that. we may have a bigger problem than
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what we expected. and probably the political parties should consider terrorism more. how well-planned would this scenario have been, a van attack, any vehicle attacks, is an easy thing to carried out, but the police are now potentially talking about eight members of the cell, we see the house with the canisters in, sounds like there was planning over a period of time. it reveals to things that they were preparing an attack and also they did not know how to manage and work with these explosives, because you will have
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had a real good organised terrorist cell, they would not have committed these mistakes, that maybe lead them to take the van and go on through las ramblas, and last night in cambrils. i don't know how to say exactly in english, but they were not as prepared as we had seen in terror plots in 2004 and years after. ian was talking about the al-qaeda manual in 2010 which talked about using vehicles as weapons, it took some time for that to filter through, in terms of current thinking on terror organisations, what is the latest tracking and monitoring? depressing news, they are not necessarily always that far ahead of us, we are often, the news
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media, are their primary source, for something like this, there will be watching, they will be watching bbc, sky, cnn, other good networks exist, for the latest news. in terms of what comes out for what the jihadistss are planning, when they put out their magazine, online, the authorities cannot stop it, and u nfortu nately, authorities cannot stop it, and unfortunately, there is a wealth of very dangerous information in there. anybody in this country who downloads it can expect a knock on the doorfrom downloads it can expect a knock on the door from the metropolitan police. famously a few years ago there was one aimed at an american audience, americanjihadistss, there was one aimed at an american audience, american jihadistss, how to make a bomb in your mother's kitchen, these contain practical advice, particularly alarming one that has come out the last three days, that is talking about targeting britain, france, and the us, certain transport networks, with
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certain methods, which are viable. this is very worrying indeed. frankly when that stuff comes out, they do not have advanced warning, u nless they do not have advanced warning, unless they have a human agent placed upstream inside the organisation, given the state of colla pse organisation, given the state of collapse that isis is in at the moment, is quite difficult. thank you all very much, eduardo, frank, and lead, as well, you will be coming back, a little bit later, so thank you. we will see you again. what was it like to be caught up in the attack? people who saw a van ploughed into crowds share their stories. one eyewitness describes the moment a van hit crowds in las ramblas, families were screaming for their kids. it is a view to beautiful sunny day, packed with tourists, i
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was about to sit down for something to eat, literally seconds later, crashing noise. every blue started to run so i started to run, families screaming. —— everybody started to run. people we re —— everybody started to run. people were panicking. a shopkeeper was speaking, saying something, i spoke with him, tried to ask him, he said he thought he had seen a van drive into the crowd, five or six people very seriously injured. at that point, the ambulance, the fire brigade, the police officers were on the scene with machine guns and guns, very the scene with machine guns and guns, very quickly, people were panicking, then we were pushed back again. then pushed further back and pushed further back. police absolutely everywhere. people are in shock. that was one eyewitness, the flags
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of uk and spain are flying at half—mast at downing street, in barcelona, a one—minute silence at midday, local time. barcelona, a one—minute silence at midday, localtime. let's go barcelona, a one—minute silence at midday, local time. let's go back to ben brown, for the latest on barcelona. a minutes silence here, injust over an hour's time, as people in barcelona pay their respects to the dead, the 13 people who lost lives at las ramblas, yesterday afternoon, it has reopened, people walking up and down it, it is returning to normal. market stalls have reopened, bars and normal. market stalls have reopened, bars a nd restau ra nts normal. market stalls have reopened, bars and restaurants reopening, police take along there, not much else to show the horror that unfolded there yesterday when a white van was driven from here, where we are, placa de catalunya, right down, for about half a kilometre, high—speed, through las ramblas, killing 13, injuring dozens more, from many different
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nationalities, more than 20 different nationalities. eight people, according to the authorities, were involved in a cell. and in cambrils,100 kilometres from here, popular seaside resort, another vehicle, a car tried to run into pedestrians, ran into several pedestrians, injuring seven including a police officer, police opened fire, shot dead five suspected terrorists. some of that was filmed by fitzroy davies, british man from wolverhampton, i have been talking to him about what he saw and heard full we were sitting in a bar, outfront, some girls ran in, scared, fear on theirfaces, and one of the guysjumped up
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and had a look at what is going on, and people started running past us, and whatever, and one of the guys said, run. we came out of the bar, i was standing on the street, and i got my phone out, because i saw this guy come running towards me, and i started filming. we got onto las ramblas and people were running everywhere, when the first shot was fired, the
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adrenaline was in there. police have intercepted a terror cell in cambrils,100 police have intercepted a terror cell in cambrils, 100 kilometres from here. in barcelona, three arrests have been made in connection with the attack, the van attack at las ramblas, police say there may have been a cell of some eight people involved in the preparation, the conspiracy, behind the van attack, not just the the conspiracy, behind the van attack, notjust the driver, who did flee on foot, so the police hunting for him, three people arrested in connection with that, that is the latest from here in barcelona. let's
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get a weather forecast. a mixture today of sunshine and showers, starting off fairly dry and sunny, satellite picture here, good deal of sunshine, speck of clout here, western and northern parts indicates already we have one or two showers, though showers becoming more widespread this afternoon, across england and wales, pretty much all of us at some point we'll catch the showers, but it is across scotla nd catch the showers, but it is across scotland where they will turn into longer spells of rain in the north—east of scotland, that could be quite heavy at times, localised flooding, risk, also, scotland, northern ireland, good spells of sunshine, a few showers, feeling fresher than yesterday, blustery, westerly wind, temperatures in the mid—to high teams. across southern areas, not quite as warm, temperatures still potentially into the low 20s, good spells of sunshine, and a few showers passing
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by. at edgbaston for the cricket, good chance of interruptions. as we good chance of interruptions. as we go into the evening. many showers continuing, rain clearing from the north—east, temperatures down to about 12, 13. just a bit chillier thanit about 12, 13. just a bit chillier than it was last night. for the start of the weekend, not too bad, fine start, plenty of dry weather, lots of sunshine, a few showers, across northern and western areas, temperatures getting up to the high teams, low 20s again, feeling fresh, quite blustery conditions during saturday. it is as we go into sunday, a few complications in the forecast, area of low pressure, and rain spreading ahead of it, remnants of ex—hurricane gert, giving us a few headaches. we feel there will be rain moving into the south and west, still uncertainty as to the exact position of the rain as it moves in. starting of dry and fairly bright, driest weather will be towards the
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north—eastern quarter of the uk. as that low pressure system moves away, we will get a brief warm spell, coming in from the south, tropical airlosing in. coming in from the south, tropical air losing in. will not affect northern areas, mainly towards the south. on monday, bright and sunny spells, temperatures potentially up to 25 celsius, further north, a bit cooler, outbreaks of rain across scotla nd cooler, outbreaks of rain across scotland and also northern ireland. a few complications in the forecast as we go into sunday but saturday, largely fine and dry, more details available on the website. i'm ben brown live in barcelona. spanish police are investigating whether the van attack here yesterday, in which 13 people were killed, was linked to another incident overnight in the resort of cambrils. that resources around 100 kilometres from here. within 30 seconds police turned up,
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they drew their guns and were shouting something to the guy, next thing i know shots were fired. he went down. people from 24 countries were caught up in the attack on las ramblas yesterday afternoon — 80 people are injured some seriously after a van ploughed through pedestrians on the famous tourist landmark in the centre of barcelona. people caught up the attack have been describing fleeing for their lives into shops and bars as the driver of the van swerved into pedestrians. we will be talking to eyewitnesses caught up in both incidents and bringing you all the latest developments. welcome to bbc news, we are living
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the heart of barcelona, las ramblas just there me is where this horrific attack unfolded just before 5pm local time yesterday afternoon. a white van set off from here, catalonia square, placa de catalu nya, drove catalonia square, placa de catalunya, drove at high speeds and las ramblas, veering from side to side, left to right, swerving deliberately at pedestrians, leaving 13 dead, injuring dozens more, many of them seriously injured and still in hospital, some critically injured. we're hearing there are casualties from some 24 different countries. three people have been arrested in
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connection with the attack in barcelona. police say there may have been a terror cell other 28 people behind the plot to attack this tourist destination right in the heart of barcelona —— a terror cell of eight people. this destination a tt ra cts of eight people. this destination attracts tourists from right around the world and it was packed with people when the van drove into pedestrians. in the early hours of this morning a second attack, this time in the seaside town of cambrils around 100 kilometres from here. there, a car was used to drive into pedestrians. seven people injured, including a police officer, but this time armed police officer, but this time armed police opened fire very quickly and shot dead five terror suspects. some of that action by the police was filmed on camera. five suspected terror suspects have been killed by the police in cambrils. this report from sarah corker. gunshots. in the early hours of friday morning, a dramatic shoot out in the holiday resort of cambrils.
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the authorities say five suspected terrorists were shot dead by police. officers opened fire after the attackers drove a car at pedestrians. seven people were injured. the next thing, police were right there, it was really quick. then they started shouting at the guy and the next thing, theyjust shot him. the incident in cambrils is being linked to the deadly van attack in the centre of barcelona, less than 100 miles away. hundreds of holiday—makers, locals, shoppers ran for their lives. this white van was used as a weapon to kill. for half a kilometre, the vehicle ploughed into pedestrians on spain's most famous boulevard. i saw a white van with the side door open. we heard gunshots.
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whether it was police orfrom the van, i don't know, we didn't hang around for that. we ran into the burger king to get shelter. police released this photo of driss 0ukabir, born in morroco, whose documents were used to rent the van, but latest reports suggest he told police his passport was stolen. the so—called islamic state group said it was behind the attack. translation: i want to express the solidarity of the whole of spain with barcelona, today hit byjihadist terrorism, like other cities around the world before it. the authorities are now linking the attacks in barcelona and cambrils with an explosion on wednesday in the town of alcanar. one person died. police believe suspects at the house were preparing explosives. and, as people anxiously wait for news of loved ones, the authorities have warned the number of dead may rise. sarah corker, bbc news.
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lets tell you more about the dramatic shoot out in cambrils, around 100 kilometres from here, when the car was driven at pedestrians, injured seven, including a police officer. armed police opened fire and shot dead five terror suspects. a man from wolverhampton in britain was actually filming at the time of the police action on his camera phone, this is what he filmed. this was fitzroy davis, who filmed some of the police action in cambrils. gunshot. shouting. gunshot.
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that is what happened overnight in cambrils. let's focus on what happened in barcelona, is las ramblas. i can speak to one eyewitness, eneko de marcus. what happened? i was having a coffee, minority. it was about 4:30pm, i waited for a while. at around five minutes to five there was a noise, the next thing you know from the bottom of that street there was a stampede of thousands of people running and running and running. it
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was a dead giveaway that something was a dead giveaway that something was wrong, so we was a dead giveaway that something was wrong, so we turned the corner where the restaurant is and we ran inside the restaurant, they locked us inside the restaurant, they locked us in, we were locked in for around three and a half hours, no one gave this any information. things were filtering through about taking hostages in a restaurant and las ramblas, but we were just inside, it was chaos, children and women crying. i was quite relaxed because i had not seen the van. but after three and a half hours they letters go and the police major ‘s walk up the street —— made us walk up the street, then there was another bank, a noise, police started running in and everyone panicked. there was another stampede, i was not going to stick around, i ran for my wife. it was chaos. how long was it before you realised it was a terror attack, a vehicle had been used and people we re a vehicle had been used and people were killed? we did not know if it
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was terrorism or just were killed? we did not know if it was terrorism orjust someone who was terrorism orjust someone who was crazy or something, it took about half an hour to figure out what was going on. we were asking people who run into the restaurant what was happening, they did not know, they were in shock, crying. it was quite harrowing, to be honest. people terrified, running for their lives? yes, pandemonium on the streets. the police cordoned off everything, it was impossible to get home. people who live in this area we re home. people who live in this area were just stuck. if you wanted to get to your safe place at home you had to stick around and hope the suspects or whatever were apprehended without problems. you we re apprehended without problems. you were born and raised in britain but live in barcelona now, what has an attack like that is done to barcelona ? attack like that is done to barcelona? it seems to be people getting back to life as normal now? i went through the ones in london when i was young. yeah, it is very
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important we get back to the normal routine, people going back to doing what they do. it is quite sad for me, honestly, this is an isolated incident. in other places around the world it is happening daily. we need to help them all, you know? it happens once you, it is small scale and we are all panicking. it is happening in places around the world at ten or 20 times the scale. it is important we get back to normal routine, do the things we do, go to places we go. barcelona is an amazing city, please come and visit, it is beautiful. las ramblas is such a tourist destination, anybody who comes to barcelona comes here? everyone and anyone. my fronts were here two days ago, they left on sunday and i am so glad they rok —— my fronts were here. it is the place to be, iconic streets, people selling, vibrant to be, iconic streets, people selling, vibra nt and to be, iconic streets, people selling, vibrant and alive. it is a
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shock it has happened. we're hearing there might have been a terror cell of maybe eight people who planned this, it was obviously an attack on tourists, people not only from this pa rt tourists, people not only from this part of the world the right around the world to come to barcelona and see what a beautiful city it is? the world to come to barcelona and see what a beautiful city it is7m is just see what a beautiful city it is7m isjust an see what a beautiful city it is7m is just an attack on freedom and people who want to live happy lives, i guess. it is important we have compassion for people around the world. not everyone is bad. it is important we carry on and keep on living the way we live. 13 killed, dozens injured, what are your feelings about the people who did this? devastating. how are you going to feel? it is on my street, where i live. i walk the street every day, i feel happy, vibra nt. live. i walk the street every day, i feel happy, vibrant. it is devastating. very sad. and you will just be carrying on with life as normal? of course. it is a bit of a shock, you don't expect it on your
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doorstep, but if you don't, what are you going to do? stay at home all day like a recluse? you had to keep on living life. thank you very much for being with us, eneko de marcus. no worries, thank you very much. take care. let's talk to somebody else who witnessed what happened in las ramblas yesterday. scott strudwick canjoin las ramblas yesterday. scott strudwick can join us. can you tell us strudwick can join us. can you tell us what you saw? show. we were in the main placa de catalunya. we came out from a large department store to be greeted by police sirens. we were heading towards las ramblas to then catch bus back, at which point we suddenly noticed lots of people running in the opposite direction. then police were pushing us away, pushing people into shops and trying to close the doors behind them. we we re to close the doors behind them. we were tied into the large department
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store that we were originally in. that is where from our point of view we did not know what was going on at that point, once we got back into the shop, shortly after that we had our scariest moment. we were on the second floor of the shop and people came running through the shop, we later found that there was a rumour that had been gunfire and potentially a terrorist in the shop, which turned out to be false but they did not know that at that point. we did not really understand what was happening because we did not speak spanish, which is probably a blessing in hindsight. the panic was quite infectious, we were driven back to the back of the shop. we went into a hairdressing salon and we re went into a hairdressing salon and were put into a small storage cupboard at the end, many people we re cupboard at the end, many people were crammed in. it was very frightening, lots of people crying and upset. we were very confused. we had two young children, it was very frightening for them. how long was it before you realised exactly what was unfolding, that
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this was a terror attack? we did not know at that point, we obviously had strong suspicions. at that time we knew it must be some sort of terrorist attack but we did not have details. we were let out of the room, that was still confusion, we we re room, that was still confusion, we were assured out of an emergency ex backin were assured out of an emergency ex back in an emergency exit, then they locked the shop down. at that point we could use our phones to get onto social media etc and had a better understanding of what was going on, but as you can appreciate even at that point the details were sketchy and false details were coming through as well. obviously all the people around you we re obviously all the people around you were absolutely terrified ? obviously all the people around you were absolutely terrified? yes, initially particularly after the incident in the shop lots of very upset people were crying, things calm down. to be fair to the people in the shop they were very good at trying to calm people and reassure them, they had locked down the shop, but it was still a very tense and
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setting environment. looking out of the windows there was nobody in the street about point, just police. we did not have enough information to know what was going on at that point, especially as we did not speak spanish. we went to look at the television, there were lots of pictures and we started to understand what was going on. what was worrying was that at that point there was potentially a news announcement that there were two gunman that had stormed a restau ra nt, gunman that had stormed a restaurant, so you were really worried about how many potential terrorists were still milling around and whatever additional attacks might happen. what are your plans? what would you do? are you staying in barcelona? yes. after we were let out of the hotel we were ushered away by police quite quickly away from the main zone. the problem for us is that we did not know where we were. there we re did not know where we were. there were lots of people milling around, it took a good number of hours to
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eventually get into a taxi and get back to our hotel. things very much calm down when we were at the hotel, they were very good and laid on extra restaurant space because lots of people were not staying in the hotel. as this morning we have been looking at the new —— news and seen that have been further attacks and more going on. police are still finding stuff. that said, life seems to be returning to normal, i think people are fairly resilient. these sorts of attacks, people do not want them to get the better of them, they are trying to go on. we will be taking advice but our plans are to do pretty much what we were going to do pretty much what we were going to do yesterday, albeit we will be much more aware. and the thing is where we are now there is a large police attendance so we are hoping if anything it should make it more secure. thank you connor scott. being with us and thank you for your time, scott, talking to us about what happened here at las ramblas, right in the heart of barcelona.
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i've been talking to another eyewitness, richard greg, from da rtfo rd , eyewitness, richard greg, from dartford, in england, he was here, and he was caught up in the effort of what happened at las ramblas. people were running everywhere, we could not get anywhere near the apartment, which is parallel with where the van ended up, so we made our way through the back streets, filled with people at that time. we got onto las ramblas and people were running everywhere, we could not get anywhere near our apartment, which is literally parallel with where the van ended up, so we made our way through the back streets, which were filled with people at that time, panicking, really, the police
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also were in the back streets very quickly. las ramblas has numerous side alley ways, all the way up and down, literally flooded with police, on foot, on motorcycles, getting us off the street and clearly looking for someone, we now know... when we got back to our street we could see where the van had ended, bodies on the floor, we made our way back to our apartment as quickly as we could, we ended up within the police called in and could not leave the building, because the market place where a lot of the armed police were was literally behind our building. how long were you trapped there for? have you been able to go back? we stayed in the apartment for two or three hours, until we got the international news, nothing on the news for about 20 minutes, half an hour, we did not know the severity of what had happened apart from judging by the numbers of people running through the streets and the volume of police and helicopters overhead, so we knew it was fairly serious. we left the apartment at 9:30pm, to meet friends on the other side of barcelona, check they were all ok, the whole city was fairly quiet, fairly subdued,
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normally you would expect barcelona to be buzzing at this time of year. obviously everyone is now very on edge. i spose, if you had been walking down las ramblas a few minutes earlier, you could have been caught up in the attack. we would have been where the van ended up had we been two minutes earlier, that is where we were headed. we are really grateful that we were just two minutes behind where the attack happened. you are on holiday here, are you staying, despite what happened ? we are staying until monday, taking it day by day, seeing how things go. it was obviously... we were freaked out last night, and on edge, we feel a little bit calmer today, as you have mentioned, las ramblas is getting back to some semblance of normality, as lots of people down there, stalls opening back up, we feel fairly reassured by the volume of police, and the security service response. we are intending to stay. but you are a bit shaken? a little bit shocked,
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a little bit on edge, has not really sunk in, the first, sort of ten minutes after the attack it was all fairly surreal, half the crowds were running and screaming away, the other half had no clue what was happening at all, just standing around, looking, wondering what is going on. so it was all a bit surreal for the first bit, and then once it became clear what was happening, that is when it starts to sink in. when we saw people on the floor being tended to by emergency services we suddenly realise the severity of the situation. we were very concerned last night, until they had arrested anyone, because we did not know where anybody was, now, we hear that the driver is probably still not apprehended. that leaves a little bit of apprehension, worried, about where we are going to go tonight, what we are going to do today, we want to stay insecure places. —— we want to stay in secure places.
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there has been a string of these vehicle attacks across europe, including london, did you realise pretty quickly that that is probably what it was, when you saw everybody running? we realised, when the first tourist was shouting out that people had been hit, we thought perhaps it was just a tragic car accident, by the time we saw the volume of police and we could see that there was the van there and bodies on the floor, we guessed pretty quickly that this was some form of deliberate attack. richard greg, british eyewitness to what was happening in barcelona,
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from dartford in kent, telling us what the saw and heard. these are life pictures. flowers and wreaths have been laid there, candles have been that as well for the people coming, laying flowers, lighting candles. standing in silent reflection, to pay their respects, and think about the 13 who have lost their lives. in that horrific attack. dozens and dozens who have been inches from many different countries, more than 20 different countries, more than 20 different countries, we are hearing. —— who have been injured. some of them critically ill in hospital. a statement we have heard from the cata la n statement we have heard from the catalan president," we have two remain an and welcoming society, he said he wanted to appeal for normality because changing our way of being would be a triumph of
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terrorism, and he called for trust and hope in the police forces who say that they are well prepared. that statement from carles puigdemont. that is a reference to the police action in cambrils,100 kilometres from here, seaside town, another terror attack using a vehicle, driven into pedestrians. police opened fire very quickly and shot dead five terror suspects, in cambrils. that is the latest from barcelona. very shortly there will bea barcelona. very shortly there will be a minutes silence, where people can pay their respects to the dead and remember the dead, a minutes silence. flags flying at half—mast, right across spain, after this dreadful attack, and in downing street, we understand, in solidarity. back to the studio in london. we will have the latest from
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barcelona. bringing back in here, director of covenant security and risk management, former member of the uk national counterterrorism security office, with us throughout the morning. security issues arising from this, and protection going forward , from this, and protection going forward, also, lead, the latest from the spanish authorities, they believe there may have been eight people involved in a cell that carried out the attack in barcelona, in terms of arrests and suspected attackers dead, three arrests have been made, five are dead, what will been made, five are dead, what will be going on to try to make sure they can piece together the numbers involved in each separate incident as far as they understand it, and the figures involved in each one marrying up between different incidents. there will be a number of actions as part of the initial investigation, one of the main things is to confirm that if this was a coordinated cell working
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together, is that everybody accounted for? do we have the three suspects in custody and those that have been shot, anybody else still out there, potentially the first driver at las ramblas, the five killed later on, or is he still to be found ? that killed later on, or is he still to be found? that would be part of the initial thing, do we have everybody caught up in this. at the same time running alongside this, discussing with colleagues from other countries, information sharing, trying to get as much information about these individuals as possible, possibly even confirming their identities, they may not have paperwork with them, fair bit of work to be going on. as well as that, looking at overall security within barcelona and the surviving areas but also, the frenzied recovery at the seams... not just the collection of the vehicles but where it took place, especially with the second attack, fiercely firearms involved as well. a number of immediate action. —— obviously
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firearms involved as well. a name and a face was put out there pretty quickly, they may have been involved, because the person that hired the car use his documents, driss 0ukabir, he handed himself in to police quite quickly, that is him, he realised his face was in the media, he says he was not involved, 70 miles away, he believed, potentially, his brother had stolen his documents to hire the van. if thatis his documents to hire the van. if that is the case, that seems like an usual situation, doesn't it, that is the case, that seems like an usualsituation, doesn't it, if that is the case, that seems like an usual situation, doesn't it, if you wa nt to usual situation, doesn't it, if you want to steal documents to hire a van, doing it this way has led the police directly back on the potentially, to the person... very high risk tactics for them to undertake, identified at the time as stolen documents, or fiercely, undertake, identified at the time as stolen documents, orfiercely, the plan is there and then, that leads me to think, the incident on
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thursday night disrupted whatever plans they had in place. —— obviously. and this is plan b. the incident at the house, and this is plan b, looking at a vehicle, and looking at las ramblas at that time in the evening. for them, in their eyes, it is a good choice of timing. what does not quite fit in yet is the timing, 1am, for the second attack, or was it that they were travelling through to someone else, 1am, using a vehicle, there is not really many around at that time of day. on that, the cambrils attack, there was a report that what happened was that the car was stopped at a police checkpoint, the police realised there were armed men inside the car, they gave chase, the car overturned, and presumably in the chase, people were hit, when the men got out of the car, that was when they were shot dead. but the reports are also that it was not
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that way, that there was an attack underway and the police got involved quite quickly. it is still unclear exactly what happened, it was an unusual time, early hours of the morning. things not quite adding up with the second incident still. the checkpoint story, would make more sense,in checkpoint story, would make more sense, in terms of the actual police response and their timing to it. obviously, the other account, pure coincidence paps, that they happen to attack that area and the police happened to be there, also significant, when we look at the footage, the controlled shots fired by the police, not a sporadic exchange of gunfire, obviously clear time shots in there, completely different scenario, i would not be surprised if they did appear at a checkpoint and tried to rush through, hence the immediate pursuit. reported that the cia warned the spanish authorities two months ago that las ramblas was a
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target, we don't know how they responded to the warning but in terms of protecting somewhere like las ramblas, popular areas in any other cities, what can be done?‘ couple of interesting points, the cia sharing information would add up to some of the initial report, local saying that there had been an increase in police presence in las ramblas over the last week or so, that adds weight to that account, what is also interesting, on the map of las ramblas, where you see the vehicle enter, in the pedestrian i would be interested to see what measures are in place to stop vehicles entering a pedestrian zone. there are plans in place for places like oxford street, do we make it pedestrianised at certain times of the day, when we have a high volume of footfall. we will never be able to roll out completely the use of vehicles to attack people, there are ways to mitigate it but how do we
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respond, we saw an effective response yesterday as we did on london bridge. thank you very much, lead, and we will go to the foreign office now, our correspondent there, more than 20 countries citizens caught up in the events in barcelona. any reports yet of any british people involved ? barcelona. any reports yet of any british people involved? the foreign office urgently seeking information, and working with the spanish local authorities to try to establish if any british nationals are involved, we have not been given any information, they have issued advice, four travelling to and from barcelona and cambrils, they say that if you are in those areas, take care, they also say that you should follow the advice of local authorities, and if you are safe, they are urging people to contact family and friends through social media rather than the helpline that has been issued by spanish authorities because they are having some problems with that and
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hopefully it will be up and running shortly. it is thought that more than 12 million british visit spain throughout the year and because it is mid—august and summertime, more than a million british people are in spain on holiday, most of them in the results around the mediterranean, some of them would be in barcelona or cambrils. is there any updated travel guidance? we have a statement from british airways who says customers due to travel to and from barcelona in the coming days are being offered a range of options if they want to bring forward has blown their travel plans. the uk's biggest operator to barcelona, easyjet, says any passengers not wishing to travel on flights to war from barcelona in the next 48 hours can change their flights with no charge fee. p&o ferries say they will monitor the situation and keep in contact with
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the spanish authorities on what they do. as far as we know there are no black hairy journeys do. as far as we know there are no black hairyjourneys to and from barcelona this weekend. take you very much. -- as far as we know there are no plan to ferryjourneys to and from barcelona. just to show you what is going on behind us and pla ca you what is going on behind us and placa de catalu nya, you what is going on behind us and placa de catalunya, catalonia square, at the end of las ramblas. people are gathering in large numbers because there will be a minute's silence at the top of the hour, where people will remember the 13 who lost their lives and the many dozens who were injured in the van attack as it was driven down las ramblas. there are security checks as they walk in and bag searches, but i think people from barcelona and tourists from around the world who are in this city now wants to come and pay respects to those who have lost their lives. also on las ramblas, flowers being laid in
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memory of the dead, candles being lit, reefs have been laid. very much a sombre mood, as you would expect, but the president of catalonia has said life is to return to normal to show that terrorism will not be allowed to succeed and that the terrorists will not win. according to the authorities here a terror cell odds are made people was behind the van attack in which the white van was driven from this square half a kilometre down las ramblas at high speed. weaving in and out of pedestrians, deliberately swerving into them on the pavements, killing 13 and injuring about 100. many of them are still in hospital. overnight in the town of cambrils around 100 kilometres from here, a popular seaside town, there was a second vehicle attack in which a car was driven up pedestrians as well. seven were injured. fitzroy davis is
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a british man from wolverhampton who was there at the time, this is what he told me. we were sitting in a bar by the front, and some girls just ran in, scared, and then fear on their faces, and so one of the guys jumped up and had a look, see what was going on, and then people started running past us, and then one of the guys said, "run!" and we came out of the bar and i was standing on the street, and i got my phone out, because i saw this guy come running towards me. and then i started filming. first, somebody said, "call the police." within 20, 30 seconds, the police turned up, then they drew their guns, shouting something to the guy. and then next thing i know there were shots fired. he went down, and within two seconds he stood back up, then he stepped over a fence, then he came walking to the police, he was smiling, he was laughing at them,
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and they shot him again and then he fell down. and people might be amazed that you would just film that. were you aware of what was going to unfold as you started filming? not until the police turned up, and it was only when the police turned up with their guns drawn then i realised, this is serious. and then when the first shots were fired, in one mind people were shouting me to come on and go, and in the other mind, the adrenaline was in there and i thought, i'lljust carry on filming, so that's what i did. life here in barcelona, this is the scene you can see life here in barcelona, this is the scene you can see behind me, people
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in their droves wanting to come to pla ca in their droves wanting to come to placa de catalu nya in their droves wanting to come to placa de catalunya where the attack began, this is where there would be a minute's silence in 20 odd minutes' time. a chance for people to pay their respects, to remember those who lost their lives here yesterday. many innocent tourists looking at one of the great tourist attractions of barcelona, one of the great tourist attractions of the world. anybody who comes to barcelona wants to come to las ramblas, it was packed yesterday afternoon just before 5pm local time when the van swerved down las ramblas at high speed for about half a kilometre, ploughing into people. we have been hearing from various senior politicians in catalonia and spain saying life has to return to normal, terrorism cannot be allowed to win. we have heard from francesco marcus vasquez, a member of congress here. if we are looking for absolute
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security, it is very difficult to achieve that. we try to protect ourselves, not only in spain but in all of our european countries we have very professional law enforcement agencies and very professional police officers. and we cannot get something like absolute security. it appears that the terror cell, if that's what was, behind this attack on las ramblas, according to the authorities, may have been eight strong. eight people in that cell. and another in cambrils, where there was a police shoot out yesterday after another vehicle attack, those five terror suspects killed. if there were a network, if you like, of one terror cell in barcelona, another in cambrils, it seems they we re another in cambrils, it seems they were not at all on the radar of the authorities of the police, and that will be very worrying. we know there have been three arrests in connection with the van attack,
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although the driver of the van that killed so many people here in las ramblas got out of the van and fled on foot, people hunting for him very ha rd on foot, people hunting for him very hard indeed. back to you in the studio, joanna. more from ben later. earlier ben spoke to an eyewitness who said he was caught up in the stampede of people. i was having a coffee, as is my normal routine. it was about 4:30pm, i waited a while. at five minutes to five there was a noise, the next thing you know, coming from the next thing you know, coming from the bottom of the street, a stampede of thousands of people just running and running and running. of course, it was a dead giveaway that something was wrong. we turned the corner where the restaurant cafe is. we were locked into another cafe for about three others, no one gave this information. things were filtering through about they have taken
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hostages at another restaurant in las ramblas, it was chaos, children crying, women crying. i was quite relaxed because obviously i had not seen relaxed because obviously i had not seen the van. after three and a half hours they let us go, the police made us walk past the street that goes up the street here. as we got to the cordoned off area there was another band, like a noise, police started running in and everyone panicked, there was another stampede. at that point i was not going to stick around, i ran for my life. it was just chaos. going to stick around, i ran for my life. it wasjust chaos. how long was it before you realised it was a terror attack, a vehicle had been used on people had been killed. obviously we do not know if it as terrorism or somebody who is crazy or something. it took about half an hour to figure out what was going on. we were asking people who ran into the restaurant we were locked in what was happening, they did not know, they were in shock and crying. it was quite harrowing, to be
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honest. people absolutely terrified, running for their lives? yes, it was pandemonium. the police cordoned off everything, it was impossible to get home. people who lived in this area we re home. people who lived in this area were just stuck. if you wanted to get to your safe place at home you had to stick around and hope that the suspect or whatever were apprehended without problems. the suspect or whatever were apprehended without problemslj the suspect or whatever were apprehended without problems. i went to -- apprehended without problems. i went to--i apprehended without problems. i went to -- i went to the ones in apprehended without problems. i went to —— i went to the ones in london when i was young, it is important to get back to the normal routine, people going back to doing what they do. it is sad for me, honestly, it is an isolated incident but in other places around the world it happens ona places around the world it happens on a daily basis and we need to help them more. it happens once here, it is small scale and we are all panicking, it happens places around the world at ten or 20 times the scale. it is important to get back to normal routine, keep doing the
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things we do, go to the places we go to. barcelona is an amazing city, please come and visit, it is beautiful. las ramblas is such a tourist destination, anyone who comes to barcelona comes here? anyone and everyone. my friends are here two days ago and left on sunday, i am so glad they are ok. it is the place to be. iconic streets, people selling, it is vibrant, it is alive. it is a bit ofa is vibrant, it is alive. it is a bit of a shock that it happened to us. the people behind this, and we are hearing that might have been a terror cell are eight people, it was an attack on tourists, not only from this part of the world that right around the world to come to barcelona to see what a beautiful city it is? i guess it isjust an attack on freedom and people who wa nt to attack on freedom and people who want to live happy lives. it is important we have compassion against people around the world. not eve ryo ne people around the world. not everyone is bad. it is important we
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carry on and keep on living the way we live. 13 people killed, dozens injured, what are your feelings about those who did this? devastating, how are you going to feel? it is on my street where i live, i walk the street every day and feel happy and vibrant, it is devastating. sad, very sad. you will be carrying on with life as normal now? of course. the first... it is a bit of a shock and you do not expect it on your doorstep, but if you don't, are your doorstep, but if you don't, are you going to stay at home all day like a recluse? you have to keep on living life. one eyewitness talking to ben earlier. we have had the name of the first person named in the attack in barcelona, 13 killed, the first person has been named by his company asa person has been named by his company as a victim of the attack. it is the
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italian branch of the company ton—plus mac hardware, saying that employee bruno has been killed on las ramblas where he was on holiday with his partner and two children. —— the company tom's hard way. the spanish prime minister mariano rajoy has announced three days of mourning for the attack. these are the latest pictures that we have of him. is obviously having high—level talks in the aftermath of these three separate but linked attacks, the attack in barcelona, the subsequent attack on cabrillo ‘s and also the house explosion just about 100 miles away from barcelona on wednesday night which is now believed to be significantly linked to what is unfolded since the house
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exploded, the house was completely destroyed in a huge explosion. there we re destroyed in a huge explosion. there were gas canisters in the house and the authorities now think those gas canisters were intended for use in barcelona. at midday local time there will be a minute's silence in barcelona to remember the victims of the attack. these are live pictures from las ramblas now of flowers being laid as people go to las ramblas to remember the victims of the attack yesterday afternoon. candles being lit and lots of tributes laid. las ramblas returning to being the very busy thoroughfare that it is. obviously the mood today is very different, holiday—makers are out in huge numbers —— were out in huge numbers yesterday when the band zigzagged along that very popular tourist area
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and killed 13 and injured many more. 80 injured in that attack, at least. they are preparing to remember the victims with a minute's silence at midday. there are three days of national mourning in spain. the spanish and british flags are being flown at half—mast in downing street. the question is now after the two vehicle attacks is can they be prevented ? vehicle attacks is can they be prevented? in just over a year europe has seen seven attacks were vehicles have been used as weapons. security correspondent gordon corera looks at what the authorities are doing. a threat, but he talked of buying guns... and this is where it ended up, in flames after... my wife, my friend and i... 10pm. this white van had run down... sirens. here at westminster bridge, they have installed these barriers to stop vehicles running into pedestrians on the bridge.
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but an attacker could just pick a different crowded place. the authorities are also looking at things like more checks on people making short notice rentals of vans, but the problem is, these attacks require just everyday items. just a car, no guns or explosives. and with so little planning required, it can be hard to spot them and stop them. new shock absorbing barriers like this one shown in a test may offer some protection. but counterterrorism experts caution they cannot stop all attacks happening. earlier i spoke to an expert on radicalism and security in madrid. i asked him how much of a hub barcelona is for radicalisation? the mainfour points,
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barcelona is for radicalisation? the main four points, there is a place in the north of morocco, barcelona, madrid and another city. barcelona is properly the second largest city in radicalisation in spain and in these last two years we have been suffering a huge amount of counterterrorism operations. and now one of the rested individuals might be from one of the cities. we could say that barcelona is the second city in radicalisation, probably one of the biggest in the catalan areas. tell us more about the operations in the city. we know that in advance of this attack there was a warning from the cia backed las ramblas was potentially a target? what has been going on to try to prevent attacks? exactly, from last year, there has been seven operations in the first
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half of 2017. we can see an increase in operations by the police, however, we have not managed to focus on all the radicalisation pubs in the cities. it is one of the biggest places with muslim population. what are the suspicions around how individuals are radicalised, how it may be operating? bestial forces are focused on three main environments, where we can find the radicalisation processes in spain, one is the local one, you have to bear in mind, two factors, that play a very important role in the radicalisation process, one is the links with family and friends, or religious chief, that
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radicalised is, and the other ones are connections with social patterns. many of these people travel through those hubs, madrid, barcelona. most importantly, these cases, online radicalisation, cyberspace. as we saw yesterday, in barcelona, and the attacks, fake explosives that they are wearing, it is something that you read on islamist web pages. message boards. taking information from all of those areas. let's ta ke
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let's take you live to the placa de catalu nya, let's take you live to the placa de catalunya, in let's take you live to the placa de catalu nya, in barcelona, let's take you live to the placa de catalunya, in barcelona, it is where a minute ‘s silence is going to be held at midday local time, and large number of people gathered to mark the minute silence, king philip —— king philippe and others will be marking it. and the second incident, in which is five gunmen were shot dead by the authorities, happened overnight in cambrils, a town, south of barcelona. —— king felipe. it is thought that a second attack, potentially along the lines of the barcelona attack, was aborted. security forces intercepted a car
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that had armed men in it, also wearing fake suicide belts, it seems, seven injured, seven injured when that car was driven into them. the car overturned in a police chase and police shot dead five men from inside that car, also separately three men in custody after the attack on barcelona, these attacks separate but linked. investigators now trying to work out how many people were behind these attacks. eight involved, that is the scene live in barcelona, just at the top end of las ramblas, placa de catalu nya, end of las ramblas, placa de catalunya, is where they are preparing to hold a minutes silence. also three days of mourning that has been declared by the government of catalu nya. scott strudwick is on holiday, he
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ended up on las ramblas as the attack began, and he spoke with us a little earlier. we were in placa de catalu nya, we came little earlier. we were in placa de catalunya, we came out from a large department store, to be greeted by police sirens, we were heading towards us rambus, to catch the bus back, at which point we noticed lots of people running in the opposite direction, and then police were pushing us away, pushing people into shops, trying to close the doors. we retired into the large department store that we were originally in. we did not know what was going on at that point, but once we got back into the shop, shortly after that is where we had the scariest moment, on the seventh floor of the shop, people came running through the shop, we later found people came running through the shop, we laterfound out people came running through the shop, we later found out there was a rumour that there had been gunfire
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ina shop, rumour that there had been gunfire in a shop, turned out to be full. we did not speak spanish, that was probably a blessing in hindsight, the panic was quite infectious. we we re the panic was quite infectious. we were driven to the back of the shop, then the hairdressing salon, and we we re then the hairdressing salon, and we were put into a small hairdressing closet, a lot of people crying, lots of people very upset, we were very upset because we did not know what was going on, it was very frightening for the children we were with. how long before you realise what was unfolding and this was a terror attack. we did not know at that point, we had strong suspicions, after that incident we knew there must be some sort of terror attack but we did not have any details. there was still confusion, we were ushered out of the emergency exit and then ushered backin the emergency exit and then ushered back in and then they locked down
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the shop, we were able to use our phones at that point, to get onto social media, we had a better understanding of what was going on. even at that point, the details were sketchy. false details coming through. all the people around you we re through. all the people around you were absolutely terrified. initially, there was a lot of upset people, things calmed down, to be fairto people, things calmed down, to be fair to the people in the shop, they we re very fair to the people in the shop, they were very good at coming people down. they locked down the shop, very tense and upsetting environment, nobody in the streets at that time, just some police, we really did not have enough information to know what was going on at that point, especially since we did not speak spanish, we went to the seventh floor, looks at the television, lots of pictures going on, then we began to understand what was going on. there was potentially a news announcement that there was
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two gunmen. potential terrorists milling around, additional attacks might happen. what are your plans now, are you staying in barcelona? after we were let out of the hotel, we we re after we were let out of the hotel, we were ushered away by police, quite quickly, away from the main zone, the problem was, we did not know where we were, a lot of people milling around, took us a good number of hours, to eventually get into a taxi and get back to a hotel. then things calmed down, the hotel was very then things calmed down, the hotel was very good, laying on extra restau ra nt was very good, laying on extra restaurant space, because a lot of people were staying in the hotel. as of this morning, we have been looking on the news, further attacks, police still finding stuff, that said, looking out at this stage, life seems to be returning to normal, people are fairly resilient, this sort of attack, people do not
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wa nt this sort of attack, people do not want them to get the better of them. we will be taking advice but our plan will be to do what we were going to do yesterday, albeit, we will be much more aware. the thing is, where we are now, there is a large police attendance, so we are hoping, if anything, large police attendance, so we are hoping, ifanything, it large police attendance, so we are hoping, if anything, it should make it more secure. that is one eyewitness, let's show you the scene live in barcelona where they are preparing to remember the victims of the attacks with a minutes silence at midday local time, you can see a large crowd gathered there, among them, the spanish king, and members of the government as well. bringing you right up to date with the latest developments, three separate incidents being looked at. in wednesday, a house was completely destroyed in a large explosion, that
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was 100 miles away from barcelona, in alcanar, and at the time it did not seem to be linked to anything else but subsequently, the barcelona attack happening yesterday, in which 13 people were killed in a van attack, that was then believed to be linked, potentially to what happened in alcanar because the authorities now believe they were planning some sort of devices, that may have been used, intended to be used in barcelona. 13 dead in barcelona, dozens injured, three arrested after the attack, and separately, in cambrils, which is around 50 miles from barcelona, a coastal town, several people injured after a car was driven into them. —— seven injured. five men wearing fake suicide belts and arm were shot dead. we are awaiting the minutes silence in barcelona, injures the next few minutes. also, three days
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of national mourning have been declared. we are going to keep you right up to date with all the latest details, we will be live with ben brown shortly, we will leave you now with some of the dramatic images from the past 24—hour was in spain. —— the past 24—hours. you join us live in the heart of barcelona, placa de catalunya, catalonia square, where as you can see, huge crowds have now gathered behind me. about to be a minutes silence, in memory of those who have died in the terror attack here at las ramblas, just next to placa de catalu nya, las ramblas, just next to placa de catalunya, 13 las ramblas, just next to placa de catalu nya, 13 died las ramblas, just next to placa de catalunya, 13 died and dozens injured, and in cambrils, the early hours of the morning, another terror attack, a car driven into pedestrians, seven injured there,
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including a police officer. people wa nted including a police officer. people wanted to come here to the heart of barcelona, the king of spain you, among other dignitaries... there has been applause for him... and really, people here determined to make a show in barcelona that terrorism will not win, that they welcome back out onto the street ‘s, they will d efy out onto the street ‘s, they will defy the terrorists is, who have tried to tear their lives apart, here in barcelona, and also in cambrils, where five terror suspects we re cambrils, where five terror suspects were shot dead in the early hours of this morning. there will now be one minutes silence as barcelona falls silent in memory of those killed and injured.
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