asimilar a similar modus operandi from the past. yes, what can i say? it is a second—generation, young men committing these things, obviously radicalised, alienated, not surprisingly it happened in barcelona. it was obviously going to bea barcelona. it was obviously going to be a key target. there are rumours ofa be a key target. there are rumours of a cia warning to spain, we do not know if we were true or not but in a place like las ramblas, there is clearly a potential target beer and there is a bit of a surprise that they were able to drive for 500 metres down las ramblas. another soft target, we see it time and again. yes, and after nice i said that that sort of thing should not have ca rs that that sort of thing should not have cars allowed because it was a similar situation. the promenade. basically there is very little to tell you other than that we have to count on the muslim community to pick up these guys in the mosques

and tell the police and also, i think we have to do better work at integrating the young muslim men who seem integrating the young muslim men who seem to be forgotten about in a multicultural society. well, the hunt is continuing the belief or at least one more member, we will see what develops in the days ahead. before that, there was much focus as we have reflected here many times on brexit. so, the next round of formal brexit talks begin later this month. to that end, the british government released its position paper this week about its ambitions for ireland and particularly the border. the prime minister theresa may was adamant about the need to maintain an open border between northern ireland and the republic when the uk leaves the customs union, allowing easy movement for both people and goods, much as it exists today. but the european commission swiftly retorted that frictionless trade wasn't possible outside the single market.

in a moment we'll discuss whether the position paper has thrown up more questions than answers... what do you think, adam? i am afraid we are still in the delusional state in this country, this two papers are at least some advanced towards reality, but, for instance, the brexit secretary david davis said that the talks with europe were going incredibly well. they are not. they are going incredibly badly. fundamental dishonesty amongst the politicians in this country exists, the cabinet is split three ways, we are any bad hole. it is only going to bea are any bad hole. it is only going to be a question of time before this is revealed in the british public realise they have been sold a total pub. what happens then, goodness only knows but i think this two papers, at least, there is a traditional deal acceptance, that is important, because the idea of marching off the cliff face would be a disaster for everyone

marching off the cliff face would be a disasterfor everyone in this country, not just for country, notjust for business but for ordinary working people as well. we are slowly moving towards reality but my goodness, the europeans are correct when they see we are still in neverland. many business leaders have said that this paper gives us clarity and we know that business—like certainty, but it does not get to the heart about what we do with the customs union. there will be an agreement on the eu citizens, there will be an agreement oi'i citizens, there will be an agreement on ireland. the two diminishes as the devolved bill, that will be the big issue, especially trade, because the british want to have everything, they want to negotiate trade deals before they have left of the european union, that is impossible. the situation is that the european union is very strong and united, 27 strong and the british are divided. so the clock is ticking. absolutely!

at the clock is ticking and we have lost one year because of the political situation in britain and the british government is any weak position because it is divided, and adam said, and political divin —— political opinion and business opinion is also divided. stephanie. i think business is united comparatively speaking, certainly compared to the cabinet and i think this week finally number ten has come up with policy proposals but they picked the two most difficult issues, customs and northern ireland. it is definitely a victory for the businesses saying we need a transition period, but it seems what they are proposing is notjust short on details but very unrealistic that the uk would be out of the single market and out of the customs union but we'd be able to negotiate a

similar relationship that is close to resembling what we have at the moment. all the while not having any of the obligations of freedom of movement are paying into the eu budget. it sounds great, but why would the eu agree to any of that? the hint and this is that they will have some great new it system that will be a magical solution to solving these problems. i have spoken to consultants that have said that actually that is far off, it is very costly, many years to go before it becomes a reality. so what they are proposing i think it's unrealistic and on top of that, i would tell you that actually, the customs union is only part of the problem. people forget that the british economy, 80% of it is involved in services, that is not affected by this. the big prize at the end of the day is if they can get a deal on services to protect the british economy. get a deal on services to protect the british economyli get a deal on services to protect the british economy. i woke up the other day listening to the brexit

secretary, david davis, speaking about how ambiguity is deliberate, the lack of clarity is a good thing, andl the lack of clarity is a good thing, and i felt, i was not around in 1947 when britain was leaving india, but my grandparents, my payments' generation, would probably have recognised the brexit chaos. at that time there was a much shorter turnaround of time, there was a great lack of information provided, in fact, lord mountbatten, the last viceroy to india, he did not allow the new borders of india and pakistan to be announced until after independent states were declared. at that time you could see that perhaps that time you could see that perhaps thatis that time you could see that perhaps that is ok because at least the british had to worry or not worry about all of those natives, millions of indians and the new country of pakistan. but the confusion that has

been created here and the polarisation that is allowed because of the lack of information, you wonder why britain would want to do that to themselves, it is their own future we are playing with. because 5296 future we are playing with. because 52% of the population voted for it and plenty watching this programme will believe that things are not going terribly, things are going as they should, this is what they voted for, this is what they want. the lack of information, so when did you read that 759 international trade agreements and deals have to be negotiated by britain right after brexit. the other day you have read that there is no reason to have any import tariffs at all, let us go off and buy oranges cheaper from south africa and buy from tunisia because the eu levy will be very heavy import tariffs on this. it will be fine. perhaps there is a bit of this and that but it could lower the temperature if the government use some of the information it is

getting and provided it to people to allow them to test the limits of politics as decent and responsive citizens. the government has fundamentally disagreed, you mentioned 52% voted, we don't do that, but the latest ipsos mori poll published by the economists suggest that three quarters of the people believe that britain is the incorrect path. that does not mean that they want to get out, there is no means that that is the clear situation and they are not suggesting that if there was a referendum tomorrow that people would change their minds. public opinion is extremely fluid and very, very uncertain and the divisions in the cabinet, to some extent, reflect that. no one really knows where they are, the politicians, frankly, i do not meet a great case forjournalist but we can rightly or wrongly speak honestly. many of the politicians cannot speak honestly because they do not want to do that because they are too frightened because they do not know which way it is all going.

we are left in the hands of these characters, liam fox, david davis... borisjohnson as well. i personally have very little confidence in them at each wheel to negotiate our way in this difficult task. partly at a time when the european union is doing extremely well, the euro is high, germany and france are relaunching their politics. it looks like on the one hand you have britain which cannot get a position and the european union which goes forward with or without britain. adam, you said earlier, it is not going well, it is going badly. actually, to what extent does any of us actually, to what extent does any of us know that? does anyone go into a negotiation, you do not put all of your cards on the table, did you? that is a process. it looked like they were behind schedule, now it knows that the trade talks in october could be delayed until

december. they are behind schedule. yes, in terms of the timetable perhaps. on social media and the bad tempers and develin telling us that they won't brexit reversed or not diverse, i think a lot of this has been created because people do not know. there will be trade—offs, for some people who want to leave the european union it is fine, there will be trade—offs. some people will be worse off in some ways but better off in other ways. but at least let the people know. uk government is going to be trusted enough to be not thought of as giving alternative facts. brexit will take place at the end of the day. i love the idea that marc says that all 27 are wonderful. it is for the birds, you wait, the divisions are not good. that is the typical british idea. we are united

to resist the british proposal. you might be right on that. to return to the specific point of ireland which is what the position paper was about. stephanie is correct to say that this is one of the greatest areas in the negotiations, isn't it? and it ties of the problem of britain wanting to bring down emigration but if you do not have a ha rd emigration but if you do not have a hard border it could be risky in terms of people smuggling, all important issues. yes, there could be the problem that we will have a frontier that is fluid and not well policed because you will have smugglers, terrorists, traffickers of humans who will be able to go into the... the irish effectively have a veto. frankly, as the proposals put forward by the british government or whatever, unless they are acceptable to the irish government, it will be difficult for the eu to agree to them. so, i suspect that is one of the most

difficult issues to resolve. i personally believe the money is not a huge thing, we will be paying billions anyway. and the divorce bill. but the trade and ireland, those are the key issues and frankly, we remain in the divisional series in this country. especially having a government with the defence of the union is for survival and the union has an agenda and ireland which is different from dublin. union has an agenda and ireland which is different from dublinm seems like everyone wants the same thing which is no hard border, but how did you get there? it seems like an external border to the eu, there will have to be checks on goods going to and from, whether that is a virtual border or not. people might be the easiest part of it but you already have french farmers talking about concerns about that being a back door route into the eu for agricultural produce. chicken from the united states! there is

something to look forward to! we can agree that the island issue is very difficult regarding brexit and we know more and more about this. well, the british government talks confidently about doing trade with nations outside the eu — india being one of the key markets — and this week, of course, saw india mark its 70th year of independence. rashmee, how are relations between london and delhi at the moment? polite. i know that sounds drizzly bloodless and without passion, but perhaps that is not a bad thing. because, you know, there has been over the passage of time for both countries the relationship has the equation to evolve into a steady relationship, of mutual respect and all of that. that sounds quite diplomatic. bear in mind we're talking about the 70th anniversary,

70 asa talking about the 70th anniversary, 70 as a birthday is not particularly momentous, it is not life—changing, it is not likely 21st or a 50th or a75, or 100, it is not likely 21st or a 50th or a75, or100, so you it is not likely 21st or a 50th or a75, or 100, so you have to look at the passage of time or closely and see where we are. i think it would describe the relationship as currently made up of the skull cars and the scoffers. the day after the brexit referendum occurred injune 2016, their birdies mark hughes who said watching britain partition itself, let them feel the same pain of division that had brought itself to the subcontinent, let us see what happens to that. so there was a bit of the delight that was being taken at the predicament of britain. the scoffers will say that britain is this distant connection, because in seven times removed or whatever. it's only cultural relevance now is cricket and tea and the fact that

there is a feeding fondness for pg woodhouse, his writing and all of that. i do not think that is where we are, i think we should let the events of the past be in the history books but let them be any history books. in other words, books but let them be any history books. in otherwords, let books but let them be any history books. in other words, let britain teach that history, contextualise it. as for trade, i do not think that is happening any time soon and the reason is that indians, just like other members of the commonwealth, new zealand, australia, canada and so on, they wa nt to australia, canada and so on, they want to have mobility of people just as much as the mobility of cash and goods and investment and britain has shown itself to be rather unwilling. on that front. unwelcoming, is that what you think? yes, for example, foran what you think? yes, for example, for an indian to buy it to match your visa to come to britain that caused four times what it cost someone caused four times what it cost someone from china. indian students cannot study here or work here after the finish studying. they are not

allowed to come and. workers are not allowed. 30,000 indians were told that their work permits would not be renewed. there are issues and indian officials feel that quite strongly. if we're going to do well after brexit, do we need to be more welcoming as a nation, is this a key stumbling block in terms of trade?|j stumbling block in terms of trade?” think that india is a key test case as to whether britain can negotiate trade deals with other countries. india is not a major trading partner of the uk. it has a huge trade deficit with india, so doing a free—trade agreement with india is laura advantage to britain than it is to india. the biggest trading partner of india includes the us, china and germany is in the top ten. use angela merkel this week saying that she wants to restart the eu's

talks with india on its own trade and investment agreement. and so, from the indian perspective, what is more important, a trade deal with the uk or the eu? more important, a trade deal with the uk orthe eu? ithink that is self—explanatory. let us turn our attentions to the united states now. white house chief strategist steve bannon is the latest member of the trump administration to be fired at the end of a week in which the president's new chief of staff, john kelly, was photographed shaking his head and staring at the floor during a particularly chaotic news conference which centred on the violence in charlottesville, virginia. several commentators have described this week as a turning point. stephanie, do you think it is? no, ithink no, i think it is a sort of reality tv show. i do not know what the ending is but it is extraordinary, there has never been a presidency like it, i would rather doubt

whether we will ever be a presidency like it again. it is an extraordinary phenomena, the white house is in chaos, but you can fire any number of people like steve bannon and what have you and they have fired five people now, the lights of flynn and sara michie and whoever, but in the end, it is the president who is the problem and he is tweeting at four o'clock in the morning. he is a very odd character and you could say that he is a reality show tv man, which is what i normally see, or you could say that he isa normally see, or you could say that he is a property spec later that got lucky or not lucky. he is also a demigod of a politician but he has shown himself to be particularly inept politically but some of the state m e nts inept politically but some of the statements that he has been making, he obviously has no idea of how to manage men and women at all. so i have no idea what the outcome will be but i think the congressional elections which come mid term will be pretty horrific and the real

issue to me is, will republicans, at what stage will senior republicans say enough is enough? but that is the key point, isn't it? stephanie, what is your estimation? notjust the steve bannon thing, it is charlottesville, the steve bannon thing, it is cha rlottesville, the the steve bannon thing, it is charlottesville, the violence, the murder of a young women and that was the point at which quite a few strategist i spoke to over the course of reid said charlottesville is something different and in terms of the reaction of donald trump to this, this is a turning point, to reduce yet like that? many people have said that based on the things he has said previously and it has not turned up like that. i do think this is different. it took some time but you finally had two dozen republicans come out and criticise donald trump by name for his equivocal response to charlottesville. so i think that is significant. including business leaders. he has presided over an

unprecedented rift between corporate america and the white house after having built himself up as the business president and welcoming them into the white house. they have now all abandoned him and you even had last night the billionaire carl icon who had been supportive of him stepping down as his advisor on regulatory affairs. so i think this isa regulatory affairs. so i think this is a turning point and the caroline shearer is the legislative agenda is packed for the autumn and it is not just on, you know, ambitious proposals that are donald trump put forward for tax reform or infrastructure spending. i think those are very unrealistic now, given the political climate and how he has squandered his political capital. but things like getting a budget passed, raising the debt—ceiling, these are making sure there is not the government shutdown, these are big issues and the question is, will congress be

able to get its act together to pass those things to avert a shutdown of government, given the lack of leadership in the white house? and the divisions that exist? some people are worried that the departure of steve bannon means that there is no longer any points person for relations with congress and now with steve bannon out it is unclear how that will play out. he has made a big story out of the fact that he will wage war on anyone who gets in the way of the trump administration and that means house speaker paul ryan is on the line of fire and certainly the more moderate forces and the white house the lights of the economic adviser and the treasury secretary. steve bannon in some ways was also fighting, he said, the intense lobbying of government and himself being a former government banker. the goldman sachs lobby in the white house has now come to power and what

is good for them is not necessarily good for the us as we know from the financial crisis. i think that every bite is supposed to be the very worst week for the donald trump presidency, every week he is opposed done something that is so outrageous, this is the moment where everything will fall. i am not sure that that is actually true because he has still got an amazing amount of support in his base and that based, as adam will know from having cove red based, as adam will know from having covered the nixon presidency, even at the time that richard nixon was being investigated and things were really bad for him, he had equal level of about 25 or 27% support. so i think if there is that, i do not know what covered the congressmen are going to really be willing to do very much to the president, unless people discernibly split from him. and while that point even come? had a new centre are being created by

getting rid of a right—wing agenda? ido getting rid of a right—wing agenda? i do not know, we are seeing that in india, it is happening in hungary... do we reach a point where some republicans say this is damaging to the brand and the republican party, does it have to come down to that practical point? we are afraid of... the popular feeling practical point? we are afraid of... the popularfeeling has been... how do you fight the populist like donald trump or... ? do you fight the populist like donald trump or. . . ? it is notjust enough to be appalled by donald trump, you must have a positive agenda, another option. some good points have been made that the war base remains and would probably vote for him. the question is, does that road, frankly he will not be able to deliver on jobs road, frankly he will not be able to deliver onjobs in the rust belt, he cannot deliver onjobs

deliver onjobs in the rust belt, he cannot deliver on jobs and tax reform, at what stage is that we start to erode? i do not have a clue but personally, i am not as concerned by his averages statements of cha rlottesville, concerned by his averages statements of charlottesville, it is typically inept from him, but any sense, for the politically correct, it has really matter and that has really divided america and it has focused attention on his lack of political skills. in the end, so long as that core base remains, he probably will survive. you have of course the recession which with barack obama was turned around. we were told that was turned around. we were told that was no longer present but it has come back to the fore again with cha rlottesville come back to the fore again with charlottesville and black people having to face criticism. you almost feel like america is going back to a dark past. let us see what the coming days and

weeks bring on those stories. that's it. we're out of time. do watch next week, same time, same place. thanks for being with us, and goodbye. hello, to a certain extent it is the weather we have been getting used in august. a day of sunshine and showers and once again a rainbow caught by one of showers earlier. the showers will be fewer in number today. low—pressure present, project lead for scotland for the showers will be frequent this afternoon, some are heavy with hail and thunder, across the north—east of

scotland, better than yesterday. more sunshine and warm. northern ireland, england and wales, fewer showers for the afternoon, bigger gaps between them and some across the south and east avoid the showers altogether and any strong sunshine, temperatures reaching the low 20s. that breeze eases down further tonight, the showers continue for the north of the uk and the north of scotla nd the north of the uk and the north of scotland overnight but most other areas becoming dry, large clear skies, mist and fog patches but a cool night. if you're heading out camping tonight, take the sleeping bag, temperatures in scotland and england down to 56 degrees. fresh start on sunday but this bomb of high pressure between the low parking —— departing low system and in between we have remnants of the hurricane with our breaks of rain. to begin with, lovely sunny start, quickly warming up and strong sunshine overhead with light winds. cloud will increase through the afternoon, protect with robbie southend west and by the end of the

afternoon, typically grey for parts of western ireland, wales and south—west england. outbreaks of rain and drizzle, mr around the coast. rain for the irish sea. temperature is not far off the valleys today, it will feel warmer with light winds. outbreaks of rain to finish the day for the saudis corner. some may be heading off to the airport shortly, for tomorrow you can expect temperatures in the mediterranean very warm, sam storms and parts of italy and into the balkans and northern greece. lots of sunshine, perfectly hot for portugal and spain. it gets warmer over the next few days, humid on monday and into tuesday, rain becomes confined to the far north, increasing amounts of sunshine breaking through the cloud the further south and by the time we get to tuesday, a burst of some want coming our way, temperatures widely into the 20s, could get into them it is not the high 20s across parts of central and south—east england. goodbye for now. this is bbc news,

i'm rachel schofield. the headlines at 12pm. the manhunt continues. police mount a major operation to find younes abouyaaqoub, the man now believed to have driven a van into crowds in barcelona, killing 13 people. relatives of a seven—year—old boy, missing in in the city, have flown to spain to search for him. british bornjulian cadman became separated from his mother during the van attack. steve bannon, donald trump's former chief strategist, has vowed to go to war with the president's opponents, after being fired from his job. also in the next hour, we'll get the latest on major flooding across south asia, which has left as many as 500 dead. the situation is expected to worsen this weekend. and stars from stage and screen have continued to pay tribute to sir bruce forsyth who died yesterday at the age of 89.