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hello, it's monday, it's nine o'clock. i'm joanna gosling welcome to the programme. an investigation by this programme has found scammers are increasingly taking advantage of the goodwill of people donating money in the aftermath of major tragedies. so how can you be sure are you that your cash is going to the causes you hoped to help? the town was a brew seat bonus. was that a one—off or more widespread?” would say about 80% of us were doing it. online hate crimes will now be treated as seriously as offences committed face—to—face. the crown prosecution service has updated its rules following the growing number of cases occurring. if the crime is committed because of somebody‘s hatred of that particular characteristic, that is a hate crime. it is important to define it as such. if we define it as a hate crime we can ask the court to increase the sentence if they are convicted or plead guilty. we will be talking to love island's olivia about the abuse she's suffered on social media.
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the curtain has come down on mo farah‘s glittering the curtain has come down on mo fa rah‘s glittering track the curtain has come down on mo farah‘s glittering track career with a 3000 metres when in birmingham. what next for the athletics legend and what will his legacy be? we talked to his first running coach. hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. do you suffer from arthritis? it is a condition that affects 10 million people of all ages, including children, according to the nhs. the leading arthritis charity says it is being ignored as a major health issue. get in touch if you have got arthritis and you know what it feels like. use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today. hate crimes committed online should be pursued as seriously as offences carried out face to face, according to new guidelines for prosecutors in england and wales. the crown prosecution service says it will seek tougher penalties
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for abuse on social media, which it says could lead to the type of extremist hate seen in charlottesville in the us. dominic casciani has more. rhodri colwyn philipps, the fourth viscount st davids, jailed last month for racially aggravated threats on facebook against gina miller, the businesswoman behind the brexit legal challenge. she said she felt violated by his shocking comments, just one of many online attacks she suffered. now, the crown prosecution service says these kinds of crimes must be dealt with as robustly as offences on the street. it is promising a tougher response, to build public confidence. there were more than 15,000 hate crime prosecutions in 2015—2016, the highest number ever, and a third of those convicted saw their sentence increased. but the number of cases referred by police to persecutors fell by almost 10%, a drop the cps says it is investigating. with the explosion in the use of
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social media in recent years, it is very important the prosecuting authorities, the cps, the police, are as up—to—date as possible in making sure they are using the law to its fullest extent. there is no hiding place for these perpetrators. the law is clear. and if you persist in this sort of behaviour, you will be detected, caught and punished. some critics say police and prosecutors moved too slowly to apprehend online abusers. that means people are reluctant to come forward. the cps hopes new guidance will create the best possible chance of achieving justice for all victims. the cps says the campaign is not just aimed at raising awareness but
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also encouraging victims of online hate crimes to come forward. we know this is a crime that's underreported. sometimes people feel that they just have to sort of put up with it, it's something that happens to them because they're disabled, because they are gay, because they're a particular religion. and that's absolutely not the case. so we're really encouraging people to think about the behaviours that are shown to them and to think about reporting things which will be a hate crime. let us know your thoughts on that as well. the usual ways of getting in touch. matthew price is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the days news. good morning. the us navy says ten of its sailors are missing and five have been injured after one of its warships collided with an oil tanker off the coast of singapore. it's the second serious collision involving an american warship in two months. president trump has said his thoughts and prayers are with the crew. more people will die from fires started by faulty white goods, if ministers do not act to implement safety guidelines. that's according to
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the london fire brigade, the city's mayor and safety groups. they've sent a letter to theresa may in response to the grenfell tower fire, which it's thought was started in a fridge freezer. it warns some products are still being sold with a flammable plastic backing. spanish police are investigating a possible link between thursday's attacks in spain, and assaults by so—called islamic state in brussels last year. authorities believe the iman, abdelbaki es satty, may have radicalised younger members of the cell, which carried out the las ramblas and cambrils atrocities. they're also investigating whether he was involved in the bombings at brussels airport and a metro station in the city, which killed 32 people. with us now is our europe correspondent, gavin lee. gavin, what our police saying about
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this possible link involving the imam and these other attacks in europe? they searched his empty property over the weekend. they believe he is dead, that he accidentally killed himself in an explosion where he was planning this attack. there was bomb—making material. there was an explosion. two people died. he was living in a pyrenees town, that is where the search took place. they believe some of the parents of the suspects killed in the attack, say they were radicalised by this man. there were links, it appears, with the belgian attacks, in brussels. he was in prison were one of the suspects behind the 2004 madrid attack. we
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have had confirmation from the spanish police that the driver here on las ramblas, the suspect who carried out that van attack, is eunice abouyaaqoub. —— younes abouyaaqoub. they said they were looking for this one suspect who are still missing. there is cctv image re——— imagery which shows him leaving on foot away from here. we have clarity at least on who exactly this man is who is still missing. suggestion from some of the authorities this morning that there isa authorities this morning that there is a europe—wide hunt for that man? just to be clear, the spanish authorities aren't saying they believed he left the country. they haven't got any evidence that he has left the catalan area. what they are saying is, they put out an alert on
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thursday night for assistance. after the berlin attacks, the attacker was found in milan. after the paris attacks, one of the men was hiding out in brussels. they are aware of that. not suggesting he has definitely left the country. gavin lee, thank you very much indeed. we will be keeping you up—to—date with those developments as they continue here on the news channel. military exercises by south korean and american armed forces are going ahead, despite protests from the north. the drills are conducted every year, to prepare for an attack by the communist dictatorship. the latest come amid heightened tensions following an exchange of threats between pyongyang and washington. the united nations says 14,000 people have fled from the iraqi city of tal afar, where government forces have launched a major offensive against so—called islamic state. about 2000 militants remain in the city which has been bombed by us and iraqi warplanes. motorists in wales are being
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asked to pass footage captured on dashcams to police, in an effort to clamp down on dangerous driving. a pilot scheme in north wales has seen action taken against more than 100 drivers over the past year, after they were filmed by fellow motorists. members of the public are encourage to upload clips of "dodgy driving" onto a special website. big ben will fall silent this lunchtime — and won't sound again until 2021. it's part of a major refurbishment of the houses of parliament, which could see the bells muted for longest period in their history. emma vardy reports. big ben chimes. since 1859, big ben has chimed through the reign of six monarchs and two world wars, with only a handful of interruptions. however, parliament says the bell now needs to be disconnected
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for the safety of construction workers during major renovation work. but the plan to silence big ben has caused, well, rather a ding—dong. there has been a backlash from the public and politicians. the prime minister, theresa may, says she has asked the speaker of the commons to look into the matter urgently, to see whether big ben could continue to be heard. for now, big ben is due to be silenced until 2021, except for special occasions, such as new year's eve and remembrance day. people are invited to gather in parliament square to hear the final bongs at noon, before the great bell is taken out of action. we will bring you those final bonds live at midday. the united states will experience a coast to coast total solar eclipse for the first time in almost a century later today.
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it is the first time in 99 years. the movement will turn day into night for two and a half minutes across 14 us states. in the uk, a partial solar eclipse will be visible just before sunset as the moon appears to take a small bite out of the sun. here's a very good example of why not to use a mobile phone while on the move. look what happened when a sinkhole opened up at this crossing in china without warning. a scooter driver who was on his mobile didn't realise — and drove straight in. don't worry though, luckily he walked away unharmed. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30. those pictures are incredible. thank you. still to come, we have a special report on how scammers are increasingly taking advantage of the goodwill of people looking to make donations in the aftermath of major tragedies. how can you be sure your
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donated cash is going to the causes you want to help? get in touch with‘s. —— with‘s. let's get some sport. britain bidding farewell to sir mo farah. the four—time olympic gold medallist w011 the four—time olympic gold medallist won his last ever track race on home soil. he took the 3000 metres at the birmingham diamond league meeting. it is that sprint at the end, showing his power, dominance, and just kissing the track to pay homage through his years on the track. the father of four is now switching to road racing. he said all he dreams about as a kid was running for great britain. we are going to be speaking to the coach who started coaching at the age of 12. totten, wembley,
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another bad result? so this is a tricky one for spurs. they‘ re using wembley as their home ground this season, because the old white hart lane is being knocked down to make way for a new one. the problem sometimes with using wembley is that the away team can feel so fired up like it's an fa cup final. on the pitch, it finished 2—1 to chelsea. all smiles for chelsea, and a happy manager in antonio conte, who praised the commitment of his team. marcos alonso scored both goals. spurs have only won once in 11 games at wembley since it re—opened in 2007. talk of a curse is all a little too early at this stage. but one to watch, definitely. yes, we will. it has been a great weekend for britain's eventers. yes, that all happened in poland, and it's the first time they've won the title since 2009. nicola wilson also took individual bronze. riding in the showjumping, wilson could afford two penalties to secure the team gold but managed a perfect round.
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that confirmed britain's win, and her own bronze individual medal. germany claimed team silver with sweden finishing third. nice to end on some good news. thank you. scammers are increasingly taking advantage of the goodwill of people looking to make donations to help in the aftermath of major tragedies, an investigation by the victoria derbyshire programme has found. the uk's fraud reporting centre, action fraud, has shown us examples of fake fund—raising websites set up in the aftermath of the grenfell tower fire that they've managed to take down. but we've also found examples of organisations which look like charities but aren't raising money on the street. so how sure are you that your donated cash is going to the causes you hoped to help? sean dilley reports. with more than 200,000 registered charities in the uk,
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you're not going to struggle to find a good cause to donate your hard—earned cash to. last year, the british public donated around £10 billion to good causes. and with the charity and voluntary sector worth around £45 billion to our economy each year, it's a big—money business. so how can we be sure that the money we give on the street or online is actually going to the causes we want to support? it's somebody else pretending to be us. so that can't do us any good, that's for sure. do you not feel that you are taking advantage of the public‘s generosity? yes. so these things do tend to happen with regularity, i'm afraid, whenever there is some sort of high—profile event that really touches at the heart of the public. as a guide dog owner, i've benefited from charity.
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and to say thank you, i volunteer some spare time to help raise funds. but for quite a few years now, i've come across some fundraisers on the street who just don't sit right. so i've decided to film some of them. we buy mobility scooters for disabled adults and children. oh, right, yeah? and we're asking people... fundraisers like superman here. his name is salim sayed, or super si. he's raising money for something called the happiness foundation, which claims to buy mobility scooters for local people. what we do, we buy mobility scooters for adults and children who are registered as disabled locally. sounds great, doesn't it? everyone wants to support charity or whatever. .. exactly, if it weren't for people like you, we couldn't do this. but that may not be the case. the happiness foundation is not a registered charity or a company. fundraising like this is not illegal, but it does make it very hard to check to see if they are doing what they say that they're doing.
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online, a number of people have raised concerns about this happiness foundation. there was two complaints in 2014 on the happiness foundation facebook page. and then here starts the abusive ones. this has been a problem for a not—for—profit company also called the happiness foundation. it feels like a great injustice to me, that we are not doing anything wrong, we are actually doing good in the world. we mostly don't charge for what we've done. we've helped a lot of people. kath temple set up her happiness foundation eight years ago in memory of her brother, to provide counselling and support to his clients. but four years ago, she started getting complaints about the other happiness foundation. we were presenting to football's governing bodies, and i felt embarrassed. why should i be embarrassed? i haven't done anything wrong. but i felt embarrassed because i knew that if they did a search, perhaps that would come up. it's not my happiness foundation, it's somebody else pretending to be us. so that can't do us any good, that's for sure. we tried to talk to salim sayed, but
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he hasn't responded to our messages. we did manage to track down one of the men behind the happiness foundation, marcus leavsley. he told us they weren't pretending to be kath temple's happiness foundation, and they do provide mobility scooters for disabled people, though he wouldn't show us any evidence for this. hello, is marcus leavsley around, please? thank you. door slams. are you there, mr leavsley? mr leavsley, it's the victoria derbyshire show. are you going to come and have a chat with us? we asked marcus leavsley to be interviewed, and he declined. we asked him to show us that he really is doing the good work that he claims, but he refused. he has told us, however, that the happiness foundation no longer exists, and claims that he will still be honouring all the prize competitions he gives.
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but that's not the end of them. we've seen evidence that shows the same people behind the happiness foundation are selling the same competition tickets under the name theme for a dream project. they're still not a registered charity or a company, and they still claim to be buying mobility scooters for disabled people. we've seen no evidence that the actions of this happiness foundation, or the theme for a dream project, are illegal. but increasingly, campaigners are taking action themselves when they come across fundraisers that worry them. have you looked at their files? no, i haven't. do you know any of the charity work that they actually do? colin eastway was a paratrooper in the british army, where he served in iraq and afghanistan. he has been confronting people who he thinks are posing as military charities, and posting videos online. friends who have been injured in afghanistan. for example, lost limbs, maybe have ptsd or neurological injuries,
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they will look towards the charities for help and assistance. in terms of the way that you feel disrespects their service. tell us how that makes you feel? it does make me very angry, to think that they are actually stealing money from my friends, who are looking towards these charities for help. people think they're putting money in the bucket and it's going directly to the soldiers. "yes, i'll give it to the soldiers." when actually they're not, they're given to a scam company. so, yeah, very angry, to be honest. and what do you think about these people? obviously, it's the lowest of the low. stealing from a charity, stealing from a disabled charity, stealing from any sort of charity is the lowest of the low. what would you say to people if, you know, looking at the youtube videos, looking at some of the confrontations, why would it be wrong to see that as vigilante action on your part? i'm not a vigilante. i'm just a member of the public. i'm a concerned veteran. and as a member of the public, you have the right to ask questions like, "what's your charity
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registration number? " "how much of my £1 goes to the charity?" and you never feel that you go too far? no, i never go too far, never go too far. beyond the grey areas organisations like marcus leavsley‘s happiness foundation operate in, there are criminals who take advantage of the public‘s generosity. i've spoken to a man who admits he used to steal money from charity collections. we'll call him steve. he worked for companies that raised money for armed forces charities through bucket collections and competition ticket sales. but a big chunk of the cash ended up in his and his colleagues' pockets. they basically raised all of the money and then gave money to a certain charity. so, out of every £10 that was going in your bucket, or through tickets sold, how much was the charity getting? it was basically a flat rate, 20%. so £2 out of every £10? £2 out of every £10. i mean, how clear was it from the tickets that were being sold as to how much of that money was going to the cause?
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the only thing about it was just hidden in the back of a folder. just a statement that said, "look, we'll give 20% to this charity." they also sold competition tickets for £2.50. steve and his colleagues would convince people to give them extra money by telling them they were helping injured soldiers. instead, it was going straight into the fundraisers' pockets. they gave this act a nickname. the term was a brucie bonus. do you not feel that you were taking advantage of the public‘s generosity? yes, at times. i mean, it was. i mean, quite a few of us like to think we're doing a good deed, but at the end of the day, it was a job for us. and in particular, sometimes we earned good money. solicitor robert craig is a specialist in charity law. he said the public need to take a careful look before donating to apparently good causes. my wife and i were out, and some boys approached us to raise money for a gym which was teaching boxing to kids. and we thought that was a very good idea,
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so we said, you know, tell us more about it. we thought this was a bit strange. i asked a couple more questions, and they sort of disappeared. we took the name of the charity, or the organisation, and we got in touch with the gym. and the guy who ran it assured me they have no collections, that they don't raise money from the public like that — they get grants. and he has heard about this before, and obviously here are some youngsters starting on an early life of crime, trying to raise money at the expense of a charity. which is deplorable, but, you know, what can you do? i'm sure a lot of people going past would havejust put money in the tin. and should the police be doing more, do you think? i don't think you can expect the police to do much more than deal with very obvious cases where they find that, for example, because they see people stealing money out of a tin, or they catch people as part of a larger fraud.
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it's to do with, what's the public interest in pursuing it? and how likely are they to get a conviction? and also, whether finding a few people will actually stamp out the problem, which i doubt it will. i'm here in the city of london, because the police here gather all of the reports of charity fraud from around the country so that local forces can investigate it. i want to see if i can find outjust how big the problem really is. in terms of reports of the last year, we had 800 reports made to us by the public about charity fraud. we're conscious that what's reported to us is but a fraction of what actually happens in terms of all kinds of fraud, including charity fraud. so that 800 is a fairly large number of reports made over the course of the year. but we're conscious that the problem is most likely a lot larger than that in reality.
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can you give me any recent examples of how people have exploited the public‘s generosity? yes, a very recent example, and a very tragic example, would be websites and just giving pages being set up in support of the grenfell tower incident. we within the nfib set up a process where we could monitor new websites that are being set up with a link to grenfell tower, especially anything reported to be a charity collection website. one of them directly on the first day that we set up the process, we did establish was a fraudulent website. the person who set it up, as soon as money was being paid into his bank account, he was then withdrawing money in cash, which was very suspicious. we managed to get that website taken down on the same day and the bank account blocked. how often does this happen? you tend to find it's happening more and more frequently in connection with high profile, you know, tragedies. high profile events.
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we also had similar incidents occurring with the manchester bombing a couple of months ago. so these things do tend to happen with a regularity, i'm afraid. whenever there is some sort of high profile event that really touches at the heart of the public who, in their generosity, they want to do something, they want provide a way of giving and helping those in need. so how do we avoid being duped by a fake charity? the regulator, the charity commission, has this advice... check that street fundraisers have a charity registration number. that they are happy to give further information when asked. and when donating online, avoid requests to give cash via money transfer companies. this is a common scam. the vast majority of fundraising is legitimate, but we found grey areas where it is all but impossible to check where your money ends up. and there are scammers that are prepared to go to ever more sophisticated lengths to snatch money from those who most need it. with authorities‘ resources stretched, it's increasingly down to us to make sure that that cash is going where we want it to. led us know your thoughts on that.
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peter on facebook, i am very wary of anyone on the street all with a stall at car—boot sales claiming to be doing it for charity, how do we know it is genuine? christopher says, i have been involved in the charity sector for a few years, and it needs to get a grip on this, because it gives honest charity is a bad name and undermines the often crucial work the sector is doing. the vast majority of those i have worked with and working with today in the charity sector are honest and dedicated to the causes they are helping. keep your thoughts coming and in the next hour, we'll hear from the charity regulator and a woman whose charity to raise funds for her son's cerebral palsy was scammed. also coming up, love island's olivia
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will be talking to us about the new changes in hate crime law. and mo farah‘s incredible changes in hate crime law. and mo fa rah‘s incredible career on changes in hate crime law. and mo farah‘s incredible career on the track finished last night with yet another win, and we expected nothing less, of course. we speak to three people who have worked and trained with him throughout his career. puttsjoin with him throughout his career. putts join matthew for a summary of today's news. hate crimes committed online should be pursued as seriously as offences carried out face to face, according to new guidelines for prosecutors in england and wales. the crown prosecution service says it will seek tougher penalties for abuse on social media, which it says could lead to the type of extremist hate seen in charlottesville in the us. the us navy says ten of its sailors are missing and five have been injured after one of its warships
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collided with an oil tanker off the coast of singapore. it's the second serious collision involving an american warship in two months. president trump has said his thoughts and prayers are with the crew. spanish police are investigating a possible link between thursday's attacks in spain and assaults by so—called islamic state in brussels last year. authorities believe the imam abdelbaki es satty may have radicalised younger members of the cell, which carried out the las ramblas and cambrils atrocities. they're also investigating whether he was involved in the bombings at brussels airport and a metro station in the city, which killed 32 people. more people will die from fires started by faulty white goods, if ministers do not act to implement safety guidelines. that's according to the london fire brigade, the city's mayor and safety groups. they've sent a letter to theresa may in response to the grenfell tower fire, which it's thought was started in a fridge freezer.
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it warns some products are still being sold with a flammable plastic backing. big ben is going to bring out for the last time today, for the first time ona the last time today, for the first time on a daily basis in four years. the houses of parliament are undergoing a major refurbishment and the bells will be muted for the longest period in their 157 year history. some mps have criticised the plan. we will be bringing those bells to you live, the last time they ring at midday. that is the latest bbc news. very controversial, isn't it? we will of course listen to those bells at midday. now the sport. mo farah ended his british track career with victory in the 3000 metres in birmingham. he is 110w the 3000 metres in birmingham. he is now switching to road racing. he
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said asa now switching to road racing. he said as a kid he dreams of running for britain. chelsea manager antonio co nte for britain. chelsea manager antonio conte has warned tottenham teams will be inspired by playing against them at wembley. spurs lost 2—1 at wembley yesterday in their first league game at the national stadium. and great britain won team gold at the european eventing championships in poland, the first time they have w011 in poland, the first time they have won the title since 2009. i'm back at ten. from today, prosecutors will be expected to treat online hate crimes as seriously as those offline. the crown prosecution service has updated its rules following the growing number of online abuse cases. a hate crime is an offence motivated by prejudice towards a person's disability, race, religion, sexual orientation or transgender identity. the cps says it will prosecute complaints of online hate crime "with the same robust approach used with offline offending, while recognising that children may not appreciate the potential harm and seriousness of their communications". it's director of public prosecutions, alison saunders, said many hate crimes were under reported.
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there are two things we have lost. one is internal guidance for prosecutors, the different things they need to take into account in relation to the specific strands of hate crime, and to make sure that we are asking for a sentence left, where we are convicting individuals, and also their public facing statements, and also social media campaign we are launching today. that is important because we know this is a crime that is underreported. sometimes people feel that they just have to sort of put up with it, it's something that happens to them because they're disabled, because they are gay, because they're a particular religion. and that's absolutely not the case. so we're really encouraging people to think about the behaviours that are shown to them and to think about reporting things which will be a hate crime. last month, some mps told us about the trolling and abusive language they regularly received — some of which falls into the category of a hate crime. let's hear from them. caroline ansell is as bad
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as isis, and hitler. cat smith should be lynched. @rupa huq, you talibanic... tory scum. you tory witch. get out of my country, you ugly racist... exclamation mark. ugly, smelly, muslim vermin. tory scum. i want to see your head swinging from tower bridge. simon hart, you are a... go get in the bin. you muslim, fascist... we voted brexit and article 50 is going to get triggered anyway. and so it carries on. well, joining us now is paul twocock, who is from the lgbt rights charity stonewall. olivia attwood, who has been the victim of vicious abuse since appearing on the programme love island. this is herfirst tv interview talking about it.
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and sheila atim, who has been racially abused in public many times, but never online. good morning. thank you forjoining us. olivia, welcome. what sort of abuse have you received? when i was on the show, unfortunately a lot of the abuse was directed at my family. i was the abuse was directed at my family. iwas ina the abuse was directed at my family. i was in a bubble. since i came out it has all been online. a lot of it i couldn't repeat on breakfast television. can you give us the censored version? death threats, people making personal comments. how many death threats? a significant amount. what do they say? things like, you should die. what do they say about why they hate you so much? there are no specific reasons. i
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think they have watched the show and they feel like they know you. they wa nt to they feel like they know you. they want to express their thoughts. because they are hiding behind a keyboard, it is being able to get that message across that they believe there are no consequences, which often there aren't. do you feel threatened? i made which often there aren't. do you feelthreatened? i made a which often there aren't. do you feel threatened? i made a conscious effort to not let it affect me. i went into the series with the eyes open. when i came into this industry i was warned this was something i would have to put up with. i think it is so sad that you work in the public eye and you are warned you will have to tolerate this kind of behaviour. that is quite an issue. that we normalise it to that extent. what impact as it had on you?m that we normalise it to that extent. what impact as it had on you? it has been upsetting. it would be wrong to say it hasn't. but it is, for me, i'm quite thick—skinned. somebody
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who wasn't like me, the effect it could have on them emotionally and mentally, is devastating. you say that you were told to expect it. is there anything that you have thought you probably should report it? would you probably should report it? would you report scoffed? there are things. is this normal? you can't pretend you haven't seen it. you don't really know what you are meant to do when you see it and who you should talk to, because it is so normalised. you see it so much. i see some any people in the industry who do what i do get the same m essa 9 es who do what i do get the same messages and comments. it is one of those things you are programmed to believe it is quite normal. woody report something to the police? believe it is quite normal. woody report something to the police7m believe it is quite normal. woody report something to the police? if i felt a genuine threat to my life, to my safety, i would. you say you have
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death threats, but you wouldn't report those? i personally try not to ta ke report those? i personally try not to take it literally. i hope it is just what you see on there. but for someone else that might not be the case. paul, where would you draw the line? if you feel you have case. paul, where would you draw the line? if you feelyou have been intimidated, and certainly if you are receiving threats online, they should be reported. what you are saying is absolutely right. it depends on the individual. you shouldn't have to just grin and depends on the individual. you shouldn't have tojust grin and bear this sort of intimidation. in online spaces you can have a mob intimidating you. if you imagine that on the street, you would report that. you should think about the equivalence. if we don't crack down on online hate crime, it will get worse and seep into other forms of hate crime. is there a direct link between someone doing something
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online and feeling emboldened to speak out? or is it someone sitting quietly at the keyboard feeling that they will get away with it, and remains defiant? i haven't read any research which shows that direct link. if you'd think, through common sense, if we say it is permissible to have this sort of hatred online, people will feel emboldened and feel like this is permissible in society. online spaces are so important in societies and communities that we should be cracking down on this hate online, where it is more prevalent than on the streets. we don't want to increase hate crime in the street as well. olivia, have you had a face—to—face abuse as well? as well. olivia, have you had a face-to-face abuse as well? no, i haven't. that is the confusing thing about these situations. all the reaction i have had in public has been positive. it doesn't match up.
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there is something quite wrong there. there is a whole community of people online that feel so passionately against me in this way. but when i am out on a day—to—day basis, people are lovely, it is all positive. it doesn't weigh up. sheila has had abuse face—to—face but not online. what has your experience been? yeah, obviously i ama experience been? yeah, obviously i am a black woman, sol experience been? yeah, obviously i am a black woman, so i have experienced racism ever since i was a child in the street. you get people shouting at you from cars. it can come at any point. i was confronted with my friend by people in the street because they felt like that at that point in time. they saw us as that at that point in time. they saw usasa that at that point in time. they saw us as a target. i have had it on the train. you get it at work sometimes. it is kind of a regular occurrence. do you think it is right to treat
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online abuse as harshly as off—line? absolutely. even though i haven't beena absolutely. even though i haven't been a victim of online abuse myself, i have friends who have been victims of online abuse. i have witnessed the online abuse that a lot of people who are in the public eye received. it can be just psychologically taxing and damaging, just like other abuse. even though i have managed to get through life, you still take it with you. you can actually be quite frightening to know that somebody who is not in any close proximity to you, still has a way of reaching you and getting to you. that is quite frightening. paul, if someone is saying something online that they wouldn't say to someone's face, do they perhaps not really realise the impact of what they are doing, but also how serious an issue it is due macro particularly with kids, actually, because kids can potentially say anything online and not necessarily
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realise that what they are doing would equate with a crime?” realise that what they are doing would equate with a crime? i think it is important, that's why we need to treat online hate crime as seriously. there is terrible bullying in our schools. over halve of lesbian, gay, bisexual and bullying in our schools. over halve of lesbian, gay, bisexualand trans children are abused at school. there is still an important lesson to be learned, whether somebody is a child oran learned, whether somebody is a child or an adult, that this is never acceptable, that it does create psychological damage. people shouldn't feel like they can't be who they are, that they can't live their lives because of somebody else's violent hatred towards them. what is the way to deal with it if kids are doing the sort of things you are talking about? does become a crime issue immediately? you can see in the cbs guidelines —— cps
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guidelines, all the work we do with schools is educating children to think about the impact of what they are doing to their peers. michael lyndall has tweeted to say that we are in the slippery slopes of censorship. how will they balance this with the right of free speech? what do you think of the right for people to have free speech?” what do you think of the right for people to have free speech? i think it is not anything like that. i'm quite opinionated myself. there is a line between being opinionated and abusive. you can say you don't like someone and don't agree with what they do. but to be personal and threatening, that's two different things. having an opinion on someone and watching a show and thinking, i'm not keen on that person, and writing that you want bad things to happen to them and their family, thatis happen to them and their family, that is not an opinion. there is a massive difference. it's right for
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people to be pulled up where did they do this. is it right for someone like you to say —— to go online and turn it back on them?” choose not to engage in it. i think a lot as well with people online, especially keyboard warriors were reality tv is concerned, they want to engage you. they feel they know you because they have watched you foran hour you because they have watched you for an hour each day. what they would like is a reply. i'm not going to use precious energy in a day to do that with someone who has chosen to write into one of my social media accou nts to write into one of my social media accounts and give them the platform. after today with the cbs saying that they want part of the thing going forward is for people to feel emboldened to report online abuse, if it is appropriate, does it make you feel differently about it? yes, i think it needs to come to a point, we re i think it needs to come to a point, were speaking to other people who have been in a situation like me, we are normalising it. where are all
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just acting like it is normal. that is their problem. when it happens, you need somebody you could speak to and you don't feel you are overreacting. that there is a number you can call and it can be dealt with in an appropriate way. and you feel like that is your lifetime, as such. i have had this message, what should i do? somebody can advise you. do people stop when you ignore them? yeah, on the whole. when i was in the show, when i was in the villa, it was relentless towards my family and friends. it was terrible for them because they took the burden of it. i was ignorant of it. they didn't stop. we had to block people and delete accounts. when i came out of the show i am a real person. it did massively taper off. people can see, she is a normal girl, she was on the show. it has got a lot less. but for them it was
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terrible. an interesting point about olivia saying people have the distinction, where she is on television and not a real person. you have experienced something completely different to where people are just rude to you face—to—face. do you ever reported? no, i no, lam no, i am sad to say i don't. both online and offline, it is something we believe we are supposed to learn to adapt to, something that we are supposed to grow a thick skin around and except. and i think everyone on this show is absolutely right, that actually we don't have to accept it. there is the option for us to complain about it and to get some justice behind it. and i think a big pa rt of justice behind it. and i think a big part of the reason why people experience a difference in real life to online is because these people are emboldened behind a screen, they feel protected, they feel anonymous.
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even though i have a face—to—face abuse, there were incidences where people were shouting out of cars is the equivalent, driving away, whereas i am walking on the street, so whereas i am walking on the street, solam whereas i am walking on the street, so i am nevergoing whereas i am walking on the street, so i am never going to know who that person was, so i am never going to know who that person was, they are gone within a few seconds. sol person was, they are gone within a few seconds. so i think it is absolutely important, absolutely. sheila, olivia, paul, thank you for joining us, led us know your thoughts on the conversation, the usual ways of getting in touch. coming up, arthritis. ten million people in the uk suffer from it, including young people and children, but campaigners say it is being ignored as a major health issue and costing the nhs billions. sir mo farah has won his last track race on home soil in the 3,000m at the diamond league meeting in birmingham. it has been a successful final month
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for sir mo. it was so difficult at first. i went in year six. first day, i went in and everybody was just sort of speaking a different language, i found that really hard to get used to. but i got my cousins going to the same school as me, but everything that i would tell in somalian, it was just like, tell the teachers in english. if it wasn't for my pe teacher, who spotted me in the school, i don't think i would be in this position. what motivates me is to try and do the country proud. now ijust want to do the best and, you know, continue winning. and this is the sight that everybody has come to see.
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everybody is on their feet here. the final sprint. the final chapter. the final win for mo farah in britain! it's important you have the right people in your life. and i think that's what it is, very important. the right coach. the people that have the best interest for you. when i run for my country, i'm very proud. this is where i grew up, this is where i've done everything. i'm proud to represent my country. there's no short cuts. you've got to work hard. and you don't achieve something overnight. you've got to keep continuing and keep working hard. and sometimes, you know, things don't go the way you want, but you've got to come over it and keep going, moving forward. let's speak now to alex mcgee,
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who is mo farah‘s first ever coach. he worked with him at the windsor slough eton and hounslow athletic club from the age of 12 for around five years. we also have goldie sayers who, as well as being an elected member of uk athletics newly—formed athletes‘ commission, she is the recently retired britishjavelin record holder and a three—time olympian. she has known mo since they were on the junior athletics team together back in 2000. and we can also from limerick, we can talk tojohn kiely, who is a sports and exercise scientist and used to be head of conditioning for uk athletics. he worked with mo between 2005 and 2008 to get him ready for beijing. thank you all very much forjoining us. he has been an absolute tour de force that people have fallen in
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love with, hasn't he? tell us what he was like when he was 12. any typical 12—year—old child. he used to come training, he didn't speak much english, so it was a lot of hand things to get him to understand, initially, what he had to do. but he was just like any young person i was coaching then. was there a spark, an obvious talent that you spotted? not until the first league match at perivale, i was timekeeping, as i normally did, and he did the 1500... sorry, when was that? not long after he came to the club. he was still 12, and he ran 4.44, and i loved that alan and said, where as that come from? it wasn't until he got on the track
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that he felt rob lee at home, co mforta ble. that he felt rob lee at home, comfortable. 4.4 for at did he realise how special and was? what did you say to him? well done, just keep working at it. he was only a young child, my thoughts were you do not try and encourage them to bar, you want them to build up gradually, then tell them. what were you thinking at the time? this is a future british olympian? no, future good athlete at that time, because obviously he had not done training 01’ obviously he had not done training or anything like that, and it wasn't until his first cross—country race, he got to the english schools, and he got to the english schools, and he may have won it had he not gone
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the wrong way because he had never done cross—country, and he couldn't understand which way the marshals we re understand which way the marshals were telling him to go. so we didn't a lwa ys were telling him to go. so we didn't always win? no, he didn't always win. what did he do when he didn't win? sulked! did it renew his focus? they just gradually win? sulked! did it renew his focus? theyjust gradually built up, and as it got into the races, it became evident after a few finals that he got into, through the age groups, that he liked winning. he didn't like losing. that became evident, but much later on. john, you worked with him in 2005, a lot later, to get him ready for beijing, how important is it, with someone showing great talent, to actually properly channel that talent?m showing great talent, to actually properly channel that talent? it is a complex part with lots of
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potential pitfalls, and it is a time when lots of promising athletes fall off the radar, really, because of mismanagement, overtraining, injury, any host of problems that might cause them to pack it in. the time that i worked with mo, he was working with a very group from st mary's in london, run by a former steeplechase olympic medallist, really good group, really well managed. i think that mo at the time wasn't... you know, he was one of a host of good up and coming athletes, but he was not identified as a future world beater. i think what he did have from the get go was he brought some talents to the table that other people didn't have. so if you think of endurance running, it is an event which historic lee
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people have tried to quantify with scientific measures. —— which historically. there were lots of athlete at the time around the uk who had better oxygen carrying capabilities than mo, but what he had in spades was he was an excellent move, excellent coordination, if you showed him a move, he would execute it really well. it is something that we do not normally look for, something that endurance athletes do not normally train for, but he brought that to the party and had it in spades. it properly goes back to a very active youth, played a lot of football, but a very real talent for whatever reason. ok, i want a very real talent for whatever reason. ok, iwant to a very real talent for whatever reason. ok, i want to bring in goldie, you have known him since you we re goldie, you have known him since you were on the junior athletics team together, how did you see him? he was together, how did you see him? he was clearly talented, but all mo, it
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is his work ethic that has set him apart, and his will to win as well. to do what he has done, i think most athletes are happy if they have won one world or olympic title, but he has won 14, so not only his ability but is longevity has been so impressive for me. impressive over the years, and still impressive with him going out now — widely think he is going out now? the nature of the event he does, the mileage he does, 120 miles a week for well over a decade, i have known him for 20 years, and he was always a long—distance athlete, so not only the physical capability, the mental energy that goes into winning titles, and i think that starts to wane as you get over the age of 34, which he is now. he spoke after winning the medal at the world athletics championships about the impact on him of the salazar allegations, it was clear that it
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has had an impact on him, what is your, knowing the man, what is your understanding of that? it absolutely must have done, and we have to remember this is must have done, and we have to rememberthis is an must have done, and we have to remember this is an allegation against his coach, not against him, and it is going to have an impact on his career, and what he doesn't want it to do is have an in impact on his legacy and all the thousands of kids he has inspired, and the other team members as well. we have to remember what he has done, not only for himself and his family, but the sport in the uk as well. how would you define his legacy? one-off, if not our greatest athlete of all time, truly an inspiration to kids and also distance runners in this country, because ten or 15 years ago, if you said we have an olympic champion in long—distance evidence, against the kenyans, ethiopians, most people would have laughed, and mo has made it possible for the next generation. what do you think going forward ,
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generation. what do you think going forward, john, is he going to be able to be at the top of the marathon world, which is where he is going? i think he certainly has all the tools to do that, but the physical tools and the psychological tools in terms of the knows what it takes, he knows what it takes to, you know, conduct those endless miles of routine training away from the camera. he is well used to that, and as goldie alluded to, it is difficult to predict in terms of how much wear and tear there already is in the system, and when it will actually start to have a negative effect on performance, and that is something that nobody can predict. i think, to date, one of the great things with mo is he is both physically and psychologically robust and resilient. hopefully, that resilience psychologically, emotionally, physically will continue. if it does, then i can't
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see why he can't have an excellent marathon career. i guess whether or not he goes an to the heights that he did on the track remains to be seen. alex, just looking at these great pictures of mo farah, the absolute joy on his face when he achieves that great success, everybody watching at home feels pride. as someone who has played a pa rt pride. as someone who has played a part in shaping him into the great athlete that he became, how do you feel when you watch them? pride? just as when he was younger, you know, it did go over onto his colleagues, you know, the other athletes he ran with. i mean, i think there was one stage when he had to move on, and i wasn't sure, he was going to go and train with someone else, people who i coached at the same time as well, and there was that age gap. but he looked up
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to them, and he really looked up to sam a lot. so it was probably later on, we used to go out to bushy park, the kenyans would—be there, and i would say, manors, don't go so fast, you are not raising anybody, but he was, he was racing the kenyans. lovely to talk to you all, thank you very much, alex, goldie, john. let us very much, alex, goldie, john. let us know what you think of that great career. simon king has the weather details. where people are just rude to you face—to—face. do you ever reported? a brief warm spell heading our way in the next couple of days. this morning we'll start of misty and murky. this is the scene in kent. lots of cloud. further east, there are some sunny spells. not too bad in hartlepool. sunshine here. in the north—east, you will keep that
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sunshine into the late afternoon. elsewhere, it is turning quite cloudy. this warm front is moving north. behind it, we have warmer, tropical air from north. behind it, we have warmer, tropical airfrom the north. behind it, we have warmer, tropical air from the south. it will feel quite humid in parts of the uk. that will bring outbreaks of rain in the north. they should be some brea ks the north. they should be some breaks in the cloud developing in the south. where you get sunshine, temperatures probably higher than these temperatures suggest. for the north midlands, north west england, north midlands, north west england, north wales, the isle of man, northern ireland, heavy rain expected. but in north—eastern scotland, holding onto the sunny spells with temperatures 16 to 18. there is the great american eclipse this evening. in the uk we may actually see a partial eclipse around about eight o'clock. look to the bottom left—hand corner of the
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sun, safely, and you will see the moon passing about 10% of the surface. but for this evening it is cloudy. it will stay cloudy into the early hours of tuesday. quite a humid night. temperatures 16 degrees. further rain in the north. the warm front has shown... more of us the warm front has shown... more of us in this warm sector, this tropical air mass. warmerfrom any. still cloudy skies, outbreaks of rain, particularly in northern ireland and western scotland. thundery through tuesday afternoon. temperatures 22 to 24 degrees. 15 to 17 in scotland. this warm air will be with us for the next few days but then that will gradually move away as we get to midweek. from wednesday, fresher conditions from the west. by thursday, all of us out of those fresher conditions. temperatures dropping. it will stay
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fairly unsettled. outbreaks of rain. showers on thursday with sunny spells. i will see you later on. hello, it's monday, it's ten o'clock. i'm joanna gosling welcome to the programme. cracking down on online abuse. now it will be treated the same as any other hate crime. love island's olivia says the relentless abuse people put up which should not be tolerated. i am opinionated myself but there is a line between being opinionated and being abusive. you can say you don't agree with people. put to be personal allowance threatening, that's two different things. you can see the full interview on our programme page online. we investigate the charity scammers taking advantage of people's desire to help those in need. the term was a brucie bonus. was that a one—off or more widespread? i would say about 80% of us were doing it. we will hear from the charity
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regulator and a woman whose charity to raise funds for her son's cerebral palsy was scammed. this is vicky, hours before she was diagnosed with stage for a long cancer. doctors had repeatedly told her her symptoms were as ma. she will give her first tv interview in about 45 minutes. now let's join matthew for a summary of the news. hate crimes committed online should be pursued as seriously as offences carried out face to face, according to new guidelines for prosecutors in england and wales. the crown prosecution service says it will seek tougher penalties for abuse on social media, which it says could lead to the type of extremist hate seen in charlottesville in the us. the move is part of a wider review
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of such crimes by the cps. we know this is a crime that's underreported. sometimes people feel that they just have to sort of put up with it, it's something that happens to them because they're disabled, because they are gay, because they're a particular religion. and that's absolutely not the case. so we're really encouraging people to think about the behaviours that are shown to them and to think about reporting things which will be a hate crime. reality tv star olivia attwood said she has been a victim of online abuse, but she says celebrities are almost expected to tolerate hateful comments as a result of being in the public eye. when i was in the show a lot of the abuse was directed at my family because i was in the bubble of love island. since i came out, it has all been online. a lot of it i couldn't repeat on breakfast television. can you give us a censored version?m
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is pretty severe. death threats. people making personal comments. death threats? how many?‘ significant amount. what do they say? things like, you should die. the us navy says ten of its sailors are missing and five have been injured after one of its warships collided with an oil tanker off the coast of singapore. it's the second serious collision involving an american warship in two months. president trump has said his thoughts and prayers are with the crew. spanish police are investigating a possible link between thursday's attacks in spain, and assaults by so—called islamic state in brussels last year. authorities believe the iman, abdelbaki es satty, may have radicalised younger members of the cell, which carried out the las ramblas and cambrils atrocities. they're also investigating whether he was involved in the bombings at brussels airport and a metro station in the city, which killed 32 people. more people will die from fires started by faulty white goods,
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if ministers do not act to implement safety guidelines. that's according to the london fire brigade, the city's mayor and safety groups. they've sent a letter to theresa may in response to the grenfell tower fire, which it's thought was started in a fridge freezer. it warns some products are still being sold with a flammable plastic backing. big ben will ring out today, for what could be the last time in four years, as the houses of parliament undergo a major refurbishment. the bells will be muted for the longest period in their 157 year history. some mps have criticised the plan, saying the bell‘s chimes are an important part of national life. you can listen to those final bongs live at midday. here's a very good example of why not to use a mobile phone while on the move.
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look what happened when a sinkhole opened up at this crossing in china without warning. a scooter driver who was on his mobile didn't realise — and drove straight in. don't worry though, luckily he walked away unharmed. that is a summary of the latest bbc news. more at half past ten. those pictures are unbelievable. still to come, the hunt for the driver who killed 13 people in barcelona last week has been extended across europe. spanish officials say. we will have latest. we also have more on a warning from london fire brigade, the mayor of london fire brigade, the mayor of london and safety groups that more people will die from fires started by faulty white goods, if the government doesn't implement guidelines made more than a year ago. get in touch throughout the morning. now the sport. chelsea manager antonio conte is
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warning top number of other clubs will relish the atmosphere at wembley. marcos alonso scored twice as the blues beat spurs 2—1 in their first league game at the national stadium. spurs have won on the two of the 11 games they have played at wembley since it reopened in 2007. co nte says wembley since it reopened in 2007. conte says the atmosphere is great for visiting teams. but the totte n ha m for visiting teams. but the tottenham manager insists his players can cope. it doesn't affect me. but i understand that we need to talk. today i think the wembley effect is not the reason, because we lose the game. i think the team played really well. it is not fair to blame again wembley, because wembley is, for me, one of the best places in the world, if not the best
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places in the world, if not the best place to play football. there was a minute's silence before barcelona's match against real betis last night, the first match since the terror attacks last week. players wore shirts with barcelona on the back. they won the match 2—0. mo farah has won his last ever track race in britain with victory in the men's 3000 metres at the birmingham diamond league meeting. he took the gold in the 10,000 metres at the london world championships, adding to the titles he holds. his last track race will be next week in zurich after that he is switching to road racing. what you forget as an athlete, it becomes something of a hobby, it becomes something of a hobby, it becomes a job. i love what i do. it is part of it. it can get real hard
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when you have so much pressure. you can't go anywhere. going to the road will be a completely new game, a new mind. i'm excited. great britain have won the team gold medal at the european eventing championships in poland. nicola wilson took individual bronze, she could afford two penalties to afford the team gold but managed a perfect run. germany claimed team silver, with sweden finishing third. the usa have won the solheim cup after beating europe in iowa. the americans had taken a commanding five point lead into the final day's singles. it proved too much, despite a spirited european performance. the united states have now won five out of the last seven competitions. and finally, zlatan ibrahimovic has been showing off just how strong his knee is. almost strong enough to return to football.
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he has posted a video of himself kicking a punching bag. he posted, which need? he remains out of contract and without a club. he is still wanted by manchester united if he can return to full fitness. that is all from me for now. more at 10:30am. some breaking news out of marseille in france. we arejust hearing some breaking news out of marseille in france. we are just hearing from the reuters news agency that at least one person is dead and one injured in marseille after a car has crashed into two bus shelters. a police source has said it is not clear if the incident was an accident or deliberate. they are advising that the public avoid the area. it has happened in the old port district of marseille. that is all that we have at the moment.
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these early reports coming in from the reuters news agency of an accident in marseille. one person dead and one person injured after a crash in marseille. it is not clear if the incident was an accident or deliberate. we will stay across those reports and keep you updated. an investigation by the victoria derbyshire programme has found scammers are increasingly taking advantage of the good will of people looking to make donations to help in the aftermath of major tragedies. the uk's fraud reporting centre, action fraud, has shown us examples of fake fund—raising websites set up in the aftermath of the grenfell tower fire that they've managed to take down. but we've also found examples of organisations which look like charities but aren't raising money on the street. so how sure are you that your donated cash is going to the causes you hoped to help? sean dilley reports. with more than 200,000 registered charities in the uk, you're not going to struggle to find a good cause to donate your hard—earned cash to. last year, the british
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public donated around £10 billion to good causes. so, how can we be sure that the money that we give on the street or online is actually going to the causes we want to support? we're buying mobility scooters for disabled adults and children. oh, right? superman here is salim sayed, or super si. he is raising money for something called the happiness foundation, which claims it buys mobility scooters for local people. that sounds great, but it might not be the case. this happiness foundation is not a registered company or charity. fundraising like this is not illegal, but it makes it very hard to check that they do what they claim. online, a number of people have raised concerns about this happiness foundation. there was two complaints in 2014 on the happiness foundation facebook page. and this has been a problem for a not—for—profit company also called the happiness foundation. we were presenting to football's governing bodies, and i felt embarrassed. why should i be embarrassed?
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i haven't done anything wrong. but i felt embarrassed because i knew that if they did a search, perhaps that would come up. we tried to talk to salim sayed, but he hasn't responded to our messages. we did manage to track down one of the men behind the happiness foundation, marcus leavsley. he told us they weren't pretending to be kath temple's happiness foundation, and they do provide mobility scooters for disabled people — though he wouldn't show us any evidence for this. hello, is marcus leavsley around, please? thank you. door slams. are you there, mr leavsley? i've spoken to a man who admits he used to steal money from charity collections. we'll call him steve. he worked for companies that raised money for armed forces charities through bucket collections and competition ticket sales. but a big chunk of the cash ended up in his and his colleagues' pockets. the term was a brucie bonus. was that a one—off, or was this more widespread? pretty much.
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i would say a good 80% of us were doing it. did you not feel that you were taking advantage of the public‘s generosity? yes, at times. i mean, it was. solicitor robert craig is a specialist in charity law. he says the public need to take a careful look before donating to apparently good causes. i don't think you can expect the police to do much more than deal with very obvious cases. it's to do with, what's the public interest in pursuing it? and how likely are they to get a conviction? there were more than 800 reports to action fraud about suspected charity scams in the last year. some of them were trying to profit from recent disasters. a very recent example, and a very tragic example, would be websites and just giving pages being set up in support of the grenfell tower incident. we set up a process where we could monitor any new websites that were being set up with a link to grenfell tower. on the first day we set up the process, one that we did establish was a fraudulent website,
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we managed to get that website taken down on the same day and the bank account blocked. so how do we avoid being duped by fake charities? the regulator, the charity commission, has this advice. check that street fundraisers have a charity registration number. that they are happy to give further information when asked. and when donating online, avoid requests to give cash via money transfer companies. this is a common scam. the fast majority of fundraising is legitimate. but we found grey areas where it's all but impossible to check where your money ends up. and there are scammers that are prepared to go to ever more sophisticated lengths to snatch money from those who most need it. with authorities‘ resources stretched, it increasingly falls to us to make sure that our cash is going where we want it to. let‘s speak now to sarah atkinson from the regulator, the charity commission, daniel fluskey, from the institute of fundraising, which represents fundraisers, and aline garner, who set up a charity to help raise funds for her son riley‘s therapy.
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this sarah will feel sick and that they are being targeted by scammers we re they are being targeted by scammers were never giving money. one of the brilliant things about this country is that people give generously when something happens, and it is awful when people exploit that goodwill for the wrong cause, but there are some simple checks that we encourage people to make to make sure they are giving to a genuine charity. how many scammers do you think might be out there? action fraud have talked about 800 reports, and we think that is significant underreporting. a lot of people would not reported, but we encourage people, if you think you have avoided being the victim or you area have avoided being the victim or you are a victim of fraud, please report it, it helps us track these people down. what is the oversight for unregistered charities? does it come
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down to just people reporting? unregistered charities? does it come down tojust people reporting?“ unregistered charities? does it come down to just people reporting? if an organisation is not a registered charity, but it is fundraising for good causes, there is not necessarily anything wrong with that, there can be good reasons why people would want to fundraiser outside the regulated environment, but you do not have the protection of registration, so people should still ask questions, be confident that you know where the money is going, and if someone cannot answer your questions or seems evasive, it is natural to feel uncomfortable and think, in these cases, i don‘t want to give there. as we are hearing, it is very easy for underage, and obviously it is a really important thing. —— it is very easy for people to fund raise. but it is also easy to fund raise. but it is also easy to exploit people‘s goodwill, so what is the best way to crack down on that? as sarah said, the public should be on the lookout, and if you
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are thinking about donating to a charity, and most especially where there are big issues happening, emergencies or tragedies, people wa nt emergencies or tragedies, people want to give, and we want to encourage that, but the more that people can have a look to check that it is going to a genuine cause, look for the charity number, to see if it is late, and if it is on the street, ask questions, see their id badge, all those things will help people be more assurance that the money is going to a genuine cause. it means we all have to be more cynical, which is not nice, is it? you do not have to be cynical, you should always be able to ask questions, and charities should be open, upfront about how they raise funds. make sure that you think it is going to a genuine cause, and then you can give safely and with confidence. do think it is impacting on people actually giving? i do not think it is in
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relation to giving, the british public give about £10 million every year. that is not to say that any instance of fraud is not important, of course it is, but this country is generous and people do want to support good causes. linda has got in touch to say there are so many dishonest people around that i go to my local charity shops with goods and cash, i know they are getting my donations. ray has e—mailed to say that people who carry out street collections should display an authorisation from the charity concerned. and on twitter, i often get back through my door is asking for donations to be left outside, many i do not recognise as charities. i see what you are both saying as being alert, and we heard that in our report, ask questions, ask what they are raising the money for, how much is going to the charity. and also when they got a
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registered charity number. but in the end, is it simpler and easier for people not to give on the street? what do you think?m for people not to give on the street? what do you think? it is a combination of your head and your heart, some really good advice for people giving to charities that they know, who are picking sensible routes to give, a way to ensure you are supporting a cause you love but also making sure you are not being exploited and your generosity is having the impact you want. we heard in our report about a scam that involved £2 out of every £10 going toa involved £2 out of every £10 going to a charity — is there a minimum thatis to a charity — is there a minimum that is charities should receive? not in law, the rules are that you need to disclose how much you‘re giving, so if someone approaches you on the street and cannot answer questions or is evasive about how much they are getting as the fundraiser, that is a warning. they should be able to tell you. if it is
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in the small print and somebody doesn‘t ask, there is nothing wrong with it, then? it is perfectly legal for a professionalfundraising organisation to take some money for its share. not every charity works in that way, and if it is something you feel strongly about, choose charities that do not work in that way. there is no set minimum, but hearing 20% going to the agency, rather than to the charity, that wouldn't be acceptable. what should a rule of thumb the? i do not think we can a rule of thumb the? i do not think we can said they limit, because different campaigns work in different campaigns work in different ways, but a general rule would probably be around 70—80%, if not higher, would go straight through to the charity. the important thing is that every charity, when you are working with
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an agency, you agree upfront what the cost is going to be, you make a decision in the best interests of the charity, and i would really be concerned, charities were making decisions that said that only 20% should come through to us. i think thatis should come through to us. i think that is where sarah and her team would get involved and check the charity was being run properly, if they were making that kind of decision. sarah, daniel, thank you very much indeed forjoining us. still to come, the london fire brigade, the city‘s mayor, and safety groups have warned more people will die from fires started by faulty white goods if ministers do not act to implement safety guidelines. we will talk to a woman who was made homeless after a fire in a tower block last year. ijust want i just want to bring you ijust want to bring you the latest on the breaking news out of marseille, where we have been hearing from police that a car has given into two bus stops, one person killed, one person injured. the
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police are saying that they don‘t know at this stage accident or intentional, but the suspected driver has been arrested. so that incident still ongoing, it happened in the old port area of marseille, and police are saying to avoid the area. we will stay across those reports and keep you updated. the manhunt for the driver of the barcelona van attack which killed 13 people and injured dozens more has been extended across europe, officials in spain have revealed this morning. 22—year—old younes abouyaaqoub has still not been found. it is feared he may have fled the country and slipped across the border into france. he was among 12 extremists that spanish police said had been planning attacks for around six months. meanwhile, the spanish newspaper el pais has released stills from cctv showing what is believed to be younes abouyaaqoub fleeing the scene on foot following the attack in barcelona‘s las
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ramblas. police say they are investigating the possibility that, 90 minutes later, he stabbed and killed a spanish man and stole his car. yesterday it was revealed that a seven—year—old british australian boy, julian cadman, was among the victims who died in the attacks in barcelona and campbells. let‘s speak to dr shiraz maher, who is an expert on radicalisation from king‘s college london, and will geddes, who is an expert on counter terrorism. thank you both for coming in. the focus now is on a man who is an imam who was working in a town where the attackers were based. tell us more about him, what is known about him? well, we are learning a lot more about him, he has travelled to
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belgium and been involved in network there, and he is known to have a number of radical connections down in spain, he spent time in prison as well, and it is believed he had connections to the men who carried out the 2004 madrid bombings in the name of al-qaeda. so it seems he has a pattern of associations with radical networks, and it is believed he was involved in a bomb—making factory where an explosion went off prematurely. looking back over what he isa prematurely. looking back over what he is a spec to have been involved m, he is a spec to have been involved in, dating back to madrid 2004, was he under surveillance? you would have been on the radar at some point in time. the madrid bombings in 2004, a lot of time has passed since then, so it is not clear if he was a person of injustice to the spanish, belgian french authorities, but it does demonstrate the scale of the problem that europe as a whole is facing now. —— a person of interest.
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isis has an least an unprecedented wave of terrorist attacks across the continent, overwhelming agencies in this country and on the continent. so the challenge and the scale of what is facing us right now is huge. whenever something happens and we sort of look at the potential signposts, people involved, should they have been under better surveillance, what are your thoughts now with this as more emerges about the characters involved ? now with this as more emerges about the characters involved? well, the interesting part is, in the wake of any kind of incident, is going to be gathering up the various morsels of intelligence and information about those that were connected, where they got their materials from, how they got their materials from, how they considered of those. so for example, the explosion just they considered of those. so for example, the explosionjust before the attack on las ramblas, they are looking at the component parts, there are 120 but then canisters that had been amassed. there was also some explosive, incredibly
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fragile, as they found out for themselves, and explosive component that was used in paris and belgium before. and they have also managed to apprehend the bomb maker, who will be a very valuable source of intelligence in terms of the levels of preparation, and also the wider network involved potentially. they believe this attack was planned for six months with a cell of 12. as you say, there was the explosion in what appeared to be a bomb factory. what you think about the level of surveillance there was and whether m ista kes surveillance there was and whether mistakes have been made? again, because of the sheer number of suspects that have to be monitored, the problem is that people will drop off the priority list of the intelligence agencies because they only have finite resource to monitor them. if we look at abdelbaki es satty, for example, although he had cross contamination, if you like, with one of the madrid bombers five
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years ago, when he was imprisoned for smuggling crashes to spain from morocco, he was also connected to an operation run by spanish intelligence in barcelona of those that were propagating radicalisation materials. so he was very much on the peripherals. we have seen time and again that it is not necessarily the key priority targets but those on the outskirts who are moving up the ranks. in terms of who is getting sucked in, those involved in this attack are all young — what does that say about the way radicalisation is happening, who is vulnerable and why? we tend to find lots of young people drawn to these causes. they become involved in terrorist activity are travelling to syria or iraq. one of the interesting things to look at is how isis has understood millennials.
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it understands how to connect with them. these are people who are thinking in 140 characters, not 140 pages. al-qaeda would release long books trying to recruit people. what isis does is it produces a very binary, simplistic choice, which appeals to emotion, which naturally resonate with young people looking for a panacea, looking for a quick fix, looking utopia. isis offer than that. thank you very much. still to come, 10 million people in the uk suffer from arthritis, including young people and children. but campaigners say it is being ignored as a major health issue and costing the nhs billions. and we talk to this woman, diagnosed with lung cancer last week. she has shared this photograph of herself taken hours shared this photograph of herself ta ken hours before shared this photograph of herself taken hours before her devastating diagnosis, explaining when you have cancer you will not necessarily looked ill on the outside. spanish police are investigating a possible link between thursday‘s attacks in spain and assaults by so—called islamic state
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in brussels last year. authorities believe an iman, abdelbaki es satty, may have radicalised younger members of the cell, which carried out the las ramblas and cambrils atrocities. they‘re also investigating whether he was involved in the bombings at brussels airport and a metro station in the city, which killed 32 people in march 2016. the suspect in last week‘s stabbing attack in finland that left two people dead and eight injured, was identified in court documents on monday as 18—year—old abderrahman mechkah. police have previously described the suspect as an asylum seeker from morocco, who deliberately targeted women in a stabbing spree on a market square in the southwestern town of turku, in what is being investigated as the country‘s first terror attack. hate crimes committed online should be treated as seriously as offences carried out face to face, according to new guidelines for prosecutors in england and wales.
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the crown prosecution service says it will seek tougher penalties for abuse on social media, which it says could lead to the type of extremist hate seen in charlottesville in the us. the move is part of a wider review of such crimes by the cps. the us navy says ten of its sailors are missing and five have been injured, after one of its warships collided with an oil tanker off the coast of singapore. it‘s the second serious collision involving an american warship in two months. president trump has said his thoughts and prayers are with the crew. big ben will ring out today for the last time on a daily basis in four years, as the houses of parliament undergo a major refurbishment. the bells will be muted for the longest period in their 157 year history. some mps have criticised the plan, saying the bell‘s chimes are an important part of national life. we will have those final bongs at
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midday. but for now, back to you. thank you very much. now the sport. antonio conte believes other clubs will be inspired to play tottenham at wembley this season. spurs are using the national stadium as their home ground this season. they lost 2—1 to chelsea yesterday, adding to their wembley woes. mo farah and his british track career with victory in the 3000 metres in birmingham. he is now switching to road racing but says as a kid he dreamt of running for britain. stuart broad says he wa nts to for britain. stuart broad says he wants to play in the 2019 asses against australia. he moved ahead of sir ian botham‘s 383 wickets in england‘s first test thrashing of the west indies at edgbaston. thank you. the uk‘s leading arthritis charity has told this programme the condition is a "major public health issue", and if it continues to be ignored it could
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cost the economy more than £3 billion by 2030. the nhs says around 10 million people have arthritis, and that it affects people of all ages, including children. to raise awareness of the condition — which can cause high levels of pain and fatigue — arthritis research uk has released a report which examines the long term impact it could have on the economy, the health service, individuals with the illness and their families. let‘s talk now to kirran gill, who was diagnosed with arthritis in her 20s. robert aggar, who ran marathons before developing arthritis. olivia belle, who is head of external affairs at arthritis research uk. and dr benjamin ellis, who is a consultant rheumatologist welcome all of you. bolivia, you are putting out some statistics today because you want to raise awareness. among the statistics, over 8% of the
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nhs budget is going to be spent on arthritis this year, more than 10 million people are living with it. those stats may surprise people?” think they do surprise people and thatis think they do surprise people and that is why we are running this campaign. we want to show the true impact arthritis has on individuals, and on the rest of society. and u nless and on the rest of society. and unless something changes in terms of awareness and understanding, we will continue to lose out on the talent and the contribution of many people. you were diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis six years ago. what impact has it got on your life?” arthritis six years ago. what impact has it got on your life? i can't underestimate the impact arthritis has had on my life, in all honesty. i was has had on my life, in all honesty. iwasa has had on my life, in all honesty. i was a teacher working full—time. due to arthritis i have had to give up my due to arthritis i have had to give up my career. i have ended up housebound and bedbound for more than 50% of the time. it has had a
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huge impact on my relationships. my financial status. and i feel like i ama financial status. and i feel like i am a prisoner in my own body, really. so described that? it is a bit like having a migraine in all of myjoints. along with that, is also a huge sense of fatigue. it is like a huge sense of fatigue. it is like a petrol gauge. ifi a huge sense of fatigue. it is like a petrol gauge. if i were to say that i start the day on the red, the light is already on, and that has a huge impact on relationships. my friendships, for example. and also concentration, memory. robert, describe what it is like for you living with arthritis? you used to run marathons. what is the impact been on you? about five years ago i was been on you? about five years ago i was planning to retire. i'd worked for 42 years. i had put my arrangements in place. i was given
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approval to actually pack up. i was playing golf. i was doing a lot of physical activity. at the very same timel physical activity. at the very same time i got these peculiar pains in my groin and my lower back. i had never experienced anything like it before. i went into the national health service system. i went to see different people. and eventually it was different people. and eventually it was diagnosed that i had got, my hip had totally worn out. there was no cartilage left. it wasjust bone on bone. the only thing they could offer me was a total hip replacement. at the same time the consultant said to me, by the way, i've got some other bad news. the other one will not last longer either. i had been through nine months of not getting proper sleep, not being able to walk around the park. i couldn't drive my car. i pack up work and i was pretty much stuck indoors. it was a dreadful time for me. eventually i got my hip replaced. i managed to get back out on the golf course. within 18 months, sure enough the other one
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give up as well. i went back into the system, spent another 18 months waiting. painful for the system, spent another 18 months waiting. painfulfor you, expensive for the nhs. exactly. massively expensive for the nhs. my operation cost about £25,000. you are putting these figures out today because you wa nt to these figures out today because you want to raise awareness. we have two people here who were two of many. what do you hope to achieve with the campaign? what practical differences? we are hoping that with arthritis being recognised as a public health priority, more information is accessible to people so that you can look after your muscular skeletal health, but also find out information about the different arthritis conditions that you might have. we also want more support to our health care professionals who are doing a fantastic job helping people. professionals who are doing a fantasticjob helping people. but
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actually, there are a variety of conditions under the term of arthritis. it is a load of information for gps who are —— we‘re trying to retain. more conversations. looking after muscular and skeletal health, doctor benjamin ellis is there. can people prevented ? benjamin ellis is there. can people prevented? is benjamin ellis is there. can people prevented ? is early benjamin ellis is there. can people prevented? is early diagnosis a good thing? you can't completely prevent your chances of getting arthritis but there is a lot to do you —— to reduce it. that includes being a healthy body weight, being physically active, it includes not smoking. smoking is a cause of some arthritis. what are the symptoms people should look for? the first thing you might notice if you are developing arthritis is the beginning of pain, stiffness, difficulty moving. those are the symptoms. difficulty doing everyday tasks using your hands, reaching for
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things that previously had been easy. when you start to get those symptoms, is it too late? is it going to get worse rather think you can do? absolutely not. early diagnosis is important. it is important to get a clear diagnosis. the treatment will be different. it will depend what sort of arthritis you have. if you have osteoarthritis like robert, physical activity, losing weight can be important. if you have rumoured —— rheumatoid arthritis, you will need specialist treatment to control the immune syste m treatment to control the immune system attacking your joints. treatment to control the immune system attacking yourjoints. one viewer says he is a retired gp. he feels a section of gps do not have empathy because it is such a common condition and they are opposed to the use of strong painkillers like opiates. they need to be more researchers and more research to alleviate the suffering. how were you both treated when you initially presented with symptoms?
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particularly you, karen, because you we re particularly you, karen, because you were particularly young. was arthritis even on your radar as something that may be causing you problems? it was on my radar simply because a family member had it. however, generally speaking, no, i didn't think at the age of 27 that would even be something i would be considering. generally it took a very long time to get through the syste m very long time to get through the system to get to see somebody who would test me for rheumatoid arthritis, because i think there is still a supposition that rheumatoid arthritis is something that happens as you get older, not when you are younger. kids can get it? absolutely. how young? you can be born with it. there are 12,000 young people living with a juvenile form of arthritis. is that genetic? there are. benjamin will no far better than i, but there are some inherited traits to some forms of arthritis, yes. 12,000, that's devastating if
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you are affected. but it is a relatively small number. as we are saying, it is a condition that affects millions of people. why is it not more talked about?l affects millions of people. why is it not more talked about? a number of reasons. we have talked about how it is dismissed as a natural part of getting older. what is old age? why is it acceptable to live in pain when you are older? that is one thing. also, i don‘t know whether it is the same for you, but many people have told us they don‘t want to be defined by their condition, they don‘t want to be the person always saying, i can‘t do this. you don‘t talk about it necessarily as much as you might do with other conditions. so really lifting the lid. that is the whole reason for this campaign, it is actually to say that by having a conversation about it, by talking about it, we can start recognising the problem and addressing it. caroline white got arthritis the
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same age as you. she has got in touch. she has had it for 30 years. she has battled non—with support from her gp, medication and surgery, but it has now begun to have a major impact on her life. she was a teacher but has to plan her life carefully, how close she can get, how much standing room there will be etc. people don‘t realise the impact it has, especially if you keep a cheerful face and try to continue. robert, do you feel like people around you understand the impact?- the time i didn't feel that people understood the full impact it was having on my way of life. it was affecting every aspect of my life at the time. and i was sort of doing whatever i could to ameliorate it. but the problem is it is a vicious circle. as soon as you get the condition, and it can come on very quickly, my other hip came on. i we nt quickly, my other hip came on. i went to a pilates class. i was trying to get my muscle tone back.
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the problem started. within a week i was the problem started. within a week i was ina the problem started. within a week i was in a real pickle. the trouble is then you become less active, you put on more weight, you become bored. and it must affect your mental health? absolutely. a terrible impact. it affects your relationship, you are stuck indoors all day. especially in the winter, it is dreadful. you can't get out and about, you can't drive the car. it is awful. it is awful. it is awful. it is dreadful. thank you all for coming in and helping to raise awareness. still to come, this is vicky veness hours before she was diagnosed with stage four lung cancer. doctors repeatedly told her that her symptoms were asthma — she‘ll be with us for her first tv interview. more people will die from fires started by faulty white goods if ministers do not act to implement recommendations, the london fire brigade, the city‘s mayor, and safety groups have warned.
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in a letter to theresa may, they say some fridges and freezers are being sold with a flammable plastic backing. people continue to use products that are subject to recalls, it adds. the warning comes a year after a tower block fire in west london started by a faulty tumble dryer. chantal froelich lives in shepherds court tower, where the fire started by the tumble dryer began. she was made omeless for three months. jill patterson is a lawyer at the legal firm leigh day and has been representing chantal and other familes affected by the fire. thank you both very much for coming m, thank you both very much for coming in, first of all, jill, to the best of your knowledge, when was the alarm raised about issues around 40 white goods? there has been a problem with product recall systems in the uk for quite some time, so a number years ago a man called sam ——
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sa ntosh number years ago a man called sam —— santosh benjamin died in a house fire, and the inquest lasted three weeks, and at the end of that the coroner provided a number of recommendations about how the system needed to change to ensure that consumers safety was protected better. after that, the government asked the consumer champion to chair asked the consumer champion to chair a report. she produced some findings some 18 months ago now, and still nothing has happened. since that time, other people have died in house fires associated with white goods. the shepherds court fire happened, it is just a goods. the shepherds court fire happened, it isjust a miracle goods. the shepherds court fire happened, it is just a miracle that, you know, it was not at night and that nobody died. you were made homeless by that fire, tell us what happened. so i live on the floor where the fire escapes to and couldn't get home for three and a
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half months. i'll so work in a block next door to where i live, and i saw the fire unfold. —— i also work. when we have this warning today from the mayor and london fire brigade is to say that not enough is being done to say that not enough is being done to protect people from these faulty white goods, what do you think?” ee, white goods, what do you think?” agree, i cannot believe these machines have not been recalled, that nothing has been done to prevent this kind of thing happening again. people dying in these fires, we are again. people dying in these fires, we are really lucky that it wasn't one of us. what could be done? there is also lots of different things that can be done. the london fire brigade have set out a number of them. the main issue is to say that them. the main issue is to say that the system is disjointed, so we need one sort of single place where all product recall is can be recorded, that people can access it and find out, you know, in a one—stop shop,
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whether their products are affected or not. but there is also enforcement issues, greater powers for trading standards, who are sort of the police force for product recall in the uk. what happens if you have got a mission in and the manufacturer gets in touch and says there is an issue with it? are you obliged not to continue using it? that is part of the problem, there isa that is part of the problem, there is a lot of confusion around the information given to consumers, so with the hotpoint tumble dryer, for example, it is subject to a safety notice. the people that were using the tumble dryer that was involved in the fire at shepherds court were following the manufacturer‘s instructions, continuing to use it, but making sure that there was someone in the flat at the time. and a really, ithink, someone in the flat at the time. and a really, i think, just the language
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thatis a really, i think, just the language that is used about products is not strong enough. so if people were to see the word fire or risk of death or that sort of thing, then they might take things more seriously. really personally, i think, that people should have the option to have the product taken away. shepherds court, the fire in your block, mercifully, did not spread very far — you were made homeless by it and others were affected, but when you subsequently saw what happened at grenfell, how did you feel? it was devastating, especially when i found out that it could potentially be connected to hotpoint, which was the cause of our fire. we don't want to get into things we do not know about, but fa u lty things we do not know about, but faulty white goods, same sort of cause. the impact that it had compared to our fire, the magnitude of it, it was awful, and it is devastating. why do you think it is,
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jill, that changes were recommended after the shepherd‘s bush fire have not been made? i think it will cost a lot of money to do it, and a —— i just do not think it is being taken seriously enough. but the question is, what more needs to happen for somebody to take action? this action this morning from the fire brigade is fantastic, and the number of people calling for this change, it wouldn‘t be something difficult for the government to do, so it is hard to understand why it is such a big issue for action to take place. thank you both very much. thank you. many of us might have an idea in our minds of what a typical cancer sufferer looks like. but vicky veness is trying to overturn those preconceptions, after being diagnosed with stage four lung cancer last week, despite looking perfectly fit and healthy. vicky, who is a personal trainer, started getting symptoms 18 months ago, but she was told by doctors
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she was suffering from exercise—induced asthma. despite her symptoms getting worse, she battled through, running a marathon and training people every day. it was only when a lump appeared on her neck that her cancer was discovered. the devastating diagnosis, explaining that, "when you have cancer, you won‘t necessarily look ill on the outside." and i‘m pleased to say vicky is speaking to us now in her first tv interview. thank you very much indeed for joining us. tell us more about why you decided to put out that photograph. well, when i was initially diagnosed, i was in com plete initially diagnosed, i was in complete and utter shock, ijust couldn‘t believe this was happening to me. and i‘ve always been healthy, i‘m a personal trainer, to me. and i‘ve always been healthy, i‘m a personaltrainer, i run marathons, and this just seemed
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unbelievable. basically, this led me to my decision that i need to tell people that this illness is notjust for smokers, and basicallyi people that this illness is notjust for smokers, and basically i want to let everyone know the symptoms so that they can spot them early and don‘t end up with a stage four diagnosis, like myself. do you think the fact that you look so healthy, and you are a fitness instructor, running marathons, is that what put doctors off be sent in terms of what might have been wrong with you?” think so, because obviously i am not the stereotypical type of person you expect to have lung cancer. i mean, myself included, i would not have believed that this was possible. so you said about the symptoms that you had over a period of months, 18 months — what was the first you experienced? well, when i was training for the land and marathon, that was really the first time that
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i noticed that something was wrong. —— the london marathon. when i came back from a training run, my lungs would feel really heavy, like i couldn‘t get enough air in. would feel really heavy, like i couldn't get enough air in. and it was initially treated as asthma, thatis was initially treated as asthma, that is a diagnosis that might have made sense, did you feel that was correct? well, at the time, because idoa lot of correct? well, at the time, because i do a lot of exercise, i was diagnosed with exercise—induced asthma, so i thought that that was definitely possible, and i also went on to run a good marathon, so ijust assumed that it must be correct. but you kept going back to doctors, why was that? because really the inhaler is, i was given inhaler is, and i was given tablets, and i did think that they were doing a great deal. did you ever suspected might be lung cancer? no, never, i could never
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have imagined. i still can‘t believe it, really, no, iwouldn‘t have thought this at all. so when you we re thought this at all. so when you were told it was lung cancer, how did you react? it was, as i said before, just complete and utter shock, i couldn‘t believe that it was happening. are you angry? no, i don‘t feel like that at all, so since i have been diagnosed, i have been trying to take positive and put all my efforts into raising awareness that this doesn‘t happen to somebody else and also getting ready to fight this illness. and tell us more about the symptoms, you wa nt tell us more about the symptoms, you want people to recognise the symptoms. yes, so for me, i don't necessarily have a really nasty cough. it is just a tiny dry calf that you probably wouldn‘t even notice unless you knew that i had lung cancer. —— dry cough. it is not
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chest it, it is very subtle, and my actual diagnosis wasn‘t based on the cough, so it is really important that if you have a cough that lasts for a long time, you go to your doctor‘s. for a long time, you go to your doctor's. so when you say a cough that lasts a long time, over what period of time did you have this cough? right from the beginning, right from the beginning, yeah, it has never gone away. it will be easily make people think, you know, with any sort of an ailing calf that they should perhaps be worried, what would you say? go to the doctor's, get them to check your lungs have a peak flow, and get them to check your lungs have a peakflow, and if get them to check your lungs have a peak flow, and if things don‘t get better after three weeks or four weeks, go back and get another check, keep going back. the thing is, you did keep going back. yeah, i did. and you were given the all
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clear in terms of lung cancer. that is correct. i am hoping this awareness campaign will make lots of people realise that it is not always a smoker, it is not always an older person, it can literally be anybody, andi person, it can literally be anybody, and ijust person, it can literally be anybody, and i just hope person, it can literally be anybody, and ijust hope people will look at this and my spots. what is happening now is the diagnosis in terms of treatment? at the moment, i haven't started any treatment. i am still waiting, iam started any treatment. i am still waiting, i am going to start on wednesday. i haven‘t had a proper chat with my oncologists yet, that will happen tomorrow, and then hopefully from there i can start to get better. how is everybody reacting around you? it is unbelievable, i am overwhelmed at the level of support that my post online received, it hasjust
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the level of support that my post online received, it has just been amazing race about what is happening with them as well. i am feeling really positive, really good, and i am still working at the moment, and iam am still working at the moment, and i am still training and doing everything as normal. we really wish you all the very best, thank you very much indeed forjoining us. thank you. let mejust bring thank you. let me just bring you a thank you. let mejust bring you a quick thank you. let me just bring you a quick update on what is happening in marseille, one person has been killed and one injured after a car trove into two bus stops in different parts of the city. it is not clear at this stage if it was an accident or deliberate, the latest coming up on bbc news live. i will see you at the same time tomorrow. bye—bye. good morning. it will start to turn quite warm and humid over the next
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few days, but not necessarily sunny. in fact, this morning we have lots of cloud across many parts of england and wales, add breaks brain moving northwards, particularly across wales, northern ireland. —— outbreaks of rain. the best sunshine is in the north—east of scotland, temperatures here about 14—17. in the south, up to about 20 celsius. through this evening, the rain moves further northwards, and for many on thursday quite cloudy again, but brea ks thursday quite cloudy again, but breaks developing across the south, where it will turn pretty warm. further north, the rain not quite reaching you, but heavy rain into northern ireland and the west of scotland. big ben is about to be silenced for repairs for the coming years, the
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last dominic cook the penultimate chimes from big ben. big ben chimes
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