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need care. they are as those who need care. they are fundamental to any society that claims to be advanced or democratic. yet, these rights, your rights as workers, hard won over generations are currently being sacrificed by this conservative government on the altar of a failing and ever more ruthless form of capitalism. increasingly, flexible employment is sold to others as a benefit, they call it the gig economy. who doesn't like going to a gig? of course, it isa like going to a gig? of course, it is a benefit to unscrupulous employers but it is the source of continuous worry and insecurity for millions of people. and is in part responsible for the worsening mental health of a country that has lost over 6000 mental health nurses in recent yea rs. when employers want genuine flexible
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work, tuc researchers found that shamefully, those parents and carers, often women, requesting flexible working all too often found themselves punished instead with fewer hours, fewer opportunities to progress and some even losing their jobs. so, the next labour government will take action right across—the—board to will take action right across—the—boa rd to help will take action right across—the—board to help protect people in the work place. although we'd like to see another general election as soon as possible that delivers more labour gains than this timea labour delivers more labour gains than this time a labour government, in the meantime, we'll challenge the government in parliament and outside every step of the way to defend working people, stand by you, the trade unions battling for people's rights day in and day out. applause. rights are won by all of us
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together. but they have to be co nsta ntly together. but they have to be constantly defended and enforced and that's why we are opposing the tory‘s dangerous eu withdrawal bill. not out of any attempt to frustrate the vote to leave but because of the exth extraordinary unaccountable powers it would hand to a tory government. to impose decisions, scrap protections, rip up workers' rights without parliament having any say whatsoever. this is a threat to every worker in this country. you simply cannot trust the tories with your rights at work and that's why labour voted against the bill last night. applause. there is no doubt that the british work place is already one of the most equal in the world. we have a huge and damaging imbalance of power between employers and employees
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which has led to the proliferation of low—wage jobs, which has led to the proliferation of low—wagejobs, race to which has led to the proliferation of low—wage jobs, race to the bottom agency workers, zero hours contracts and employers avoiding paying sick pay, holiday pay and even the minimum wage through bogus self—employment. that has been effectively targeted by unions such as the gmb such as with uber— workers. such practices are rife throughout the gig economy which presents itself as somehow modern and dynamic, but all too often, uses technology as a cover to deny both employees and customers basic protections. technological innovation is crucial for our economic success. but, technological advance cannot represent real progress if it means we drag back to
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19th century employment practices or it's used to impose deregulation that leaves people without dignity or security. applause. technological advance is driving change in the economy and the work place at unprecedented speeds. but what is not inevitable is who benefits from it. we need a government and an economic and industrial policies that are not stuck in some 1980s time warp of nigh owe liberal dogma but are driven by the need to channel and shape technological change to benefit the many, not the few —— neo—liberal. that will not happen if we leave to it the market or corporate board rooms. the bank of england estimates that 15 million jobs could be at risk of automation over the next decade. and, as is so
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often the way, those most at risk are those who're paid the least. the deregulated gig economy is right for automation, it's no basis for economy advance and rising living standards. no — that demands high investment in the cutting edge jobs of the future. when you add to conservative's continuing determination to hack away at the role of the state cutting investment, squeezing public services and removing your rights, it's not hard to see the dangers of the present course we are headed on. we already know that the tory way of running the economy has dramatically widened regional inequalities. sharply increased the wealth gap with tax breaks for the few and public services cuts for the many. and the tory approach to brexit is to use the process of leaving to go
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much further, much faster in that direction, delivering a deregulated free market tax haven off the shores of europe, underpinned by a race to the bottom trade deal with donald trump, a shangri—la for bosses and bankers but nothing of the kind for everybody else. because that is the real divide over brexit. a tory brexit to drive down standards or a labour version that puts jobs first. we standards or a labour version that putsjobs first. we respect standards or a labour version that puts jobs first. we respect the result of the referendum but we want a jobs first brexit which guarantees full access to the european market as part of a new trade agreement and relationship with the european union which maintains and develops workers' rights, consumer and environmental protections. and uses powers, return from brussels, to support a new industrial strategy with investment in good jobs, in
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every region and nation of britain. where work pays, where employees have security and decent conditions and prosperity is shared by the true wealth creators, the workforce. when wealth creators, the workforce. when we leave the eu, the current free movement rules will end, labour wa nts to movement rules will end, labour wants to see fair rules and management of migration, fair rules that put jobs, living management of migration, fair rules that putjobs, living standards and the economy first, not fake immigration targets as the tories do that will never be met. and, we will continue to assert that the rights of european union nationals must be guaranteed immediately. we must never allow ourselves to be duped and divided. it isn't migrants who drive down wages and conditions but unscrupulous employers supported bya but unscrupulous employers supported by a government that slashes rights
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and protections at work whenever it gets the chance. it's a movement that's been the bedrock of resisting racism and fascism in the work place and on the streets and we must continue to oppose the division that the far right would seek to impose. so, if we want to tackle low pay and insecure work, we need a labour government strengthening workers' rights, enforced by strong trade unions taking action, to prevent employers undercutting pay and conditions, not closed war borders, xenophobic intimidation and scapegoating. that is why our general election manifesto set out a 20—point plan for security and equality at work, including equal rights for all from day one in a job, banning zero hours contracts,
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guaranteeing unions a right of access to work places. raising the minimum wage to a real living wage, ending the public sector pay cap. setting maximum pay ratios of 20—1 in the public sector and beyond. banning unpaid internships, doubling paternity pay, reinstating protection against harassment in work and support the dying to work campaign to protect workers suffering from terminal illnesses. applause. but ultimately, protections at work depend on those who work themselves. winning a labour government even one with a programme to transform the country which is now our goal is simply not enough. that's why the
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most important thing any workers can do isjoina most important thing any workers can do isjoin a trade union. cheering and applause. and i want young people, especially, to hear this message — many young people have recently got involved in politics for the first time. tens of thousands of young people have joined the labour party in the recent months and at the recent general election we saw the long—running decline in young people voting totally reversed with young people voting in higher numbers than they have for a generation. politics is about power and democratic politics is about putting power in the hands of the many, not just the few. the principle applies to the work place too — if you want a job that pays a decent wage, that
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givious a chance to get on in life, live independently and enjoy your work, thenjoin a live independently and enjoy your work, then join a trade live independently and enjoy your work, thenjoin a trade union. applause. and for those watching, wherever you are, go online and do it today. you will never regret it. applause. trade unions are often demonised in the right—wing press. i know it's a real shock to you that billionaire tax dodging press barons don't like trade unit yous. i know it's a shock and i'm sorry to bring you this kind of news. and do you know what, they don't like us because our movement, through which the values of solidarity and community and social justice run like a thread from
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top—to—bottom, our movement challenges unaccountable power of both government and bosses. but of course, the power of the billionaires who control great chunks of the media isn't what it was. they tried to dictate the election result in june they tried to dictate the election result injune with a blizzard of propaganda, and millions of voters simply ignored them. trade unions don't just simply ignored them. trade unions don'tjust defend their members, they defend the institutions that benefit all employees. 0ur employees. our national health service, our schools, our social care and they defend our rights. we don't know when the next general election will come. we are not in control of that. but you are in control of whether you join a trade union. 0rganise in your work place or in your community and start changing people's lives for the better right now. applause.
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we don't know how long it will take but this weak and chaotic government will be prised out of downing street and we know that the advances we made in the general election injune arejust a powerful spring board to win the radical labour government we wa nt to win the radical labour government we want to see. so together we can change our country. so it truly works for the many, not the few. applause. thank you, congress. the labour leader talking at the tuc conference in brighton. 0ur political correspondent, iain watson is there and was listening to that. lots of urging of people to join a union if they aren't already a
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member of one. your thoughts on some of those key points there, iain? there is a big picture from jeremy corbyn, i thought perhaps he was trying to manage expectations when he said this, but he said simply winning a labour government wouldn't be enough to transform the country. perhaps a rather odd way of putting it, but i think the message he was trying to get akroos was he had to be part of a wider labour movement and he was saying to younger people attracted to him that they ought to be joining attracted to him that they ought to bejoining a trade union and he'll bejoining a trade union and he'll be working with the trade unions to try to change society. he's a former trade union official of course, before he was an mp. he sounded warmer towards the trade unions than his predecessors. he said he wanted to manage migration and get access to manage migration and get access to single market. if he were to become prime minister sooner rather than later, he might find that a bit ofa than later, he might find that a bit of a challenge. 0ne than later, he might find that a bit of a challenge. one of the specific issues dominating the news today, he was very issues dominating the news today, he was very clear and that was on of course the pay cap. he said
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effectively the government was trying to buy public service workers off on the cheap when they gave the police effectively a 2% increase and prison officers a 1.7% increase, both of these increases breached the government's own pay cap, they are talking about more flexibility next yearfor public talking about more flexibility next year for public service workers as well. jeremy corbyn said he agreed with the leader of the prison 0fficers' association who described their increase as a pay cut because he said inflation was running at nearly 3%. so jeremy corbyn he said inflation was running at nearly 3%. sojeremy corbyn very clear, he saw that as a cut and repeated the pledge to lift the pay cap in the public sector across—the—board if cap in the public sector across—the—boa rd if labour get elected. we are going to talk to you again later. thank you very much for now. that all dove tails very well with the inflation figures today. this all comes as new figures show that inflation has hit its highest rate for 5 years boosted by rising clothing and fuel prices — putting more pressure
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on household budgets. figures from the office for national statistics show the consumer price index was 2.9% in august, higher than predicted. the news led to a sharp rise in the pound. here's our economics correspondent andy verity. with every month, the average wage buys less of this. for most of the last ten years, food prices kept on dropping, as did the price of many imported goods. but then the pound dropped in value. firms like this cake shop now have to spend more pounds to get the dollars or euros they need to get the supplies from abroad. and now, those cost rises are feeding through. big increase in the price of butter, which has gone up 100% over the last 12 months and a big increase in the price of sugar which has gone up by a0%. for us, it will definitely not mean changing the ingredients or downsizing the size of portions and things like that so we have put our prices up by about 10% over the last year, which has helped.
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we've obviously looked at our suppliers and done a lot of work to reduce the costs they're passing on to us. companies with rising costs face a dilemma, especially in a competitive industry like food. raise prices too much and customers might go elsewhere. raise them too little, and those higher costs will start eating into whatever profit you hope to make. at 2.90%, inflation returned to a four—year high which was first hit last may. among the pressures on the cost of living was petrol, up 5.1%, and clothing, which also rose by 5.1%. in the city, traders had not expected the cost of living to rise quite this fast. now, the prediction is that interest rates might arise from their record low as soon as possible. —— as soon as february.
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that pushed up the value of the pound this morning, as set against the dollar. but some economists still think there is no need to raise rates any time soon. the bank of england has a difficult decision to make on this, because inflation is rising well above wage growth, and that means that household incomes are being squeezed. we think that they will probably keep interest rates unchanged for another couple of years. whether for luxuries or essentials, prices on average continue to rise faster than the average wage. but for now, most of the interest rate setters at the bank of england are sticking to their belief that this latest bout of inflation and the squeeze on living standards are temporarily. 700 british troops and 50 police officers have been deployed to help in the clean—up from hurricane irma. a quarter of all homes have been
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destroyed in the keys. a tropical paradise reduced to rubble. this is tortola — the largest of the british virgin islands and the most heavily populated. just imagine trying to live here now. there are 14 other inhabited islands in the bvi just like this. the people here are british citizens and they are looking to the uk for help. and britain is helping. at raf brize norton, giant transport aircraft have been loaded with hundreds of tonnes of aid for the region. they are taking emergency supplies as well as timber and building equipment. there have been eight such flights in the past few days, and the government rejects criticism that its response has been too slow. we responded very quickly. we had a ship there already, not by chance, we always put a ship into the region for the hurricane season. that ship has been helping since thursday in anguilla and the british virgin islands. we have 900 troops out there now. we have three helicopters out there.
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the aid effort is under way. hms 0cean sets off from gibraltar today with a crew of 700 who specialise in disaster relief. they won't arrive in the caribbean until late next week, but they'll be part of what the british government says will be a long—term reconstruction effort. we're just determined to get on scene as quick as we can and maximise the support, because it's notjust about the here and now, this is going to be a long recovery operation and we'll be very well—placed to assist with that reconstruction. the building materials that i've got on board, the timber, will go a long way to assisting in the recovery. the scale of this disaster will be something the foreign secretary, borisjohnson, will see for himself over the next few days when he arrives in the region. 0n tortola, he'll find long lines of people trying to get food and water. and a sense of growing panic about what the future holds. several of the worst—hit caribbean countries are french,
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and president macron arrived in guadeloupe to see what more was needed. his government has asked for british help with the aid effort. on st martin, mr macron's next stop, the slow and dirty work of the clean—up continues. the islanders here have been doing this for days. not everyone has the means to clear up, says wilfred. i'm lucky to have gloves but there are many who don't. in florida, the recovery is going to cost tens of billions of dollars. this is 0rlando — at least 5 billion people at least 5 million people are still without power in florida. many have been returning to ruined homes. the florida keys, an island chain in the south, were worst hit and are still cut off. irma didn't discriminate as it barrelled through a vast swathe of territory, taking homes, property and livelihoods of anyone in its path. richard lister, bbc news. sir peter hall has died at the age
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of 86. he founded the royal shakespeare company at the age of just 29 and went on to become the director of the national theatre. nick higham looks back at the life and career of a man described as a colossus. i think she wants to be that side of the camera. give me a stage and three actors and a text and i have the confidence to know instinctively what should be done. he started as britain's most talented young director, charismatic and adventurous. samuel beckett's waiting for godot was a theatrical bombshell — atjust21i, peter hall directed the uk premiere. at stratford, aged 29, he created the royal shakespeare company. not bad for the working—class son of a railwayman. we are not going to read the play — embarrass each other and ourselves. the rsc was a company of international standard which attracted the very best actors.
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peggy ashcroft was one, here in an early hall triumph — a reworking of shakespeare's henry vi plays as the wars of the roses. sir peter was a visionary. he was a colossus, striding the world of the british theatre. in a way it would be iniquitous to pick out any individual production. i think his greatest legacy must be the company he formed, the royal shakespeare company. but the wunderkind suffered a nervous breakdown and quit. only to re—emerge as laurence 0livier‘s successor as director of the new national theatre being built on london's southbank. he revelled in his new role. it is a very, very complex, very stimulating job because it is both concerned with management and with art. he combined creative flair with a phenomenal workrate, administrative skill and formidable
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powers of persuasion. ah, yes. he transferred national productions like amadeus to the commercial stage, and later formed his own company to direct classics and new plays in london, bath and on tour. he loved opera too, and for six years was artistic director at glyndebourne, where he demonstrated that an opera's director can be as important as its conductor. and he also made films like this nostalgic portrait of rural life in a suffolk village like the one he'd grown up in. he gets to here, somewhere — he trips. you will appreciate we can only do it once. it was shot mainly at weekends, using amateur actors. it was the work of a fine director and talented impresario, who ended his career as the grand
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old man of british theatre. you can see a special tribute programme to sir peter hall at 9 tonight on bbc four. way talk a bit more about our main story here today: the government's announced a pay rise for police and prison officers which breaches the 196 prison officers which breaches the 1% public sector pay cap. prison officers will get a rise of i.7%, police officers will get i% officers will get a rise of i.7%, police officers will get 1% plus a 196 police officers will get 1% plus a 1% bonus for one year. all of this though will be paid from existing departmental budgets. let's talk to the liberal democrat mp alastair carmichael who joins the liberal democrat mp alastair carmichael whojoins me from the liberal democrat mp alastair carmichael who joins me from the lobby in the commons. very good
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afternoon to you. good afternoon, hi. what do you make of this first of all broadly in terms of, we are talking about police officers, prison officers, what about other public sector workers? well, in terms of police and prison officers, it's obvious hi sensible, it's necessary and good news. the same is true of the position of other public sector workers, like those in schools hospitals, nurses, teachers, there are already recruitment crises in these sectors as well and frankly rather than go through this whole salah mist—slicing process, i think the government would do us all a favour if they would do something to address the problem of morale that there is within our public public service —— salami—slicing. there is within our public public service -- salami-slicing. the rises, as some unions point out, are
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still well below inflation. the police unions saying members haven't had a pay rise for more than seven yea rs ? had a pay rise for more than seven years? i think that is well understood and the position of inflation is not something the police officers, prison officers and teachers are responsible, that's something that's down to the government, in particular this is something that i think we are going to have to deal with for the foreseeable future. the recruitment prices that have already been spoken about is something that we can foresee particularly in the health service becoming more acute if the government insists pushing on with the reckless brexit taking us out of the reckless brexit taking us out of the single market, the customs union and the cliff edge end to free movement of people. there is no new money for the pay rises that are happening either though — are we in a situation — as
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a society, where the only way the do this now is to put up taxes to fund it. what would you do? that is the question the government needs to address. the days of robbing peter to pay paul have gone and we need to get real about the fact that we need to put more into our public services, especially into our health service. that was something we recognised in the general election past in june where recognised in the general election past injune where a modest increase in the level of income tax was part of our policy manifesto. so that is absolutely what you would do if you were in number 11, that is the only way to give all the public sector workers that you have mentioned a pay rise that deals with the fact they haven't had one for many, the fact they haven't had one for any the fact they haven't had one for many, many years? well, look, this will have to be approached department by department. i don't know what flexibility there is within budgets, but frankly you don't really do anything to improve the morale of teachers by giving
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them an increase in their wage at them an increase in their wage at the end of the month if at the same time there aren't the books for them to use when they're in the classroom. alastair carmichael, we must leave it there. thank you for bearing with the ambient noise there in the lobby, thank you. much more on that story in the next half hour. we'll pause and catch up with the weather prospects. the met office have named the first storm of the season called aileen heading towards the uk and will be bringing some wet and windy weather with it later tonight. for northern ireland and scotland, the wrindz not such a feature but for england and wales, gusts widely between a0 and 50mph, locally 60mph across western and channel coasts. for a across western and channel coasts. fora time, we across western and channel coasts. for a time, we could see gusts of up
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to 75mph in northern england. that is likely to bring damage to trees, maybe some trees down as well and certainly disruption to travel and transport. that storm slowly pushes away east tomorrow morning, still some gale force winds along the east coast for a time. slowly they will ease. a windy day overall but the winds will have lost some of their strength. another day of sunshine and showers, but certainly a cool feel given the strength of the wind and highs of between ia and 18. feel given the strength of the wind and highs of between ia and i8. bye. hello, this is bbc news, i'm jane hill. the headlines: the 1% cap on public sector pay increases is to be partially lifted. prison officers will get a i.7% salary boost this year while police officers will get a 1% rise, plus a further 1% bonus. labour leader, jeremy corbyn,
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has told an audience at the tuc conference, in brighton, that his party would end the public sector pay cap altogether and said the government's promise of flexibility over pay was an "attempt to divide and rule." the uk's inflation rate climbed to itsjoint highest level in more than five years last month, reaching 2.9%. the foreign secretary, borisjohnson, flies to the caribbean today amid criticism of the speed of the british government's response to hurricane irma. founder of the royal shakespeare company and former national theatre director, sir peter hall, has died aged 86. more on many of those stories to come, but we will catch up with the sports news. we can hand over to
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0lly foster. sports news. we can hand over to olly foster. hello. it's the start of the the champions league group stage this evening and neymar is in glasgow to take on scottish champions celtic with his paris st germain team—mates. he cost the french side a world record £200 million. also in their ranks is kylian mbappe and edinson cavani, a £a00 million front—line that is the most expensive ever assembled. celtic let in nine goals home and away to barcelona last season, but did manage two draws against manchester city. the eyes of the world will be on this game. it's one that, like i say, we're in a real good condition to go into the tournament this time. the players are very clear on how they work, very clear in terms of how we land handle these types of pressure games. this is a game to go and enjoy. all matches kick—off at 7.a5pm tonight. barcelona againstjuventus is another stand—out match. premier league champions chelsea are at home and face champions league debutants qara bag from azerbaijan. manchester united were in the europa league last season, but won it to qualify
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for the champions league. first up for them, swiss side basle at old trafford. the opponent has the aim ambition as we have. the opponent can come here, as they did in the past, and give manchester united a bad taste. but, no, we go to this match thinking that we can win. we will go to the second match in moscow thinking that we can win. we will go to lisbon in that match thinking we can win. mourinho gave an interesting interview over the wekekend in which he said that manchester united failed to evolve after sir alex ferguson left the club in 2013. he said it was an "empty period" under david moyes and louis van gaal. the man who first apppointed sir alex, and is life president at the club, agrees that they didn't get their recruitment right.
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i think whoever succeeded sir alex ferguson it was a hell of a job. i thought david moyes was a brave man to take it on. it didn't work out for him. van gaal came and, unfortunately, the style of football, for those two years, is not who manchester united supporters had become accustomed to. therefore, they didn't particularly take to it. jose arrived last year. it's taken him a season or so to get his way, but he did exceptionally way in winning two trophies last year. sam warburton will miss the rugby union autumn internationals. the cardiff blues and wales flanker has suffered a recurrence of a long—standing neck injury and needs surgery. he captained the lions in the drawn series against new zealand this summer and was due to face the all blacks again for his country. he exacerbated the problem training with blues this week and is expected to be out for up to four months. after winning their test series, england meet the west indies again in a t20 international on saturday before the 50—over one day
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series starts next week. star man chris gayle is back for the windies. he's the greatest 2020 batsman ever so, irrelevant of his age, he still clears the rope with ease. he has that x factor, he's a game changer. there's loads of batters that when you get them out you realise they're big wickets, but he's right up there. do you think he'll remember that dismissal? well, let's hope i get him again, and he'll remember that one. that's all sport for now. more in the next hour. more now on our main story. the government has announced a pay rise for police and prison officers which breach the 1% public sector pay cap. prison officers will get a i.7% rise, while police will get a i% pay rise, plus a 1% bonus for the year. this will be paid for through money from existing departmental budgets. mark serwotka is the general
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secretary of the public and commercial services union. he joins us from the tuc conference in brighton. win. good afternoon. thank you for joining us from probably quite a noisy area, but what are your thoughts, first of all, about the fa ct thoughts, first of all, about the fact thatter with' getting — there are going possible pay rises for some public sector workers, not for others? well, i've got a few thoughts. first of all, any offer that doesn't give pay rises for all public sector workers is not good enough. we all deserve a pay rise shall not just staff enough. we all deserve a pay rise shall notjust staff in uniform, but eve ryo ne shall notjust staff in uniform, but everyone — education, health and the civil service and local governments. secondly, what we're being told here, about the government's so—called concession i think is pretty miserable. i talked to the prison officers association who said the offer is i.a%, not i.7%. £a00 a
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year. inflation is 2.9%. a further cut in living standards of prison officers and police officers and it's just nowhere near good officers and police officers and it'sjust nowhere near good enough. would you say members of your union would be minded to strike over this because it's something that len mccluskey has been very vocal about today? yes. we seconded the motion here yesterday, unanimously carried. we called for co—ordinated industrial action against the whole of the public sector if the government doesn't use the budget to scrap the pay cap, put money into the public sector, to increase budgets and allow for above inflation pay rises. members working injob centres, courts inflation pay rises. members working in job centres, courts and inflation pay rises. members working injob centres, courts and prisons had seven years of pay cuts, £3,500 worse off in real terms. any pay rise this year that is less than inflation is a further pay cut. we are balloting all of our members next month on the question of industrial action to see whether they are prepared to take action if
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they are prepared to take action if the government don't change course. imean the government don't change course. i mean shall i was talking to someone from the tax payers' alliance who said on average a public sector worker was 10% better off than a private—sector worker, pa rt off than a private—sector worker, part is due to having a decent pension. they should realise things aren't as bad as they think compared to the private—sector, what do you say about that? sounds like the taxpayers' alliance who haven't a clue what it's like to work in the public service, surviving on poverty pay where your pension is cut, redundancy pay is cut. hundreds of thousands of your scleegs lost their jobs we have to take an eighth year of pay cuts. frankly, most people understand that that is not reasonable. what we don't want is inequality of misery we want the public and private—sector to have
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pay increases not cuts in their living standards because there is a crisis at the moment and something must be done about it. many thanks for now. much more we can talk about. thank you for now. in terms of matters financial, to tell you we have heard that the budget will be on november 22nd. the date has been announced. the chancellor has just announced. the chancellor has just announced it. i can see he'sjust appearing in front of a lord's committee. that session hasjust begunin committee. that session hasjust begun in the last few minutes. 0ne wonders whether he might be asked about pay. let us listen in to some of this and find out... an ability to change the terms. but on the basis that it would have to provide compensation to the purchaser to be assessed independently and objectively. is the obr expects that
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the acured trn student loans would sub tract £3 billion from the deficit this year alone. they also said that the write—offs associated with loans are not expected to pick up with loans are not expected to pick up until the with loans are not expected to pick up untilthe mid with loans are not expected to pick up until the mid 20a0s. they went on to scribe this as a fiscal illusion. do you agree with that? well, i don't see it as a fiscal illusion. perhaps colleagues around the table who've had the experience in the treasury may have some sympathy with the general description of public sector accounting of something of a fiscal illusion. it's a very particular system, but i think that
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i have understood how our accounting for all stages of a life of a student loan works during the life of the loan on the government's books and at the point where we tra nsfer books and at the point where we transfer it to the private—sector. i don't think it's an illusion, but i think it is a matter of mrjustice peterjacksonment at which stage in the life of the loan is the correct point to recognise some of the design impairam. —— impairment. this stream of loans is designed to be impaired during their lifetime. there is no exception of 100% recovery. why the full amount of interest payable of student loans
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recorded in the public sector as it accrues when 70% of students won't repay in full? i'm afraid i can't tell you why that is the requirement of the national statistician. these things are agreed with internationally agreed accounting standards. having been discussing this matter over the last few weeks it's quite difficult and sometimes counterintuitive to understand how each transaction in the life cycle ofa each transaction in the life cycle of a loan is recorded, but i'm satisfied that what we are doing is correct and in accordance with the requirements of the 0ns. correct and in accordance with the requirements of the ons. 0k. thank you. in 2016—17 the fair value... we will keep an eye on that and an ear across it and if there are exchanges in front of the lord's committee we
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will let you know. the issue of public sector pay may come up. at the start of that session, philip hammond, announcing the budget will be on the 22nd november. almost a00,000 people have now fled across the borderfrom myanmar to bangladesh since an upsurge in violence at the end of august. the prime minister of bangladesh has visited one of the refugee camps set up for the rohingya muslims who've poured into the country seeking shelter. sheikh hasina has called on myanamar to take the refugees back, saying they were their people. the un is holding an urgent meeting tomorrow to discuss the crisis. reeta chakrabati is at one of the refugee camps and gave us this update. well, it's nearly three weeks since this crisis began and the conditions in which nearly a00,000 people are living remain pitiful. i don't know how much you can see behind me. in a sense, the people who are just
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behind me are relatively lucky, they have the money, the means to buy themselves bamboo and tarpaulin to make a basic shelter. 0ther themselves bamboo and tarpaulin to make a basic shelter. other people are sitting on the bin bags by the side of the road or standing under trees in the forest. perhaps they have no money at all, perhaps they are too dazed to be able to build something for themselves. into this misery today came the bangladeshi prime minister to see for herself the conditions on the ground. she was openingly critical of the myanmar government. this woman is nine months pregnant. she is expecting any day. but this is where she is living with 15 other family members and is almost certainly where she will have to give birth. translation: i am worried. there is no help. nobody is getting any food. here there is no rice, no vegetables, nothing. i'm starving.
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she hiked the seven days through hills and jungle to get here, after her village was burnt to the ground. we've seen her and her family moved on by the authorities. and driven off the land by fellow refugees. many nights, she's had to sleep under the skies despite the monsoon rain. now her baby is sick and her husband has jaundice. and tens of thousands of other refugees are, like her, living in these filthy, makeshift cities that are mushrooming on the muddy hilltops here. they arrive bewildered. if they want a plastic sheet or bamboo to make a shelter, they pgy- they often have to fight just to get food. these guys are well—meaning
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bangladeshisjust trying to help out, butjust look how chaotic this is. it is so demeaning for these people to have to beg for food. there is growing criticism of the way bangladesh is handling this crisis. we have to give them shelter so that they can live and they can get some food and medication. all the big international aid bodies and agencies are here, but the government has put restrictions on what they can do and where they can work. we're doing the best we can with the government. there needs to be more co—ordination. we need to sit together and plan better. we need to mobilise support. itjust seems as if it's not being organised. there's no kind of organisation here. the airlifts are coming in. we're bringing tents, we're bringing relief items.
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what needs to happen next is for us to work closer together, to make sure that the land is allocated, temporary shelter is provided, so things can be a little more organised. and that is what we are discussing with the government, to see how we can provide assistance, notjust unhcr, but other agencies, provide assistance in an equitable way. and while that discussion takes place, just look at this. refugees sit amongst a litter of unwanted clothes. they've been given out of generosity, but what these people really need is nutritious food, fresh water, sanitation. somewhere clean to live and to sleep. roshida needs medical care and a safe, clean place to have her baby. what she, what all the refugees need, is a home. justin rowlatt, bbc news. i'm joined by chris. you are
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responsible for co—ordinating aid, how do you answer that? the answer is this is an unprecedented situation. as you said, nearly a00,000 people have come across in about 17 days since august 25th. the contingency plans were for a small number of people over a longer period. what you are seeing is aid agencies kicking in their supply lines and sending in people and the co—ordination taking place which will result in more aid being distributed. 0k. chris, thank you very much. we have to leave it. there it is hoped that with more aid coming in, co—ordination will improve and the aid will get to the people who need it most. it's hoped
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with the visit of the prime minister there will be political will to acknowledge, whether they like it or not, bangladesh has to help the hundreds of thousands of people who are here. we will speak to reeta live in the next hour. more on that story after a.00pm. schools in england are struggling to recruit enough teachers to keep pace with rising pupil numbers, according to an official report. the national audit office found that tens of thousands of teachers are leaving the profession every year. a separate study suggests that teachers in england and scotland have seen their real term pay fall in the last decade. 0ur education correspondent, sean coughlan, reports. so if you do it down the side of the block, you can see how far in it's going to come. it's a new term, but an old problem.
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many schools are struggling to recruit enough of the teachers they need. a report from the national audit 0ffice suggests schools across england are no nearer to solving a shortage of teachers. there's also a challenge to keep staff, with almost 35,000 teachers leaving the profession last year. headteachers tell me that an inordinate amount of their time is spent simply trying to find someone, not always great quality, i have to say, to be able to stand in front of a class to teach them, and they are spending, therefore, inordinate amounts of public money on recruitment, on supply agencies and the net effect of this is that the standards are very, very hard to maintain. but the findings of an international report on teachers' pay from the 0ecd won't make recruitment any easier. it shows that teachers' earnings in england have fallen by i2% in real terms over a decade, and 6% in scotland. this is against an international trend in which teachers' pay has risen on average by 6%, out of 35 countries in the 0ecd survey. if you want to attract the best and brightest into the teaching profession,
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you have to give them a decent pay. but it's not sufficient. added to this comes making teaching an attractive career choice, to give people opportunities for personal development, to invest in their profession. teachers' pay has been caught in a long, deep freeze of austerity, with limits on public sector pay. in scotland, this seems to be about to be lifted and there is speculation in england about similar moves. the department for education said there were 15,000 extra teachers in england and it was spending £1.3 billion to make sure there will be enough teachers in the future. sean coughlan, bbc news. protestors in france are staging a series of strikes and demonstrations over plans to loosen labour laws. it's the first major test for president macron, who has pledged to reform the french economy to make it easier for companies to do business. two of the three largest unions have backed the new measures, but the leftist union, the cgt,
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has branded them a "coup." had is a live cam are shot. it looks sizeable. it's hard to tell from the shot, to be honest. the cgt, a sizeable turnout is what this suggests. i don't have the specific number. there has been a little bit of trouble earlier in the day. no sign of that from the pictures we have been watching from this camera. sadly, it's wobbly, as you can tell. we will keep an eye on. that those protests very much continuing there in paris. now, it's time for business. it's 10 years ago this week since the collapse of northern rock. you'll remember those queues outside its branches up and down the country as people tried in panic to get their savings out. the bank — which was
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based in newcastle — was eventually nationalised. jamie robertson is in newcastle for us now. tlau very much. yes, in newcastle, the home as it were of northern rock. we've been talking a lot about the financial effect of it. it was the financial effect of it. it was the canary in the coal mine, the disaster in the uk which told of the coming financial crisis. we have talked about. that i want to talk about some of the human costs, the effect it had on the culture of this area of the country. i'm joined by two people who were very much involved at the time. david faulkner, deputy lead of newcastle council and paula archer deputy manager of a stepney bank stable, or was. this was a charity. it gave an
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opportunity for disadvantaged children to use riding facilities. it also sold, as it were, a riding service to people who paid. that helped finance it. tell me what happened when northern rock went under it became very quiet. we had been incredibly popular and doing very, very well and had increased membership and activities five—fold. suddenly, the phones stopped ringing. it became very quiet and it took a while to realise what was happening. what we discovered was that people were choosing not to start because it is an expensive activity, relatively, and people we re activity, relatively, and people were not starting. members we had who had been with us for years tried to stay but new inquiries dropped off completely. the charity side, what happened to that? because the commercial side started to flag, the
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charitable side we couldn't support. we started very quickly to need to use use our reserves to stay working at all. what happened to it eventually? we ended up eating into our reserves and then it resulted in redundancies, it has survived. it is still there, which is phenomenal, but at the time it was incredibly distressing. david, give me an idea of what it was like for you in the council at that time when northern rock effectively went under. it was nationalised and torn apartm rock effectively went under. it was nationalised and torn apart it was a huge blow to the city and the region. it was, as you are suggesting, it was a blow for individuals. a,000 suggesting, it was a blow for individuals. 4,000 people lost their jobs over the coming two or three years out of what was the largest private—sector employer in the city. we also had all the small shareholders who lost their
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investment and that was a blow really to all those who benefitted from how they spent their money. of course the charities. paula hasjust explained one charity, this was £40 million a year that came from a 5% distribution of northern rock profits. into northern rocki distribution of northern rock profits. into northern rock i was a foundation. trustee. it made a huge impact on the region of vulnerable people. people who needed support. we lost all of that over time. do you think, 10 years later, you can still see the scars. do you think it has recovered? still see the scars. do you think it has recovered ? looking still see the scars. do you think it has recovered? looking around it looks like a of proitable city? it's a lively city. the geordies are resilient. we fight back. it's great to see more people in business. more entrepreneurship. we still miss northern rock. it was an incredibly important company for the leadership it provided, its vision, its
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contacts. thank you very much indeed for joining contacts. thank you very much indeed forjoining us. that's it. the scars do remain even though for many people they have actually healed. that's it. jamie, thank you for now. jamie robertson there in newcastle. . newcastle.. jamie robertson there in newcastle. . newcastle. . 0ne jamie robertson there in newcastle. . newcastle.. one more item to bring you before the weather: a 250—metre long "fatberg" weighing more than eleven double decker buses has been found blocking a sewer in east london. thames water described it as one of the largest it had seen and said it would take three weeks to remove. 0h, oh, this gets worse! the solid mass of congealed fat, wet wipes, nappies, oil and condoms formed in a victorian—era tunnel. sometimes it's more information than you need, isn't it?
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work at whitechapel road to remove the immense fatberg started this week. i'm just not really looking, i hope you did the same. it's a lesson to everybody, isn't it? thames water presumably not very happy at all. let's move on. time for a look at the weather. i will try and distract you. the rain will move into northern ireland and scotland, wales & west earn parts of england. for northern ireland and scotland, winds not so much a feature, across a large swathe of england and wales we will see gusts of a0mph—50mph. 60mph to western and channel coasts. as low pressure m oves western and channel coasts. as low pressure moves across the country we could see gusts of up to 75mph. that will bring damage to trees, branches
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down maybe even trees down in places. certainly some disruption to travel. bbc local radio is the best place to keep up—to—date. as the storm pulls away eastwards the winds will die down. for many it will be sunshine and showers. the wind will be strong, but will have lost their strengthen. cool feeling day given the showers and the breeze, highs 1a-18 the showers and the breeze, highs 1a—18 celsius. bye bye.
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