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is bbc news. the headlines: north korea has fired a ballistic missile of the north—eastern japan and. —— over north—eastern japan and. —— over north—eastern japan. it flew much further than previous north korea launches and comes just four days after a un security council meeting adopted further sanctions against north korea. one month after the devastating landslides that is occurred in the capital of sierra leone, about 1000 people lost or missing. more than one —— more than 500 people and to have died in the disaster and thousands more will force the leave their homes. in the weeks leading up to the disaster, the city had tripled its annual rainfall. two russian ships have fired targets at islamic state in syria. russia's defence ministry says several missiles were fired and all of the targets were destroyed. now on bbc news, it is time for a
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look back at thursday in parliament. hello and welcome to thursday in parliament. the main news from westminster... executives from gas say they were ashamed of revelations about abuse at their detention centre. if we were in anyway aware of that behaviour, we would have taken action. since the panorama programme, we have taken action. we have immediately suspended ten members of staff. a row over police pay — labour says there could be financial trouble ahead. the government has been on warning the police are nearing breaking point. today we are telling them this move may finally break them. and opposition mps say it's been a "stinker" of a week for the democratic process.
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this government is behaving little better than a tinpot dictatorship, and they will probably end up oppressing themselves. but first, senior executives at the security firm gas have told the home affairs committee they're ashamed by revelations of abuse at one of their detention centres. the bbc‘s panorama programme exposed violence and chaos at brook house immigration removal centre near gatwick airport. first to give evidence to mps was a former gas manager at brook house. i wasn't surprised, but shocked at the level of abuse going on, so i have been raising concerns about practice within gas since 2001. and in particular raising concerns tojerry petherwick upon my resignation. jerry petherwick is the gas executive in charge of detention centres. nathan ward said he had no faith in the gas whistleblowing system and stated "categorically"
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that the company had boosted its profits by charging for staff and equipment it did not have. he thought the relationship between gas and the home office was too close. why is it the home office is allowing gas to do their own investigation. i would ask, who is doing an independent investigation into this? this is a humanitarian crisis in what is supposed to be a civilised country and it demands a response from government. it is a shame the minister hasn't spoken to parliament about this today. it is a shame no statement has been made on the home office website. it is a shame my friend's early day motion has only been signed by 15 people to date and none of which from the conservative party. only one from labour. it is a disgrace. next to face mps were two gas executive. the committee chair recounted panorama's revelations
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about the verbal and physical abuse directed at detainees by staff and the widespread drug use. had you been aware of any of these things and taken any action on them, had there not been a panorama programme? i was ashamed of what i saw and i am very sorry. i can assure you if we were in anyway aware of that behaviour, we would have taken action. of course, since the panorama programme, we have taken action and we have immediately suspended ten members of staff and dismissed three of those staff and there are ongoing investigations into the conduct of the other people involved. you have a system failure to allow those things to happen in the first place? as peter says, we were ashamed and disappointed because it doesn't reflect the behaviour of our staff either at brook house or elsewhere, who do a very good job in trying conditions and we need to remember
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and acknowledge that. obviously, we are looking at the systems because i expect such uses of force to be examined on a regular basis by committee and had that happened, i believe some of these cases would have been identified and dealt with. we have a groupwide programme and facility for whistle—blowing that reports cases. i get a regular stream of them and that is a sign of a healthy business, where people are prepared to speak out. every one of those cases, we allocate a proper investigator, it might be a lawyer or a senior manager, always from outside of the operation and each of those cases is reviewed thoroughly and we take appropriate action depending on what we find. that system was working, but it wasn't used in this case. we have worked hard at addressing these kinds of behaviours,
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making it clear it is unacceptable when we see it. questioning then turned to the profit gas makes on brook house. all the newspapers are reporting a profit of 20%, how does that add up? we charged the home office 11.2 million for the running of brook house, i am not sure what is in the papers. in terms of what the papers have reported on profit margins, they are wrong. they have not shared with us the information they are looking at, but they are wrong. a conservative questioned why the bbc had not shared its evidence with the firm. it disappoints me that panorama are not working with you, with the home office and with the public in order to deliver that. there seems to be more of an adversarial approach to this. we and the home office team only want these facilities to be run
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decently, safely and to operate effectively. yvette cooper said none of the answers suggested gas had "any grip" on the situation. you have given us warm words about having some kind of independent inspection. you have told us, somehow these things happen. none of this suggest you have any idea why this has gone wrong so substantially, on your watch? you are prejudging our enquiry and you are not speaking for me. put that on the record, that is wonderful. and yvette cooper urged gas to rethink its refusal to share details of its profit margins with the committee. now, the government announced on tuesday that police officers in england and wales will be getting a 2% pay award next year. the next day, at prime minister's questions, theresa may said that since 2010 police officers had received a 32% pay rise.
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the police federation challenged that figure robustly, saying it only applied to a% of the workforce. labour secured an urgent statement on police pay, telling ministers the police were at "breaking point". the decision to award officers in the prrb remit group, a pay award worth a total of 2% to each officer in 2017/18, consisting of a 1% consolidated pay increase in addition to a one off 1%, non—consolidated payment to officers represents a fair deal to the taxpayer and to our ha rd—working police officers. this week, as the minister said, the review body recommended a 2% consolidated pay rise for federate and superintendent ranks. at pmqs yesterday, the prime minister stated that the government had accepted that body's recommendations in full but as the ministerjust confirmed, they have not. the government response to the recommendations was to offer a 1% pay rise and a 1%, one of non—consolidated payment that is non—pensionable. so can the minister tell us why
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those recommendations were not axe it in full? —— were not accepted in full? the prime minister then went on to suggest that police officers had received a real terms increase of 32%, which of course the police federation called a downright lie. i would suggest it was a cynical attempt to create a false impression, divorced from the reality of the officers on the ground. can the minister tell us whether she thinks the police federation was lying or if the prime minister got it wrong? and she called the pay award unfunded. metropolitan police estimate this will cost them {17.7 million this year. west yorkshire and west midlands, both estimate it will cost them around 80 front line officers this year. does the minister accept what chief constables are telling her, that this will cost us more front line officers and if she does not, can she states how she will advise forces to pay
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for this unbudgeted increase? the government has been on warning for some time that the police is nearing breaking point. today, we are telling them this move may finally break them. thank you, mr speaker and very grateful for the opportunity to set out some facts before the house, which is hardly what we've seen from the honourable lady opposite. before i address the substantive points she raised, i think it is really doing our hard—working police officers the most horrendous disservice to constantly portray them at breaking point and they can't serve communities. but we know that confidence in the police has been rising and is much higher now than it was in 2010. and she insisted the pay rise was affordable. on the latest, audited figures,
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every single police forces in this country has reserves of at least 6% of its general budget. these costs, the costs of actually delivering on the extra 1% is a very small fraction. it is less than 0.5% of all the police funding this year. i arrived in this house in 2001, it has been clear the national funding formula does not treat bedfordshire police fairly and i have lost count of the number of police ministers to which i have made this point. my request to the minister, whom i regard highly, is she goes back to the home office and she speak to the home secretary and the police minister and ask them to emulate what colleagues have done in education and offer a fair level of funding to every police force so we bring those up from the bottom to near the average. the government inhabits another planet. after a generation of progress
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on crime, 20,000 police officers have gone and crime is rising. 2000 in the west midlands, knife crime up, gun crime up, violent crime up, crime across the board up and the public at risk. i too used to work in the police and i know front—line staff feel this government treats them, not as public servants, but as public enemies. can the minister guarantee we don't face any further cuts to police numbers? can ijust say it is a totally unacceptable thing to say. you know, my sister was a police officer, my nephew, i am very proud to say has just joined our local police force. i do not see members of my family, members of the community as enemies. neither does anybody in the home office and neither does any member on any one of these benches. mps have been sharing disturbing stories about the way they and their families have been treated by members of the public. they described incidents of verbal
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abuse either face—to—face or via social media. all my four children have been hustled by other kids in their local schools because of the job of their father. —— hassled. there is little that can be done about that because they are children, and my kids are robust enough to withstand it. but such behaviour is taken to a new level when during the last general election, a teacher tells the class of my 13 your old boy that nobody should talk to him because he is the son of a conservative mp. —— 13—year—old boy. son of a conservative mp. —— 13-year-old boy. i am gratefulto my honourable and gallant friends for sharing with the house that personal
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and deeply upsetting and deeply troubling incident which has up and to his son. —— which has happened to his son. that is simply unacceptable. it is a noble thing to stand for election. it is a noble thing to want to represent your community, whether as a counsellor or as an community, whether as a counsellor oras an mp community, whether as a counsellor or as an mp in this place. during the break and campaigning we had as a mark of respect following the manchester attack, i was accused on social media via an activist from an opposing party of ignoring that break and going out campaigning on one of those days. it was in fact the day that i have been at my husband's funeral. i was surprised. my husband's death had been widely reported, not least by the newspaper for which he worked, but the abuse was re— tweeted, explanations were demanded, and there were more abusive comments. that was also a
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surprise, as i had had many supportive messages from all political parties. so partly to avoid embarrassment for my accuser when he realised his mistake, i replied and i explained. the abuse didn't stop, but actually escalated. you are watching thursday in parliament. the education secretary has hailed a funding formula for schools in england as historic. she said all primary schools in england would get at least £3500 for each pupil while secondary schools would get £a800. there were some tetchy exchanges after the education secretary it used labour opposite number of rhetoric. -- accused. the nationalfunding number of rhetoric. -- accused. the national funding formula for increased investment will help to increased investment will help to increase standards and create a world —class increase standards and create a world—class education system. no one
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in this house should accept the system as it has been. it has perpetuated inequality, and that is unacceptable. and i am proud it is a conservative government that is putting this right. on this firm foundation, we will all, government and schools, teachers and parents, be able to build a system that finally allows every child to achieve their potential, no matter what their background or where they are growing up. we have been urging her to are growing up. we have been urging herto keep are growing up. we have been urging her to keep the promise her party made in 2015 to protect funding in real terms for every pupil ever since she took office. so will she guarantee to the house that no school will be even 1p worse off in real terms as a result of the funding, real terms, not real terms as a result of the funding, realterms, not cash real terms as a result of the funding, real terms, not cash terms? how much will the increase in basic
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per pupil cost and how will it be funded? none of the money announced so funded? none of the money announced so far is actually new money for education. instead, she is simply cutting elsewhere to fill in the black hole that the government itself has created. justine greening was staggered that angelina thought it was a bad thing to do. anyone should be challenging civil servants to work smarter and efficiently to put money to the frontline. and i have to say i think it is another example of the honourable lady being able to do anything other than rant and produced rhetoric and there is not a lot of thought behind that rhetoric as to what the right thing to do is. a labour mp did not approve of her remarks. can i congratulate my neighbour for the sterling work she is doing, really shining a light on some of the problems in education today and i should say i don't think it does the
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secretary of state anyjustice to come to the dispatch box and be so condescending to a colleague on the other side. when listening to the opposition, does my right honourable friend agree it is important to recognise the average money to seats would be higher than a800, which would be higher than a800, which would be higher than a800, which would be churlish to respond, as they have. 44,000 people die each year from they have. 44,000 people die each yearfrom sepsis, a condition in which and infection spreads through other parts of the body. nhs england has launched a new action plan. in the lords, piers shared stories about their experience sepsis. -- peers. my husband is a survivor of sepsis, albeit with an amputated leg, and that is only because of the speed and skill of the medical professionals at the whittington trust, where he is chairman, i
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should declare, with the best sepsis record in london. clinical awareness is rising in the nhs, though it is patchy and more must be done. i believe public awareness is very low. i am grateful to the minister for announcing those plans. they must be reinforced so that members of the public, friends and family, no how to spot the possible symptoms. well, firstly, i am sorry to hear that sepsis had that effect on her husband, and i am glad that he wasn't one of those 44,000 people who die every year from the condition. though public awareness is critical. we are looking at new ideas for how to get the message across through a range of routes. the minister said awareness of sepsis among doctors and nurses improved over the last couple of yea rs. improved over the last couple of years. in emergency departments, for those presenting symptoms, previously only around half were assessed for sepsis, and that figure
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is up to 90%, so that is good progress and there is more to do. the major difficulties with sepsis is that it is so speedy. it can kill within a few hours. so the awareness of the speed is vital and it is vital for the public and it is certainly vital for practitioners. sepsis can be a big killer. if the correct antibiotics are not given, should it not be conditional to report sepsis, so that more research can be done? and should there not be a very quick test for it? the noble lady is quite right, and indeed trusts are incentivised to report incidences of sepsis and their performance against these quality standards. so that is happening. of course there is still unfortunately
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variation within the system. that is why the documents out yesterday are so why the documents out yesterday are so important. for the first time we have an operational definition of aduu have an operational definition of adult sepsis, which is critical to making sure it is spotted in time. asa making sure it is spotted in time. as a survivor of total body sepsis cani as a survivor of total body sepsis can i very much indoors with my noble friend has said about the speed and the danger of this illness? and what was so difficult in my case for my family and for the professionals who treated me to understand, was it could lead to a total failure of all of the body's organs, as it did in my case, within literally hours, so the urgency of this must be really emphasised in any public awareness campaign. this must be really emphasised in any public awareness campaignlj this must be really emphasised in any public awareness campaign. i am very sorry to hear the noble lady has suffered that. obviously i'm delighted that she is still here. laughter. just to re-emphasise the point about speed, and i encourage the noble lords to look at the quality standard. it really is very stringent that the speed of
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treatment that has to be administered. the critical thing is making sure there is proper triage before that and that is where we need to make progress. opposition mps accused the conservatives of sidelining the democratic process by boycotting votes on labour proposals. two nonbinding labour —— labour motions were approved on wednesday without vote. labour valerie has said it was a bad week for parliamentary democracy. valerie has said it was a bad week for parliamentary democracym valerie has said it was a bad week for parliamentary democracy. it was jawdropping —— jawdropping vaz. for parliamentary democracy. it was jawdropping vaz. the government was deciding not to vote for or against the motion. the deputy speaker said it isa the motion. the deputy speaker said it is a matter to be raised and i raise it again. what the house voted to do was to lift the cap on nurses' pay and revoke the rising tuition fees. it means students and nurses
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have a legitimate expectation that thatis have a legitimate expectation that that is what the intention of parliament is and we would like to know how that is going to be enacted. it is also clear, and it has been set on social media, that is what the government will do with every opposition day motion. i would like you, mr speaker, to me with business managers to work out how to ta ke business managers to work out how to take it forward because it makes parliament looked ridiculous. andrea leadsom said the government tuition fees and public sector pay are taken incredibly seriously. yesterday, to be very clear, there were equal numbers of speakers on both sides of the house and no doubt we have engaged at every level. however, i would like to point out that the actual intention of the opposition in these debates yesterday was purely political. they will be very much aware... laughter they will be very much aware that the vote yesterday, the
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tuition fee proposal, has no statutory effect. they are determined under the negative procedure. there is a 40 day period to annull the instrument and it has expired. this has been a stinker of a week for the democratic arrangements in this house. first the repeal bill with the grotesque henry viii powers, then the manipulation of the standing committee on the government favour, and now the degrading of opposition day debate to little more than adjournment debates. next a will be coming to your chair. laughter. -- next they will be coming. the leader of the house said, when she assumed this role, that she wanted to reach out to the parties of this house, to seek consensus and to work across this chamber. this government is now behaving little better than a dysfunctional, tinpot dictatorship and is doing it so ineptly they will probably end up oppressing
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themselves. laughter. mr speaker, laughter. mrspeaker, cani laughter. mr speaker, can i advise you strongly to nail down your chair just in case. the honourable gentleman is concerned someone may run off with it. the honourable gentleman, i run off with it. the honourable gentleman, lam run off with it. the honourable gentleman, i am afraid, shows his usual contempt for this place, which is actually a bastian of democracy. he calls it a tinpot dictatorship, i think that is pretty contemptuous. he calls it a tinpot dictatorship, i think that is pretty contemptuouslj think that is pretty contemptuous.” can confirm to the house that my chair is not going anywhere. laughter. and neither am i, for that matter! music to the eu is of harriet harman, who praised him for the support he is giving to mps —— music to the ears. you have arrived to the house as a man, and as a tory... (laughter).. you have since... crosstalk
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since you have been in the chair, really, you have proved yourself to be nothing less than a —— an honorary sister. i would like to say to the honourable lady and to the house as a whole that, as members can probably tell, my cart runeth over. ryan inniss state of overwhelming excitement. mr speaker, or sister speaker, on a overwhelming excitement. mr speaker, or sisterspeaker, on a high overwhelming excitement. mr speaker, or sister speaker, on a high in parliament. join me at the same time tomorrow for a round—up of the week in a on. but for now, from the, —— for a round—up of the week in a on. but for now, from the, -- me, goodbye. hello there. our weather has taken on a decidedly cool and, dare i say it, quite autumnal feel.
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as we head on through friday, it will remain cool, after quite a chilly start, and we will see a mixture of sunshine and showers. showers from the word go across northern england, into wales and the south—west. these gradually drifting further south and east, and as the showers arrive in east anglia and south—east england, they will turn very heavy indeed, with some hail and some thunder. all the while, showers keep going across northern ireland and a good part of scotland. so let's take a closer look, then, at a:00pm in the afternoon. a mixture of sunny spells and hefty showers to the south—west of england. 15 degrees there in plymouth. could get to 16 in southampton, in the dry spells. but bear in mind, as the showers drift through, the temperatures will drop away by a good few degrees. maybe just 12 or 13 degrees in some of the showers across the south—east and east anglia — very heavy, with hail and thunder. a mixture of sunshine and showers for northern england. quite a few showers across north—east scotland, a fair old breeze blowing here, as well. but south—west scotland a better chance of seeing more in the way of dry weather, and some spells of sunshine. sunny spells and hefty downpours
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for northern ireland, and a similar story for wales, and particularly close to the west coast it will be fairly windy. now, as we go on through friday night, many of the showers will fade away. but some will continue, most likely across north—east england, into wales, the south—west, some showers continue across north—east scotland, as well. many other places will turn dry, with some clear spells. maybe the odd mist patch, and temperatures easily down to eight, nine, or 10 degrees, but some spots in the countryside cold enough for a touch of grass frost. so we begin the weekend between this area of low pressure to the east and this area of high pressure trying to push in from the west. it leaves us with a northerly wind — never a warm wind direction. yes, there will be some spells of sunshine, but again, some showers, some of them heavy, and those temperatures around 13 degrees for aberdeen and glasgow. 12 in belfast, maybe 15 for cardiff, and 16 for london. but as we go through saturday night, as the showers fade,
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we see clear skies and light winds, it is going to turn very chilly indeed. our towns and cities perhaps down into single digits. but, out in the countryside, particularly out west, we're looking at lows of one, two, three degrees. there could well be a touch of grass frost to start sunday morning, but sunday should see some improvements, certainly in terms of the showers. fewer showers, more dry weather, more sunshine. 15 to 18 degrees. and that is the story for the weekend. the showers, slowly but surely, will ease. there will be some sunny spells, but the nights will be decidedly chilly. welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to viewers in north america and around the globe. my name is tom donkin. our top stories... a new ballistic missile launch from north korea — flying overjapan and crashing down into the pacific ocean. a special report from sierra leone, where a thousand people are still missing — a month after a devastating mudslide. russia fires cruise missiles into syria — and invites the bbc to come and watch. and after nearly 20 years in space,
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