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this is bbc news. the headlines at 12pm. ahead of the conservative party conference tomorrow, borisjohnson again intervenes in the brexit debate. laying out his four redlines that theresa may mustn't cross teachers and nurses in england and wales could have the 1% cap on their pay rises lifted next year. the treasury admits it needs to be more flexible where there are skill shortages. the archbishop of canterbury has criticised the way the bbc handled sexual abuse byjimmy savile. the most serious animal cruelty offences could soon be punished with up to five years in jail instead of six months. and at 12.30 click looks at all things battery, from how to keep your smartphone charged to the mountain storing energy in lakes. good afternoon and welcome to bbc news.
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first, our main story. on the eve of the conservative party conference, theresa may is coming under fresh pressure over brexit. once again the foreign secretary borisjohnson has intervened in the debate setting out his brexit redlines in a newspaper article, including his view that the transition period mustn't last a second longer than two years. hardline brexiteers have also written a letter to the prime minister demanding she walk away from the talks if the eu refuses to discuss trade negotiations before christmas. our political correspondent jonathan blake told me more about boris johnson's brexit intervention. it's another broadside on brexit from the foreign secretary. natural territory for him, of course, you might well expect him to set out his position on the eve of the conservative party conference but what he's talking about is four very clear red lines on brexit as far as he sees it. these are his red lines?
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yes, they are, and they are consistent with, largely, government policy and the position that has been set out by theresa may in her big speech in florence. but they do deviate from that slightly or at least go further than the prime minister has stated, particularly on the issue of the transition. the prime minister said that the period should be around two years after 2019, borisjohnson saying in this interview that it should be not a second longer than two years. a limitation there. his other red lines as we call them, no new eu rules during the transition, no payments to access the single market and no shadowing of eu rules once we're out. depending on who you speak to, this is either him restating his position on everything he has said already, or straying a little bit from the established consensus. the implication is if the red lines are crossed, does he go, is he out? i think he would refute that this is any kind of ultimatum,
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that's not how it is being put forward by those close to him. he's setting out his stall, a bit of a rallying call for supporters of brexit to have some faith in him that he's going to see through the job. that's very interesting because in a sense, he's not doing the negotiations, it's david davis in brussels and it will be the prime minister and cabinet who sign it. matthew parris, the former conservative mp and conservative commentator saying this morning he thinks it's not possible for the foreign secretary to articulate a separate policy from the government, but as the government has not set out its red lines, isn't that what he's doing? it's possible for him to say it, you're right to raise the point that if these lines are crossed, what happens, we will have to wait and see. there is an element of interpretation here. borisjohnson has not gone so far
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as to put himself directly at odds with anything the prime minister has said... presumably he would be out the door if he did. exactly, and with the party conference this weekend, his comments will be music to the ears of many tory mps who want to get on with brexit. but it is front and centre when the prime minister didn't want it, she didn't quite dismiss brexit, she said it was important, but she made it clear that she wanted the focus to be the economy and domestic social issues and addressing people's concerns during the election. and that's what the party leadership want to focus on in conference? yes, theresa may said brexit is important but we have a challenge to present our arguments over making a uk that works for everyone, notjust the privileged few, and she also mentioned young people in particular, who she said had concerns during the election campaign and lent support elsewhere,
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possibly the labour party. theresa may wants to focus on domestic issues but this interview means that brexit is not being forgotten about. jonathan blake talking to me earlier. let's speak now to the chief political commentator for the independent, john rentoul, who joins us from the newspaper‘s offices in central london. thank you for being with us. what do you think boris johnson thank you for being with us. what do you think borisjohnson is up to? sorry, the sound went! it is all on the timing! what do you think boris johnson is up to? i think the foreign secretary has realised that he has one more chance of becoming prime minister, which is over the next 18 months. if the government splits over the question of brexit. because by the time of the next general election, i think his chance will have come and gone. he will not be the candidate to appeal to young people. which is what the
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conservative party is going to be interested in in the next election, countering the jeremy interested in in the next election, countering thejeremy corbyn appeal. despite the fact that boris johnson was popular as mayor of london, as leader of the leave campaign, i think he has a the younger generation. his only hope of becoming prime minister is to push for a harder brexit than theresa may will offer and take over on that basis. i'm not sure it will work but thatis basis. i'm not sure it will work but that is his thinking. the timing is interesting because it is the eve of the conference, the impression had been that he had been told to stop being a back—seat driver, most notably by amber rudd, a home secretary in a direct intervention. is he doing that or is he being interviewed, doing his run—up to the party conference, he's asked about brexit, he cannot not say something and he's only what —— saying what is
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government policy? but it is not governed and policy, he is going significantly further in ruling out the european court ofjustice jurisdiction during the transition period. that is something which will be music to the ears of brexiteers in the conservative party, but he's also said not a second longer than two years for the transition period, thatis two years for the transition period, that is not and policy. he's very clearly throwing down a challenge —— government policy. east very clearly throwing down the challenge to theresa may and david davis who is negotiating this stuff, if they don't come back with what he wants, that would be a basis, i assume, for him putting himself forward as the alternative prime minister to secure brexit that he think the referendum demanded. you are sceptical about his appeal to younger voters, theresa may is directly talking about that today in an interview in
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the times, she is saying that she hoped conference will be about making britain fairer, she talked about her words when she arrived in downing street last summer when she talks about a fairer britain. one of the things she wants to address is this perception of a generational 93p- this perception of a generational gap. you think she is right, politically as mac absolutely, —— right? absolutely, the intelligent people are now focused on how to next election, they have to worry about how how the younger people have been swept away by the jeremy corbyn revelation and they have to have an answer to that. they have to deal with student finance and house prices. if they don't come up with an answer to that, then the next election is lost. the party will be looking for a candidate in 2022 who will be capable of fighting back againstjeremy corbyn, that will not
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be borisjohnson, againstjeremy corbyn, that will not be boris johnson, it againstjeremy corbyn, that will not be borisjohnson, it probably won't be borisjohnson, it probably won't be theresa may either, it will be someone be theresa may either, it will be someone else. it will be interesting to see who emerges on the stage in register this week. thank you very much. —— in manchester this week. unions have accused the government of an empty, cynical gesture, after ministers confirmed the 1% pay cap for teachers and other public sector workers in england and wales could be lifted. the treasury said higher salary increases should be considered in some schools, especially where there are staff shortages, but unions fear they'll have to be paid for out of existing budgets. andy moore reports. what does a good teacher make these days? recruiting enough teachers has become one of the most pressing problems facing schools in england. starting salaries have fallen behind other jobs after years of low pay rises. here's my magnets, two very powerful ring magnets... now the government has confirmed some teachers might get increases above 1%. but that's likely to be in areas where there are skills shortages and there's no indication yet of how those pay rises might be funded. i think head teachers would be pleased to see a pay rise
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because they have real difficulties recruiting, but they will want to know that it's fully funded, that the government will give them the money they need to pay the teachers. the government said pay discipline was still needed in the public sector but workers needed to have fulfilling jobs that were fairly rewarded. you cannot keep reducing public pay relative to pay in the private sector and still expect to retain the teachers and nurses and so on that you need. you're going to be there forever otherwise by hand... for some teachers there's the prospect of more money. for head teachers with frozen budgets, there's the problem of where that money will come from. andy moore, bbc news. the archbishop of canterburyjustin welby has criticised the bbc‘s handling of abuse allegations againstjimmy savile, saying that the anglican and catholic churches had shown more integrity in handling abuse allegations. i haven't seen the same integrity over the bbc‘s failures over savile as i have seen
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in the roman catholic church and the church of england and other public institutions over abuse. the bbc has said it does not recognise the accusation and has acted transparently regarding the abuse allegations. let's talk now to the reverend doctor mark stibbe. he's a former church of england vicar who's speaking on behalf of victims of abuse in the church. he joins us via webcam. thank you for being with us. were you at all surprised by the archbishop's comparison? absolutely dumbfounded. and completely astounded by it. and speaking on behalf of other victims, besides myself, i think there's quite a lot of anger about it. i suppose his
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argument is that in a sense, however the church behaved when these allegations, the various allegations we re allegations, the various allegations were raised over the years, in recent yea rs, were raised over the years, in recent years, they have been much more open and perhaps he is suggesting that the bbc has not gone through the same sort of process. well, i would say that that's not, that doesn't ring true to my experience. one of my fellow victims wrote to the archbishop of canterbury in february of this year, an open letter to the daily telegraph, and that is still yet to be answered. i know another victim in another anglican abuse story sent 17 letters to the archbishop's office at lambeth, and is still waiting to hear a single reply to those 17 letters. so i'm not sure that it completely rings true. there was a major investigation into what had happened in the bbc, damejanet
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smith, retired judge, had happened in the bbc, damejanet smith, retiredjudge, that had happened in the bbc, damejanet smith, retired judge, that of the allegations, she was very critical about the way it was handled. it's how you respond to criticism. the bbc said its improved safeguarding, particularly insuring the supervision of children and young people, never being left along a loa n people, never being left along a loan with an individual. but it's about whether or not institutions and acknowledge their failings and make efforts to change. have you not seen make efforts to change. have you not seen efforts to change in the church of england? painfully slow progress within the church of england, i'm afraid. we're still waiting for a whole number of tickets to be fulfilled and met, mandatory reporting which is is something we'd like, an independent safeguarding your the bishop of science to the issues of safeguarding. we like to see a healthier church without spiritual abuse, no bullying. we'd
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like to see a whole bunch of things that we don't see at the moment. those things are not go to happen overnight. you can appoint people, but if you change the culture of an organisation, that's the work of yea rs. organisation, that's the work of years. it is, but one thing that's really driven me in all of this is isaiah 42, where it talked about the bruised reed which will not break. and justice being brought forth to those who have been wronged. and i think there is an issue ofjustice here, it may take time but it's taken too long to so many of the victims of anglican church abuse, including victims who want to see much greater transparency, much more efficient systems and less blanking of victims. much more efficiency in dealing with failure. thank you very much forjoining us at this lunchtime. five people have been injured in two linked stabbing incidents in sheffield city centre.
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four people have been arrested in connection with the incidents, which took place early this morning. several roads are still closed in the area. there are reports in the spanish media that police have raided the catalan regional government's telecommunications centre as they continue efforts to stop sunday's independence referendum. the spanish government says any vote will be illegal. it has deployed thousands of police officers to the region to stop voting. last night catalan separatists held a final rally in defiance. outside madrid's city hall. and today anti—referendum activists are holding a counter demonstration outside madrid's city hall. we can speak now to tom burridge who's in barcelona. how would you describe the atmosphere in the run—up to this proposed referendum, where you are this morning? i think it's surreal, that's the word i would use. last night, for example, you had parents
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at schools across barcelona sleeping in the schools to keep them open so they can be used as polling stations on sunday. they fear that the police are going to go into the schools and try and shut them down. police have been going into those schools, meeting the parents inside, asking them whether they are in bold are them whether they are in bold are the referendum. according to spanish media come all the parents have to say, we're not, and the police leave. there is a weird stomach on these treats, —— there is a weird feeling on the streets, there are police doctor on cruise ships near the port, and the government are saying, when push comes to shove, we are in charge of catalonia. in terms of the reaction elsewhere in spain, is there an understanding of why cata la ns wa nts is there an understanding of why catala ns wants to is there an understanding of why catalans wants to define notjust the central government, but the law of spain? i think the vast majority
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in spanish people outside of catalonia do not support the referendum. there is a section of spanish society, backed up by a left—wing political party which sprang up several years ago and won afairshare of sprang up several years ago and won a fair share of the vote in the last general election, that party is at backing the idea of a referendum, but not this one because this is it considered widely outside of catalonia to be illegal. in theory, not only the spanish police here in catalonia should try and stop this but caught is an —— call to the middle is the catalonian police force which are devolved, they should in theory try and stop the vote from happening but it's clear that the catalonian police force's royalties are divided and they do belong to the autonomous government here which is organising the vote. if the vote goes ahead tomorrow, if there were to be a majority, even a
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narrow one, in favour of catalan independence, what would happen next? presumably at that stage, you have a referendum that the law says has no legal validity within a national state, but you have got a bit of that state saying, those are the laws but that's no longer applies because we are going to break away and the people have spoken. a great question. i think the vote is going to go ahead, for show. a vote is going to go ahead. what type, we don't know. how many people are going to turn out is crucial and what kind of infrastructure and reality the devolved government can put on so there is a decent turnout. privately yesterday, catalan officials said to me, if the turnout is low, it won't have legitimacy. but they would not be drawn on a precise figure of exactly how many people, what proportion of the electorate should turn out for the vote to have any credence. answering your question, what happens if a decent number of
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people turn out and it is a yes vote, and i think if turnout isn't that high, there's more chance of it being a yes vote because people who are motivated to vote in this other the ones who want to vote yes. the government in catalonia has said that once the vote happens, once they get the result on sunday night, they get the result on sunday night, they will evaluate it. they are not putting a figure on how many days they will evaluate it for. they then say and the catalan law, laws passed in the devolved parliament, not at the national level, then they have a period of 48 hours. they're basically saying that within the days of the vote, they could and thatis days of the vote, they could and that is the most important word, could, declare unilaterally independence from spain. but it is a very important caveat, the catalan government is insisting that even if you get a decent turnout at a yes vote, it is still open to negotiation. it will still sit down with the madrid government and negotiate not only the idea of a
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referendum but the whole package of autonomy that catalonia has. relations between the spanish central government and the devolved government are so poor and have been for years, this issue hasn'tjust come out of the blue, it goes back to 2006, 2010 when a new deal for autonomy was struck down by spain's courts, and in 2012, a huge number of people took to the streets of barcelona in favour of referendum or independence. this issue has come to a head, lots of people here in barcelona are motivated to vote, exactly what's turnout or what type of votes the catalan government can achieve is the key question. busy weekend for you, thank you. the headline on bbc news. ahead of the conservative party conference tomorrow, borisjohnson again intervenes in the brexit debate laying out his four redlines that theresa may mustn't cross. teachers and nurses in england and wales could have the 1% cap on their pay rises lifted next year. the treasury admits it needs to be more flexible where there are skill shortages.
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the archbishop of canterbury has criticised the way the bbc handled sexual abuse byjimmy savile. people found guilty of the most serious acts of animal cruelty could face up to five years in prison under new legislation announced today. last year the rspca investigated nearly 150,000 cases of animal abuse, including violence, organised dog fights and neglect. the current maximum jail term is six months. earlier i spoke to david bowles from the rspca who welcomed the government's announcement to increase sentences for those who commit serious animal cruelty offences. the rspca has been calling for a review of sentencing since the animal welfare act came into effect ten years ago. that raised sentencing to a year, the government then didn't want prisons to be filled up so they reduced it to six months which means it hasn't changed since 1911. we have been saying that we come across around 30 cases a year
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whetherjudges have said, if i could give a higher sentence than i can, i would but my hands are tied. that message has got through to the government which the rspca has welcomed. without getting too gruesome, what sort of things could provoke that frustration from judges? a couple of cases in the last year, a man who force—fed his hamster drugs, and thought it was funny when the animal got high. another man who had an argument with his girlfriend and was so angry with that that he kicked the dog round the house so hard that its brainstem snapped away from its head. it obviously died, he buried it in the back garden in a bin liner and the rspca found it. it is those sorts of real cruelty, dogfighting, as you suggesting, but the real cruel issues
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that we want these sentences to apply for it. dogfighting is banned but you can still only get six months? yes, it has been banned since 1835 but you can still only get six months. the rspca has investigated dogfighting for the past 180 years, and we find that those people who are involved in that some of the worst criminals, they do it for a variety of reasons, gambling, but sometimes theyjust get gratuitous kicks out of seeing dogs pitched against wildlife or other dogs. we find that if we could have much bigger sentences, that may act as a deterrent to those people. briefly, the government could do this quite quickly if it wants to? we believe so, we hope that when the secretary of state stands up on monday, he will announce this... at the conference? yes, he will announce a time frame and the rspca will work with him to get this through as quickly as possible, it's not a party political issue, one of the labour mps has been
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pushing this quite heavily. we believe it can be done quickly. young people are spending far less money than the older generation on having fun, according to a new study. research from the resolution foundation says people in their 20s and 30s can't afford as many meals out or expensive coffees due to the fall in their incomes and the rising cost of housing. joe lynam explains. today's young adults have been accused of spending all their money on eating out, the infamous avocado toast, rather than saving for their futures. older people, though, have a reputation of being cautious with their money. well, a study for the resolution foundation seems to dispel that. it says it's the so—called baby boomers who are dining out the most. the study, which has tracked consumption habits among the age groups for 57 years, has found spending power for 25 to 35—year—olds has fallen by 15% since the year 2000. housing costs have also risen faster for young adults than for workers aged between 55 and 60.
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and millennials spend more every week on their mobile phones than cigarettes and alcohol for the first time. we sometimes hear that even though millennials have had poor earnings growth, they're still managing to spend like no tomorrow on things like avocado toast in cafes and going on holiday. what our analysis shows is everybody, all age groups, spend similar amounts on these things and the fastest growth in spending on these items over the 21st—century hasn't been for the young, it's been for the 55 to 64—year—olds, those boomers in late working age. while young adults may have youth on their side, the so—called baby boomers born after the war are busy shopping and holidaying a lot more than their younger counterparts. joe lynam, bbc news. some breaking news coming in from greater manchester police, a man has died after being stabbed during a
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mass brawl in the city centre. it was at about 2:50am this morning, the police say. a 21—year—old man was treated for wounds to his neck but he died at the scene of the incident which was outside my club injohn dalton incident which was outside my club in john dalton street incident which was outside my club injohn dalton street in the centre. two women were left unconscious after being punched. —— outside a nightclub. four men have been arrested and are in gusty. a man dies after being stabbed in a brawl after a manchester city nightclub. let's have a look at the weather now. some pretty autumnal and unsettled weather on the second half of the weekend, hit a contrasting picture across the country. some rain across parts of wales and south—west england, later on it will creep eastwards. further north across the country, not a bad day. sunny spells for northern england and northern
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ireland, scattered showers across scotla nd ireland, scattered showers across scotland and temperature 13—17d. into the evening hours, rain and wind pushes further eastwards at, a lot of cloud and murk. clear skies for a time lot of cloud and murk. clear skies fora time and lot of cloud and murk. clear skies for a time and more rain, windy conditions moving in from the north—west to start the day on sunday. most of us mild, fresh across north—east scotland first thing. through the day, this band of rain will push eastwards with strengthening southerly winds. it is likely to stay dry for a good part of the day, patchy rain working in later. a return to sunshine and blustery showers from the north—west, height of 15 to 18. hello. this is bbc news — the headlines. a day ahead of the conservative party conference, borisjohnson has called for any brexit transition period to be limited to two years. teachers and nurses in england and wales could have the one per cent cap on their pay rises lifted next year. the treasury admits it needs to be more flexible where there are skill shortages —
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but unions want to know who'll pay for it. the archbishop of canterbury has criticised the way the bbc handled sexual abuse byjimmy savile, saying that the anglican and catholic churches had shown more integrity in handling abuse allegations. there are reports in the spanish media that police have raided the catalan regional government's telecommunications centre as they continue efforts to stop sunday's independence referendum. now a full round—up from the bbc sport centre. hello, jessica. hello, good afternoon. lewis hamilton will start
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on parole after sebastien vettel suffered engine trouble. this is the sound of sebastien vettel's champion hopes slipping away. his ferrari's engine had already been changed before qualifying but the secondary problems couldn't be fixed to allow him to set a time. after singapore, he faces a battle to score points in malaysia, starting from the back of the great. that put pressure on the other ferrari driver, kimi raikkonen, to get ahead of lewis hamilton. despite mercedes
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