tv Outside Source BBC News October 2, 2017 9:30pm-10:01pm BST
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. on sunday night in las vegas, a man on the 32nd floor of the mandalay bay hotel began shooting. rapid gunfire. when the gunfire stopped, at least 58 people at a music concert had been fatally wounded. and america had witnessed its deadliest mass shooting in decades. we'll hear from those who survived. we started seeing the people that we re we started seeing the people that were shot and the people that were dead and that's when it hit me that this was real. the gunman was stephen paddock. he killed himself before police reached him. the islamic state says its behind the killings. this is the fbi's response to that. as this event unfolds, we have determined to this point no connection with an international terrorist group. a minute of silence at the white house, to honour the victims. we'll be live in las vegas and washington dc. we will get more details on gun
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control and how it works in each of the us states. in catalonia, regional leaders say they want a new understanding with the spanish state. understanding was in short supply yesterday. police violence marred an independence referendum which delivered a yes vote. according to its organisers. the spanish government says it didn't even happen. the las vegas attack is the deadliest mass shooting in modern us history. before what happened in the us, well, you can talk about what happened in orlando in a nightclub last year as being the deadliest and when you look down the list, u nfortu nately when you look down the list, unfortunately the names are
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familiar, sandy hook, columbine, virginia tech, the list goes on, and most are relatively recent. this is a website called the gun violence archive run by a not—for—profit organisation which collects data on this issue. it says over 11,000 people have died in gun violence in the us this year. there have also been 16,000 incidents. if you look at that as a map, the source provided by the same organisation, you can see it is very much a nationwide issue and it is easy to get guns in most us states, perhaps particularly easy in nevada. when you have got one you don't have to register as a gun owner and can carry weapons openly. a little while ago the white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders said there was a time and place to talk about gun control policy. today is a day for consoling the survivors and mourning those we lost, our thoughts and prayers are certainly with all
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of those individuals. there is a time and place for a political debate but now is the time to unite asa debate but now is the time to unite as a country. i think one of the things that we don't want to do is try to create laws that weren't create or stop these types of things from happening. ithink create or stop these types of things from happening. i think if you look to chicago where you had over 4000 victims of gun related crimes last year they have the strictest gun laws in the country and that certainly hasn't helped there. when the time comes for those conversations to take place, i think we need to look at things that may actually have a real impact. anthony zurcher is live in washington. this debate is specific to the us but for a lot of people outside america looking in, it is hard to understand the argument against tightening gun laws. just explain the position held by many republicans on this. what they do first of all its point towards the second amendment to the
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us constitution which says that the right to bear arms should not be infringed. they say that in the founding document of the us there is a right to bear arms, it's protected, and therefore it's difficult for any state or federal government to oppose undue restrictions on that constitutional right, right up there with freedom of speech. if you look back on the history of the united states, there isa history of the united states, there is a tradition of firearms being used for self defence, people living on the frontier, far away from the police in the olden days. their firearm was very means of personal defence and protection. so tradition is deeply ingrained in much of the united states. i think bayview it, and as exports means as a weapon for hunting, it is part of american culture and one of the reasons why you see the republicans defend that right —— they view it.
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you see the republicans defend that right -- they view it. how lenient are the laws in nevada compared to most us states? one of the most lenient laws. they don't do much more than what is set out by the us federal government. states can add additional requirements, neighbouring california as you mentioned have done registration rolls, they prohibit the assault style one rifles that have pistol grips and can hold bigger magazines. nevada doesn't have any of that, just the basic federal law. machine guns, automatic weapons, federal law prohibited most of those in the 19805 but anything manufactured before that is legal if you pay a certain processing charge. you can get those in nevada but you couldn't get those in nevada but you couldn't getan get those in nevada but you couldn't get an automatic weapon barring some major hurdles in california. from a journalist patrick galey, i want to bring this up, and a number of people made this point. sandy hook was the point of no return as soon as legislators signalled no petition
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de macome position to mass child murder anything goes. they would not frame it that way but once you have had something as devastating as sandy hook, if that doesn't shift the gun laws, a lot of people are arguing that nothing will. i tend to agree with that and i think you saw that when barack obama was president. he didn't campaign on gun control in 2008 but in 2012 after he won the election sandy hook happened and he made more stringent background checks, closing gun show and sale loopholes, big part of his early legislative drive and it was derailed by republicans in the senate in particular and over the ensuing years senate in particular and over the ensuing yea rs as senate in particular and over the ensuing years as there was more and more gun violence, you saw him become very pessimistic about any opportunity of passing more stringent gun laws. as you said, if there can be the murder of a school full of children and nothing can be done, then you have to wonder what would it take to change the reality
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on the ground politically in this country on gun control. anthony, we will leave it there for the moment, thank you. we will turn away from the story for the moment because i wa nt to the story for the moment because i want to discuss catalonia. the authorities held in independence referendum yesterday and spanish authorities tried to stop it and they did so first of all with the spanish supreme court, saying the whole thing was illegal but also with the help of some very violent policing tactics. we are told over 800 people were injured as the police tried to stop the vote. those figures coming from catalonia's regional government. the government told us the turnout was over 40% but three quarters of a million votes can be counted because it is claimed they were taken by police. the remaining 42% votes voted 90% for independence and 10% against. let me show you a catalonia leader has said that they had also
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he said while they were being counted. translation: he said while they were being counted. translationzlj he said while they were being counted. translation: i honestly believe we have earned the right to believe we have earned the right to be heard, the right to talk directly to the institutions of the european union so we can present our vision of things. on this day of hope and suffering catalonia's citizens have earned the right to have an independent state in the form of a republic. there are two quite different narratives on this story. that is one and here is the other from spain's this story. that is one and here is the otherfrom spain's prime minister. translation: right nowl can minister. translation: right now i can tell you all emphatically what we have found today and what you already know is that there was no independence referendum catalonia today. but because of the violence, because of the vote itself, everyone has got up this monday morning and asked, what is going to happen next? what will barcelona do next? what will madrid do next? gavin lee is in barcelona and i put that point to him. if you walk around the streets here, whether it's the thousands of people with the catalan flags of
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yellow and red, or whether it is those who didn't vote, who believe that they should not be independence, and feel both catalan and spanish, they are saying the same thing, where do we go from here and what happens now? if you look at what president carlos bridgeman has said today, he talked about a smooth transition to independence —— colour split might. 2 million people voted and 90% said yes. they are talking about and enacting a law that only came into power in the catalan parliament in august, which is a transition to an independent act. the timing is contentious because madrid try to stop it but it was enacted in the catalan parliament. that isjudicial powers, enacted in the catalan parliament. that is judicial powers, this all powers and policing powers coming under the umbrella of the catalan government. if this happens by tomorrow night, as it may well happen, the spanish government has said they will enact article 155 of their constitution, meaning they will overrule the catalan government. these are unprecedented
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times andi government. these are unprecedented times and i note superlatives have been used a lot because a lot of people are in the dark on this. it is worth saying tomorrow could make a difference, there will be lots of protests a nd a difference, there will be lots of protests and a general strike in barcelona. a lot of people who are saying whether it is taxis, possibly airport workers, people in businesses and shops, will stop working, trying to slow down the heart of life in the city and affect the economy too. it sounds like a long time over the next 24 hours about where this could go. there is more information on that story and oui’ more information on that story and our lead story on the shootings in las vegas by the bbc website. there is full coverage on bbc.com/news. now here in the uk. it's the conservative party conference in manchester this week. that's the annual gathering of party members, mps and journalists — when they debate policy and decide on the party's future direction. today the chancellor, philip hammond, has been trying to reassure business and industry about the impact of brexit. here is some of that. we are leaving
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the eu, not leaving europe. our economic future will remain closely linked with the eu for many good reasons. but our political future will be our own. are eu partners can go their way. we wish them well but we will not be joining them on a voyage to ever closer union. we must resolve the short—term challenge of the uncertainty around this process by accelerating the talks and delivering a time limited interim period of around two years for our businesses to adjust. our objective is to make britain safer, stronger and richer, and as the prime minister said in florence ten days ago, that objective is what will guide us in our negotiations. philip hammond talking about a transition period. have known for a while he is
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enthusiastic for a more cautious approach to brexit. the bbc‘s political correspondent ben bright was talking to us about the contents of that speech. not a great deal that was new, a restating of the government's position seeking a two—year transition, one as far as philip hammond is concerned, as close a relationship with the eu during that period and after into this new partnership the uk will have with the eu but we didn't learn much more frankly about the government's brexit plans in this interview. what we did get was a full throttle tag onjeremy corbyn, saying that he represented dinosaur socialism and said they needed to be defeated by believers in capitalism and the free market, telling you something about this conference that they are rattled byjeremy corbyn's labour party, which is no surprise because the last time the tory party conference happened they had a majority, then they took a pummelling in june
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majority, then they took a pummelling injune and they are trying to figure out how to take on jeremy corbyn and what to do about the existential threat in british politics about how the british economy should be run. there is a lot of anxiety about where the tory party finds itself in this political maelstrom. presumably the challenge is to at once take on jeremy presumably the challenge is to at once take onjeremy corbyn, but also to make space to look backwards and understand why the election didn't go to plan. absolutely right and i'm not sure how close they are to finding the answer to some of those questions. i watched finding the answer to some of those questions. iwatched philip finding the answer to some of those questions. i watched philip hammond ata questions. i watched philip hammond at a fringe event about a hour ago and he said, i am just baffled, kept saying, about why so many young people who voted forjeremy corbyn, would do so knowing the sort of economic solutions he was putting forward , economic solutions he was putting forward, he didn't understand it and urged businesses to swing behind the
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government and make the case for the free—market. this party is feeling bruised and clearly there are big divisions within its about the fundamental issue facing this government, which is how to approach brexit. i have heard a number of tories say brexit is important but we have a whole load of other policies we want to talk about as well. to what degree are they proving able to do that, or is brexit overshadowing everything?m is brexit overshadowing everything7m is strange, at previous tory conferences there were big thumping chunky policy announcements on a variety of issues rolled out by now and we have had some stuff around student fees, we have had a policy talk around housing, but nothing really that feels particularly substantial. it is a fairly policy lite conference so far. you are right, one of theresa may's hopes this week is to use it as a platform to read present the tory party as
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something that has a broad suite of policies that it cares about and priorities beyond brexit and it will not just be a priorities beyond brexit and it will notjust be a government defined by pulling britain out of the european union. in truth, i'm not sure anything has happened so far that changes the impression that this is a government entirely focused around the brexit agenda and all of the subsequent questions about how united this cabinet is around that position. thanks to ben and plenty more coverage from the conservative party conference through the week from bbc news. this is kimjong—nam — he was the half brother of north korea's leader kim jong—un. and he's the man who was murdered at kuala lumpur airport. this was the cctv footage. you may remember this from the time of the story. it shows the attack. a woman ina of the story. it shows the attack. a woman in a white top put their hands around the face of somebody in front of her. the woman in white here
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reaching towards the man in front of her. the woman wearing a white top. the two women accused of this crime have gone on trial and both pled not guilty. at their trial just outside guilty. at their trialjust outside kuala lumpur the two women face charges of murder, which carries the death penalty. but their lawyers say they we re penalty. but their lawyers say they were duped in bed believing they would taking part in the televised prank —— into believing. the trial could help to shed light on who organised the assassination and how. it is widely presumed that kim jong—nam, estranged from his half brother kim jong—un, and jong—nam, estranged from his half brother kimjong—un, and at jong—nam, estranged from his half brother kim jong—un, and at times critical of him, was killed on his orders. four north koreans also charged by the malaysian police are still at large and probably back in north korea. earlier this year, malaysia bowed to pressure from pyongyang and allowed three north korean suspects to return to their
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country, along, it is thought, with the body of kim jong—nam. country, along, it is thought, with the body of kimjong—nam. in return nine malaysian embassy officials and theirfamilies were nine malaysian embassy officials and their families were allowed to leave north korea. a once cordial relationship between the two countries was shattered. but it's not clear how much more of this extraordinary episode malaysia will wa nt to extraordinary episode malaysia will want to make public. jonathan head, bbc news, bangkok. we have covered stories from malaysia, spain, the us and the uk and we are going to turn now to the palestinian territories. there has been an important development today for the palestinians. their prime minister is making a rare trip to gaza. he is based in the west bank. this is significant because gaza is controlled by hamas. and it has been bitterly divided from fatah since a violent rift in 2007. the prime minister belongs to fatah. these are some pictures from today. that's the prime minister walking around. surrounded by lots of security guards and other interested parties. in advance of this, hamas
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disbanded its administration to make way for a unity government — so it seems both sides want this resolved. here's bbc arabic‘s murad shishani on the importance of this. the locals here consider this as a big moment, the biggest two organisations, palestinian parties organisations, palestinian parties organisations, hamas, the islamic leaning group, on the other hand the palestinian represented with fatah, a social movement, one of the oldest palestinian political movements. they have been divided for ten years since hamas took control of the gaza strip, a tiny triangle that isolated for the last ten years, also considered the threat from the security perspective of the israel security perspective of the israel security perspective. now the locals are saying there is a power cut here, they don't have access to clea n here, they don't have access to clean water, so such agreement could
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bring all of these day—to—day problems to be solved by this agreement. yes, there has been a previous visit by the prime minister of the palestinian authorities but this is the first time he is coming with a deal, there is a regional agreement led by egypt, the closest arab country to the gaza strip and they are putting all of the pressure to make this happen. locals, politicians, they are not really pushing this to happen but we need to remember there are loads of problems they need to solve like the security apparatus, how they handle their authorities to others. secondly, the public servants. there have been more than 30,000 public serva nts have been more than 30,000 public servants working under the palestinian authority. then they stopped going to work ten years ago. hamas hired new people so you had thousands of people with a lack of salaries. now you need to redeploy
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and put them back in theirjobs if they can. might this have an impact on how the palestinians engage with the israelis? of course this is the major question because the international community, i'm talking about the united states, they are putting the pressure that hamas needs to have a softer position towards israel, either one way or the other. if you look to the palestinian authorities‘ perspective highly coordinated with israel it might soften the security burden of hamas ran now from the israelis who are using now, i don‘t know if you can see here, there are drones going around gaza because of the blockade. it is hard to access and infiltrate for israelis who consider this area and hamas a security threat, therefore maybe bringing egyptians,
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who had a peace accord a long time ago with the israelis as well as the prime —— palestinian authority coordinating already with israel. that mightjust ease this block we can see around the peace process in the middle east. thank you. this applies to most of you, if you read arabic you can get news at bbc arabic.com. i want to go back over the most important elements of our lead story, the horrific attack in las vegas. it began just after 10pm. there was a large music festival taking place. ifi there was a large music festival taking place. if i bring up the image you will get an idea of the geography. that is the mandalay bay hotel and just across the strip you can see we have marked the music festival. in this part of las vegas a huge crowd was gathered, around 22,000 people were listening to a country gig. that is when the attack happened. as you would expect, many
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people had smartphones on them so a number of people captured the moments when the attack began. rapid gunfire. i need to take the video. rapid gunfire. screams. some of those caught up in this horror spoke to reporters in the moments afterwards. they started shooting. everybody thought it was fireworks or something at first and people
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started dropping around us. we heard the shots and i don't think anybody realised at first what was going on until we have the second set of shots. rapid gunfire. everybody started running and then there was nowhere to run because we didn‘t know where it was coming from. he fired and then went quiet and then fired again and then we realised it was an automatic. it just and then we realised it was an automatic. itjust kept on happening and there were short increments when there were breaks between the shots. but it literally felt like it just continued for 20 minutes straight. there was a break we ran and we ran. once we got out the back we started seeing the people that were shot and the people that were dead. that is when it hit me that this was real. this is a photo of the gunman,
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stephen paddock, the photo was released by his family and his brother has been talking. i couldn‘t be more dumbfounded. i mean... it doesn‘t... there is nothing. you lost communication? there is nothing, i could show you the text, he said how is mum? did you get power? that was it. absolutely, we have nothing for you, like i said. i mean, i hope someone finds out, figures out, because we‘d like to know. the fbi at the moment is saying it doesn‘t understand the motivation of the gunman. we will have further coverage tomorrow from las vegas. goodbye. hello, as you might expect at the
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beginning of october, the weather has taken on a decidedly autumnal feel, and i think we are going to stick with that through the week ahead. in terms of what we see, we are going to see a couple of different faces of autumn, the blue sky face of autumn, spells of sunshine, equally at other times there will be strong winds, rough seas and saint—cloud and outbreaks of rain. it is areas of high pressure and areas of low pressure that determine which side of autumn we are going to see. one area of low pressure pushing away to the north—east, still windy across northern scotland for the first part of tuesday, high—pressure building in from the south—west. on balance, tuesdayis in from the south—west. on balance, tuesday is a high—pressure day. for most it will be dry, some spells of sunshine, showers in the north—west but fairly light and scattered, some places but fairly light and scattered, some pla ces eve n but fairly light and scattered, some places even here will stay com pletely places even here will stay completely dry. it will be breezy but not as windy as monday and temperatures no great shakes, 13-17d. but with temperatures no great shakes, 13—17d. but with high pressure in
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charge during tuesday night, at this time of year high—pressure can mean a chilly night, and that will be the case in southern areas where it remains clear that the longest, lighter winds, towns and cities in the countryside could be low enough for a touch of ground frost. things will already be changing in the north—west during wednesday, low pressure starting to control the scene once again, saint—cloud, outbreaks of rain pushing south across scotland, northern england, northern ireland, hefty showers in northern scotland, the last vestiges of high—pressure keeping things drive through the day across southern areas. —— some cloud. on wednesday night, some uncertainty in the forecast. you can see the way the forecast. you can see the way the weather front is waving and in this wave in the weather front there isa this wave in the weather front there is a chance we could develop quite a tight area of low—pressure. uncertainty about just how tight area of low—pressure. uncertainty aboutjust how deep that low will be and consequently uncertainty about just how wet and how windy it could be. there could be some strong winds on wednesday night and the first part of
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thursday. that low should pull away to the east and through thursday itself, stills and showers in the eastern areas, drier weather developing in the west, 12—17d. the high pressure will once again be building its weight in into friday. high—pressure can give us chilly nights, chilly night on friday, a touch of frost in places, the odd fog patch, but friday will be a fine day, spells of sunshine around, temperatures in 11—16d at best. high—pressure will continue to dominate for the start of the weekend towards the south—east but you guessed it, low—pressure returns from the north—west through saturday bringing cloud and outbreaks of rain through northern ireland, scotland, western areas of england and wales. this very changeable theme is down to the jet stream, which as we go into next week, will continue to have a rather wavy appearance. there will be these troughs that come
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through and in the troughs areas of low pressure will develop and in the ridges, the ridges given a chance for high—pressure to build in meaning ina for high—pressure to build in meaning in a nutshell it will stay changeable into next week. the wettest weather is likely to be in the north, and a risk of gales at times, particularly for the middle pa rt times, particularly for the middle part of the week, i suspect. we will see some sunshine, wet and windy weather too command all the while, quite an autumnal feel. tonight at ten, the worst mass shooting in modern us history. at least 58 dead and more than 500 injured at a music festival in las vegas. the gunman fired at a crowd of thousands of people from his room in a nearby hotel, causing panic as people tried to escape. gunfire the concert—goers scrambled for cover, rushing for exits and helping others to escape as they realised the full horror of what was happening. all of a sudden we heard pop, pop,
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p0p, pep, pop, countless times and we all thought it was firecrackers. and then it kept on going, then quiet for a bit and then he fired another 15, 20 rounds and that‘s when we realised it was a fully automatic. we started seeing the people who were shot, and the people that were dead, and that's when it hit me that this was real.
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