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tuuf ‘ur reporting one thing and changing within half an hour and saying the police are keeping an open mind. that is what we are being told. they are still trying to establish what went on, who this man is. they will be gathering statements. it is a very fluid situation. and they will want to do this as quickly as possible, but they can ta ke quickly as possible, but they can take the time to be sure of the fa cts , take the time to be sure of the facts, can't they, because they have got the situation contained? that's right. the big thing here is public reassurance. if it isn't terrorist related they need to be able to go out to the say, look, this was an u nfortu nate out to the say, look, this was an unfortunate accident and a number of people have been injured and dreadful afternoon for them and theirfamilies dreadful afternoon for them and their families and people close to them. so they need to be able to go out and give that public reassurance or if it is something else, before they say anything, they have to be 100% certain of their facts and we are waiting in this news environment
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we are in, people want information quickly and we are hearing a lot of very, very emotional reports from eyewitnesses on the ground. people are fearing the worst down there in south kensington. the met have not called this either way at the moment. june, thank you very much. let's recap. several people have been injured amid reports that a car mounted a pavement outside the natural history museum and struck pedestrians. a man was detained at the scene. police say they are keeping an open mind about whether or not the incident was terrorism related. the area in south kensington is a hub for tourism. downing street said the prime minister is being kept up—to—date with events and you are seeing some of the latest images here that we have received from the scene. there
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ist have received from the scene. there is t individual being held down on the ground. some damage has been caused when the vehicle, that's the car, which is being obscured from view at the moment and there it is again now that the taxi has moved away. you can that black car in between two other cars. that's the car that police are looking at and that we understand that man was driving. so, some damage to that vehicle. perhaps others evident from the debris on the ground, but it's remarkable as well that people in the vicinity are walking, not running. they are looking calm. and it is almost as if life is unfolding and continuing around this incident, but then we know from the people that we've talked to, that actually, the emergency services moved in incredibly quickly. threw up a cordon and got people moving away
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from the natural history museum and from the natural history museum and from other buildings in the vicinity. getting them out of the way while they tried to establish what exactly is happening. we foe that a number of people have been injured. we haven't been told yet how many or the nature of their injuries, but we have been led to believe that the injuries aren't serious. we certainly hope that is the case. and it has been reported now that police are very much keeping an open mind as to whether this was a terrorism related incident or not. could it have been an unfortunate accident? we don't know at this stage. the police are not saying anything further. they will, of course, want to update people as soon as they can. either
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to confirm whether it was something ofa to confirm whether it was something of a sinister nature or the opposite, to reassure people that it wasn't and that is what we are waiting to hear from the police. wasn't and that is what we are waiting to hearfrom the police. and the live shots here of the area around the museum in south kensington. you can see the plastic tape marking out the cordons on the roads surrounding it. and what would be normally an incredibly busy saturday in this area. well, it's altered by events of this afternoon. it's still busy, of course, in the areas beyond the cordon, but normally you would have thousands of people outside and around the natural history museum. tourists from abroad. local people, families,
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visiting with their children, but we've heard from a number of eyewitnesses how although the police moved in very quickly and clearly we re moved in very quickly and clearly were urgently trying to get people away from the scene in large part, the people in the area responded very calmly and these are some new pictures just very calmly and these are some new picturesjust coming in very calmly and these are some new pictures just coming in to us of armed police in the area. we should stress that this is procedural. the response that we have seen from the police this afternoon is what they would do in terms of a precautionary exercise in any incident where there isa exercise in any incident where there is a doubt over the motives behind the incident. they would move in in large numbers to secure the area as
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a precaution. so we don't know yet how long the police will remain in the area as they continue their investigations around the area of exhibition road, cromwell road in south kensington. and i think i can, no, i thought i could bring you another witness, but we can't go to herjust yet. what we can bring you is the conversation i had earlier with damien hackett who was behind the police cordon. this is what he told me. well, we've been moved away from the area now. in quite a hurry to be honest about it. when we had arrived there, the incident had already taken police there, the incident had already ta ken police and there, the incident had already taken police and the police were responding. they set up a cordon and where we were stationed and we were standing there for a moment trying to figure out, what do we do, we
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didn't know halfs going on. the police came charging towards the crowd and everybody was instructed to get out of there now. get out of there now. so we all legged it and ran. there were tables knocked over at restaurants and people were screaming. it was quite a scene at that stage and we still didn't know halfs going. we left. so from your description, it's fair to say that was a certainly a degree of there was a certainly a degree of urgency in the way that people were moving people away from the area, a huge degree of concern? absolutely. we were adamant that everyone was gone from that area. i heard one policeman shouting, "run and don't stop running." they were keen that we got out of there. so you haven't seen first hand, have you, damien, the vehicle which our reporter nearby described to me as having perhaps one wheel on the pavement? no, we, well we did see a vehicle,
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but we didn't identify it. it wasn't moving when we saw it, but we were just there as it as the police were responding, we were turning up at the same time. so yes, we missed the beginning of it. and just as i speak to you, damien, we arejust receiving a very brief statement from the natural history museum saying there has been a serious incident outside and that they are working with the police. that is the extent of the statement. the natural history museum saying there has been a serious incident outside. they are working with the police. damien, tell us more about the response of people as the police came towards them and told them to get out of the area? there was a quite of a relaxed atmosphere at the start. it was almost like people were trying to queue up to have a little look and see halfs going on. there wasn't a real sense of emergency at that stage for some reason. then, it was
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as ifa stage for some reason. then, it was as if a button was switched and the other police, not the normal police, the guys with the face masks and the guns and all that, they started charging towards the crowd en masse and started shouting at us to get out of there urgently, now, now, and run and keep running and they were pretty much, i mean in fairness, nobody was going to ignore themment they were adamant that we had to be out there. they felt the worst could escalate, or maybe they weren't aware of the level of containment they needed to engage in to make sure nobody was caught up in whatever was going on or perhaps they didn't know how many people we re they didn't know how many people were involved in the act itselfment so they were just taking action. the atmosphere changed from being calm and observing to people were fleeing for what seemed like their lives. the panic seemed to ripple across
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the crowd and it was busy. people were, we were having to struggle to get out of there. table were being knocked over in restaurants, i'm sure there was damage done to restau ra nts a nd sure there was damage done to restaurants and so we just kept moving out of the way. trying to gauge halfs going on and which direction to go and whatnot. a little bit exciting to say the least. but now, where you are, pretty calm, would you say? ? quiet? yes. as soon as you get towards high street kensington, it is business as usual. people are obviously unaware that less than a quarter of a mile away there is serious panic going on. it is pretty bizarre to be honest with you. the shops, people are wandering down the streets in the shop and business as usual. and that was damien hackett. now, we are going to show you a number of images of the streets surrounding the museum. strangely, quiet. this
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is exhibition road here. for what would be normally a very busy saturday afternoon, many visitors, both from the uk and abroad, many families visiting the museum and i think we can move on to a shot of the cromwell road. again, you can see how quiet it is there. compared to what it would normally be. you can see the tape across the road. the police cordon and cordons plural in place on the roads surrounding the natural history museum. just to remind you that we understand that police are keeping an open mind as to what the nature of this incident was, but they're not confirming that it was a terrorist incident. they're not confirming that it was an u nfortu nate not confirming that it was an unfortunate accident, they are keeping an open minute. we certainly don't know at the moment. we don't know if the police have managed to
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establish that themselves, but obviously, caution is extremely important in circumstances like this. the police, of course, will wa nt to this. the police, of course, will want to either confirm one thing or the other for the public as quickly as they can. but they have emphasised on their twitter feed, the metropolitan police that it is extremely important to be accurate in these circumstances. even thou, of course, understand, people have been speculating all sorts of things and certainly that this could be something sinister. we know that a number of people have been injured, but we don't know exactly how many or the nature of their injuries. when the car, the car in the middle of that image, the
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black car, apparently mounted or partially mounted the pavement outside the natural history museum. you can some daobry on the road there. and the image to the right of your screen of the man who is being detained, being held down before police arrived. well, on the line is monika, who like many other people, have been affected by the events unfolding in south kensington. mon i can ka, tell us south kensington. mon i can ka, tell us where you south kensington. mon i can ka, tell us where you were south kensington. mon i can ka, tell us where you were when this was happening? hi. we were walking with my daughterfrom happening? hi. we were walking with my daughter from the gloucester road side because we were trying to get a bus to fulham road from south kensington station. so we were literally on the cromwell road walking towards the natural history museum when suddenly the police
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arrived. they closed off the road. they closed off the road as you were attempting to walk down it? we thought it was a car accident. i was looking and i couldn't see a car on the road. all i could see was the road closed from queen'sgate and then across from the other side going up as if you were going exhibition road and much more police presence on that side. so ijust told people to avoid the area because i thought it was a car accident. i couldn't see a car. i said to my daughter that we are going to walk to fulham road because it would be impossible, the traffic is crazy. so that is what we did. we
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turned around and walked back towards gloucester road and made our way to that area, gloucester road and chelsea to get to fulham road to meet with our friends and i think it was when i was outside the coffee shop when i saw the bbc news pop up, it came up on my phone, breaking news when i realised what had happened. i was just news when i realised what had happened. i wasjust about to ask you, it seems at that point you were unaware of the scale of the police response and the police might be responding to something bigger than an accident? no, no, not at all. i was so upset when i saw the news. i understand now that it is not confirmed really what happened, but you know, if it was a terrorist attack, i mean obviously, we were not aware. the police were really calm. so were the people. there was no panic. no, you know, the police we re no panic. no, you know, the police were not telling us anything. all
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they said was that... we must leave it there. thank you very much. so just to recap then as we look at these images this afternoon of the streets surrounding the natural history museum in south kensington in london. a police cordon still in place on many of those roads as police try to establish the exact nature of the incident that unfolded there earlier this afternoon. they we re there earlier this afternoon. they were called around 2.20pm to what was described as a collision at the natural history museum. a number of people, an unknown number of people, injured in that collision. we're not aware yet of the nature or the extent of their injuries. but then police, first of all said this they
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had arrested a man. but then later revised that to say they had detained a man. the driver, we assume, of this black vehicle that you can see in between the two other ca rs you can see in between the two other cars in the image on your screens now. i think we can show you that image of or images of the man being held down on the pavement. people still moving very calmly in the background. i'm not sure people were initially entirely aware what was going on, but we have heard that the police and museum staff very quickly evacuated the museum. people were moved away. those cordons were put in place. tube stations in the area
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also affected by this with, we have heard about the evacuation of south kensington underground for example. so those are lautest lines coming to us on so those are lautest lines coming to us on this incident in south kensington. downing street are saying that the prime minister is being kept up—to—date with what is going on. the police say they are keeping an open minute at this stage as to what is the precise nature of this incident. so we await an update from the metropolitan police. we are going to pause and bring you some of the day's other main news. huge rammies have been taking place across spain as tensions continue over catalonia's demand for independence. in madrid, tens of thousands of people have been showing their support for spanish unity. across the country
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campaigners calling for dialogue between madrid and barcelona gathered outside town halls. gavin lee reports. madrid, this morning. tens of thousands of people, responding to the spanish government's call to take to the streets and show support to try to keep their country together. three days from an expected announcement by the catalan government to separate the region. this is barcelona. protests of a different kind. dressed in white, thousands who call themselves the silent majority, feeling caught in the middle and scared of what comes next. the movement was born by social media, under the hashtag, less talk. iam here, personally, as i feel we need a dialogue. politicians have not been doing theirjob really well. our sole objective is that people and above all, politicians talk to each other. we are seen for too long this confrontation between both sides, and we think that now the people must show that we
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want dialogue. the same on the streets of alicante too. and elsewhere, the movement shows a wider sense of the frustration. but while there is no sign of dialogue between the spanish and the catalan governments, there are signs those on both sides would be willing to soften their position. gavin gave us this update earlier. it has quietened down a little bit. but for the past couple of hours it has been full of people, thousands of people in white saying that there must be a need to talk. notjust here but in seville, madrid and alicante. massive crowds turning up. whilst there is a call for dialogue, what we're hearing from the catalan government at the moment and carles puigdemont is that there will be a delay on tuesday before he speaks to parliament.
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my understanding is there will be a 48—hour period after that, where he describes how unilateral independence will work. that takes us to thursday. and according to some of those inside the catalan government, their preference is for mediation and possibly having an official referendum. so not going through it like this, but seeing of the spanish government will talk. and at the moment there is no sign of that. he has marched his followers to the top of the hill. the big question is what he will do next, whether there will be any sign of goodwill, any sign of give and take from the government of mariano rajoy? yes, two things to bear in mind. one is the spanish government has kept a pretty consistent and hard line when it comes to any type of negotiation, saying this is against the constitution, that they are agitators and separatist parties. as soon as you let the swiss in, who offered to mediate yesterday, you give both parties room for manoeuvre. that puts the spanish government
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in a weaker position. i am told that behind closed doors there may be some kind of private mediation that they may be looking at. nothing confirmed by the spanish government. briefly, we are hearing voices from the past in catalonia. the old president saying in the newspapers yesterday that he believes there are ministers who believe it isn't the moment for independence, they need to work out how they do it with fiscal powers, policing powers, judicial powers, and that could take time. so that may be why we are having a slight delay until next week. but there is nothing clear at the moment. there are renewed fears for the future of jobs at the bombardier aerospace factory in belfast. the us government has announced a further increase of tariffs on planes made by the company, making it prohibitively expensive to import them. the united states claims bombardier has received unfair financial support from the uk and canada, where the planes are assembled. joe lynam reports.
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bombardier and its predecessor, shorts, have been at the heart of the manufacturing economy in belfast for decades. 4,000 skilled workers make hi—tech composite wings in a province that does not have many of those jobs. but over the past fortnight, potential american tariffs have placed a huge question mark over their future. now in a new blow, the us commerce department slapped a further 80% tariff on bombardier planes, meaning all of its largest aircraft could soon face import duties of up to 300% in america. it looms very large over these workers and it's time for this british government to actually step up for british workers. we see the british government being bullied now, the british government being bullied by boeing. the eu needs to step in because they are being bullied now, too. it needs to stop and it
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needs to stop now. for bombardier workers, it is a waiting game. we have still got a job to do. we have got to keep working away. it will affect the whole company whatever the outcome is. this is the plane that the americans object to — the c series, is assembled in canada with wings made and sent from belfast. but the americans claim it's received $1 billion in subsidies from the canadians which allows it is to undercut boeing in bidding for contracts. this all puts theresa may in a bind. her pact with the dup keeps her in power and the bombardier factory is dup heartland. but she also knows that boeing employs nearly 19,000 elsewhere in the uk and is building a factory in sheffield. we have an international regulatory
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regime which has worked extremely well. these type of measures threaten competition and innovation and asa threaten competition and innovation and as a consequence, that's bad news for consumers wherever they are. these 300% tariffs are recommendations by one branch of the us government. if there's no solution, though, they will come into force in february. in that time, the nails of thousands of workers here and trade negotiators on both sides of the atlantic will be bitten down to the quick. a recap on our main story. the incident that's happened outside the natural history museum in south kensington in london. it involves this car, the car in the middle of the image between the two other vehicles, the black vehicle there, there is some evidence of debris on there is some evidence of debris on the ground. it has mounted or partially mounted the pavement and a number of people have been hurt. we
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haven't been told how many or the nature of those injuries. this happened around 2.20pm this afternoon. 0n happened around 2.20pm this afternoon. on a bhizy saturday afternoon. on a bhizy saturday afternoon and then the driver of that vehicle, the man, being held on the ground. police say they have detained him. they haven't formally arrested him, but they say they have detained this individual while they try to establish the nature of this incident. we understand that the metropolitan police are keeping an open mind as to whether this incident is terrorism related or was some sort of unfortunate accident. we simply don't know at the moment. downing street says that the prime minister is being kept informed of developments. armed police are out in large numbers in the area with cordons on the roads around south
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kensington. museum. but from the witnesses that we've spoken to, we've had descriptions of how quickly the emergency services moved into place to get people out of the way and to put that cordon in place. much more on that coming up at 5pm, but right now, we will look at the weather forecast with nick miller. hello. however your saturday turned out, many of us will have a brighter day tomorrow, but this is how it looked in paris earlier today. we did seea looked in paris earlier today. we did see a bit of sunshine for a time, but we have had this area of rain pushing southwards. a few brea ks rain pushing southwards. a few breaks in the cloud at time overnight through eastern parts of the uk. they maybe fleeting. some of us the uk. they maybe fleeting. some of us will ended the day with sunny spells. showery outbreaks of rain at time and temperatures not going down too far. let's look at things, 9am
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sunday. a few showers running into northern and western parts of scotland. patchy rain in northern ireland. it should cheer up in the afternoon, but that will be heading into western parts of scotland. with the wind direction we will have showers running into north—west england and north wales and towards the midlands and there is a chance we will see outbreaks of rain coming back towards cornwall into the morning. maybe the odd fleeting shower running into south—east epg. a lot of cloud to begin the day, but there will be a few sunny breaks. as there will be a few sunny breaks. as the day goes on, more of us will start to brien upment some sunny spells developing here and there and with lighter winds it will feel warmer, but there you see the patchy rain from northern ireland edging into western scotland with a freshening breeze and temperatures around 15 to 18 celsius. it is parts of eastern england into the south east, probably most favoured for seeing sunny spells into the afternoon. this is the picture into the evening. 0utbreaks this is the picture into the evening. outbreaks of rain affecting western scotland. there are more
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world world cup qualifiers taking place on sun evening. there is a range of weather. it is wettest for the lithuania, england match. that's how sunday is shaping up. on monday, afairamount of how sunday is shaping up. on monday, a fair amount of cloud. a few showery bursts towards the north and the west in particular. 0utbreaks showery bursts towards the north and the west in particular. outbreaks of rain starting to edge this. that's as the weather system pushes southwards across the uk on monday night and into tuesday. heavy rain for a time or into western scotland. breezier across all parts going into tuesday. rain clearing away from south—east england and maybe as late as lunch time, elsewhere turning sunnier and a few showers in the north—west. this is bbc news.
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i'm annita mcveigh. the headlines at 5. several people are injured in an incident outside london's natural history museum, after a car mounted the pavement and struck pedestrians. i heard a couple of loud bangs and did not think much of it, thought it was a car backfiring. then there we re was a car backfiring. then there were screams and a large crowd came through. police are trying to establish whether it's terror—related — one person has been detained following the incident. also in the next hour: concerns for one of northern ireland's biggest employers. that's after us authorities impose more heavy tariffs on bombardier planes. calls for unity in spain, as a huge rally takes place in madrid following last weekend's disputed referendum for catalan independence.

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