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on the website. see you details on the website. see you again in about half an hour. the papers in a moment. first the headlines at 11:30pm: in barcelona, hundreds of thousands demonstrate forunity in spain following catalonia's banned independence referendum. theresa may says she's determined to carry on as prime minister as one of her predecessors calls for an end to tory infighting. as the snp conference gets under way, nicola sturgeon says she won't think about a timescale on a second independence referendum until the brexit deal becomes clearer. 35 years after the original blade runner 2049 starring harrison ford
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and ryan gosling is out. we'll get mark kermode's thoughts on this and the rest of the week's film releases in the film review. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are sebastian payne of the ft and asa bennett of the telegraph. but first let's have a quick look at some of the front pages. the ft highlights comments from the outgoing german finance minister and his warning that spiralling levels of global debt and liquidity present a major risk to the world economy. the metro chooses to focus on an investigation that shows sexual abuse of children by other children has soared by nearly three quarters over the last four years the daily express concentrates on brexit, claiming theresa may will warn eu chiefs that not enough progress
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is being made, and brussels must stop "stonewalling." the times also says the prime minister will warn eu leaders that britain won't make more concessions on brexit until they compromise on opening trade and transition talks. while the guardian reports that philip hammond's treasury is being accused of "anti—brexit gloom." the i says the prime minister is getting a grip on her position as leader, and may sack borisjohnson. the daily telegraph is predicting thousands of shops and businesses will ignore the deadline to stop accepting old one pound coins, despite warnings that it could create chaos. and the daily mirror report that many of us are now paying for private waste collections with most households having to wait a fortnight for their their rubbish to be cleared. we will start with the times and what theresa may is going to tell the new apparently, the ball is in your court, she says, she's going to go on an offensive. she's going to do what they do with it. they are a wall so there's not really a tennis match in this negotiating game. squash. a different field were
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talking about. what's intriguing is how they're saying senior government forces are trying to go over michel barnier‘s head in the hope eu leaders can muck in and make it more flexible. but yet it is bizarre because they are all in this together, you can't have them thinking of michel barnier as a rogue misinterpreting things and not playing ball. he's the official negotiator of the eu 27 representing their combined will. when she's quoted as saying on her cabinet that it's not her style to shirk from a challenge but she's got a challenge ahead of her! how many times do we have to go through this, we want to talk about trade, not. a lot for the next two years i think! we have hit a complete freeze between the talks, that's the danger, we have this crucial summit on october the 19th, that's when the eu 27 will look at
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the progress and ask if it is sufficient to talk about trade and the future relationship because that's what theresa may really wants to focus on not the messy divorce bill but the future of it. what they're trying to do is the times is reporting they want to split the eu commissioner from the member states, michel barnier was very negative, as wasjean—claude michel barnier was very negative, as was jean—claude juncker, but she michel barnier was very negative, as wasjean—claude juncker, but she is saying to macron and merkel, let's not get bogged down in petty politics, let's focus on the wider goal of this deep and special partnership. i think they are misreading the eu here, the eu has been so clear, we have a mandate, michel barnier is our negotiator, it's up to him and if he says november we say no topic this idea of playing divide and ruin, the classic british foreign policy tactic, isn't going to work —— we say no. it is important for theresa may's leadership and how she's regarded in this country, particularly by her own party, as we
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see in the daily telegraph, sack rs and refused to go but boris wouldn't go easily. it wouldn't be a simple move “— go easily. it wouldn't be a simple move —— sack boris. the remainers say if you get the blonde bombshell that steals all the headlines it will be fine, you can have more of an even keel. you have to remember what he's doing, he is the brexiteer, mr vote leave, representing brexit britain in cabinet. his goodwill means there's grit to it. if you try to demote him and make him just an office cleaner oi’ and make him just an office cleaner ora and make him just an office cleaner or a teaboy, it's not taking him seriously enough. i'm not saying that's a move that should be seriously considered. this is why there is these venomous quotes from allies ofjohnson in our story of people saying there is a stench of death from downing street. others saying it will go down like a cup of cold sick if you demote boris. if you start with him the brexiteers
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would demand philip hammond's head, civil war would resume again. you can't refuse to leave your post if you're told to by the prime minister, can you? not unless you chain yourself to a cabinet table and have a sit in protest. the key calculation downing street will make is if they're going to try to move fore st is if they're going to try to move forest they have to offer him something he will accept because if they offer a portfolio that is too junior, minister for paperclips or something, he said he's not going to ta ke something, he said he's not going to take it, either i go totally or i stay where i am. this happened in 2014 when david cameron tried to move iain duncan smith, then secretary of state for the department of work and pensions but iain duncan smith said no, i'm not moving, either put me on the backbenches or i'm and david cameron backed down and said leave me where lam. backed down and said leave me where iam.| backed down and said leave me where i am. i think theresa may won't do that given the caustic quotes we have here. the ft, debt and liquidity levels in danger global
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economy, a headline we could have read about nine years ago. it's amazing, ten years on from the crash and we are back where we started. wolfgang schoenberg, the german finance minister, leaving after a long run, off to be the speaker of the bundestag after the recent elections, he is warning debt, both public and private, is that very worrying levels here and it's a warning to other leaders saying don't be fiscally irresponsible, don't be fiscally irresponsible, don't let this debt pile up and run away but it is easy for him to say because he doesn't have to do it for one. germany is in a very healthy financial position, huge amounts of budget surpluses. it's good for him to say that, harder if you are france, poland or the to say that, harder if you are france, poland orthe uk, there is a much more fragile, fragile financial situation there. it makes it difficult for the bank of england here because of what kind of debt people have here. a lot of the problems have been consumer debt and
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maxing on credit cards, spend, spend, spend. he's reminding people they still have to tighten their belts. he might be worried about the rise of left—wing populism in the uk with jeremy corbyn rise of left—wing populism in the uk withjeremy corbyn and bernie sanders in the uk, people across the world will be saying the magic money tree he's saying it at a price. world will be saying the magic money tree he's saying it at a pricem you compare their views to philip hammond's, this they are similarly, but philip hammond has said we've had all these years of austerity, let's end a bit. the german former chancellor is saying absolutely not. the ft, huge march in barcelona calls for unity, huge, different to the scenes last week when police we re the scenes last week when police were told to suppress the independence referendum, which is regarded as illegal by the spanish government. people being smacked on the head and battered. it is less
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gerrish seems, instead it is love bombing, trying to charm them, saying don't believe us, be proud to be catalan and spanish —— gerrish. that's what you want from the message for spanish unity. almost whitewashing the police reaction. if you are able to be more sincere and moderate, this is why... it's been very much paramount in catalonia, it doesn't seem to be ready to declare unilateral independence, tensions are being eased. not yet but lots of people still want to be on the path towards it. these are the tensions that have to be managed, now catalonian independence looks like a real thing. attitudes will change a lot. looking at brexit here, people would have thought differently if they thought it was going to happen so they thought it was going to happen so the question is do they hold a proper referendum that is legally and constitutionally justified? if
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they keep clamping down on public opinion like that in this way it will only backfire and the pictures we've had from police, the strong messages from mr rajoy and the king aren't helping matters. calming the temperature will be a good thing. back to the times, inmates get locked up to sell drugs. this is an extraordinary story and obviously there's a lot of reports going around about the state of british prisons, suffering from overcrowding and problems of people getting caught up in isis indoctrination and all that sort of thing. this is about prisoners causing minor breaches of their terms of release to bring drugs back in. you are released, you do something minor and you come back in for two weeks and we you you bring legal highs and other drugs. the howard league for penal reform are very concerned about this because it's creating a
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situation which is already very toxic in some prisons and making it worse by bringing these substances in. there will be some effort from the justice department to clamp down on this even though this is pretty systematic. the justice department said there would be more staff in prisons, whether that's taken off yet? there's a good case for that. particularly when the recent incidents here of inmates being sent backin incidents here of inmates being sent back in seems to be linked to february, 2015, when they have those out on day release being supervised, they had to make sure they would be checking in and supervised for these things. it was easier for them to break the terms of their release and get sent back in actually. it's an unintended consequence. let's go back to the telegraph again. pound coin chaos as shops defied deadline. there's been a six—month warning that the old circular coins are going to go in favour of these 12 sided coins. dodecahedron? iwill
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correct myself later. a 12 sided shape. but the shops are ready, we're not ready. we're looking forward to it. something very interesting for... looking forward to it, looking down the back of your sofa for these coins, there's 500 million old ones around and the problems are manifold they're saying because machines might not be there, supermarket trolleys are still accepting the old ones, they're not ready for this new era of 12 sided coins so it's fascinating and terrifying for officials because it will all be messy as britain gets used to these ones of a different shape. the invitation is you can imagine when you try and get your ticket for southern rail, instead the machines weren't accept your coins, you have to pay by card or bitcoin or something digital instead. people will be quite cross
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if they discover that they have quite a bit of these coins stashed away somewhere in a shoebox and they can't use them. this is why a lot of companies are saying they are still going to accept them beyond the deadline, i don't know how that will work practically if it's no longer legal tender. the federation for small business is on board with the idea of letting customers pave the way they want. the connotations about smooth transitional phase, a lot of brexit references to the kind of issues we may or may not have at some future point. the brexit metaphor always keeps giving. the daily mail as well, gender neutral sensors where we might not have to declare whether we are male or female. the idea that when the next census comes in 2021 you may not have to say if you are male or female and the 0ns is putting out an enquiry to say how do people feel about this? it's not definite. is
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for people who are non— binary or intersex to be more inclusive. —— it's poor. is a similar thing. it's the idea the political correctness culture war is going on —— it's for. the daily mail is a socially conservative paper, not entirely on board with the idea, but other people feel why not? most people will actually click male or female evenif will actually click male or female even if they don't have to. —— tick. feminists are saying this is erasing women as a gender and we do need these hard statistics. we do. the thing to bear in mind is the idea isn't compulsory wiping out what it means to be male or female gender as a whole concept, the idea is being optional. if you want to declare your gender, by all means, and 99% i imagine would, life would continue if such an idea was enacted but for
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those that want to hide it and not declare then they can be happier with that. all power to them. declare then they can be happier with that. all power to themm declare then they can be happier with that. all power to them. it is still a good, not for sure that it's going to happen. that's it for the papers tonight. don't forget, if you wa nt to papers tonight. don't forget, if you want to watch it again it's an iplayer. sebastien, mason, thanks for coming in. coming up next, the film review. hello and welcome to the film review on bbc news. to take us through this week's cinema releases is mark kermode. so, mark, what do we have this week? we have blade runner 2049, the eagerly awaited sequel to blade runner. the glass castle, starring brie larson.
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