this is bbc news, and these are the top stories developing at 11. sally—anne jones — the british woman who fought with so—called islamic state in syria — has reportedly been killed in a drone strike. the fifth round of brexit negotiations between the uk and the eu ends today, with no indication so far, of a breakthrough. this is the scene in brussels where the brexit secretary david davis and the eu chief negotiator michel barnier are due to hold a news conference following the talks — we'll bring you that live. up to 12 million households could soon see their energy bills capped, under new government proposals. hollywood producer, harvey weinstein may be stripped of his membership to the organisation behind the oscars after 13 women have alleged he sexually harrassed or assaulted them. also, a breakthrough deal between hamas and fatah palestinian militant group hamas says it has reached a deal to end its long rift with the rival faction to end a decade—long rift between the two factions.

and — the luxury fashion brand gucci will go fur—free from next year joining a growing number of fashion houses — amid pressure from animal rights activists. good morning. it's thursday 12th october. i'm annita mcveigh. welcome to bbc newsroom live. whitehall officials have refused to deny reports that a british woman, who travelled to syria to support the so—called islamic state group, has been killed in a drone strike. sally—annejones, formally a punk musician from kent, went to syria in 2013 and joined is. she became a high profile supporter and propagandist for the group, using social media to encourage western girls to join, and posted messages threatening britain online. a convert to islam, her british husband junaid hussain,

also an is militant, was killed by a drone in 2015. it's thoughtjones was killed by the us air force injune but her death has only been made public news now. in their set, but whatever you tell us in their set, but whatever you tell us about the death of sally—anne jones and her 12—year—old son and, any news about him? we have reports that both were killed injune, but that both were killed injune, but that has not been officially confirmed by pentagon or whitehall. pentagon has not confirmed she has been killed, and whitehall is not

public commenting. but it is assumed they are both dead. the difficulty with this is that at both stage this happened in territory held by so—called islamic state, so it is being impossible to retrieve the bodies and authenticate who they were. it is not entirely clear what has happened, but whitehall officials are suggesting privately to the bbc and others that she is in fa ct to the bbc and others that she is in fact dead and so is her son. there is some complication when it comes to her son, at the age of 12 legal protections would be in place that ensured that he cannot be targeted and can't be treated as a enemy combatant, he is too young. there is some confusion exactly about whether he can be targeted, it seems legally he can be targeted, it seems legally he cannot be. thank you.

the brexit secretary, david davis, and the eu's chief brexit negotiator, michel barnier, are expected to brief reporters shortly about the progress of talks on britain's departure from the european union. it's the fifth and final round of discussions the two men will hold before a crucial eu summit later this month, when leaders will decide whether to begin talks with the uk on a new trade deal. let's speak to our assistant political editor, norman smith, at westminster. any sign of suspicion progress to move on to those trade talks or any progress at all? i think the expectation is that not yet another progress has been made to move on. that seems to be the broad consensus. there are still huge difficulties over the divorce bill, how much money britain is prepared to pay. when you talk to government sources here, they will not put any

cash on the table and give a round number until later in negotiations, because that is written‘s key negotiating card. any other sticking point around eu nationals, theresa may sounds a lot more confident saying we are very, very close to an agreement on eu nationals. but that said, michel barnier sounded a lot more cautious, saying there is still to do with the role with the ecj, questions to about the rights of family members, whether they can join eu nationals living in the uk. questions to about repatriation and sending child benefit back to relatives in the eu. from michel barnier‘s point of view there still seems to be quite a few glitches when it comes to eu nationals. when you package all that together, the overwhelming consensus is that there has been some progress, but nowhere near enough progress to get the

go—ahead to move onto those crucial trade talks. if that is the case, if thatis trade talks. if that is the case, if that is what we hear from this news conference this morning, what is that going to mean for the eu's approach to these discussions, and what's an impact is it going to have ona what's an impact is it going to have on a very pressurised environment backin on a very pressurised environment back in westminster.” on a very pressurised environment back in westminster. i think it matters massively, because time is a critical matter in these negotiations. there is a growing view among tory negotiators that if we can't lift in the next stage in december, it is time for theresa may to walk away and go down the no deal route. because their view is that the eu would have had plenty of time to a cce pt the eu would have had plenty of time to accept out hands—on the divorce agreement and if they don't want to move agreement and if they don't want to m ove o nto agreement and if they don't want to move onto that is because they have no intention of on in giving theresa may the bespoke trade deal she wa nts. may the bespoke trade deal she wants. for them, we are reaching decision time. if no progress is

made at the next summit in december, they think we are in no deal land. more than that, even if the eu say, 0k, we can move to the second stage in december. the time schedule is still extraordinarily tight, because theresa may said in the commons yesterday, that she once all the negotiations to be wrapped up by march 2019, that means she wants the trade deal, hammered down and sorted out within the next 18 months. the two—year transition period is simple to fine tune arrangements, get the releva nt to fine tune arrangements, get the relevant it in place and recruit the necessary staff. it is not about further negotiations. trying to get a trade deal within 18 months all sorted out is within itself, hugely, hugely challenging. thank you. let's just show you the live shot from

brussels, let's see if we can get it back... let's try that again. yes, there it is, the live shot from brussels where we expect to see david davis and michel barnier to give that news conference shortly. the media already gathered there, we will be back in their life when it begins. energy prices for 12 million households should be capped as soon as possible, the government says. the draft energy bill will require the regulator, 0fgem, to place a temporary upper limit on standard variable tariffs, which can cost hundreds of pounds a year more than the cheapest deals. 12 million households across the uk are on these so—called svrs. they are the default deals offered by most energy companies, and even if you initially signed up to a cheaper fixed term deal, when that fixed term is over, you will usually end up on a standard variable tariff. the problem is that these tariffs tend to be around 25% more expensive

than the supplier's other deals. and despite several awareness campaigns, it's argued that not enough customers switch to cheaper deals. and that's why many think a cap is the only answer. there are a lot of people still with the big six, and they are on these fixed—price tariffs, and they are not being priced daily. they are making most of the money out of that, and in a way, you could argue subsidising some of the fixed tariffs. it is time to britain entered that by capping them to make sure that people get a fair deal. some price caps are already in place. those on pre—payment meters are protected by caps, and then yesterday, the regulator brought in temporary measures to extend a cap for vulnerable households. today, the government is expected to give the regulator extra powers to impose a wider cap on the bills of the 12—million households on standard variable tariffs. it reckons it could save them around £100 a year. some suppliers are already planning

to stop offering standard variable tariffs and experts think after today others will do the same. but the big question is what impact a cap will have on prices in the longer term, if companies have to change the way they try to make money. this morning, the business and energy secretary, greg clark, said the market needed to change to protect customers. what we are going to do is put a bill before parliament which will give off, the energy regulator, to put ina give off, the energy regulator, to put in a safeguard for energy consumers so put in a safeguard for energy consumers so they don't pay more than a reasonable level if they are on these tariffs that have been found to be very poor value for money. consumers are ready have the opportunity to switch to cheaper deals. isn't the danger that you end up deals. isn't the danger that you end up cutting the cost of gas for some

people and simply raising the price of those deals for people who have switched around. what was found, was that there are two mac market in effect. people have the opportunity to move to very competitive supplies, that is there and highly completed over. there is another pa rt completed over. there is another part of the market where the competition is very slow, in which the companies can and are overcharging customers. what we want to do is to give some protection to those customers while we drive competition through the whole market. but do people you know what energy plan they're signed up to? greg dawson went to find out. how much do you know, yourself, about what tariff you're on? i've no idea. and why is that? because i'm not allowed anywhere near the money in the house, the missus takes care of it. if i was to say to you the phrase standard variable tariff... ?

yes, i think i've got standard, yes, i've heard of that. do you know who supplies your gas and electricity? i do, yes, npower. you're more across it than other people! i do a lot of work actually for an energy company, so i like to feel i'm quite savvy. yes, i've recently switched, actually, to a different provider, so... so you're quite proactive in checking out that you've got the best deal? yeah, i'd say so. it's one of those things i look into and then it's changeable, it's so changeable, i suppose, would be the answer, that i have the kind of energy supplier that i've always had, and i kind of stick with that — unless it's a dramatic difference. i'm not particularly engaged with it. i do follow it in the press, that everything's going up and needs to be capped. this will probably prompt me to have a look when i get home, to be quite honest. the idea about the best deal is it might be the best deal today, but will it be the best deal tomorrow? will it be the best deal

the day after tomorrow? you can't spend your whole life looking for the best deals every day, because you've actually got to live your life. our business correspondent theo leggettjoins us now. it was quite illuminating listening to those snippets about people's views on the energy companies and who provide their power. 0ne views on the energy companies and who provide their power. one of the big questions in all of this, if these cats are introduced, will it bea game these cats are introduced, will it be a game changerfor these cats are introduced, will it be a game changer for consumers? will it prevent consumers, in the words of psalm, ripped off? the devil will be in the details, and what level the cap will be set at. we don't know that, and this will... they will then have to decide what e will have to be set at, we will have a figure and we will know at that point. it will mean some people will pay less, but there is the potential for some people to pay more. people who currently shop around find the

range of tariffs narrowed, because energy companies will be tempted to set a level closer to the cap. they will feel hard done by, because they are the ones who are proactive, rather than those who will sit on the same deal for however many yea rs. the same deal for however many years. some two thirds of consumers are on standard variable tariffs, which means they can pay £300 more a year than the cheapest deals. these people may then feel they are a bit protected, and have less incentive to shop around. that means there is less incentive for the energy companies themselves to offer better deals. there is a potential downside to this, but the government says the energy market as it is isn't working and they have to do something. whatley energy companies do if they have to change the way they make money. presumably they will look at new ways of making money from consumers. companies always look at new ways of making money from consumers. we don't know what ways they will be because we don't know what form this price cap will take.

it probably will not be in place for another year or so. the energy company themselves argue that there isa cap company themselves argue that there is a cap in some areas, but not across—the—board. there will be discussion, the legislation will still be introduced... thank you. the headlines on bbc newsroom live. sally—anne jones, the sally—annejones, the lady sally—anne jones, the lady that fought with so—called islamic state has beaten reportedly killed in a train strike. the fifth round of brexit negotiations between the uk and the eu and today with no indication of a breakthrough. plans to cap energy bills for 12 million households will be published by the government later. and in sport, british summing has apologised to 13 of its para athletes after finding et ,, coach was i .,

a 7, coach was i ., a 7, coat awasff' w w a - has fires 5 fij f fffjf f a - has figs éfori fij f fffjf f month. he has also apologised for a in which she appeared to video in which she appeared to imitate katie price's disabled son harvey. johanna konta has withdrawn with a foot problem. it was her last chance to get back into the top eight. i will be back with a full update in the next 15 minutes. let mejust remind you update in the next 15 minutes. let me just remind you that we are waiting on that news conference in brussels. it is from brexit secretary david davis and the eu chief negotiator michel barnier after what has been the fifth round of brexit discussions between them. you may remember that at the end of the fourth round of discussions, the

european commission chief jean—claude juncker said miracles would be needed if there is going to be progressed to move the trade discussions that the uk so badly wa nts discussions that the uk so badly wants at this point. but these were the last discussions before european leaders meet on the 19th of october and we are waiting to see just exactly how much progress has been made. initial indications suggest that it may not be enough to signal progress on today's trade talks. we will find out more when that news conference begins in brussels. newly qualified gps are to be offered a one—off payment of 20,000 pounds if they start their careers in areas that struggle to attract family doctors. the four million pound scheme aims to boost the numbers of doctors in rural and coastal parts of england, meanwhile a new report by the king's fund suggests there has been a "worrying" fall in the number of nhs nurses. here's our health editor hugh pym. with patient numbers rising, staff shortages and difficulties

filling rotas have created increasing problems across the nhs. today, plans to try to boost recruitment in some parts of the health service in england will be announced, but new research suggests there are major challenges finding some clinical staff. the number of places for doctors starting specialist training in emergency medicine will be increased from 300 a year to 400. the health secretaryjeremy hunt is to extend a scheme offering a one—off payment of £20,000 to encouraged trainee gps to work in areas where recruitment has been difficult. but a report by the king's fund think tank says the number of nurses and health visitors in england is falling for the first time since 2013, with the number down byjust over 1,000 in the year to june. the royal college of emergency medicine said the recruitment plans for a&e doctors were comprehensive proposals to secure a sustainable workforce. the royal college of gps said £2.11 billion a year extra promised for general practice in england must

be delivered in full. hugh pym, bbc news. 90 children are being taken into care every day in england and wales and it's claimed social workers are "firefighting" the most serious cases late into the night. the latest government figures show nearly 33,000 children were taken into care in 2017. the total number in care is a record 72,000, up 3% on 2016. council bosses, responsible for child protection services, say it's the biggest rise in seven years. the organisation behind the oscars is to consider taking action against the film producer, harvey weinstein, who's facing a series of accusations of sexual assault. the academy of motion pictures said it would discuss the allegations this weekend. mr weinstein says many of the claims that have been made are false. andrew plant reports. he was a hollywood hit—maker, with an oscar contender almost every year.

now harvey weinstein is under investigation and facing a flood of accusations. model and actress, cara delevingne, the latest. invited to a hotel room to discuss business, she said, instead forced to dodge his advances, and flee the room. the lists of actresses grows longer each day. some of hollywood's most famous, like angelina jolie and gwyneth paltrow, and the details repeat — hotel rooms, and massages, persuation, pressure and threats. 0thers go much further, recounting serious sexual assaults and accusations of rape. it's not at all easy to be the first one or two people who speak and now there's a sort of tsunami of sleeze coming out and all these other people are coming out of the wood works and saying these things but it's those first couple of women, who you really have to say, "thank god they did." he says he regrets his behaviour. his spokeswoman insisting that all sexual encounters were consensual. he's said to be receiving counselling in europe. back in america, his wife has left him. his membership of bafta, the uk's film body, has been suspended.

its american equivalent, the hosts of the oscars, have called an emergency meeting and he could be barred from the industry he has ruled for more than 20 years. meanwhile, police say they're investigating the allegations, finally shining a light into the shadows of the industry and what many believe has been an open secret in hollywood forfar too long. andrew plant, bbc news. a spokesman for the palestinian militant group hamas says it has reached a deal to end the long rift with its rival, fatah. the two sides have been holding talks in cairo. hamas took full control of gaza after violently ejecting fatah in 2007. the palestinian president, mahmud abbas, hasn't set set foot in gaza since, but a spokesperson from his fatah party says that could now change. translation:

i expect, god willing, after there are meetings at the end translation: of this month in cairo for all the factions and palestinian leadership, after that, god willing, within a month at the most, mahmud abbas will be in the gaza strip. people convicted of plotting acts of terror will face longer prison sentences, under proposed new guidelines. the sentencing council wants judges in england and wales to deal more harshly with offenders behind less sophisticated butjust as deadly terror plots seen recently. it says that minimum sentences should rise to between three and six years. here's our home affairs correspondent, dominic casciani. an unprecedented year of terrorist attacks. khalid masood killed five in the westminster attack in march. four on the bridge as he turned a car into a weapon. the fifth victim, pc keith palmer, stabbed as he tried to stop masood entering parliament. one of five major incidents this year, with police saying they've stopped at least six more. the severity of the threat

and the way it's been changing has led the sentencing council for england and wales to intervene. the council of senior judges and their advisers say terrorism suspects are moving more quickly to attack than ever before. they're turning everyday items, like cars and knives, into weapons. so it's recommending longerjail terms for those guilty of preparing acts of terrorism. we simply looked at the experience in this country in recent months and realised that the nature of the terrorist threat has undoubtedly changed in recent times. we felt it important to react to it and reflect this different type of offending. it's much more home—made than some of the terrorist schemes that we have had to deal with in the courts in the past. naweed ali, from birmingham, and two other men are already behind bars on life sentences. jailed this year, they hid weapons in a car, used encrypted communications to avoid detection, and indoctrinated each other. these proposals will apply most

to lesser figures in such plotting and those just beginning to plan an attack. the sentencing council says the risks are too great not to lock them up for longer. dominic casciani, bbc news. teams of riots chained officers have successfully resolved an incident at a high securityjail in worcestershire, according to the ministry ofjustice. dozens of inmates were reported to have attacked staff with pool balls in one wing of the prison overnight, which houses more than 600 offenders. a prison service spokesperson said there were no injuries to start all prisoners and that those responsible will be referred to the police and could have their sentences increased. ben, how long did it take to bring things

under control? let me tell you about the chronology. it all kicked off about 6:00pm the chronology. it all kicked off about 6: 00pm yesterday the chronology. it all kicked off about 6:00pm yesterday evening. prison officers came under attack from inmates. some were using pool balls as weapons, whether they were throwing them or wrapping them in fabric wejust throwing them or wrapping them in fabric we just don't know at the moment. at that time the prison officers retreated to a safe space within the jail, but effectively surrendering control of one wing, where around 80 inmates were in effect unsupervised. but the ministry ofjustice has said that there was no chance that any time they could get beyond the wing itself, it remains secure at all times. anyway, ten teams of these tornado units, prison officers with right equipment who have been trained in suppressing rights, were

brought in from various otherjails. they assemble at around 12:50am and order was restored at about 1:53am this morning. what happens now is that an investigation is being carried out internally by the jail, and there will also be a damage assessment to see what damage has been done. whether inmates had to be moved out of the wing to allow repairs to security systems or security systems —— sprinkler systems, the kind of things that can get damaged in these circumstances. thank you. planet earth is in the midst of a slow motion near miss with an asteroid. it goes by the name of 2012— tc format. at its

closest point, a couple of hours ago over antarctica, the asteroid was only 211,000 miles away, just outside the orbit of communication satellites. a global network of telescopes has been recording its passage to help test our early warning systems. four years ago an asteroid of a similar size, wasn't tracked by satellite and exploded over russia. time for the weather. nothing out of this world in the forecast today. after the heavy rain of yesterday, things are much improved for north—western parts of england. this is the city of lancashire a short time ago. blue skies and sunshine there, and as we go through the rest of the day for most of us, it will stay dry with sunshine. there are a few showers across the north and west of scotland, they will be confined to

scotla nd scotland, they will be confined to scotland this afternoon. a bit of rain will move into northern ireland, but elsewhere it is dry and bright, a fine afternoon really with temperatures around 18. through this afternoon the rain will gather across scotland, particularly heavy across scotland, particularly heavy across western scotland, northern ireland, north—west england and wales. a mild night compared to last night. temperatures in double figures. the rain can be particularly heavy at times on friday, strong winds. cumbria is one area of concern with yesterday's rainfall and tomorrow's expected rainfall and tomorrow's expected rainfall could cause problems. largely dry and bright in the south—east and feeling warm. let's go straight to brussels where david davis and michel barnier are starting a news conference. good afternoon to all of you, he we are again, the same two people.

i will switch to french. translation: theresa may's speech gave momentum to these negotiations which needed it. this week we worked ina which needed it. this week we worked in a constructive spirit and we clarified certain points without however making any great steps forward. we still have a common goal, we are determined to reach an agreement on the withdrawal of the uk, and orderly withdrawal. and we wish to outline together the framework of our future relationship. when the time comes.

and that, on behalf of the union, is what president donald tusk said three days ago very clearly. that is the perspective for these negotiations. we share the same objectives. we wa nt we want to protect the rights of all citizens affected by the withdrawal and observe the peace process in northern ireland and cooperation on the island issue, and honour all 28 the island issue, and honour all 28 the commitments entered into by the 28. on the union side, we want to achieve very specifically these three objectives. that is the condition for the discussions as

soon as possible on the new partnership, ambitious and lasting partnership, ambitious and lasting partnership with the united kingdom and european union. how far have we got after this fifth round? how far have we got on each of the main subjects? first of all. citizens' rights. that this error priority. on the subject, we have got the withdrawal agreement, that is essential to guarantee any lasting rights of all citizens. secondly, the interpretation has to be genuinely consistent between the union and the united kingdom. on these two points, we are continuing to work on the specific instruments

which would give practical effect to this. that implies as you know, the european court of justice. this. that implies as you know, the european court ofjustice. now there are still disagreements on the other hand, about family relocation and the export of social security benefits after brexit. these things that want. for example, let me illustrate the point i have just made. it is important for any citizen residing in the united kingdom to be able in 10—15 years' time to bring his parents where he is living, just as would be the case for british citizens in the union.

similarly, those who spent many yea rs similarly, those who spent many years working in the united kingdom should be able to return, with disability payments under the same conditions as british citizens living in the union. and finally, i come to an important point. the united kingdom has informed us of its intention to introducing the simplified procedure, enabling the citizens to enforce rights. we will study carefully the practical details of this procedure. i really believe it has to be simple for citizens. on ireland... this week we advanced on the joint principles, the continuation of the common travel area and i welcome this. we continued our intensive work on

mapping out areas of cooperation that operate on a north south basis on the island of ireland. we have got more work to do, in order to build a full picture of the challenges of north south cooperation, as a result of the united kingdom leaving the european union framework. this is necessary in order to identify the solutions. this week we agreed that the six principles proposed by the european union in september would guide our work, protecting the good friday agreement and all stone mentions. —— in all of its. that is an important amendment. this

week, however, the united kingdom repeated that it was still not ready to spill out these agreements. no negotiations on the subject. we have confined ourselves to technical discussions, useful discussions but technical discussions. on this question, we have reached a state deadlock, disturbing for many project promoters in europe, and also the stumping for taxpayers. ladies and gentlemen, i have set out

the stocktacking of our work on the three main subjects. on this basis, iam not three main subjects. on this basis, i am not able in these current circumstances to propose next week to the european council that we should start discussions on the future relationship. i repeat that the future relationship has to be robust, ambitious, and lasting. and that requires confidence between us. that confidence will flow from clarity and the honouring of all the commitments that we have entered into as the 28. before i conclude, i wa nt to into as the 28. before i conclude, i want to make one comment. at one of the last press conferences, one of you asked me when the european union would be ready finally to make concessions. we are not asking the

british to make concessions. the agreement we are working on would not be built on concessions. no question of making concessions one citizen rights, no question on meeting concessions on the peace process for northern ireland. and as regards the financial settlement, no question of making concessions on thousands of european investment projects. think of all the men and women who have trained. these are complex negotiations. we have got shared objectives and shared obligations. we also have shared duties. and we will succeed only with shared solutions. that is our responsibility. to conclude, i have been saying this ever since the

florence speech. there is a new momentum and i remain convinced today that with will political, decisive progress is within our grasp in the next two months. and along with david davis, we have agreed on various meetings between now and the end of the year. my responsibility as a negotiator on behalf of the future of the european union, and with the confidence of jean claude juncker, i union, and with the confidence of jean claudejuncker, i am looking at the ways of meeting this process comply strictly with the conditions laid down by the european council on april 29. we did that unanimously. that is my mandate. and i will abide by that mandate. and i will be

working in close conjunction with the european parliament, which adopted the resolution by a huge majority on two occasions. that is what i intend to see next week at the european council. thank you for your attention. at the last round of talks, we spoke about a renewed dynamic. michel has written to that. negotiating team subbing working constructively in a professional and determined manner this week. developed as michel said, and increased sense of shared political objectives. much work to be done, but we have come a long way. it is important to recognise the significant progress we have made since june. let me take these issues on turn. citizen rights, the greatest possible legal certainty about the future. the legal orders will be distinctively different, so

this week we explored ways of making sure that the rights we explore now will be enforced in a fair and legal way. gavin confidence for those rights to be upheld. also fulfilling the prime minister's commitment to the prime minister's commitment to the withdrawal commitment, citizens able to enforce those rights in uk courts. and we discussed ways of the consistent interpretation of the law that underpin the agreement. when we have not yet arrived at a single model that achieves this, we hope to soon. we have also not yet arrived at the solution, and michel mentioned a few of them, to bring in future family members, exporting benefits, enjoy the recognition of professional qualifications and vote

in local elections and move in the 27 and leave for a prolonged periods but enjoy the right to remain. these issues are not easy but we have approached them with shared spirit, trying to find solutions and both of the teams are going to reflect further. we are taking a pragmatic approach. as demonstrated why the guaranteed right of return for settled citizens in the native kingdom, as well as the european union. we look forward to the response to this. i want to highlight one particular productive area of talks this week. i recognise there has been some anxiety about european union citizen rights for certain status in the united kingdom. we want to reassure those european citizens in britain that those rights will be shrined in

british law. the process will be completely new, low cost, streamlined, and in addition to that any european union citizens already in possession of one of these polar residence card, we will exchange that settled status. not going to have to go through the full process again. to reassure those affected, the taste associated with those processes will be set out in the withdrawal agreement. we will make sure that citizen rights are reviewed, quite accessible and fair. i will sit out a position on insuring citizen rights in a statement for the commission, written statement, that they can share with the 27. as a result of these discussions, we can offer somewhat discussions for those in the european union. we are confident

that the rights of citizens will continue to be accessible in the most straightforward way possible. in summaryl most straightforward way possible. in summary i think this week of talks has brought us even closer to a deal but gets citizen rights to the legal certainty they deserve. i welcome the advances that we have made on northern ireland and ireland. this week we developed a joint principal, on the continuation of the common travel area. we have also mapped out areas of cooperation on the north south basis. as was said we have more work to do, to ove rco m e said we have more work to do, to overcome the north and south cooperation once united has left the european union. but i am pleased to say we have made progress. based on political guidelines, we will start with you on a common understanding on possible commitments and undertakings, necessarily to protect the good friday agreement and oliver

stone mentions. we are determined to tackle the unique circumstances of northern ireland by 4% on specific solutions and we have begun to do so. as the prime minister said to parliament this week. we owe it to everybody in ireland to get it right. on the financial settlement, we continue in the spirit of the florence speech, we have undertaken a rigorous examination of the technical details when we need to a shared view. reach this is not a process for specific commitments, this can only come with. it is an important step so when the time comes, we can reach a political agreement quickly and simply. on separation issues, we continue to work on the detail on a range of issues, good progress relating purely to the withdrawal, and we believe these issues are dependent on discussions to the relationship.

we are ready and well—prepared to start those discussions. so... the objective is to provide as much certainty as possible to business, citizens and the european union. we are making tangible progress. i make no secret of the fact that to provide certainty we must talk about the future. the prime minister's speech set out ambition for the partnership in the european union and also we doubt the case for a simple, clear period of implementation on the current terms. i hope that the leaders of the 27 will provide ways to explore this going forward. and building on the spirit of cooperation that we have. i have always been clear that we would enter those negotiations in a constructive way. the work of our teams and the substantial progress being made proves that we are doing just that. as we look to the global european council next week i hope

that the member states will recognise the progress that we have made, and look forward into spirit of the prime minister's florence speech. turn ideas into concrete proposals. moving forward to the deal that works for both the european union and united kingdom. thank you. financial times. european union and united kingdom. thank you. financialtimes. david davis. you said before that the big prize is the future relationship. but the brinksmanship is clearly reaching quite a high level now. high wire act. risks of no deal, rising. what are you holding out for, what are you dealing by holding out, and should you be spending

money now, on a no deal scenario? as the chancellor not being gloomy enough on the prospects no deal? of and michel barnier, you hinted that discussing the transition will be aware to find a landing zone potentially on divorce issues. should you not be doing that at an early stage, exploring those issues to bring these talks, give these talks more momentum than at the moment? why is that impossible at this point? what are we aiming for? that is what i have been outlining so far. the good, mutually beneficial deal overall. as simple as that. as for the preparation, clearly, this negotiating process is aimed at getting a good deal for both sides. that is the big prize that we are aiming for. if that is

not possible, the government has to be ready for alternatives. the prime minister said yesterday the united kingdom is planning for all outcomes. not what we seek but planning for everything. it is the duty of the government to plan for all scenarios, however improbable. when money needs to be spent, it will be spent. we have allocated £250 million, to allocate the work. and if we need more, it will be done appropriately. michel... the first point. the risk of no deal... no deal would be a very bad deal. to be clear... on our side, we are

ready to face any eventualities. and all eventualities. i recall the mandate i received from the 27 member states. the unanimous mandate, and my job the 27 member states. the unanimous mandate, and myjob is to state that mandate. take due account of resolutions adopted by the european parliament. i have a responsibility asa parliament. i have a responsibility as a negotiator to find a way forward. let me be absolutely clear and frank with you. i said earlier about all these subjects are linked together with the member states. the orderly withdrawal, the need to settle the accounts, we are in a

position of deadlock at the moment. but as i said, with the necessary will and on the basis of the commitments entered into, we can get away out of this deadlock. times of london. miss davis. germany and other countries want the promise to honour commitments on budget liabilities among other things, to be put on paper. written guarantees before any transition talks. have you done that and given now the technicians are looking at the odd billion here, there, when will you? if not, why? michel barnier, david davis as city is looking forward to your response the guaranteed right of return for european nationals,

subject to the free movement for the united kingdom nationals. he has not heard that response yet. have you accepted that offer on the particular part of the dossier, or is the too restrictive to be able to do that? are you again going to be asking tomorrow for the looser mandate, enabling you to do the scoping exercise — technical term — own transition arrangements before meeting the threshold? we are not doing the negotiating here on this podium. i will not be going to that aspect. i am podium. i will not be going to that aspect. lam not podium. i will not be going to that aspect. i am not aware of any german government proposals. i have already explained in some detail what we are doing. on the question of freedom of movement by the european union, and

british citizens after brexit, you implied that the mandate was to restrictive. no. it is precise. to make a success of the negotiations we have got to do things in the correct order. that is a condition of success. if we mix everything up, there are risks. i have said this several times and i repeated again. to succeed, i want things to be taken in the correct order. in this pa rt taken in the correct order. in this part of the negotiations, first part, dealing with subjects to do with citizens, rights up to the date of brexit and dealing with life choices made by citizens, up to the date of brexit. european citizens

and british citizens. i come to your question. it remains on the table, let me be clear about that. it has to do with life choices which will be made by citizens after brexit. but christian, i repeat, remains on the table. we are willing to discuss that at the appropriate time. time that at the appropriate time. time that has not yet, from. it is not pa rt that has not yet, from. it is not part of the first stage of negotiations. hello. yes. thank you very much. sky news. david davis. if we go back to the first principles, you have consistently talked about progress over the past five weeks. you do not appear to have got much progress at all. the public led to believe this would be a relatively

easy negotiation, the european union would behave differently, desperate to do trade deals. it does not seem to do trade deals. it does not seem to be the case. we have seen businesses in the united kingdom and on the continent beginning to enact contingency plans. citizens across the continent continue to have no idea about the future. it looks very much as though britain is losing this one. and four michel barnier, you talk about the fact that nobody needs to make concessions. that does not sound like much of a negotiation. one key concession on your part would be to loosen the mandate, allowing things to flow more smoothly. thank you.|j mandate, allowing things to flow more smoothly. thank you. i do not recognise some of the circumstances you have described. there we are. the position we are in now is defined by the council's criteria

for progress. the next step, the european council in october. we would like them to give michel the means to broaden the negotiation. it is up to them. i think it is an interest of the united kingdom and europe they do. michel... you mentioned the eu's position on the free trade agreement. i think there isa free trade agreement. i think there is a real will on the european union side to build a strong and lasting relationship with the united kingdom. both with this and many other areas. the present government of the united kingdom has chosen to implement the exit of the united kingdom from the european union but also the exit from the single market and the customs union. when the time

comes, we will talk about the free trade agreement and we will be ready to do that post respecting the full integrity of the single market. and the european union's decision—making autonomy. we will do that as soon as possible. but as soon as possible means once we have overcome the first stage. that has got nothing to do with the future relationship. sorting out the conditions for the orderly withdrawal. my mandate... it looks ahead to these different stages, slowly but surely over the next few weeks i will exploring the way forward if there is the necessary will. exploring ways of

getting out of this deadlock we find ourselves in on financial issues, for progress at the next meeting. we are not at that stage now. bbc news. you have both chosen to accentuate the positive when you can but it is obvious that the hope and expectation was that progress would have moved a lot further by now. especially given the two—year article 50 timetable. businesses are worried, citizens are worried. pupils pride yourselves on being good negotiators, what are you doing thatis good negotiators, what are you doing that is so badly wrong? do you want to start with this one? laughter. that is so badly wrong? do you want to start with this one? laughteri am willing to repeat folder fourth

time what i have said since the beginning of this conference. we have to be able to note that other sufficient progress on citizen rights, and that is the priority. we have made a lot of progress but we have made a lot of progress but we have not yet made the necessary progress and i repeat, no question making concessions on either side. we have defined legal and statutory arrangements, legal orders, we need to guarantee these rights. i do not like the word concessions, with regard to citizen rights. were going to say goodbye to viewers on bbc two. but on the bbc news channel, we will continue to watch this conference from brussels. as i said,

translation: so we can move swiftly on other matters. when you are going through those points of negotiation, there are a couple of points to bear in mind, what is mutually beneficial to both sides. secondly, where the end result is going to land. not the individual stages. but in terms of where we are now, is the october european council. which is why i have said, over and over again, european council. which is why i have said, overand overagain, to give michel barnier the missing is

“ means give michel barnier the missing is —— means to give michel barnier the missing is “ means to progress. give michel barnier the missing is -- means to progress. secretary of state, you talk a lot about the future relationship, but you have thrown on the table at the outset that you don't want to be part of the single market or in the customs union. one of the major achievements of the conservative government of the year has been the good friday agreement. many of the articles in that agreement are predicated on being part of the single market. so how are you going to overcome that given what we know about what you expect from the future relationship, and also people have asked about the benefits, you have said is that you don't see people or companies been concerned. i would ask you, theresa may publish the beginnings of an industrial strategy for the uk, can you name one company in one sector identified in that strategy that sees brexit as anything other than a

huge challenge? thank you. let medial first off with the good friday agreement, of course it is based on issues that were current at the time. that is one of the reasons that we can't resolve all of the issues yet because until we know exactly what the final customs and market access arrangements are. but when we do we are convinced that we can geta when we do we are convinced that we can get a solution that retains and underpins the good friday and belfast agreement. that is common to both sides of this and we will move heaven and earth to protect it. i think it is eminently possible. in broader terms, about the long—term industrial strategy, clearly one of the things it will do is it will seek to make the most of its global

trading arrangements. the eu itself has said that 90% of world growth will come from outside the union and thatis will come from outside the union and that is what we are aiming at. translation: i don't really want to add to what i said earlier about ireland, it is clear that the situation in ireland is a unique situation in ireland is a unique situation as the uk has recognised. once we have made a common reading of the conditions, the elements and the consequences of the good friday agreement and the common travel area, we then, on that basis find

specific solutions for this specific situation. these solutions would not constitute a precedent for other situations. that is all for today. thank you. suddenly it is over after a number of questions taken from the media. that news conference with david davis come the britvic secretary, and michelle barnier, the eu chief negotiator —— brexit secretary. after the fifth round of negotiations. people are picking out from those comments about deadlock from those comments about deadlock from michel barnier, saying that on theissue from michel barnier, saying that on the issue of the brexit bill, the bill that the eu would like the uk to pay for leaving the eu, he said

that was at a point of deadlock. he also said there was no question of concessions on citizens' right, the issue of the border in ireland, he also said we're not asking the british to make concessions either. let's get a take on that with our assistant medical editor norman smith who has been listening from the westminster perspective. —— political editor. on that point of not making any concessions and not asking the british were concessions either, what did you make of that?” thought we had half factored in that michel barnier wasn't going to give the go—ahead for the next age of talks today, but i think most people will have been struck by the language, the tone, the sense that these are not two sides moving closer together, if anything slightly the reverse. i was struck, not by michel barnier saying there was a deadlock over money, they

didn't get to the details of discussing money. but there seems to be almost no progress, as far as i can see, on eu nationals. michel barnier thing again that the eu wa nted barnier thing again that the eu wanted movement on the ecj, family members on being able tojoin nationals in the uk. there was movement on a clearer administrative process for acquiring settled status, but that seemed to be pretty much. when you listen to michel barnier saying we don't have to make concessions, this is an issue of confidence and clarity. we need confidence and clarity. we need confidence and clarity from the british government, and i take that asa british government, and i take that as a clear reference to the infighting we have seen in the cabinet and the disagreements there. and saying we, the eu, we are prepared for all eventualities, if there is no deal, fine, we are ready for that. i thought it was quite a belligerent approach from michel barnier that does not lead you

believe, although he said with goodwill we can make progress in the next two months. it didn't really seem to me there was much evidence of that based on what has happened in the last five weeks. you get the sense we are now in a very, very delicate stage of the negotiations if we are to move forward by the end of the year. i think both men did try to at least inject a little bit of optimism in their words. stay with us as we listen to a clip from michel barnier on that point. translation: in her florence speech theresa may explains that the uk would honour the commitments entered into as a member of the union. and thatis into as a member of the union. and that is an important commitment. however this week the uk repeated that it however this week the uk repeated thatitis however this week the uk repeated that it is still not ready to spell out these commitments. there have

been no negotiations on this subject. we can find a self —— confined ourselves to useful discussions but technical discussions. we have reached a state of deadlock which is very disturbing for thousands of project promoters in europe and it is also concerning for taxpayers. despite that, michel barnier saying that with the political will, decisive progress is within our grasp in the next two months. that is a pretty tight time frame, what do you think is going to need to happen for that to come to pass? and is it a case of the uk almost trying to reach out to the other eu leaders and saying, try to urge michel barnier to give him a little bit more scope to talk about a possible trade deal?” little bit more scope to talk about a possible trade deal? i think that

is absolutely what the british government pope is. although michel barnier doesn't believe that enough progress has been made and seems to be of the view that there is an awful lot still to do. the other 27 leaders say let's move the trade talks. so far, there has been absolutely no sign that figures like angela merkel, or emmanuel macron are the least bit inclined to overrule michel barnier. and david davis acknowledge that there are points of tension, and we have now reached one. the real issue here is that the clock is ticking. for many tory brexiteers they take the view that there is no progress by december, that is it, time to walk a away, no deal. we're getting to the cusp of these negotiations when many are westminster believe the british garment will have to walk away. albeit, i'd —— british government.

david davis tried to soften things a bit surprised by ups and downs. have a listen to this. our aim is to provide as much certainty to business. on this we are making real and tangible progress. but i make no secret of the fact that to provide certainty we must talk about the future. the prime minister's speech set out the scale of her ambition for the scale of our pit —— partnership in the eu. and also laid out a clear timescale for implementation on clear terms. as i said last time, i hope the leaders of the 27 will provide means to explore forward with this on that.” suspect that the real key to unlocking this is money, frankly. it's clear that the eu want specific commitments when it comes to cash on

the table, that britain is prepared to pay. so far theresa may has simply intimated that we will... that you want more than that, in terms of ongoing commitments, pension liabilities, other projects andi pension liabilities, other projects and i think they want the british government to be specific. from theresa may point of view which she doesn't want that yet. it is our one ca rd doesn't want that yet. it is our one card and we do not want to play it until we know what we will get in return in terms of a trade deal. we are ina return in terms of a trade deal. we are in a eyeball to eyeball stand—off situation, it is bringing ship and high wire. the risk is that if neither side blinks we will tumble into no man's land. —— rigs and ship. let's go back to brussels. norman was suggesting that the key

to all of this was money. what do you get the sense in there that the actual decisive progress that michel barnier was referring to in that news conference, that that might actually come from pressure from eu leaders. you just caught me texting some of my eu diplomatic sources to find out! the focus is really on the eu summit of the remaining 27 leaders at the end of next week. it all comes out to the instructions that they have given michel barnier, and the instructions they will give. if michel barnier is to discuss a future trade deal, it needs to be given the instructions by his political masters to do so. the mandate he has now is to discuss brexit relation withdrawal issues of citizens rights, money and northern ireland. that is where they need sufficient progress. david davis was basically making a plea to those 27

leaders that they need to take at face value that the uk wants a deal, but they have been negotiating in good faith and it is time to give michel barnier the green light to talk about the future, both in the medium term and the long—term. i was really struck when michel barnier started his presentation that it sounded really, really grim. he used words like deadlock and listed all the disagreements. but right at the he said that with the political will, progress could be made in time for the eu summit after this one on the 14th of december. thank you. let's talk to ben thompson about how the markets have reacted, i think there has been a fall in sterling ben? we can't call this a tumble by any ben? we can't call this a tumble by a ny stretch ben? we can't call this a tumble by any stretch of the imagination. but business is looking for two things, they want to know what happens to eu workers and rights to workers for eu

workers and rights to workers for eu workers to come here because they can offer such a large proportion of the economy. we'll laced be able to work a? but also access to any trade deal. will we still be in the single market and have trade deals that are currently in place? no clarity on any of that in those negotiations thatis any of that in those negotiations that is why we have seen volatility and uncertainty. the pound has fallen against the dollar. that is good news and bad news, it depends what sort of business you wire. it makes imports more expensive and we have seen that since the brexit vote, things like inflation and the price of goods that we pay in the shops will continue to rise if they are imported. but, as a business, if you export overseas it makes your products more attractive. that is a fluctuation. we have seen the ftse 100 rise to a new high, as a direct result of the fall in the value of the sterling. it makes those earnings look more attractive. not a

slump by any stretch, but volatility will continue until we have certainty. thank you for that update. energy prices for 12 million households should be capped as soon as possible, the government says. the draft energy bill will require the regulator, 0fgem, to place a temporary upper limit on standard variable tariffs, which can cost hundreds of pounds a year more than the cheapest deals. 12 million households across the uk are on these so—called svrs. they are the default deals offered by most energy companies, and even if you initially signed up to a cheaper fixed term deal, when that fixed term is over, you will usually end up on a standard variable tariff. the problem is that these tariffs tend to be around 25% more expensive than the supplier's other deals. and despite several awareness campaigns, it's argued that not enough customers switch to cheaper deals. and that's why many think a cap is the only answer. there are a lot of people still with the big six, and they are on these expensive

tariffs, and they are not being priced fairly. they are making most of the money out of that, and in a way, you could argue subsidising some of the fixed tariffs. it is time to britain entered that by capping them to make sure that people get a fair deal. some price caps are already in place. those on pre—payment meters are protected by caps, and then yesterday, the regulator brought in temporary measures to extend a cap for vulnerable households. today, the government is expected to give the regulator extra powers to impose a wider cap on the bills of the 12—million households on standard variable tariffs. it reckons it could save them around £100 a year. some suppliers are already planning to stop offering standard variable tariffs and experts think after today others will do the same. but the big question is what impact a cap will have

on prices in the longer term, if companies have to change the way they try to make money. joining me now from central london is the independent energy consultant ann robinson do you expect they will be looking at other ways to make money from consumers? of course they will, they a lwa ys consumers? of course they will, they always do. but having said that, what we have seen in the last few yea rs what we have seen in the last few years is that the market has been working because there have been a lot of new, small suppliers on the market. they have been offering cracking deals and that is kept competition up at around 15%. but i think the important thing to remember here is that we have seen competition at around 15% frill on time now. we have had competition for 20 years and it is leaving a lot

of this behind. some balancing is right and of this behind. some balancing is rightandi of this behind. some balancing is right and i think what the future is looking like is that we will have a mixed approach where competition still goes on, and there are still incentives to engage, but the rest of us, for one reason of another don't feel we can get involved in competition, are offered additional protection forfair competition, are offered additional protection for fair prices. let me be clear on this particular question. you say some rebalancing is necessary but you think this cap could be counter—productive in reducing competition?” could be counter—productive in reducing competition? i don't think the cap will reduce competition at all. i think there is enough scope for competition to continue. i think the important thing is that there area the important thing is that there are a lot of measures being put in place to help being taken in the market. i am expecting things like, for example, a new simpler bill to be produced before too long. all these things will help engagement.

alongside this, this will mean that the market will continue to have some measure of competition, and i do not believe it will force up prices at all. you want this cap to be indexed to the cheapest fixed deal, tell us your thoughts on how that would work? i did want to be indexed to the cheapest fixed deal. but i have started to change my mind on that. for example, a company that had a fix deal was not allowed to have one of these expensive tariffs that was more than 10% more expensive than that cheapest fixed deal. i think that it is possible under the arrangements for the energy companies to mess around with that and what they, in quotes, jane, in other words they mess around with a fixed tariff and the rest of it, so it wouldn't touch the spot. that is why i am coming around to thinking that probably the best way forward is an absolute cap so no one can mess around with it. it is

there, specified and clear, and we all know what fair pricing really means. thank you. it is time for a look at sport. british swimming has apologised to some of its paralympic athlete after the former head coach created a climate of fear. an independent investigation into claims of bullying from 13 paris swimmers found that an unnamed member of staff, thought to be the former head coach rob greenwood, had been communicating in a abusive manager and using derogatory terms. he who won an award after the 47 medals last year, won an award after the 47 medals last yea r, left won an award after the 47 medals last year, left his post at the start of the year and when contacted by the bbc declined to comment.

another senior figure investigated was found to have management and communication issues but left in post. it is right and proper that we investigate, because they have been subjected to attitudes and behaviour that i, and british swimming consider unacceptable. a climate of fear you stay in your statement? yes and these are not acceptable to us. johanna konta looks set to miss the finals in singapore after withdrawing from next week ‘s kremlin cup after withdrawing from a foot injury. she had to win to qualify automatically, she could be on stand—by though. she had held that final qualifying spot, but a poor run of form and now this injury means that she can't break back into the top eight. it has been a disappointing end, i think she lost a great deal of confidence by suffering a couple of defeats. she

was not able to get herself out of that losing spiral and has lost five ina that losing spiral and has lost five in a row. she has this left foot problem, not a long—term problem in my understanding. but she needs to get it sorted and at the moment doesn't feel she is on the right shape to play next week. she had to play very well there and make the final to have a chance of qualifying to make this lucrative end of season championships in singapore. the england all—rounder ben stokes has believed what to be a £200,000 sponsorship deal with a sportswear company terminated. sticks placed on the ashes tour is in doubt this winter after his arrest outside a bristol nightclub last month. —— ben stokes. you will play no part in that tour while the police investigation continues. yesterday he apologised to the tv celebrity katie price and her disabled son

harvey after he was videoed impersonating them. that is all the sport. i will be back after the one o'clock news, around 1:30pm. teams of riot trained officers has successfully controlled an incident in worcestershire according to the department ofjustice. dozens were reported to attack start with pool balls in one wing of the night which houses more than 600 offenders. a spokesperson said is there was no injuries to start or prisoners and those responsible will be referred to the police and could have their sentences increased. our correspondent is outside the prison, how long did it take to bring it under control? the chronology works out like this. the riot started at around 6:00pm yesterday evening, when around 80 inmates started throwing pool balls and attacking

prison officers who retreated to a safe s pa ce prison officers who retreated to a safe space inside the jail. at that point the tornado riot control team of specially trained prison officers we re of specially trained prison officers were summoned from otherjails. they we re were summoned from otherjails. they were assembled here by about 12:50am and control was restored by 1:53am, just over an hour later. nobody was hurt in this according to the ministry ofjustice, and at no time was there any risk that any of these inmates could get out of the wing that they were in and the trouble spread to other parts of the jail or even outside the jail. however, for such a problem to take place here, at eight maximum security category letter a jail, full of offenders, two thirds of whom are serving life sentences, very serious offences, will certainly be something taken very seriously. the prisons minister

has said that investigation is being carried out by the prison into what went wrong. thank you. whitehall officials have refused to deny reports that a british woman, who travelled to syria to support the so—called islamic state group, has been killed in a drone strike. sally—annejones, formally a punk musician from kent, went to syria in 2013 and joined is. she became a high profile supporter and propagandist for the group, using social media to encourage western girls to join, and posted messages threatening britain online. a convert to islam, her british husband junaid hussain, also an is militant, was killed by a drone in 2015. it's thoughtjones was killed by the us air force injune but her death has only been made public news now. joining us now is our correspondent richard lister. what more do we know about the

circumstances of her death and the fate of her 12—year—old son whom she brought to syria with her? the assumption is but not confirmed, that the 12—year—old son was also killed in this drone strike can join carried out by the us air force. i must stress that this has not been publicly confirmed by the pentagon in the us or government officials here. when first asked about reports in the sun this morning, whitehall refused to deny that sally—anne jones had been killed, that no one is saying publicly, definitively, that she has. part of this confusion is down to the difficulty in confirming, directly, that she was actually hit and killed in this drone strike. clearly the strike would have been held on territory held by so—called islamic state and it is difficult to get somebody in to retrieve the body and carry out formal confirmation that it was her. and q. -- thank

formal confirmation that it was her. and q. —— thank you. luxury fashion brand gucci will go fur—free from next year. the compa ny‘s chief executive, marco bizzarri, said the move was part of a commitment to "sustainability". campaigners hailed the move as a "huge game—changer", but a fur trade body said the decision made "no sense". we can speak to mark oaten, ceo of the international fur federation, an organisation that represents the international fur industry, and mark glover, the director of respect for animals, an organisation that campaigns against the international fur trade. thank you both forjoining me here on bbc. first of all, mark, you are saying this decision by gucci makes no sense, why not? they talk about sustainability and protecting the environment. but one thing i am absolutely sure of, that the most naturalfashion products is further. it comes from a natural product,

last decade and is biodegradable. many of the other fashion items that gucci and others use, are full of petrol and end up in landfill sites. the environmental argument does not stack up. i am very disappointed from this announcement from gucci, it makes no sense. are you concerned about their reasons for doing it so long as they do it? of course we are absolutely thrilled that they have joined the very large number of fashion designers and high street retailers that have taken that decision to turn their back on her. they have actually said that it was a socially responsible act and i think that is correct. the vast majority of people in this country has rejected wearing fur. they are proposed and turn their back on it,

and so does gucci. you may be questioning the explanation that gucci is giving for making this decision, but do you accept that ultimately it is a response to a growing number of people thinking it is simply an ethical to wear fur or to have fur products? the figures don't actually... you look at what is happening at the moment. 60% of capital itself full of fur. more and more designers are using it. and more designers are using it. and more importantly, consumers, many of them young, i am bracing and wearing fur. that gucci is a huge fashion house isn't it? and there are many others as well that are staying with fur. this is about choice, people have the right to make up their own mind. unlike the organisations that wa nt to mind. unlike the organisations that want to seem to ban absolutely everything. i say, want to seem to ban absolutely everything. isay, let's want to seem to ban absolutely everything. i say, let's have an industry that is full of high

standards and let consumers make up their own mind about buying fur or not. i'm confident that they operate to high ethical standards, have a great sustainable methods, and will be sustainable for many years to come. you say your organisation doesn't want people to have choice? not on buying fur. we think the selling of fur should be illegal. we have banned the main methods of production in this country, and it is hypocritical to allow the sale of real fur to persist. but your other guest claims it is possible because fashion models and designers use it. i'm afraid that they have succumbed to the power of money as have your other guest, when he was in and the —— mpe supported a lot of things back then, but it seems he has changed his tune for some reason. you are saying, that a large number

of big fashion houses will continue, are continuing to use fur. in terms of gucci specifically as an influence, how much difference does this going to make to the number of animals that are being trapped and killed or bred in captivity for their fur? think it is there are important milestone. it is only a matter of time before they see the truth, realise there are more important things than money. the suffering of hundreds of thousands of animals, morally bankrupt. do you think it is a matter of time before these other fashion houses follow gucci?” a matter of time before these other fashion houses follow gucci? i do not. we have had independent

inspections taking place. working with them on traceability, giving confidence. but this is our business worth over 30 billion dollars. it is a strong business and it is going to continue to do so because people wa nt continue to do so because people want that right to make the choice themselves, not being dictated to by animal activists groups. thank you to you both. time for the weather. it is just after it isjust after 12:30. it is just after 12:30. hi it isjust after 12:30. hi phil. good afternoon. i am not going to rub it in if i say we have sunshine at the heart of london. it is that we for most of you. not exactly wall to wall. what much improved from just do. cloud on west of scotland

andi just do. cloud on west of scotland and i think that cloud will have threatened across northern ireland, scotland, and cumbria again. some rainfall here. south, dry night in prospect. not cold. because of that cloud and breeze from the south west. could be a gale at northern scotland. again, bright skies behind. further east, drier, warmer. 20,21. behind. further east, drier, warmer. 20, 21. and having got down to the heart of the british isles, if you are spending the weekend to the south of that particular feature it is going to be a warm one. the temperature could comfortably exceed 20. this is bbc newsroom live.

our latest headlines: the european union's chief brexit negotiator, michel barnier, has warned that an ongoing deadlock over the financial bill for brexit had become worrying, while brexit secretary, david davis, said progress had was being made. there have been no discussion on this subject. we have confined ourselves to technical discussions. useful discussions but technical discussions. so on this question we've reached a state of deadlock,

which is very disturbing. our aim is provide as much certainty as possible to citizens, business and the european union — and on this we are making real and tangible progress. government officials say they believe a british woman, who went to fight with the so—called islamic state group in syria, has been killed in an unmanned drone strike. sally anne—jones was regarded as a useful propaganda agent for the group. energy prices for 12 million households should be capped as soon as possible, the government says. however, the price cap is unlikely to take effect before winter. coming up: newly qualified gps are to be offered a one—off payment of £20,000 if they start their careers in areas that struggle to attract family doctors. we'll speaking to a gp within the next half hour. the organisation behind the oscars

is to consider taking action against the film producer, harvey weinstein, who's facing a series of accusations of sexual assault. the academy of motion pictures said it would discuss the allegations this weekend. mr weinstein says many of the claims that have been made are false. andrew plant reports. he was a hollywood hit—maker, with an oscar contender almost every year. now harvey weinstein is under investigation and facing a flood of accusations. model and actress, cara delevingne, the latest. invited to a hotel room to discuss business, she said, instead forced to dodge his advances, and flee the room. the lists of actresses grows longer each day. some of hollywood's most famous, like angelina jolie and gwyneth paltrow, and the details repeat — hotel rooms, and massages, persuation, pressure and threats. others go much further, recounting serious sexual assaults and accusations of rape. it's not at all easy

to be the first one or two people who speak and now there's a sort of tsunami of sleeze coming out and all these other people are coming out of the wood works and saying these things but it's those first couple of women, who you really have to say, "thank god they did." he says he regrets his behaviour. his spokeswoman insisting that all sexual encounters were consensual. he's said to be receiving counselling in europe. back in america, his wife has left him. his membership of bafta, the uk's film body, has been suspended. its american equivalent, the hosts of the oscars, have called an emergency meeting and he could be barred from the industry he has ruled for more than 20 years. meanwhile, police say they're investigating the allegations, finally shunning a light into the shadows of the industry and what many believe has been an open secret in hollywood forfar too long. andrew plant, bbc news. newly qualified gps are to be offered a one—off payment of £20,000

if they start their careers in areas that struggle to attract family doctors. the £4 million scheme to boost the numbers of doctors in rural and coastal parts of england. meanwhile, a new report by the king's fund suggests there has been a "worrying" fall in the number of nhs nurses. here's our health editor, hugh pym. with patient numbers rising, staff shortages and difficulties filling rotas have created increasing problems across the nhs. today, plans to try to boost recruitment in some parts of the health service in england will be announced, but new research suggests there are major challenges finding some clinical staff. the number of places for doctors starting specialist training in emergency medicine will be increased from 300 a year to 400. the health secretaryjeremy hunt is to extend a scheme offering a one—off payment of £20,000 to encouraged trainee gps to work in areas where recruitment has been difficult. but a report by the king's fund think tank says the number of nurses and health visitors in england is falling for the first time since 2013, with the number down byjust over 1,000

in the year to june. the royal college of emergency medicine said the recruitment plans for a&e doctors were comprehensive proposals to secure a sustainable workforce. the royal college of gps said £2.4 billion a year extra promised for general practice in england must be delivered in full. hugh pym, bbc news. with me is dr rebecca rosen, who's a gp. do we have any idea how long this golden hello would tie in a gp?” do we have any idea how long this golden hello would tie in a gp? i do not think that has been part of the announcement. 3—5 years. but it is important because for the population who have not had a gp for time, the

wa nt who have not had a gp for time, the want someone that builds up that relationship that underpins good practice. one of the challenges is going to be notjust to get people out, the 20,000 is going to help but to keep them. staying after the term has finished. do you have any statistics to illustrate shortages of gps in areas like this? coastal kent, for example. no gps. and some practices, nurses, specialists, that kind of thing. no gp. and filling the gaps with locums, odd session. it isa the gaps with locums, odd session. it is a real problem for some people. the government is hoping to

attract newly qualified gps and encourage more gps to move from other areas. trying to even out the balance. it is about retaining those gps as well as recruiting. i know that there is a problem with keeping gps in the profession. a lot of pressure in the day—to—day work, a lot of admin, long hours, rising demand from patients. the pressures of regulation. feeling that you do not have enough hours in the day to doa not have enough hours in the day to do a good job. that is the background pressure. but for these young gps who could come to a new area, without many gps, going to need a lot of support to develop the skills, confidence and competence to work effectively. in a line is this

golden hello line going to solve the problem? i think it is going to start to help. it cannot be the com plete start to help. it cannot be the complete solution. i think it will probably help to attract people to areas without doctors at the moment. and i want to ask you about this copy we have had from our health editor. the nhs under severe and relenting pressure, many people worried that this winter is going to be particularly difficult. an outbreak of flu, norovirus. an added strain on the nhs service. that statement goes on. on that point of the winter pressure, how concerned are you as we approach these colder months? my practice is already getting busier. we have heard about

a particularly aggressive strain of australian flu headed our way. big campaign is going to be critical. pa rt campaign is going to be critical. part of the announcement from sir bruce, children getting vaccines so that they do not in grandparents when visiting, that sort of thing. at my practice, really pushing that is one way to counter the pressure. but bracing ourselves for more work and we have always got to work harder at winter. thank you. people convicted of plotting acts of terror will face longer prison sentences, under proposed new guidelines. the sentencing council wants judges in england and wales to deal more harshly with offenders behind less sophisticated — butjust as deadly — terror plots seen recently. it says that minimum sentences should rise to between three and six years. here's our home affairs correspondent, dominic casciani. an unprecedented year of terrorist attacks. khalid masood killed five

in the westminster attack in march. four on the bridge as he turned a car into a weapon. the fifth victim, pc keith palmer, stabbed as he tried to stop masood entering parliament. one of five major incidents this year, with police saying they've stopped at least six more. the severity of the threat and the way it's been changing has led the sentencing council for england and wales to intervene. the council of senior judges and their advisers say terrorism suspects are moving more quickly to attack than ever before. they're turning everyday items, like cars and knives, into weapons. so it's recommending longerjail terms for those guilty of preparing acts of terrorism. we simply looked at the experience in this country in recent months and realised that the nature of the terrorist threat has undoubtedly changed in recent times. we felt it important to react to it and reflect this different type of offending.

it's much more home—made than some of the terrorist schemes that we have had to deal with in the courts in the past. naweed ali, from birmingham, and two other men are already behing bars on life sentences. jailed this year, they hid weapons in a car, used encrypted communications to avoid detection and indoctrinated each other. these proposals will apply most to lesser figures in such plotting and those just beginning to plan an attack. the sentencing council says the risks are too great not to lock them up for longer. dominic casciani, bbc news. detectives in belfast have begun a murder investigation after discovering the body of a woman who may have been dead for almost three years. police found marie conlon dead in her bed in herflat in the west of the city last week. we can talk to our correspondent.

this is absolutely horrendous, the idea that somebody could have been discovered for this length of time. it is very sad. what have the police said? details still coming in about this. the police have not said much but it is certainly clear that this is an incredibly tragic story. on friday, police said they received a report, concern for wealthier about marie conlon who lived in a flat in a development in the west of the city. having to break into the flat. and they found marie conlon dead in bed. it was apparent she had been undiscovered for something. the results of the examination have suggested that marie conlon's death may have been suspicious. and the

last known sighting of her was january 2015. two years, nine months ago. and medical evidence leads them to believe that miss conlon could have died so long ago that it could have died so long ago that it could have been around that time. one man has been arrested. 23 years old. in custody and detectives questioning him ona custody and detectives questioning him on a number of subjects including murder. the headlines on bbc newsroom live: as the fifth round of brexit talks ends, the eu's chief negotiator says there's been no great steps forward and calls the lack of progress "disturbing". sally—annejones, the british woman who fought with so—called islamic state in syria, has reportedly been killed in a drone strike. plans to cap energy bills for 12 million households will be

published by the government later. the statistics for california's wildfires tell their own story. 22 major blazes are being fought by thousands of firefighters and 24 people are known to have died, with more than 500 people missing. and there are worries the changing weather will bring new outbreaks. this report now, from peter bowes. entire communities completely wiped out. in some areas, the deadly wildfires have left nothing but charred rubble and brick chimneys in their way. their destructive power sweeping through northern california's wine country and still burning out of control. this is what the firefighters are facing. one of more than 20 fires, burning across several counties. devastation on this scale has never been seen before in this region. more than 3,000 homes and businesses have been destroyed. fire officials say there's more to come, with high winds and tinder dry vegetation expected to hamper efforts to quell the flames.

there are fears new fires could start at any time. these fires are just... literally burning faster than firefighters can run, in some cases. and so, imagine being out there in difficult terrain with miles and miles of fire line, to try to catch up with that, lay a hose... very challenging. the fires are spotting thousands of feet, miles in some cases, ahead. it is just very difficult to get any kind of containment. the advice to residents is clear... and blunt. i can't emphasise it enough to people. if you look at how fast this fire burned and how fast it went through places, i don't think people... they underestimate how powerful and how dangerous it can be. if you have a place to go — go. you don't need to be here. people living in sonoma county, one of the hardest to be hit, don't need to be told about the destructive power of this inferno. they've seen it first hand. this is apocolyptic, it seems.

this is so out of the norm. i'm from southern california. everything is dry out there. i'm used to fires. but i've never seen anything like this in an urban area. all our pictures are gone... everything. everything is gone. we've got a firepit. it's pretty awful. but we're all healthy and safe and we have to try to be grateful for that. but it's pretty awful. the cost of the fires will run into tens of billions of dollars. and with the death toll continuing to rise, and hundreds of people missing, there's no end in sight to this unfolding catastrophe. whitehall officials have refused to deny reports that a british woman who travelled to syria to support the so—called islamic state group has been killed in a drone strike. sally—annejones, formally a punk musician from kent, went to syria in 2013 and joined is. she became a high profile supporter

and propagandist for the group, using social media to encourage western girls to join and posted messages threatening britain online. earlier, my colleague spoke with haras rafiq, ceo of quilliam, the counter—extremism organisation, and azadeh moaveni, a journalist, writer and lecturer at kingston university. mr rafiq explained her involvement with islamic state. she was a soldier in a war zone and was personally responsible for recruiting many people. she was a propagandist for is and in that situation people like her would be brought to justice in an open court, but she was in a war situation and she was killed whilst fighting against coalition forces. so that is just the way it goes? it is. she put herself in that situation. she put herself in the war zone,

she decided to go there and be a soldier for islamic state and when there is a war and two armies are fighting each other, people die u nfortu nately. what can you tell our audience about sally—anne jones? she was certainly one of the most iconic recruiters that is had. she was of great propaganda value to them because she was slightly telegenic, white woman, who had gone tojoin the jihad against bashar al—assad. having her on side was really important in terms of protecting the idea that they could get into the very reaches of british society. they could pluck up this woman, a punk rocker, white, kind of attractive, and they could have her as their kind of poster woman. why would someone like that, born we are told in london, moved to kent, why would someone like that end up being an is bride,

recruiter, soldier, taking her young son out to syria to a war zone with her? it is bewildering. and there is not a set profile of white converts to islam, why they are drawn to the most extremist militant strain of activity going on in the world of islam. a lot of them tend to come from very fractured families, they are single mothers, divorced, have had a history of domestic violence. initially they look for some belonging in a group that would give them some sense of empowerment, ironically, and counter intuitively through that. a lot of our convert stories in europe fit that profile, rebels and lost souls looking for a group to attach their own life to a wider political narrative. what would you say about that? everybody‘s journey into radicalisation is different, but there are common factors.

there has to be an ideology through which you look at the world view, and charismatic recruiters. if you look at somebody like sallyjones she fits the profile of somebody who would go out and join people like is — it is not underprivileged people who come from disaffected families. the world bank did a study. and a report found the overwhelming majority whojoin is have a better social standing and better education than the national average of the countries they come from, talking about western countries. however, this is part of a wider phenomenon of polarisation and people looking for belonging to a gang and looking for polarised views. it is something we are seeing a lot more now online and off—line.

she was radicalised a while ago and was a charismatic recruiter. her late husband, he persuaded her that this was the solution to her problems, but also her mission in life was to set up and fight for a utopian islamic state. we often talk about people who go out tojoin is as being brainwashed. i wonder... was this a white, middle—class, middle—aged woman who took the decision to go out there despite her intelligence? took that decision? absolutely. that is a great point, i don't think she was brainwashed, and her going back and forth between brainwashed, submissive, naive, led astray, and on the other extreme a subversive, cruel mercenary, and i think these poles of understanding

are not very helpful. a lot of women... people have different motivations, and if we look at them as human beings, they are quite understandable, political grievances, and one thing that has been identified as a common factor in sending a lot of women and men to isis is that they are french—speaking and have veil bans. you have that sense of grievance. compelling you to be attracted. in a moment, the news at one with sophie raworth. first, the weather. it isa it is a much improved de across many

parts of the british isles. this was earlier, across the south eastern corner of devon. i think we are going to say somewhat cloud cover, more cloud across the west of scotland. you are seeing the sign of things to come. you will notice that to the west of the british isles, more cloud gathering. in the later pa rt more cloud gathering. in the later part of the afternoon, it could be enough cloud for some rain for northern ireland. we continue that process through the course of the night. i also want to draw your attention to the number of isobars. indicative of the strengthening wind. across the very far north west of scotland. another one, with 12-14. the of scotland. another one, with 12—14. the combination of weight and windy weather, and similar prospect for northern ireland. rain coming

back to the area in cumbria. so much rain on wednesday. some warnings about that from the met office and eventually, getting to the north of wales. elsewhere, warmth to end the week. the message, we are going to get some warmth four parts of the british isles. certainly in the south, could be looking at low 20s. we have to thank the importation of warm airfrom iberia. it is pushing that weather front to the north. you have got to be south of that to get the best. north — cool. on sunday, not much change. if you have got rain on saturday, the chance of that on sunday. we could be looking at low 20s. through the weekend and for

the start of next week, if you have heard about the remnants of that hurricane storm, still powerful, going to be close to the west of the british isles on monday. close to the north on tuesday. gusts, 60, 70. and we will keep pupils —— you posted of course. no great steps forward in the brexit negotiations says brussels as the latest round of talks come to an end. the eu's chief negotiator says there's not enough progress to move on to trade talks. the uk's financial settlement is a major sticking point. on this question, we've reached a state of deadlock which is very disturbing. while there is still work to be done, much work to be done, we've come a long way, and it's important to recognise the significant progress we've made since june. but at next week's crucial summit, brussels will tell eu leaders they're still not ready to talk about the uk's post brexit trade relationship.

also this lunchtime... a british woman — sally—annejones, who became a high—profile recruiter for the islamic state group, has reportedly been killed in syria. as more allegations of sexual assault are made, the disgraced