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this today at 5pm — theresa may insists that important progress has been made, in the latest brexit negotiations. the prime minister reports back on last week's summit, facing labour claims that her brexit approach is chaotic and damaging. by approaching these negotiations in a constructive way ina way in a friendly and cooperative way, we will deliver the best for oui’ way, we will deliver the best for our people. here we are again after another round of talks and we are still no clearer as to where negotiations on britain's future with our largest trading partner will actually begin. also today, the european commission president denies saying that mrs may had been despondent and begging for help last week. we'll have the latest from westminster and brussels, and speaking to a former head of the cbi, on the calls for ministers to agree an urgent transitional brexit deal. the other main stories on bbc news at 5 — drivers of some older and more
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polluting vehicles will now pay almost double, to drive in central london, in new measures to tackle pollution. the widow of an american soldier, who died in action, says president trump struggled to remember his name, when he called to offer sympathy. the world's coral reefs are being turned into "bleached deserts", a warning today from sir david attenborough. if you've ever seen a coral reef and you think what that once was, that's enough to make you weep. and we talk to a second world war veteran about life at 100 and meeting royalty, as the number of centenarians is expected to rise dramatically. it's 5pm. our main story is the prime
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minister's report on the eu summit in brussels last week. theresa may told mps this afternoon that the latest talks have made important progress but she said the uk's financial settlement couldn't be agreed until there was clarity on the future relationship after brexit. mrs may said there'd be a vote in parliament on the final brexit deal, to take place before the european parliament voted on the agreement. during the day, business leaders have called for transitional brexit deal to be reached by the end of the year. in a letter to ministers, the cbi, the confederation of british industry, along with four other major business groups, warned that without an urgent deal, jobs and investment would suffer. our political correspondent eleanor garnier is at westminster with the latest. it was no surprise that last week's summit didn't make sufficient progress and move on to phase two of the talks. nevertheless, you can't
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get away from the fact that that deadline to move on to talk about trade and transition was missed. having said that, theresa may did not come away empty—handed. whilst the other 27 leaders agreed that they would start preparation and talks about talks on trade and transition, they said they hadn't been the sufficient progress for the uk to start formal negotiations on those issues. when theresa may an hour or so ago started updating mps on how the summit went, she said her talks in recent days in brussels had given her a degree of certainty, that she would be able to get a good trade deal. mr speaker, i am ambitions and positive about the future of britain's negotiations. if we're going to take a step forward together, it must be on the basis ofjoint effort and endeavour between the uk
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and the eu but i believe that by approaching these negotiations in a constructive way, in the spirit of friendship and cooperation, we can and will deliver the best possible outcome that works for all our people. and that that belief was shared by other european leaders. mr speaker, we are going to leave the european union in march 2019, delivering on the democratic will of the british people. of course, we are preparing for every eventuality to ensure we leave in a smooth and orderly way but i'm confident that we will be able to negotiate a new, deep and special partnership between a sovereign united kingdom and our friends in the european union. isa is a further progress is needed for eu citizens rights, the irish border and the issue of money. how much of the us doing macro uk willing to pay when they leave the eu? it was a sticking point and we also saw jeremy corbyn in brussels he said he was not there to cause trouble and make things more difficult for the
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prime minister, he said he was and unlock the deadlock in those talks. today, in the house of commons, he criticised theresa may for her lack of clarity over the timing of trade deal. the biggest battle the prime minister faces isn't so much with the 27th european states, the chancellor so deftly described as the enemy, it's her battle to bring together the warring factions of her own cabinet and party. and the prime minister is too weak to do anything about it. the outcome of crashing out with no deal has become with no deal to become a deregulated tax haven, the dream of a powerful faction of her backbenches and her front benches, would be a nightmare for people'sjobs and living standards. it was one of theresa may's owned backbench mps, the arch eurosceptic bernard jenkin who came to her defence. anyone who suggested that she is
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weak is seriously underestimating her... seriously underestimating this party which supports and underestimating the importance of the referendum mandate and the fact that she personally obtained more conservative votes than any other conservative leader for 30 years. and will she stick to her guns, follow through and have confidence unfortunately the only people undermining her from the side are people who are threatening to go to the lobbies with the labour party. theresa may talking of being ambitious, of positivity, then she came back to westminster today with a letter from a came back to westminster today with a letterfrom a group or a series of groups of business lobbying groups saying they needed transition deal urgently. she faces pressure from
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brussels in those negotiations, from mps here, not just brussels in those negotiations, from mps here, notjust opposition but some on her own backbenchers, and pressure from business leaders as well. eleanor, thank you. that's the latest at westminster. the touch on that letter of on business leaders ina that letter of on business leaders in a moment, but we're talking about the pressure on the prime minister and another element on that today... the president of the european commission jean—claude juncker has denied leaking an account of his dinner with mrs may, in brussels last week. he said reports that she'd been tired and had begged for help were inaccurate. mrjuncker‘s chief of staff said the account, in a german newspaper, was an attempt to undermine the brexit talks. 0ur political correspondent alex forsyth reports. prime minister, what are you putting on the table? this time last week, the prime minister left downing street for brussels. her aim, to try to unblock brexit talks over dinner with senior figures from the eu.
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the meal in the belgian capital was officially called constructive. then, this emerged. an account in a german newspaper, which said that mrs may, under political pressure at home, had pleaded for help from the eu. the president of the european commission reportedly said that she'd looked nervous and disheartened. jean—claude juncker, according to the newspaper, said the prime minister seemed like she had not slept for days. this morning, his senior aide rejected the reports. he said... he claimed it was an attempt to frame the eu side and undermine talks. presidentjuncker himself was asked about the claims in strasbourg this afternoon. did you tell the press what happened? i am surprised and
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shocked at what has been been repeated in the german press, i had an excellent working dinner in theresa may, she was in good sense, she was not tired, she was fighting as his/her duties on everything for me was ok. she didn't plead with you for help? no. the government will not comment on leaks, but says that tangible progress is being made. nonetheless, five prominent business groups have drafted a letter to the brexit secretary, warning of the dangers of prolonged uncertainty. the impact on jobs and investment is the same across the european union. one of the big messages from firms is get on with it, on both sides, find a way to get an agreement by the end of transition so that we can have the all—important proper trade talks about the final deal in the first half of next year. that is a sentiment echoed by the foreign secretary, who said that he welcomed positive vibes from eu leaders after the talks last week in brussels. they have given a fair wind
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to the idea of themselves now discussing the new trade deal, however they want to proceed. i suggest, humbly, to ourfriends and partners in brussels, now is the time to get on with it. when these leaders meet again in december, they will decide whether to start discussing future relations between the uk and the eu. no doubt, between now and then they will hope that conversations remain private. with me is the crossbench peer lord digbyjones, the former head of the cbi and a prominent leave supporter. thanks forjoining us. would you have signed this letter? would you have signed this letter? would you have coordinated? i'd have coordinated a letter but it would not have said that. if it was going to say that, i would send it to brussels as follows london, and berlin as much as attended to brussels because these trade
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organisations, i ran one as you said, they are full of businesses that trade everywhere, but lots of european businesses have uk operation members. at the end of the day, we have to stop this idea we are somehow penitence and little naughty schoolboys being given a slap, double latin on friday because you've been a naughty boy. they have to understand, and these organisations should know better, we should negotiate a deal by saying we will not walk away ever and secondly i need you to do this, and please, and it doesn't work. there is a very easy way, i would say to the organisations and to the labour opposition and to her own parties, some members, there is easy way to make this hurry up, pay them what they want. but you've never done a negotiation like that business and you should know better. what really frustrates me is that we seem to be looking at this from oh dear, we wa nt looking at this from oh dear, we want something. the eu need this as
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much as we do. it's high time we called their bluff about this idea we have not done enough yet. on one of your reports, they said they do not know whether sufficient progress has been made. how about them making some progress? what about them coming to the party? there is a legal point, isn't there, that's how much you are legally obliged to pay, we should pay it. that's how much is lacklustre play on top, there's a deal to be done. —— that's how much they'd like us to pay on top. don't jab to turn many, but it doesn't help with organisations and to london not brussels and berlin and make an obvious statement. what would you say to a business person watching who says what we are asking for is certainty. in your previous life as a business person, i'm thinking, if they're asking for the transition deal, and clarity, is that
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unreasonable? it's not unreasonable. ichair unreasonable? it's not unreasonable. i chair businesses now and we would love a n i chair businesses now and we would love an 84 certainty and we don't get it from its affects investment decision. it affects the investment climate and one of the businesses i'd share with, we are wondering where we will be, do we hold back whatever someone else? the quicker we get certainty, the better it is. the argument in that letter is spot—on, not decrying the message, and saying you sent it to the wrong person. really? obviously, british are trying to get involved. what is david davis going to do other than giving in to achieve what they want. and achieve what i want. it's to negotiate, but you can't negotiate against someone who's saying try harder. is that what are saying? yes. they mean by significant progress, pay us more money. the only way to negotiate is to say i've gone as far as i can and walking away, and at that point i'd like to
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think european companies based in britain who are members of those organisations, should be saying to angle merkel, this is all about the german influence, germans decide this at the end of the day not brussels. at some point the germans must say we have done what we can, what matters is the trade. do you agree with the point of the letter with this unless we kept the transitional deal by the end of that year, jobs and investment in the uk are most important, they will be decided. they are right. they should say we are coming out on that day, deal done, now we need a period of time to make that effective. i wouldn't go an overall transition, i'd have financial services needing transitional time, they'll be different for manufacturing and agriculture and universities. sounds quite complex. shore. at the end of the day, it has to be, we are out and have signed the deal, now we
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have have a different transition time for different sectors. the letter is spot on and the quicker we get certainty, we make our investment decision. my criticism todayis investment decision. my criticism today is that they should have included berlin and brussels in this and they didn't, and stopped saying the british government, hurry it along. actually, the only way to hurry this along quickly for us is right to be checked. i can to see all of you guys, if theresa may gave in the morning about the checkpoint next question from you won't be why did you pay so much money? last week, though saying why did you do it along. quite a lot of people would ask that. at the end of the day, i can see why a large part of the business community would say access to the single market which is different in norway and switzerland, we are one of the biggest economies on earth, it will be a one—off deal. that is worth paying more money for. i get that, so do the deal. but
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don't carry on europe, please, saying you haven't done enough, i'm not talking to you. because part of that money deal has to be what are you going to give us? what will i pay for? if i'm getting greater access, is worth more money, then big a deal. but if you say i want the money and i won't tell you what the money and i won't tell you what the obligation is, there's a bit more. that bit more, which they say you're not paying enough, what am i getting four in europe? what will you give me for this angela merkel? do you have asked the goal in mind? —— figure in mind grizzled but i'd like to put in another ten million and say i'll tell you what we do that, get a young unemployed greek person and a single man in madrid and all the people you don't help. let's get them all into work. it would show what business can do, help southern europe which is badly in need of it, and say britain is coming to this as a penitent
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wrongdoer and at the 30 billion but what would i go and what do you know, it's happening behind closed doors. in return, we will have a degree of single market access because by the way, your companies in germany and france needed just as much as we do. if somebody breathed a bit of some sense into this instead of polemic labour and tories browing, juncker and all the others having a row, somebody said 520 million people here have livelihoods depended on this mustjust as much as ours, and all the others having a row, somebody said 520 million people here have livelihoods depended on this, just as much as has, on that basis, stop all this, do it in the morning because you know the frustrating thing is they could. digby jones, thanks for joining us. this is bbc news at five, the headlines: theresa may insists that progress has been made in brexit talks, but labour says her approach is chaotic and damaging. meanwhile the european commission president denies saying that mrs may is
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had been despondent and begging for help last week. will now pay almost double, to drive in central london, in new measures to tackle pollution. and in sport: everton have sacked manager ronald koeman nine games into the premier league season. they were thrashed 5—2 by arsenal at home yesterday, leaving them in the relegation zone. a chinese doctor claims more than 10,000 athletes from the country used banned substances during the 1980s and 1990s and that all medals won during that period should be made void. and gloucestershire's jack taylor has been suspended from bowling for a year after his action was found to be illegal for the second time within a 12—month period. i'll be back with more on those stories at 5:30pm. anti—pollution campaigners have warned that new measures,
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designed to improve air quality in london, don't go far enough. from today, drivers of some older vehicles will have to pay an extra ten pounds to enter central areas of london. the toxicity charge, or t—charge, will apply mainly to diesel and petrol vehicles registered before 2006. a the mayor of london, sadiq khan, said the move would help tackle a ‘health crisis‘ in the city. 0ur transport correspondent richard westcott reports. london has some of the most polluted streets in europe, swimming in nitrogen dioxide and tiny particles invisible without a special camera. so now driving a dirtier vehicle into the heart of the city during the will cost more. i want to see the quality of air improved now, not some date in the future, 15—20 years at a time, so i am in favour of encouraging people to change their behaviour so they stop driving the most
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polluting vehicles and start moving to public transport, walking or cycling, or cleaner cars or vans. from today, anybody crossing this line in an older vehicle will have to pay an extra £10, and it looks like it's already affecting people's behaviour. when they first talked about this in february, they said around 10,000 vehicles per day would have to pay. a few months later, they are now just talking about 6,500 vehicles, which suggests that people are changing their cars and vans. it will affect many vehicles registered before 2006 so, as well as that additional £10, they will pay £11.50 congestion charge, so that's £21.50 in total. campaigners say it will save lives, but not everyone is happy. i think it's a bit much. i understand why they are doing it, for the pollution, the amount of people going into london, but i am thinking small to medium—sized businesses that have vans, i think they're going to need to buy new vans. it's going to get a lot of poor
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people, who can't afford it. what are they going to do? it's pretty difficult. for everyone who runs a small business and can only afford an old van, they will be hammered. a study last week suggested that dirty air contributed to about 50,000 deaths in the uk in 2015, giving it one of the worst records in europe. it isn'tjust a london problem. many towns and cities break eu pollution limits. it's one of a raft of measures that needs to happen. we'd like the government to launch a new clean air act, to bring together a load of different policies to allow us to tackle this from different angles, and we feel it's something the government should commit to. many city leaders across britain are looking at cutting pollution. they will announce plans next year. in glasgow, there is talk of a similar low emission zone, but it's not clear if drivers would have to pay. meanwhile, the london zone is being extended in a few years, with even tougher rules on who has
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to pay to come in. the widow of an american soldier who died on active service says she was angered by a call from president trump, offering his condolences because he struggled to remember her husband's name. in her first broadcast interview, myeshia johnson told the us network abc that mr trump's call had made her cry even more. the president said that he knew what he signed up for, but it hurts anyway. and it made me cry because i was very angry at the tone of his voice and how he said it. he couldn't remember my husband's name. the only way he remembered it was because he told me he had my husband's report in front of him, and that's when he actually said la david.
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i heard him stumbling and trying to remember my husband's name. and that is what hurts me the most because, if my husband is out there fighting for our country, and he risked his life for our country, why can't you remember his name? and that's what made me upset and cry even more, because my husband was an awesome soldier. myeshia johnson speaking to the us network abc earlier. 0ur correspondent laura bicker is in washington with the latest. a very powerful contributions by the widow as we've just heard, and what's been the response from the white house? this feud has been boiling for a week now. president trump has tweeted to say that he did not hesitate when it came to sergeant thompson's name and that he had a very good conversation with the widow. but this has been a row about a condolence call. 0ne the widow. but this has been a row about a condolence call. one where the widow of a foreign soldier field
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is necessary to go on national television to describe her account of how the call went forward. she also said the called deep and her grief, made her cry even more, and she has not been allowed to see her husband's body and is not sure what happened to him between the niger— mali border. he is believed to have been ambushed by 50 islamic militants. there has also been raised questions why us soldiers are in the neater, and there are calls foran in the neater, and there are calls for an enquiry for exactly what happened to those four soldiers. but this row goes to the very heart of what critics have been saying about the white house for months, it has a credibility problem. went out he needs to be factor, before he blamed fake news but now he's going
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up blamed fake news but now he's going up against the widow of a fallen soldier and this is a no—win situation for the president. on that point, what is the political calculation here. as you say, in political terms, the stakes are high here, given the people taking part in this confrontation. what do you think the white house is really trying to get out of this and why is the president still persisting in this exchange? he is trying to put forward , this exchange? he is trying to put forward, he just hates to back down, and he's trying to put forward his account. last week, he defended his calls to those of fallen soldiers saying other presidents didn't bother calling. again, something that has been disputed. he then went up that has been disputed. he then went up againsta that has been disputed. he then went up against a congresswoman who was in the car when the score was made, who said this call was inappropriate. —— when the call was made. he called her wacky, then it felt like a political row. there is no wind for this situation for
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trump. to tweet just no wind for this situation for trump. to tweetjust bought after this interview aired, to say he did remember the name of sergeant thompson, perhaps many would describe as inappropriate himself. —— sergeantjohnson. many will be urging him to back down on this one but we'll have to wait and see if he does that. the international development secretary, priti patel, has said one of her ministers was right — to suggest that britons who join so—called islamic state should be killed. yesterday, rory stewart said recruits to is should not be helped to come back home. today, ms patel said she supported him. the only way to deal with them is, as the secretary of state for defence has said, as rory stewart has said as well, are through the actions that we and others are taking through coalition forces, which is to clearly to kill them in the way in which, you know, the various strikes have been taking place. let's speak to dr david lowes, a former counter—terrorism officer with special branch, who now works as an expert witness at the trials of british terror suspects.
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he's in our liverpool studio. thanks forjoining us. your immediate response to rory stewart and priti patel today?|j immediate response to rory stewart and priti pateltoday? i understand where they are coming from. you have hardened fighters who have british backgrounds who have gone out there to fight and certainly if they are still there now, they will be imbued with that cause. but really what i have personally would like to see is if they do manage to return to the uk, and like to see them arrested on arrival and go to the due process of arrival and go to the due process of a criminal trial. i think that is what differentiates us as illiberal democracy from a totalitarian state. but i understand where they are coming from, if they want to stay there and fight, then they will pay there and fight, then they will pay the consequences of it. i'm no apologist for groups like islamic state, i see it as a manifestation of evil. but i think those who comes
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back, there may be the odd one who was still trapped other who went out naively, fell further propaganda who is trying to get out. we know what this group is like for anyone trying to escape, they will kill them. what does history tell us? about those who do come back and how they are treated, and what kind of information can be got out of them. what can you tell us about that? there has been a number who have returned a fuel years ago, and they went out there and realised it wasn't what islamic state was claiming. they have been helped, and then there are those with that cause. if they are either arrested a start to talk and discuss their experiences, you can get valuable information. on top of that, what is important is to have them arrested and put up for trial. let the court process ta ke and put up for trial. let the court process take its due course. what we
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have here, given what these ministers have said, is this a difference of strategy or does it reveal more about the kind of thinking and culture within government? to me, it's a little disappointing that it should be public. i understand why they are from. you look at the syria— iraq region, if exit have lost all their towns and cities, they will undertake more of a gorilla delimiter gorilla fighting a number of forces in sillier two syria and —— and the iraqi government. it is difficult, if they want to stay there and fight, they will pay the consequences and they will get targeted drone strikes will take place, but those who want to return, let them come back but on their return, have them arrested. thanks
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for joining return, have them arrested. thanks forjoining us. the time is 5:30pm, the headlines for you in the time is 5:30pm, the headlines foryou ina the time is 5:30pm, the headlines for you in a second, we will have the day's sports news but ben is here with the weather. pretty cloudy today and it will remain like that for the next few days. along with the cloud, it will be pretty mild particularly where the cloud breaks, and it broke up a little bit for this weather watcher in county durham earlier. the satellite picture tells a story of today, this shield of cloud bringing outbreaks of rain, the brightest of weather was on the far north—west. we will see some clear skies this evening, certainly a lot of dry weather this evening, that will change later in the night, thick clouds rolling from the night, thick clouds rolling from the south—west and it will turn misty and murky with outbreaks of rain. 15 degrees in plymouth, that's the overnight low. very mild air continuing to waft its weight in the country tomorrow, with
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south—westerly winds clearing for most by the afternoon, but —— wales will have it. the pattern continues into wednesday and thursday, the best of the brightness is further north, the best of the warmth is set to leg further south. —— further south. this is bbc news. the headlines: theresa may insists that progress has been made in brexit talks, she updated mps after last week's summit in brussels. by approaching these negotiations in a constructive way, in the spirit of friendship and cooperation, we can and will deliver the best possible outcome that works for all our people. meanwhile, the european commission president denies saying that mrs may had been despondent and begging for help last week. also today, drivers of some older
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and more polluting vehicles will now pay almost double, to drive in central london, in new measures to tackle pollution. the widow of an american soldier, who died in action, says president trump struggled to remember his name when he called to offer sympathy. in a moment, we'll be speaking to a second world war veteran, about life at a hundred and meeting royalty, as the number of centenarians is expected to rise dramatically. at 5:32, we will catch up with the sports news. hugh woozencroft there for us. everton are searching for a new manager after the sacking of ronald koeman earlier today afterjust 16 months in thejob. koeman leaves the club 18th in the table, afterjust two wins from nine premier league games. they were beaten 5—2 by arsenal yesterday and have also failed to win any of their three europa league matches so far. it marks a rapid decline for koeman after leading the club to a seventh
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placed finish in his first season in charge. everyone expected him, a lot of people expected them to go upwards from here, because they spent a lot of money. for them to go backwards, or downwards as it is in the league, it has been a shock to everyone. there have been a lot of different reasons for it. some important players are ageing a little bit, which doesn't help. the new group hasn't melded in particularly well. i think it looks as if there has been a lack of belief from the players and the manager. i have been to see everton a couple of times this season at goodison park, and there really isn't an understanding between the players. it doesn't look... it looks like a group of players, as opposed to 18. —— to a team. a chinese doctor has claimed that more than 10,000 chinese athletes used banned substances
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during the 1980s and 90s. the world anti—doping agency will investigate the claims made to german broadcaster ard. the doctor says all international medals won by her country during that period should be declared void because they are "tainted by doping". she also alleges athletes as young as 11 were doped, & the state—run system covered sports from athletics to weightlifting. the world number one simona halep has won her opening ‘round—robin' match at the end of season wta finals in singapore. she beat france's caroline garcia in straight sets, 6—4, 6—2. elsewhere, caroline wozniacki saw off elina svitolina of ukraine for the first time in her career, coming through 6—2, 6—0. in cricket, gloucestershire's jack taylor has been suspended from bowling for a year after his action was found to be illegal for the second time within a 12—month period. the off—spinner who has served previous bands, was reported for
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throwing this summer. his suspension ru ns throwing this summer. his suspension runs until next year, after which, he can ask for a re—evaluation of his action. adam peaty looks in great form ahead of next april's commonwealth games, he returns to action in winds in the 50 metres in manchester. he finished second in the 200 metres, but says he has no plans to compete regularly over the longer distance. i haven't swum the 200 ina longer distance. i haven't swum the 200 in a couple of years. but 100, endurance wise, it is something different to do, and gives people something different to watch when i am dying in the last 25. it is one of the best games on the rotor. the 0lympics of the best games on the rotor. the olympics is very good, but the commonwealth is a little bit more, i don't know, a little bit more competitive, because you are the home nation, and you are battling against each other. i am looking forward to it. that's all the sport for now. you can find more on all those
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stories on the bbc sport website. that's bbc.co.uk/sport and i'll have more for you in the next hour. the time is 5:30 six. —— the time is 5:36. there are around 14,000 centenarians in the uk, a number predicted to double every decade. one in three babies born now is likely to live to be at least 100 years. incredible figures, aren't they. tonight, a panorama special on bbc one follows seven people to find out what life's like at 100. i'm lucky to be 101 years old. nobody wants to die. i don't feel old. it's only a number. i can't say it's a very good life. you feel you want to do things, and you can't. i think i can be an asset. we all could learn a lot from people of my age. i've had a good life, and i've persevered with myself. i think your outlook,
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your attitude towards life — you have one life, live it. hello, you don't look any different. you have the same! i don't feel 105. cheeky! you learn something every day. if i come across a new word, gosh. it's made me for that day. and the diabolo. time goes very quickly. remarkable energy and determination in that little clip. joining me now are sid spalding, who served with the british army in the second world war, who's100 years old, and angie mason, who is the director and producer of the panorama programme. nice to have you both in the studio. welcome, sid. nice to see you. thank
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you very much. behind us, we have a photo of you as a handsome young man, there you are. yes. how old are you there? 24. just into the second world war? yes. i hear that you were at dunkirk. dunkirk was an evacuation. when we arrived at dunkirk, my officer said, evacuation. when we arrived at dunkirk, my officersaid, "every evacuation. when we arrived at dunkirk, my officer said, "every man for himself." which meant you were on your own. from then on, i did several things, besides crawling in the dunes, and making myself invisible, more or less, from the enemy, until nightfall. right. when
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it got dark. i made my way to the coast. there was a pier that was virtually blown away. i looked down the pier, and a voice said, "tommy. .. there the pier, and a voice said, "tommy... there was" a small boat, and on the boat, there was a ladder. they put the ladder up what was left of the pier, i was told to crawl down and i was put in a boat, which idid, down and i was put in a boat, which i did, after down and i was put in a boat, which idid, aftera down and i was put in a boat, which i did, after a struggle. remarkable. when you reached the english coast, how long did that take? all night. all night. could you believe you got out of there? i transferred from that little vessel to a bigger barge, which brought me to england
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overnight, and we arrived in england. and all those years later, can you believe today, a big film has been made of dunkirk recently, i am sure you have seen it. but can you believe you made it out of it alive? i did expect to come out. although i got away, i didn't really expect. can i bring angie in as well? we could talk to him all day! they are the stars of the show!|j well? we could talk to him all day! they are the stars of the show! i am looking forward to seeing it, what is the main thing you have taken away from interviewing these remarkable people? what is the main thing that you can offer viewers today? we followed them for 6-7 months on and off, because they can't take long filming days. but what hit me and james rogan, my fellow director, we are living in
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real—time with this big issue of people like sid, living well, living healthily, living long. the implications for us all, for us as families, the nhs, for social care, really quite important. it seems it is not on the national agenda as an issue. we are in denial. we are in denial. it is a box to big to open. the institutions aren't seeing it. for us, it was a seminal moment —— too big to open. we have got to address it, because the invitations for us all pretty staggering. following on from that, sid, you have been asked this many times, i am sure you have. is there a secret? have you lived a healthy love? am sure you have. is there a secret? have you lived a healthy love ?|j have lived a healthy life. i have worked hard all my life. i have been
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engaged in lots of sports, which keeps me healthy. yeah. that is the only thing i can tell you. a long and healthy life, work hard, take interest in most things. you have maintained that all along? all the way through. today, at this grand age, what is your day like? do you still go for walks? what do you do? untilfour still go for walks? what do you do? until four years still go for walks? what do you do? untilfour years ago, still go for walks? what do you do? until four years ago, i still go for walks? what do you do? untilfour years ago, i used to walk. but this last four years, i've sold my motor, and i've got a mobile scooter. so you are still mobile? i can get to the shops and do my shopping, and do most of my own house work. i want to share an image with the viewers, if i can. you are with the viewers, if i can. you are with prince harry, actually. was this at the premiere of dunkirk the film? what was it like to meet
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prince harry? he is a gentleman. a very, very nice man. you are having a nice chat with him, anyway. yes. what did you ask him? we talked about the war, and we talked about the evacuation. i went through egypt. the evacuation. i went through egypt, i came back and i went to germany. that's where we finished. when did you leave the armed forces? at the end of the war? 1946. right, 0k. at the end of the war? 1946. right, ok. i was demobbed. at the end of the war? 1946. right, ok. iwas demobbed. demobbed at the end of the war? 1946. right, ok. i was demobbed. demobbed at that time. lovely images. i am sure you have lots of other nice images in the programme. what do you want viewers to take away from the programme when they see it and i?” wa nt programme when they see it and i?” want them to think about the invitations for them as members of the family. this is a theme that has come out consistently throughout. if you have somebody like sid, who is 100, others are 105. they have kids
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in their70s or 100, others are 105. they have kids in their 70s or 80s. they have children in their60s, in their 70s or 80s. they have children in their 60s, and grandchildren. so the implications are absolutely important for all of society about what is going to happen to me when i get to be 100. we can't escape it. it's happening. does the programme ask the question, do you offer solutions? we ask the question, but we had to think about social care, because sid is completely independent. i phoned him at home, his home is immaculate. he leads a regiment of life, everything is in order, isn't it, you does his own cooking and shopping, everything. he is independent. a lot of people aren't so independent. a lot of people aren't so independent, who need help, and care, whether it is through care homes, or in their own home. i think
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we have got to start sitting up and listening to what is happening, because it is in real—time. listening to what is happening, because it is in real-time. a final thought, sid. how important has it been for you to lead an independent life, even at this age? very, very important. yes, it is. you don't like people pushing and shoving. you love to be independent, do your own thing, if you can. if you can, yes. if you need help, they should be there. it is a pleasure to talk to you. thank you for coming in. thank you. and you can see panorama — life at 100, tonight at 8:30 on bbc one. don't miss it, it will be a terrific watch. i would like to thank angie and sid for coming into the studio today. thank you very much indeed. the trial of an army sergeant accused of sabotaging his wife's parachute, in order to try to kill
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her, has been hearing the details of text messages between him and his lover. emile cilliers denies the charges against him. 0ur correspondent duncan kennedy reports from winchester crown court. emile cilliers, on the left, sat and listened as a police officer read out the texts. the prosecution claimed that emile cilliers wanted victoria cilliers to die so that he could set up a new life with stefanie goller. emile cilliers apparent debts came to life in some of the texts. victoria said: later, she asks: emile cilliers replied:
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later, mrs he had sabotaged the parachute at an airbase in wiltshire. victoria cilliers suffered serious injuries when her main and reserve parachutes failed to open. the court moved on to the affair emile cilliers had, and who he had planned to live with. later, the texts turned to the issue ofa later, the texts turned to the issue of a gas leak at their house before the parachute accident. the prosecution say it was a separate
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attempt on victoria's life. victoria says to emile: the texts run to more than 100 pages, and cover months and months of the relationships between emile cilliers and his wife victoria, and between emile cilliers and his lover. the prosecution say that contained within this text of a motive that emile cilliers wanted to kill his wife. nl scillies denies
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two counts of attentive mother, and one count of recklessly endangering life. the trial continues tomorrow. this is bbc news at five. the headlines: theresa may insists that progress has been made in brexit talks, but labour says her approach is chaotic and damaging. meanwhile, the european commission president denies saying that mrs may had been despondent and begging for help last week. drivers of some older and more polluting vehicles will now pay almost double, to drive in central london, in new measures to tackle pollution. an undercover investigation by the bbc has revealed that cocaine, counterfeit goods and stolen passports are being openly traded on a uk website. the inside out programme, to be broadcast on bbc one at 7:30 this evening,
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found widespread evidence of illegal activity, on the classified ads site, craigslist. 0ur correspondentjonathan gibson has the story. in a cumbrian pub car park, i've arranged to buy some dodgy tobacco. it's counterfeit, yes? yeah. the man is advertising his tobacco on craigslist. it's a classified ads website, where i can also find class—a drugs. in derby i've arranged to buy cocaine. £80, mate, yeah? £80, yeah. all right, mate. ideal. see you later. 0k, mate. cheers. anyone can advertise on craigslist, and they do. ads for drugs sit next to ads for second—hand sofas or stolen passports. but what else is on craigslist? in manchester, we filmed a woman offering to launder money. in london, i met a man looking for postmen to intercept bank cards. and in slough, this guy keeps failing his driving test, so he's placed an ad on craigslist to get someone to do it for him. the amount of organised crime sitting behind everything that you shown there it is frightening.
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it's critical that the police force or the law enforcement agencies force the likes of craigslist to do something about it. craigslist refused to do an interview and the american—based company wouldn't even give us a statement. but what do the people we've filmed have to say for themselves? why are you doing it? i don't know why i'm doing it, to be honest. i'm trying to make money for my family. but not everyone hangs around to talk. the thing is, mate, iwork for the bbc and we are trying to find out, mate, why you're peddling cocaine. why is that? well, he wasn't hanging about, was he? and neither was the man selling stolen passports. i'm not buying a passport off you, mate, because i work for the bbc and i want to know why you are selling stolen passports? the home office say
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they are investigating how websites like craigslist are being used by criminals to facilitate crime. jonathan gibson, bbc news. viewers in the west midlands can see more on that story on inside out on bbc one at 7:30, and you can find all the inside out programmes across england on the bbc iplayer. the financial conduct authority has said it may take further action over the way the royal bank of scotland treated some small businesses. rbs has apologised once again for its mistake. a scottish man who was sentenced to three months in prison in dubai for public indecency, has had the case against him dropped, after an intervention by the country's ruler. jamie harron, who's 27 and from stirling, was accused of touching a man's hip in a bar injuly. the broadcaster sir david
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attenborough has been sharing some of his concerns about changes to the world's oceans. he was speaking ahead of the new series of blue planet, which is back on our screens this coming sunday, after a break of almost 20 years. that is since the original landmark series. 0ur science editor david shukman went to meet him. a mother walrus still needs to find a place where her young can rest. there was a very moving scene in episode one of a walrus mother trying to get her calf onto a piece of ice and there wasn't much left because it's all melting. what's your sense about the scale and rate of change in, for example, the arctic. i think that any sceptics that there were ten years ago or 20 years ago about global warming and so on and about climate change and there were lots, must surely be diminishing almost to vanishing point, when you see the evidence that we collected — scientists around the world have
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collected — of what's happening to our seas. and the fact that we're responsible for that. now, you've talked about the fragility of the ocean and i know in one of the episodes you explore some of the threats that they face. what for you is, if you like, the most compelling argument that they are under threat? i suppose areas of bleached coral, in the last programme in which we deal with the problems facing the oceans, there are shots of big areas of coral reef that are white, bleached, crumbling deserts. and if you've ever seen a coral reef and you think what that once was, that's enough to make you weep. what is it that motivates you to remain engaged at this active pace, if i may say, at your age? but it's so wonderful, so astonishing,
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what more do you want out of life? this amazing panoply of astonishment and beauty and intricacy and wonder and areas that we don't know about. discovery in the natural world is just never—ending and a never—ending delight. and david, you're obviously renowned for engaging younger audiences in the natural world. what do you think about this series will most captivate younger people, what is it that you're hoping that they will engage with? i suppose the complexity and the beauty of the underwater world and of the characters, the little things, the extraordinary behaviours of all these creatures doing so, and they are all so beautiful and extraordinary and so unlike anything else that we encounter on our dry land. the world of the underwater is just amazing. and sir david attenborough‘s new series, blue planet ii,
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begins on sunday at 8pm on bbc one. time for a look at the weather. here's ben rich. a lot of cloud today, you don't need me to tell you that. our weather watchers have been capturing the scene. that is peterhead in aberdeenshire, train from the thickest of the cloud. a similar story across cumbria, thick cloud and misty, murky conditions as well. this is because we have south—westerly winds driving across the atlantic. this area of low pressure is dominating the scene. in the south—west, a stream of cloud heading our direction during this evening and tonight we will see the cloud spread, particularly after midnight. things will turn misty, murky and damp with heavy rain in parts of the west by end of the night. as we start off tomorrow, for
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the journey to work, for example, cloud in the south—west, misty and murky over the hills, spots of drizzle as well. 0utbreaks murky over the hills, spots of drizzle as well. outbreaks of rain in the south—east, in the london area. heavy rain in the midlands, wales and northwest england. double—digit figures at 8am in the morning. for northern ireland and scholar, blustery in coastal parts in the west and north—west. 0utbreaks in the west and north—west. outbreaks of rain will push erratically eastwards. most places will perk up in the afternoon. the best brightness in the north—west, but showers. left behind, trailing weather fronts across northern england and wales. the rain continuing for a good part of the day. in the south, with the cloud, 18 or 19. this weather front is the big player in the weather for the middle part of the week. it wriggles and rides around, heading south, heading north. to the south of it,
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we are drawing in warm air. 0n wednesday, our front will sit in the south of england. despite the extra cloud and rain, that is where we have higher temperatures. bright sunshine is further north, temperatures a little bit lower, 13 in glasgow, quite respectable for the time of year. further north on thursday, the sun breaking through in the south, we can get to 20 degrees. always cooler in the northern half of the british isles. as we get to the end of the week and the weekend, and we pull our weather front doorway to the cell, it opens the floodgates to the north—westerly wind, bringing a bit cool down as we head to the weekend. temperatures rising for a bit this week, but then they will head downward as we get towards the weekend. that is all from me for now. the prime minister tells mps of important progress in brexit talks, despite labour taunts that it was "no clearer" what the uk has agreed to so far. theresa may insisted the uk had
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ambitious and positive proposals and that a deal on citizens‘ rights was close. i believe that by approaching these negotiations in a constructive way in a spirit of co—operation, we will deliver the best possible outcome that works for all our people. it comes amid claims that mrs may pleaded with the european commission president for help last week, and was nervous and discouraged. jean—claude juncker today denied being the source of the story. we‘ll bring you the latest from westminster. a new charge for owners of older, polluting cars to drive into london. they‘ll have to pay almost twice as much from today. with hundreds of thousands of rohingya muslim refugees
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