happened. and you know my wife just heard the army, as the announcement was made, the armyjust started to chant, there was such excitement about the army, in the army. everyone here together celebrating. good to talk to you. yes, everyone celebrating, black and white, young and old and people from all different political persuasions. that is the latest on this momentous day. back to you in the studio. with me is a relative of robert mugabe. and former adviser to morgan tsvangirai. thank you for being here on this momentous day. just a quick reaction, a headline thought from you both on the developments today. well after 37 years and the rule of

one man, it is important for people to look to the future. 1980, we had independence day and today is freedom day and i think this is the thing that has united the country and we should take advantage of this moment and move zimbabwe forward. alex, we surprised, we have seen is edging towards this moment but in the end we surprised that the facade drop so quickly crumbled. absolutely. president mugabe has beenin absolutely. president mugabe has been in charge for a long time and presided over zimbabwe and ruled with an iron fist. many people ended up with an iron fist. many people ended up believing he would stay forever. the way in which his regime crumbled in the past seven days was incredible. i thought he would put up incredible. i thought he would put up more resistance. of course he tried to fight, he is a stubborn man but in the end the so much against

him that there was no chance. how humiliating was it for him in the end, he lost the army, he lost the people, he lost the party. even impeachment proceedings starting before the resignation letter. i'm certain that it would have come to this because i would expect it this. whatever happened up until now, this is the founding father of the nation and he championed the land redistribution exercise and we have 85% literacy levels in the country because of the policies he championed. in the end he went wrong but we should be able to take away the bad things he has done and he has probably done more good. you say things that went wrong, that includes, he is a founding father but the legacy as a country where there has been great brutality in

securing this regime and an economy in absolute rule. it is a mixed bag but we to appreciate... it is a disaster. looking to his popularity in the whole of africa he is a very respected ban mainly because he championed the land we distribution exercise. most african leaders are scared to touch the land issue but he was the first to step in and do that. so for that there is respect especially in africa. no one can ta ke especially in africa. no one can take away that from him. mandela was a great leader but he did not touch the land in south africa and that is something the south africans must deal with. so that defines his legacy. would you agree with that in terms of that assessment of his legacy? well he was in power for 37 yea rs legacy? well he was in power for 37 years and you will find things that may be positive but the majority of things he did wear really negative and from the position of those who

are fighting for democracy and change i think the reason why a lot of people including those in the ruling party and in the opposition we re ruling party and in the opposition were united in the end was because of the legacy that he has left which was very divisive and distracted. and he really did not show any clue as to how the two run the economy. just all those negative elements of the regime, this was a regime that was propped up by the army, they're still there, it was run by zanu pf and they're still there so you have and they're still there so you have a new president who will come tomorrow or thursday but how much real difference will there be? as we a lwa ys real difference will there be? as we always say, mugabe was a man who was in charge of the system, there is a systemic problem that needs to be dealt with in zimbabwe, it will not change overnight. we hope it will change. you need to have hope. but we we re change. you need to have hope. but we were there in 1980, they inherited a system which was so

oppressive, and they continued with that system and made it even worse. do you expect mugabe to stay in zimbabwe or perhaps have his final daysin zimbabwe or perhaps have his final days in south africa? there is no reason why he cannot stay in zimbabwe, he's done the honourable thing and step down and he still commands great respect in zimbabwe and outside zimbabwe. so at the end of the day he has done the honourable thing and step down and people should look at that in a positive light. well they're looking at it and those are the scenes that that has triggered on the streets in harare. thank you both. as we close this particular part of the programme by staying with these live pictures. the day robert mugabe resigned after 37 years. that letter of resignation read out in parliament triggering wild scenes of i°y parliament triggering wild scenes of

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