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tswangirai is morgan tsvangirai is calling for is correct, until there are free and fair elections in zimbabwe who must be careful about being too jubilant. on the story got context, this is a very significant day, isn't it?l huge moment for the moment said, this is a land that had so much promise, still a lot of resources. quite a talented population in many respects and you can see the excitement and the jubilation. the military, this is the softest crew we've seen of this kind, an example to the rest of africa if they can have lived correctly —— the softest coup. there has been a lot of intimidation and violence in the life of the modern zimbabwe. if this transition can happen reasonably peacefully, it is an open question as to how much justice peacefully, it is an open question as to how muchjustice needs peacefully, it is an open question as to how much justice needs to
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peacefully, it is an open question as to how muchjustice needs to be done. whether, behind—the—scenes, since we had that extraordinary press conference on sunday, the non—amazing nation —— non—resignation conference, has he got protection and is the immune from prosecution? it is up to the people of zimbabwe what they will tolerate. if he has got it it is going to leave a sour taste in the malls of the many victims of his regime over the last 37 years. let's reflect on it. the pictures are so beautiful. the i's front page, have you ever seen a beautiful. the i's front page, have you ever seen a great beautiful. the i's front page, have you ever seen a great expression of j°y you ever seen a great expression of joy than the guy from the pale blue t—shirt? joy than the guy from the pale blue t-shirt? it is an amazing optic, it is one of hope. zimbabwe has a young
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population, actually well. great hope and expectation for the future but i think morgan tsvangirai is going to be a really important figure. in a way he is the man who symbolises the brutality of what went before. morgan tsvangirai survived three attempts on his life including somebody coming into his office, hitting him across the head with a bar and trying to throw him out of the window. he is going to be somebody, he is like the physical embodiment of somebody who pushed back against the regime. the pictures are very arresting but i would urge a bit of caution in the sense that we have to see, it is no good replacing one dictatorship with another one. moving ahead to the guardian which has the same image on the front page you raise the issue briefly what happens mr mugabe. there is a line on the guardian's
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coverage, the generals are yet to comment on his fate and one of the uncertainties amid the talk of succession and maybe a democratic process , succession and maybe a democratic process, what will happen to him? absolutely, zanu— pf process, what will happen to him? absolutely, zanu—pf appeared to have quickly moved behind the military. quite orchestrated in many senses so maybe there is more of a plan than we realise. we focus a lot on the human rights issues associated with the regime but the big thing that has brought it to the climax we are witnessing is the economic failure, the complete economic failure, basket case, as ayesha said. it is an opportunity for the west, we have some historic involvement in the country. i think we do. anything to how the transition. these people have hope at the moment. the universities haven't been paid. if
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we can help in the investment. so often we think of africa as a struggling continent but country after country has been moving forward , after country has been moving forward, improvements in literacy, improvements in child mortality etc and now perhaps zimbabwe willjoin the success story. absolutely, africa is the market to watch in terms of its infrastructure and telecommunications, that is improving but interesting to see what the leaders surrounding zimbabwe do as well, particularly south africa. jacob zuma was due there tomorrow, i don't know if he will go in the light of events. would be delighted if he went altogether! easy for us to say in the west that you must have a huge trial, but it must be for them to
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decide and it may be that there has been so much are people and there has been so much bloodshed they don't want to risk a huge uprising because he still quite popular in zimbabwe despite these pictures. there are many people who think of him fondly as the person who liberated zimbabwe from the evil empire. ina liberated zimbabwe from the evil empire. in a way i think that other leaders around may also encourage this to be as calm as possible without increasing tensions. one more image before we talk about other matters, the front page of the daily telegraph. if you thought that the man in the blue t—shirt we showed you a moment ago was the happiest man in zimbabwe, maybe this one wearing a suit and that wide—eyed look is running him close! looks like he's going to explode with happiness. made's budget war
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with happiness. made's budget war with hammond: the evil they budget. by with hammond: the evil they budget. by the time people —— the eve before the budget. by the time people read it it will be the day of the budget. would hammond be pleased if the mugabe news had happened tomorrow? it could have been drowned out or is he glad to get the attention tomorrow? time will tell. philip hammond, i don't think i breaking an exclusive here... feel hammond, i don't think i breaking an exclusive here. . . feel free hammond, i don't think i breaking an exclusive here... feel free to do that. he's not the most exciting chancellor or politician we've ever had. and of course conservative mps are not the happiest people and they are not the happiest people and they are hoping for something special from the chancellor. there seem to be some interesting ideas, for example encouraging maths teaching, very worthy and important but not
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the kind of idea or proposal that i think will really change conservative fortunes. the story in the daily telegraph is that theresa may seems to be anxious that hammond isn't going to delivered the game changer. and she may run out of patience with him if he doesn't.l reach of all that she might choose rather than those that have been forced on her. i come from a party where the leader and the chancellor used to fight a lot and it doesn't make for happy politics. going into most budgets you get a lot of pitch rolling and atmospherics forehand. what people have been saying so far about mr hammond. before a budget he will do a lot of media on the sunday. the worst budget build—up in history. never had it though good
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apparently. people say that it is going to be uninspiring. what it looks like is that the knives are out for him. they are stuck in this brexit crisis at the moment and really a budget that traditionally happens... this is what happens in since the conservatives have the election. this is a budget that is going to be quite tough but it will set the tone of a government with vision. there will be nothing of that. things like housing, we need something substantial. theresa may's conference speech didn't cut any ice with that. we are going to get something on housing? but will it be enough? also a lot of an happiness
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about the pay cap and calls for regional investment. until there is a narrative that pulls things together, this is very insubstantial. a couple of minutes left. let's sort out brexit in that time! the fc, brussels and london aiming to reach brexit divorce bill in three weeks —— the financial times. this follows the meeting earlier today, where a new figure was mooted. it was yesterday. this sounds ambitious to me. it is vital that this agreement is reached because the clock is ticking. the article 50 process is a two—year process and there is a feeling that you need an agreement to get it passed by the european parliament etc and we haven't begun the crucial trade talks yet. theresa may is
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determined to find some sort of financial offer for the european union so she can get onto the trade talks but if it is the kind of figure that has been talked about here, ithink figure that has been talked about here, i think there is going to be uproar inside the conservative party. tory mps, jacob rees mogg, robert health on already leading the calls of anxiety. forget the budget, the fireworks will come when we start getting specifics on this number. it will be the biggest test of theresa may's leadership and she's had a number of tests but this will be huge. it's difficult because theissue will be huge. it's difficult because the issue of ireland as well, the border, a massive issue which people are concerned about. tim is right about the money. a lot of people thought that we would get a lot of money back from the eu and it turns out we are going to have to pay a
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lot of money to untangle ourselves. when we get the budget we'll be told that there isn't much money around and austerity will stay. time is up. don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you to my guests and goodbye. cold air is poised to sweep back south across the uk before the start of the weekend but for now it is rather grey and damp but very mild around with the exception of northern scotland with some cold there overnight. a mild night, cloud and rain. the wind has picked up, it
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will remain blustery overnight. you can see the contrast in temperatures. cold to the far north of scotla nd temperatures. cold to the far north of scotland but many will start the day in double figures. eight o'clock in the morning, we may see some bursts of rain in south—west england, south wales but most loving and will have a dry card, cloudy and breezy but mild. another rainmaker going into wales, north—west england, southern scotland. spreading to eastern parts of northern ireland. across scotland, a lot of dry weather to begin with, some rain and hill snow in the far north. the main rainmaker in this area stays around north wales, moving across more of northern england, into scotland. continued training especially across eastern parts of northern ireland. we may see 100 millimetres by the time this is finished. gail is developing into
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england and wales. some sunshine in south—east england but a very windy night, up to 70 mph on the exposed coasts and feels, some outbreaks of rain. and this is snow on thursday morning in northern scotland, even at lower levels we may see it accumulating causing travel problems. some showers moving south on thursday. still mild and sunny spells in east anglia and south—east england but beginning to turn cold in the north for more of us. the process stalls somewhat with this low pressure affecting southern part on friday. still some uncertainty about how people are going to see the rain. on saturday the cold air will complete its journey south. quite a strong wind, gales in places. many will have a dry day with sunshine but showers over northern and western areas, wintry.
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rain, yes but sleet and fail too. this is bbc news. the headlines at 11:00: zimbabwe celebrates as robert mugabe resigns as president of zimbabwe after 37 years, bringing his reign of political repression and economic chaos to an end. i robert mugabe... his letter of resignation read out in parliament prompting scenes of surprise and joy. today, it is victory, it is the tree in our hearts, it is the tree for oui’ in our hearts, it is the tree for our children. —— victory. in other news, police reveal dozens of prosecutions have been dropped after claims that thousands of test results were tampered with at a forensics laboratory. the dup leader arlene foster says northern ireland's border
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