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into a transforming jerusalem into a forgery. this is a palestinian city and as such belongs to the palestinians. the palestinian people. you cannot say i will choose where i want my capital. i would like to conquer england and take over london and make it my capital, but israel has taken overjerusalem by warand but israel has taken overjerusalem by war and annexed it illegally. it isa by war and annexed it illegally. it is a palestinian city, they do not have the right or freedom to make their capital. what can you actually do about it? in reality? in reality, what we should do is go to the international community, israel must be held accountable, this impunity has to stop, this total disregard of international justice stop, this total disregard of internationaljustice has to stop, this american collusion, and i am not saying all americans, there are many people all over the world to understand the requirements of peace, but obviously this president
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thinks he can make his mark and his distinctiveness by destroying the very chance of peace and subjecting the whole region to greater instability, violence and feeding extremism and terrorism. this is absolutely a responsible position. quick final thought, just a sentence two, at the end trump said parents would be heading to the region if various delegates are sent to try to move peace “— various delegates are sent to try to move peace —— donald trump said mike pence would be heading to the region. those conversations you have now? mike pence has been talking about god's well, not politics, he is talking political dogma and exegesis. my god did not tell me what his god told him, i belong to the oldest christian tradition in the oldest christian tradition in the world i do believe the world has to be unjust to the palestinians. we are the original christians, we are the owners of the land, we have been here for centuries. how dare they
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come here and give me biblical treatises and absolutist positions. if you monster. politics, legality, humanity, morality, he will find people. if he wants to tell me this is ordained, what the bible told me, i think he should go pitch in a church rather than talk politics. the issue now is not too was coming to visit but what the message is, what is the policy, what is the commitment and so far it is extremely discouraging, extremely disheartening and extremely dangerous. we will leave it there. thanks very much for being here. i wa nt to ta ke thanks very much for being here. i want to take you now to new york and the un to show you live pictures there. as well as a bass who we are expecting to hear from, there. as well as a bass who we are expecting to hearfrom, we there. as well as a bass who we are expecting to hear from, we are also expecting to hear from, we are also expecting to hear from, we are also expecting to hear from the secretary general of the un. cameras are all set up because we are expecting the secretary general to make comments after listening to what donald trump had to say. listening and watching still with me is lisa. i will hold
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off there, you can see the secretary general mood toward the podium. let's cross over. from day one, the secretary general of the united nations, i have consistently spoken out against any yuta jerusalem is a final status issues. it must be resolved through direct negotiations between the two parties, on the basis of the releva nt parties, on the basis of the relevant security council and assembly resolutions. taking into account the legitimate concerns of both the palestinian and israeli sides will stop i understand the deep attachment thatjerusalem holds in the hearts of so many people. it has been the sofa centuries, it will
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a lwa ys has been the sofa centuries, it will always be. —— it has been so for centuries. i want to make it clear, there is no alternative to the two state solution. there is no plan b. it is only by realising the vision of two states, living side by side in peace, security and mutual recognition, with jerusalem in peace, security and mutual recognition, withjerusalem as the capital of israel and palestine, and all final status issues resolved permanently, so negotiations that leaves legitimate aspirations of life pupils will achieved. —— legitimate aspirations of both peoples. i will do everything in my power to support the israeli and palestinian leaders to return to meaningful negotiations and to realise this vision of a lasting peace for both peoples. thank you.
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every statement from the secretary general but he could not be any clearer, he said jerusalem is a final status issues, he said from day one when he took office he urged against unilateral moves, said there is no alternative to a two state solution, no plan b. listening with me here, our correspondent. respond to that, first of all. pretty clear and to the point. and perfectly timed, just when the world is trying to make sense of this historic announcement by president trump we have the head of the world's most important for the spelling out for us important for the spelling out for us what is the recognised international position. jerusalem is a final status issue, in other words it's not up for one country or another to make the final decision about the ownership ofjerusalem. interestingly, he talks to that sense of attachment, he uses the word anxiety. at this moment of
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anxiety, underlining again that there is no alternative to a two state solution. compare that to come's words. a two state solution if both sides agree. we have two very different perspectives tonight, and they matter. deeply. the last two adjectives used, disheartening and dangerous. you could use those same words when he spoke, both sides feel such a deep attachment to jerusalem. did what we hear from the secretary general pick straightaway what we heard from the president, he took them at a recognition of reality, specific boundaries, the city would remain status to the final status agreement. don't answer that because the israeli prime minister isjust that because the israeli prime minister is just speaking now. let's hear what he has to say... to touch its golden stones, to walk its hallowed streets. it is rare to be able to speak of new engineering
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milestones in the glorious history of this city. in today's pronouncement by president trump, it is such an occasion. we are profoundly grateful for the president for his courageous and just decision, to recognise jerusalem is the capital of israel, and to prepare for the opening of the us embassy here. this decision reflects the president's commitment to an agent but enduring truth. to fulfilling his promises, and to advancing peace. the president's decision is an important step towards peace. for there is no peace that does not includejerusalem as the capital of the state of israel. i call on all countries that seek peace tojoin the i call on all countries that seek peace to join the united states i call on all countries that seek peace tojoin the united states in recognising jerusalem as is real‘s capital, and to move their embassies here. i share president trump's commitment to advancing peace between israel and all our neighbours, including the palestinians. this has been our goal
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since ourfirst day, palestinians. this has been our goal since our first day, and we will continue to work with the president and his team to make that dream of peace come true. i also want to make clear there will be no change whatsoever to the status quo at the holy sites. israel will always ensure freedom of worship for dues, christians and muslims alike. president trump, thank you for today's historic decision, to recognise israel as —— to recognise jerusalem as israel's capital. the jewish state and thejewish people will be forever grateful. that was israel's prime minister describing this as a historic day. your thoughts on what the secretary general was saying and what the israeli prime minister was saying? the secretary general of the united nations spoke with a broad international community, against the backdrop of decades of un
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resolutions, decades of peacemaking, failed peacemaking that peacemaking nonetheless, wherejerusalem is one of the most, if not the most emotional issue in the final status issues that have to be resolved. prime minister netanyahu spoke as the leader of the state of israel, and expressed his profound gratitude for himself and from the people of israel. very grateful, he said. those are the two realities tonight. but there is more than one side. he's has to be made between two pupils. one side feels very aggrieved and angry tonight, another feels grateful. that's not fertile terrain to try to move forward. as a backdrop, thank you. once again, it's only about half analysis we heard from donald trump, making the announcement. such a stark move from traditional us foreign policy. let's
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play again for you, in case you missed it earlier, what the president hasjust missed it earlier, what the president has just announced at the white house. in 1995, congress adopted the jerusalem embassy act. urging the federal government to relocate the american embassy to jerusalem, federal government to relocate the american embassy tojerusalem, and to recognise that the city, and so importantly, is israel's capital. this act passed congress by an overwhelming bipartisan majority, and was reaffirmed by unanimous vote of the senate, only six months ago. yet for over 20 years, every previous american president has exercised the laws waver, refusing to move the us embassy tojerusalem, or to recognise jerusalem to move the us embassy tojerusalem, or to recognisejerusalem as israel's capital city. residents
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issued these waivers under the belief that delaying the recognition ofjerusalem would advance the cause ofjerusalem would advance the cause of peace. some say they lacked courage, but they made their best judgment. based on facts, as they understood them at the time. nevertheless, the record is in. after more than two decades of waivers, we are now closer to a lasting peace agreement between israel and the palestinians. it would be folly to assume that repeating the exact same formula would now produce a different for better result. therefore, i have determined that it is time to officially recognise jerusalem determined that it is time to officially recognisejerusalem as the capital of israel. while previous presidents have made this a major campaign promise, they failed
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to deliver. today, i am delivering. i havejudged this to deliver. today, i am delivering. i have judged this course of action to be in the best interests of the united states of america, and the pursuit of peace between israel and the palestinians. this is a long overdue step to advance the peace process and to work towards a lasting agreement. that was the us president in the last half an hour. more reaction, and emmanuel macron has said this decision is reg retta ble, has said this decision is regrettable, and france does not approve of and goes against international law, and all the resolutions of un security council. he hasjust said resolutions of un security council. he has just said that to reporters in paris. turkey's foreign minister has described the move from the american president as irresponsible. let's go to the white house and barbara platt usher who was there for us. listening there to the
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president described why he is making this move, what is in it for donald trump? well, i think the key line of that speech was previous presidents failed to deliver on campaign promises, i am delivering. failed to deliver on campaign promises, iam delivering. i failed to deliver on campaign promises, i am delivering. i think thatis promises, i am delivering. i think that is what this is all about, he had promised during his campaign to his pro—israel voters that he would move on embassy tojerusalem and he would recognise jerusalem move on embassy tojerusalem and he would recognisejerusalem as the capital, and now he's doing it. it was notable how many times he said during a speech that other presidents had also made that promise but they never did it. but he was doing it. that is the main impetus here. he also went to some lengths to say this did not mean that the us on—the—job administration was departing from the peace process, all from its plans to mediate the peace deal. he went on at some length about how the us was deeply committed to that, and he made a point of saying that the
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final status ofjerusalem he made a point of saying that the final status of jerusalem is he made a point of saying that the final status ofjerusalem is not affected by this announcement. the us was not taking any position on that. and that it would accept a two state solution if that's what both sides wanted. he made that very clear. then he said this could even advance the peace process, though frankly he did not say how it could, other than that recognising israel had sovereignty on the right to choose its capital was a necessary step. then prime minister netanyahu chimed in to say there is no peace that doesn't includejerusalem as the capital of the state of israel. the reaction that has come that you we re the reaction that has come that you were quoting there is quite predictable, because the concern of critics, which involves most if not all of the us allies, is that the fa ct of all of the us allies, is that the fact of doing this, making this statement, is disruptive enough to the peace process, never mind how the peace process, never mind how the presidents couched it. that move of the us embassy as well, that has
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been announced, but how likely is that to take? us officials have said it is years, not months, and it will ta ke it is years, not months, and it will take at least three or four years because they are planning to build a new building. that has to meet security requirements uncertain if you are moving a us embassy to jerusalem that will have to meet security requirements, so what mr trump talked about was action, there we re trump talked about was action, there were going to start hiring engineers and architects in that sort of thing. he wants to make sure he gives the message that movement is going to happen. in actualfact, you probably won't see much change on the ground for a while. the administration officials are banking on that for this too may blow over, there will be, they were expecting opposition, but if no building an actual change on the ground happens for while, perhaps things will settle down. there is not actually a peace plan to produce at this moment. it would have made more sense, many here in washington feel, if trump had made this announcement
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as part of a peace plan but he did not. there is not want to present, so if the palestinians say, that's it, we're not taking part, there is nothing for them to drop out of. perhaps the peace plan comes they will have changed their minds. that is part of the calculation as well. it isa is part of the calculation as well. it is a pretty classic trumped political move, how much support do you think there was saved, in the state department for this? not very much, i don't think. it was the state department responsible for staffing, maintaining and securing the emphases. we understand that the secretary of state and officials within the department express their opposition to this move largely on security grounds because they were concerned, as others have expressed, that this would trigger a backlash. they of course responsible for protecting us citizens and diplomats, and that was a concern to them. in the state department, they had them. in the state department, they ha d co nta cts them. in the state department, they had contacts and dealings on the
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peace process for many years, who are acutely aware ofjust how sensitive issue this is. there was opposition from that department. stay there, i will be back to you in a moment or two, stay there, i will be back to you in a moment ortwo, ijust stay there, i will be back to you in a moment or two, ijust want to update viewers because reactions coming in all of the time since we have had that announcement. hamas has just been speaking, and saying that donald trump's decision to recognise jerusalem as that donald trump's decision to recognisejerusalem as israel's capital would open the gates of hell on us interests in the region, making that announcement, calling on arab and islamic states to cut off economic and political ties with the us embassy and expel american ambassadors to cripple this decision. those on their quotes, in keeping with what you would expect from hamas. you have a sense of it towards the end of donald trump's speech, where he was urging calm. he knew there would be a backlash. he
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knew there would be a backlash. he knew there would be, and we heard from the education minister of israel who said they expect friction, was the word used in the short—term, but that he hoped in the long term this would move the region closer to peace. tonight a lot of people are expressing doubt about that, that it moves even further away. there is no peace process, just this idea that president trump's team including his son—in—law trump's team including his son—in—lanared kushner trump's team including his son—in—law jared kushner and the prominent real estate lawyer are making progress. we are hearing from palestinians and jordanians that they felt there were some slow progress, that trump was listening, they knew it would be a slow process but i thought at least there was an effort to try to listen to all sides. —— they thought. announcing today thatjerusalem is the capital of israel, that the embassy will be moving tojerusalem, of israel, that the embassy will be moving to jerusalem, will of israel, that the embassy will be moving tojerusalem, will be seen by the palestinians, arabs and allies of the us, that president trump is only listening to one side. you
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cannot be seen as the peacemaker if you are not listening to all sides. since we heard from the president, it's worth re—capping, because it is difficult to exaggerate the significance of what he has just announced. we have to keep reminding ourselves, jerusalem is notjust a city, it's not a piece of land, this is not just an city, it's not a piece of land, this is notjust an embassy building. jerusalem is invested with so much significance, sacred significance, not just to the three faiths who have sites holy to their faith in jerusalem, in the old city, it is an emotional issue for many people, it has resonated through the centuries, down through history, it touches the heart and is at the heart of so many of the world's issues. it is why you have the pope also speaking today. jerusalem symbolises so much and many people want to seejerusalem this eternal city which brings
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people together, but tonight it is being seen as a city which is people apart. bringing it back to the white house, when we were talking earlier with a various contributors to the programme, people have tried to make the point that perhaps donald trump will change his mind, that is most unlikely given what we have seen with this announcement, isn't it? well, he has recognised israel, jerusalem, as the capital of israel, that in itself is a significant decision. whether the embassy gets moved there or not, that is maybe just as disturbing to the palestinians and arab leaders as if there was a transfer or a building being made. he has basically said that the us has overturned decades of policy, and in the view of the
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