tv Newsnight BBC News December 6, 2017 11:15pm-12:00am GMT
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he's also accused of helping his co—defendant, mohammed aqib imran, to prepare terrorist acts. it's claimed he was planning to travel abroad to join is fighters. yesterday, the head of mi5 briefed the cabinet about the security situation. nine islamist—inspired plots are said to have been thwarted this year. the next hearing in this latest case will be in two weeks‘ time. june kelly, bbc news. that's a summary of the news, newsday is coming up at midnight. now on bbc news, it's time for newsnight with emily. they all told him not to. the united nations, the eu, even the pope. in gaza they reacted with anger. but trump insists it's the right thing to do. i have determined that it is time to officially recognisejerusalem as the capital of israel. an ancient city at the heart of a centuries old conflict is thrust back into the spotlight
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as the palestinians says it's deplorable. and the turkish president warns trump his decision could plunge the region back into a fire with no end. we speak to the israeli ambassador to the uk, and also to key voices from the region. also tonight: this spoof fundraiser shows africa donating radiators to help norway stay warm. as uk celebrities run to the aid of christmas charity causes, are we guilty of poverty porn? we'll ask whether these campaigns do more harm than good. and remember the rave days of the 1980s and ‘90s? then you probably weren't there. steve smith was, constantl, and tonight he tries to remember shoom with some of the big names from the scene. you're watching newsnight,
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and a little later this evening, we're going to be talking about the history of dance music in the uk and around the world. it mightjust go a little bit pete tong. good evening. what the middle east needs now, said no one ever, is something to make the regions politics more complicated. america's president seems to have missed the memo. this evening, donald trump confirmed a campaign pledge, the recognition ofjerusalem as the capital of israel, a symbolic statement fraught with practical implications. in a tightly—scripted address he said he would build the us embassy in that city, insisting he was acting in the pursuit of peace between israel and the palestinians and that the us supported a two state solution if agreed by both sides. he was warmly thanked by israel's prime minister. fury from many on the other side. tonight, we ask what the ramifications of this move are likely to be. but we start with this report by gabriel gatehouse. jerusalem is many
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things to many people. a place that embodies the shared heritage of the world's great civilisations and a city whose ancient walls have long been an incubator for their festering divisions. today, donald trump walked into this most treacherous of minefields, and pledged to shake things up... when i came into office i promised to look at the world's challenges. with open eyes, and very fresh thinking. we cannot solve our problems by making the same failed assumptions and repeating the same failed strategies of the past. his announcement was anticipated with foreboding in the middle east but there were hints he may be aiming at an audience closer to home. therefore i am determined that it is time to officially recognise jerusalem as the capital of israel. while previous presidents have made
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this a major campaign promise, they failed to deliver. today, i am delivering. if donald trump's motivation was born in part out of the desire to deliver on the pledges of 2016, then the ramifications of this announcement reach further back in history. in 1948 when thejewish state was born, israel proclaimed jerusalem its capital but on the ground, the city was divided into western and eastern sectors. israel in control of the west, and jordan the east, including the old city. then came the war in 1967. in six days, the same time it took the gold of the old testament
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to create the world, israel in the middle east. israel seized the eastern part of the city and expanded the city limits. the palestinians want to see occupied territory become the future of an independent state. today's announcement has, in fact, been a long time coming. in 1995 congress passed an act requiring the us government to move it embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. since then, every six months every president has deferred that move on the grounds of national security but today, president obama's successor promised to put an end to that. this is nothing more or less than a recognition of reality. it is also the right thing to do. it is something that has to be done. this is nothing more or less than a recognition of reality. with that, at a stroke, and many diplomats fear that america's crucial role as a peace broker has been fatally undermined. much of the statement will leave a sense of vacancy and many in europe and across the arab world
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will wonder where the process goes next, and whether america, particularly under president trump, is committed to a genuine and fair to state solution. is committed to a genuine and fair two state solution. donald trump said that america was. the united states would support a two state solution. if agreed to by both sides. i think there was evidence that some of those diplomats, who have been trying to reduce the negative impact of this announcement, did get to work on that text. there was some reassurance for the palestinians who want to return to pre—1967 borders. we are not taking a position of any final status issues. including the specific boundaries of the israeli sovereignty injerusalem or the resolution of contested borders. but it does not really negate what is still a very dangerous announcement at a delicate time for the middle east.
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the sad thing is, many of those extremists across the region will be the ones celebrating this in the morning. donald trump has sent his young son—in—law, jared kushner, to the middle east in search of what he calls the ultimate deal. we want an agreement that is a great dealfor the israelis and a great deal for the palestinians. i would be the first one to celebrate if there is a superbly crafted strategy behind this announcement. but i won't be holding my breath. we hear a lot about donald trump being a great deal maker and certainly in his book he says you've got to hold back many of the strongest cards you got. it looks like he's played one of those cards a little too early. that was gabriel gatehouse. in a moment we will hear from the israeli ambassador mark regev and the palestinian academic ghada karmi. although we're not expecting to resolve the regions issues here in the newsnight studio,
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so they'll not be debating head to head. but first, our diplomatic editor, mark urban, is here. what surprised you most about donald trump's announcement? i think that given there was that nod towards the two state solution and the statement from the president that it was not intended to prejudice issues, it could go he could have acknowledged the idea to have the capital in east jerusalem. it could have been something he did. it's been many years since the diplomatic game was about an international solution forjerusalem, a zone to be ruled by the international community. for decades it's been about the two state solution and everyone who has worked on that problem, every diplomat i have spoken to for 30 years on this knows that the palestinian state without its capital in eastjerusalem is not a viable solution to the conflict. and what do you make of those internationally showing support
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for the move? there have been one or two, interestingly, and going back to that point the czech republic, for example, today said that they would follow the american lead and move its embassy to jerusalem. they also mentioned the palestinian aspiration for a capital in east jerusalem. the philippines followed suit but by and large the reaction is negative. the uk said they will not move their embassy, many other european countries taking a similar tone and will see if others join in with the czech republic and the philippines in the coming days. mark urban, thank you. let's pick up with our guests, let me start with ghada karmi, donald trump is right when he says the old way is broken and there's no point in repeating the same formula and you've got to reach out to new solutions? he isn't right can he does not know anything about it. what the middle east does not need right now is a president like donald trump.
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the reality is the american president has endorsed an illegal situation. israel is in illegal occupation of arab jerusalem, and its sovereignty over westjerusalem is not recognised by the international community. that is a legal fact. now, donald trump has chosen to violate international law by endorsing something very illegal, which is israeli controlled sovereignty overjerusalem, calling itself the capital, this kind of thing. this is very bad. when he says he is deeply committed to peace, when he says that this is nothing more than a recognition of reality, do you not have faith that this is the first step of what could be a solution? no, of course not! first of all, it does not acknowledge that the palestinians have any rights. i noticed your commentator
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mark urban talking about aspiration. palestinians have a right to the city. i was born in giroud slim and an part of the indigenous people ofjerusalem. i am a native ofjerusalem. —— i was born injerusalem. the fact that the united states president cannot bring himself to mention palestinian rights in the city is appalling. that's the first problem. the second problem is we know that donald trump is not a free agent. he is surrounded by pro—israel advisers, pro israel officials... to be fair the american stance towards israel has not differed particularly from one president to another. no, because it has always been dictated by israeli interests. so he cannot broker peace, or america cannot broker peace? of course not, he is compromised. he is surrounded by pro israel began discuss —— propaganda, and he cannot
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operate as a free agent, even if he had the will to do it. i want to talk about the practicalities now. he said he is calling on both sides to respect the status quo. how should mahmoud abbasi respond and how should young palestinian men respond if they feel upset by what they have heard tonight? —— mahmood abbas. should they legitimately protest or work towards the two state solution he talked about? there's no two state solution to talk about, if they have gone out of the equation, i don't know how they should but i know how they feel. they will protest, they are angry and they have every right to be angry. what is dangerous about this, because it's bad enough that it is illegal, it is bad enough that trump is influenced by all kinds of people... i'm talking about the practicalities.
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do the moderates just give up? listen, it isn't about moderates, please let me be clear. this is about a whole people who have rights in that city. of course they are angry. of course they will protest. nobody should be surprised. why i think this is so dangerous, is because one of the first things that might happen, and watch for this, is that israel would be emboldened to take over the islamic holy places, it has had its eye on the mosque in the city for a long time. if they take it over now with a lot of new self—confidence, watch what happens. let me put some of those points over to mark regev. thank you. hard to think of a more provocative
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way to hunt for peace and this is this area, is it a joke? way to hunt for peace and this is this area, is it ajoke? i beg way to hunt for peace and this is this area, is it a joke? i beg to disagree. this was a just move for peace. because there is an international norm. everybody respects it. a norm? the eu doesn't, the pope doesn't... the un doesn't. let me make my point, there is a norm that it has respected every country's right to choose their capital. that's the sovereign right of every country on the planet. there are countries, as you know, emily, who have changed their capital cities. turkey, china... you know how provocative the move is. why are we denied the right to choose our own capital city? a right every country on this planet has. so you can call it what you want, the palestinians can call it what they want, my question is, from what you have seen so far of donald trump, what makes you think that he is a classy peace broker?
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what makes you think that he is committed to solving the world's crisis, that he has a firm grip on international relations? do you want to tie your country's future to him as a peace broker? i would urge you to look at this decision the substance is positive. he says he is committed to a two state solution and a peace process and he's done that by deeply offending and inflaming relations in that part of the world. let's stop for a moment. the palestinians and the arab world say that they recognise israel within the 1967 boundaries and so we all know that jerusalem has been the capital of israel since 1949. why is there a problem with recognising jerusalem as the capital of israel? it is extraordinary that you put that question to me. you know this area, you know the complexities inside out. you have a responsibility, don't you, to tell him that he is wrong? don't you think it would be more important to not look at the
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short term gains and to get the longer term peace process right? we all have a responsibility to get it right and what is the fact? that the israeli government sits in jerusalem, our supreme court is there. when foreign leaders sit there, they come to jerusalem. when foreign diplomats meet with their counterparts, they come to jerusalem. you do not acknowledge how much offence it has caused to palestinian residents. now, you heard what she just said, that it would embolden israelis to forget the two state solution and the sanctity of the mosque and all of that. this is where you think israel can claim whatever it wants. my prime minister said just two hours ago that we will maintain the holy sites and continued to keep the status quo and the religious rights of all people.
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you need to do more than that. it is about respecting people who call that their home and assert their claim to it. so what is the olive branch now that the israeli government has to offer to palestinians to recognise that this is something they do not consider fair? let's be clear what's fair and legal. you cannot have peace without jerusalem being israel's capital, and those on the palestinian side who have these dangerous fantasies that somehow we are going to throw all of the jews out ofjerusalem, that is a nonstarter. president trump has drawn a line in the sand today to say that it is time for the palestinians to recognise that the jewish people have rights to our own capital city and it isjust and good for peace. we will pick up those thoughts.
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congressmen lee zeldin is republican member of the foreign affairs committee in the us and co—chairman of the house republican israel caucus. ilnur cevik is chief advisor to the turkish president, recep tayyip erdogan. very nice to have you here. the onus is now on the palestinians, according to mark regev, is on the palestinians to move on and accept the peace. what do you say to that? it takes two to dance. if you do not extend an olive branch to the palestinians, what can you ask from them? what can you expect from them? it's a very hard thing to turn to these people and say, jerusalem is the capital, finished. now, if they had said, fine, westjerusalem, we have the capital of israel, the palestinians have a right for
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eastjerusalem to be their capital. so as a key player in the region, what does turkey do now? how do you face this new reality? well, turkey is frustrated, deeply frustrated, because turkey feels that while it wants to maintain relations with israel, for the sake of the palestinians, it is becoming harder and harder for turkey to maintain a kind of plausible relationship with israel. the turkish president has already said, we may even sever ties. do you think that will happen now? turkey may downgrade its relations. i don't know. it depends how the situation develops. would you be as bold with your relations with the us now?
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well, turkey has already announced that it rejects the us decision. the turkish parliament, for the first time, all the parties have come together, the kurds and the left wing, everybody, for the first time in nearly ten years, they have come together to denounce the american decision, and this shows it's not only recep tayyip erdogan, but its across—the—board, all parties, who are hugely against the turkish government, the opposition, have come together to reject this decision. you heard the voice in our film earlier saying that this is a victory for extremists, who can ride roughshod over moderate views now and say, we have to respond to this in the only way we see fit. what do you have to do, as a key player in the region, to make sure it doesn't inflame?
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by severing relations, you are ducking out, right? the turkish president has said that this is one of the options. he didn't say it was going to happen. you are his chief adviser. what will you be advising him tonight? our advice will be that we need a kind of leverage on israel. some form of leverage is needed there. however, the palestinians have a right, and when you do not answer to the demands of moderate palestinians who want peace, who wantjust their rights, who wantjerusalem, who have been born injerusalem, to say, this is my home. if they are denied those rights, we are all playing into the hands of the radicals.
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ilnur cevik, thank you for coming in. let's pick up now with lee zeldin, member of the republican foreign affairs committee. you have got the pope against you, the un, the eu, and most countries. do you have any qualms about what your president has done tonight? i strongly support the president's decision. it is a fact that the capital of israel is jerusalem. this is where the israeli knesset is located. the offices and homes of the israeli prime minister and president, the supreme court. we need to all be honest with each other, the fact is that the capital of israel is jerusalem. the geographical niceties seem to overlook what a precarious position this has put israel and the palestinians in this evening. well, i would say what really
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complicates things the most is when you have palestinian terrorists murdering innocent israelis. just yesterday, the house of representatives passed a taylor force act. taylor force was a graduate of the united states military academy of west point who was brutally murdered by palestinian terrorists. and you think this will help? i think it is a huge issue that needs to be addressed. on the one side you have a party trying to promote peace, and on the other, you are treating terrorists as heads of state and financially rewarding terrorism. you have a president who tries to ban muslims of certain countries even coming into the us. do you think he has the right man to broker peace in israel, in the middle east? peace is going to be negotiated on the ground, regardless of who the president is at any time.
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it's going to be important that whoever is in charge of israel or the palestinian authority, that they have the ability between the two of them to negotiate peace. that has been over course of generations, not just years and decades, it has been elusive. i don't know if any single person outside of israel and that region are capable of doing this for them. it really needs to be done on the ground. so maybe he should have stayed out of it? our palestinian guest just called president trump a "know nothing american". again, the capital of israel isjerusalem. i'm not questioning that the palestinian authority is headquartered in romana. i have been there and met with the prime minister of the palestinian authority.
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i don't question that that is where they are headquartered at. there's a certain realities here. the prime minister said to my face that he would not recognise israel as a jewish state. you also have to consider the fact that if the palestinian authority leadership was in good faith negotiating a deal, let's say people are sitting down in 2018, there is an element in the palestinian authority, hamas, who will not rest until israel is wiped off the map. thank you forjoining us. theresa may found a new form a words today which may soon be adopted by school children and the work—shy world over. when asked about monday's attempted brexit deal on northern ireland she merely claimed ‘very good progress has been made'. it sounded a bit hollow in the house of commons and was met with laughter. tonight, however, there were some positive sounds coming from the irish taoiseach, leo varadkar. i agreed to examine any text that they put forward in a positive light, understanding that it is within the interests of our country
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to move to phase two. those things are important to ireland, and i want to get back to the point where we have good relations with the uk again. i would look at any text with an open mind and a positive outlook, but i emphasise the fact that when it comes to the substance and meaning of what was agreed on monday, i can't depart from that. our political editor, nick watt, is here. how will those words be greeted in downing street? important intervention, he says, i'm open to new wording, but it must be in addition to the current wording. theresa may wants to avoid what happened at the weekend when the dup were not shown the wording. she is consulting on the text and she is talking to sinn fein. but she has a very difficult balancing act. she has to win back the dup, but not in a way that sinn fein tumble out of the equation.
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it is very difficult. a dup source said this evening that the wording is toxic and has to go. another dup source said they did not like the wording and could just about envisage a situation where the existing wording stays, but the new wording would have to be dramatically in their favour for that to happen. plus, michel barnier has said, effectively, that there is 48 hours to sort this out. gosh, that clears the head. and intervention on philip hammond as well. he told the treasury select committee that it would be inconceivable for the uk not to pay its financial settlement of the uk, even if we don't have a deal. downing street came out a few hours later and said, i think not. they said the offer from the uk was contingent on getting that future trade relationship.
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a few hours earlier, david davis, the brexit secretary, confirmed that the government hadn't carried out a formal impact assessment of the consequences of brexit, and that was enough to ensure that the brexit select committee, voting on party lines, voted, but it is in not in contempt of parliament. thank you very much. every since band aid — the charity single put together by a host of a—list musicians back in 1984, we've got used to the idea of celebrities rallying around to solve world poverty. this christmas will be no different — ed sheeran, tom hardy, and eddie redmayne are all starring in adverts aimed at raising money for humanitarian crises — child malnutrition, famine, the war in yemen. their intentions are beyond reproach. they raise awareness and often millions of pounds. but there is a growing unease at the signals these videos send out — labelled "poverty porn" by their critics. one group of activists got so annoyed by the campaigns they launched their own response —
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and award for the worst. # it's time for us to give. it's africa's turn to help, croon the singers in this spoof video. the group tell of a need to highlight the plight of poor norwegians, by bringing them radiators in winter, raising awareness of their suffering in the cold. it's the work of a norwegian campaign group, who tomorrow will launch an award for the worst charity video of the year. i'm a father, and i know that many of our children in the uk are looking forward to holidays and presents right now. these children live in a far—off country... they're so tiny.
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you do see them in the day, and they're kids... on the list, three british celebrities, tom hardy, ed sheeran and eddie redmayne. these images are devastating. we had hoped to never see this again... their campaign featured the desperate plight of starving and homeless children, the kind of heartbreaking images that have long proved successful when it comes to shocking people into giving. as a simple step from us here can save lives there. the dec's yemen appeal raised £26 million. the east africa one raised more than £60 million. valuable sums that have helped enormously in the short term. # do they know it's christmas time at all?# it all began here, of course, in 1984. # feed the world...# the nearly all—white choir of band aid raised millions using a fine roster of celebrities. the campaign was astonishingly successful as a fundraiser, and as a concept, emulated consistently over the years since. despite widespread agreement
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amongst ngos in 2007, the re—emergence of poverty porn is causing concern. it cements a narrative of us and them, of the patrons and the victims. when you say context, it is that they have to offer something more than some stereotypes and simplifications. they have to show the location. they have to give a voice to the local population, and also to highlight the structural, underlying issues, for example, what are the causes for poverty? and notjust the simplified solution or a quick fix to something that has deeper roots. music: you're my best friend by queen. they prefer this sort of thing, the hope and optimism of batman. # whatever this world can give to me...# but are we becoming oversensitive? isn't it better to try and occasionally get things wrong, as long as the intentions are good
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and the money rolls in? with me now is afua hirsch, a journalist who called for an end to poverty porn in a guardian piece this week. and mark goldring, he's a trustee of the emergency fundraising group, the disasters emergency committee. he's also chief executive of 0xfam. it's very nice to have you both here. for all of your reservations, this works, this raises money, and it saves lives, why would you and pick it, afua? it depends on what you are trying to achieve, we all agree that it's important to raise awareness of humanitarian crises, i'm not suggesting we should be apathetic or stage some kind of intervention but it's a short—term solution. i know it works and shocks people and gets people to give money in the short term but in the long—term the message it sends is that these people not equal, they are others, they do not deserve the same dignity. we would never show a british child in that state of nakedness. we are not protecting
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their basic dignity. we are creating a belief with deep historical roots that these people are not agents of their own lives, we should pity them and at best we can offer them charity in their hopeless future. that is not true. i wonder if you have a sense of this, that there is a division that these kinds of adverts create? if these adverts are the main ways that we portray the developing world, it would not be right but the picture is much more complicated. what we are doing is challenging the issues that lie behind that poverty. so, we told positive stories about bangladesh, and the situation in myanmar, but there are nearlyi million people crossing the border and we have to get aid to them today. in the same way, oxfam has been challenging our own government for years on our policy in yemen, challenging the saudis and arms sales. we are saying that we also
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need practical help. there is a lot in what afua says about how these images come across. the problem is, as soon as you have a spoof like the norwegian one, and people laugh, it almost releases you from obligation. as soon as you are in that position you go, i don't want to be that person and endorse that narrative. we've seen this in campaigns, since band aid, it works as a one—off shock tactic but then people become desensitised. once you see those images of babies with flies in their eyes you lose empathy. it's a very tired formula and allows people to disengage because ultimately they do not see these people as humans... is that right? you run many different kinds of campaigns. and we communicate on complicated issues all the time. we recently put out a film on taxation and tax dodging. we put weeks into crafting that film. the average viewer watches it for about ten seconds.
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what is happening with an emergency appeal is that broadcasters are putting something together literally in hours and they want to command attention. so you have ten seconds? if the item it is you don't have enough time to offer someone basic dignity and respect... i'm not saying that, i think there is a difference between the images and the overall effect. we are not right to blame celebrities for that. we need to look at the way we edit. as an organisation, oxfam, and many like us, have strict guidelines on using those kinds of images and there are too many of them. there's also a sense that there is an emergency and we need to respond now and that urgency needs to come through. we need context and to protect the dignity of people we are dealing with, they need the same rights and treatments that we do. to both of you, thank you. who can say exactly how a cultural
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phenomenon gets started, but the acid house phenomenon in the late 1980s undoubtedly owed a good deal to a group of djs who were inspired by what they saw on the party island of ibiza. one of them was danny rampling, whose legendary club night in south london — shoom — celebrates its 30th anniversary this week. it helped to give rise to dance culture and all that it entailed: the super club, tabloid controversy over ecstasy, and the ubiquity of the ‘smiley face' emoji, that our parents always believed was just a, well, smily face. we sent stephen smith to find out: whatever happened to acid house? # just a moment # please remain in your seats... many people said it was like their church. it was their new religion. i could immediately see that this was going to be huge. i was already imagining that, in a year or two, this was going to be big over the world. # well, i need your love # i need your love...
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30 years ago, might you have been making shapes amid the dry ice and smoke of a gym in a south london basement? that‘s where dj danny rampling put a very british spin on the easy—going, inclusive vibe he‘d found in the clubs of ibiza. after you, danny. today, newsnight‘s taking rampling back to his old haunt. it‘s been a few years! it‘s now available to rent, if you‘re interested. is this very familiar? no! not at all? the entrance was around the back. he hasn‘t been back here since the club changed premises in 1989. so here we are. yes, here we are. it didn‘t look like this back then. how did it look? er... it certainly didn‘t feel as big as this as well, because there were some changing rooms in here, an office, and then a gym area at the back. this area here was
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the main dance area. here? yeah, all this area here. it looks a little bit trampled down, doesn‘t it? where did you have your dj console? it was on this side of the room, so i‘d be here with a torch in my mouth, because it was quite dark down here at times, so i could see the vinyl. waving records around and jumping around and shouting! # hey! britain had gone through the falklands war. it had gone through the rising interest rates, and it had gone through such high unemployment as well at the same time. so opportunities, particularly in working—class culture, were limited. they were pretty limited. and this came along as a reaction to that period as well. remind us who passed through here? gosh, there‘s so many. boy george was a regular here. martin fry and mark white of abc.
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dexy‘s midnight runners, kevin rowland, genesis p—0rridge, leigh bowery came down at one time. there was one time, he walked in down these stairs with his famous look with the light bulbs on, and the security guy, eric, said "light bulb chops is here." my brother said, "it‘s £5. there is no guest list in here." he said, "darling, i don‘t pay to get in anywhere!" you might never know it to look at it, but to many this is one of the most story doors in music history. within a few weeks of shoom opening 30 years ago, people were queueing right down this street in the wee small hours to join in the scene and the fun. # acid, man # acid, man... of course, the smiley face was a ‘60s symbol that they put on the third
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shoom flyer, i think it was, and caught the moment. they had happy, happy, happy banners up in the shoom, in the corridor. and it was very much like a family vibe that they had, and that‘s part of the reason that it caught the imagination of people. time out magazine‘s former nightlife editor has been in more clubs than you can shake a glow stick at. he captured the impact of shoom from the get—go. obviously, there was already a great one nighter club scene in london, manchester and elsewhere, but this shifted the balance. it was a quantum leap into the mainstream. # everybody's free... the 90s brought a boom and easy credit, and the alumni at clubs like shoom began developing a multi million pound leisure industry around super clubs and high—profile djs. dance music has infiltrated the pop tracks for a good few years now. you know, your djs are not these nameless, faceless guys in the corner of clubs.
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they are people who have vegas residencies, whose heads take up eight floors of a hotel building in terms of ad space. the djs are huge, and the culture around it is huge. vegas wouldn't put these people on if they didn't make them millions upon millions of dollars. but what‘s this? woodwind and strings on club anthems? it‘s the work of ageless turntablist pete tong and the heritage 0rchestra. it‘s very popular, but is this dance coming of age, orjust ageing? the kind of rave generation of the ‘90s clubbing phenomena that happened, that generation, this is the first time that they‘ve got old, old—er. but that doesn‘t necessarily mean that they want to slow down in terms of their musical passion. so i think it‘s definitely pulled a big chunk of those people back out again.
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i think the other thing is that it finishes early, which is good! back in south london, danny rampling‘s getting ready to mark 30 years of shoom, but not in the former gym where it all began. presumably, the people who would use this space will not necessarily know about shoom ? not unless there‘s a blue plaque outside! who knows? that may happen at some point. yeah, i walk past here, and yeah, i suppose i do get nostalgic when i pass here. well, i think we should perhaps leave before we fill up. what do you say, danny? # come into my life # i got so much love to show you # boy, i adore you # come into my life # i got so much love to show you # come into my life #
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boy, i adore you...# and with that, they left. and we must too. that‘s all we‘ve got time for. evan is with you tomorrow. goodnight. good evening. to say there‘s a lot going on with the weather over the next couple of days would be a considerable understatement. first of all we have some strong winds to deal with tomorrow. a met office amber warning across northern scotland, wind gusts in excess of 80 mph and that could well cause damage and disruption and strong winds across central scotland and into northern ireland. the wind is picking up all the while overnight wherever you are and we have this band of rain sweeping south and east. that will make for a wet and blustery start across the south—east tomorrow. as the rain clears, things will brighten up but remember those very strong winds across northern areas and with that we start to see
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wintry showers because things will be growing colder all the while and these wintry showers will become a big feature during tomorrow night so through thursday night into the early hours of friday we‘re going to season showers pushing south. a snow shower could crop up just about everywhere, in fact some good wake up everywhere, in fact some good wake up to everywhere, in fact some good wake uptoa everywhere, in fact some good wake up to a covering of snow and ice on friday morning. a bright day on friday, still some snow showers and add on the strength of the wind and it will feel subzero. so some wind and rain and then we get plunged into the deep freeze.
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