tv Through the Lens BBC News December 23, 2017 9:30pm-10:01pm GMT
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this is bbc news. our latest headlines: more than 180 people have died in a tropical storm in the southern philippines. one whole village has been buried. the sacked catalan leader carles puigdemont said he would like to be sworn in again after the regional elections last week. he is currently in exile after being charged with rebellion. the california fire has now been deemed the biggest in history. barcelona have beaten real madrid 3—0 in the first el clasico match of the season, all the goals came in the second half and barcelona are now 1a points ahead of the reigning champions in la liga. later we have a full round—up of the
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news, but now we revealed the inside stories of world changing events from photographers in new york, london and paris. welcome to our series through the lens, marking the 70th anniversary of magnum photos, with me rebecca jones. i am in london and i'll be introducing you to six of the agency's greatest photographers who will be telling us how they recorded history in the making. we'll hear from chris steele—perkins, whose pictures captured the highs and lows of britain under margaret thatcher. elliott erwitt, who photographed many of the cold war leaders. and bruce davidson, whose images of the us's civil rights movement still resonate today. first, let's meet david hurn.
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as a young man he was in the heart of london in the ‘60s and captured the glamour and grit of britain in an era of liberation and at the height of beatlemania. for the first time in the history of let's say communication, everybody loves one medium. suddenly, everybody loves photography. my approach has always been that i really don't like to set up pictures or anything. i see myselfjust as an observer of the eccentricities of life. what i call the sort of the mundane. —— it's at it of the mundane. so i spend most of my time trying to get some kind of relationship between the extraordinary following of fans they had and the beatles themselves and ijust think this is charming. there's paul on the train
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and this delightful lady. it is obvious that she is talking to somebody saying, "look who this is!" she has suddenly seen this megastar and my guess is that it's a major thing in her life. i'm sure with great tenderness she would talk about this moment to her friends for ages and ages. when she met paul, probably, you know? i like memory, i like emotion, i like love, you know, i like passion. this picture was taken in the isle of wight pop festival. bob dylan was there and joni mitchell was there and the doors and the band. people at those sorts of events seemed to lose their inhibitions, in a way. out of nowhere, somebody seemed to be able to get this sort of foam thing, you know, and you just
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need somebody spraying foam around for everybody else to take their clothes off and all sort of hug each other amongst the foam. i love seeing people that like each other. i don't care if they only like each otherfor ten minutes. the sort of things i love photographing are the things that quite a lot of other people do that i wouldn't under normal circumstances ever dream of doing. queen charlotte's balljust absolutely fascinated me. i mean, there were all these young girls, almost like a cattle market, being shoved around for all blokes to look at. it was obviously all to do with, you know, meeting the right blokes, et cetera. here we have four people, two pairs. all they are doing, as far as i can see,
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is talking to each other, but they all have what i would think was an exaggerated gesture. it's the gesture that comes from holding a cigarette and i think this is a nice picture. it has authorship, i think. i'm basically, bizarrely, a rather shy person, but the lovely thing about the camera is that you hide behind it, so that if anybody... normally, if you are shy, and somebody talks to you... but if you have a camera, you have an excuse to be there. god, it's been a fun life. it's been a fun life. and, uh, i've loved every minute of it, you know? david hurn, who observed the eccentricities of britain in the ‘60s. america in the 1960s was dominated by the issue of race. bruce davidson chronicled
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the civil rights movement and accompanied black protesters on the 50 mile walk between selma and montgomery, in alabama. in orderfor me to make meaningful photographs, i had to be close, and that's what i did. i was doing high fashion pictures for vogue magazine. i come to feel that i can no longer do fashion. that was not where the world was for me at that time. it was important for someone to document what was happening in the south and step into that world. whenever i heard there was a march happening in birmingham i wouldjump on a plane and be down there. i wasn't sponsored by anybody. i didn't have a motor scooter or anything. when i lifted my camera to take a picture, i lost maybe 15 or 20 feet, maybe more, and i have to run to catch up,
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but i was in good shape in those days. this is an important picture. it shows two hefty cops from birmingham arresting a young woman. you can see that they're twisting her arm. in the background, there's surprise, eexcitement. but i didn't focus on that. that was just happenstance. that young man, who i haven't been able to find, it was his idea to put ‘vote‘ on his head and it was a very powerful image. it was also a very dangerous image for him, because the national guard was alongside, waiting in the woods for anything to happen, and they couldn't be trusted. the police couldn't be trusted. so he was showing off
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what the hallmark was really about and he survived and the image survived. i was privileged to photograph john lewis when he stepped into the bus to ride tojackson, mississippi, from montgomery, alabama. a famous civil rights leader and a congressman now. this is an important picture in a way because it was the beginning of 1961 freedom bus rides. the previous bus was burned and people were arrested and beaten and they set the bus on fire. i photographed people who voted for the first time in their life and they were in their 70s and that was very moving. towards the end of the selma march, people could vote and they'd vote, get a good education. if you get a good education you can get a good job and a good life, so that was the beginning of opening the door to the new world. i'm an outsider on the inside,
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but you're never completely on the inside, but you can make an attempt to see and be part of another life. many of the issues bruce davidson documented are still making headlines today. as are those captured in the photos of elliott erwitt. he's the child of russian parents who emigrated to the us. in the 1950s and ‘60s, he travelled to the soviet union and to cuba. the pictures he took there revealed the personalities and the tensions of the cold war. the picture was taken in 1959. i was in moscow. nixon, who was vice president at the time, was on a state visit to the soviet union and so i took the opportunity of joining the press corps
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that followed him around. they were grandstanding, nixon and khrushchev. they were just sort of playing for their audience. nixon was saying that "we americans it meat while you russians eat cabbage". it was just a way of nixon saying that we are well off and rich and you are miserable and poor. the russians have two parades a year where they display their might. may day, the worker's day, and the revolution. i happened to be there for the latter one. i was well positioned by virtue of going through three rings of security, together with a soviet tv group. somehow i blended in. i must have been badly dressed or something. sportswomen was one of the pictures taken there. at the beginning of
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the parade they have the... they display their military might and then they have the spontaneous worker's parade. the spontaneous parade, it generally lasted five hours. nothing spontaneous about it, of course. in 1964, i went to cuba for about a week or ten days and i spent it in havana. i spent it with fidel castro and che guevara. it was fascinating. fidel castro, he liked to be photographed, like any celebrity. i could sort of compare them to cowboys. they were affable, pleasant, interesting and very photogenic, as you will see. especially che. i would say he was the marilyn
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monroe of the period. he seemed to be in a good mood, as i remember. he even gave me a box of cigars, which i did not bring into the united states because it was prohibited. i regret the box of cigars. well, he was a charming man, i mean, apart from what he did or didn't do. there are many people who have doubtful backgrounds and doubtful histories. face—to—face they can be quite charming and accessible and interesting. i didn't speak so much. i listened more. i mean, photographers shouldn't get in the way of things.
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i hope that i was an observer rather than a participant. elliott erwitt remembering the cold war. don't forget, you can catch up on the whole series at the bbc website. can you imagine taking pictures of one of the most charismatic figures of the 20th century? well, thomas hoepker did just that when he was assigned to photographed muhammad ali in 1966. you have days where nothing happens and days that are full of surprises. i was working at the magazine in germany. one day the editor in chief came. he asked us, would you like to meet a very interesting person in the usa? his name is muhammad ali and he is a fantastic boxer. we had no idea about boxing. it was almost impossible to do interviews with him. sometimes we went in the morning but he did not show up.
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you could not anticipate anything. he was a surprise every day. we flew over to louisville and he was in the gym and we went to the gym, it was dark and suddenly he saw us standing there. "oh, you're there". and he did this to my camera and the gong comes on for the second round and he went back and punched the ball. so i only click and click and i had two pictures and these were the best pictures i ever took of him. you have to be very ready for surprises with him. he could be a different person from one moment to the other. one day he said, ok, i'll show you the city. and then we came to the chicago river and there was a little bridge and i said, could you go up there, and without telling him
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he just took off his shirt and then i said to him, jump. and hejumped from the bridge down, and click, another click, only one. then, ok, let's go somewhere else and have something to eat. we drove around again in chicago and suddenly he said, let's stop here, i want to go to the bakery, they have wonderful cookies. so he went inside and it took him quite a while. and an hour later, close to the bakery, he said, let me get a couple more. so he went inside and this time i said, something is strange here. so i went into the bakery and i saw him in there and then i understood because there was the baker's daughter.
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he was flirting very heavily, so it was not the cookies, it was the young, very pretty lady. the funny thing is that i visited ali four years later, so i came to this house and we sat down and i took some pictures of him and suddenly the door opened and his wife came in. and who was the wife? she was the baker's daughter, which i had photographed a couple of years before. thomas hoepker on the unforgettable world heavyweight boxing champion muhammad ali. in the same year, costa manos stumbled upon the funeral of a young american soldier killed in vietnam. one of the photographs he took went on to become a poster, and an emblem of the anti—war movement. i think to be a good photographer you have to know
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what you are looking for. the year was 1966, i was travelling around the south on an assignment for a japanese magazine to photograph southern landscapes, that was my assignment. i am out in the countryside and in the south there are these flat fields that are cotton fields, and i look and there is this church, a wooden church, unpainted wood. what was different was that there was a brown army bus parked in front of it. i drive up to the church, park behind the bus and go around to the back of the church, and they were going to have a funeral there. and all the people were there and they were waiting for the body of this soldier who was killed in vietnam to be brought to the church for the funeral.
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i talked to the boy's grandmother, and i said, is it ok to take pictures? she said sure, sure, sure. this was a moment when the bus carrying the honour guard, which was the soldiers who are carrying the coffin and the coffin and the ambulance, the hearse, they brought the coffin from the hearse to the burial site. that is a symbolic picture, showing the soldiers, who were the honour guard, and they've brought the boy's body to the church cemetery. the picture of the lady crying became iconic. it became an anti—war poster in europe, and it was a big poster that was all over europe. that was a time when people were protesting against the war and it just became a real protest picture. it's a historical picture because it is a specific moment in that war that shows how it touched ordinary people. i don't know who the little boy is, to be honest with you, and he was never identified in the article. i assume that he is either a cousin or a close friend who knew
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this boy, who was killed, and that's the way it affected him. that's what i saw and i photographed what i saw, and the pictures speak for themselves, i think. it was all over in about a half an hour, they came with the casket, they had a service. this is a moment that happened once and never happened before, will never happen again, and that's that kind of picture i think. and a very touching story, to appear at that time when people were tired of the vietnam war, and all these boys being killed. costa manos on his heartbreaking images of grief. chris steele—perkins is probably best known for his documentary pictures of life in britain. in the 1980s he produced a range of photographs which captured the nation under the conservative prime minister margaret thatcher, pointing his camera at every
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section of society. photography is about history, demarcating a period and a time. the wolverhampton set of pictures was actually done for the sunday times magazine, and the whole idea was to go back to wolverhampton, ten years after enoch powell had given his famous, as it was yet to be known, "rivers of blood" speech, and go and look at the asian and afro—caribbean community up in wolverhampton and see whether they were actually drinking each other‘s blood or not. there was a church club which seemed seemed to cater quite well for local kids, they could go down there and play their own music, hang out, there was a kind of rhythm to the whole thing, and you kind of tuned into that,
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and that's what you're after. the exact sort of compositional elements are more important in the overall composition, rather than the small details. the idea was about trying to photograph the english trying to have fun. trying to sort of show the world that they kind of... had a good life. finding the oddities in people, it's almost like an act of homage rather than a kick in the midriff. i went to a lot of nightclubs, and people hanging out, and bored couples who don't speak to each other for hours, and i was photographing this way, and people were all going, there, there! i thought maybe this was a new dance, and i turn around and this fight was going on right behind me. they are all rather well
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dressed up for this sort of night out, of being cool, and they end up on the floor sort of being punched in the mouth. once again, perhaps that is a metaphor for the way we live. there was the sort of tail end of national front and people like this, still sort of active in street demonstrations in britain. it felt like it needed to be covered, and for me that was about the posture and, sort of, the posturing and expression, and projection that people wanted to give off. it is hard to know what people really think any more. i mean, you know, mythologies kind of creep up and cover things in the new realities. that shot of thatcher is, i found, quite ambiguous. yes, she kind of looks startled, and kind of looks confused almost. but at the same time
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she is quite glamorous. and then obviously you have the parody of the people in the background who are all openmouthed and overcome by being in her presence. ifeel like i got one picture that has kind of stood the test of time, and is still ambiguous, which i like about photography, that it can be ambiguous, you know, you can read it different ways. and they're all right. chris steele—perkins on the ambiguity of photography as a historical record. and that is all from through the lens here at the southbank centre. see the rest of the series at bbc.com/throughthelens. hello, so what you like about dreaming ofa hello, so what you like about dreaming of a white christmas, but at least is mild and quiet weather is not affecting anyone‘s travel,
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but things could change after christmas day as it turns cold and there's risk of some snow. this is there's risk of some snow. this is the mild airwe there's risk of some snow. this is the mild air we have, through christmas eve into christmas day, but later on christmas day, especially into boxing day, the colder air starting to move south across the uk, and boxing day and a few days after in the cold air where there is the risk of snow. this is there is the risk of snow. this is the christmas eve is the mild weather, around this area of high pressure, the flow of air coming from the atlantic, the most flow, plenty of cloud, and the weather front, even into christmas day, hanging around the same part of the uk. several hours of quite heavy rain in western scotland and the hills, up to 100 millimetres, turning wet over northern ireland, the rain pushing into cumbria, it will be heavy to the south, mainly dry and often cloudy. so christmas eve, into christmas day, overnight, still outbreaks of rain, but across
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northern ireland into scotland and the far north of england, south of that, patchy light rain and drizzle, and it will be frost free for most of us, it will be mild and agreeing christmas day. the weatherfront of us, it will be mild and agreeing christmas day. the weather front is close to scotland and northern ireland but only gradually later on christmas day into boxing day, that it moves further east, but as we go through christmas day still some uncertainty about the position, but it will hang around for some time. the central but, southern scotland, east of northern ireland, gradually pushing into wales and england, it is the boundary between the mild christmas day that much of england and wales will have on the colder one for those parts of scotland and northern ireland turning dryer. as we look at christmas day night into boxing day, as the system clears way, the colder air tucks behind, we could see some late snow on christmas day into boxing day morning, on some of the hills as it moves east, and then boxing day, we
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have the colder flow of air, moving south, single figure temperatures and in this weather system into the south—west, the area of low pressure going from boxing day into wednesday. from this area of low pressure, pushing the moisture into the colder air, we could see some snow across some southern parts, maybe not just on snow across some southern parts, maybe notjust on hills, that is one to watch, that clears to the east, wintry showers especially on coastal areas, some people will have low singleton is. on thursday, another weather system targeting southern parts of the uk, the game we could have some snowfall out of this, initially on hills as it moves in, so just bear initially on hills as it moves in, sojust bear in mind for a time after christmas there could be some travel in fact from wintry weather, but as we go into the following weekend, the last weekend of the year, weekend, the last weekend of the yea r, low pressure weekend, the last weekend of the year, low pressure dominating things, things will be turning milder once again. it will be u nsettled, milder once again. it will be unsettled, the last few days of the
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year into the start of 2018, we are looking at rain rather than anything else, some northern hills might have snow but we are concerned then about the strength of the wind which could be disruptive on the weather systems moving through, and right at the end of the year into the start of 2018. that is the latest weather for the weekend. this is bbc news. the headlines. nearly 200 people are known to have died after a tropical storm triggers flash floods and landslides in the southern philippines. a man has appeared at york magistrates' court charged with the murder ofjodie willsher at an aldi supermarket in skipton. london zoo is to reopen tomorrow after a major fire in which an aardvark and four meerkats are thought to have died. theresa may pays tribute to british troops at home and abroad in a christmas message. and in california, the deadly wild fire that has destroyed hundreds of homes is now the largest in state history. the thomas blaze has scorched an area greater than new york city,
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