tv Beyond 100 Days BBC News January 24, 2018 7:00pm-8:01pm GMT
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you're watching beyond 100 days on pbs. larry nassar, the former team doctor of usa gynamastics, is sentenced to up to 175 years injail. thejudge said she had "signed his death warrant" for the serial abuse of young women who were entrusted to his care. one after another, the victims had taken the stand to explain how nassar used his position to molest girls who were seeking medical help. we were ultimately strong enough to take you down, not one by one, but by an army of survivors. i will carry your words with me for the rest of my days. president trump heads to davos but wherever he goes, the dark cloud of robert mueller seems to follow him. also on the programme... reports of lewd behaviour at a men's only charity event in london draws fierce condemnation. those who attended the dinner are feeling the fallout. and we'll bring you the row from saudi arabia that involves camels and botox. this is one you are going to want to
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hear. get in touch with us using the hashtag #beyond0nehundreddays. hello and welcome — i'm christian fraser in london, jane o'brien is in washington. he had fooled his employer, he had fooled the parents, some of whom were doctors themselves, some of them serving police officers. he was so well practised in his abuse that larry nassar believed he was untouchable. but this week the former doctor of usa gymnastics was unmasked for the monster he is. and today he was sentenced to up to 175 years in prison on top of the 60 years he was already serving for possession of child pornography. the young women who've faced larry nassar in the michigan court have delivered some powerful and heartbreaking testimony, over 150 impact statements. many of the victims, we already know. they are some of the most
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decorated american gymnasts. and one after the other, they have taken the stand and faced down theirformer doctor and serial abuser. the tables have turned, larry. we are here, wehave ogrvoices"" " ’ "’ and we are not going anywhere. the amount of physical, mental and emotional trauma this man has forced upon me is immeasurable. over the last seven days, their voices and their stories have become hard to ignore. 156 women say they were sexually abused by this man, larry nassar. during the hearing, judge rosemarie aquilina invited other women who had been abused to come forward. the response was unprecedented. what started as ten convictions turned into an outpouring of testimony. today she did not hold back when delivering her verdict. i'm giving you 175 years,
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which is 2100 months. i've just signed your death warrant. today, he had this response for his victims. an acceptable apology to all of you is impossible to write and convey. i will carry your words with me for the rest of my days. described as a monster and satan in court, the former usa gymnastics team doctor treated hundreds of women over decades, from decorated 0lympians and state—level gymnasts to the children of family friends. sent to him for medical treatment, instead of taking away their pain, he stole their innocence. speaking on a podcast in 2013 before his abuse was uncovered, he was recorded talking about his views on the welfare of the children under his care. you screw up once with one of those gymnasts, and it'll
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spread like wildfire. if you do something to break their chain of trust, of trust, you're done because they will never trust you again. they will tell the other gymnasts. i do not feel like i had a choice even if i felt something was wrong. she says she and other young women were ignored when they tried to complain about nassar to officials. she says the sport's governing body, usa gymnastics, has a lot to answer for. i know dr nassar is a monster, but those people around him who have been protecting him, those are real monsters too and they need to be held accountable. the focus of this sentencing has been on the survivors of larry nassar‘s abuse and perhaps the biggest victory for them is not just seeing him behind bars,
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but knowing that together, they founded the collective strength to confront him. nassar‘s abuse spanned more than two decades, involving more than 150 girls and women. he was hired by the us national gymnastics team in 1986. the earliest record of abuse is 1992, when he was accused of assaulting a 12—year—old girl. there were so many missed opportunities. in 2004, a victim told her parents of the abuse. it was never reported. in 2014, nassar was cleared of wrongdoing by michigan state university after an investigation into claims of sexual assault by a woman he'd treated. it was only in august 2016, after more than 20 years of molesting young gymnasts, that the indianapolis star, part of the usa today network, published a story about sexual abuse inside the us team and the story came to public attention. let's bring in briana scurry. she was the goalkeeper for the united states women's national soccer team, winning olympic gold in 1996 and the world cup in 1999.
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we have been hearing some very powerful testimony from these girls. would you say that this is an issue that goes beyond gymnastics, and is this a watershed moment for women in sport generally? i think it's entirely possible. here in the united states, you have seen so many different instances of power being held over women who seemingly don't have a lot of power. in the women's gymnastic situation in particular, it's not only the abuse that was occurring, it was the cover—up after the abuse that is so compelling to me. that's why these things are u nfortu nately me. that's why these things are unfortunately perpetuated for so long a lot of the time. i think all sports governing bodies in the usoc need to be careful and really do theirjob when an athlete comes to them and says there is something wrong. at the very least, they should believe them, which was not
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happening with the usa team, and then pursue and see what is going on. as somebody who has been involved in top competitive sport and has witnessed and been involved in these sorts of relationships close—up, how does this happen? give us close—up, how does this happen? give usa close—up, how does this happen? give us a sense close—up, how does this happen? give us a sense of how these relationships can become so abusive. well, in the case with a doctor and an athlete, it's like a coach and an athlete. that doctor and that coach is the steward of that athlete's dream. they are part of the gateway through which an athlete can get from their dreams into reality. so in the case of usa gymnastics, that is why it is so diabolical in my opinion, because you are taking athletes who are striving, a girl is trying to be the best they can be played for their country, and the people who are supposed to safeguard them, train them and get them to
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that level are the ones who are bringing them down. that is why it is so difficult for them to say anything in the first place, because they feel like either they are going to wreck their own chances of getting to their dreams, which is all they have wanted to do for so long, or they may not be believed and they are not sure. a lot of the time, they have guilt about it. so there are some anything things going on and it is very difficult. i applaud all those women who came forward and finally got their day to say what happened to them and see justice done. it seems to me that pa rt justice done. it seems to me that part of the problem in athletics in the united states, as was the case with the football abuse scandal here in the uk, is that the governing body didn't feel it had the ability to exert more influence over the clu bs. to exert more influence over the clubs. would you say that is part of the problem? i definitely think that is part of the problem. for the
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governing body over the clubs, everybody has to understand that thatis everybody has to understand that that is not a cave. if there is even a whisper or inclination of abuse that goes from the athlete to the clu b that goes from the athlete to the club and from the club to the governing body, at least they have to acknowledge that there is something going on. wherever the road leads, whether it was true or not true, it has to be pursued. 0therwise, not true, it has to be pursued. otherwise, you have a situation like you had with us domestics, where these girls were trying to do the right thing by telling someone and no one is doing anything. 0ne body thinks it doesn't have power over the other and vice versa. somebody needs to take responsibility. it is important that all the governing bodies do that. briana scurry, good to get your thoughts. as we mentioned, the nasa story was first brought to light by the indianapolis star. the journalist behind that
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article is marisa kwiatkowski for is that shejoins us article is marisa kwiatkowski for is that she joins us now. we should congratulate you for pulling out the threads and keeping on pulling, because it is only when journalists get involved and they believe some of these allegations that we get to the truth. tell us how this investigation started and how it gathered pace? the investigation started when i was looking to report sexual abuse in schools. and looking at the reasons why officials would learn of violations but not report them. somebody suggested that i look into usa gymnastics. we started that same week and within four months, we have our first story that showed that usa gymnastics executives had failed to report all allegations of child sexual abuse to authorities. what sort of resistance did you face when you began your investigation? there was some resistance from usa
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gymnastics in terms of what its policy was. so we had to look into the background of a lot of coaches to find out whether there had been allegations made against them and if so, whether those allegations had been reported to authorities. we also did hear some resistance when we first started reporting about larry nassar. he was blooded member of the sports community when we started our investigation into his conduct that mac —— he was a beloved member. did you have any indication as to how big this story would become? we knew what the story was, but we didn't realise the scope of how much it had been put into practice. and we certainly didn't realise the number of survivors who would come forward relating to larry nassar. where does it go from here?
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are you still pursuing this? my collea g u es are you still pursuing this? my colleagues and i are continuing to look into this issue. now that larry nassar has been convicted and is serving prison time, were looking at the entirety of the system and saying, where did this go wrong? according to both our investigation understatements of survivors of the last week, there were people who knew about this, but did nothing. so we are looking deeper at the system and the people who enabled this abuse to occur. and that would be michigan state university. i read that 14 people were notified of sexual abuse allegations and did nothing about it. there were at least 14 people from what has been reported thus far. there were people according to records we have at usa gymnastics and according to usa
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gymnastics' own statements, they had learned of allegations and conducted a five—week investigation before they report it to the fbi. so there are multiple people in multiple roles who knew something about larry nassar. thank you for coming on the programme. have you seen nassar. thank you for coming on the programme. have you seen the film spotlight? not recently. there was a line in that film about the abuse within the catholic church that if it takes a village to raise a child, it takes a village to raise a child, it takes a village to abuse one. and again, ithink it takes a village to abuse one. and again, i think we have seen in the indianapolis star case that this is notjust a failure of indianapolis star case that this is not just a failure of the indianapolis star case that this is notjust a failure of the coaches are all the governing body, is a collective failure of everybody who has been involved with larry nassar. that is the parents, the fellow athletes, the media who probably had this right under their nose. i think if there is going to be any proper safeguards in sport and in our schools and clubs to stop this sort of thing, we have to encourage and facilitate the reporting of abuse such as we have seen here.
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facilitate the reporting of abuse such as we have seen herelj facilitate the reporting of abuse such as we have seen here. i think so. such as we have seen here. i think so. and i think thejudge captured that moment when she mentioned some shocking figures that one in ten children will be sexually assaulted by their 18th birthday, which shows the importance of speaking up at these kinds of things. whether people will or not of course remains to be seen. there's no sign that the russia investigation is winding up — on the contrary, special counsel robert mueller now reportedly wants to speak to the president himself. the focus increasingly seems to be mr trump's conduct in office and whether or not he attempted to obstruct justice. there have been plenty of developments. yesterday we learned that attorney generaljeff sessions was interviewed as recently as last week we also discovered that the former head of the fbi james comey was questioned last year about memos he wrote after meetings with the president that made him uncomfortable. with the president that now there are reports that shortly after the president fired mr comey in may, he summoned the bureau's acting director andrew mccabe and asked him how he voted in the election. last night the white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders was adamant, however, that the president wants to see
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the investigation come to an end and there were no plans to fire robert mueller. i think we all know what everybody in this room would do if the president did that and i don't think that's helpful to the process. the president wants to see this end and he wants to see them finally come to the same conclusion that i think most everyone in america has, that there is nothing to this. they have spent the better part, most of you have spent the better part of the year looking, digging, obsessing over trying to find something, and have yet to find anything. joining us from our new york studio is republican political strategist and former advisor to george w bush, ron christie. this drip, drip, drip of information may not in the end add up to much legally for the president, but can his administration would cover from the political fallout at this point?
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yes, i think the trump administration can get beyond this if muller and his investigation do not produce anything that either shows collusion with the russian government during the past election cycle or, where i think this investigation is going now, and obstruction of justice investigation is going now, and obstruction ofjustice angle. i believe it's in our best interests asa believe it's in our best interests as a country that our congress passes laws. the president signs them and we govern effectively and responsibly. but only until this investigation ends and one way or the other, i think the trump administration will be under a form of paralysis and it will be difficult for them to remove themselves from it. we have heard various stories about the president'sinteractions with the fbi this week, first and foremost that he pressured the now directed to sack his deputy, andrew makabe. now we read in the washington post today that he pulled andrew mccain bid and asked which way he voted in the election. there has been this pattern that the president is always trying to serve the narrative that the fbi is dirty. my concern,
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watching from afar, is that the conservative media are now starting to pick this up. look at what fox had to say yesterday. it may be time to declare war outright against the deep state and clear out the rotten upper levels of the fbi and the justice department. yes, i said the rot. the fbi and the doj justice department. yes, i said the rot. the fbi and the do] have broken the public trust by destroying evidence, defying oversight and actively trying to bring down the trump presidency. is it right that the media is going to war with law enforcement in america, ron?|j the media is going to war with law enforcement in america, ron? i am very concerned about the revelations we have heard of late. you have the assistant director of intelligence at the fbi and his paramour, lisa paige, exchanging text messages. then the fbi tells us that they can't find 50,000 of those text
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messages. what is critical here is the fact that the period where they started, december 14, which ended when they came back online, is the same day that robert mueller was appointed as a special counsel. as a lawyer, this looks really damaging that there appears to be rot, as mr jobs from fox says, at the top of the justice jobs from fox says, at the top of thejustice department, jobs from fox says, at the top of the justice department, and we need to get to the bottom of this. we don't know the basis for those allegations, though, because we haven't seen the memo with regards to the investigation. that's right. i anticipate that that will happen in the next two weeks. my friends on capitol hill to me there will be able to release the memo and they we re able to release the memo and they were asked president trump to declassify this memo. it's a four page document that is allegedly explosive about how intelligence had been gathered against mr trump and those who are part of his campaign. we will have to see, but i think there is a certain level of
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paralysis surrounding this administration until mr mueller and his work finally wrapped up their business. did to get your thoughts as ever. time for a quick look at the day's other news now. the former prime minister david cameron has been overheard saying that brexit has turned out "less badly" than feared. in comments caught on camera, mr cameron, who campaigned to remain in the eu, said leaving the eu was a mistake but "not a disaster". apple has announced changes that allow users to turn off a controversial feature that slows down iphones when batteries are running low. the firm was criticised in december after it admitted deliberately slowing down some ageing iphone models to conserve battery life. it promised to rectify the problem, but faces lawsuits over the issue. tammy duckworth will become the first sitting us senator to give birth later this year — at the age of 50. the illinois democrat is a retired army lieutenant colonel, who flew helicopters during the iraq war. she was the first female double amputee after suffering severe combat wounds when her black hawk
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was shot down in 2004. the senator says she is expecting her second child in the spring. she is incredible, tammy duckworth, the first female double amputee from the first female double amputee from the iraq war, the first disabled woman elected to the senate, the first woman to give birth while serving in the senate. and she wears it lightly. i met her ten years ago and was blown away by how normal she is, in spite of all those firsts. an extraordinary woman am making the headlines again. here in london, the organisers of one of the biggest charity events of the year say they're appalled by allegations of sexual harassment at the dinner. undercover journalists from the financial times say they were groped and propositioned at the presidents club's annual charity fundraiser. one of the prizes at the auction was tea with the bank of england governor mark carney. the bank said today it is withdrawing the offer. two london children's hospitals have
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both said they will return donations and the matter has been raised in parliament. daniela relph reports. undercover at the 5—star dorchester hotel. madison marriage, a reporter for the financial times, here, getting ready for a night's work as a hostess at the presidents club fundraising dinner. the guests, all men. the hostesses, all young women, paid around £200 for an evening's work. as the dinner began, guests were told they were at the most un—pc event of the year. there was a charity auction, including an offer of plastic surgery at a harley street clinic, perhaps, they were told, for their wives. and during the evening, the undercover reporter says she and others were repeatedly groped and harassed by male guests. multiple women told me that they had
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been touched inappropriately, and that ranged from holding their hands, to touching their stomachs, to hands near the bottom of their back, things which maybe you might not find too offensive, but then, you know, touching their bums, kind of grabbing them, pulling them into their laps. yeah, so there was a complete range of sexual harassment, basically. the event raised more than £2 million for several organisations including great 0rmond street hospital. it now says it will return all donations, due to the wholly unacceptable nature of the event. and in a statement, the presidents club said: businessman david meller is a trustee of the presidents club
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and until today, he was also a nonexecutive board member at the department for education. he has now stepped down from that role. the future of the presidents club dinner is also now in doubt. will the allegations of lewd behaviour end an event that has been held for 33 years? some of the details in this story are extraordinary. the women were paraded on stage. they were told to wear skimpy black outfits with matching underwear. they were asked to signa matching underwear. they were asked to sign a 5—page nondisclosure document, and they were told to leave their mobile phones behind and not at other boyfriends. but the most extreme every detail is that there was a monitoring system in place in the loos. so if they went for too long to the toilets, there was a security guard who would tell them to come out. say they were not even able to escape in the women's
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loo. what worries me is the fact that we keep being told how things are changing, but it seems to me that nothing changes unless you get caught. and when is that going to change? we are going to talk about it more in the programme. we will hear from it more in the programme. we will hearfrom a prominent it more in the programme. we will hear from a prominent figure it more in the programme. we will hearfrom a prominent figure in the city later. every year in saudi arabia, thousands of camels are paraded at the king abdulaziz festival to bejudged on their shapely lips and humps. there are cash prizes — up to $60 million. this year, however, scandal — cheating — with the discovery that botox has been used to embellish the faces and curves of our desert friends. 12 camels have been disqualified. what do you make of that? how could you tell the difference? they have those trembly lips. i think you can tell a botox camel. you have an expert i! lemieux read your quote
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from the bbc website. it says, the botox makes the head more inflated to that when the camel comes, it's like, look at how big the head is. it has big lips and a big nose. so if you are a connoisseur of camels, you would definitely notice that your camel had been injected with botox. i will take your word for it, christian. you are such an expert. this is beyond 100 days from the bbc. coming up for viewers on the bbc news channel and bbc world news, we're live in michigan for more reaction to the sentencing of the former usa gymnastics team doctor. and president macron has a message for the world about france — we'll find out exactly what it is. that's still to come. the day was always going to be a
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very wet and windy one for many parts of the british isles, given the proximity of georgina, the great hook of cloud showing the centre of the storm to the north of scotland. thankfully, not many saw that at close quarters. what many more will have seen is this weather front, gradually slumping towards the south and east. anywhere near that, there was also that combination of very wet and windy weather, to the extent that in york, there has been some flooding around the river roose, due toa flooding around the river roose, due to a combination of heavy rain and snow melt. more widely, we have seen some very strong snow melt. more widely, we have seen some very strong gusts of wind. there was plenty of oomph in those winds on the western side of scotland. 0vernight, georgina will move towards scandinavia. the front filter away from the south—east. we have a new centre of low pressure
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near the north—western quarter of northern ireland. that will keep a feed of showers going across northern and western parts of the british isles. a bit wintry in those across the higher ground of scotland, the north of england and the north end of wales. as we start the north end of wales. as we start the new day on thursday, it's a bright and blustery day. northern ireland is close to the centre of low pressure, so plenty of showers there. you get a sense that the showers willjoin up for a time in the afternoon anywhere from scotland through the western side of england across wales. to the north of that in east anglia and the south—east, fewer showers to report. 0vernight from thursday to friday, we push the low pressure into the north sea. behind it, a cold and crisp start the day on friday. a quieter day for the day on friday. a quieter day for the most part, just a bit of a breeze coming down the north sea, ushering in a few showers. it essentially, it is a dry and fine day, but feeling fresher than has been the case of late. just in time
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for the weekend, we are going to bring weather fronts in from the atlantic. quite a number of isobars here to take you from saturday to sunday. but at least they are bending back towards the south—west. a lot of moisture on that see track coming towards the british isles, so there will be rain at times and it will be quite windy, but at least in the south—westerly, it will be pretty mild. this is beyond 100 days, with me christian fraser in london — jane 0'brien's in washington. our top stories — sentenced to 175 years in jail — the doctor who abused young gymnasts in the us will spend the rest of his life behind bars. france's president emmanuel macron tells davos about his vision for france both in europe and on the global stage france is back at the core of europe. coming up in the next half hour —
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brazil's ex—president lula ends a corruption... a new warning from interpol about the threat from so—called islamic state as they go home, the fighters, were they move on to other global hotspots? do let us on to other global hotspots? do let us know their thoughts by using the hashtag beyond 100 days. threejudges three judges voted against the corruption that lula continues to delight. it is looking highly doubtful that he will run again. but of opponents have gathered in porto
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alegre to hear the outcome. 0ur corresponds at it in a very windy place, today. and it is raining, as well, katie, kenny tell us a bit about the case, the indications for him having supporters?” about the case, the indications for him having supporters? i think you will find that the weather here probably represent the mood of the lula supporters. two out of three judges have upheld the vote, the previous conviction, and the previous conviction, and the previous sentence, so, at the moment his original sentence has been upheld, with a third boat waiting to happen. the mood here among the supporters will not be as positive as it was at the beginning of the day. they said that they would win it, and both camps, both pro—and anti—lula were convinced that they would win, and lula's supporters look like they will be in for a disappointment. whether he can run for president is still early days. disappointment. whether he can run
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for president is still early dayslj will ask you another question, you are doing so well. he has not been to prison, yet. he has not served a day injail? iron that is right. he was freed on appeal. the two maximum jurors who have voted already have actually increase the sentence to just over 12 years. it is unlikely that he will go to jail. he does have to appeal. that is what his lawyers said they will be doing. now, he will remain free, most likely. brazilian politics is very complex, and this has been one of the biggest chapters in the series. at the moment, he is free, and that means that you can still run for president. that is what has been doing for the last few months, saying that he does want to run, and the people who support in wanting to run, too. that is what is causing controversy. we will watch that one closely, well done, katie, go and get dry. returning to our top story —
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and the former usa gymnastics team doctor larry nassar has been sentenced to 175 years in prison for sexually abusing young gymnasts. almost 160 of his victims testified against him in court in an emotional hearing. let's cross live to lansing, michigan where our north america correspondent rajini vaidya nathan has been following the proceedings throughout. just give us a sense ofjust how powerful and changing this case has been? well, jane, i am standing in the courtroom, now, and is com pletely the courtroom, now, and is completely empty, as i am sure that you can see. just over an hour ago, there was a lot of a intense emotion, raw emotion, really, because for seven days, women who have spoken out against larry nassar detailing the abuse that he had infected on their impact in this courtroom to share their stories. it is more than 156 women who shared their emotional testimony. afterwards, i spoke to some of the
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women who i have been interviewing, throughout the course of the last week, and one of them said to me, the biggest legacy for them, in terms of this case, was the hope that by speaking out themselves, other survivors of sexual abuse, who are watching what happened here in the courts, would have the courage to speak out. because, of course, it was not just larry to speak out. because, of course, it was notjust larry nassar that they we re was notjust larry nassar that they were angry at. throughout this case were angry at. throughout this case we have heard testimony after testimony, criticisms of the officials and authorities at michigan state university, which is where larry nassar worked, and also usa gymnastics, the us governing body. many of these women say that they try to report him, and raise concerns about his abuse, and the way that they were being abused under the guise of medical treatment, but instead, those concerns were ignored. these women we re concerns were ignored. these women were not believed. i think, the biggest legacy from all of this, is that many of the survivors of sexual abuse now believe that they have not
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just given women in this particular case a voice, but women everywhere, boys. yes, a lot of people watching this case will wonder how it could have gone on so long under texted. to think things will change? as somebody who covers these —— undetected. do you think things will change? as somebody who covers these stories a lot for the bbc?” change? as somebody who covers these stories a lot for the bbc? i think in this case. they have some hope, if not lots of hope. they have calling for the head of the usa gymnastics to step down, and she took over after the abuse was reported, but many, that i have spoken to believe that the whole of the organisation needs to be restructured, because there is a deep—rooted culture,... i mentioned michigan state university, as well, and the state of michigan state university, there have been caused for her to step down. she is in post as far as for her to step down. she is in post as farasi for her to step down. she is in post as far as i believe. many people feel that that accountability has not gone far enough. will it change things? well, i certainly think, any
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young woman who has been watching this trial, who is a survivor of sexual assault and not showing their story, i think they may think twice now about whether they do have the courage to go to the police, or to reported to someone, because many of these young women felt so afraid to even tell their owns families. these women's were so even tell their owns families. these women's were so young, even tell their owns families. these women's were so young, they did not even know at the time that what larry nassar was doing to them was actually sexual abuse, because for many of them, this was their first ever sexual experience. that is what is so horrific about this case. ido i do think that things will change in terms of survivors having a voice, but many survivors here do not believe that the authorities and the officials, who are the ones that people go to with these kinds of abuse, they need to change their mindsets, too. very good to get your thoughts, thank you very much for your reporting. the french president, emmanuel macron, has told the world economic forum in switzerland that france is back at the core of europe
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under his leadership. he also told world leaders that globalisation is facing a "major crisis" and that focussing on growth had led to more inequality. he urged delegates that it was down to everyone to look for solutions. let us not be naive. in this global challenge requires, cooperation from international organisations, states, companies, civil society, in order to find and implement to solutions, and the reason i'd came here today is to make a call to action. and, a call to all and everyone of us... 0ur correspondence track travels with mr emmanuel macron. i am sure people back at home is very pleased that emmanuel macron is establishing
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him abroad, but do they look at the problems at home and think, what is he changing? it was a rather delicate speech, you know. he started in english about his reforms in france. expending how flexible france was because of his reforms, how he could adapt better to globalisation, and then, on the other hand, in english, he is pleaded to change globalisation, because many states, lower their taxes and there social standards, to adapt to globalisation. so, for french people, it is a little bit contradictory, between those two speeches. well, exactly, globalisation has brought millions out of poverty in the developing world, but it has also created an underclass in western societies, and i travelled around france, and the world leaders have not found the a nswe rs world leaders have not found the a nswers to world leaders have not found the answers to that. yes, he has got to
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a nswer to answers to that. yes, he has got to answer to those two different things. he is talking both to those people and to davos leaders. two french people, he is saying, look, we have to change globalisation, because this is too much flexibility, of lowering taxes, lowering social standards, and then on the other hand, he spoke to davos leaders in english, think how good his reforms were. to make france more flexible and to lower taxes, because he lowered tax on companies, he lowered taxes on fortunes, and how good it was the france. and, on the other hand he said let's not have the countries, only to themselves, that have cooperation, and convergence. it is two different speeches in two different languages. it will be interesting to see which speech president trump wants to listen to and take notice of when he
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had there later this week. why do you think emmanuel macron and donald trump get on so well when their global views are actually quite different? well, they do have common point ina different? well, they do have common point in a way. both of them, were newcomers and now an effected in politics, and they change the system. so, on this point, they have similar... both of them wanted to change, wanted to be the new man, and they did it. so, in this way, macron likes job a lot. this way, macron likesjob a lot. he was the outsider, the an predictable victory. macron has a way of saying, let's agree to disagree, and let's try and see what points we can work
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together, and also, he wants to be trump's best friend in europe, because great britain is out of the game, and germany is weakened, so, now, let france do the part of being trump's best friend. we have got many things to gain from this. what about the french people's reaction to president trump. he does not seem to president trump. he does not seem to express the same opprobrium, you just mentioned great britain there who do not want to see president trump, do the french share that antipathy? it is not like when british people petition, and yelled about his coming. when trump came in july, french people thought it was rather clever, from macron, to have him at home, trying to tame him, like a... you know, an animalthat you have too tame. so, to get along
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with him, because it would be interesting for us... they did not see it as a compromise, they saw it as clever. we had putinjust a few days before. just like putin, it is a way to try to manipulate them. this is the idea of french people, and macron is able to manipulate them. ithink and macron is able to manipulate them. i think it is a little bit of this. very interesting. thank you very much indeed forjoining us. the latest from davos, there. so—called islamic state has lost almost all the territory it once held in the middle east. but interpol is warning that fighters are continuing to pose a threat as they return home or move to other global hotspots. and the group has also been blamed for inspiring attacks abroad by radicalizing people online. in fact home grown terrorism remains one of the hardest threats to detect and prevent. a brief time ago we were joined from davos byjurgen stock, interpol‘s secretary general. i asked him where the bulk of the islamic state fighters we see that a lot of these fighters
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who have beenjoining into the fight, so we think about 40,000 from almost 100 countries, that they are now, some of them returning to their home countries. some of them remain in the conflict zone, as a part of the insurgency, and others might travel to other parts of the world, and join terrorist groups in this part of the world. so, the sharing of relevant police information to track these travel activities, to build a kind of early warning system is more important than ever, because, again, this has really become a global threat. but, of course, the best intelligence will be in syria and in iraq. how easy is it to get that kind of information? i think we are now having to develop a strong cooperation, with the counter coalition for in instance. and one of the project is that we try and translate better
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information. that is information that are still on the battlefield, that we translate this military information into law enforcement. in close cooperation with our interpol national central bureaus, and to provide this information for our global police community of 190 member countries. and to make sure that this information is available at the front lines, at border stations, or even in the hands of individual police officers who are conducting checks of persons or cars in the streets of any major city or in any hotspot. what about the realm of cyber security, because a lot of the terror threat is now moving online, you getting the help that you need from social media organisations whose platforms are often used by terrorists? i think we have made a lot
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of progress, getting cooperating with the private sector specifically, particularly with the internet service providers. there are a lot of political initiatives going on under the umbrella for instance of the g—7. ministers of the interior, that is one of the examples where interpol tries to play its role as a facilitator of information exchange, and to make this information available to our member countries, and to translate this information into complete action. with regard to the internet, which are still playing a role, not just in providing propaganda, but providing that information, on other things that requires also a strong corporation with the private sector. and, how great would you say is the terror threat now, at the start of 2018? i think that the threat level currently, the problem is that we have a real global dimension, and we have a multilayered threat level, currently that means that we see a lot of terrorists travelling around the world.
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they are battle hardened, if i may say. they are sometimes brutalised from conflicts that have taken place. that requires a new level of information sharing, and that's exactly what interpol is about. it is about encouraging the member countries of interpol to use our databases, to improve our information, for instance, biometric information, for instance, biometric information about terrorists and suspects, but making sure that these information is accessible for policing. this is beyond 100 days.
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still to come — as delegates expected donald trump's arrival, can expect a political blizzard, too. a jury's been told that a man accused of carrying out the finsbury park terror attack last june kept smiling and even blew a kiss at the gathering crowd after ploughing a van into muslim worshippers. darren 0sborne from cardiff denies murder and attempted murder after the attack in north london which left one man dead. daniel sandford reports. witness after witness described how the van described how the van revved its engines, just before smashing into the group of muslim men and women. some survivors describe how they feared for their lives, thinking someone would get out of the van with a gun or a knife. the jury heard this 999 call made by a witness, who was asking for ambulances. within the hour, 51 your
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old makram ali was declared dead at the scene. hamdi al—faiq suffered life changing injuries, including a broken pelvis, broken ribs, and a broken foot. he told the court how friends pulled out from under the van. people grabbed the man they believed to be the driver of the van, to detain him. the court heard that some were punching and kicking him. the imam of the local mosque, stop people attacking the suspected driver, telling the jury, he should answerfor his crimes in a court such as this, and not a court in the street. in a statement to the court, the man who made the 999 call said that the man who had been detained said to the crowd, "i've done myjob, you can kill me now." he was constantly smiling, the man recalled. the man on trial, darren 0sborne, denies charges of murder and attempted murder. the court was played
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a video from a police officer's body worn camera for the night, in which darren 0sborne rant about muslims, and says, "have some of that! have some of your own! at least i had a proper go." you're watching beyond 100 days. the organisers of a men—only charity dinner in london have said they're appalled by allegations of sexual harassment at the event. undercover journalists from the financial times say they were groped and propositioned at the presidents club annual charity fundraiser in london, which, should sound these days like something from another era — but oh no. hostesses intructed to wear short skirts and matching underwear; charity prizes including "plastic surgery" to "add spice to your wife." and the event welcoming guests to "the most un—pc event of the year." mps reacted with fury in the commons today. women were bought as bait for men,
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who are rich men, not a mile from where we stand, as if that is an acceptable behaviour. it is totally unacceptable. the fact that there are men who attend those dinners, and think it is appropriate... one of the prizes on that brochure was plastic surgery to "spice up your wife". this is quite extroardinary to me, mr speaker, that in the 21st—century, allegations of this kind are still emerging. nicola horlick is well—known in the city of london, ceo of money and co and a fund manager since the 1980s. when i met her earlier i asked her surprise she was? when i read that article, it was like reading something that happened 35 or 40
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yea rs something that happened 35 or 40 years ago. not something you would expect to happen in 2018. particularly not after all of the terrible things that have been happening in hollywood and other places. it just seems happening in hollywood and other places. itjust seems very happening in hollywood and other places. it just seems very strange. exactly, given the stories that we have read in recent months, it would almost seem that the organisers were tone deaf to the times that we are living in. absolutely. i have heard people say, these girls should not have gone along and been hostesses, but we are talking about girls who are undergraduates who had just graduated, who were living in london, which is a very expensive place, and being offered to go to a charity dinner, being paid £200 to do it, which is a good contribution to the rent. you can understand why they might have done, and that especially when told that it was a charity dinner. so, these women were paraded on stage, and some of the behaviour that you read about is
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incredible. hands up skirts, hands on bottoms. does it surprise you that these men would surprise you in such a way? tenner well, it does real surprise me. it makes me think that we have got a long way to go. yellow mac it clearly has not changed, if this sort of thing is happening in 2018. a lot of the people seem to pay lip service to the idea that women should be treated properly, and that there has been equal pay, and all these other things that women complain about, and that we should have most lenient women in executive places, and there's a big difference do have a nonexecutive director on the board, and a and executive. i think the only way that we are good to stamp this up is that if women start rising up to the very top. we need more women ceos, more women finance directors, female chairman of
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companies, in order to stop this happening. if you are being charitable, you say it is very silly behaviour, but the fact that people have been assaulted, is a criminal offence, and these people have been asked to sign contract saying that if they were harassed on the night then they would not take any action, because of a nondisclosure agreement. that is terrible. i really think that women have to stand up and be more vocal and demand that things change. we learnt in the last few hours... there have been calls today for people to resign, is that too much given that some of them would have been there as invited guest? some of these people have businesses of their own, and you can't make then resign. i don't think it's about resignations, it is about changing the culture. we have clearly failed in that. we have got to make more progress. i think this is just another example of why we need to actually stand up and say
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no, enough, stop. and, ithink it is incumbent upon women, whether they are businesswomen, or anyone in any position, anywhere in any company, to demand to be treated properly and as an equal. that includes pay, as well as just as an equal. that includes pay, as well asjust general as an equal. that includes pay, as well as just general courtesy. we are not different, we are all human beings, and we should be treated properly. very good to talk to you. we are almost at the end of the programme. katty is back tomorrow — she will be in davos for the arrival of donald trump. i do hope christian she has seen jon sopel‘s latest tweet. what are they talking about?” what are they talking about? i did not think there was such a thing as
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blizzard business attire, but a p pa re ntly blizzard business attire, but apparently this is that the job. if you doubt that davos is the most ridiculous pace to hold a confidence, —— conference, this is the window of the bbc offers. having to dig themselves out. though, he will need his crampons tomorrow, and so will need his crampons tomorrow, and so will catch the annualjune into her when she arrived in —— tune in to her when she arrived in davos. hello once again, it was all is good and bea hello once again, it was all is good and be a wet and windy day. given the proximity of storm georgina, not that many got to see it as" is, but what more of you would have seen is
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this where the brand, making its way towards the —— weather front, making its way towards the south. that combination of very wet and very windy weather, to the extent that in york, there has been some flooding, about the river. we have seen some very strong gusts of wind. there was plenty of them in those winds to whip up that scene. through the course of the evening and overnight, georgina will move away it was scandinavian, we have a centre of low pressure brought to the north—western quarter of northern ireland, and that will keep the showers going across the northern areas. as we start the new day on thursday, it is a bright and blustery sort of day. other null is very close to the centre of low
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pressure, and just get a sense that they willjoin up those showers, at anyone... but, further north than that, and indeed into east anglia and the south—east, stewart showers to report and a fresher feeling to the day. 0vernight, thursday into friday, push that low pressure out into the north sea, and behind it, a cold, crisp sort of start to the day, on friday, twice a day for the most part, just a little bit of a breeze coming in from the north sea, ushering in one or two showers there, but essentially a dry and find out. a bit fresherfeeling than has been the case of late. 4 degrees to about 9 degrees will cover it. before the weekend, we'll get a weatherford in from the atlantique. but if you guys are buyers taking us into that they all sunday, but at least they are bending back towards the south west. there will be rain at times, it will be quite windy, but it will be pretty mild, too.
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this is bbc news, i'm reeta chakrabarti. the headlines at 8pm. an exclusive men—only annual charity dinner, held for more than 30 years, cancels all future events after hostesses say they were sexually harassed. a judge sentences larry nassar, a former doctor to the us gymnastics team, to 175 years injail for sexually abusing dozens of young girls. i just signed your death warrant. i need everyone to be quiet.....i still have contempt powers....i told you i'm not nice. here, it's emerged victims of the black cab rapistjohn worboys were given written assurances he would be injailfor a very long time after he was convicted.
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